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| 07:06.26 | aitor | hi all |
| 07:07.29 | aitor | i installed the system with vdev, and after that i installed xfce |
| 07:08.20 | aitor | fdisk detects my usb sticks, but they don-t appear in thunar |
| 07:08.57 | aitor | oh, i have to change my keyboard configuration |
| 07:10.30 | aitor | yesterday i said that system did some strange things during the boot |
| 07:11.11 | aitor | they are the actions located in /etc/vdev/actions |
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| 07:17.10 | aitor | now we have to integrate the make-initramfs.sh in the initramfs-tools package |
| 07:17.58 | aitor | but the hooks and the scripts must be located in the vdev package |
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| 07:28.25 | aitor | i'll reinstall the system with openbox and obdevicemanager |
| 07:28.34 | aitor | see you |
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| 08:21.08 | thessy1 | hi, started with https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta_armhf_raspi2.img.xz on raspberry2. Anybody else? what's the best way to put rpi-firmware on it? |
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| 09:05.29 | jaromil | thessy1: on that image is already loaded all the firmware needed |
| 09:05.51 | jaromil | that's why its called raspi2. i guess we should clear this in the documentation since you are not the first person wondering about this |
| 09:15.56 | Centurion_Dan | jaromil: I |
| 09:17.43 | Centurion_Dan | have completed the algorithm PoC for creating and applying the delta in https://git.devuan.org/CenturionDan/SODelta |
| 09:19.12 | Centurion_Dan | I'm now working on (and close to finishing support for the objects subkey matching an checking which we need to be able to parse the deb822 paragraphs. |
| 09:22.42 | thessy1 | jaromil: thanks for clarification |
| 09:23.06 | Centurion_Dan | I already can create a delta of the InRelease files. Now I need to add the test functions to be able to apply the delta back to make sure I can recreate the result. |
| 09:23.08 | jaromil | Centurion_Dan: cheers! I'm on my way to be back on desk tomorrow |
| 09:23.18 | Centurion_Dan | ok cool. |
| 09:23.25 | jaromil | test functions as in test units |
| 09:23.27 | jaromil | ? |
| 09:24.11 | Centurion_Dan | I'm writing unit tests to prove my code as I go ;-) |
| 09:25.11 | Centurion_Dan | If you have a look at the above project, you can run difftest which is a little unit test I wrote to validate the algorithm. |
| 09:25.56 | Centurion_Dan | ** difftest.py |
| 09:29.57 | Centurion_Dan | now as I've added the ability to match and check object subkeys to apply the same algorithm, I have to use complex objects to test so I'm using a pair of InRelease files from the same tree from a couple of days a part as the test for the more complex objects, and finally when I think I have it right I will test a full blown packages file. |
| 09:30.08 | Centurion_Dan | (pair of files) |
| 09:30.47 | Centurion_Dan | Once that is done I can apply to amprolla. |
| 09:32.13 | GeneralStupid | Hi, i need to "upgrade" or "revert" packages i installed from dmo ... |
| 09:32.24 | GeneralStupid | how can i do that, is there an easy way, like pinning? |
| 09:32.39 | Centurion_Dan | jaromil: I had a good chat today with nextime too, and the work I am doing here will be good for his amprolla rewrite as that will also be mostly based in python. |
| 09:33.24 | jaromil | very good :^) |
| 09:33.37 | jaromil | great, I will try unit tests |
| 09:33.47 | Centurion_Dan | GeneralStupid: I wrote a bash one liner for that an age ago. |
| 09:34.01 | GeneralStupid | Centurion_Dan: do you have it now ? :D |
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| 09:37.33 | antofox | moring!! |
| 09:38.47 | Centurion_Dan | jaromil: so far it looks very fast too ;-) |
| 09:41.52 | jaromil | how about having something like travis-ci to run tests after commits? |
| 09:42.56 | Centurion_Dan | jaromil: travis-ci? |
| 09:44.18 | Centurion_Dan | I'm planning on adding support for hooks on the functionality for merging the delta so we can do things do inline dependency tests and blacklisting, and applying overrides. |
| 09:49.39 | Centurion_Dan | jaromil: ok travis-ci, we already have unit tests built in to most packages and I've worked hard to in most packages we build ensure they run. |
