| 00:00.57 | fsmithred | DocScrutinizer05, what? KDE includes hidden first aid information? |
| 00:24.26 | LongHairedHacker | parazyd: fyi the omx stuff works now, but glimagesink is still broken and installing gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad from raspbian does not fix it |
| 00:24.39 | LongHairedHacker | so I'm stuck with using raspbian for now |
| 00:25.20 | LongHairedHacker | but I'll look into porting the gestreamer stuff from raspbian to devuan as soon as I can spare a few nights |
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| 01:36.06 | preta | hola sirix |
| 01:37.53 | preta | devuan acepta el escritorio mate? |
| 01:37.58 | sirix | si |
| 01:38.44 | preta | tu usas devuan? |
| 01:38.47 | sirix | preta: y puedes desactivar el avahu sin dramas |
| 01:38.51 | sirix | si |
| 01:39.09 | openfbtd | It is, however, pretty rude to talk in a language most people on a channel don't understand |
| 01:39.46 | preta | Sorry |
| 01:39.58 | sirix | preta: arriba en el topic de la sala, estan los enlaces |
| 01:40.08 | sirix | preta: no tienes que disculparte |
| 01:40.17 | sirix | preta: suerte |
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| 14:32.07 | terrylr | good morning |
| 14:33.16 | terrylr | I have downloaded devuan for raspberry pi and have booted a raspberry pi 3 with the beta release. What is the default account and passwd |
| 14:33.51 | golinux | I think it is root/toor |
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| 14:34.25 | golinux | That's just from hanging out on irc though not from experience |
| 14:34.27 | jaromil | yes it is |
| 14:34.35 | jaromil | next time will be also root/devuan |
| 14:34.39 | jaromil | one thing to fix |
| 14:34.43 | jaromil | thansk golinux for reminding |
| 14:35.03 | golinux | :) Just good timing |
| 14:36.02 | terrylr | to the devuan folk, thank you for the release without systemd |
| 14:37.42 | terrylr | that works thank you. |
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| 14:40.50 | jaromil | :^) |
| 14:42.09 | jaromil | openfbtd: we have an open language policy on all dyne operated channels, so please as long as its on-topic ignore episodes like this |
| 14:43.01 | jaromil | we may want to open separate language channels if true need arises, yet I believe exposure to more languages does good to everyone |
| 14:48.29 | ksx4system | jaromil: why not root/toor? this one seems to be pretty universal |
| 14:50.42 | jaromil | well, we never really had this conversation, just adopted root/devuan since the beginning so root/toor was considered a deviance (Adopted by parazyd while developing arm-sdk) |
| 14:51.02 | jaromil | but if this needs a debate or vote of sorts so be it, we are in time to change |
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| 14:52.06 | ksx4system | jaromil: at least it's not the "pi" user nonsense ;) |
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| 14:53.47 | jaromil | oh yea, that one, no way |
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| 16:13.17 | openfbtd | jaromil, oh. It's the default position of the overwhelming majority of other channels I'm on, so I assumed. |
| 16:13.32 | openfbtd | I still think it's extremely rude to do this personally tho. |
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| 16:21.18 | hellekin | DocScrutinizer51: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15661#note_12268314 |
| 16:21.25 | hellekin | DocScrutinizer51: (regarding the favicon) |
| 16:22.00 | hellekin | DocScrutinizer51: it's incredible how they come to the "easy" conclusion that matches their business logic, without considering alternate perspectives tha tcould convince them otherwise. |
| 16:22.24 | hellekin | jaromil: maybe we need to meet them before I get pissed ;) |
| 16:24.04 | TwistedFate | Hi everyone, sorry to bother, I was wondering if you maybe know where can I find hosts file in Devuan? I would like to edit it so it contains lists of ads sites to get them blocked. |
| 16:24.50 | ksx4system | TwistedFate: /etc/hosts |
| 16:25.51 | TwistedFate | ksx4system, Ah, thanks! |
| 16:25.56 | ksx4system | np :) |
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| 16:30.49 | jaromil | ah, the beauty of defaults |
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| 16:31.52 | jaromil | hellekin: re favicon, how about a redirect rule of sorts on the http server |
| 16:32.11 | fsmithred | does anyone ever put it somewhere else? |
| 16:32.12 | jaromil | and btw, I'm following the progress of https://gogs.io |
| 16:32.25 | fsmithred | been a long time since I've used a non-debian distro |
| 16:32.40 | jaromil | its so pleasantly similar to github |
| 16:33.16 | jaromil | fsmithred: one never knows... see what debian 7 did already to /etc/resolv.conf :/ |
| 16:33.34 | fsmithred | wheezy? |
| 16:33.50 | jaromil | i never liked that move, sorry |
| 16:33.59 | jaromil | not sure it was in 7 or 6 |
| 16:34.04 | fsmithred | what did they do to it? |
