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| 00:39.03 | FNTM-U3 | What does it mean. That I have no keyboard or mouse in x after installing eudev |
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| 01:03.09 | FNTM-U3 | ? |
| 01:09.45 | err0rz | please, elaborate :) |
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| 01:21.30 | blueness | FNTM-U3: letâs bring the conversation here |
| 01:21.40 | blueness | FNTM-U3: i donât have enough information to really help you |
| 01:21.52 | FNTM-U3 | Ok blueness |
| 01:22.09 | FNTM-U3 | What would you need |
| 01:22.20 | FNTM-U3 | In terms of info |
| 01:23.21 | blueness | FNTM-U3: steps to reproduce your problem |
| 01:24.03 | FNTM-U3 | Installed devuan from the iso |
| 01:24.09 | FNTM-U3 | Worked well |
| 01:24.31 | FNTM-U3 | Then compiled and installed eudev |
| 01:25.02 | FNTM-U3 | Now I don't have keyboard or mouse after startx |
| 01:25.29 | FNTM-U3 | blueness |
| 01:25.43 | FNTM-U3 | And devuan seems to use vdev |
| 01:26.19 | blueness | FNTM-U3: expand on your details on how you installed eudev |
| 01:26.52 | FNTM-U3 | https://talk.devuan.org/t/what-are-the-differences-between-debian-jessie-and-devuan-jessie/56 |
| 01:29.48 | FNTM-U3 | It saye the device manager here in devuan is udev without systems but the WISH to change that to udev in future. And on how! I just built it. Looked at crux.nu/portdb and used that as bases to compile my own eudev instance |
| 01:30.03 | FNTM-U3 | blueness |
| 01:31.58 | blueness | FNTM-U3: sorry there isnât enough info and iâm not familiar with either crux of devuan to say what might ahve gone wrong |
| 01:34.10 | FNTM-U3 | Ok thank anyhow |
| 01:34.49 | FNTM-U3 | The mere fact or you answering is appropriated |
| 01:35.52 | err0rz | @FNTM-U3: If you get it figured out, please come back and tell us how! You might help a lot of people, not to mention the Devuan Project as a whole |
| 01:37.36 | FNTM-U3 | err0rz. Will do. But first I need a bit of help from you guys to find out what exactly is the devuan device manager atm |
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| 01:38.20 | err0rz | currently udev |
| 01:38.36 | FNTM-U3 | I had the same issuea while back. That was with crux linux and the bluntness helped to solve it |
| 01:39.08 | FNTM-U3 | It was the kernel them not loading the relevant module for eudev |
| 01:39.28 | FNTM-U3 | But now and here I don't know |
| 01:39.30 | FNTM-U3 | . |
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| 01:42.52 | err0rz | Are you able to return to a tty? (CTRL-ALT-F1 for example?) |
| 01:42.57 | err0rz | after startx that is |
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| 01:47.36 | err0rz | ..have to step away for a few, but what I was getting at is, check your Xorg.0.log. It's quite possibly an issue there |
| 01:48.12 | err0rz | for reference: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1031958-view-previous.html?sid=091bcd9d7c318dd76c9631aeded8118e |
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| 09:09.13 | jaromil | DocScrutinizer05: now neo900.files.dev-1.org should be pointing to your host finally. and yes the error was provoked by using the underscore (it was actually making the whole *dev-1.org not resolving |
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| 10:12.53 | FNTM-U3 | hello |
| 10:13.43 | firegarden | FROC HELLO |
| 10:13.55 | firegarden | ops wrong chan |
| 10:13.57 | firegarden | scuse me :P |
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| 13:07.17 | Guest_84554 | Allah is doing |
| 13:07.43 | Guest_84554 | sun is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:07.55 | Guest_84554 | moon is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:08.06 | Guest_84554 | planets are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:08.16 | Guest_84554 | galaxies are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:08.31 | Guest_84554 | oceans are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:08.39 | Guest_84554 | mountains are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:09.15 | Guest_84554 | trees are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:09.18 | Guest_84554 | mom is mot |
