| 00:00.09 | fsmithred | I just added that repo and there it is. I also pinned jessie-proposed to a lower priority, so I don't get anything by accident |
| 00:00.17 | Xenguy | golinux: OK, so if I want it now, go with fsmithred 's repo, else wait for the package to get into the main repo ? |
| 00:00.25 | golinux | Cursor should be DMZ (white) |
| 00:00.27 | fsmithred | yup |
| 00:00.41 | golinux | DMZ cursors are in the repos. |
| 00:01.02 | golinux | Of get purpy off the link I posted. Either way. |
| 00:01.32 | fsmithred | if you get it from the proposed repo, it should make desktop-base happy |
| 00:01.32 | Xenguy | Xenguy, having been taught to be cautious, will probably wait for things to settle in the main repo, but thanks for the workaround suggestions guys :) |
| 00:01.39 | golinux | Unzip and put it in /usr/share/themes |
| 00:02.06 | fsmithred | and maybe make Centurion_Dan happy that you're testing it. |
| 00:02.08 | golinux | Heck, I created that theme! |
| 00:02.41 | golinux | And put it there so people could snag if before it was integrated. |
| 00:03.01 | fsmithred | yeah, and now it's packaged and desktop-base from main repo wants it |
| 00:03.15 | golinux | It's been on my desktop maybe 8 months. |
| 00:04.44 | fsmithred | you'll have to install the deb, too, once it's in main. |
| 00:04.59 | fsmithred | even though you already have it. |
| 00:07.23 | fsmithred | Xenguy, how often do you do update/upgrade? |
| 00:08.23 | Xenguy | fsmithred: Every time I turn on my laptop ;) |
| 00:08.34 | Xenguy | brb |
| 00:09.15 | fsmithred | I don't see any updates for desktop-base currently or in my apt history |
| 00:09.41 | Xenguy | I didn't see it this morning, but got the error message when I got home from work |
| 00:10.07 | Xenguy | So maybe this is a beta1 issue? Not sure. |
| 00:10.18 | golinux | Are you on stable? |
| 00:10.27 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 00:10.51 | golinux | I had a desktop-base upgrade maybe last week |
| 00:10.54 | Xenguy | golinux: yep |
| 00:10.57 | fsmithred | oh, I don't have desktop-base installed |
| 00:11.11 | fsmithred | that explains why no upgrade |
| 00:11.23 | fsmithred | I'll have to start a VM of pure devuan |
| 00:11.58 | Xenguy | brb |
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| 01:44.18 | Centurion_Dan | Xenguy - clearlooks-phenix-purpy is in jessie now. |
| 01:46.38 | Centurion_Dan | If you install desktop-base it should pull all the correct deps for the purpy them now. I'd suggest also installing slim as well to get the purpy login page too |
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| 01:52.57 | Centurion_Dan | Xenguy: sorry, I hadn't built it for jessie - it's building now but could be up to 24 hours before it appears in merged. |
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| 01:54.48 | Centurion_Dan | either add "deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main" or "deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/devuan jessie-proposed main" to get it. |
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| 01:56.17 | Inocuous | Centurion_Dan, I just recently had issues with being able to reach devuan.org and files.devuan.org. |
| 01:56.24 | Inocuous | I had to change to the google dns |
| 01:57.32 | Inocuous | I was wondering if that was some kind of attack or something that may have changed with the servers |
| 01:57.34 | Inocuous | ? |
| 01:57.46 | Centurion_Dan | Inocuous: why not run your own resolver, that way your not giving google info about what sites you visit and services you use. |
| 01:58.08 | Inocuous | If I can do it in my router, I don't know much about it. |
| 01:58.15 | Centurion_Dan | I dare say it's your ISP's dns got out of date. |
| 01:58.39 | Centurion_Dan | You'd have to do it on a machine in your network... |
| 01:59.22 | Inocuous | I didn't really understand it, someone helped me change dns on my local machine. |
| 01:59.54 | Inocuous | that didn't really resolve it for different os's so I changed the router settinigs |
| 02:00.04 | Centurion_Dan | Some day soon I'll build a range of router/firewalls that do all these things properly running on devuan :-) Or just resell dowse which will pretty much do all that already ;-) |
| 02:00.08 | Inocuous | my att data connection was ok. |