| 16:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | hellekin: (favicon) indeed |
| 16:34.10 | jaromil | its rewritten |
| 16:34.14 | fsmithred | oh |
| 16:34.25 | fsmithred | only if you have network manager |
| 16:34.31 | jaromil | oh ok |
| 16:34.36 | jaromil | of course |
| 16:34.44 | fsmithred | that issue was my birth at fdn |
| 16:35.01 | jaromil | fdn? |
| 16:35.06 | fsmithred | forums.debian.net |
| 16:35.11 | jaromil | ah! |
| 16:35.48 | fsmithred | I had network manager and static ip in interfaces, and we kept fighting with each other (nm and me) |
| 16:36.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaromil: yes, rewrite rule sounds like a nasty but simple fix, no? |
| 16:36.14 | fsmithred | that was the last time I installed nm |
| 16:36.30 | jaromil | DocScrutinizer05: its the best fix afaik |
| 16:37.25 | jaromil | on apache RewriteRule with [R] does it |
| 16:38.59 | hellekin | We would have to put an nginx in front of the gitlab nginx just for a favicon, seriously? |
| 16:39.38 | jaromil | no |
| 16:39.45 | jaromil | gitlab controls nginx? |
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| 16:41.09 | flrn | fsmithred: iirc you can tell nm in /etc(/default?)/NetworkManager to ignore an interface |
| 16:41.59 | hellekin | the omnibus package controls everything to the point you can't change a favicon. although I didn't try forcing it to them with a 5mn crontab as DocScrutinizer05 or parazyd suggested earlier |
| 16:42.12 | jaromil | i think one should willingly tell nm to take over an interface |
| 16:43.26 | flrn | i dont'care about nm anymore, as long i don't have to go umts |
| 16:44.31 | flrn | even that i once managed to work with wvdial |
| 16:44.36 | hellekin | in my experience nm is a pain is the ass without resolvcong |
| 16:44.36 | fsmithred | flrn, I use wicd on laptop, interfaces file on desktop |
| 16:44.41 | hellekin | resolvconf |
| 16:45.11 | flrn | fsmithred: on the laptop i have wicd, too |
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| 16:50.40 | KatolaZ2 | hi there |
| 16:50.53 | KatolaZ2 | testing the minimal live from an old laptop :) |
| 16:51.34 | flrn | is off for of bowl of salad |
| 16:51.51 | fsmithred | hi |
| 16:52.01 | KatolaZ2 | hi fsmithred |
| 16:52.36 | fsmithred | you boot from CD or USB? |
| 16:52.47 | KatolaZ2 | from USB |
| 16:53.05 | KatolaZ2 | don't have a CD on this one |
| 16:53.59 | fsmithred | I do... I guess I should burn a few and test |
| 16:54.13 | KatolaZ2 | a few guys have tested the CD version |
| 16:54.23 | KatolaZ2 | and reported that it works |
| 16:54.25 | fsmithred | cool |
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| 16:54.40 | KatolaZ2 | I am now working a bit on the accessibility side |
| 16:54.51 | KatolaZ2 | let's see what we can come up with |
| 16:55.17 | fsmithred | I've been working on the uefi - put up some experimental debs |
| 16:55.25 | Inocuous | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.36 | KatolaZ2 | fsmithred: does it work now? |
| 16:55.44 | fsmithred | so far, it boots in qemu and vbox |
| 16:55.52 | KatolaZ2 | great |
| 16:56.01 | KatolaZ2 | have you tried real hw as well? |
| 16:56.01 | fsmithred | I expect to have newer hardware soon, and then test for real |
| 16:56.06 | KatolaZ2 | cool |
| 16:56.19 | KatolaZ2 | I might have some new hw shortly as well |
| 16:56.25 | KatolaZ2 | within a couple of weeks |
| 16:56.30 | KatolaZ2 | and that should have uefi |
| 16:56.41 | fsmithred | nice |
| 16:57.05 | KatolaZ2 | well in principle it is still possible to boot from isolinux also on uefimachines, right? |
| 16:57.26 | fsmithred | well, maybe - there seem to be modules for it |
| 16:57.39 | fsmithred | but I don't know how to use them |
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| 16:58.17 | fsmithred | or are you talking about switching to legacy bios? |
| 16:59.08 | KatolaZ2 | oh that's always an option, indee |
| 16:59.10 | KatolaZ2 | ~indeed |
| 16:59.14 | infobot | Yes, indeed! katolaz2 is da man. |
| 16:59.33 | KatolaZ2 | ~infobot wtf? |
| 16:59.34 | infobot | wtf is probably what that's fine? |
| 17:00.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf wtf |
| 17:00.13 | Chanku | Anyone want to help me with compiling openspades? |
| 17:00.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~infobot |
| 17:00.24 | infobot | infobot is probably A program on the IRC that helps users, ask it to do something by putting a ~ and then say a command! |
| 17:00.53 | KatolaZ2 | Chanku: what is openspades? |
| 17:01.17 | Chanku | An Open Source client for Ace of Spades 0.75/0.76 |
| 17:02.13 | KatolaZ2 | Isee |
| 17:02.28 | Chanku | Yeah |
| 17:02.35 | Chanku | I somehow got it to compile earlier... |
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| 17:03.05 | Chanku | (I ended up trying to recompile to fix a compilation error...but now I can't get a working compile again |
| 17:03.06 | Chanku | ) |
| 17:03.32 | Chanku | And when I try to get it to recompile like I did earlier |
| 17:03.35 | Chanku | it only gives an error |
