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| 09:39.12 | ange | hello |
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| 10:07.43 | Gup | Anyone else having trouble (or got to work) suspend on lid in xfce4-power-manager under a non xfce4 DE? I'm using i3wm. |
| 10:07.49 | Gup | Power button and idle time settings respect my choice of shutdown/hibernate/suspend but laptop lid seems to be ignored. |
| 10:09.39 | Gup | Lots of workarounds suggest editing /etc/systemd/logind.conf and letting systemd handle it :/ |
| 10:10.41 | ange | hmm, that'd be annoying to have to deal with systemd in devuan |
| 10:12.24 | hellekin | ange: you're on the wrong channel. |
| 10:12.59 | Gup | yeah! that file of course doesnt exist otherwise i'd give it a shot |
| 10:13.17 | ange | hellekin: exactly my point |
| 10:13.54 | rrq` | I've gone for "old school" and use acpid + pm-utils, and a lidbutton script |
| 10:13.56 | hellekin | Gup: try pm-utils |
| 10:14.09 | Gup | debug output looks fine i think: http://pastebin.com/EJLkFDdL with nothing additional output during a lid close event |
| 10:14.53 | hellekin | rrq`: could you share your setup with Gup? |
| 10:15.27 | Gup | hellekin, pm-utils is installed. I think without it xfce4-power-manager wasn't able to suspend on any event |
| 10:15.46 | rrq` | sure; I purged xfce4-power-manager |
| 10:16.05 | rrq` | then used acpid (I believe it was installed) |
| 10:16.36 | rrq` | added /etc/acpi/lidbtn-suspend.sh script |
| 10:17.12 | rrq` | and /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn-suspend "script" |
| 10:17.26 | rrq` | (the other order, conceptually) |
| 10:17.50 | Gup | ok i might give that a shot, would be a shame to loose xfce4-power-manager though |
| 10:18.11 | Gup | i'd need to script all the other aspects it does work for |
| 10:18.13 | rrq` | the latter is two lines: "event=button[ /]lid" and "action=/etc/acpi/lidbtn-suspend.sh %e" |
| 10:19.22 | rrq` | the other a bit longer as I also trigger xtrlock... in addition to /usr/sbin/pm-suspend |
| 10:20.05 | hellekin | looks like we have xfce4-power-manager in both devuan-packages and devuan-for-review... I guess the review is done then :P |
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| 10:20.59 | rrq` | basically just handle the $3=close case and ignore the $3=open case |
| 10:22.11 | Gup | cool, thanks for the idea, looks like powerbutton is handled in /etc/acpi too, maybe i can copy that to get lid working in xfce4-power-manager |
| 10:22.48 | rrq` | I put mine at http://pastebin.com/WSAjxihy (I think; never used pastebin before) |
| 10:23.24 | Gup | i _thought_ it worked when i did a clean install with xfce4 as the default and only DE. but i didnt stick with that for long |
| 10:25.06 | Gup | thanks rrq` i'll use that to test the events are coming through correctly, nice debug in there already :) |
| 10:25.49 | Gup | hellekin, what is this review you speak of? Do you want me to report/collect any info somewhere? |
| 10:26.33 | Gup | i'll try a clean install with xfce4 full desktop too if i can find a spare partition/disk |
| 10:27.05 | hellekin | Gup: devuan-review is a git.do group where "new packages" are supposed to enter so that Devuan developers can evaluate them before accepting them into experimental. But xfce4-power-manager is already in stable, so this entry is quite irrelevant. |
| 10:27.52 | hellekin | Gup: I was looking for a bug report or workaround but didn't find anything yet. I guess you also looked a bit. |
| 10:30.10 | Gup | hellekin, yeah, lots of stuff like https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=206840 but all seems to involve systemd |
| 10:30.48 | Gup | i did try the testing version as it was a point release or two newer but no difference, worth trying unstable/experimental? |
| 10:31.13 | hellekin | Looking at the bug list in xfce4-power-manager I'm wondering whether LXDE is not a better default option for Devuan desktop. I've seen that installed and running without a flaw. |
| 10:31.53 | hellekin | has no preference for desktop: been using awesome for years. |
| 10:32.26 | Gup | hmm, what power manager does LXDE use? |
| 10:35.30 | Gup | i'm trying to make a fairly non-techy environment as I maintain linux distributions for a few users. while i'd be happy with scripting stuff it would be nice for them to be able to adjust timeouts in a gui :/ |
| 10:36.18 | hellekin | Gup: dunno, but it works out of the box. |
| 10:37.18 | Gup | might try a few different DE's with clean installs then.. i'll report back, thanks for the ideas |
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| 11:12.35 | Gup | rrq`, your sleep script works, cheers :) |
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| 11:24.49 | rrq` | cheers :-) |
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| 12:23.58 | aitor | Ralph :) |
| 12:25.06 | aitor | hi hellekin |
| 12:27.08 | Inocuous | good morning |
| 12:27.41 | aitor | good morning :) |
