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| 01:03.53 | Chanku | Wait wrong channel >.< |
| 01:06.25 | MinceR | lol |
| 01:10.01 | Chanku | XD |
| 01:10.03 | Chanku | :P |
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| 04:39.13 | aitor | fsmithred: i removed all my work to the trash, and made a fresh start linux-libre-4.6.2 |
| 04:39.29 | aitor | devuan-installer now it works |
| 04:39.59 | aitor | tested several times :) |
| 04:40.43 | aitor | now i'll to rebuild the kernel because there is no squashfs-module |
| 04:40.59 | aitor | i'll rebuild:) |
| 04:41.37 | aitor | adding the module it'll work in live mode. i tested it in amd64 |
| 04:42.55 | aitor | i'm doing a core system, without xorg, to work upon |
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| 04:56.11 | aitor | i also added the backend of simple-netaid and you'll have network connection in a very easy way |
| 04:58.46 | aitor | as i said in the mailing list, the official live-installer_49_i386.udeb fails depending on the size of the filesystem.squashfs |
| 04:58.58 | aitor | i'll test this issue |
| 05:02.28 | dnl | aitor: out of curiosity, why does it fail? if the squashfs is >2GB or >4GB? |
| 05:02.43 | dnl | or coudn't you pin-point it to a specific size? |
| 05:03.24 | aitor | Hi dnl !! |
| 05:03.34 | aitor | i'll send you a link |
| 05:04.18 | dnl | hi :) |
| 05:04.54 | aitor | test this image |
| 05:04.57 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/devuan/unhacked/ |
| 05:05.23 | aitor | corenominal patched live-installer |
| 05:05.42 | aitor | the example above is built without the patch |
| 05:06.12 | aitor | corenominal is the author of crunchbang, as you now |
| 05:06.45 | aitor | philip newborough |
| 05:24.07 | aitor | this is the patch |
| 05:24.09 | aitor | https://gitlab.com/aitor_czr/live-installer/commit/cf89c8d49196cc92d183640bd1697599bdcaed99 |
| 05:28.54 | dnl | i remember that there was a bug about tar being 'broken' in d-i/live-installer context some time ago, |
| 05:29.10 | aitor | today it worked |
| 05:29.57 | dnl | however, that should be fixed since 4 to 6 months ago already, iirc |
| 05:30.06 | aitor | it seems a random behavior |
| 05:30.21 | dnl | the image from 'unhacked' above worked for me in virtualbox |
| 05:30.59 | aitor | i'll test this issue today with a bigger filesystem :) |
| 05:31.31 | dnl | try building a gnome-desktop image (with recommends enabled), that will give you the largest image of the standard set. |
| 05:31.47 | aitor | ok, i'' tell you |
| 05:35.04 | aitor | when i build d-i, i locate all the *.udeb packages in the localudebs folder with the 586, 686-pae or amd64 kernel modules, depending on the architecture |
| 05:35.42 | aitor | for example, now i'm working with linux-libre-4.6.0-1-686 |
| 05:36.00 | aitor | i have 374 udeb packages in my localeudes |
| 05:37.59 | aitor | in my iso i located only 240 *udeb packages, in order to reduce the size of the image |
| 05:39.07 | aitor | i use an own script for that which compares them with the udebs of a debian live system |
| 05:39.20 | aitor | is there any criterion for selecting them? |
| 05:42.49 | aitor | for example localechooser is missing in the pool folder |
| 05:43.01 | aitor | rootskel-gtk is another example of that |
| 05:44.37 | aitor | is this fact reflected in the debian control files of each udeb package? |
| 05:44.57 | aitor | debian/control file:) |
| 05:49.16 | aitor | localechooser, rootskel-gtk... and some kernel-modules too... |
| 05:50.07 | dnl | currently, the udeb information (= the list of required udebs) is rather static |
| 05:50.14 | dnl | it hasn't changed since squeeze iirc |
| 05:50.36 | dnl | and this information is statically maintained as a list in debian-cd (and copied over to live-build) |
| 05:51.39 | dnl | what live-build does, iirc, is to fetch all udebs and put all of them (except the static white/blacklist from debian-cd) on the medium. |
| 05:52.15 | aitor | there are changes, but they are minor changes |