| 09:53.11 | Centurion_Dan | however it's hard to run the full test suites inline with the build system, but there are solutions to push that testing to other hosts, in many cases they can be run in parallel. But again that requires more time adding that capability to our build system. |
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| 10:05.30 | jaromil | yes that's why I think of mirroring some repos on github and just use its integration to travis |
| 10:05.51 | jaromil | less work and solid setup. used it before. will look into this. its great you made unit tests, very important |
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| 10:10.14 | aitor | I am managing devices in gnuinos openbox with vdev, it works !! |
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| 10:13.34 | Centurion_Dan | GeneralStupid: not on hand... |
| 10:14.40 | aitor | i am going to reboot the system, installing openbox my keyboard configuration changed |
| 10:14.56 | GeneralStupid | Centurion_Dan: i think i have found a way -.- |
| 10:15.56 | Centurion_Dan | ok |
| 10:16.14 | GeneralStupid | not nice but dpkg --purge --force-depends, then reinstall the package -.- |
| 10:18.28 | GeneralStupid | but looks like i already purged every critical package -.- |
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| 10:21.13 | aitor | mmmh..., i'm still with the same configuration |
| 10:21.34 | aitor | i'm running dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 10:21.43 | GeneralStupid | and finally, i am able to install opencv :D |
| 10:24.36 | aitor | i've XKBLAYOUT="es" in my /etc/default/keyboard... |
| 10:27.51 | aitor | see you later |
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| 12:08.49 | lich-li | hi |
| 12:08.54 | lich-li | hi |
| 12:09.13 | lich-li | I am doing apt-get dist-upgrade and it hanged on Generating grub configuration file |
| 12:09.17 | lich-li | what may be going on? |
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| 12:15.08 | lich-li | nevermind, had slow nfs drive mounted |
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| 13:39.54 | txt | I want to install midori. It's in debian but I miss it in the devuan repository. |
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| 13:43.11 | muep | I can not see it in debian jessie either |
| 13:44.13 | txt | ah ⦠it's only in jessie-backports (according to https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=midori ) |
| 13:44.29 | txt | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=midori shows it also in jessie |
| 13:44.43 | KatolaZ | midori is in jessie |
| 13:44.51 | muep | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/midori |
| 13:45.18 | KatolaZ | I don't know if it is main or contrib though |
| 13:45.37 | muep | also this gives nothing https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=midori&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 13:45.59 | KatolaZ | my fault |
| 13:46.03 | KatolaZ | it's in backports |
| 13:46.12 | KatolaZ | apparently from stretch |
| 13:46.15 | KatolaZ | sorry |
| 13:46.48 | KatolaZ | I forgot I had included backports from debian jessie in sources.list |
| 13:46.52 | KatolaZ | sorry :) |
| 13:46.58 | txt | KatolaZ, happens |
| 13:47.25 | txt | thanks to the support anyway |
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| 13:55.20 | aitor | hi |
| 13:56.01 | aitor | my problem with the configuration of the keyboard is only starting xorg |
| 13:56.52 | aitor | in the virtual ttys works fine, so the origin is the configuration of xserver-xorg |
| 13:58.39 | aitor | /etc/X11/xkb is empty |
| 13:59.28 | aitor | and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing |
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| 14:05.24 | zdzichu | didn't you install vdev recently? |
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| 14:07.24 | aitor | i built an image yesterday and i'mm testing it: |
| 14:07.26 | aitor | http://188.165.204.61/vdev/ |
| 14:07.50 | aitor | it uses vdev, yes |
| 14:08.30 | aitor | i just found this tool: |
| 14:08.31 | aitor | https://github.com/simos/keyboardlayouteditor |
| 14:08.36 | aitor | https://github.com/simos/keyboardlayouteditor |
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| 14:09.17 | aitor | i can manage devices without issues |