| 12:27.54 | Inocuous | My batter is failing on this laptop. I have to run windows to get to the interface for the support. yuck. |
| 12:27.56 | rrq` | evening :-) |
| 12:28.19 | aitor | i'm changing the code of initramfs-tools |
| 12:28.23 | aitor | using: |
| 12:29.08 | aitor | if ! [ -e /etc/init.d/vdev ]; then |
| 12:29.13 | aitor | fi |
| 12:30.09 | rrq` | or [ ! |
| 12:31.23 | aitor | rrq: if vdev exits, the code will be skipped |
| 12:32.10 | rrq` | wold be better if it could *not* mention either vdev nor udev (?) |
| 12:32.26 | rrq` | s/wol/woul/ |
| 12:32.32 | aitor | there are four delays of 10 seconds waiting for the udev service |
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| 12:33.30 | aitor | time to eat, see you :) |
| 12:33.43 | rrq` | bon apetit :-) |
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| 12:54.02 | hellekin | hey aitor |
| 12:54.15 | hellekin | bon appétit as well :] |
| 12:57.51 | fsmithred | rrq`, I'm gonna install your latest debs today. |
| 12:58.39 | rrq` | should be a breeze ;-) |
| 12:59.47 | fsmithred | what's the trick for switching between udev/vdev? |
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| 13:01.04 | rrq` | e.g. /usr/share/vdev/vdev-install.sh dialog |
| 13:01.45 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 13:02.17 | rrq` | np |
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| 13:32.33 | fsmithred | rrq`, you ready for a report? |
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| 13:34.32 | Gup | ok, i was wrong, seems xfce4-power-manager lid event doesn't even work "out the box" on a clean xfce install |
| 13:35.09 | Gup | trying lxde now... |
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| 13:48.31 | Inocuous | xfce seems deficient in a few areas. But it's so light and generally works pretty well |
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| 13:58.37 | Gup | yeah i recommend it to those who are used to a stacking WM and want a bit of a DE. Personally the only package I'm trying to use is the power manager. |
| 14:00.13 | Gup | hmm, looks like lxde uses the xfce4-power-manager |
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| 14:31.35 | AntoFox | hi |
| 14:36.07 | AntoFox | I'm trying to compile cjs from source |
| 14:36.21 | AntoFox | but during the process I get this error message: ./configure: line 2454: `AX_IS_RELEASE(always)' |
| 14:36.51 | AntoFox | any suggestions on how to fix it? |
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| 14:42.25 | zdzichu | upgrade autoconf to newer version? this macro was added on 2015-02-04 |
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| 14:49.44 | AntoFox | zdzichu: ah ok! now I try |
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| 15:16.57 | golinux | Gup: Do you have upower installed? |
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| 15:34.18 | fsmithred | golinux, Gup is gone. I have upower installed, but lid action does not work. |
| 15:34.39 | fsmithred | I have to select Suspend from the logout dialog. |
| 15:36.16 | golinux | Well, I've never had a lappy. |
| 15:36.47 | golinux | Might actually be useful to have one. |
| 15:37.29 | golinux | Could create captive audiences for a Devuan demo |
| 15:38.07 | golinux | Yeah, I saw he was gone but thought he might read the logs . . . |
| 15:39.54 | golinux | upower used to be the solution . . . |
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| 15:49.39 | fsmithred | I like having a laptop. It gets used more often than I expected. |
| 15:50.02 | fsmithred | uu-oh, wrong channel. |
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| 16:50.13 | Inocuous | fsmithred, you can admit to laptops here. we don't ask or tell. :) |
| 16:50.41 | Lydia_K | LOL |
| 16:50.50 | Lydia_K | I'm pretty much all laptop these days |
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| 16:51.38 | Inocuous | nice. me too. have been for a couple years. |
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| 16:52.15 | Inocuous | my gateway desktop seems to have a memory issue, whether it's just the memory itself or the motherboard, idk |
| 16:52.35 | Inocuous | anyway, that would be a good candidate for devuan if I could get it running. |
| 16:53.03 | Lydia_K | My old tower is literally living out it's life as an end table. |
| 16:54.03 | Inocuous | nice. haha. |
| 16:56.56 | fsmithred | I need two monitors, and lately, I'm wanting a third. |
| 16:57.20 | Lydia_K | Oh I always have a second monitor for my laptop on my desk. |
| 16:57.56 | fsmithred | I might switch to that at some point. |
| 16:58.02 | fsmithred | anyway, I gotta go. See you later. |
| 16:59.00 | Lydia_K | later |
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| 17:52.33 | aitor | Gup: there is another battery applet: |
| 17:52.35 | aitor | fdpowermon |
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| 19:54.30 | Gup | golinux, i do have upower installed, without it i couldnt select suspend for any action, but like fsmithred lid action still does nothing |
