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| 01:01.56 | figlfdev | hellekin: this might help with your ascii/swooshes (especially jp2a which is in the devuan repos) http://www.voat.co/v/devuan/comments/1081494 |
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| 02:49.42 | ksx4system | will CDE desktop be available for Devuan? it's not on Debian upstream afaik |
| 02:50.05 | openfbtd | If someone packages it? |
| 02:50.10 | openfbtd | And maintains |
| 02:50.23 | openfbtd | I'm not a devuan dev though, that's a guess |
| 02:50.51 | openfbtd | I mean it will probably work as it does with any other distro |
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| 03:06.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | OT: what really sucks is the missing screws to mount them, when you buy a couple of HDD |
| 03:07.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | you'd think they could afford to throw a 4 friggin screws into the bag with the HDD |
| 03:08.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | could it really cost more than 1ct? |
| 03:11.40 | ksx4system | DocScrutinizer05: I know what you feel... |
| 03:12.02 | ksx4system | the same with 2,5" SSD vendors assuming that you have a laptop |
| 03:12.23 | ksx4system | +5eur for a converter worth fucking 10ct |
| 03:12.36 | ksx4system | 2,5 => 3,5" I mean |
| 03:13.25 | openfbtd | DocScrutinizer05, interestingly, my new SSD came with screws. |
| 03:13.38 | openfbtd | Actually 8 of them |
| 03:14.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | Seagate is stingy |
| 03:16.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | now I can wait until the shops open, to continue mounting that raid into my PC |
| 03:16.50 | ksx4system | Failgate? meh |
| 03:16.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | worse: I can drive to same shop again, to **buy 8 screws** |
| 03:17.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ksx4system: indeed |
| 03:17.29 | ksx4system | (not that HGST provides mounting screws, still better drives) |
| 03:17.45 | openfbtd | DocScrutinizer05, I would send you my spare screws, but they will arrive never |
| 03:17.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, but my shop didn't offer those |
| 03:18.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | also I didn't know of HGST and their quality advantage |
| 03:21.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly you could argue that I should have known. Buying OEM enterprise drives you shouldn't expect them to ship screws with those |
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| 03:22.38 | ksx4system | DocScrutinizer05: enjoy https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-q1-2016/ |
| 03:22.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((failgate)) well they also have 5 years warranty, so if I'm lucky I get a second pair for free |
| 03:23.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ksx4system: I guess I already bookmarked that |
| 03:23.08 | ksx4system | totally worth tracking if you're on the hunt for new drives frequently :) |
| 03:24.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, the STx000DM are prolly the cheap desktop variant |
| 03:25.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got the Constellation ES.3 ST2000NM0033 2TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache |
| 03:25.32 | ksx4system | long story short: server grade HGST 4 lyfe |
| 03:26.06 | ksx4system | :P |
| 03:26.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: if a) I had known that beforehand, and b) my shop (or one shop around here) offers them |
| 03:27.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I'm not happy when my HDD gets delivered by UPS or DHL |
| 03:27.18 | ksx4system | so do I |
| 03:27.59 | ksx4system | but where I live it's the only choice if you don't want to wait for weeks until shop fetches them or take a 2,5h train ride to the capital |
| 03:28.19 | ksx4system | (of course if you only buy server grade HDDs) |
| 03:28.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.kkcomputer.de/Default.aspx?tabid=34&txtSearch=HGST&List=0&SortField=0&Pics=1 :-/ |
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| 03:35.30 | ksx4system | meh |
| 03:36.25 | ksx4system | http://proline.pl/?qp=hgst&gk= divide prices by 4,5 to get EUR |
| 03:37.17 | ksx4system | http://www.komputronik.pl/search/pl/run/showProducts/1/hide_boxes/1/searchString/aGdzdCUyMHVsdHJhc3Rhcg==/category/1/?query=hgst%2520ultrastar more |