| 05:52.24 | dnl | i don't know that part off-hand anymore, haven't (needed) to touch it since fall 2015 :) |
| 05:52.37 | aitor | for example, in wheezy there was an ext2 |
| 05:53.01 | dnl | usually, we did the extensive installer tests before somewhat before the release |
| 05:53.14 | dnl | right, but the source package name is still the same, so that doesn't matter wrt/ ext4 |
| 05:54.45 | dnl | are you using live-build to build your images? if so, do you have some patches you would like to be merged back? |
| 05:56.00 | aitor | i use it in part |
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| 05:56.18 | aitor | but it would be interesting to work on it |
| 05:56.36 | robert-e | Using devuan, I have this script in init.d called shutdowncleanup |
| 05:56.42 | robert-e | #!/bin/sh |
| 05:57.02 | robert-e | rm -rf /home/bob/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/* |
| 05:57.06 | aitor | i build the filesystem-squashfs with live-build setting BUILD-IN-CHROOT to false |
| 05:57.17 | robert-e | and a link from both rc0.d |
| 05:57.34 | robert-e | ln -s /etc/init.d/shutdowncleanup /etc/rc0.d/K01shutdowncleanup |
| 05:57.49 | robert-e | and rc6.d |
| 05:58.05 | robert-e | ln -s /etc/init.d/shutdowncleanup /etc/rc6.d/K01shutdowncleanup |
| 05:58.15 | aitor | in any case, dnl, these changes are trivial |
| 05:58.23 | robert-e | The script does not run during shutdown, but does run from a root terminal in dir /etc/init.d |
| 05:58.41 | robert-e | What am I doing wrong? It does work in mint/ubuntu mate. |
| 05:59.28 | robert-e | I willhang around here for a bit, but it is getting past midnight here. sleep time. |
| 05:59.56 | aitor | for example, in linux-4.6.2 there isn't any msci-module |
| 06:00.52 | aitor | robert-e: are you talking about the bug starting devuan with vdev? |
| 06:01.40 | aitor | dnl: i also added the ext2 module to the debian branch of linux-libre |
| 06:02.24 | aitor | because i was using the following frame: debian stable + kernel of testing |
| 06:03.08 | aitor | the installer of debian stable + the kernel of debian testing (for a testing image) |
| 06:03.38 | aitor | https://gitlab.com/aitor_cz/linux-libre/branches |
| 06:06.43 | aitor | The right name of the variable is LB_BUILD_WITH_CHROOT |
| 06:07.45 | robert-e | aitor: No, not wrt vdev...only trying out this in devuan..will leave it for now..dont want to make noise on the channel. |
| 06:08.35 | aitor | ok, good night :) |
| 06:14.25 | aitor | dnl: what's your timezone? |
| 06:15.37 | dnl | aitor: utc+2 |
| 06:16.06 | aitor | ok, thanks |
| 06:16.48 | aitor | then, you are in europe |
| 06:16.53 | aitor | like me |
| 06:16.57 | dnl | .ch, yes; you? |
| 06:17.42 | aitor | yes, spain (basque country) |
| 06:18.19 | dnl | if you have any patches/$whatever, it would be nice if you'd report them against |
| 06:18.32 | dnl | https://packages.qa.debian.org/o/open-infrastructure-system-build.html |
| 06:19.18 | dnl | (or tell me about it otherwise) |
| 06:19.32 | dnl | git tree is at https://sources.progress-linux.org/users/daniel/debian/packages/open-infrastructure-system-build |
| 06:19.47 | dnl | (for the debian package) |
| 06:20.04 | aitor | i haven't any patch for now, but i'll notice you about possible improuvements |
| 06:20.11 | dnl | and https://sources.open-infrastructure.net/software/system-build/ for the upstream sources |
| 06:20.18 | aitor | improvements |
| 06:20.32 | dnl | great. any requests welcome :) |
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| 06:21.44 | aitor | dnl: you can email me where you want |
| 06:21.51 | aitor | aitor_czr@gnuinos.org |
| 06:22.25 | dnl | thanks |
| 06:22.55 | aitor | i'm unusual in the IRC in the rest of the year |
| 06:27.54 | aitor | but i'll try to be connected as much as possible. i've been ussing more the mailing list during these mounths |
| 06:28.23 | aitor | i'll notice about my progress towards the live images throughout the day in the IRC |
| 06:28.34 | aitor | nice to meet you, dnl |