| 02:02.22 | Inocuous | so I double checked my ATT was working and my router wasn't and then called tech support. I asked them to do the same test, only the guy had verizon and he didn't have access with verizon eiter |
| 02:02.57 | Inocuous | anyway, just sharing my experience. |
| 02:03.02 | Centurion_Dan | stupid big ISP |
| 02:03.14 | Centurion_Dan | to big to care about customers... |
| 02:04.04 | Inocuous | the guys attitude was if verizon dns wasn't working then it was a site issue. |
| 02:04.28 | golinux | Centurion_Dan: Will I be able to use a dowse box instead of the isp's box? |
| 02:05.12 | golinux | Or do I need to put it between me and the isp's box |
| 02:06.18 | Xenguy | Thanks Centurion_Dan , very appreciated :) |
| 02:07.52 | Inocuous | one trailing thought was if this is something that someone is deliberately sabotaging. |
| 02:08.00 | Inocuous | the dns issue I mean. |
| 02:08.13 | Centurion_Dan | golinux: depends... are you using adsl? |
| 02:09.21 | Centurion_Dan | or what sort of connection is it?? |
| 02:09.41 | golinux | I have no idea. |
| 02:10.34 | Centurion_Dan | whats the make/model of your isp's router? |
| 02:11.34 | golinux | looking for that now |
| 02:13.01 | golinux | It's an Ariss Touchstone TG1672 |
| 02:13.11 | golinux | Oops Arris |
| 02:14.08 | golinux | https://www.timewarnercable.com/content/dam/residential/pdfs/support/internet/ModemUserGuides/arris-tg1672g-userguide.pdf |
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| 02:32.49 | Centurion_Dan | Ok, that's a cable modem/router. It may be possible to put it in a bridge mode so it passes traffic straight through so you can use another router (DOWSE) to provide all the facilities... depends also on if your phone is integrated and how that is done too... |
| 02:38.30 | Xenguy | On a related(?) topic, any opinions on OpenWRT vs. LEDE ? |
| 02:38.56 | Xenguy | Just curious cos it seems a lot of the original developers are with LEDE now? |
| 02:40.12 | Xenguy | Should probably ask that on #debianfork |
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| 03:02.02 | golinux | Centurion_Dan: Phone is on a coax connection. Computers are on two of the four ports. |
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| 08:32.07 | hellekin | people complain that talk.devuan.org is down. I can't fix it since I don't have credentials to watch the droplet on Digital Ocean. Please someone fix it! Issue #33 has been pending for months! |
| 08:32.41 | hellekin | (people as in not just Antonio on DNG) |
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| 10:10.32 | jaromil | fixed |
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| 10:26.42 | hellekin | thanks |
| 10:27.01 | hellekin | jaromil: what happened? |
| 10:31.50 | hellekin | Dec 22 05:04:17 talk kernel: [ 5.855205] init: failsafe main process (739) killed by TERM signal |
| 10:35.20 | hellekin | auth.log.1 is full of authentication failures from a single IP |
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| 10:47.15 | jaromil | failure processing payments, DO put it on suspend |
| 10:47.22 | jaromil | auth attempts are unrelated imho |
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| 11:02.20 | hellekin | ah... :( |
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| 11:09.21 | aitor | hi, anybody here? |
| 11:09.42 | buZz | yes |
| 11:09.50 | buZz | about 173 ppl |
| 11:09.51 | buZz | :P |
| 11:09.54 | aitor | hi, buZz |
| 11:09.59 | buZz | lo |
| 11:10.48 | aitor | here you are the code of the socket for simple-netaid: |
| 11:10.51 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/socket/ |
| 11:11.08 | aitor | the program is very simple |
| 11:11.27 | aitor | you must build it typing: |
| 11:11.36 | buZz | why would i want to build it? |
| 11:11.44 | aitor | gcc -o socket socket.c -lpthread |
| 11:12.02 | aitor | it checks the connection |
| 11:12.24 | aitor | you must run it by the following way: |
| 11:12.33 | aitor | socket PORT IP |
| 11:12.37 | aitor | in my case: |
| 11:12.48 | aitor | ./socket 80 192.168.0.1 |
| 11:13.07 | aitor | it returns CONNECTED/DISCONNECTED |
| 11:13.32 | buZz | why would i want that? |
| 11:14.13 | aitor | some commands like "ip route show" fail in some cases |
| 11:14.33 | aitor | the idea is very simple |
| 11:14.41 | aitor | there are two threads |
| 11:15.12 | aitor | the first one is the socket trying the connection |
