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| 00:26.34 | gallux | hello everybody |
| 00:28.26 | nextime | o/ |
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| 00:45.14 | Centurion_Dan | ;-) |
| 00:45.44 | nextime | ciao Centurion_Dan |
| 00:48.29 | Centurion_Dan | Hi. Sorry, I haven't pushed more stuff yet. I am just working on slim and destkop-base and then will put the new subkey to use on the iso builder to see if we can get iso's that work properly. |
| 00:48.53 | Centurion_Dan | then I will get back to amprolla1. How close is amprolla 2? |
| 00:49.17 | Centurion_Dan | I see you've started building a bunch of packages again :-) |
| 00:49.21 | nextime | working on it, but slowly, tonight i'm working on the backup system |
| 00:49.36 | nextime | the packages i'm building are for it |
| 00:49.37 | Centurion_Dan | Ah, good! |
| 00:50.12 | nextime | using a rater complex setup with a rater simple set of scripts |
| 00:51.01 | nextime | to make all machines doing an encrypted, secure in case of server cracking, incremental backup on amazon cloud drive using duplicity |
| 00:54.29 | Centurion_Dan | interesting. I've been considering how to do backups better, and have been thinking of building a network block device service, so people can mount a block via NBD, iSCSI etc, use an encrypted volume or encrypted FS on top of that for doing backups too. |
| 00:56.59 | nextime | the good part is that amazon cloud drive is very distributed, resilient and fast |
| 00:57.14 | nextime | and as low as 70$/year |
| 00:57.18 | nextime | you have unlimited space |
| 00:57.40 | nextime | so, it's great for backups as long as you just encrypt them |
| 00:58.32 | Centurion_Dan | can you just mount it as a local block device, or are you running a vm there? |
| 01:03.12 | nextime | no, i'm using duplicity with support for acd_cli that is a client support for it |
| 01:03.17 | nextime | that implement ALSO a fuse backend |
| 01:03.31 | nextime | but it's transparent if used with duplicity |
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| 03:44.07 | Inocuous | hmm. are we under ddos again? |
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| 04:15.10 | Inocuous | ye. looks like it. Well, they didn't get me by golly. |
| 04:15.27 | Inocuous | Must be specific servers they go after. |
| 04:21.15 | Inocuous | by golly. |
| 04:21.21 | Inocuous | Wgo says that? lol |
| 04:21.36 | Inocuous | gomer pyle. |
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| 10:04.13 | gallux | hello |
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| 13:45.32 | mns` | golinux: hi |
| 13:47.33 | mns` | golinux: can you help or point me to where i can find some devuan artwork? |
| 13:47.58 | mns` | golinux: i want some devuan wallpapers, to put on some machines. |
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| 13:49.02 | golinux | mns`: Hi |
| 13:49.19 | mns` | golinux: hi! |
| 13:50.39 | golinux | Give me a sec |
| 13:50.48 | mns` | golinux: ok |
| 13:53.46 | golinux | This is one I put together early on. http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/trio.png |
| 13:54.19 | mns` | golinux: nice |
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| 13:54.40 | mns` | golinux: would be nice too if it have a reference to devuan |
| 13:55.07 | golinux | Still looking in git |
| 13:55.25 | mns` | golinux: oh, thanks. |
| 13:55.28 | MinceR | also, the official ones seem to be at https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/tree/master/graphics/backgrounds/jessie |
| 13:56.11 | mns` | MinceR: thanks, i'll take a look |
| 13:57.16 | golinux | Dang. You beat me to it! |
| 13:58.12 | mns` | golinux: thank you! |
| 13:58.16 | mns` | MinceR: thank you! |
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| 13:59.26 | MinceR | :) |
| 13:59.33 | golinux | Here are some more: https://git.devuan.org/parazyd/wallpapers |
| 14:00.55 | parazyd | although those aren't devuan related :) |
| 14:01.08 | golinux | Doesn't look like they identify devuan either. |
| 14:01.39 | golinux | The 'official' ones are at the link MinceR posted. |
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| 19:22.01 | Inocuous__ | hmm. how to tell what init I have in linux? |
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| 19:41.08 | gallux | inocuous If you use some distro derived from Redfoxmoon hat family you probably use systemd. If you use some current debian 8 or Ubuntu 15.04 or later and their derived distros, you are using systemd. If you are using arch linux or derived distros you are using systemd |
| 19:41.19 | gallux | red hat* |
| 19:43.50 | gallux | command: readlink -v /sbin/init |
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| 19:52.57 | Inocuous__ | I get 'readlink: /sbin/init: Invalid argument' |
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| 19:53.55 | no_9 | howdy devuanistas ;) |
| 20:00.32 | greenjeans | hi no_9 |
| 20:02.03 | no_9 | number 9,... |
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| 20:25.29 | nextime_ | ~~. |
| 20:28.19 | nextime_ | top |
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| 20:49.05 | Inocuous__ | this works: file /sbin/init |
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| 21:10.35 | aitor | hi |
| 21:11.47 | aitor | hola |
| 21:11.49 | Inocuous__ | hi |
| 21:11.57 | Inocuous__ | bonjour |
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| 21:12.47 | aitor | i only know some words in french |
| 21:12.56 | aitor | la la la |
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| 21:14.29 | aitor | what means: |
| 21:14.31 | aitor | number 9,... |
| 21:15.09 | Inocuous__ | neuf |