| 13:09.37 | Guest_84554 | mom is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:09.50 | Guest_84554 | dad is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:09.57 | Guest_84554 | boss is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:10.14 | Guest_84554 | job is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:10.24 | Guest_84554 | dollar is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:10.37 | Guest_84554 | degree is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:10.51 | Guest_84554 | medicine is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:11.11 | Guest_84554 | customers are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:11.36 | debdog | bet you're doing either :P |
| 13:11.48 | debdog | erm, neither |
| 13:12.21 | Guest_84554 | you can not get a job without the permission of allah |
| 13:12.36 | Guest_84554 | you can not get married without the permission of allah |
| 13:13.05 | Guest_84554 | nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah |
| 13:13.17 | flrn | Guest_84554: you better believe it^^ |
| 13:13.18 | Guest_84554 | light is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:13.49 | devil_ | Guest_84554: does he use systemd or not? |
| 13:14.00 | Guest_84554 | fan is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:14.17 | Guest_84554 | businessess are not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:14.24 | Guest_84554 | america is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:14.39 | Guest_84554 | fire can not burn without the permission of allah |
| 13:15.04 | debdog | we are all puppets of allah. /me goes to sleep, telling his boss it's allahs doing :P |
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| 13:24.41 | Guest_74755 | Allah is doing |
| 13:25.08 | Guest_74755 | allah is doing |
| 13:25.14 | Guest_74755 | sun is not doing Allah is doing |
| 13:25.22 | Guest_74755 | moon is not doing Allah is doing |
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| 13:33.50 | jaromil | omfg |
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| 13:36.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | jaromil: added http://neo900.files.dev-1.org/ to vhosts |
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| 13:40.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | cooofffeeeeee! |
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| 13:45.41 | nat0 | mmm coffee |
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| 13:48.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | Guest*: idiot muslim hater troll, do you really think you can trick us into hating muslims by trolling bullshit here? |
| 13:50.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | Guest76868: (Verger) please change your nick ;-) |
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| 13:51.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | Guest76868: I almost quieted you too |
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| 14:43.19 | jaromil | DocScrutinizer05: great |
| 14:43.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | np |
| 14:52.53 | nat0 | anyone else find the installer rails in a VM? |
| 14:52.58 | nat0 | s/rails/fails/ |
| 15:01.51 | KatolaZ | nat0: which VM? |
| 15:02.00 | KatolaZ | it works seamlessly in QEMU |
| 15:02.11 | KatolaZ | and in virtualbox, AFAIK |
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| 15:03.37 | jaromil | DocScrutinizer05: mirror address for neo900 updated on website |
| 15:03.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | ta |
| 15:03.56 | jaromil | :^) |
| 15:04.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | how long does Werner need to keep the interim URL stable? |
| 15:04.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | 4 weeks? 2 months? |
| 15:05.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I'll rely on his inertia ;-D |
| 15:06.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | it's stable as long as it's stable |
| 15:23.50 | fsmithred | jaromil, I just successfully made a snapshot of a system other than the one I'm running |
| 15:23.56 | fsmithred | script works |
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| 15:28.22 | jaromil | cool! |
