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| 01:39.48 | Centurion_Dan | o/ |
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| 02:00.51 | minnesotags | Howdy Centurion_Dan |
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| 02:27.58 | Centurion_Dan | minnesotags: hi! |
| 02:28.15 | Centurion_Dan | did you get your BBB running devuan yet? |
| 02:31.33 | Centurion_Dan | I'm going to turn my hand to a bit of C++ today... |
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| 02:50.40 | minnesotags | Nope. No love yet. |
| 02:51.22 | minnesotags | parazyd wrote the image and sent a message. Will hear back tomorrow.... |
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| 05:16.36 | furrywolf | yay. that was fun. TWO failed tires. one spare. |
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| 10:09.17 | mender27 | Hello folks, how fair thee? ;) |
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| 14:07.04 | Lydia_K | Centurion_Dan: Not yet :( |
| 14:07.25 | Lydia_K | We interviewed a guy recently, old unix salt type, I had a fun conversation with him about old sparc hardware and stuff. |
| 14:07.55 | Lydia_K | But he wasn't excited about new technologies and he was of the personality type that would have clashed hard with research |
| 14:10.17 | lime_ | considers themself a grey beard |
| 14:10.28 | lime_ | runs OpenBSD |
| 14:11.07 | lime_ | "if it's not broken, don't fix it, please..." |
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| 14:26.52 | detha | lime_: Most people seem to agree with that. Also, if it's broken, fix it. And replacing the entire vehicle because the ashtray is full is not considered fixing. |
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| 14:38.51 | Lydia_K | detha: Then how will I smoke in that vehicle!? |
| 14:38.57 | Lydia_K | throws it out. |
| 14:40.17 | Lydia_K | lime_: I consider myself something of an old Unix salt, that wasn't the problem with the guy, the biggest issue was him dealing with our research people, who are often like bickering children. |
| 14:40.59 | Lydia_K | He was a good guy, I'd love to have a beer with him and talk old unix stuff and make nerdy jokes. |
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| 15:19.51 | minnesotags | Hey folks, do all architectures use the same sources.list locations and packages? For example, could my Jessie laptop have the same sources.list file as my (infamous) beaglebone black? |
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| 15:36.36 | premoboss | minnesotags, x86 and ARM has not EXACTLY the same repository, there are some differences. |
| 15:37.12 | premoboss | but yes, you can use the same source.list. but do apt-get update. |
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| 15:50.21 | minnesotags | I would be using apt-get dist-upgrade to move from a Beaglebone Black Jessie to Devuan Jessie. |
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| 16:10.29 | buZz | primalz: yeah, like -all- the binaries |
| 16:10.30 | buZz | ^_^ |
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| 17:25.53 | furrywolf | grrr. I need to pay my phone, but their website just gives "Dead-Lock maximum Iierations [50]". yes, that's an i. sigh... |
| 17:30.35 | furrywolf | and I can't call about tires for my van if I can't make my phone work. I can't make my phone work if their website is permanently nonfunctional. so I guess I'll shop for tires the old fashioned way, by driving around to tire shops. |
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| 17:36.06 | furrywolf | bbl |
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| 22:59.09 | DeeEff | hey #devuan, I'm having some troubles installing openrc, and the system pretty much wants me to use sysv-rc unless I uninstall the 4.6 kernel and also all my xorg/xserver packages |
| 22:59.15 | DeeEff | I'm on ceres, btw |
| 22:59.33 | DeeEff | but that said, I was running openrc fine until I did a full-upgrade today and the system rolled sysv-rc over |
| 22:59.42 | DeeEff | any advice? |
| 22:59.46 | parazyd | you should switch (back) to ascii |
| 23:01.04 | DeeEff | I've always been on ceres |
| 23:01.12 | DeeEff | or did something change recently? |
| 23:01.36 | parazyd | i wouldn't know |
| 23:03.32 | DeeEff | anyways, if I switch to ascii, won't this cause more problems? |
| 23:03.45 | DeeEff | or is ascii more up-to-date than ceres at the moment? |
| 23:03.53 | DeeEff | my understanding was ascii == testing, ceres == sid |
| 23:04.58 | parazyd | well now i can't tell you anything, but soon we're taking over openrc maintenance so there will be more progress and we'll know more about what's going on |
| 23:05.10 | parazyd | currently maybe you can raise an issue on gitlab or something |
| 23:05.47 | parazyd | also yes, you're right about the problems |
| 23:06.04 | fsmithred | parazyd, by taking over, do you mean maintaining for devuan, or we're becoming upstream? |
| 23:06.28 | parazyd | former |
| 23:06.36 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 23:06.38 | parazyd | DeeEff: you did dist-upgrade? |
| 23:07.00 | DeeEff | parazyd: I did `sudo apt full-upgrade` and it uninstalled openrc |
| 23:07.10 | parazyd | fsmithred: in what way do you think we would be upstream? |
| 23:07.13 | DeeEff | i did not dist-upgrade from ascii to ceres |
| 23:07.22 | parazyd | DeeEff: weird |
| 23:07.30 | fsmithred | while I have your attention, do you know about the beaglebone issue that minn has? |
| 23:07.38 | fsmithred | it was the way you said it. |
| 23:07.38 | DeeEff | yes, very. And now it won't let me re-install openrc |
| 23:07.40 | DeeEff | :S |
| 23:07.43 | parazyd | fsmithred: he emailed me, i will get on it tomorrow |
| 23:07.59 | fsmithred | I couldn't find uInitrd in the image |
| 23:08.07 | parazyd | DeeEff: what does it tell you? |
| 23:08.21 | fsmithred | but it's referenced in the txt file in first partition |
| 23:08.22 | DeeEff | nothing really. Says openrc conflicts with sysv-rc (I know this) |
| 23:08.45 | DeeEff | then asks to remove a ton of packages |
| 23:09.31 | parazyd | hmm i don't know if a update happened because it used to work relatively fine |
| 23:09.32 | DeeEff | I have to go real quick here, but perhaps I'll leave a paste in a few hours when I get back |
| 23:09.37 | parazyd | sure |
| 23:10.11 | parazyd | fsmithred: i'll investigate it tomorrow, and also try building a new image for herb |
| 23:10.29 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 23:10.30 | parazyd | s/herb/minnesotags |
| 23:11.32 | parazyd | about openrc, i still lack people who would maintain it along with me, plus we would have to correlate plans somehow as well |
| 23:11.46 | parazyd | unfortunately it's not a one-man-job |
| 23:12.22 | lime_ | so I want to set up a mirror with the free bandwidth/hdd space on my dedicated server in ovh |
| 23:13.17 | lime_ | before i set the vm up, am i rsync'ing the entire package tree or just installers? |
| 23:13.44 | parazyd | lime_: .iso-s and arm images only |
| 23:14.23 | lime_ | so 25gb should be more than enough? |
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| 23:14.38 | parazyd | i suppose so |
| 23:14.52 | parazyd | there aren't plans for archiving old releases on the mirrors |
| 23:15.13 | lime_ | mehahh yes good point |
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| 23:17.12 | lime_ | i have 500mbit up sustained burstable to 1gbit so |
| 23:39.20 | ksx4system | lime_: current mirror uses a bit under 11GB (no packages, just .iso installers and images for embedded boards) |
| 23:40.17 | ksx4system | check http://devuan.ksx4system.net as an example :) |
| 23:41.48 | lime_ | thanks =] |
| 23:42.15 | lime_ | just running te installer now |