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02:10.58byzandulaTaking the plunge
02:11.14byzandulajust upgraded server memory to 32GB and am installing devuan
02:11.50byzandulabye bye half-broken stretch install
02:11.55Inocuousnice
02:12.00Inocuoussounds like fun.
02:12.31byzandulait always is
02:12.33byzandula;)
02:12.44Inocuousmy laptop is almost out of warranty, once it is I'm reformating to devuan
02:13.16byzandulaI was ready to jump to freebsd 11, but I've run deb for so long that I don't feel like reinventing the wheel
02:14.05InocuousI just wish deb would include more recent versions of things like mysql
02:15.02byzandulaI prefer stable over newest
02:15.17byzandulayou can always roll your own and compile it if you want bleeding edge stuff
02:15.37Inocuousyeah, but I mean, I think they are three years behind.
02:15.51byzandulaJessie is 3 years behind?
02:16.00Inocuousfor mysql
02:16.50byzandulayowsa
02:17.08Inocuousphp also, is lagging. I do like to keep those two things cutting edge, but it's not really affecting to be honest
02:18.21byzandulawhen I was a LAMP jockey, I typically rolled my own
02:18.50byzandulabut being able to apt upgrade, is quite the luxury
02:19.15Inocuousyeah, I guess I can grin and bear it, to avoid systemd it's worth it.
02:19.34byzandulathat, my friend, is the truth
02:19.52byzandulacall me old and crusty, but I can't stand it
02:20.43Inocuousa lot of people say what's the big deal, but I just think it's part of a much larger movement. But anyway.
02:21.45byzandulaagreed. A movement controlled by corporations.
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02:44.10byzandulahmm I think I need to wipe my disks before install.. I don't see a way to get rid of software raid and lvm stuffs during install
02:46.29Inocuousubuntu seems to have a much more advanced install then debian, to me.
02:47.09byzandulavery likely
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02:52.57InocuousI"m pretty sure I was able to partition over a win 7 install and have a dual boot with Ubuntu, I don't know if debian can do that.
02:58.59pydsignerShould be possible
02:59.06pydsignerThey're both using grub
03:02.42Inocuoussomething on that set up did eventually crash, I think it may have been a root kit attack but I'm not sure. it was a couple years ago now. It was hard to recover. I lost the ubuntu partition and never recovered it.
03:05.12byzandulaI decided to abandon software raid and switched to hardware raid on the mobo
03:05.30byzandulahopefully I won't regret it
03:10.26muep_unless you motherboard is of some quite unusual (and expensive!) model, I would much prefer the usual software raid that linux has
03:14.05byzandulathis has a nice onboard card, but I think I agree.. it is much more portable
03:14.33byzandulaI changed my mind half way through.. ;)
03:38.54ChankuYou can, in fact, dual boot debian with Windows
03:39.16Chankusource: I did it for a long time (in fact I ended up triple-booting, Debian, Manjaro (OpenRC), and Windows 7 (for games))
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05:49.52mender27Anyone here? ;>
05:52.03debdognot at this time of day
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08:36.07buZzghe ok, in light of possible future ARMv6 support, i just ordered a Nokia N810 ;)
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09:55.22Gup_yay got devuan installed with debootstrap onto Joggler just fine, all with X and firefox <1GB to fit on internal storage :D
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10:16.42Inocuoushello people.
10:16.50InocuousI think it's friday, but I'm not sure.
10:18.23rleighTry `date -R`
10:28.32ttrhellekin: thx - using wicd now on laptop - mentioned NM as used it in past for years and know it's popular
10:38.47buZzwicd \o
10:39.28ttrInocuous: if it was friday I'll be happier :)
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11:22.36hellekinttr: glad it works for you :)
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11:33.04gnu_srshellekin:  Regarding: http://wizardofbits.tumblr.com/post/45232318557/systemd-more-like-shit-stemd
11:33.04gnu_srsNice reading, and this: SYSTEMD IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT A GOOD INIT SHOULD BE. :-/
11:34.00gnu_srsAh, sorry, the link was posted by nextime :-D
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21:38.13Inocuousall day I thought it was Friday.
21:38.25Inocuousoh well, tomorrow I can think it too. ttr
21:39.06TwistedFateInocuous, i thought it was wednesday when it was tuesday
21:39.24TwistedFatemy brain was 100% convinced, i felt like someone stole me a day >.<
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21:44.52Inocuousspace/time continuum is in flux. It's the only answer
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