| 17:03.44 | Chanku | saying it's missing the header for SDL_Image |
| 17:03.48 | KatolaZ2 | have you tried to turn it off anf on again? |
| 17:03.53 | Chanku | Yes |
| 17:04.04 | Chanku | (Even though I'd assume that the header file for SDL_Image would be in the dev package) |
| 17:04.14 | ksx4system | I would write down configure/make/whatever invocation between results (this way you would know how to retry what gave you positive result) |
| 17:04.59 | KatolaZ2 | ok, gotta go here |
| 17:05.00 | KatolaZ2 | SYL |
| 17:05.04 | Chanku | See you |
| 17:05.12 | Chanku | It doesn't give that error |
| 17:07.02 | Chanku | If I hand compile and make install the SDL_Image thingy that is |
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| 17:28.10 | hellekin | DocScrutinizer05: how's the favicon now (might require a new private window) |
| 17:52.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops sorry missed the highlight |
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| 17:56.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway it seems nothing has changed in Konqueror and in FF even with new private window |
| 17:57.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd nevertheless not trust any of those browsers _not_ to cache the favicon for ages |
| 17:57.21 | hellekin | try C-S-r |
| 17:57.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | where? |
| 17:57.38 | hellekin | control shift tr |
| 17:57.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | and what does it do? |
| 17:57.54 | hellekin | force reload |
| 17:57.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | tr ? |
| 17:57.57 | hellekin | r |
| 17:58.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | in FF? |
| 17:59.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | no effect in FF |
| 18:01.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/05/plasma-desktopvq2262.png |
| 18:02.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | <title>Sign in · GitLab</title> |
| 18:02.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | <meta content='software freedom, your way' name='description'> |
| 18:02.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | <link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico" /> |
| 18:02.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | hellekin: when you replaced the iconfile, you also need to "recompile" the cache aiui |
| 18:03.01 | hellekin | ha that's why. This asset pre-compilation is breaking everything |
| 18:03.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you added a rewrite rule, it seems to not work |
| 18:04.00 | hellekin | I don't use a rewrite rule, I brute force the file to the filesystem. But then it needs pre-compilation, not sure this will work. Or I use the final asset fliename... |
| 18:04.43 | hellekin | paf |
| 18:04.56 | hellekin | ll *css |
| 18:05.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://axilleas.me/en/blog/2014/custom-gitlab-login-page/ >>Since we alter the production server, remember to recompile the assets<< aka sudo -u git RAILS_ENV=production bundle exec rake assets:precompile |
| 18:06.57 | hellekin | doesn't work with the omnibugs package. Something else. Won't stop me from going out for dinner though :) |
| 18:07.09 | hellekin | ttyl |
| 18:12.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaromil: hellekin: add a rewrite on webserver (apache/nginx) level, for /assets/favicon.*\.ico -> devuan-tiny.ico ? |
| 18:16.20 | golinux | No change in the favicon after a rest |
| 18:16.33 | golinux | *reset |
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| 18:21.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | golinux: of course, when the "sudo -u git RAILS_ENV=production bundle exec rake assets:precompile" `cache update´ has not been done |
| 18:22.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | then you *also* need to refresh nginx cache since I guess nginx won't notice you changing file content without changing file name or other page properties that nginx checks for to determine if a reload aka chache refresh is needed |
| 18:23.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | the nginx cache is both its advantage and biggest trouble |
| 18:25.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | it works fine for static content but frequently fails miserably for dynamically created (or 'secretly' changed) content |
| 18:27.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaromil: could you restart nginx (or otherwise make it refresh the cache) please? |
| 18:28.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless I'm completely mistaken regarding the way nginx works on devuan.org |
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| 18:45.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | hellekin: you seen http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26518439/custom-gitlab-login-page ? |
