IRC log for #debianppc on 20101106

08:39.42*** join/#debianppc Nalle_ (~janik@a91-153-38-154.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
16:23.34pahartikHello Nalle_
16:32.26*** join/#debianppc Diytto (diytto@67.21.95.110)
16:32.31DiyttoHi!
16:32.39dougmenckengood day, commander
16:32.43DiyttoLol
16:33.07DiyttoWanna help me build/get icedtea-gcjwebplugin?
16:33.27dougmenckenDiytto: isn't it a part of gcc-java?
16:33.40DiyttoUhhh
16:33.42DiyttoIdk
16:34.08DiyttoI cant find that package
16:34.37dougmenckenah, it's part of icedtea
16:35.24dougmenckenthis one? http://packages.debian.org/lenny/icedtea-gcjwebplugin
16:36.18DiyttoYes
16:36.26dougmenckenDiytto: why did you got such an extra requirement to install it?
16:37.06dougmenckenand I dunno why apt cannot install it automatically
16:38.51DiyttoWhat do you mean?
16:40.43Diyttodougmencken: I just want the jre to work :(
16:44.00dougmenckenapt-cache search java << what does it print?
17:06.27Diyttodougmencken: Can you help with ubuntu?
17:11.02Diyttodougmencken: 1 sec let me run that command
17:13.07Diyttodougmencken: pastie.org/1277412
17:45.30dougmenckenDiytto: I don't see any significant difference between Debian and Ubuntu, maybe only different package maintainers
17:47.44dougmenckenDiytto: for jre, install: gcj-4.3-base, gij-4.3, libgcj9-0 , libgcj-common, openjdk-6-jdk, openjdk-6-jre
19:06.57Diyttodougmencken: Will do :)
19:09.55Diyttodougmencken: Okay i installed it all
19:10.11Diyttodougmencken: Now will it run in a browser?
19:10.45dougmenckenDiytto: stop, you asked about JRE and possibly JDK; now you have 'javac', 'gcj', 'java', even 'javadoc' :)
19:12.01DiyttoWhats that?
19:12.11DiyttoLol
19:12.12DiyttoK
19:12.16dougmenckenDiytto: aren't you java developer?
19:12.22DiyttoSo it will def run in a browset
19:12.25DiyttoNo lol
19:12.27Diytto:p
19:12.44dougmenckenDiytto: okay; which browser do you use?
19:16.24dougmenckenit might be Gecko-based (Firefox and derivatives), WebKit-based (Arora, Konqueror)
19:16.27DiyttoSorry
19:16.29DiyttoIm back
19:16.49DiyttoWhat did you say in the last 5 minutes
19:17.19dougmenckenDiytto: I asked you about your browser, in which you want to run applets
19:17.47DiyttoOh
19:17.52DiyttoIts epiphany?
19:18.00DiyttoWhatever debian comes with
19:19.58dougmenckenDiytto: I dunno, your "lenny" still uses gcc 4.3.x and such old stuff ;)
19:21.20Diytto:O
19:21.37DiyttoWhy?
19:22.01dougmenckenDiytto: it is all about stability, ask debian maintainers :)
19:22.21DiyttoLol k
19:22.37DiyttoI want firefox :'(
19:22.47dougmenckenDiytto: and what's the problem?
19:23.03dougmenckeniceweasel is the same firefox, as well as icecat (I use it :)
19:23.18DiyttoYou use icecat?
19:24.01dougmenckenDiytto: I even mantain powerpc builds --> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/manulix/icecat-gnu/bin-powerpc/
19:24.11DiyttoIs that your own source?
19:24.30dougmenckenDiytto: no, it's another firefox rebranding with goal to be free
19:24.37DiyttoAwesome
19:24.46DiyttoI will look into it when i am back inside
20:44.56DiyttoOk
20:44.58DiyttoIm back
20:45.30Diyttodougmencken: How do i get icecat?
20:45.43dougmenckenI'm front :)
20:45.53dougmenckenDiytto: just download the lastest binpkg
20:45.59DiyttoFrom where?