| 14:12.18 | aitor | i think that the problem is not with vdev: i installed a server image, and after the installation in the hard disk i installed the window-manager, xorg, xinit... |
| 14:13.20 | aitor | if i build an image containing xorg, surelly devuan installer will configure the keyboard for X sessions, i think |
| 14:13.33 | aitor | i have to test it |
| 14:13.57 | aitor | i'm not sure |
| 14:16.55 | aitor | the keyboard works fine in the console sessions: tty1... tty6 |
| 14:22.38 | aitor | i'll try it, i'm going to change the hard disk |
| 14:22.44 | aitor | see you |
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| 14:31.56 | zdzichu | xorg uses udev to find keyboards and mice |
| 14:32.10 | zdzichu | you apparently have not created patches to use vdev instead |
| 14:32.13 | zdzichu | oh, he left |
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| 14:43.14 | aitor | thanks zdzichu, i'm going to see what i can do |
| 14:43.20 | aitor | see you :) |
| 14:47.34 | zdzichu | how did he know? |
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| 15:01.12 | detha | devious minds could think he was also logged in under another nick. However, the solution is probably simpler: the channel is publicly logged. |
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| 16:13.26 | aitor | zdzichu: know what? |
| 16:14.04 | aitor | detha: the channel is not logged publicly, is it? |
| 16:14.49 | detha | https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/ |
| 16:14.49 | nextime | https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan |
| 16:14.56 | aitor | zdzichu: now i'm in devuan with udev and the behavior is the same |
| 16:15.34 | aitor | lol, another pointer erros once again |
| 16:16.03 | aitor | detha is known now as nextime? |
| 16:16.18 | detha | is innocent |
| 16:16.50 | aitor | oh, so, they are not the same person' |
| 16:16.54 | nextime | lol |
| 16:16.59 | nextime | no, i'm not detha |
| 16:17.00 | nextime | :) |
| 16:17.10 | aitor | :) |
| 16:17.32 | nextime | back to vim session |
| 16:17.37 | aitor | i'm comparing the behavior of the keyboard with udev and vdev |
| 16:18.13 | aitor | i think that the keyboard configuration setup by d-i |
| 16:18.32 | aitor | nothing to do with dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
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| 16:19.08 | aitor | appearently |
| 16:19.47 | aitor | nextime: i saw the patch of centurion_dan in git |
| 16:20.10 | aitor | i also will upload the sources of vdev to git |
| 16:20.36 | nextime | aitor: patch to what? vdev? |
| 16:20.46 | aitor | amprolla |
| 16:20.59 | aitor | there is a link in the irc |
| 16:21.46 | nextime | aitor: there is no yet merge request |
| 16:21.59 | nextime | anyway, he is working to make some modification on amprolla 1 |
| 16:22.06 | nextime | i'm actually working on amprolla 2 |
| 16:22.11 | aitor | ok |
| 16:22.19 | nextime | amprolla 2 will probably integrate also centurion_dan code |
| 16:23.25 | aitor | i'm thinking about a solution for the git source format using reprepro |
| 16:23.52 | aitor | for a complete repo for gnuinos |
| 16:24.17 | nextime | aitor: probably you will have to give a shot on amprolla2 |
| 16:24.19 | aitor | one solution is to rebuild those packages with pbuilder whithin a jail |
| 16:24.29 | nextime | that will have a lot more features and will also sobstitute our dak install |
| 16:24.33 | aitor | yes, maybe |
| 16:24.57 | aitor | i'm pleased |
| 16:25.24 | aitor | and it's innovative |
| 16:25.56 | aitor | i would also like to be familiar with jenkins |
| 16:27.09 | aitor | nextime: i have to reboot the system, i'm building an image with vdev an openbox |
| 16:27.27 | aitor | people will like to test vdev :) |
| 16:27.32 | aitor | see you :) |
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| 18:48.46 | topro_ | hi there, I'm having trouble mounting nfs on boot via /etc/fstab on some of my devuan jessie (upgraded from debian wheezy some time ago) desktop machines. was working flawlssly until some dist-upgrade about 2 weeks ago. anyone encountered similar issue? |
| 18:49.00 | topro_ | manual mount -a fixes this immediately |
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| 18:49.50 | topro_ | its only a couple of machines having that trouble. others work perfect, even with latest dist-upgrade. cannot figure out the difference between those machines |
| 18:50.20 | Akuli | what's in your sources.list? |
