08:39.42 | *** join/#debianppc Nalle_ (~janik@a91-153-38-154.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
16:23.34 | pahartik | Hello Nalle_ |
16:32.26 | *** join/#debianppc Diytto (diytto@67.21.95.110) |
16:32.31 | Diytto | Hi! |
16:32.39 | dougmencken | good day, commander |
16:32.43 | Diytto | Lol |
16:33.07 | Diytto | Wanna help me build/get icedtea-gcjwebplugin? |
16:33.27 | dougmencken | Diytto: isn't it a part of gcc-java? |
16:33.40 | Diytto | Uhhh |
16:33.42 | Diytto | Idk |
16:34.08 | Diytto | I cant find that package |
16:34.37 | dougmencken | ah, it's part of icedtea |
16:35.24 | dougmencken | this one? http://packages.debian.org/lenny/icedtea-gcjwebplugin |
16:36.18 | Diytto | Yes |
16:36.26 | dougmencken | Diytto: why did you got such an extra requirement to install it? |
16:37.06 | dougmencken | and I dunno why apt cannot install it automatically |
16:38.51 | Diytto | What do you mean? |
16:40.43 | Diytto | dougmencken: I just want the jre to work :( |
16:44.00 | dougmencken | apt-cache search java << what does it print? |
17:06.27 | Diytto | dougmencken: Can you help with ubuntu? |
17:11.02 | Diytto | dougmencken: 1 sec let me run that command |
17:13.07 | Diytto | dougmencken: pastie.org/1277412 |
17:45.30 | dougmencken | Diytto: I don't see any significant difference between Debian and Ubuntu, maybe only different package maintainers |
17:47.44 | dougmencken | Diytto: for jre, install: gcj-4.3-base, gij-4.3, libgcj9-0 , libgcj-common, openjdk-6-jdk, openjdk-6-jre |
19:06.57 | Diytto | dougmencken: Will do :) |
19:09.55 | Diytto | dougmencken: Okay i installed it all |
19:10.11 | Diytto | dougmencken: Now will it run in a browser? |
19:10.45 | dougmencken | Diytto: stop, you asked about JRE and possibly JDK; now you have 'javac', 'gcj', 'java', even 'javadoc' :) |
19:12.01 | Diytto | Whats that? |
19:12.11 | Diytto | Lol |
19:12.12 | Diytto | K |
19:12.16 | dougmencken | Diytto: aren't you java developer? |
19:12.22 | Diytto | So it will def run in a browset |
19:12.25 | Diytto | No lol |
19:12.27 | Diytto | :p |
19:12.44 | dougmencken | Diytto: okay; which browser do you use? |
19:16.24 | dougmencken | it might be Gecko-based (Firefox and derivatives), WebKit-based (Arora, Konqueror) |
19:16.27 | Diytto | Sorry |
19:16.29 | Diytto | Im back |
19:16.49 | Diytto | What did you say in the last 5 minutes |
19:17.19 | dougmencken | Diytto: I asked you about your browser, in which you want to run applets |
19:17.47 | Diytto | Oh |
19:17.52 | Diytto | Its epiphany? |
19:18.00 | Diytto | Whatever debian comes with |
19:19.58 | dougmencken | Diytto: I dunno, your "lenny" still uses gcc 4.3.x and such old stuff ;) |
19:21.20 | Diytto | :O |
19:21.37 | Diytto | Why? |
19:22.01 | dougmencken | Diytto: it is all about stability, ask debian maintainers :) |
19:22.21 | Diytto | Lol k |
19:22.37 | Diytto | I want firefox :'( |
19:22.47 | dougmencken | Diytto: and what's the problem? |
19:23.03 | dougmencken | iceweasel is the same firefox, as well as icecat (I use it :) |
19:23.18 | Diytto | You use icecat? |
19:24.01 | dougmencken | Diytto: I even mantain powerpc builds --> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/manulix/icecat-gnu/bin-powerpc/ |
19:24.11 | Diytto | Is that your own source? |
19:24.30 | dougmencken | Diytto: no, it's another firefox rebranding with goal to be free |
19:24.37 | Diytto | Awesome |
19:24.46 | Diytto | I will look into it when i am back inside |
20:44.56 | Diytto | Ok |
20:44.58 | Diytto | Im back |
20:45.30 | Diytto | dougmencken: How do i get icecat? |
20:45.43 | dougmencken | I'm front :) |
20:45.53 | dougmencken | Diytto: just download the lastest binpkg |
20:45.59 | Diytto | From where? |
20:46.07 | dougmencken | it's slackware-style package, so you need to place it in / (root directory) |
