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| 03:36.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~bugtracker |
| 03:36.51 | infobot | well, bugtracker is https://devuan.org/os/issues (soon) |
| 03:39.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | >> bugs.devuan.org This host will run debbugs for interoperability with Debian and Debian bug-reporting tools (namely, the reportbug utility).<< future tense |
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| 13:59.11 | Inocuous | good morning |
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| 14:03.26 | Inocuous | icedove. nice |
| 14:15.34 | fsmithred | I think icedove is cruel and vindictive. |
| 14:15.46 | fsmithred | and sneaky |
| 14:17.35 | Inocuous | lol |
| 14:17.54 | Inocuous | I have it installed but I seldom use it. |
| 14:18.13 | Inocuous | I think I installed it to get the linux mail subsystem to work. |
| 14:18.19 | Inocuous | idk if that worked or not. |
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| 14:23.48 | fsmithred | exim wasn't installed by default? |
| 14:37.16 | Inocuous | idk |
| 14:37.35 | fsmithred | dpkg -l |grep exim |
| 14:37.36 | Inocuous | I'm linux illiterate. most of problems are lack of knowledge. |
| 14:38.01 | fsmithred | did you ever see the beginners guide at forums.debian.net? |
| 14:40.04 | Inocuous | I have to reboot. one sec. |
| 14:40.15 | fsmithred | ok |
| 14:40.22 | fsmithred | we'll talk about that later |
| 14:40.28 | fsmithred | the rebooting, I mean |
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| 14:45.40 | Inocuous | I've lost all my scrollback. but I made it. |
| 14:45.53 | Inocuous | it's like 4 or five steps to boot devuan now. |
| 14:48.04 | Inocuous | my wife's devuan machine kept getting hung up on xscreensaver |
| 14:48.43 | Inocuous | it was asking for a password to get back into the system. which was never set apparently. thus the endless loop. |
| 14:52.04 | golinux | Inocuous: scrollback is here https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/ |
| 14:52.48 | fsmithred | Inocuous, here's a link to the beginner's guide - http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=58557 |
| 14:56.17 | fsmithred | Inocuous, where'd you go? |
| 14:56.41 | Inocuous | I'm here. I Had to light the stove for my wife. she's cold this morning. |
| 14:56.47 | fsmithred | ah, ok |
| 14:57.03 | fsmithred | want to fix the screensaver? |
| 14:58.14 | Inocuous | I removed it from hers. |
| 14:58.20 | fsmithred | lol, ok |
| 14:58.36 | Inocuous | why would that be getting activated? |
| 14:58.39 | fsmithred | there's a setting for lock screen after some time |
| 14:58.55 | fsmithred | I'm guessing the box is checked |
| 14:59.28 | Inocuous | oh I see. |
| 14:59.56 | fsmithred | why did you reboot? |
| 14:59.57 | Inocuous | my wife is very impatient with computers. she was probably pressing the wrong button too. |
| 15:00.10 | Inocuous | I was in windows 10. |
| 15:00.21 | fsmithred | menu - settings - screensaver |
| 15:00.34 | fsmithred | oh, sorry to hear it |
| 15:00.42 | Inocuous | I've been using wampserver to develop a web site. |
| 15:00.48 | fsmithred | did you wash your hands when you were done? |
| 15:00.51 | Inocuous | haha |
| 15:00.59 | Inocuous | and a shower |
| 15:01.42 | Inocuous | I've got a php heavy website that I really need to run local for testing and debugging. |
| 15:01.45 | fsmithred | so you have a problem with system mail? |
| 15:02.04 | Inocuous | oh, yes, I don't know if I ever got it to work |
| 15:02.18 | Inocuous | icedove was woring tho |
| 15:02.19 | fsmithred | generally, exim4 gets installed, and it just works |
| 15:02.48 | fsmithred | less /var/spool/mail/inocuous |
| 15:03.06 | fsmithred | or whoever the primary user is |
| 15:03.46 | fsmithred | if you want to get fancy, you can probably get it with icedove |
| 15:04.10 | fsmithred | but if that's all you need a mail client for, you should use something that doesn't suck up 300mb ram |
| 15:04.37 | Inocuous | there must be some settings I need to set there. |
| 15:05.31 | fsmithred | probably search linux thunderbird local mail |
| 15:05.34 | fsmithred | or system mail |
| 15:06.37 | Inocuous | the last lines is 'mailing to remote domains not supported' |
| 15:06.42 | Inocuous | maybe that's normal. |
| 15:07.49 | fsmithred | last line of what? |
| 15:08.18 | Inocuous | the last visible line in the terminal window was that, but there is quite a lot of other stuff when I scroll down. |
| 15:08.54 | fsmithred | you're reading the mail now? |
| 15:09.32 | Inocuous | To: root@devuan.somethingup |
| 15:09.32 | Inocuous | Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender |
| 15:10.26 | Inocuous | anyway, that was from less /var/spool/mail/inocuous line you posted back a bit |
| 15:10.36 | fsmithred | ok |
| 15:10.47 | fsmithred | if that's all you get there, then maybe run: |
| 15:10.53 | fsmithred | dpkg-reconfigure exim4 |
| 15:11.05 | fsmithred | that's an educated guess |
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| 15:14.10 | Inocuous | that's probably the right thing. |
| 15:14.37 | fsmithred | it'll probably ask you who you want to get the mail |
| 15:15.43 | Inocuous | are you familiar with windows wampserver? I mean what it does ? |
| 15:15.53 | fsmithred | no |
| 15:16.20 | Inocuous | it allows you to run your website localling, executes php and javascript.. etc. |
| 15:16.26 | Inocuous | locally |
| 15:16.39 | fsmithred | oh, that sound familiar |
| 15:16.53 | fsmithred | I think I used something like that about 10-12 years ago |
| 15:16.57 | Inocuous | there are others, i think maybe xamp or whatever |
| 15:17.00 | fsmithred | tinyamp? |
| 15:17.15 | Inocuous | anyway, that's why I've been using windows. |
| 15:17.22 | Inocuous | I need that capability |
| 15:17.39 | fsmithred | apt-get install apache2 |
| 15:17.44 | fsmithred | oh, and php |
| 15:17.51 | fsmithred | then http://localhost |
| 15:18.03 | fsmithred | you're behind a router? |
| 15:18.08 | Inocuous | I think I have all that stuff installed. |
| 15:18.19 | Inocuous | I'll try running from the localhost and see what happens |
| 15:18.30 | fsmithred | pages go in /var/www/html/ |
| 15:18.38 | fsmithred | or else learn to make virtual hosts |
| 15:19.37 | Inocuous | sounds familiar. wampserver runs from a www dir as well. |
| 15:19.44 | fsmithred | there's a little more than that, but if you're only running it locally, it's not too difficult |
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| 15:35.05 | Inocuous | ok. that's working |
| 15:35.29 | Inocuous | I had to launch thunar from root to copy files. |
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| 15:41.15 | fsmithred | when you went to the default web page, was it apache docs or "It works"? |
| 15:45.52 | Inocuous | it was the apache default page |
| 15:46.16 | fsmithred | there's an apache-doc package you could install |
| 15:46.23 | fsmithred | that gives you full documentation |
| 15:46.37 | fsmithred | good to have, but you should looks for some basic howtos |
| 15:47.13 | Inocuous | well, I mostly worry about security. I don't know how visible this makes the system on the internet. |
| 15:47.30 | fsmithred | are you behind a router? |
| 15:47.36 | Inocuous | yeah. |
| 15:47.57 | fsmithred | ok, as long as you don't set up port forwarding of http to that machine, you should be fine |
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| 15:48.39 | fsmithred | brb |
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| 15:58.00 | Inocuous | now I'm locked in if I start to edit, else I have to move the files from linux to windows to linux every time. very clever fsmithred |
| 15:58.07 | Inocuous | :) |
| 15:58.23 | fsmithred | what? |
| 15:58.34 | fsmithred | oh, I get it |
| 15:58.48 | fsmithred | eyes not so good - I read "tiles" the first time. |
| 15:58.51 | Inocuous | they each want their own space. haha |
| 15:59.06 | fsmithred | so that gives you an excuse to learn rsync |
| 15:59.36 | fsmithred | assuming that the files can be the same on both |
| 16:00.14 | Inocuous | yes, I've tried a few different things over the years. cross platform seems to pose a challenge. |
| 16:01.44 | Inocuous | good thing about web files you can always pull down the files with filezilla if you there is any doubt. |
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| 16:04.09 | Inocuous | anyway, it makes life interesting. |
| 16:05.17 | Inocuous | what's the word on the street about the next phase for devuan fsmithred |
| 16:05.18 | Inocuous | ? |
| 16:05.26 | fsmithred | I like being able to make the computer do things the way I want |
| 16:05.50 | Inocuous | you've got the linux flu. :) |
| 16:05.57 | fsmithred | uh, at some point, probably not too far off, they will declare it stable, and then start concentrating on ascii |
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| 16:06.33 | Inocuous | I haven't done an update recently. I probably should. |
| 16:07.06 | fsmithred | yeah, there have been some in the past few weeks |
| 16:07.25 | Inocuous | someday I am going to invest in a linux only system. when I strike it rich probably. |
| 16:08.12 | fsmithred | no, get someone's trash computer. |
| 16:08.25 | fsmithred | people throw out perfectly good computers all the time |
| 16:08.31 | fsmithred | or mostly good ones |
| 16:09.15 | AntoFox | On talk.devuan.org the certificate expired on 17/09/16 15:26 |