20:46.07dougmenckenit's slackware-style package, so you need to place it in / (root directory)
20:46.19dougmenckenDiytto: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/manulix/icecat-gnu/bin-powerpc/
20:48.07DiyttoI want the top one?
20:48.21dougmenckenDiytto: 3.6.12
20:48.30DiyttoAh
20:49.01DiyttoIm dling it
20:49.17DiyttoOh btw i have a java error
20:49.29dougmenckenwhich one?
20:49.55DiyttoI will pastie 1 sec
20:50.07dougmenckenDiytto: btw, got wireless?
20:50.18DiyttoI wish
20:50.58DiyttoOk http://pastie.org/1277755
20:51.18DiyttoOk i have downloaded the icecat
20:51.33DiyttoHow do i expand it
20:51.56dougmenckenDiytto: mv it to / (like mv icecat-* /)
20:52.05DiyttoIts thar
20:52.26DiyttoI downloaded it to there with wget
20:52.28Diytto:)
20:52.33dougmenckenDiytto: it is binpkg in tarred bzip2 :)
20:52.40dougmenckenokay, so 'tar xjf icecat*'
20:52.42DiyttoYea
20:53.07DiyttoConflicting compression options error
20:53.21dougmenckenDiytto: eh?
20:53.37DiyttoGot it nvm
20:53.39DiyttoLol
20:53.49DiyttoIts working
20:53.52DiyttoK done
20:54.05dougmencken"ELF file data encoding not big-endian (Possible cause: endianness mismatch)" << it is x86 vs ppc issue
20:54.17DiyttoOh
20:54.22DiyttoSo i cant run it?
20:54.57dougmenckenDiytto: your "WoM Player" requires a little love, like re-building on ppc host
20:55.26dougmenckenDiytto: icecat works on your side?
20:56.10DiyttoDid it install it with unzip?
20:56.26dougmenckenDiytto: yep, you can fire it up using 'icecat'
20:56.51Diytto:(
20:56.54DiyttoIt hates me
20:57.05DiyttoIt didnt work
20:57.08dougmenckenit must be also inside Applications -> Internet
20:57.21DiyttoHow do i do that
20:57.24dougmenckenDiytto: library mismatches? you might have old libs
20:57.36dougmenckenDiytto: which errors you got?
20:57.55DiyttoAuthentication rejected
20:58.17DiyttoIts not in the internet place
20:58.30dougmenckenDiytto: are you using Gnome?
20:58.48DiyttoI dont know
20:58.57DiyttoHow can i check
20:59.09dougmenckenDiytto: do you have Applications, Places and system at top?
20:59.12DiyttoAlso how can i rebuild that java thing with love
20:59.15DiyttoYes i do
20:59.23DiyttoTheres a foot too
20:59.36dougmenckenDiytto: so it is gnome, system -> about this computer can tell you more
21:00.21DiyttoOk
21:00.40dougmenckenDiytto: to re-build thing, you need source code for it
21:01.34DiyttoOh
21:03.19dougmenckenas about icecat, be sure to execute 'icecat' on non-root account
21:03.29dougmenckenand try 'ldd /usr/lib/icecat-3.6.12/icecat-bin'
21:05.20DiyttoIts no there
21:05.35DiyttoOh nvm
21:05.38DiyttoYes it is
21:05.39DiyttoLol
21:05.54dougmencken'find /usr/lib/icecat-* -name icecat-bin'
21:06.08DiyttoI got a symbol lookup error?
21:06.30dougmenckenDiytto: probably, there's *dozens* of libraries
21:06.40Diytto:s
21:06.44dougmenckenDiytto: I want to look at that output
21:06.53DiyttoWhich output?
21:06.55DiyttoFor ldd
21:06.58DiyttoOr icecat
21:06.59dougmenckenldd
21:07.03DiyttoK
21:07.47Diyttohttp://pastie.org/1277776
21:08.54DiyttoWhats a good irc client for debian?