| 03:38.39 | ksx4system | so everything's available in "offline" shops but one has to wait... |
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| 14:44.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | hey, experts, an OT question: when I suspend to RAM and then attach a sATA drive to a previously unused non-hotplug-tagged port, that drive won't show up after powering up and resuming the system. Is there a way to make the kernel rescan the sATA ports and notice there's a drive to expose as /dev/sdd ? |
| 14:45.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/RAM/disk/ |
| 14:45.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | not that it matters much |
| 14:46.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | I hate reboots |
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| 15:08.42 | flrn | DocScrutinizer05: just websearched for "udev rescan devices" which brought up this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/39371 |
| 15:08.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | ta |
| 15:09.05 | flrn | i guess other device managers come with similar commands |
| 15:09.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if udev is the problem |
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| 15:09.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, trying can't hurt, eh? |
| 15:10.19 | flrn | i guess... |
| 15:10.20 | detha | /sys/bus/*/rescan ? |
| 15:10.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I tried echo "0 - 0" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host3/scan |
| 15:11.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | with mixed results, mostly zilch effect |
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| 15:12.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I know the BIOS says there's a drive with correct Label on sATA4 |
| 15:12.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | but the kernel doesn't expose any /dev/sdd |
| 15:16.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/hardware/general-hardware/17815-proper-way-to-plug-unplug-an-esata-hard-disk |
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| 15:20.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | for host5 I get: |
| 15:20.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2016-06-04T17:19:34.272931+02:00 localhost kernel: [1718714.799747] ata6: hard resetting link |
| 15:20.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2016-06-04T17:19:34.577940+02:00 localhost kernel: [1718715.104083] ata6: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) |
| 15:20.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | 2016-06-04T17:19:34.577966+02:00 localhost kernel: [1718715.104099] ata6: EH complete |
| 15:24.15 | flrn | DocScrutinizer05: i guess it's about doing it the hard way, but did you pull and re-plug the device? |
| 15:25.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, but I cold-restarted the device into resume-from-HDD |
| 15:26.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe a hot replug could actually help, though I doubt since I've seen exactly same problem on eSATA and there a replug didn't help |
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| 15:27.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | hotplug works when the sATA bus was in use on last boot, otherwise nobody creates a /dev/sd* for it |
| 15:29.18 | flrn | for usb replugging works, just tried, udev-foo didn't |
| 15:33.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, but this is sATA. And now I noticed during hotplug that it's literally hot. Need to do another still more annoying construction session to move those drives into a place with more fresh air |
| 15:34.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess I'll finally do the reboot mess then |
| 15:36.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/48800908 is what I got from hotplugging the supposedly (and obviously) working one |
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| 15:40.04 | golinux | thinks this is becoming the DocScrutinizer05 channel |
| 15:42.27 | furrywolf | will endeavour to talk about strapons or something more often, to change the subject from DocScrutinizer |
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| 15:53.49 | flrn | looking at the backlog, has the impression that it's more like singing alone in the dark |
| 16:01.09 | flrn | at least the rain has stopped :) |
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| 16:02.03 | figlfdev | o/ |