20:46.19 | dougmencken | Diytto: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/manulix/icecat-gnu/bin-powerpc/ |
20:48.07 | Diytto | I want the top one? |
20:48.21 | dougmencken | Diytto: 3.6.12 |
20:48.30 | Diytto | Ah |
20:49.01 | Diytto | Im dling it |
20:49.17 | Diytto | Oh btw i have a java error |
20:49.29 | dougmencken | which one? |
20:49.55 | Diytto | I will pastie 1 sec |
20:50.07 | dougmencken | Diytto: btw, got wireless? |
20:50.18 | Diytto | I wish |
20:50.58 | Diytto | Ok http://pastie.org/1277755 |
20:51.18 | Diytto | Ok i have downloaded the icecat |
20:51.33 | Diytto | How do i expand it |
20:51.56 | dougmencken | Diytto: mv it to / (like mv icecat-* /) |
20:52.05 | Diytto | Its thar |
20:52.26 | Diytto | I downloaded it to there with wget |
20:52.28 | Diytto | :) |
20:52.33 | dougmencken | Diytto: it is binpkg in tarred bzip2 :) |
20:52.40 | dougmencken | okay, so 'tar xjf icecat*' |
20:52.42 | Diytto | Yea |
20:53.07 | Diytto | Conflicting compression options error |
20:53.21 | dougmencken | Diytto: eh? |
20:53.37 | Diytto | Got it nvm |
20:53.39 | Diytto | Lol |
20:53.49 | Diytto | Its working |
20:53.52 | Diytto | K done |
20:54.05 | dougmencken | "ELF file data encoding not big-endian (Possible cause: endianness mismatch)" << it is x86 vs ppc issue |
20:54.17 | Diytto | Oh |
20:54.22 | Diytto | So i cant run it? |
20:54.57 | dougmencken | Diytto: your "WoM Player" requires a little love, like re-building on ppc host |
20:55.26 | dougmencken | Diytto: icecat works on your side? |
20:56.10 | Diytto | Did it install it with unzip? |
20:56.26 | dougmencken | Diytto: yep, you can fire it up using 'icecat' |
20:56.51 | Diytto | :( |
20:56.54 | Diytto | It hates me |
20:57.05 | Diytto | It didnt work |
20:57.08 | dougmencken | it must be also inside Applications -> Internet |
20:57.21 | Diytto | How do i do that |
20:57.24 | dougmencken | Diytto: library mismatches? you might have old libs |
20:57.36 | dougmencken | Diytto: which errors you got? |
20:57.55 | Diytto | Authentication rejected |
20:58.17 | Diytto | Its not in the internet place |
20:58.30 | dougmencken | Diytto: are you using Gnome? |
20:58.48 | Diytto | I dont know |
20:58.57 | Diytto | How can i check |
20:59.09 | dougmencken | Diytto: do you have Applications, Places and system at top? |
20:59.12 | Diytto | Also how can i rebuild that java thing with love |
20:59.15 | Diytto | Yes i do |
20:59.23 | Diytto | Theres a foot too |
20:59.36 | dougmencken | Diytto: so it is gnome, system -> about this computer can tell you more |
21:00.21 | Diytto | Ok |
21:00.40 | dougmencken | Diytto: to re-build thing, you need source code for it |
21:01.34 | Diytto | Oh |
21:03.19 | dougmencken | as about icecat, be sure to execute 'icecat' on non-root account |
21:03.29 | dougmencken | and try 'ldd /usr/lib/icecat-3.6.12/icecat-bin' |
21:05.20 | Diytto | Its no there |
21:05.35 | Diytto | Oh nvm |
21:05.38 | Diytto | Yes it is |
21:05.39 | Diytto | Lol |
21:05.54 | dougmencken | 'find /usr/lib/icecat-* -name icecat-bin' |
21:06.08 | Diytto | I got a symbol lookup error? |
21:06.30 | dougmencken | Diytto: probably, there's *dozens* of libraries |
21:06.40 | Diytto | :s |
21:06.44 | dougmencken | Diytto: I want to look at that output |
21:06.53 | Diytto | Which output? |
21:06.55 | Diytto | For ldd |
21:06.58 | Diytto | Or icecat |
21:06.59 | dougmencken | ldd |
21:07.03 | Diytto | K |
21:07.47 | Diytto | http://pastie.org/1277776 |
21:08.54 | Diytto | Whats a good irc client for debian? |
21:08.57 | dougmencken | Diytto: you need libxul; try to apt-cache search xul |
21:09.23 | Diytto | Ok |
21:09.23 | dougmencken | Diytto: I'm using Quassel (it's Qt, but it's cool) |
21:09.29 | Diytto | Oh |
21:09.30 | Diytto | K |
21:09.54 | Diytto | I am gettong it :) |