| 16:10.12 | Inocuous | my circle of friends is so small, or they are all misers and won't part with their old laptops. haha |
| 16:10.38 | AntoFox | oh sorry wrong chat |
| 16:10.39 | fsmithred | oh, laptops are not as easy to fix |
| 16:11.12 | AntoFox | :P |
| 16:11.14 | fsmithred | AntoFox, I think you're in the right one, and we're in the wrong one. |
| 16:12.38 | AntoFox | fsmithred: I had to send to my contact in the other chat |
| 16:12.54 | fsmithred | oh, ok. |
| 16:13.40 | Inocuous | I don't know what he was talking about. |
| 16:13.59 | fsmithred | lol, that's ok |
| 16:14.08 | fsmithred | he just posted in the wrong window |
| 16:15.30 | Inocuous | are you using any other browsers under devuan besides chromium or iceweasel fsmithred ? |
| 16:16.16 | fsmithred | I put palemoon on a recent install, but I haven't used it much. |
| 16:16.27 | fsmithred | I have used it in the past, and it was good. |
| 16:16.55 | fsmithred | and I use lynx occasionally |
| 16:19.11 | fsmithred | bb in 10min. coffee run. |
| 16:20.13 | Inocuous | coffee sounds good. I'm not going to run tho. it's just in the kitchen. |
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| 16:35.55 | Inocuous | I've been getting 2 20 ounce coffees at cumberland farms on my way to the shop each day. So spoiled. |
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| 18:35.37 | somerandomnick | Seems the Devuan security archive once again has a rather important issue... |
| 18:36.13 | Inocuous | what is the issue? |
| 18:36.46 | somerandomnick | GnuPG just got updated elsewhere, Devuan doesn't have any update. |
| 18:38.44 | somerandomnick | The security archive needs to be watched like a hawk, it keeps falling over and stops getting updates. |
| 18:39.01 | Akuli | upgrades his system |
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| 18:42.19 | fsmithred | somerandomnick, what version is debian serving now? |
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| 19:19.46 | golinux | hellekin: Please fix the certificate on discourse. It's 'untrusted' yet again . . . |
| 19:22.36 | zdzichu | someone's cron script is not fireing right |
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| 19:28.15 | edbarx | Does anyone know what can I do about this kernel complaint during boot? |
| 19:28.31 | edbarx | [drm] Wrong MCH_SSKPD value: 0x16040307 |
| 19:28.31 | edbarx | [drm] This can cause pipe underruns and display issues. |
| 19:30.51 | Akuli | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/176982/what-is-mch-sskpd-warning-in-dmesg |
| 19:31.20 | Akuli | seems to be exactly same as yours, even the hexadecimal number matches |
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| 20:11.05 | somerandomnick | fsmithred: They're doing 1.4.18-7+deb8u3 |
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| 22:43.04 | Inocuous | fsmithred did you find your coffee? |
| 22:43.17 | fsmithred | yeah, long ago |
| 22:43.33 | Inocuous | haha. ok. Me too. :) Must be time for another. |
| 22:44.38 | Inocuous | I've got some issues with iceweasel working with some of my javascript but most of the browsers are working ok with it. |
| 22:48.03 | fsmithred | I know nothing about javascript except what I use to not let it run in my browser. |
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| 23:30.39 | somerandomnick | Coffee is for whimps, makes a decent sleep aid for me. :-) |
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| 23:38.39 | aitor | hi |
| 23:39.05 | Inocuous | hi |
| 23:39.49 | aitor | i've been downloading the sources of aufs froom a wrong upstream, i think... |
| 23:41.05 | aitor | the right sources for linux-libre-4.6 are: |
| 23:41.08 | aitor | https://github.com/sfjro/aufs4-standalone/tree/aufs4.6 |
| 23:41.30 | Inocuous | I'm not familiar with it. |
| 23:42.15 | aitor | debian sid's patchs fails for some reason |
| 23:45.01 | aitor | one in particular |
| 23:45.06 | aitor | save... |
| 23:47.59 | aitor | the genthe gen-patch |
| 23:48.18 | aitor | the gen-patch |
| 23:49.38 | aitor | the script which supposedly adds aufs4-standalone's sources |
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| 23:52.01 | aitor | i added all the quilt patches, including features/all/aufs4, and fs/aufs was missing... |
| 23:54.12 | aitor | including all the patches located in features/all/aufs4/, it is understood |
| 23:56.23 | Inocuous | I think we have a limited pool of advisers tonight. |
| 23:56.45 | aitor | this afternoon i applied the above sources, and it's building succesfully, appearently |
| 23:57.24 | aitor | lol, it's building succesfully :) |
| 23:58.34 | aitor | i'm trying to build a live image with vdev and linux-libre-4.6.2 |