| 16:02.46 | figlfdev | hopes that DocScrutinizer05 and golinux in will force furrywolf to implement her "evil plan" |
| 16:04.43 | figlfdev | ive been looking for a subtle way to help hellekin and/or katolaz with their ascii art, but then i realized one of them was more or less requesting it |
| 16:05.10 | figlfdev | hows that going? |
| 16:08.31 | KatolaZ | figlfdev: ? |
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| 16:10.00 | figlfdev | the current swoosh (as most recently reviewed by golinux) is 32x15, so i will try to do a swoosh from the press kit image that fits those sizes |
| 16:10.28 | figlfdev | KatolaZ: have you tried jp2a ? its in the repos (and only works with jpgs i guess. not sure why) |
| 16:10.45 | KatolaZ | figlfdev: are you Dan Purgert? |
| 16:11.23 | figlfdev | not at all, im figlfdev: https://voat.co/v/devuan/comments/1081494 |
| 16:11.26 | KatolaZ | figlfdev: my experiment was done by hand |
| 16:11.55 | figlfdev | i respect that. although if theres a press kit image, im personally inclined to start with that (cleaing up by hand is a very good idea) |
| 16:12.05 | KatolaZ | figlfdev: cool! |
| 16:12.18 | KatolaZ | figlfdev: I actually started with the press kit |
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| 16:12.25 | figlfdev | im also happy to bow to your preferences, but im not doing it from scratch (i would simply bow out respectfully) |
| 16:12.51 | figlfdev | do you want me to have a go at it? |
| 16:12.56 | KatolaZ | and I know that mine was awful :) |
| 16:13.02 | KatolaZ | sure! |
| 16:13.05 | KatolaZ | please do |
| 16:13.26 | KatolaZ | I just wanted to spur the curiosity of those who are more versed in arts than me :) |
| 16:13.27 | figlfdev | after i do the swoosh for the motd i will have a go at the broader (wider) devuan logo |
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| 16:13.45 | figlfdev | well im an ascii-art program author, but i actually practice not that often. |
| 16:14.12 | KatolaZ | I would not go larger than 10 rows for the motd version |
| 16:14.24 | figlfdev | its currently 15-- are you sure? |
| 16:14.24 | KatolaZ | but this is just personal preference |
| 16:14.36 | KatolaZ | I think mine is 12 |
| 16:14.53 | figlfdev | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160602.143944.c47fd837.en.html <- 32x15 |
| 16:15.04 | KatolaZ | mainly due to the swoosh |
| 16:15.17 | figlfdev | im referring exclusively to lines that are in the swoosh |
| 16:15.24 | KatolaZ | that's hellekin's |
| 16:15.43 | figlfdev | ahh. well, if you think i should do 12 now is the time to insist. but 15 will probably look nicer |
| 16:15.46 | figlfdev | why 12? |
| 16:16.01 | KatolaZ | mine is this one |
| 16:16.04 | KatolaZ | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160602.075840.08a70d9d.en.html |
| 16:16.26 | figlfdev | im doing that one next |
| 16:16.28 | KatolaZ | no please experiment as much as you can |
| 16:16.31 | figlfdev | two designs, two cleanups |
| 16:16.43 | figlfdev | my plan for yours is to just change the swoosh |
| 16:16.47 | figlfdev | and merge them |
| 16:17.07 | KatolaZ | go on, please |
| 16:17.39 | KatolaZ | it would be fantastic to have a 5-rows version of rsignatures, for instance |
| 16:17.48 | figlfdev | 5 rows? |
| 16:17.49 | KatolaZ | like the Debian swirl |
| 16:17.53 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 16:18.10 | figlfdev | i know the one you mean |
| 16:18.49 | figlfdev | the swoosh loses so much detail at that res (vs a spiral) that only a TRUE ascii artist (meaning someone better than i am) could pull that off |
| 16:19.17 | KatolaZ | :D |
| 16:19.20 | figlfdev | even the debian logo loses a lot at that res, but a spiral is more obvious |
| 16:19.37 | KatolaZ | I remember a nice one seen in signatures |
| 16:19.55 | KatolaZ | but obviously at that res you need fantasy to fill the gaps :) |
| 16:19.59 | figlfdev | my first scripting language was for ascii animations |
| 16:20.12 | KatolaZ | cool! |
| 16:20.13 | figlfdev | well the problem is that its a very simple shape, and it gets wider at the bottom |
| 16:20.21 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 16:20.42 | figlfdev | i think someone could pull that off, but its destined to look bad otherwise (higher the res, easier it is to do anything) |
| 16:20.59 | figlfdev | its a great logo though, generally speaking |
| 16:21.16 | figlfdev | did i show you how nice it looks on an icewm button? |
| 16:23.03 | KatolaZ | but you know this does the trick already: |