| 15:28.25 | jaromil | KatolaZ: ^^^ |
| 15:28.52 | fsmithred | I'll post to list when I get it cleaned up. |
| 15:31.05 | fsmithred | I did a standard-system-only install from the official beta netinstall into vbox |
| 15:31.20 | fsmithred | converted the .vdi to a .img |
| 15:31.36 | fsmithred | mounted the .img and made the rsync copy from that into work_dir |
| 15:32.19 | fsmithred | only things I needed to install in the standard system were live-boot* and live-config* |
| 15:32.29 | fsmithred | don't need to install refracta tools or their deps |
| 15:33.03 | fsmithred | KatolaZ, you can get even smaller |
| 15:35.50 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: I can get as small as we want |
| 15:35.58 | KatolaZ | the only thing is what we want to do wqith small images |
| 15:36.08 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 15:36.08 | fsmithred | ok, I'll send it |
| 15:36.22 | KatolaZ | I am already considering removing most of the stuff from the image |
| 15:36.29 | KatolaZ | including refrecta, xorriso, and the like |
| 15:36.33 | fsmithred | two files - the script and the rsync excludes list |
| 15:36.44 | fsmithred | yeah, you can do that with this |
| 15:36.49 | KatolaZ | I mean |
| 15:36.53 | KatolaZ | once you have the image |
| 15:36.59 | KatolaZ | ready in /home/work |
| 15:37.13 | KatolaZ | you can chroot and remove the unwanted packages |
| 15:37.27 | fsmithred | they don't need to be there in the first place |
| 15:37.39 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: which script are you talking about then? |
| 15:37.41 | fsmithred | only the live-boot and live-config are needed, so the image will boot |
| 15:37.50 | fsmithred | the one that I'm not quite finished writing |
| 15:37.56 | fsmithred | live-snapshot-auto |
| 15:38.17 | KatolaZ | well, you still need xorriso... |
| 15:38.26 | KatolaZ | at least on the host system |
| 15:38.26 | fsmithred | where is your source system that you're making into a live iso? |
| 15:38.31 | fsmithred | yes |
| 15:38.35 | KatolaZ | yes |
| 15:38.37 | KatolaZ | and in fact |
| 15:38.55 | KatolaZ | I am experimenting with removing the unwanted software from the target image |
| 15:38.59 | fsmithred | the snapshotted system can be a mounted disk image, a directory where you're doing chroot installs |
| 15:39.00 | KatolaZ | just chrooting into it |
| 15:39.09 | KatolaZ | and apt-get remove --purge |
| 15:39.21 | KatolaZ | uh? |
| 15:39.28 | KatolaZ | got confised |
| 15:39.31 | KatolaZ | ~confused |
| 15:39.43 | KatolaZ | I am talking about the current workflow of refractasnapshot |
| 15:39.57 | fsmithred | and I'm trying to change your workflow |
| 15:40.00 | fsmithred | lol |
| 15:40.14 | KatolaZ | no problem :) |
| 15:40.19 | fsmithred | I wrote a script that makes a snapshot of a system other than the one you're running |
| 15:40.24 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 15:40.32 | fsmithred | so you don't need to have the refracta tools installed in that system |
| 15:40.37 | KatolaZ | okok |
| 15:40.39 | KatolaZ | cool |
| 15:40.47 | KatolaZ | mmmhhh... |
| 15:40.57 | fsmithred | it works pretty much the same, except you're running the tools in host system |
| 15:41.04 | KatolaZ | should it be loop-mounted then? |
| 15:41.15 | fsmithred | can be a loop mounted disk image |
| 15:41.18 | fsmithred | that's what I did |
| 15:41.22 | KatolaZ | mmmhhh |
| 15:41.28 | fsmithred | could be a directory where you did debootstrap install |
| 15:41.36 | KatolaZ | could it also work with a working qemu image? |
| 15:41.37 | fsmithred | could maybe be sshfs mount |
| 15:41.48 | KatolaZ | I mean, I guess you use rsync, right? |
| 15:41.48 | fsmithred | probably |
| 15:41.59 | KatolaZ | let's do that then :) |
| 15:42.01 | fsmithred | I used qemu to convert a virtualbox disk image to raw img |
| 15:42.06 | fsmithred | lol |
| 15:42.13 | KatolaZ | atm I am working with qemu images |
| 15:42.16 | KatolaZ | running images |
| 15:42.21 | fsmithred | I'll send it to you today |
| 15:42.22 | KatolaZ | where I can install packages |
| 15:42.31 | KatolaZ | make config tasks |
| 15:42.32 | KatolaZ | etc. |
| 15:42.45 | KatolaZ | and when I am done I call refractasnapshot on it |