| 06:28.39 | aitor | see you later :) |
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| 09:30.55 | aitor | hi all again |
| 09:32.43 | aitor | today i'll try to build the kernel within a chroot jail replacing libudev's libudev.so.1.5.2 by Jude Nelson's libudev.so.1.5.2 |
| 09:34.00 | aitor | i'll replace libudev.so.1 and libudev.so by symlics pointing to: |
| 09:34.18 | aitor | libudev.so --> libudev.so.1 |
| 09:34.59 | aitor | libudev.so.1 --> Jude's libudev.so.1.5.2 |
| 09:36.01 | aitor | Then i'll mantain libudev in the system, but libudev-compat will be used instead |
| 09:36.31 | aitor | and i'll remove libudev-dev, installing libudev-compat-dev |
| 09:36.51 | aitor | i'll add to the kernel's debian control: |
| 09:38.11 | aitor | Depends: libudev-dev <!stage1 !pkg.linux.notools> | libudev-compat-dev <!stage1 !pkg.linux.notools> |
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| 09:38.53 | aitor | and i'll cross my fingers :) |
| 09:39.15 | jordila | hi #devuan community |
| 09:39.49 | aitor | if it works, i'll do a second attempt removing libudev |
| 09:40.18 | aitor | it breaks xorg, this is the reason why i'am using a chroot |
| 09:41.24 | jordila | " we bring a new world in our CPUs .- ( Buenaventura DurrutiX " ? |
| 09:44.22 | aitor | building udev takes too long, but vdev builds inmediatetly |
| 09:44.45 | aitor | it'll reduce the system a lot, i hope |
| 09:44.53 | jordila | i'm quite impressed by the number of computing platforms Devuan is running on top of ... |
| 09:44.55 | jordila | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie_beta/ |
| 09:47.02 | aitor | debian's policy says that libudev-compat must be located in /usr/lib/${ARCH}-linux-gnu, but this is the location of libudev's runtime librarie |
| 09:47.16 | aitor | So, Jude Nelson used another path |
| 09:49.29 | jordila | [..] RaspPi [..] BananaPi... etc ..we are just missing Olinolinux - Olmex ... (almost) Free Hardware boards ? |
| 09:49.56 | aitor | ... and i have to use symlinks |
| 09:50.21 | jordila | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.29 | aitor | i allways write wrong this word, lol |
| 09:50.50 | jordila | which one aitor.. ? :-P |
| 09:50.59 | jordila | https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY%20Laptop/ ^^ |
| 09:51.05 | aitor | yes, jordilla very interesting |
| 09:51.38 | aitor | it seems cool |
| 09:51.49 | jordila | i knew this guys reciently in Bucharest ... they're manufacturing in Bulgary , BTW |
| 09:52.20 | aitor | i had had my eye on that |
| 09:52.33 | jordila | ah ... really ? |
| 09:53.50 | aitor | i'm dreaming with a live installation on olimex, wich allows you to do partitions |
| 09:54.35 | aitor | i built an image for raspi2 mounths ago, but you need to resize the partitions in the SDCard |
| 09:56.55 | aitor | on the other hand, the space in the home directory is not durable over time |
| 09:58.10 | aitor | *which* allows you :) |
| 10:13.21 | aitor | when i say libudev and libudev-compat, i'm referring to libudev1 and libudev1-compat, obviously |
| 10:14.02 | aitor | elementary, my dear Watson! |
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| 10:36.52 | jordila | aitor ... , willing to learn here... which are the pro's & con's of RaspberryPi vs Olimex ? |
| 10:46.26 | debdog | https://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO |
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| 13:54.29 | aitor | jordila: |
| 13:54.31 | aitor | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160310.102846.59db5dfd.en.html |
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| 14:10.54 | aitor | fsmithred :) |
| 14:11.33 | fsmithred | hi aitor |
| 14:12.35 | aitor | hi |
| 14:13.04 | aitor | i'm uploading an image with linux-4.6.2 and d-i to |
| 14:13.27 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/beta/linux-libre-4.6.2%20%28experimental%29/ |
| 14:14.06 | aitor | it still doesn't work in live mode, but you can test the installer |