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| 18:53.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | hellekin: also http://axilleas.me/en/blog/2014/custom-gitlab-login-page/#what-about-omnibus |
| 18:57.00 | golinux | DocScrutinizer05: The favicon Changer didn't work for you? |
| 18:57.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? |
| 18:57.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | what helekin did (whatever it was) had no effect on what I see when opening git.do |
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| 19:15.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | golinux: hellekin: gwenview <(wget -O - git.devuan.org/$(wget git.devuan.org 2>/dev/null -O -|grep '<link rel="shortcut icon"'|sed 's#<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="\([^"]*\)" />#\1#')) |
| 19:24.32 | golinux | DocScrutinizer05: I'm sure we discussed this several days ago |
| 19:24.37 | golinux | https://sites.google.com/site/sonthakit/bookmarkfaviconchanger |
| 19:25.52 | golinux | You don;t need to hassle hellkin to do something that you can do yourseldf with an addon. |
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| 19:58.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | golinux: please understand that we're talking completely different issues |
| 19:59.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-06-05 Sun 18:21:18] <hellekin> DocScrutinizer51: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15661#note_12268314 |
| 19:59.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not hassling hellekin |
| 19:59.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 20:00.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | antagonizing comment |
| 20:00.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I don't even give a FSCK |
| 20:06.20 | golinux | Maybe I misunderstood that you wanted the devuan gitlab icon to be changed to the swoosh so you could differentiate various gitlab projects. |
| 20:06.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually https://sites.google.com/site/sonthakit/bookmarkfaviconchanger better meets the requirement to distinguish git.do from generic do pages, than it helps for sorting the problem hellekin posted to gitlab talk in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15661#note_12268314 |
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| 20:07.13 | golinux | It sounded like you did give an FSCK |
| 20:07.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're mistaken |
| 20:08.04 | golinux | I offered a solution for personal use. Of course, It will do nothing to address the problem at its source |
| 20:08.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I forwarded a user concern, which also occurred to me though I didn't care too much |
| 20:08.59 | golinux | If hellekin were to be able to change the favicon to the swoosh, I would change it to something else to differentiate it from the website. |
| 20:09.21 | golinux | Maybe make it a different color |
| 20:09.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | this shure can get done, if it can get done at all (which should be possible in at least 2 different ways: messing with gitlab and by rewrites in webserver) |
| 20:10.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I agree it should be done |
| 20:10.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | different color sounds nice |
| 20:11.48 | golinux | Would be good if favicons for git and the site were not identical. Maybe git could have the light swoosh on a dark bg. |
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| 20:14.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're the design queen, no? :-) |
| 20:14.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | your call |
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| 20:17.17 | golinux | I'll post an issue in a bit |
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| 20:26.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: that's (among others) why I love Konqueror still http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/05/plasma-desktopML2262.png |
| 20:29.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc this feature is as old as Konqueror |
| 20:30.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it makes a lot of sense since konqueror bookmarks can point to literally any generic URL, be it http:// or file:// or irc:// |
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| 20:55.18 | golinux | DocScrutinizer05: The git favicon has been changed! It is now the swoosh with a red heart in the middle!! |
| 20:55.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | wow! |
| 20:56.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | fires up another gwenview <(wget -O - git.devuan.org/$(wget git.devuan.org 2>/dev/null -O -|grep '<link rel="shortcut icon"'|sed 's#<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="([^"]*)" />#1#')) |
| 20:56.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ excellent!! |
| 20:56.39 | golinux | https://git.devuan.org/favicon.ico |