| 16:24.02 | KatolaZ | wait |
| 16:24.10 | figlfdev | :) |
| 16:25.12 | KatolaZ | ops |
| 16:25.19 | KatolaZ | my paste closes the connection :D |
| 16:26.01 | KatolaZ | and I don't know why :D |
| 16:26.12 | KatolaZ | anyway |
| 16:26.19 | figlfdev | feel free to paste it on https://voat.co/v/devuan - i dont think you need more than a user and pw |
| 16:27.00 | figlfdev | (i still dont know why aitor couldnt register. maybe the captcha got him) |
| 16:27.18 | figlfdev | its the google "choose images" captcha |
| 16:27.22 | figlfdev | i hate it too |
| 16:28.04 | KatolaZ | http://katolaz.homeunix.net/images/logo4.txt |
| 16:28.46 | KatolaZ | again, it's just a starting point |
| 16:28.51 | KatolaZ | but it's 5 wors |
| 16:28.55 | KatolaZ | ~row |
| 16:28.57 | KatolaZ | ~rows |
| 16:29.52 | KatolaZ | better if you add a "." right after the "+" |
| 16:31.28 | KatolaZ | I think I'll put it in my .signature :D |
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| 16:33.11 | figlfdev | sorry, connection crapped out |
| 16:33.33 | figlfdev | logo4 is great-- id chop off the single rightmost @ and call it a day |
| 16:33.58 | figlfdev | it throws off the curve. but one character out of all of them-- not bad! |
| 16:35.41 | KatolaZ | that's handmade, BTW |
| 16:35.53 | KatolaZ | using the same style of the 12-rows |
| 16:36.26 | KatolaZ | :) |
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| 16:38.26 | figlfdev | its very nice. im about done with hellekins screen-- not much difference, but we will see what golinux says (id value her input) |
| 16:38.50 | figlfdev | it has to be known (by anyone that doesnt realize this) that the aspect of the font will invariably change the aspect of the logo |
| 16:39.14 | figlfdev | so hopefully she loads it in the "standard" devuan font setup (probably.) but even then, only so much can be done about it. |
| 16:43.17 | figlfdev | so here is my version of hellekins swoosh for motd (with motd text) https://voat.co/v/devuan/comments/1081494/5402044 |
| 16:43.37 | figlfdev | unfortunately it is at the bottom (thats the permalink) and you still have to scroll through the original post. |
| 16:50.46 | golinux | figlfdev: I saw the link you posted yesterday but you left before I could respond |
| 16:50.50 | Inocuous | KatolaZ is it nmap that I would use to do a port scan ? |
| 16:51.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok folks, don't reset your sATA interface when you have systemd! Systemd is absolutely not happy when dbus blows chunks since some friggin dbus socket on the filesystem vanished. When systemd isn't happy, it won't speak to anybody anymore |
| 16:51.03 | KatolaZ | Inocuous: yes |
| 16:51.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ---> hard shutdown |
| 16:52.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I.E pull the mains plug |
| 16:52.12 | KatolaZ | DocScrutinizer05: that's feature, not bug! :) |
| 16:52.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-P |
| 16:52.22 | Inocuous | I'm installing it now. I have another laptop now with devuan, I want test out my ufw |
| 16:52.34 | golinux | figlfdev: The proportions of the swoosh are much improved! |
| 16:53.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | I love the swoosh |
| 16:54.59 | KatolaZ | Inocuous: be careful with nmap |
| 16:55.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | hairdryer, I got a hairdryer, which has a "no heater" mode |
| 16:56.41 | golinux | The head is pretty good (though the last row doesn't quite work for me), IMO the tail 'disappears' too quickly but maybe that a rendering issue with my browser. |
| 16:56.58 | Inocuous | quite a lot of options. |
| 16:57.09 | figlfdev | golinux: cheers. feel free to clean it up, its hellekins not mine (im just giving it a tweak) |
| 16:57.19 | figlfdev | KatolaZ: done with yours too, url in a moment |
| 16:57.25 | KatolaZ | ok figlfdev :) |
| 16:57.38 | KatolaZ | I have updated the one I posted before |
| 16:57.43 | KatolaZ | for signatures |
| 16:57.54 | KatolaZ | http://katolaz.homeunix.net/images/logo4.txt |
| 16:57.58 | golinux | figlfdev: I have no clue about ascii art and no time to acquaint myself atm |
| 16:58.28 | furrywolf | did some ascii art in the '90s... |
| 16:58.30 | figlfdev | golinux: your visual judgment will suffice (i realize i just hinted at more, though that was entirely at your option) |
| 16:58.30 | KatolaZ | made just a few tweaks |
| 16:58.44 | figlfdev | furrywolf never ceases to impress me |