| 11:15.58 | aitor | it the socket connects succesfully, the process is killed printing CONNECTED |
| 11:16.19 | djph | aitor: <enter> is not punctuation. |
| 11:16.37 | aitor | otherwise, the second thread delays one sec and prints DISCONNECTED |
| 11:17.34 | aitor | what do you mean? |
| 11:18.52 | buZz | i still have no clue why you are sharing this code |
| 11:19.29 | aitor | for testing purposes |
| 11:19.40 | aitor | and suggestions |
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| 11:53.25 | detha | ehm, what does this better than nc -w1 <host> <port> ? (I know what it does worse - unsuccessful connection still gives a 0 exit code, not good for scripting) |
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| 14:15.14 | aitor | hey, appearently it works... thanks ! |
| 14:15.53 | aitor | i'll test it this afternoon |
| 14:15.58 | aitor | thanks |
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| 14:22.06 | aitor | mmmhh... |
| 14:22.42 | aitor | i was supposing that the connection attempt was a try/catch exception |
| 14:22.51 | aitor | now, i have a doubt |
| 14:23.05 | aitor | maybe, the second thread is not needed |
| 14:23.57 | aitor | it gives to the connection attempt 1 sec. of margin |
| 14:24.29 | aitor | but, if it's not a try/catch, it has no sense |
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| 14:25.06 | aitor | i added it because i was using: |
| 14:25.14 | aitor | if (connect(sockfd, (struct sockaddr*)&serverAddr, sizeof(serverAddr)) < 0) |
| 14:25.29 | aitor | instead of: |
| 14:25.33 | aitor | if (connect(sockfd, (struct sockaddr*)&serverAddr, sizeof(serverAddr)) >= 0) |
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| 14:25.43 | aitor | and sometimes it failed |
| 14:26.36 | aitor | the idea is: |
| 14:27.32 | aitor | if "ip route show" doesn't give you any IP address, then we are disconnected, 100% sure |
| 14:28.16 | aitor | otherwise, we must ensure about our connection |
| 14:31.21 | detha | aitor: what is the larger context here? there are many ways in which connections can fail |
| 14:34.29 | aitor | maybe, we have to include a try/catch exception in the first thread, giving to it a time limit |
| 14:36.35 | aitor | detha: time to eat, see you later |
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| 15:51.24 | aitor | hi detha, |
| 15:51.45 | aitor | the following code also works, and it's simplier: |
| 15:52.03 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/socket1/ |
| 15:54.18 | DusXMT | interesting coding style... |
| 15:55.29 | DusXMT | (also, main isn't a void function, it returns an int; the status code of this program is undefined, quite unfriendly to scripts as someone already said) |
| 15:56.17 | aitor | ok, i'll change to int main :) |
| 15:59.29 | aitor | it was true... it's a try/catch |
| 16:00.55 | aitor | the return of the DISCONNECTED value is delayed in comparison with CONNECTED |
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| 21:01.56 | aitor | hi again, it fails :( |
| 21:02.47 | Guest7212 | ? |
| 21:02.49 | aitor | we must turn to the multihreaded process, the first one |
| 21:03.22 | aitor | multithreaded |
| 21:04.29 | aitor | any hints? |
| 21:04.56 | detha | aitor: with a resolution of 1 second or so, a simple alarm() will do |
| 21:05.41 | aitor | yes, why it fails? |
| 21:06.41 | detha | set signal handler, alarm(1), try to connect, say 'Nope' if the connect returns EINTR |
| 21:07.03 | aitor | we don't need any alarm for changing the status icon of simple-netaid |
| 21:07.39 | detha | I'd rather use one thread with an alarm, than multi-threaded stuff |
| 21:07.43 | aitor | my first socket.c works |
| 21:07.49 | detha | keep things as simple as possible |
| 21:08.05 | aitor | yes, i try |
| 21:10.11 | aitor | i'm not a good scrypter, but i cook well |
| 21:13.47 | Guest7212 | ) |
| 21:20.02 | Guest7212 | http://www.computer-museum.ru/images/soviet-pk/soviet_pk_15_b.jpg |
| 21:22.23 | Guest7212 | sorry, wrong channel |
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| 21:36.08 | aitor | time to dinner :) |
| 21:38.07 | Guest7212 | no, time to sleep |
| 21:39.42 | Guest7212 | bb! |
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| 23:12.30 | aitor | detha: i had many open folders; yes, maybe time to sleep :) |
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