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| 19:00.19 | topro_ | Akuli: http://packages.devuan.org/merged with dists jessie, jessie-updates, jessie-security and jessie-backports |
| 19:00.39 | topro_ | the same for all machines |
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| 19:25.31 | golinux | topro_: These are the current sources: |
| 19:25.36 | golinux | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie main |
| 19:25.36 | golinux | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main |
| 19:25.36 | golinux | deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main |
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| 19:27.19 | golinux | You must have upgraded quite a while ago to be using http://packages.devuan.org/merged |
| 19:28.31 | topro_ | golinux: packages.devuan.org seems to be working fine |
| 19:32.13 | golinux | OK. Do it your way. I don't know if packages.devuan.org is current. You might want to compare the two. All I know is that packages.devuan.org is IMO deprecated. |
| 19:32.31 | topro_ | I |
| 19:32.40 | topro_ | I'm just about comparing them... |
| 19:34.57 | nextime | auto.mirror.devuan.org actually just point to packages.devuan.org |
| 19:34.58 | topro_ | golinux: seems to be identical. I assume packages.devuan.org is one of the hosts you get when using auto mirror. I further assume packages.devuan.org was declared deprecated to people to use auto mirrors to better distribute server load |
| 19:35.02 | nextime | so, they ARE the same |
| 19:35.19 | topro_ | I see, my assumptions weren't that bad ;) |
| 19:35.24 | nextime | *BUT* in a not so distant future packages.devuan.org will be used only as a master repo for mirrors |
| 19:36.07 | nextime | and clients are expected to use *.mirror.devuan.org as it will be geo-distributed and to avoid loading the master repo |
| 19:37.16 | topro_ | nextime: ok, i'll adapt my sources lists accordingly. any idea on my original issue btw? ;) |
| 19:37.58 | golinux | nextime: Thanks for the clarification |
| 19:38.21 | nextime | topro_: no, it's the first time someone say that, and i don't have this issue, anyway, can be maybe your wheezy was using backports or something that isn't upgraded cause the old packages from debian is more updated? |
| 19:38.27 | nextime | ( just a speculation ) |
| 19:39.26 | nextime | or maybe a recentdebian jessie update that broke some dependency? |
| 19:39.42 | topro_ | hmm, interesting. anyway issue began only about 2 weeks ago and the upgrade from wheezy to devuan jessie was much earlier. in other words, devuan jessie was already wokring correctly, the i did my regulat upgrade and that broke it |
| 19:39.59 | golinux | doesn't do nfs - sorry |
| 19:40.01 | topro_ | I'll give apt-show-versions a try |
| 19:40.33 | nextime | yes thanks, i have to say i have NO devuan jessie installed except for test vm right now |
| 19:40.36 | nextime | ( i'm on ceres ) |
| 19:42.38 | topro_ | I got one ceres as well which does not show that issue |
| 19:43.12 | topro_ | and i got about 20 jessie machines of which about 50% of those having gotten an dist-upgrade the past 2 weeks show that issue |
| 19:45.07 | topro_ | I tested apt-show-versions on one of the failing machines and it does have newer packages than in repo, but thats purely qt4/qt5 packages. quite sure these are not related in mounting nfs on boot ;) |
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| 19:56.10 | topro_ | ok, now its getting interesting, tried running /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs by hand with some debug output. seems it is failing at that line... |
| 19:56.27 | topro_ | [ "$ADDRFAM" = "inet" ] || [ "$ADDRFAM" = "inet6" ] || exit 0 |
| 19:57.04 | topro_ | cannot find any reference that initializes ADDRFAM, so this is doomed to fail. how would that be intended to work in the first place? |
| 19:58.21 | topro_ | btw after removing that line my remote mounts will get mounted when manually starting that script |
| 20:06.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHRRRRGHAAAAAAARRGGHHHH!!! >> "instead of executing the mount operation directly and immediately, systemd-mount schedules it through the service manager job queue, so that it may pull in further dependencies (such as parent mounts, or a file system checker to execute a priori), and may make use of the auto-mounting logic." << |
