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| 19:36.54 | dbtid | hello; does debianppc support the lite5200 board from freescale? |
| 19:37.41 | Bor_Ed | at least the mcu is supported so I'd place my bet on the board support too |
| 19:37.48 | dbtid | thanks |
| 19:37.53 | Bor_Ed | no problemo |
| 19:38.00 | dbtid | is #debianppc on irc.debian.org more active? |
| 19:38.02 | Bor_Ed | where you found such a nice board if I might ask? |
| 19:38.07 | dbtid | we bought it :) |
| 19:38.08 | Bor_Ed | check /topic |
| 19:38.16 | dbtid | irc.oftc.net is freenode iirc |
| 19:38.20 | dbtid | i'm already on freenode :) |
| 19:38.31 | Bor_Ed | nope, oftc is another network |
| 19:38.33 | dbtid | is irc.debian.org also part of freenode then? |
| 19:38.39 | dbtid | ok |
| 19:38.42 | Bor_Ed | irc.debian.org is freenode |
| 19:39.02 | Bor_Ed | how much you had to pay for the board? |
| 19:39.15 | dbtid | well, embedded planet has it for $800 |
| 19:39.25 | dbtid | we paid $1K for it, because someone here thought it had more stuff on it |
| 19:39.29 | dbtid | either way, same board |
| 19:39.31 | Bor_Ed | ouch... a bit steep for one shot project |
| 19:39.40 | dbtid | rotfl |
| 19:39.47 | dbtid | it's a drop in the bucket for this project |
| 19:39.50 | dbtid | oh, no |
| 19:39.53 | dbtid | company property |
| 19:39.57 | Bor_Ed | yea, figures |
| 19:40.06 | dbtid | we have one of the 8245 devel systems lying around unused too |
| 19:40.07 | dbtid | :( |
| 19:40.24 | Bor_Ed | aww, you need to give a good home for the piece of hardware |
| 19:40.27 | dbtid | heh |
| 19:40.42 | dbtid | i'm wondering how to get this kicked off |
| 19:40.47 | dbtid | i've got an ide HD for the board |
| 19:40.55 | dbtid | i want to run linux off my HD |
| 19:41.02 | dbtid | not quite sure how to get it loaded on my HD |
| 19:41.07 | dbtid | i don't have a MAC from which to do all this |
| 19:41.11 | Bor_Ed | network booting is usually decent choice to get the installer started on embeddable boards |
| 19:41.23 | Bor_Ed | you don't need a mac to install debian on it |
| 19:41.30 | dbtid | i wonder if u-boot would let me do that? |
| 19:41.38 | dbtid | so boot from an NFS share? |
| 19:41.39 | Bor_Ed | u-boot has netboot option |
| 19:41.49 | Bor_Ed | bootp/dhcp/nfs all together |
| 19:42.17 | Bor_Ed | there's documentation on the subject on debian install docs or tldp, can't recall which |
| 19:42.18 | dbtid | so if i got the debian ppc .iso image, made it available via NFS, i'd have a shot of doing this install? |
| 19:42.50 | Bor_Ed | no, you need the iso extracted and netboot enabled kernel |
| 19:42.53 | dbtid | they don't list this board; i wonder if it matters |
| 19:43.04 | dbtid | netboot enabled kernel? |
| 19:43.28 | Bor_Ed | hmm, a sec, I'll check if I can find something |
| 19:43.28 | dbtid | wouldn't i boot into u-boot and allow u-boot to load the system? |
| 19:43.32 | dbtid | ty |
| 19:44.46 | dbtid | i wonder if i could put an ATAPI CD rom on this thing, boot off the CDROM and then install onto the HD? |
| 19:44.49 | dbtid | that'd be slick :) |
| 19:45.03 | Bor_Ed | I wouldn't be suprised if the hardware boots from cdrom |
| 19:45.11 | dbtid | i would be |
| 19:45.20 | Bor_Ed | http://wiki.ppckernel.org/w/Mac_Netboot looks like netinstall howto... just leave the yaboot off and so on |
| 19:45.27 | dbtid | ty |
| 19:46.10 | Bor_Ed | and the commands are different on u-boot compared to apple OF, though I think you have a nice thick book next to you |
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| 19:58.04 | dbtid | no books |
| 19:58.21 | Bor_Ed | not even e ones? |
| 20:02.15 | dbtid | no; i can get them easily enough though |
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| 22:51.35 | PeterPowell | hi |
| 22:51.56 | PeterPowell | whats the equivalent of right click on debian if i only have a 1 button puck mouse? |
| 22:58.49 | simonrvn | @3 buttons |
| 22:58.57 | simonrvn | @+3 buttons |
| 22:58.57 | ravenbird | sysctl -w dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation=1, and dev.mac_hid.mouse_buttonY_keycode=XX -- where XX is a number you get from showkey (in console only), the key you want, and Y is 2 or 3. however, you'll lose functionality of the selected keys for any other use, or to make the change permanent, add the entries to /etc/sysctl.conf - man sysctl.conf, and you can enable it immediately by running sysctl -p after you've edited sysctl |
| 22:59.00 | simonrvn | that |
| 22:59.04 | simonrvn | PeterPowell: ^^^ |
| 23:02.55 | PeterPowell | thanks |
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| 23:04.03 | shaleh | I have an older iBook, the model with flaky board that makes the lcd stay dim |
| 23:04.12 | shaleh | thought I could use it for a media server or something |
| 23:04.29 | shaleh | I am trying to install etch on it, but of course I can not see the lcd -- using an external monitor |