| 14:14.51 | aitor | it's devuan plus linux-libre and simple-netaid |
| 14:17.17 | aitor | the size is 254.0 MiB, but check the md5, sha1 |
| 14:17.32 | aitor | the md5 :) |
| 14:18.37 | fsmithred | ok. What happens if you try to boot live? |
| 14:21.06 | fsmithred | how much longer on the upload? |
| 14:23.36 | aitor | i can't find it in devuan lurker |
| 14:23.47 | aitor | i find the subject "Re: [DNG] Need for documentation" |
| 14:24.13 | fsmithred | I gotta go. I'll be back in 90 min. |
| 14:24.18 | fsmithred | what are you looking for? |
| 14:25.07 | aitor | 53 min |
| 14:25.30 | aitor | 53 min for the upload |
| 14:25.40 | aitor | ok, sees you :) |
| 14:25.53 | aitor | see you :) |
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| 17:23.07 | aitor | hi Levure, flrn, IoFran, TemporalBeing1, Scartozzo, bill-auger... |
| 17:23.43 | bill-auger_ | erm...hi |
| 17:23.54 | aitor | :) |
| 17:24.30 | bill-auger_ | hm .. not a bot - wonder what that greeting was for |
| 17:24.49 | aitor | ?? |
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| 17:27.32 | aitor | there is available a minimal image of gnuinos-server 686 with linux-4.6.2 |
| 17:27.37 | aitor | the installer works |
| 17:27.39 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/beta/linux-libre-4.6.2%20%28experimental%29/ |
| 17:28.07 | aitor | it's devuan with linux-libre and the backend of simple-netaid |
| 17:29.26 | aitor | you can connect to eth0 via: |
| 17:29.29 | aitor | cd /usr/lib/simple-netaid/bin |
| 17:29.42 | aitor | ./backend 9 eth0 |
| 17:30.59 | aitor | the live mode still doesn't work |
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| 18:52.56 | fritsd | good evening |
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| 19:53.46 | golinux | fritsd: Hi. Have you read the botbot logs? https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/ |
| 19:54.30 | golinux | Some interesting discussion with dnl about live-build etc. |
| 19:54.55 | golinux | fsmithred might have filled you in about it. |
| 20:01.10 | fritsd | hi golinux |
| 20:01.20 | fritsd | yeah i seem to have completely missed the discussion :-( |
| 20:01.37 | fritsd | fsmithred e-mailed me |
| 20:01.48 | fritsd | but i haven't read those logs; thanks for the link |
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| 20:30.28 | fritsd | i'll go read those logs now. bye! |
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| 21:02.20 | aitor | Hi VUAs |
| 21:07.48 | Centurion_Dan | 0/ |
| 21:08.08 | aitor | hi dan ! |
| 21:08.19 | aitor | \o |
| 21:08.41 | MinceR | \0 |
| 21:09.05 | aitor | i have aquestion for you, vuas |
| 21:10.25 | aitor | i usually say: "i'm going to watering my syster's garden" |
| 21:11.42 | aitor | is it right? |
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| 21:12.23 | aitor | is it right? |
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| 21:13.01 | aitor | is it right in english? |
| 21:14.27 | aitor | really, i have three sisters with three gardens |
| 21:15.00 | aitor | how do you say in english? |
| 21:15.37 | aitor | i saw Rainer writing it by the following way: |
| 21:15.49 | aitor | my sister/\./s'\/s garden./s |
| 21:15.59 | aitor | is it right in english? |
| 21:18.33 | aitor | i detected a pointer error in a golinux comment: |
| 21:18.36 | aitor | fritsd: Hi. Have you read the botbot logs? https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/ |
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| 21:25.25 | fsmithred | aitor, are you still here? |
| 21:26.39 | aitor | yeeees |
| 21:26.48 | fsmithred | I am going to water one sister's garden later. |
| 21:27.00 | fsmithred | I am watering another sister's garden now. |
| 21:27.01 | aitor | big garden |
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| 21:27.28 | fsmithred | If I water the third sister's garden, I will have watered all my sisters' gardens. |
| 21:27.43 | aitor | you rock :) |
| 21:27.59 | fsmithred | English is my first language. |
| 21:28.18 | fsmithred | and I don't really have a second, but I've tried. |