| 16:58.57 | KatolaZ | golinux: do we have a plase for "contributed" stuff |
| 16:58.59 | KatolaZ | ? |
| 16:59.03 | KatolaZ | like those ascii-arts |
| 16:59.03 | furrywolf | didn't do a very good job, not being an artist |
| 16:59.07 | figlfdev | golinux: you may not like this one as much as the other, but its ready for someone to do finishing touches |
| 16:59.08 | KatolaZ | nothing "official" |
| 16:59.10 | figlfdev | isnt an artist either |
| 16:59.26 | figlfdev | KatolaZ s logo: https://voat.co/v/devuan/comments/1081494/5402177 |
| 16:59.32 | figlfdev | (again, at the bottom) |
| 17:00.09 | KatolaZ | cool |
| 17:00.18 | furrywolf | I personally find the swoosh unattractive. |
| 17:00.21 | KatolaZ | I would probably have it more "solid" |
| 17:00.31 | KatolaZ | and tweak a bot the swoosh |
| 17:00.34 | KatolaZ | e.g. the head |
| 17:00.55 | figlfdev | you can do anything you like with it-- id tweak it further but i dont think i will personally be able to improve it further (or id try) |
| 17:01.08 | figlfdev | but whatever you do with it is obviously alright :) |
| 17:01.54 | furrywolf | how about a non-abstract, attractive logo? :P |
| 17:02.48 | figlfdev | doesnt usually design logos, just manipulates ascii |
| 17:03.15 | figlfdev | and sometimes graphics (devuan logo in icewm: http://i.imgur.com/1LaV8lY.png -- top left) |
| 17:03.31 | figlfdev | i dont do themes either. thats golinuxs dept |
| 17:03.46 | furrywolf | YAY! I'm not the only person who still uses icewm! |
| 17:03.55 | figlfdev | oh no, there are several of us here... |
| 17:04.07 | figlfdev | im surprised anyone cares about jwm (its pretty good, i used to rely on it-- but still) |
| 17:04.24 | figlfdev | but you, me, steve litt, thats 3 (i think there are more) |
| 17:04.35 | furrywolf | why not an ascii art version of that logo, rather than the ugly swoosh? |
| 17:05.17 | figlfdev | i dont follow |
| 17:05.42 | figlfdev | is just cleaning up existing proposals (and even that is a matter of opinion) |
| 17:06.09 | furrywolf | I missed part of the conversation, but it looked like people were talking about an ascii art swoosh for the motd. why not make an ascii version of the "Devuan" text logo, like in the button on your icewm screenshot, instead of the abstract, ugly swoosh? |
| 17:07.09 | figlfdev | well, KatolaZ did the devuan text logo, which i just posted my version of |
| 17:07.18 | figlfdev | and hellekin did the swoosh for motd, which i posted first. |
| 17:07.31 | figlfdev | in short, there are two options so far, and nothing official |
| 17:07.38 | figlfdev | but one is the one i think youre suggesting. |
| 17:08.14 | furrywolf | I'm thinking the word "devuan" in the same font as the graphical logo, but rendered as ascii art. |
| 17:08.21 | figlfdev | i can show you both versions (theyre on the same page) |
| 17:08.45 | figlfdev | look for the two comments on the bottom, one version-per-comment https://voat.co/v/devuan/comments/1081494 |
| 17:08.50 | KatolaZ | furrywolf: there is already a non-ascii art of the logo :) |
| 17:10.07 | furrywolf | meh. I'll think about trying to remember my 20+-years-rusty ascii art skills later today. now it's time for yard sales. :) |
| 17:10.20 | KatolaZ | furrywolf: :) |
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| 17:10.22 | KatolaZ | go on! |
| 17:10.42 | KatolaZ | I would love to have ascii-arts of all sizes and shapes |
| 17:10.49 | KatolaZ | swooshes everywhere |
| 17:10.51 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 17:11.01 | furrywolf | doesn't like the swoosh. no swooshes. |
| 17:11.25 | figlfdev | you know its the official logo, right? |
| 17:11.52 | figlfdev | has less horse in this race than furrywolf -- is just posting them in case someone needs/wants them |
| 17:11.59 | KatolaZ | furrywolf: ops! then there is a problem... :D |
| 17:12.15 | golinux | Artwork can be posted to git here: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art |
| 17:12.24 | furrywolf | does a tail swoosh while heading out for yard sales |
| 17:12.38 | golinux | needs to read the scrollback |
| 17:12.39 | figlfdev | good sale-ing |
| 17:13.09 | figlfdev | golinux: i took the input from the mailing list, i linked to the output on irc (one of the original authors is informed of it) |
| 17:13.26 | figlfdev | is done with unless there are further requests that dont require a new account |
| 17:15.20 | golinux | Here's the official logo. You can get the swoosh proportions from the swoosh there: https://beta.devuan.org/ui/img/devuan-logo-with-registered-trademark-sign.svg |