| 15:42.48 | fsmithred | you know how to convert images with qemu? |
| 15:42.49 | KatolaZ | and get the image |
| 15:42.52 | fsmithred | or loop mount it |
| 15:42.55 | KatolaZ | kindof :) |
| 15:43.08 | fsmithred | whatever works to be able to make rsync copy of that filesystem |
| 15:43.42 | KatolaZ | if it also works through ssh, then it's perfect |
| 15:44.11 | KatolaZ | I already have a bunch of scripts to drive simple tasks via ssh on the running qemu img |
| 15:44.20 | KatolaZ | that's how I am producing minimal live images |
| 15:46.21 | fsmithred | should be fine to run it remotely or even as a cron job |
| 15:47.22 | KatolaZ | I don't need a cron job |
| 15:47.41 | KatolaZ | anything that does what refractasnapshot does |
| 15:47.43 | KatolaZ | via rsync |
| 15:47.46 | KatolaZ | is fine |
| 15:48.52 | golinux | is digging this collaboration between KatolaZ and fsmithred |
| 15:49.06 | KatolaZ | golinux: ? |
| 15:49.35 | golinux | ? |
| 15:49.40 | KatolaZ | ?!? |
| 15:49.46 | fsmithred | KatolaZ, if you want to do it remotely, you can just ssh in and run the script |
| 15:49.54 | KatolaZ | there is no need |
| 15:50.01 | KatolaZ | if the script uses rsync... |
| 15:50.13 | KatolaZ | to be clear |
| 15:50.20 | KatolaZ | ssh-ing is what I have been done so far |
| 15:50.22 | KatolaZ | automatically |
| 15:50.26 | KatolaZ | via expect scripts |
| 15:50.30 | KatolaZ | for all the stages |
| 15:50.37 | KatolaZ | it works seamlessly |
| 15:51.04 | fsmithred | yeah, rsync is in the script |
| 15:51.20 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: I mean, it should be possible to do whatever the script does just via SSH |
| 15:51.23 | fsmithred | the part that's not in the script is how you mount or set up the source filesystem that you want to copy |
| 15:51.33 | KatolaZ | that's my problem :) |
| 15:51.36 | fsmithred | yeah, it is |
| 15:51.46 | KatolaZ | I already have code to do that |
| 15:52.09 | KatolaZ | the source system is a quemu image, up and running |
| 15:52.18 | fsmithred | it's basically the same as refractasnapshot, except it for which system it copies |
| 15:52.26 | fsmithred | and it doesn't ask you any questions |
| 15:52.38 | fsmithred | just set variable in the head and let it rip |
| 15:52.47 | KatolaZ | (neither the patched refractasnapshot I have does ask questions ;) ) |
| 15:53.38 | fsmithred | ok, I guess this will still work on a running system. You'd just need to edit the rsync commands. |
| 15:53.45 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 15:53.47 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 15:53.56 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: that's great news |
| 15:54.02 | KatolaZ | which will save me a lot of work |
| 15:54.06 | KatolaZ | which I was going to do |
| 15:54.14 | KatolaZ | with removing packges from /home/work |
| 15:54.20 | KatolaZ | before running refractasnapshot |
| 15:54.21 | fsmithred | cool, I figured this would be useful. |
| 15:55.01 | KatolaZ | great |
| 15:55.28 | KatolaZ | I also think that, within a couple of days, the sdk I have been working on should be ready to be tested on other builds |
| 15:55.33 | KatolaZ | e.g. on a full live |
| 15:56.07 | KatolaZ | or on other package_lists |
| 15:56.16 | KatolaZ | it is extremely easy to use and configure |
| 15:57.16 | fsmithred | you give it a package list and it builds that system and makes all the different images? |
| 15:57.21 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 15:57.25 | KatolaZ | you just provide an egg |
| 15:57.32 | fsmithred | way cool. |
| 15:57.33 | KatolaZ | a directory with conf file and package list |
| 15:57.38 | KatolaZ | and it does the rest |
| 15:57.40 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 15:57.48 | KatolaZ | conf file is very simple indeed |
| 15:58.10 | KatolaZ | I am still working on a few small aspects of the whole process |
| 15:58.23 | KatolaZ | to smooth some rough angles |
| 15:59.00 | KatolaZ | but I believe this might be a good solution to create several kinds of images |
| 15:59.03 | KatolaZ | with the same workflow |
| 15:59.17 | jaromil | i'll make sure to study and plug your work next week to try into vm-sdk |
