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| 00:11.26 | kadiro | the tty didn't work, thanks guys for the advice |
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| 01:40.16 | rrq | it looks like I made myself a busy Sunday, by breaking the vdev deb's that I had released |
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| 02:29.45 | fsmithred | rrq, I just tried the amd64 and have the same problem - usb connect/disconnect messages when I try to type. It's possible that it's my hardware. |
| 02:44.55 | rrq | right. yes I realised the very last "improvement" to the initrd builing hook had some faults. |
| 02:45.15 | fsmithred | ah, ok |
| 02:45.22 | rrq | I hadn't tested it; just briefly scanned it. (sloppy^2) |
| 02:45.29 | fsmithred | I'm in the middle of comparing two different vdev initrds |
| 02:45.44 | fsmithred | one good one bad |
| 02:45.50 | fsmithred | is that useful info? |
| 02:45.56 | rrq | also, the i386 building wasn't treated with any diligence :-( |
| 02:46.15 | rrq | I have corrected things now, and uploaded new packages. |
| 02:46.38 | fsmithred | I always assume my shit's gonna break, and I'm usually right. |
| 02:47.00 | rrq | the i386 building had a follow-on problem from using $(arch) to determine architecture |
| 02:47.42 | rrq | yeah; I had tested the amd64 version umpteen times before the improvement. |
| 02:47.48 | rrq | then I just got sloppy |
| 02:48.13 | rrq | awfully sorry to have wasted your time |
| 02:49.00 | rrq | please start anew.... I'll do a bit of Sunday now :-) |
| 02:49.12 | fsmithred | that's alright, I've been working on other stuff, too |
| 02:52.44 | fsmithred | I want to go to sleep before Sunday. See you later. |
| 02:57.05 | Centurion_Dan | OmegaPhil: I think we'd have to forward port the packages libplist2 and libimobiledevice4 (if their isn't a newer version we can build against. |
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| 06:21.30 | lime_ | Does an ascii ISO make sense yet? |
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| 10:25.28 | OmegaPhil | Centurion_Dan: OK, I will queue this up to look at |
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| 11:14.24 | OmegaPhil | .seen walshb |
| 11:14.27 | OmegaPhil | !seen walshb |
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| 11:18.50 | OmegaPhil | Hmm, just noticed ascii-proposed - so basically there is now a repo between Testing and Unstable? |
| 11:39.44 | fsmithred | rrq, the rebuilt amd64 debs work. They installed over the old debs and I rebooted into vdev with no issues. |
| 11:56.25 | gnu_srs1 | fsmithred: rrq: Nice :) |
| 11:58.13 | lime_ | can i go frrrom ascii-proposed -> ceres |
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| 14:14.58 | OmegaPhil | ... wonderful |
| 14:15.29 | OmegaPhil | Devuan moved /lib/init/vars.sh from sysvinit-utils to initscripts |
| 14:16.02 | OmegaPhil | That took some time to work out (and semi-bricked a migrated machine from Debian Testing, even though the devuan package was installed) |
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| 14:47.45 | lime_ | is it still safe toi go from ascii to ceres? |
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| 14:50.29 | lime_ | guess we'll find out |
| 14:54.53 | golinux | Is ceres ever "safe"? |
| 14:56.25 | lime_ | guess that depends on your outlook |
| 14:56.40 | lime_ | I like the bleeding edge |
| 15:00.19 | golinux | I prefer fossilized! Different strokes . . . |
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| 15:04.01 | demure | lol I always s/stable/stale/ when speaking of it. |
| 15:04.10 | lime_ | with stuff that 'has' to work |
| 15:04.26 | lime_ | i.e. production servers |
| 15:04.45 | lime_ | I also use s/stable/stale |
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| 15:24.44 | stephanie | I'd be happy to see the terminology shift ti stake / current / unstable |
| 15:24.52 | stephanie | stale even |
| 15:26.51 | OmegaPhil | Aren't the specific names used to make it obviously different from Debian? |
| 15:32.47 | stephanie | I mean for the "generic" names, not the release code names. |
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| 16:07.56 | jordila | . |
| 16:19.26 | detha | if one actually uses an OS in things that generate income, instead of just playing with it, stability >> oooh shiny :P |
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| 17:31.10 | pydsigner | There's a huge difference between cool features and "features I need to get work done" |
| 17:31.35 | pydsigner | I think stability falls under the latter for most. |
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| 18:15.51 | jordila | indeed pydsigner , i find myself spending much more time in the 'cool features' rather than in "features i need to get work done"... |
| 18:16.28 | jordila | "i had a dream last night, one day..." i might focus on getting work done ? |
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