| 17:16.00 | KatolaZ | golinux: why don't we have a "devuanT-art" section |
| 17:16.06 | KatolaZ | for contributed stuff? :) |
| 17:16.20 | figlfdev | i actually made that swoosh from the official logo in the press kit, and merged it with KatolaZs |
| 17:16.25 | KatolaZ | with obvious pun |
| 17:16.43 | figlfdev | but ORIGINALLY i made a logo directly from the thing youre linking to. it didnt look as good |
| 17:17.17 | LongHairedHacker | Quick question: What's the default login for the jessi beta rasbpi2 image ? |
| 17:17.37 | figlfdev | i think the merged version does justice to KatolaZs entry. if someone is looking for something closer to verbatim, i (not sarcastically) recommend playing with jp2a (in the devuan repos) |
| 17:17.54 | KatolaZ | LongHairedHacker: I believe it's devuan/devuan |
| 17:18.14 | figlfdev | jp2a takes a jpg and converts directly to text... playing with options gives you more control over output |
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| 17:19.14 | LongHairedHacker | it's not devuan/devuan |
| 17:20.23 | figlfdev | brb |
| 17:20.23 | KatolaZ | wait |
| 17:20.56 | LongHairedHacker | it doesn't seem to have any other users than root and the usual system users |
| 17:21.21 | LongHairedHacker | so maybe root/devuan ? |
| 17:21.41 | KatolaZ | if you have only root it's probably root/devuan |
| 17:21.55 | KatolaZ | but I guess we should make them more uniform across platforms... |
| 17:22.17 | KatolaZ | figlfdev: just posted the 5-lines one to the ML, and put it in my .signature :) |
| 17:23.10 | LongHairedHacker | root/devuan does not work either |
| 17:23.18 | KatolaZ | root/toor |
| 17:23.20 | KatolaZ | ? |
| 17:23.32 | golinux | Note to all . . . we call it a 'swoosh' but it |
| 17:23.48 | golinux | 's actually an orbit! |
| 17:24.10 | LongHairedHacker | KatolaZ: Yes root/toor I just guessed it a few seconds befor your answer |
| 17:24.13 | LongHairedHacker | thanks ! |
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| 17:24.59 | KatolaZ | LongHairedHacker: but you are right, we should make those uniform |
| 17:25.03 | golinux | Which is very appropriate for a celestial body |
| 17:25.06 | KatolaZ | also the minimal live has root/toor |
| 17:25.21 | KatolaZ | and devuan/devuan |
| 17:25.38 | KatolaZ | which is different from the standard i386/amd64 images |
| 17:26.26 | LongHairedHacker | you should at least have readme somewhere close to the image |
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| 17:30.47 | figlfdev | hates access points |
| 17:31.35 | fsmithred | you mean public access points? |
| 17:31.48 | figlfdev | hey there. i mean wifi ap yeah |
| 17:32.12 | fsmithred | some are not linux-friendly |
| 17:32.26 | figlfdev | its an apple one :) |
| 17:32.29 | fsmithred | couldn't get a friend online when she was in the hospital |
| 17:32.40 | Inocuous | KatolaZ when I scan the router add 192.168.1.1 I get that same port responding |
| 17:32.59 | Inocuous | Makes sense I guess. |
| 17:33.24 | fsmithred | flash that sucker with free firmware |
| 17:33.32 | KatolaZ | Inocuous: uh? |
| 17:34.04 | KatolaZ | Inocuous: which options are you using? |
| 17:34.11 | figlfdev | not mine, fsmithred (i dont do apple) |
| 17:34.18 | figlfdev | though i would take a macbook over windows 10... |
| 17:34.27 | fsmithred | oh,sorry, I was talking to Inocuous then |
| 17:34.28 | Inocuous | I just just used -p |
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| 17:34.36 | fsmithred | I know he has an open port that he can't find |
| 17:34.36 | Inocuous | well, with the ip of course |
| 17:34.46 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 17:34.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~raspi-pw |
| 17:35.03 | KatolaZ | which port are you talking about Inocuous? |
| 17:35.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~liskeys raspi |
| 17:35.12 | Inocuous | 7676 |
| 17:35.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys raspi |
| 17:35.22 | KatolaZ | ~raspi-pw |
| 17:35.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~raspi login |
| 17:35.32 | infobot | i guess raspi login is pw toor https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-03/?msg=65351755&page=3 |
| 17:38.32 | KatolaZ | Inocuous: you might want to try -sV as well... |
| 17:39.36 | Inocuous | ok, I'll run it and see. I didn't get the same exact info you gave me last, but the same port, I suspect it depends on the switches. |
| 17:41.18 | KatolaZ | might be the case |