21:08.57dougmenckenDiytto: you need libxul; try to apt-cache search xul
21:09.23DiyttoOk
21:09.23dougmenckenDiytto: I'm using Quassel (it's Qt, but it's cool)
21:09.29DiyttoOh
21:09.30DiyttoK
21:09.54DiyttoI am gettong it :)
21:12.18dougmenckenit's strange, because xul is the "core" of firefox, and you must have it if you had firefox
21:13.53DiyttoI have never had firefox
21:14.23DiyttoHiw do i get xul
21:14.36dougmenckenDiytto: try to run icecat now
21:15.10DiyttoSame error
21:15.26dougmenckenwhich error now?
21:15.36DiyttoSame one
21:16.34dougmenckendo you have '/usr/lib/icecat-3.6.12/libxpcom.so' file? if yes, try 'readelf'
21:17.04Diyttohi
21:17.09Diytto:)
21:17.15Diyttoi am on computer now
21:17.42dougmenckenwhere you was before then?
21:17.47Diyttoipod
21:17.56Diyttoi this better than xchat?
21:18.34dougmenckenDiytto: quassel is cool, xchat author sells gpl-ed binaries as shareware
21:18.51Diyttowhat is gpl-ed
21:19.15dougmenckenGPL is a license, which prevents those situations; never heard about four freedoms?
21:19.33Diyttook back to icecat. how do i install xul?
21:19.39Diyttowhats four freedoms
21:20.04dougmenckenhttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/
21:20.28Diyttoah
21:20.38dougmenckenDiytto: have you did 'apt-cache search xul'?
21:20.54Diyttoyes
21:21.07dougmenckenit gives you titles of packages to install :)
21:21.11Diyttooh
21:21.17Diyttoi have to install them all?
21:21.39dougmenckenDiytto: no, only "xul" or "libxul" (I don't see the output)
21:21.45Diyttok
21:23.01Diyttohttp://pastie.org/1277805
21:23.06Diyttooutput
21:24.40dougmenckenapt-get install xulrunner-1.9 xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support
21:25.45dougmenckenweird name, but they combined xul and xpcom runner
21:26.22DiyttoG4:/home/brady# apt-get install xulrunner-1.9 xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support
21:26.23DiyttoReading package lists... Done
21:26.23DiyttoBuilding dependency tree
21:26.23DiyttoReading state information... Done
21:26.23Diyttoxulrunner-1.9 is already the newest version.
21:26.24Diyttoxulrunner-1.9 set to manually installed.
21:26.26Diyttoxulrunner-1.9-gnome-support is already the newest version.
21:26.28Diyttoxulrunner-1.9-gnome-support set to manually installed.
21:26.30Diytto0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
21:26.32DiyttoG4:/home/brady#
21:26.35Diytto:(
21:26.42dougmenckenha
21:27.08dougmenckenstrange, hang a minute
21:27.10Diyttook
21:28.04dougmenckenyou need 1.9.1 for 3.6.1x; so it will be 'apt-get install xulrunner-1.9.1'
21:28.33Diyttoah
21:29.12DiyttoG4:/home/brady# apt-get install xulrunner-1.9.1
21:29.12DiyttoReading package lists... Done
21:29.12DiyttoBuilding dependency tree
21:29.12DiyttoReading state information... Done
21:29.12DiyttoSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
21:29.13Diyttorequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
21:29.15Diyttodistribution that some required packages have not yet been created
21:29.18Diyttoor been moved out of Incoming.
21:29.20DiyttoThe following information may help to resolve the situation:
21:29.22DiyttoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:
21:29.24Diytto<PROTECTED>
21:29.26Diytto<PROTECTED>
21:29.28Diytto<PROTECTED>
21:29.31Diytto<PROTECTED>
21:29.33DiyttoE: Broken packages
21:29.33dougmenckenDiytto: go to private for such pastes maybe?
21:29.35DiyttoG4:/home/brady#
21:29.37Diytto:/
21:31.36Diyttosry
21:31.39Diyttobrb

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