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| 23:05.06 | shaleh | but I do not seem to be getting something right. I boot holding 'c' and all I get is a grey screen. Kinda like the screen before it would show the OS X initialization screen |
| 23:05.12 | shaleh | is there some magic I am missing? |
| 23:07.11 | simonrvn | @ig |
| 23:07.11 | ravenbird | Installation Guide .. see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual for Etch 4.0r1 (Stable as of August 15, 2007) .. or see http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/installmanual for now oldstable Sarge (3.1 ... 3.1r5). Lenny is now the new Testing! |
| 23:07.25 | simonrvn | only thing i can think of, no exp. with those |
| 23:08.01 | shaleh | I have read the guide, it says 'press c' but it does not talk about internal v. external monitors |
| 23:08.55 | simonrvn | you might need to force it to use the ext. monitor, via OF |
| 23:09.13 | shaleh | mmm, you would not happen to know how? |
| 23:12.33 | shaleh | is there an open firmware cheat sheet somewhere? |
| 23:20.32 | simonrvn | no, but there's a few tuts with that info listed in google. sorry i couldn't be more help. good luck |
| 23:20.58 | shaleh | no worries, thanks for trying |
| 23:33.17 | shaleh | and then I remember someone saying that the screen comes on when the daughter board is damaged you just have no back light |
| 23:33.29 | shaleh | I can shine a flashlight at just the right angle and KINDA see the screen |
| 23:33.47 | shaleh | on the plus side I have done many, many x86 Debian installs and just hitting enter usually works |
| 23:33.53 | shaleh | here's hoping (-: |
| 23:41.24 | simonrvn | :) |
| 23:41.55 | shaleh | if I never want to boot OS X again is it safe to remove all of the partitions and just setup /boot / and swap? |
| 23:43.37 | simonrvn | you'll need a bootstrap partition |
| 23:43.56 | simonrvn | but yeh |
| 23:44.49 | shaleh | current setup is 3 32K parts, a 256K part and a 20G part |
| 23:45.00 | shaleh | do I need to keep the 3 32k parts? |
| 23:45.48 | shaleh | on x86 I usually setup a 100M boot, then a 1 - 2 G swap and then everything else as / |
| 23:46.23 | shaleh | the install guide good use some love on the partitioning section. it is still very x86 centric |
| 23:48.36 | simonrvn | the 32-ish KB parts are apple driver partitions; you'll need a special partition called APPLE_BOOTSTRAP or such, for yaboot (press b in mac-fdisk to make it) |
| 23:49.22 | simonrvn | yeh, it'll create it (just double-check it, i used to have problems with d-i with sarge) |
| 23:50.12 | shaleh | 1 32K apple, 1 1M bootstrap, 1 19G /, 1 881 M swap |
| 23:50.19 | shaleh | odd swap size, but the rest makes sense |
| 23:51.00 | simonrvn | that's fine. minimum for bootstrap is 800 KB |
| 23:51.08 | shaleh | bye bye OS X |
| 23:52.33 | simonrvn | the very first one is the partition map (yeh, a partition to map the partitions ;) |
| 23:54.51 | shaleh | so in case this ever comes up again. Hold the flashlight so the body is perpendicular to the keyboard with the lens just at the top of the screen. Angle the body towards you a little. If you adjust the angle of the body about 15 degress either side of 90 you can read almost any part of the screen |
| 23:55.22 | simonrvn | heh, ok |
| 23:55.28 | shaleh | the "yes" for the hard drive partition ack was a little annoying |
| 23:56.05 | simonrvn | @ibook dim screen is <reply><shaleh> Hold the flashlight so the body is perpendicular to the keyboard with the lens just at the top of the screen. Angle the body towards you a little. If you adjust the angle of the body about 15 degrees either side of 90 you can read almost any part of the screen. |
| 23:56.06 | ravenbird | simonrvn: okay |
| 23:56.17 | shaleh | heh |
| 23:56.21 | shaleh | excellent |
| 23:56.23 | simonrvn | *shrug*, wasn't sure how to call the factoid |
| 23:56.33 | shaleh | ibook dim screen sounds right |
| 23:56.47 | simonrvn | cool |
| 23:56.54 | shaleh | i wonder if I had used the GUI installer it would have worked better |
| 23:57.02 | shaleh | but I did not know how to start it in GUI mode |
| 23:57.13 | shaleh | the install guide needs some more love |
| 23:57.16 | simonrvn | i've never used it |
| 23:57.19 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 23:57.30 | simonrvn | esp. the non-x86 bits ;) |
| 23:57.57 | shaleh | base system 75% done |
| 23:58.10 | simonrvn | wootage |
| 23:58.27 | shaleh | I am hoping the simple act of installing X makes everything ok |
| 23:58.44 | shaleh | long term this will be a mostly headless machine playing music and such in the living room |
| 23:59.01 | shaleh | but ideally it will output video to the TV for visualizations if nothing else |
| 23:59.12 | simonrvn | heh, neat |
| 23:59.33 | simonrvn | shouldn't be too hard ;) |
| 23:59.36 | shaleh | solves most of the pc in the living issues -- quiet, low power, etc. |
| 23:59.42 | shaleh | just lift the lid and it wakes up |