| 17:42.54 | figlfdev | love the sig, KatolaZ https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160604.171848.ef3f8a59.en.html |
| 17:44.49 | figlfdev | almost cried laughing: "I thought you were supposed to run manctl init so that the mand process could write its binary man journal which you manctl could make human readable." - steve litt |
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| 17:59.22 | figlfdev | if you want to know the low-end of accuracy in google ads, "insider financial tips" is trying to to convince people that the "military" just released a new "technology" (that isnt military tech, it is a toy jedi lightsaber) https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/9701035545753369649 |
| 17:59.24 | Inocuous | Must be the modem manufacturer. Hon Hai Precision Ind.Co. |
| 18:03.55 | LongHairedHacker | DocScrutinizer05: Cool bot |
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| 18:04.32 | figlfdev | you thought it was his too? (i guess freenode maintains it?) |
| 18:04.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | LongHairedHacker: hah! try ~listvalues ! |
| 18:04.59 | figlfdev | ~listvalues |
| 18:05.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues devu |
| 18:06.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~tell figlfdev about owner |
| 18:07.22 | figlfdev | is confused... thought its was DocScrutinizer05s bot originally |
| 18:07.27 | figlfdev | i thought you corrected me on this |
| 18:07.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope, I didn't even know what's IRC when she was young |
| 18:08.18 | figlfdev | if youre the owner, whos the author? |
| 18:08.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~_default owner |
| 18:08.34 | infobot | TimRiker is my owner |
| 18:08.43 | figlfdev | ah, ok |
| 18:10.15 | Akuli | alright, my laptop runs devuan on an ssd :D |
| 18:10.21 | Akuli | craaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzy fast!! |
| 18:10.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-) |
| 18:10.28 | figlfdev | Akuli: me too |
| 18:10.34 | Akuli | boots up in 20 seconds or so :D |
| 18:10.48 | Akuli | i've never seen any computer do that before! :)) |
| 18:10.58 | Akuli | and its so quiet... |
| 18:10.59 | figlfdev | i think mine goes faster than that, and its not even new |
| 18:11.07 | Akuli | mine is pretty old too |
| 18:11.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | SSD are great |
| 18:11.19 | Akuli | 2x23ghz processor, 2gb of ram |
| 18:11.24 | Akuli | 32-bit only :D |
| 18:12.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | mine even cheated on me, making a dd if=/dev/zero of=/ssd/somefile claim it copies stuff with 588MByte/s |
| 18:13.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | sustainable |
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| 20:03.47 | LongHairedHacker | About the raspi image: Has anyone tried to build gstreamer-omx for it yet ? |
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| 20:26.23 | parazyd | LongHairedHacker: one can use the deb from raspbian without issues |
| 20:26.33 | parazyd | it's not packaged in devuan yet unfortunately |
| 20:26.56 | LongHairedHacker | I noticed that and try to build it from source |
| 20:27.23 | LongHairedHacker | but I wouldn't play nice with the gst stuff from devuan |
| 20:27.45 | parazyd | meaning?\ |
| 20:28.44 | LongHairedHacker | it got blacklisted, because it failed to initialize |
| 20:29.21 | LongHairedHacker | I guess I pulled the wrong sourcecode from freedesktop.org |
| 20:29.35 | parazyd | you haven't tried the deb itself? |
| 20:30.11 | LongHairedHacker | not yet |
| 20:30.28 | LongHairedHacker | since I didn't know it was package for raspbian now |
| 20:30.51 | LongHairedHacker | last time I needed it I had to resort to some third party repository |
| 20:31.11 | LongHairedHacker | which is totaly outdated now for obvious reasons |
| 20:31.29 | LongHairedHacker | I'll try the deb from raspbian |
| 20:32.16 | parazyd | i got have one on hand if you wish |
| 20:32.22 | parazyd | if you don't have raspbian somewhere |
| 20:36.25 | LongHairedHacker | parazyd: http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/rpi/g/gst-omx1.0/ I'll try that one ;) |
| 20:36.47 | parazyd | got the same :D |
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| 20:44.28 | gigibi | hello |
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| 20:52.09 | gigibi | Hello everybody. I am trying out devuan with the Mate desktop. Seems to work pretty well. I have only had one problem in iceweasel so far. I would be glad to help: is there a way to file a bug report somewhere? |