| 21:28.56 | aitor | what about refracta? |
| 21:29.05 | fsmithred | what about it? |
| 21:29.11 | fsmithred | You mean the distro or the tools? |
| 21:29.24 | aitor | both |
| 21:29.36 | fsmithred | the i386 is ready |
| 21:30.00 | aitor | i saw some tools for youtube |
| 21:30.00 | fsmithred | the amd64 is ready if I give up the idea of having a uefi-capable installer |
| 21:30.20 | fsmithred | youtube-dl and youtube-viewer (I think) are installed |
| 21:30.25 | fsmithred | and mpv |
| 21:30.31 | fsmithred | no flash |
| 21:30.37 | aitor | i know |
| 21:31.08 | aitor | did you try my latest iso? |
| 21:31.09 | fsmithred | oh, maybe a youtube2what script, too. Uses avconv to convert video or audio files |
| 21:31.24 | fsmithred | not yet. I downloaded it, but I've been busy today. |
| 21:31.29 | fsmithred | I can fire it up now. |
| 21:31.57 | aitor | so, do you want d-i for refracta? |
| 21:32.36 | fsmithred | maybe |
| 21:33.18 | fsmithred | I don't know if it really fits with the format. |
| 21:33.23 | fsmithred | where does it get files? |
| 21:33.31 | fsmithred | other than devuan repo |
| 21:34.29 | aitor | You don't know if it really fits with the format? Why not? |
| 21:34.48 | fsmithred | will it install the running system, or does it need deb files? |
| 21:35.37 | fsmithred | d-i will install pure devuan, won't it? |
| 21:35.49 | aitor | There will be two options: refracta-installer (in live mode), an d-i |
| 21:35.56 | fsmithred | There's no refracta repository |
| 21:36.13 | fsmithred | yeah, I could see that - if someone wants to use a refracta CD to install devuan. |
| 21:36.24 | aitor | d-i will install the filesystem.squashfs |
| 21:36.33 | fsmithred | Oh!!! |
| 21:36.37 | fsmithred | I didnt' know that |
| 21:37.18 | aitor | I you are teetering :) |
| 21:37.35 | fsmithred | I'm pondering a problem. |
| 21:37.52 | fsmithred | to make a uefi-ready iso, I need to have grub-efi installed |
| 21:38.15 | fsmithred | and if someone boots it on non-uefi bios, they need to install grub-pc |
| 21:38.31 | aitor | i'm also interested in uefi, but i've never used it |
| 21:38.52 | fsmithred | I included grub-pc and grub-pc-bin debs in the last amd64 iso |
| 21:39.44 | fsmithred | and I was planning to have the installer find those files and install them into the target system (in chroot) |
| 21:40.06 | aitor | grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub-common and grub2-common are included in the installer, you don't need to add them |
| 21:40.29 | fsmithred | ok, are those udebs? |
| 21:40.36 | aitor | debs |
| 21:40.39 | fsmithred | ok |
| 21:40.57 | aitor | but there is a grub-install.udeb |
| 21:41.34 | fsmithred | well, I'm open to the idea, and I want to know more about it. |
| 21:41.48 | aitor | you have to install all the grub dependencies within the chroot |
| 21:41.59 | fsmithred | I have no philosophical problems with including the d-i, but personally, I hate it. |
| 21:42.35 | aitor | can you read in spanish? |
| 21:42.39 | fsmithred | no |
| 21:42.49 | fsmithred | well, maybe, with help from google |
| 21:43.07 | aitor | there is an interesting link |
| 21:43.55 | aitor | about how to make a persistant USB with debian-installer |
| 21:44.49 | aitor | in a very elegant way |
| 21:44.55 | fsmithred | can't just do it by including the debian-installer-launcher in the live-build? |
| 21:45.28 | aitor | debian-installer-launcher is not needed |
| 21:45.53 | aitor | i'll search the link |
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| 21:46.00 | fsmithred | thanks. |
| 21:46.21 | aitor | the translation will be very intuitive, i think |
| 21:46.36 | aitor | but you can ask me your doubts |
| 21:47.15 | aitor | i'm searching the link |
| 21:47.18 | fsmithred | there's a problem with the isolinux menu. I don't recall how to fix it, but I've run into this before. |
| 21:47.39 | fsmithred | if you TAB and try to edit, it reprints the line with each key press |
| 21:48.11 | aitor | her you are: |
