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02:10.58 | byzandula | Taking the plunge |
02:11.14 | byzandula | just upgraded server memory to 32GB and am installing devuan |
02:11.50 | byzandula | bye bye half-broken stretch install |
02:11.55 | Inocuous | nice |
02:12.00 | Inocuous | sounds like fun. |
02:12.31 | byzandula | it always is |
02:12.33 | byzandula | ;) |
02:12.44 | Inocuous | my laptop is almost out of warranty, once it is I'm reformating to devuan |
02:13.16 | byzandula | I was ready to jump to freebsd 11, but I've run deb for so long that I don't feel like reinventing the wheel |
02:14.05 | Inocuous | I just wish deb would include more recent versions of things like mysql |
02:15.02 | byzandula | I prefer stable over newest |
02:15.17 | byzandula | you can always roll your own and compile it if you want bleeding edge stuff |
02:15.37 | Inocuous | yeah, but I mean, I think they are three years behind. |
02:15.51 | byzandula | Jessie is 3 years behind? |
02:16.00 | Inocuous | for mysql |
02:16.50 | byzandula | yowsa |
02:17.08 | Inocuous | php also, is lagging. I do like to keep those two things cutting edge, but it's not really affecting to be honest |
02:18.21 | byzandula | when I was a LAMP jockey, I typically rolled my own |
02:18.50 | byzandula | but being able to apt upgrade, is quite the luxury |
02:19.15 | Inocuous | yeah, I guess I can grin and bear it, to avoid systemd it's worth it. |
02:19.34 | byzandula | that, my friend, is the truth |
02:19.52 | byzandula | call me old and crusty, but I can't stand it |
02:20.43 | Inocuous | a lot of people say what's the big deal, but I just think it's part of a much larger movement. But anyway. |
02:21.45 | byzandula | agreed. A movement controlled by corporations. |
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02:44.10 | byzandula | hmm I think I need to wipe my disks before install.. I don't see a way to get rid of software raid and lvm stuffs during install |
02:46.29 | Inocuous | ubuntu seems to have a much more advanced install then debian, to me. |
02:47.09 | byzandula | very likely |
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02:52.57 | Inocuous | I"m pretty sure I was able to partition over a win 7 install and have a dual boot with Ubuntu, I don't know if debian can do that. |
02:58.59 | pydsigner | Should be possible |
02:59.06 | pydsigner | They're both using grub |
03:02.42 | Inocuous | something on that set up did eventually crash, I think it may have been a root kit attack but I'm not sure. it was a couple years ago now. It was hard to recover. I lost the ubuntu partition and never recovered it. |
03:05.12 | byzandula | I decided to abandon software raid and switched to hardware raid on the mobo |
03:05.30 | byzandula | hopefully I won't regret it |
03:10.26 | muep_ | unless you motherboard is of some quite unusual (and expensive!) model, I would much prefer the usual software raid that linux has |
03:14.05 | byzandula | this has a nice onboard card, but I think I agree.. it is much more portable |
03:14.33 | byzandula | I changed my mind half way through.. ;) |
03:38.54 | Chanku | You can, in fact, dual boot debian with Windows |
03:39.16 | Chanku | source: I did it for a long time (in fact I ended up triple-booting, Debian, Manjaro (OpenRC), and Windows 7 (for games)) |
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05:49.52 | mender27 | Anyone here? ;> |
05:52.03 | debdog | not at this time of day |
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08:36.07 | buZz | ghe ok, in light of possible future ARMv6 support, i just ordered a Nokia N810 ;) |
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09:55.22 | Gup_ | yay got devuan installed with debootstrap onto Joggler just fine, all with X and firefox <1GB to fit on internal storage :D |
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10:16.42 | Inocuous | hello people. |
10:16.50 | Inocuous | I think it's friday, but I'm not sure. |
10:18.23 | rleigh | Try `date -R` |
10:28.32 | ttr | hellekin: thx - using wicd now on laptop - mentioned NM as used it in past for years and know it's popular |
10:38.47 | buZz | wicd \o |
10:39.28 | ttr | Inocuous: if it was friday I'll be happier :) |
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11:22.36 | hellekin | ttr: glad it works for you :) |
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11:33.04 | gnu_srs | hellekin: Regarding: http://wizardofbits.tumblr.com/post/45232318557/systemd-more-like-shit-stemd |
11:33.04 | gnu_srs | Nice reading, and this: SYSTEMD IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT A GOOD INIT SHOULD BE. :-/ |
11:34.00 | gnu_srs | Ah, sorry, the link was posted by nextime :-D |
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20:17.56 | premoboss | parazyd, are you in? |
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21:38.13 | Inocuous | all day I thought it was Friday. |
21:38.25 | Inocuous | oh well, tomorrow I can think it too. ttr |
21:39.06 | TwistedFate | Inocuous, i thought it was wednesday when it was tuesday |
21:39.24 | TwistedFate | my brain was 100% convinced, i felt like someone stole me a day >.< |
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