| 15:59.31 | KatolaZ | ok jaromil |
| 15:59.38 | jaromil | wants a vm image that is like katolaz' minimal |
| 15:59.40 | KatolaZ | I will also include some of your vm-sdk stuff into it |
| 15:59.52 | jaromil | noone needs bloat on a vagrant image for devops |
| 16:00.00 | KatolaZ | jaromil: consider that the current package list is *not* so minimal |
| 16:00.02 | jaromil | not even manuals are needed there |
| 16:00.05 | KatolaZ | but I have saved a couple of good ones |
| 16:00.19 | KatolaZ | from which we can scrap all the useless stuff |
| 16:00.23 | KatolaZ | including manpages |
| 16:00.24 | KatolaZ | locales |
| 16:00.26 | KatolaZ | etc |
| 16:00.39 | KatolaZ | it's just a matter of creating the correct package list |
| 16:00.43 | KatolaZ | the rest is done |
| 16:00.45 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 16:00.47 | jaromil | cool |
| 16:00.59 | jaromil | i suspect one day also hellekin's package analysis software will be useful |
| 16:01.04 | jaromil | sry phonecall |
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| 16:06.10 | KatolaZ | anyway fsmithred |
| 16:06.30 | KatolaZ | I would be happy to give a try to your script |
| 16:06.37 | fsmithred | ok, coming soon |
| 16:06.41 | KatolaZ | that would save some space from the minimal images |
| 16:06.45 | KatolaZ | take your time |
| 16:06.47 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 16:07.01 | KatolaZ | and will probably smoothen the whole process |
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| 16:17.48 | fsmithred | KatolaZ, do you want the part that removes network config files? I left that out for now. |
| 16:17.56 | fsmithred | also left out creating the package list |
| 16:18.49 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: I already have scripts for the package list |
| 16:18.56 | KatolaZ | both in the dpkg format |
| 16:19.03 | KatolaZ | and in the standard name+version format |
| 16:19.14 | KatolaZ | I don't care about network conf |
| 16:19.29 | KatolaZ | for the moment :) |
| 16:19.38 | fsmithred | ok |
| 16:20.45 | KatolaZ | thanks! |
| 16:20.50 | fsmithred | it works! :) |
| 16:21.06 | KatolaZ | In the meanwhile, you might want to have a look at my code |
| 16:21.25 | KatolaZ | https://git.devuan.org/KatolaZ/devuan-live-minimal/tree/devel |
| 16:21.30 | KatolaZ | stay in the devel branch anyway |
| 16:21.45 | KatolaZ | and please keep in mind that the readme is not updated |
| 16:22.32 | fsmithred | thanks |
| 16:22.37 | KatolaZ | thank you |
| 16:22.39 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 16:25.26 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: query |
| 16:26.13 | fsmithred | huh? |
| 16:31.45 | nat0 | KatolaZ I was trying in QEMU but it kept failing at the bootloader installation. |
| 16:32.08 | KatolaZ | nat0: there is no installer working for the minimal iso ATM |
| 16:32.14 | KatolaZ | I haven't tested it |
| 16:32.32 | KatolaZ | it's just a live, if we are talking about the same image... |
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| 16:47.53 | fsmithred | KatolaZ, you've got refractainstaller in the mini you posted today |
| 16:48.10 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 16:48.14 | KatolaZ | but I have not tested it |
| 16:48.20 | KatolaZ | so I can't recommend using it :) |
| 16:48.20 | fsmithred | ok |
| 16:48.31 | fsmithred | right |
| 16:48.32 | KatolaZ | I also put a disclaimer on the webpage |
| 16:48.46 | KatolaZ | I want to test the installer as well, indeed |
| 16:49.03 | KatolaZ | but the priority was to have something working as a live, at first |
| 16:49.06 | KatolaZ | :) |
| 16:49.15 | fsmithred | nat0, which iso were you using to install? |
| 16:49.37 | KatolaZ | fsmithred: does refractainstaller work with grub or syslinux? |
| 16:49.52 | fsmithred | yup. I tried aitors repack with the devuan-installer, and it runs fine from the boot menu |
| 16:49.55 | fsmithred | it uses grub |
| 16:50.14 | KatolaZ | refractainstaller or aitor's image? |
| 16:50.20 | KatolaZ | who uses grub? |
| 16:50.21 | fsmithred | refractainstaller |
| 16:50.23 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 16:50.25 | fsmithred | uses grub |
| 16:50.26 | KatolaZ | great |