| 21:02.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | gigibi: I think there is, but please wait for "the boss" to share detailed instructions |
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| 21:20.24 | LongHairedHacker | parazyd: combining that gst-omx packages with the gstreamer1.0-tools from devuan gets libgstomx.so blacklisted |
| 21:22.00 | parazyd | i have no experience with those, sorry |
| 21:23.13 | LongHairedHacker | https://gist.github.com/LongHairedHacker/3631df5aea3aef3abc1c1c1927d60b5c |
| 21:23.24 | LongHairedHacker | so how did you get it to work ? |
| 21:25.22 | parazyd | who said i did? :p |
| 21:25.34 | parazyd | just saw that the deb is in raspbian's repos |
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| 21:26.19 | LongHairedHacker | Okay I'll keep on playing |
| 21:27.07 | LongHairedHacker | getting some debug output I now know that /opt/vc/lib/libopenmaxil.so is missing |
| 21:28.49 | parazyd | LongHairedHacker: perhaps this helps: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43227&p=354311 |
| 21:29.06 | LongHairedHacker | I'm missing libraspberrypi |
| 21:31.42 | parazyd | what else won't they come up with :D |
| 21:35.35 | LongHairedHacker | okay hopefully I'll end up with some weird raspbian devuan hybrit |
| 21:35.43 | parazyd | lol |
| 21:36.01 | parazyd | at least you're using stuff that won't pull systemd |
| 21:36.07 | parazyd | so far... |
| 21:36.16 | LongHairedHacker | I might as well have broken the bootloader now (libraspberrypi depends on the raspbian bootloader package) |
| 21:36.39 | parazyd | note to self: check if this is possible to repackage |
| 21:38.07 | LongHairedHacker | so if have the omx gstreamer elements now ... I'll test them later |
| 21:38.29 | parazyd | what are you using gst for btw? |
| 21:40.14 | LongHairedHacker | It's for remote display for a video installation |
| 21:40.48 | LongHairedHacker | I'm streaming h264 video to multiple screen with pis behind them |
| 21:41.46 | parazyd | oh interesting |
| 21:41.59 | parazyd | did you have a working implementation already? |
| 21:42.14 | LongHairedHacker | one for debian and raspian yes |
| 21:42.22 | parazyd | how's the latency? |
| 21:42.38 | parazyd | also, what software? |
| 21:43.16 | LongHairedHacker | if you use h264 you'll have at least about 1s latency because of how the codec works |
| 21:43.57 | LongHairedHacker | software is snowmix with a some self written python around it to setup all the gstreamer pipelines |
| 21:44.18 | parazyd | cool |
| 21:44.36 | LongHairedHacker | I'm doing this once a year for a local mountian bike race |
| 21:44.49 | LongHairedHacker | it's the third iteration now |
| 21:45.25 | LongHairedHacker | we did some field test with the wifi components earlier today |
| 21:46.11 | parazyd | 802.11n i guess is the only one that can do hd video well |
| 21:48.09 | LongHairedHacker | for 720p you can get away with 16Mbit/s if you use h264 |
| 21:48.12 | zdzichu | what about 802.11ac? |
| 21:48.34 | LongHairedHacker | This year I was able to get some ac hardware |
| 21:49.01 | LongHairedHacker | 242Mbit/s over a 2km link |
| 21:49.55 | LongHairedHacker | https://twitter.com/l_h_hacker/status/739115742759669761 |
| 21:52.06 | armin | https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428 |
| 21:52.11 | armin | lolwut |
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| 21:54.52 | parazyd | LongHairedHacker: very neat setup |
| 21:55.23 | parazyd | ubiquity? |
| 21:55.53 | parazyd | it is :) |
| 21:56.55 | LongHairedHacker | yes |
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| 22:01.34 | parazyd | i hate the fact that ap-repeater mode only supports WEP or no encryption |
| 22:01.41 | parazyd | everything else i found amazingly good |
| 22:02.46 | LongHairedHacker | okay streaming to the pi works like a charm |
| 22:03.41 | LongHairedHacker | only downside glimagesink requires a running X and is laggy as hell and eglglessink is broken |
| 22:04.08 | LongHairedHacker | eglglessink was nice since it could scale 720p up to 1080p on the fly using the gpu |
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| 22:38.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | filenames against constipation and for first aid after ingesting toxic substances: .kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano-virtuoso.trx |
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