| 20:57.14 | golinux | Just to be clear . . . not my doing |
| 20:57.29 | golinux | I assume hellekin did it |
| 21:01.12 | KatolaZ | it's not a heart, rather the gitlab logo :) |
| 21:01.29 | KatolaZ | but looks undeniably as a heart |
| 21:01.31 | KatolaZ | cool! |
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| 21:14.16 | golinux | So it is! I thought it was the onelove heart |
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| 21:33.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas in FF and konqueror that favicon doesn't show up |
| 21:35.14 | golinux | Delete you cache |
| 21:35.33 | golinux | I'm seeing it in iceweasel. |
| 21:35.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | the css(?) still has view-source:https://git.devuan.org/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico as favicon, aiui |
| 21:36.07 | golinux | No In FF and the K thingy |
| 21:36.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | <link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico" /> |
| 21:37.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly a cache issue, not fixable with ctrl-shift-r however |
| 21:39.18 | golinux | Edit > Preferences > advanced> Network > Cached Web Content > clear now. |
| 21:39.42 | golinux | Or use cacheviewer |
| 21:39.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@saturn:~/tmp> wget git.devuan.org 2>/dev/null -O -|grep '<link rel="shortcut icon"'|sed 's#<link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="\([^"]*\)" />#\1#' still has the same URL and it shows the new icon |
| 21:41.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | "> Cached Web Content > clear now." no dice |
| 21:41.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | what the heck |
| 21:41.47 | golinux | DocScrutinizer05: You sure do know how to complicate a simple procedure |
| 21:42.00 | golinux | Refreah your browser after |
| 21:42.05 | golinux | Refresh |
| 21:42.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | you think I'm a retard? |
| 21:42.44 | golinux | Are you? ;) |
| 21:42.57 | golinux | It's always the obvious things that trip me up |
| 21:43.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | obviously not as much as you suggest I were. of course I already _did_ refresh |
| 21:43.42 | golinux | I cleared my cache earlier, went to eat something and the was switched out when I came back. |
| 21:43.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that shit called FF doesn't care |
| 21:44.14 | golinux | There could also be an IP cache somewhere that's not updated |
| 21:44.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | I already seen similar crap with a lot of edits on my own webpages |
| 21:45.04 | golinux | You're just lucky I guess. LOL! |
| 21:45.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I came up with the wget solution, to start with |
| 21:45.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm _almost_ sure wget has no nasty caches and it shows the correct new icon |
| 21:45.43 | golinux | Anyway, I have other things to do. Hope it sorts out for you |
| 21:46.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway https://git.devuan.org/favicon.ico is obviously irrelevant, I guess |
| 21:47.14 | KatolaZ | btw it does not work for me either |
| 21:47.27 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 21:48.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | which browser? |
| 21:49.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | while golinux prematurely closes a ticket |
| 21:49.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I hate all "webdesign" |
| 21:50.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | you simply never can be sure it works |
| 21:50.21 | KatolaZ | iceweasel |
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| 21:51.59 | golinux | I even tried to reset it with my favicon changer on iceweasel and it's still OK |
| 21:53.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | I killall firefox and it's still the wrong one |
| 21:54.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess the simlest test is to use another computer that never before opened a devuan.org page |
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| 21:55.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | dunno where those favicons are stored locally. Possibly in a dozen of different locations |
| 21:55.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | as long as the name doesn't change, all those locations possibly never get invalidated of flushed |
| 21:56.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | favicons are nasty |
| 21:56.58 | KatolaZ | golinux: how do one finds the favicon changer? |
| 21:57.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://sites.google.com/site/sonthakit/bookmarkfaviconchanger |
| 21:58.19 | golinux | Beat me to it! |
| 21:58.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 21:58.42 | golinux | should give up even trying to get there first |