| 21:48.12 | aitor | http://blog.desdelinux.net/como-instalar-linux-en-un-usb-en-forma-persistente/ |
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| 21:49.23 | aitor | the isolinux menu of what |
| 21:51.52 | fsmithred | gnuinos |
| 21:52.37 | fsmithred | try it. Press TAB at the boot menu, and try to edit the boot command. |
| 21:52.43 | aitor | which version? |
| 21:52.45 | fsmithred | you can do it, but it's annoying as hell. |
| 21:52.53 | fsmithred | the latest amd server |
| 21:53.12 | fsmithred | you gave me the link this morning |
| 21:53.56 | aitor | the recently uploaded image? |
| 21:53.57 | fsmithred | it's not booting for me in virtualbox |
| 21:54.55 | aitor | I uploaded it with a wrong name (amd64) and it's a i686 |
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| 21:55.40 | aitor | i changed the name from the server, once uploaded |
| 21:56.30 | aitor | but the iso of my computer works |
| 21:56.46 | aitor | did you check the md5sum |
| 21:57.12 | fsmithred | no |
| 21:57.29 | aitor | here you are: |
| 21:57.30 | aitor | 3ed732e04d52b9f0a34e507f5d632be3 |
| 21:57.36 | fsmithred | no |
| 21:58.01 | fsmithred | cat Gnuinos-2-Server-Beta20160819_amd64.iso.md5 |
| 21:58.01 | fsmithred | cbb2676893209f25e6a2b77883cf9542 |
| 21:58.14 | fsmithred | and the md5sum I get matched the md5 file |
| 21:58.22 | aitor | ok, i'll upload again :( |
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| 22:02.53 | golinux | fsmithred: You missed fritsd a bit earlier |
| 22:03.06 | fsmithred | aitor, you use a bunch of cfg files for isolinux? |
| 22:03.15 | fsmithred | stdmenu.cfg? |
| 22:03.44 | fsmithred | hi golinux, yeah I saw that. I was an hour late. |
| 22:03.49 | aitor | save |
| 22:03.53 | golinux | Too bad |
| 22:04.17 | golinux | He must be sound asleep by now. |
| 22:04.34 | fsmithred | aitor, is the link for the iso the same as it was this morning? |
| 22:05.15 | aitor | http://gnuinos.org/beta/linux-libre-4.6.2%20%28experimental%29/ |
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| 22:06.07 | aitor | i only renamed it in the server, works for me |
| 22:07.11 | aitor | i'll upload it again anyway |
| 22:07.17 | fsmithred | downloading now. 32 minutes. |
| 22:07.38 | fsmithred | upload what? You gave me the md5 for the i686 version? |
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| 22:08.59 | fsmithred | aha! now I know why it won't boot for me. |
| 22:09.19 | aitor | 3ed732e04d52b9f0a34e507f5d632be3 |
| 22:09.39 | aitor | why? |
| 22:10.01 | fsmithred | first name of the file said amd64 |
| 22:10.10 | fsmithred | then you renamed it to i686 |
| 22:10.20 | aitor | yes |
| 22:10.21 | fsmithred | well, it doesn't work in 32 bit, either |
| 22:10.47 | fsmithred | the md5sum is not the same as you're showing me here |
| 22:10.52 | aitor | it's a i686 |
| 22:10.55 | fsmithred | but it is the same as what's in the md5 file |
| 22:11.11 | fsmithred | cbb2676893209f25e6a2b77883cf9542 |
| 22:13.05 | fsmithred | mounting aufs on /root/ failed: no such device |
| 22:13.28 | fsmithred | then modprobe: module ehci-orion... blahblah |
| 22:14.30 | aitor | i know, i explained here, in the IRC, i've to rebuild the kernel including squashfs, aufs... |
| 22:15.00 | aitor | you asked me in the morning: what are yoo looking for? |
| 22:15.17 | aitor | i was looking the answer for that |
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| 22:15.32 | aitor | in dyne.org/lurker |
| 22:16.25 | fsmithred | you want to know how to add those to the kernel? |
| 22:16.32 | aitor | i was looking for the answers for that :) |
| 22:16.40 | fsmithred | did you find the answer? |
| 22:16.46 | aitor | yes |
| 22:16.49 | fsmithred | ok |
| 22:17.21 | fsmithred | I've done that before. Wanted to use a rt kernel in a live iso and had to add aufs. |
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| 22:17.56 | fsmithred | but I had a config from same version kernel that had what I wanted, so it was easy. |
