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| 00:45.04 | rumflump | for your devuan installs, garg? |
| 00:52.04 | rumflump | hm. even using that mirror I can't do it. for some reason installing ubuntu in my VM was easy as pie, but devuan keeps failing at the additional software step. but I don't want ubuntu :( |
| 00:52.53 | rumflump | oh wait, my own whinge gives me an idea. I can just uncheck all the boxes, boot to a bare terminal, probably! |
| 00:56.53 | rumflump | ha, totally works |
| 00:57.13 | rumflump | now to get apt-get using something else, dpkg I assume |
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| 00:59.59 | Centurion_Dan | rumflump: Yeah, if you have system utilities selected it fails, but re-doing that step it does complete. I think it's an issue of an incorrect predepends. |
| 01:01.01 | rumflump | oh really, so I can have a DE if I reinstall without checking that bottom box for additional utilities? that would make my life a smidge easier |
| 01:12.16 | Centurion_Dan | Yup, or you can just re-do that step re-selecting the same stuff and it will most likely complete (did IIRC everytime for me when I did a desktop install - last one was yesterday) |
| 01:13.27 | rumflump | you mean after installing, right? I tried retrying that step in a lotta ways, to no avail. the VM aspect of this may be making it harder for me than others |
| 01:13.41 | rumflump | retrying it during the install I mean |
| 01:14.15 | rumflump | OH WAIT I think I get what you mean. install the other stuff. then come back and add in utilities |
| 01:14.28 | rumflump | sorry for being dense |
| 01:16.54 | Centurion_Dan | When the additional software step fails, just run it again with the same selection. Should go through 2nd time. |
| 01:18.19 | rumflump | I beat my face against it for awhile last night, I would hope that I tried that already. I'll give it a shot now just in case though, thanks for the idea! |
| 01:22.45 | Centurion_Dan | if you identify the offending package, I'll look into trying to resolve the issue. It just likely needs a tweak to the dependencies which I should be able to achieve using archive overrides. |
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| 01:29.20 | rumflump | fab, I'll try to do so |
| 01:29.49 | rumflump | syslog, lsb-release, or status? |
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| 01:32.21 | rumflump | finish-install says install ok half-configured, but that's probably not the problem |
| 01:32.41 | rumflump | a few things say install ok unpacked, instead of install ok installed |
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| 01:35.36 | rumflump | oh here we go |
| 01:36.22 | rumflump | ok, I'll have some screenshots in a sec, finishing install |
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| 01:43.38 | rumflump | oh butts. it seems /mnt/install/ wasn't on the target machine, it's on the liveCD's temporary file system. one of the offending packages was in cinnamon desktop, that's all I remember |
| 01:44.05 | rumflump | I'll install again within the next day or so and try to get the logs or a screenshot of them out properly |
| 01:45.03 | Centurion_Dan | there will be the installer syslog in /var/log/installer |
| 01:45.36 | Centurion_Dan | infact if you could just archive and email me the /var/log/installer dir that would be fab. |
| 01:45.55 | rumflump | cool, will do |
| 01:46.07 | rumflump | thanks for the help! |
| 01:54.40 | rumflump | I uh, created a bunch of little archives instead of one big one. I did "sudo gzip -rv installer/" |
| 01:56.33 | Centurion_Dan | rumflump: tar -czf installer-logs.tgz /var/log/installer should do it. |
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| 01:56.54 | rumflump | cheers, thanks again |
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| 13:18.49 | rypervenche | Is it still possible to convert a Debian installation to Devuan or will I have to reinstall? |
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| 13:29.27 | lime_ | you can try, it's risky |
| 13:29.36 | lime_ | back up your data |
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| 16:53.27 | sixwheeledbeast | I believed the idea of Devuan was to be able to switch like this. It's Beta at the moment and a back up before stuff like this would be a sensible idea. |
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| 17:35.52 | hellekin | rypervenche: "backup your data" is a generic good advice before doing any such things. Your conversion can go from very easy (e.g. upgrading from wheezy without much Gnome) to a bit hard (e.g., from Debian Jessie with full GNOME desktop to Devuan Jessie). Many people have had the former experience. I tried once Debian Jessie to Devuan, and I had to play back and forth with apt-get -f install and bypassing |
| 17:35.54 | hellekin | a couple of pre-rm scripts |
| 17:36.35 | hellekin | downgrading is always more bumpy than upgrading |
| 17:37.03 | hellekin | and 'sidegrading' is mostly OK (if you're not a heavy GNOME user, but that hopefully will settle down) |
| 17:37.42 | rypervenche | hellekin: Yeah, there's no GUI on this. It's Jessie. |
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| 17:45.33 | jordila | hellekin , you mentioned .. Debian Jessie >> Devuan ^^ .. OK (if you're not a heavy GNOME user, but that hopefully will settle down) , |
| 17:46.00 | jordila | any experiencies or feedback con Debian Jessie (Xfce) >>> Devuan ? |
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| 18:47.19 | edbarx | Compiling the MANAGER; freedesktop insists to use ver >= 4.7! Grrrrrr, but I am on Debian. |
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| 18:59.36 | hellekin | rypervenche: no GUI, then upgrade should be a snap. Still, backup your data ;) |
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| 19:00.10 | hellekin | rypervenche: tell me how fast it boots after upgrade. Power on to Slim login tends to impress me every time |
| 19:07.59 | rypervenche | I'll let you know. I have two to do, so I can test them both. |
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| 19:26.02 | rypervenche | hellekin: It actually took a minute longer to boot on Devuan, but I don't care :P Systemd-free now. |
| 19:26.09 | rypervenche | And that could be hardware. |
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| 20:42.46 | hellekin | rypervenche: I saw it blast off on an x220 laptop |
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| 20:49.48 | rypervenche | hellekin: Yeah, it was just that machine was slower. |
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| 21:33.10 | rumflump | Centurion_Dan: did you get the logs? |
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| 21:38.09 | Centurion_Dan | yep, had a dig through and also the logs from the install I did the day before, and both showed it was a package download failure... so just a mirror issue. |
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| 23:33.50 | rumflump | ok, good to know, thanks |
| 23:34.42 | rumflump | I'll try a new vm this weekend! |
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