| 00:05.38 | mns` | aitor: can use them with devuan jessie? |
| 00:05.43 | mns` | fast |
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| 00:28.48 | aitor | Yes, all the packages are built in jessie. Linux-base and kernel-wedge are scripts, the second one is only needed for building the *udeb* packages for devuan-installer |
| 00:35.04 | aitor | I'm referring to the backport of kernel-wedge |
| 00:36.17 | aitor | It's needed for d-i, but it doesn't affect to the installed system |
| 00:41.55 | stephanie | lime_, backports can be less tested, but mostly just they violate the "no new functionality" guarantee expected of a Debian/Devuan release. |
| 00:43.09 | stephanie | If you follow the recommended process of pinning to stable and manually pulling in backports as required for your needs, I'd still expect enterprise-level stability |
| 00:43.49 | stephanie | (assuming you use common sense about what you are pulling in :) |
| 00:45.06 | stephanie | If yuu are more haphazard about it, you should still have a stable system, but you risk pulling in undesirable functionality changes and potentially breaking some third party apps |
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| 00:48.19 | aitor | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.16 | aitor | I only changed the kernel :) |
| 00:49.33 | mns` | aitor: thx, i'll try it |
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| 00:50.45 | aitor | As RMS says, the kernel is only the 0.1% of the operating system... LOL |
| 00:50.52 | aitor | Don't hate me |
| 00:51.08 | mns` | :) |
| 00:51.35 | aitor | See you tomorrow :) |
| 00:51.48 | mns` | by! |
| 00:51.51 | mns` | bye |
| 00:51.55 | mns` | :| |
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| 01:03.20 | stephanie | I wonder how long before systemd removes exec() and requires everything to be dynamic libraries loaded into itself? |
| 01:04.45 | stephanie | I can just see it now, lennant saying desktop systems don't need processes anyway. |
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| 04:18.48 | rrq | window hide |
| 04:19.18 | stephanie | hands rrq a / |
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| 04:48.17 | furrywolf | sigh. the puppies have left. neighbor took them back to his ranch. :( |
| 04:48.20 | furrywolf | is sad |
| 04:48.34 | furrywolf | pets Lydia_K instead |
| 04:49.43 | furrywolf | I was very much enjoying getting covered in puppies every time I went outside. |
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| 05:48.24 | furrywolf | bbl, wolfy bedtime |
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| 06:09.51 | crhylove | Devuan is very "get out of your way", like Debian used to be. I love it. |
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| 08:52.10 | fbt | Comparatively |
| 08:52.53 | fbt | If you want a distro that actually doesn't restrict you in almost any way, there are Slackware, Arch, Gentoo, Alpine... :) |
| 08:53.20 | fbt | But then you also get more manual work. |
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| 11:00.15 | FNTM-U3 | I need to install vim with python 3 support. wim-nox have py2 |
| 11:00.22 | FNTM-U3 | and -py3 |
| 11:00.37 | FNTM-U3 | How could I go about this problem |
| 11:03.21 | muep | if you need to adjust the way the package is built, it is possible to download the sources of the deb package and edit and rebuild |
| 11:09.20 | muep | I knew vim is quite big, but still quite surprising to see that I get to download almost 500 MB of build deps for it |
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| 15:09.51 | golinux | fsmithred: You're being adventurous with vdev! |
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| 15:12.40 | golinux | Hi millpond |
| 15:34.56 | lime_ | the installer is currently failing |
| 15:35.10 | lime_ | package problems? |
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| 15:43.51 | Akuli | lime_, are you connected to the internet? |
| 15:44.37 | lime_ | I am, I wet back and reconfigured the package manage |
| 15:44.47 | lime_ | it works now |
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| 17:19.42 | fsmithred | golinux, yes, I'm trying vdev. We'll see how far I get with it. |
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| 17:21.30 | kebolio | hello, i'd just like to ask whether devuan is keeping the nonfree repo like debian's, cheers |
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| 17:23.19 | golinux | fsmithred: You are brave! Would love to see you get it working with hot plug. Did you see aitor's email with additional pkgs that need to be installed? |
| 17:23.20 | fsmithred | kebolio, yes, nonfree exists. |
| 17:23.30 | fsmithred | yes |
| 17:23.51 | fsmithred | will install them soon. Working on other stuff right now, and I can only run 2 VMs at a time. |
| 17:25.27 | golinux | Did I tell you the the first hdd I put into the enclosure had a bad superblock? |
| 17:25.40 | golinux | Other one is fine. |
| 17:26.10 | golinux | Now dealing with RMA and replacement. (sorry for the OT) |
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| 18:04.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | golinux: sucks |
| 18:06.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | golinux: I actually think recent HDDs are way less versatile on dealing whith bad blocks than their old age predecessors |
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| 18:07.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | which wouldn't be a big surprise, given the complete intelligence was built into the linux device driver and fg driver in the Good Old Times[TM] while now the HDD tries to handle bad blocks autonomously and thus often doesn't allow smarter measures being taken |
| 18:08.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/ fg / fs / |
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| 18:16.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | on (OT) topic: http://paste.opensuse.org/76331674 no idea how to fix this, so the drive would finally accept the bad blocks as such, and not try to use them any longer |
| 18:18.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2016-08-06T20:17:15.053388+02:00 localhost smartd[1078]: Device: /dev/sdb [SAT], 56 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors |
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