| 16:50.40 | KatolaZ | so we don't need to fiddle with UEFI stuff, probably |
| 16:51.03 | fsmithred | I believe it needs to be already installed in the live system, but live system doesn't use it to boot |
| 16:51.07 | KatolaZ | since it's managed by grub, AFAIK |
| 16:51.16 | KatolaZ | yep |
| 16:51.24 | KatolaZ | it's installed also in the minimal live |
| 16:51.29 | fsmithred | script will bind-mount stuff then install grub to hard drive in chroot |
| 16:51.34 | fsmithred | then run update-grub |
| 16:51.47 | KatolaZ | ok |
| 16:51.49 | KatolaZ | fine |
| 16:51.50 | nat0 | fsmithred devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta_amd64_DVD.iso |
| 16:52.00 | KatolaZ | I will test it then |
| 16:52.05 | nat0 | trying again now, seeing as I'm sober. ;) |
| 16:52.27 | KatolaZ | nat0: looks like an official Devuan installer, indeed... |
| 16:52.28 | fsmithred | lol, that could help |
| 17:03.46 | nat0 | Alright it's worked this time, and I believe I've found where it failed before. |
| 17:04.01 | nat0 | Drunk me thought LVMs inside a tiny qcow image were necessary for some reason. |
| 17:10.11 | nat0 | So does Devuan still use sysvinit or another init system? |
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| 17:42.49 | fsmithred | nat0, devuan uses sysvinit |
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| 17:45.18 | fsmithred | identity crisis? |
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| 18:02.16 | Irrwahn | fsmithred: Nick expiry prevention, I guess. ^^ |
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| 18:05.14 | MinceR | :) |
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| 20:05.07 | enyc | meeps |
| 20:09.55 | porkjet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.25 | Irrwahn | Indeed, but most of us are sleeping under their respective stones. |
| 20:12.39 | porkjet | What this chan needs is a few dancing girls. |
| 20:13.07 | porkjet | ... or guys, if that's your thing ;) |
| 20:14.30 | Irrwahn | Not sure if ASCII-art dancers would be a real turn-on, though. :^) |
| 20:15.20 | porkjet | "never know until you try" |
| 20:15.42 | porkjet | thinks about all the times that phrase has gotten him into trouble |
| 20:16.02 | Irrwahn | :D |
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| 20:17.46 | porkjet | Maybe the new Devuan installer could feature some kick ass ascii pole dancing? :) |
| 20:19.51 | Irrwahn | Feel free to create an issue on git.devuan.org. :-> |
| 20:21.40 | porkjet | Irrwahn you dev on this project? |
| 20:22.03 | porkjet | Just curious, it caught my attention. |
| 20:23.07 | Irrwahn | Nope, just offering some help and occasionally reporting a bug here and there. And spending way too much time on IRC and the mailing list the last couple of days. ^^ |
| 20:23.50 | porkjet | Hey, Idiling on irc is pretty much all I do (can do) as of late, so don't feel bad ;) |
| 20:24.37 | Irrwahn | (Though that might change in the future, once I can get myself to wrap my head around package maintenance.) |
| 20:25.00 | Irrwahn | Oh, not feeling bad at all. =) |
| 20:25.05 | porkjet | It's not that hard, I used to be a DD back.... oh god, over a decade ago. |
| 20:26.03 | Irrwahn | Oh? Well, I've been a C programmer most of my career, but not so much on desktop systems. |
| 20:26.04 | porkjet | Maintained a few packages and was on the NM team... but that was "before". |
| 20:26.22 | Irrwahn | Ah, I see. :> |
| 20:26.47 | porkjet | Been away from computers for a VERY long time, came back to Debian and it was not what it was when I left. |
| 20:27.30 | porkjet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.28 | Irrwahn | Definitely worth it, if I may say so. |
| 20:34.04 | porkjet | Will do. Take care Irrwahn, I'm out |
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| 21:28.14 | lenovouser95 | jaromil: I was thinking if it would be a good idea, once non-beta is released, to offer the whole set of DVDs for offline installation just like debian does |
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| 23:40.04 | Centurion_Dan | o/ |
| 23:43.26 | golinux | Nice to see you, stranger |
| 23:45.41 | fsmithred | hi |
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