| 21:58.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | we hat _lots_ of fun with favicons on neo900.org and I think it still doesn't work 100% |
| 21:59.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | had* |
| 21:59.41 | KatolaZ | so? |
| 21:59.46 | golinux | The favicon changer will put them in the bookmarks toolbar only. Not elsewhere |
| 21:59.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh |
| 22:00.13 | KatolaZ | should I change manually the favicon? |
| 22:00.21 | golinux | Yes you can |
| 22:00.27 | KatolaZ | but should I? |
| 22:00.32 | golinux | In the bookmarks toolbar |
| 22:01.07 | golinux | If it makes it easier to find things why not |
| 22:01.19 | KatolaZ | but what about the favicon I see in firefox? |
| 22:01.23 | golinux | I only have icons on my toolbar |
| 22:01.40 | golinux | What about it? |
| 22:01.56 | KatolaZ | I don't see the new one in git.devuan.org |
| 22:02.37 | golinux | You can change it to anything you want |
| 22:02.41 | golinux | https://git.devuan.org/favicon.ico |
| 22:03.01 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 22:03.16 | KatolaZ | but still I don't see it in the git.devuan.org tab... |
| 22:03.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, that doesn't help. When, as you just sttaed, it only changes the *bookmark* icon, not the tab icon |
| 22:03.43 | golinux | I don;t do tabs. tabkiller is alive and well here |
| 22:04.05 | KatolaZ | golinux: this does not mean that other users don't use tabs... |
| 22:04.08 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 22:04.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | then we're talking completely different purposes |
| 22:04.18 | golinux | So sorry can't help with that. |
| 22:04.37 | KatolaZ | ok np golinux |
| 22:04.41 | KatolaZ | thanks anyway |
| 22:04.51 | golinux | Tabs are not my problem. I know nothing about them except that I don't like them |
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| 22:05.16 | golinux | I bet there is an addon that will do that though. |
| 22:05.17 | KatolaZ | well golinux but it's not about your webpage :) |
| 22:05.25 | KatolaZ | I think no addon is needed |
| 22:05.35 | golinux | Huh? |
| 22:05.50 | KatolaZ | if I change the favicon on my webpage, that gets refreshed when I clead the cache in iceweasel |
| 22:06.24 | KatolaZ | anyway, np |
| 22:06.38 | KatolaZ | not an important issue |
| 22:08.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/06/plasma-desktopLW2262.png |
| 22:10.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | one is Devuan, two are gitlab.org, and I could have added a half a dozen other completely unrelated sites, all with same favicon |
| 22:10.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | even worse: "Devuan" doesn't even show up in the window title |
| 22:11.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | window title of https://git.devuan.org/ : >>Projects Dashboard Gitlab<< |
| 22:12.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | now I start to bother |
| 22:12.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | neither favicon nor window title gives away the real browser window context |
| 22:13.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet a >>Projects Dashboard Gitlab<< could be found on gitlab.org as well |
| 22:15.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, it's called >>Projects Explore Gitlab<< there |
| 22:15.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://gitlab.com/explore |
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| 22:21.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/06/plasma-desktopXj2262.png http://wstaw.org/m/2016/06/06/plasma-desktopwv2262.png |
| 22:22.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | if that's not puzzling shit outa everybody, I dunno what does |
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| 22:33.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | heck, I spoiled it :-/ should have used https://git.devuan.org/explore above ;-P |
| 22:34.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | guess what's its window title ;-) |
| 22:35.06 | fsmithred | DocScrutinizer05, what did you want to know from a web browser that's never been to devuan.org? I've got one up now. |
| 22:35.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | so BUG: https://gitlab.com/explore and https://git.devuan.org/explore are impossible to distinguish in task switcher and on browser tabs |
| 22:35.40 | fsmithred | favicon at git.devuan.org? |
| 22:35.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 22:35.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | ta |
| 22:35.53 | fsmithred | I still see the coyote head |
| 22:36.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | without swoosh in background? |
| 22:36.15 | fsmithred | on a browser in a live snapshot made in may of 2013, so I know it's never been there. |
| 22:36.23 | fsmithred | no swoosh |
