| 00:00.13 | voyo | good night :) |
| 00:00.34 | parazyd | gn |
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| 08:39.04 | aitor | hi all |
| 08:41.00 | aitor | rrq: are you there? |
| 08:44.31 | aitor | i'm doing some improvements on the packaging of Vdev |
| 08:45.01 | aitor | i recommended to use an unique kernel when choosing between udev or vdev |
| 08:45.06 | aitor | well... |
| 08:45.19 | aitor | the default option for initramfs-tools is to regenerate the latest kernel version |
| 08:45.32 | aitor | the argument -r is optional for update... |
| 08:45.59 | aitor | but the use of "-k all" for the version string specifies update-initramfs to execute the chosen action for all kernel versions |
| 08:46.07 | aitor | so, one issue solved |
| 08:46.47 | aitor | on the other hand, i did another change in the vdev-initramfs script |
| 08:47.42 | aitor | "vdev-initramfs vdev" compares the installed version of libudev1 with 215-17+deb8u5 |
| 08:47.55 | aitor | that is, the version provided by the empty package libvdev |
| 08:48.16 | aitor | if they are different, then libudev1 and udev will be reinstalled, doing again the above comparison |
| 08:50.24 | aitor | if they are still different, then the version of libudev1 is higher than 215-17+deb8u5 and there is nothing to do |
| 08:50.36 | aitor | exiting with the following message: |
| 08:50.52 | aitor | echo "*** NOTE: libvdev provides libudev1-215-17+deb8u5, and the installed version is $version - The of libvdev is deprecated !! " |
| 08:51.27 | aitor | doing these two changes, there is no risk of breaking the system |
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| 08:56.43 | aitor | hi, lkcl |
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| 09:00.31 | aitor | need to go |
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| 11:47.08 | rrq | aitor: cheers. I've adopted "-k all". |
| 11:47.58 | rrq | aitor: slightly heistant about locking the competition control to the particular udev version though. |
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| 15:27.48 | aitor | hi rrq |
| 15:29.15 | aitor | i'm not sure to understand your hesitant attitude... |
| 15:30.08 | aitor | when a package provides another package, it provides a concrete version of this package |
| 15:30.50 | aitor | for example, the following case is not valid: |
| 15:31.27 | aitor | Provides: libudev1 (>=215-17+deb8u5) |
| 15:37.09 | aitor | on the other hand, if you don't specify any version, it will not be usefull |
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| 15:49.37 | aitor | for example: gvfs depends on libudev1 (>=183) |
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| 15:52.06 | aitor | and if you don't specify the version of the provided package, it'll not be higher than 183, neither lower, neither equal |
| 15:54.34 | aitor | see you :) |
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| 16:38.54 | somerandomnick | Looks like the security repository is now more than 45 hours behind. |
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| 16:42.53 | Venker | hi people |
| 16:43.08 | tomlukeywood | hi |
| 16:44.20 | Venker | I'm a facing a problem regarding libcrypt, supposely inherited from a Debian bug |
| 16:44.57 | Venker | the cryptodisk isn't unmounting properly at shutdown and reboot |
| 16:47.10 | Venker | and I don't find any logs in where it would this message be stored |
| 16:59.26 | Venker | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=792552 |
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| 17:29.57 | poogie | all: evening, would anyone spare a minute or two on my newbie questions please? |
| 17:30.37 | poogie | just need to decide what wm to pick... |
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| 17:40.20 | furrywolf | that is not an easy question. everyone has opinions, generally very widely opposed. I suggest icewm. :) |
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| 17:41.34 | poogie | furrywolf: thanks. I was wondering if I it is feasible to use gnome on devuan, I mean future-wise as it seems getting more and more dependent on systemd |
| 17:43.16 | furrywolf | gnome sucks. if it goes way, that's ok. :P |
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| 17:43.25 | furrywolf | (remember what I said about opinions...) |
| 17:44.13 | poogie | so most not-so-advanced users would stick with xface and those advanced ones with tilling wms... |
| 17:44.25 | stevelitt | poogie, your question is more ontopic on #debianfork. Go there, and I'll give you my opinion. #devuan is more for serious development discussions. |
| 17:44.58 | poogie | ok stevelitt see you there |
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| 18:37.40 | somerandomnick | I note right now #devuan is currently the only advertised channel for Devuan. |
| 18:38.59 | somerandomnick | Others seem to read as of historic note, not necessarily in active use. |
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| 18:40.19 | fsmithred | debianfork is still active |
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| 22:51.29 | somerandomnick | The Devuan security repository is more than 48 hours behind everyone else, I rate this an EMERGENCY situation. |
| 22:51.59 | somerandomnick | Or did I get lucky and it updated a few minutes ago. :-/ |
| 22:53.16 | somerandomnick | Nope, still an emergency situation (grr! brains, check things first). |
| 23:00.51 | golinux | somerandomnick: Yawn . . . |
| 23:06.50 | gci_admin | Is there a "zero day" of which I am unaware? |
| 23:07.31 | somerandomnick | No, but once an exploit is out the update is too late. |
| 23:09.38 | gci_admin | So there is a remote exploit for something you need to update? What is the exploit and the software that has this problem? |
| 23:10.44 | somerandomnick | BIND and tar have holes, while I'm not planning to do stupid stuff, that doesn't mean some luser isn't going to. |
| 23:12.14 | gci_admin | wonders ... when has BIND *not* had holes? ;) |
| 23:13.55 | somerandomnick | I believe it is currently better than Sendmail used to be, though yes it is pretty bad; this one looks to be DoS-only, but that is still a *problem*. |
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| 23:15.06 | gci_admin | The only thing I have seen about BIND lately is a possibility of a DoS. While that could suck, it does not imply one could do more with it from what I just read. |
| 23:17.13 | gci_admin | I cannot find anything about a current tar vulnerability. Do you have a CVE for that somerandomnick? |
| 23:21.48 | gci_admin | The only thing I can find is a CVE about libarchive, which is used by tar and cpio. Is that the one you mean, somerandomnick? |
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| 23:26.51 | golinux | gci_admin: The sky is not falling |
| 23:26.57 | somerandomnick | CVE-2016-6321 |
| 23:28.35 | somerandomnick | Which could be libarchive. |
| 23:29.40 | somerandomnick | Hmm, not libarchive (though could be someone found a similar bug in both). |
| 23:33.00 | gci_admin | Sounds the same to me based on this: "Flaws in libarchive's handling of symlinks and hard links allow overwriting files outside the extraction directory, or permission changes to a directory outside the extraction directory." |
| 23:33.10 | gci_admin | golinux, yeah, I know. ;) |
| 23:33.53 | gci_admin | is not too concerned about these flaws at this point |
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| 23:36.08 | gci_admin | Meh, rereading these, they are not the same. But have similar problems. |
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