| 20:07.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | mount for idiots |
| 20:07.58 | topro_ | DocScrutinizer05: related to my issue in any way or just coincidence? |
| 20:09.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | coincidence for sure |
| 20:09.32 | topro_ | I was afraid you'd say that ;) |
| 20:10.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Mount |
| 20:15.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | topro_: on cursor<y read of what you posted and what I found, maybe https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/issues/14 helps? |
| 20:17.01 | topro_ | cursor<y? |
| 20:17.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | typo |
| 20:17.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>We currently do not pass $ADDRFAM to the command scripts.<< |
| 20:18.45 | topro_ | nice link, that also declares why I suddenly had to remove resolvconf as it was no longer working. but I didn't further investigate that one as manually setting /etc/resolv.conf was just fine for me. maybe I'm getting closer. still strange that some machines are still working. let me just read that link... |
| 20:20.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | awesome >>Revert "fixes #14 addons: usercmds: adding environment variables pass⦠<< |
| 20:21.51 | topro_ | AFAIK i do not have ifupdown2 installed, its ifupdown(1) on both working and failing hosts. both the same version ii ifupdown 0.8.13~bpo8+1 |
| 20:24.31 | Centurion_Dan | o/ |
| 20:28.08 | gci_admin | \o |
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| 20:29.18 | topro_ | well, I'm getting closer. I changed those debug output of /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs to go to a log file and did the reboot. logfile indicates that mountnfs first gets called for $IFACE=lo, which will skip mounting nfs filesystems which is quite fine. after that mountnfs script gets called a second time (that was to be expected) but with $IFACE=--all and (now this is propably the problem) $ADDRFAM=meta |
| 20:33.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | sounds like a correct analysis |
| 20:35.10 | topro_ | but still doesnt give me the clue. don't get why if-up.d scripts don't get called for eth0 with ADDRFAM=inet on those hosts |
| 20:35.26 | topro_ | ifupdown didn't receive an update in quite a while |
| 20:37.13 | topro_ | sorry, I have to correct. seems like ifupdown DID get an update on that machine on 2016-08-12 which would fit in the time frame with that issue appearing |
| 20:37.49 | topro_ | update was from 0.7.53.1 to 0.8.13~bpo8+1 |
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| 20:47.54 | topro_ | according to docs ifupdown(1) would only call scripts in if-pre-up.d and if-down.d with ADDRFAM=meta. in my case it also does that to scripts in if-up.d. any idea? |
| 20:47.57 | topro_ | anyone? |
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| 20:49.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got a faint idea some hipsters trying to make it fit for ^^^ what I quoted above |
| 20:51.00 | topro_ | I GOT IT WORKING.... YAAAY |
| 20:51.10 | topro_ | still thats strange... |
| 20:51.35 | topro_ | my decleration of eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces was: "allow hotplug eth0" |
| 20:52.36 | topro_ | ich changed that to "auto eth0", now it works. still... for some of the other hosts i'm quite sure I have "allow-hotplug eth0" as well and they are working IIRC (cannot check as those other hosts are down atm) |
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| 20:57.31 | topro_ | any comment? "allow-hotplug eth0" without "auto eth0" was working for me for centuries. was that just by luck? |
| 20:59.02 | gci_admin | The digital fairies went on strike and broke it topro_. :) |
| 21:00.02 | topro_ | ok, now i feel better :/ |
| 21:00.30 | golinux | topro_: Glad you got it working |
| 21:01.11 | topro_ | well, i'm still not sure if that is really a fix or more like a workaround. it will do it for me atm, but who knows... |
| 21:04.34 | topro_ | anyway, thanks for all your support. DocScrutinizer05 think you pushed me the right direction |
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| 21:27.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, that wasn't much I did |
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