| 22:36.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, so it's not fixed yet, at least for some browsers |
| 22:36.45 | fsmithred | you mean this one, right? https://git.devuan.org/favicon.ico |
| 22:36.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 22:37.02 | fsmithred | looks cool. wish I could see it in my bookmarks. |
| 22:37.05 | fsmithred | lol |
| 22:37.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehe, that's the whole purpose and goal |
| 22:38.58 | fsmithred | uh, don't know if this is helpful, but when I go to the favicon image page and save it as bookmark, there's no favicon in the bookmarks menu |
| 22:39.25 | fsmithred | just a blank square |
| 22:40.13 | fsmithred | this is iceweasel, wow, 10.0.12 |
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| 22:45.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan.org/issues/1 |
| 22:47.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | heck, I almost closed the https://git.devuan.org/explore window since I thought it was gitlab.com |
| 22:49.03 | fsmithred | DocScrutinizer05, I got a 404 on the issues page, and I got the swoosh favicon in the tab |
| 22:49.15 | fsmithred | that's in my current browser, not the old live |
| 22:49.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2016-06-05 Sun 23:01:56] <wpwrak> (git favicon) on git.devuan.org ? still looks the same here |
| 22:49.36 | fsmithred | https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan.org/issues/1 |
| 22:49.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | 404? nasty |
| 22:50.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | private project? |
| 22:50.21 | fsmithred | I guess |
| 22:50.33 | fsmithred | but wouldn't that be a different error? |
| 22:50.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least read permissions should be 'world', no? |
| 22:50.58 | fsmithred | anyway, the new favicon shows up in the tab, next to "The page you're looking for could not be found." |
| 22:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes, different error |
| 22:51.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | what is the generic project to report bugs related to www.devuan.org the site? |
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| 22:52.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh! prolly https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-www/issues |
| 22:56.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh kay: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-www/issues/134 |
| 22:56.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan.org/ might be |
| 22:57.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsmithred: can you read https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-www/issues/134 ? |
| 22:57.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | if yes, please add your findings |
| 23:00.25 | fsmithred | yes |
| 23:02.41 | fsmithred | do I click on Add or Comment? |
| 23:02.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | comment |
| 23:03.11 | fsmithred | ok |
| 23:03.40 | fsmithred | I can't. |
| 23:03.57 | fsmithred | I think I have limited powers there. |
| 23:06.13 | ksx4system | is there any open source ZX Spectrum emulator capable of running straight from audio files (or even better - line input)? |
| 23:06.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | dammit, the editor mangled the commandline |
| 23:11.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | four spaces, meh! at least it works |
| 23:12.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsmithred: are you logged in? |
| 23:13.43 | fsmithred | yes |
| 23:13.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Line-breaks, or softreturns, are rendered if you end a line with two or more spaces<< |
| 23:14.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | headdesks |
| 23:14.25 | fsmithred | OH! |
| 23:14.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, so I'll add a comment or even a ticket to that as well? |
| 23:14.31 | fsmithred | no |
| 23:14.47 | fsmithred | I have to type something in the box first. |
| 23:14.52 | fsmithred | I think |
| 23:14.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | yes! :-D |
| 23:15.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe |
| 23:15.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | funny enough I already wondered what will happen when you click "comment" without writing any text |
| 23:15.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I gather the error message isn't useful, eh? ;-) |
| 23:16.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, simply no error msg at all |
| 23:16.58 | fsmithred | no response when I first hit that button |
| 23:17.01 | fsmithred | still typing... |
| 23:17.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, just tested it, it's no button until you wrote text |
| 23:19.10 | fsmithred | should I mention the 404 error? |
| 23:19.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, good question. |