| 21:16.02 | aitor | neuf means new |
| 21:17.41 | aitor | Inocuous: are you french? |
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| 21:20.01 | aitor | Sorry, Inocuous__ |
| 21:20.37 | Inocuous__ | Nouveau is new |
| 21:21.14 | aitor | you are right |
| 21:23.56 | aitor | gaston leroux |
| 21:24.33 | aitor | le phantom of the opera |
| 21:27.28 | aitor | neuf also means new, isn't it? |
| 21:28.32 | aitor | 9? |
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| 21:29.44 | aitor | robert-e and his scripts... |
| 21:31.41 | aitor | how scary ! |
| 21:31.53 | robert-e | aiter: Hi .. I gave up on making those work consistantly..there seems to be a lot of voodoo in the gvfs workings. |
| 21:33.42 | robert-e | aiter: I decided to wait on devuan getting to stable release and then delve into it again. Gnome and gtk stuff seems often obtuse, and changes unpredicably even in the short term. |
| 21:34.17 | aitor | robert-e: Centuriion_DAn is right, in need a stronger steer to WRT appropriate behaviour in IRC |
| 21:34.33 | aitor | Centurion_Dan :) |
| 21:35.25 | robert-e | aiter: Centurian_Dan is one very busy dude. How is your vdev project panning out? |
| 21:35.36 | aitor | we are losing the way |
| 21:36.09 | aitor | vdev? |
| 21:37.35 | aitor | the packaging is available in packages.gnuinos.org |
| 21:37.47 | robert-e | aiter: vdev (and udev) device handling is complicated stuff. Been poking around with Ralph's (rrq) workings the last couple of days. Quit amazing that it works as good as it does. |
| 21:38.35 | aitor | but i did some light changes |
| 21:39.03 | aitor | still not uploaded |
| 21:40.16 | aitor | do they work? my packages? |
| 21:40.58 | robert-e | aiter: I can hardly wait for vdev to be working reliably. I have a hybred install of Mint/Ubuntu that seems to get systemd relateds installed, even though I have systemd pinned in synaptic, and held in apt preferences. |
| 21:42.17 | golinux | The systemd version of antibiotic resistance! |
| 21:42.36 | aitor | golinux :) |
| 21:42.59 | golinux | aitor: \o |
| 21:43.13 | aitor | o/ |
| 21:44.10 | robert-e | golinux: I think it is borderline paranoia, but I wonder that if the dependency chain is too long, that dpkg misses out on stopping the systemd stuff being installed via a dependency |
| 21:45.34 | aitor | ? |
| 21:45.44 | golinux | Supposedly amprolla2 is going to do a better job of that |
| 21:46.09 | golinux | nextime explained that a day or so ago. |
| 21:46.15 | robert-e | golinux: Yes, nextime write good code. |
| 21:46.42 | golinux | You can check the logs for his explanation if you haven't already seen it. |
| 21:47.11 | robert-e | golinux: yep..saw it. cheers for that. |
| 21:47.27 | nextime_ | anyway would like to take this task for devuan as we plan to give gogs a chance over gitlab? |
| 21:47.30 | nextime_ | https://github.com/gogits/gogs/issues/3493 |
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| 21:48.18 | nextime | fast-re explanation about amprolla2 |
| 21:48.44 | nextime | amprolla2 will continue to merge the debian repos and use them with the http 302 redirect trick to save bandwith |
| 21:49.00 | nextime | but as opposite of amprolla1, it will cache every single package locally |
| 21:49.59 | nextime | and when merge repos, will analyze the dependency chain, and if a blacklisted package ( filtered by regexp ) will be in the chain, it will continue to serve the old package cached locally instead of redirecting the request via http |
| 21:50.15 | nextime | and will notify devuan team that a new package needs to be forked |
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| 21:52.24 | aitor | nextime: is this the code of amprolla2 |
| 21:52.26 | aitor | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla2/tree/master |
| 21:53.31 | nextime | aitor: yes, but it's only a very partial repo, i'm polishing most of the experiments already done locally and integrating in the daemon you see there |
| 21:53.48 | aitor | ok |
| 21:54.26 | rrq | hey, aitor; your vdev editing... is that on mine or straight from Jude's? |
| 21:55.47 | aitor | rrq: i only changed some files... |
| 21:56.18 | rrq | me too :-) |
| 21:57.16 | aitor | you know |
| 21:57.52 | aitor | libudev.so points to libudev.so.1 |
| 21:58.32 | aitor | and libudev.so.1 points to libudev.so.1.5.2 |
| 21:59.19 | aitor | and some changes in the paths |
| 22:00.19 | robert-e | rrq: you have email |
| 22:02.17 | rrq | aitor: right. making libudev.so.1.5.2 "sibling" to libudev.so.1.5.0 |
| 22:03.25 | rrq | aitor: also changed its Makefile to have libudev.so.1 as its "soname" |
| 22:05.11 | rrq | aitor: there's also now a "bug fix" in hwdb.sh which is important |
| 22:06.07 | aitor | hwdb.sh? |
| 22:06.45 | rrq | aitor: and I added in "hand compiled" device properties into hwdb originating in udev rules (from packages libsane and something else for mode-switch of modem dongles) |
| 22:07.13 | rrq | a helper... source path is vdevd/helpers/LINUX/hwdb.sh |
| 22:08.10 | aitor | sorry i'm in a recent installation of gnuinos and a hadn't the code of vdev to hand |
| 22:08.38 | rrq | aitor: no worries. I'm only doing vdev, so it's easy enough for me :-) |
| 22:08.49 | aitor | i'll had a look at it tomorrow :) |
| 22:08.58 | aitor | see you |
| 22:09.24 | rrq | cheers |
| 22:09.34 | aitor | i'll have... |
| 22:09.39 | aitor | lol |
| 22:09.51 | aitor | see you :) |
| 22:10.07 | rrq | eventuslly you will have had the tenses in order ... |
| 22:10.21 | rrq | ually |
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| 22:20.36 | AntoFox | hi |
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