| 22:18.58 | aitor | then, is it necessary to upload the iso again? |
| 22:19.26 | aitor | i'll do, i'll do |
| 22:19.28 | fsmithred | I guess. |
| 22:21.40 | aitor | i'll try to translate the above link |
| 22:21.54 | fsmithred | oh, the usb link? I read it. |
| 22:22.06 | aitor | yes |
| 22:22.18 | fsmithred | Unless I missed something, all they did was a regular install onto a usb stick. |
| 22:22.39 | fsmithred | it's no longer a live system |
| 22:23.25 | aitor | it's a usb with persistance, knoppix has also this virtue |
| 22:24.53 | aitor | you run for the usb stick using the ram, and you install the system in the usb |
| 22:25.32 | aitor | this is my idea for armhf |
| 22:25.33 | fsmithred | oh! |
| 22:25.42 | fsmithred | I didn't get that it's the same usb stick. |
| 22:25.50 | fsmithred | That's pretty tricky. |
| 22:26.06 | aitor | to run the system from the SDCard installing it in the same SDCard |
| 22:26.27 | fsmithred | But they wipe out the live system when they install, don't they? |
| 22:26.47 | aitor | would it be possible? |
| 22:27.09 | fsmithred | well, I've booted to ram and then pulled the stick out, and it's ok. |
| 22:27.25 | fsmithred | I assume it works, since they say they did it. |
| 22:27.42 | aitor | they wipe out, of course |
| 22:27.44 | fsmithred | But I wouldn't call it persistence, even though you can save your changes. |
| 22:27.54 | fsmithred | there's no more read-only partition. |
| 22:28.17 | aitor | Try it :) |
| 22:28.37 | fsmithred | the way persistence usually works is that you have a read-only partition, which has the same files as the live CD |
| 22:28.38 | aitor | I tried, but be very carefull with the selected hard disk |
| 22:29.10 | fsmithred | and you have another volume, either partition or loopback file, that holds the files you add or change. |
| 22:29.20 | aitor | i recommend you to disconnect the hard disk |
| 22:29.28 | fsmithred | lol, all three of them? |
| 22:29.53 | fsmithred | yeah, I've had hard disks change name on my when booting from usb. |
| 22:30.07 | aitor | all three of them? |
| 22:30.15 | fsmithred | three hard drives |
| 22:30.17 | aitor | what are you talking about? |
| 22:30.21 | aitor | sisters? |
| 22:30.24 | fsmithred | lol |
| 22:30.24 | aitor | gardens? |
| 22:31.47 | fsmithred | if you wipe the persistent volume on a live-usb, you'll still have the original read-only system on there. |
| 22:33.27 | aitor | no, the usb is formated |
| 22:33.27 | fsmithred | brb |
| 22:33.52 | fsmithred | yeah, if you wipe and install as in those instructions. |
| 22:34.09 | fsmithred | but it's not a live-usb. It's a usb with an installed system on it. |
| 22:34.33 | aitor | no, it's a live-usb |
| 22:34.37 | fsmithred | there's no more filesystem.squashfs |
| 22:34.43 | fsmithred | where's the live system? |
| 22:35.09 | aitor | you can do it with any live image of debian/devuan |
| 22:35.22 | fsmithred | using what installer? |
| 22:35.45 | aitor | my sister's installer |
| 22:36.17 | fsmithred | it looks like the debian installer |
| 22:36.58 | aitor | of course |
| 22:37.45 | fsmithred | after you do it that way, if you plug the usb stick into a running system and look at the filesystem on the first partition, do you see /boot and /live or do you see /bin /boot /etc /home /lib and so on? |
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| 22:38.11 | aitor | fsmithred 1 - 0 Aitor |
| 22:38.21 | fsmithred | lol |
| 22:38.22 | aitor | see you tomorrow, lol |
| 22:38.33 | aitor | :) |
| 22:38.38 | fsmithred | ok, is the new file uploaded yet? |
| 22:38.46 | fsmithred | and what do your sisters grow? |
| 22:40.00 | aitor | i have three sisters, thats true |
| 22:40.28 | aitor | one of them is a twin sister |
| 22:41.04 | aitor | i'm the minor, and my twin sister, of course |
| 22:42.22 | aitor | fsmithred: i'll upload the image again |
| 22:42.31 | aitor | see you tomorrow, ok ? |
| 22:43.58 | fsmithred | ok, g'night |
| 22:45.22 | aitor | :) |
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