| 19:54.36 | Gup | (i do read the logs ;) |
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| 19:55.35 | AntoFox | hi |
| 19:56.03 | Gup | interestingly that about having to select suspend from the logout menu reminds me of a workaround i've had to apply to a few ubuntu installs, where resume after lid close resulted in black screen, but suspend from menu worked fine |
| 19:56.30 | AntoFox | I was able to compile cinnamon on devuan Jessie, but now |
| 19:56.34 | AntoFox | on ceres |
| 19:57.24 | AntoFox | there is a problem, on cinnamon-session should I replace logind |
| 19:58.00 | AntoFox | if use "login" when start cinnamon this go in crash |
| 19:58.31 | AntoFox | there is now an alternative to login? |
| 20:00.51 | AntoFox | for "login" I mean this software: http://pkg-shadow.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 20:30.02 | ange | I am looking into getting a base AMI running for devuan, any suggestions? |
| 20:30.16 | ange | would something similar to http://www.idevelopment.info/data/AWS/AWS_Tips/AWS_Management/AWS_10.shtml work ? |
| 20:37.32 | ange | hmm https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/CreateEC2Image that might be more appropriate |
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| 20:48.04 | fsmithred | ange, it looks like you could adapt the debian instructions for devuan. Use a devuan repo for the debootstrap. |
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| 20:51.03 | fsmithred | ange, see: https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Minimal-install-guide |
| 20:54.53 | ange | thanks fsmithred |
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| 21:32.59 | ange | doesn't look too bad for now |
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| 21:57.32 | fsmithred | apt-cache search and apt-cache show don't seem to be working properly |
| 21:57.49 | fsmithred | I have contrib and non-free enabled and updated |
| 21:58.25 | fsmithred | apt-cache search rtl8723 shows nothing in jessie and ascii. In wheezy and stretch, it tells me 'firmware-realtek' |
| 21:59.11 | fsmithred | apt-cache show firmware-realtek gives me a little information in jessie or ascii, and gives me that same information plus a list of realtek models supported in wheezy and stretch. |
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| 22:01.38 | Centurion_Dan | Inocuous: if you've got a high ambient humidity and a good build up of dust on the memory modules, particularly around the edge contact strips, give a good clean. I've fixed a number of pc's with a good clean using a pastry brush and vacuum cleaner. |
| 22:02.14 | Centurion_Dan | groan.... |
| 22:03.20 | Centurion_Dan | you'd think english wasn't my my first language the way I'm typing today. |
| 22:03.26 | fsmithred | bb 1hr |
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| 22:10.03 | aitor | hi centurion_DAn, fsmithred :) |
| 22:10.41 | aitor | Centurion_Dan |
| 22:11.17 | aitor | hi rrp' |
| 22:11.26 | ange | well ... got an AMI, it starts and kernel panic because of the FS |
| 22:11.46 | ange | that sounds like more to check tomorrow ... |
| 22:12.20 | aitor | rrq` |
| 22:12.43 | rrq | mornin' |
| 22:12.55 | aitor | morning` |
| 22:13.25 | aitor | i just send an email to the mailing list |
| 22:14.23 | aitor | if you understand spanish: |
| 22:14.26 | aitor | http://lasombradelhelicoptero.com/90-segundos-odiando-a-systemd/ |
| 22:14.55 | Centurion_Dan | hi aitor! |
| 22:15.10 | aitor | hi dan :) |
| 22:15.33 | rrq | got a participation certificate from the 2-week course in Spanish :-) |
| 22:15.54 | golinux | Centurion_Dan: You called? |
| 22:15.57 | aitor | the author mentions to our friend Emiliano Marini |
| 22:16.20 | aitor | He is from Argentina, i think |
| 22:16.37 | aitor | So, he doesn't surf |
| 22:18.34 | aitor | i talked about this issue months ago: |
| 22:18.35 | aitor | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160120.004934.14fa1655.en.html |
| 22:21.03 | aitor | Emiliano Marini translated dev1fanboys guide about how to upgrade from debian to devuan |
| 22:23.15 | aitor | lasombradelhelicoptero means: |
| 22:23.34 | aitor | i take my hat off |
| 22:23.51 | aitor | really |
| 22:24.07 | Centurion_Dan | aitor: :-) |
| 22:24.41 | aitor | you don't believe it :) |
| 22:24.42 | Centurion_Dan | I tried to google translate that page and google failed... apparently it was too big. |
| 22:25.16 | Centurion_Dan | I do, absolutely. |
| 22:25.50 | aitor | you are talented |
| 22:25.53 | rrq | i got google to suggest "helicopter shadow" |
| 22:26.11 | rrq | would be "I put my hat on" ??? |
| 22:26.50 | aitor | save.. i'm googling |
| 22:26.58 | rrq | or no: "it blows ny hat off" :-) |
| 22:27.39 | rrq | or perhaps "it blows my mind and my hat is off"... |
| 22:28.01 | aitor | lol.. see you tomorrow :) |
| 22:28.24 | rrq | I'm here already. see you. |
| 22:28.41 | aitor | bye |
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