21:12.18 | dougmencken | it's strange, because xul is the "core" of firefox, and you must have it if you had firefox |
21:13.53 | Diytto | I have never had firefox |
21:14.23 | Diytto | Hiw do i get xul |
21:14.36 | dougmencken | Diytto: try to run icecat now |
21:15.10 | Diytto | Same error |
21:15.26 | dougmencken | which error now? |
21:15.36 | Diytto | Same one |
21:16.34 | dougmencken | do you have '/usr/lib/icecat-3.6.12/libxpcom.so' file? if yes, try 'readelf' |
21:17.04 | Diytto | hi |
21:17.09 | Diytto | :) |
21:17.15 | Diytto | i am on computer now |
21:17.42 | dougmencken | where you was before then? |
21:17.47 | Diytto | ipod |
21:17.56 | Diytto | i this better than xchat? |
21:18.34 | dougmencken | Diytto: quassel is cool, xchat author sells gpl-ed binaries as shareware |
21:18.51 | Diytto | what is gpl-ed |
21:19.15 | dougmencken | GPL is a license, which prevents those situations; never heard about four freedoms? |
21:19.33 | Diytto | ok back to icecat. how do i install xul? |
21:19.39 | Diytto | whats four freedoms |
21:20.04 | dougmencken | http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ |
21:20.28 | Diytto | ah |
21:20.38 | dougmencken | Diytto: have you did 'apt-cache search xul'? |
21:20.54 | Diytto | yes |
21:21.07 | dougmencken | it gives you titles of packages to install :) |
21:21.11 | Diytto | oh |
21:21.17 | Diytto | i have to install them all? |
21:21.39 | dougmencken | Diytto: no, only "xul" or "libxul" (I don't see the output) |
21:21.45 | Diytto | k |
21:23.01 | Diytto | http://pastie.org/1277805 |
21:23.06 | Diytto | output |
21:24.40 | dougmencken | apt-get install xulrunner-1.9 xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support |
21:25.45 | dougmencken | weird name, but they combined xul and xpcom runner |
21:26.22 | Diytto | G4:/home/brady# apt-get install xulrunner-1.9 xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support |
21:26.23 | Diytto | Reading package lists... Done |
21:26.23 | Diytto | Building dependency tree |
21:26.23 | Diytto | Reading state information... Done |
21:26.23 | Diytto | xulrunner-1.9 is already the newest version. |
21:26.24 | Diytto | xulrunner-1.9 set to manually installed. |
21:26.26 | Diytto | xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support is already the newest version. |
21:26.28 | Diytto | xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support set to manually installed. |
21:26.30 | Diytto | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
21:26.32 | Diytto | G4:/home/brady# |
21:26.35 | Diytto | :( |
21:26.42 | dougmencken | ha |
21:27.08 | dougmencken | strange, hang a minute |
21:27.10 | Diytto | ok |
21:28.04 | dougmencken | you need 1.9.1 for 3.6.1x; so it will be 'apt-get install xulrunner-1.9.1' |
21:28.33 | Diytto | ah |
21:29.12 | Diytto | G4:/home/brady# apt-get install xulrunner-1.9.1 |
21:29.12 | Diytto | Reading package lists... Done |
21:29.12 | Diytto | Building dependency tree |
21:29.12 | Diytto | Reading state information... Done |
21:29.12 | Diytto | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
21:29.13 | Diytto | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
21:29.15 | Diytto | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
21:29.18 | Diytto | or been moved out of Incoming. |
21:29.20 | Diytto | The following information may help to resolve the situation: |
21:29.22 | Diytto | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
21:29.24 | Diytto | <PROTECTED> |
21:29.26 | Diytto | <PROTECTED> |
21:29.28 | Diytto | <PROTECTED> |
21:29.31 | Diytto | <PROTECTED> |
21:29.33 | Diytto | E: Broken packages |
21:29.33 | dougmencken | Diytto: go to private for such pastes maybe? |
21:29.35 | Diytto | G4:/home/brady# |
21:29.37 | Diytto | :/ |
21:31.36 | Diytto | sry |
21:31.39 | Diytto | brb |