| 23:19.32 | fsmithred | in parens |
| 23:20.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe doesn't hurt to let those who are in charge know that there's a project of unknown purpose and not visible to general public |
| 23:20.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | got mail :-) |
| 23:22.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | fsmithred: thanks |
| 23:23.02 | fsmithred | yw |
| 23:23.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | weird you see the new icon on a 404 page |
| 23:24.41 | fsmithred | yeah, but it happened while I was searching for Neil Gaiman, so maybe not so weird. |
| 23:25.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | could you again browse to that 404 page, view page source, search for "<link rel="shortcut icon"" |
| 23:25.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | <link rel="shortcut icon" |
| 23:26.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | see if it's thjere at all (I guess not) |
| 23:26.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | or what's the href= value if there is any |
| 23:27.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | also search for "fav" on whole sourcecode |
| 23:28.11 | fsmithred | where the hell did 'view source' go? |
| 23:28.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | context menu? |
| 23:28.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | RMB? |
| 23:28.38 | fsmithred | got it |
| 23:30.06 | fsmithred | no href, just img src |
| 23:30.39 | fsmithred | no link rel (or link at all) |
| 23:31.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | <link rel="shortcut icon" type="image/x-icon" href="/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico"> is what I get on any arbitrary page |
| 23:31.20 | fsmithred | you want the source in pm? It's not terribly long. |
| 23:31.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | sore, go ahead, joerg at openmoko org |
| 23:31.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure* |
| 23:31.48 | fsmithred | 55 lines |
| 23:32.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | in 2 minutes it will finish ;-) |
| 23:33.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | or not, if there are more lines with >300 chars |
| 23:34.04 | fsmithred | I'll email |
| 23:35.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | nah, got it |
| 23:35.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | ta |
| 23:35.57 | fsmithred | brb |
| 23:36.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | I see there's no favison of any sort defined in this page |
| 23:36.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | favicon* |
| 23:37.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | the embedded img sourcecode is for the huge foxhead on page content, I guess. So your browser prolly downloaded https://git.devuan.org/favicon.ico |
| 23:38.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | while mine uses any cached version anywhere |
| 23:39.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | way more puzzling though is why you get the old icon on a page that's not 404 |
| 23:39.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | even in a browser that's sopposedly never been used before to browse any d.o. favicon |
| 23:40.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmpf, I get old icon on https://git.devuan.org/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico |
| 23:41.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | (the href= of above) |
| 23:45.35 | fsmithred | me too |
| 23:48.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | LOL, I bet I know now |
| 23:48.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | forced forward http:// -> https:// |
| 23:48.38 | *** join/#devuan Drugo (~andrea@host100-198-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:48.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | I can't get FF to display http://git.devuan.org/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico |
| 23:49.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | while wget doesn't care about that shite |
| 23:49.23 | fsmithred | same here - all https |
| 23:49.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | I bet a beer that's it |
| 23:49.38 | fsmithred | is there a ff extension fo http only? |
| 23:49.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://git.devuan.org/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico ok, https://git.devuan.org/assets/favicon-075eba76312e8421991a0c1f89a89ee81678bcde72319dd3e8047e2a47cd3a42.ico old one |
| 23:50.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly somebody actually implemented a rewrite and forgot https |
| 23:54.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | I *think* I recall the private mode is supposed to stop FF from doing the forced https on its own, won't however help for server side rewrites |
| 23:57.48 | fsmithred | I still get redirected to https in private browsing |
