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| 01:09.39 | nefertum | hi |
| 01:09.51 | nefertum | do you know if bootsplash work in ppc? |
| 01:10.12 | nefertum | i've applied the patch to de kernel sources and I see it's necessary FB_VESA |
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| 13:08.50 | marchino | ciao! |
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| 15:11.10 | Curalton | where can i find the 2006/7 ftpmaster gpg key? |
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| 15:34.28 | Curalton | ah, there. strange my ibook missed it |
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| 16:50.20 | karim | what's the power needed for a G4 to play a dvd ? |
| 16:50.26 | karim | I have a g4 350, g3 400 and g4 400, and none can play a dvd |
| 16:50.39 | karim | I am wondering from wich frequency you can |
| 16:53.09 | Bor_Ed | g3/315 plays at least mpeg2 and xvid... ain't dvd mpeg2 encoded content? |
| 16:55.20 | karim | Bor_Ed, that's a dvd yes |
| 16:55.28 | karim | what do you mean ? |
| 16:55.34 | karim | I can play xvid fine |
| 16:55.44 | karim | but a 720*576 dvd have troubles |
| 16:55.46 | Bor_Ed | hmm, are you using mplayer in X? |
| 16:55.54 | karim | Bor_Ed, yes |
| 16:56.04 | Curalton | slow dvd drive? no dma? |
| 16:56.13 | Bor_Ed | try framebuffer on console mode, it's easier for the cpu |
| 16:56.13 | karim | they are enabled |
| 16:56.16 | Curalton | dmesg | grep DMA |
| 16:56.24 | karim | but I remember having also troubles with .VOB files |
| 16:56.43 | karim | [ 52.677211] hdc: Enabling MultiWord DMA 2 |
| 16:57.10 | karim | mpalyer says altivec is enabled though |
| 16:57.43 | Curalton | xvid at same resolution works? if so IO somewhere is too slow |
| 16:57.47 | Bor_Ed | mplayer has several versions for <G4 and g4 and faster |
| 16:58.55 | karim | Curalton, I have no xvid at 720*576 |
| 16:59.17 | karim | I mean I don't have such files |
| 17:01.19 | karim | playing with mplayer -vo fbdev fails, I have corrupted image and it's not fullscreen |
| 17:01.19 | Bor_Ed | try --cache, --autosync and --framedrop options to see if they help |
| 17:01.37 | Bor_Ed | fbdev is only usable on console mode |
| 17:01.47 | karim | on a tty yes |
| 17:02.14 | Bor_Ed | -vo xv works here with autosync and big enough cache even from lan or slow mass medium |
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| 17:05.19 | karim | what's the resolution of your dvd ? |
| 17:05.37 | Bor_Ed | 700x500 something mostly |
| 17:05.58 | Bor_Ed | some are in some weird extra wide formats too, 700x250'ish |
| 17:07.28 | karim | I use a flashed radeon 8500 le |
| 17:07.35 | karim | but it works fine in OS X |
| 17:08.58 | Bor_Ed | I use integrated mach64 with 2M vram |
| 17:11.59 | karim | and it works for you inside X ?? |
| 17:12.30 | Bor_Ed | with --hardframedrop inside X and without framedrops in console |
| 17:13.02 | karim | -hardframedrop crashed |
| 17:13.53 | Bor_Ed | hmm, with what -vo driver? |
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| 17:15.42 | karim | xv |
| 17:16.01 | karim | ok I will reinstall debian |
| 17:16.04 | Bor_Ed | got to give lappie for the kid, back in some but try x11 and shm driver too |
| 17:23.10 | karim | append="video=radeonfb:1024x768@85" |
| 17:23.21 | karim | I have this parameter in the kernel, I don't know if it matters |
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| 19:22.13 | karim | Bor_Ed, would I gain speed with gentoo ? |
| 19:25.39 | Bor_Ed | I pretty much doubt that |
| 19:26.46 | Bor_Ed | http://funroll-loops.org/ for more info on that |
| 19:38.59 | karim | thanks |
| 19:39.36 | Bor_Ed | just my .02 on gentoo in general, no fence |
| 19:40.17 | karim | I know that between G4 and G3 the difference is altivec |
| 19:40.27 | Bor_Ed | more or less yea |
| 19:40.31 | karim | however most altivec optimisation needs to be done by hand |
| 19:40.45 | karim | so gcc can't help on this most of the tim |
| 19:40.46 | karim | e |
| 19:40.47 | Bor_Ed | not really, gcc takes good care of that |
| 19:40.51 | karim | ah ? |
| 19:41.04 | Bor_Ed | 4.x is altivec aware, 3.x needed fiddling |
| 19:41.12 | karim | so on a 350 mhz machine it would significant ? |
| 19:42.00 | karim | I have OS X on partition, I am wondering if it's worth keeping it, because that's dead slow |
| 19:42.09 | karim | only thing is good for reading DVDs |
| 19:42.17 | Bor_Ed | if you have altivec aware build of mplayer I'd say it'll perform better than <g3 enabled one |
| 19:42.21 | karim | with ati hardware acceleration that linux doesn't have |
| 19:42.39 | Bor_Ed | 8500 is accelerated on linux |
| 19:43.05 | karim | I tried bery and compiz and it's slower than OS X compose |
| 19:43.08 | karim | beryl |
| 19:43.22 | karim | Bor_Ed, nobody knows how to use 8500 mpeg2 decoder |
| 19:44.10 | Bor_Ed | well, there's no acceleration on linux for ati mach64+ either on linux... the decoding must be done on software |
| 19:47.07 | karim | sure |
| 19:47.13 | karim | I don't know why you are so faster |
| 19:47.55 | Bor_Ed | I don't have dvd drive on the box to test real dvd .vob but at least it runs mpeg2 as dvd rip with no probs on console |
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| 22:45.42 | danielmccauley | Hello all |
| 22:46.27 | danielmccauley | Can anyone help out with configuring my Xserver to run Gnome with my Powerbook G4? |
| 22:52.05 | danielmccauley | anyone around? |
| 22:57.16 | danielmccauley | hello all |
| 23:02.07 | kontrast | hi |
| 23:03.20 | danielmccauley | Hoping you can help me out |
| 23:03.45 | danielmccauley | Im having a heck of a time getting Gnome to start on my powerbook |
| 23:04.18 | danielmccauley | im assuming that my display settings are incorrect, but i can't seem to get it to start the xserver properly |
| 23:08.12 | kontrast | hwat error code you get? |
| 23:08.25 | danielmccauley | can;t load windows |
| 23:09.01 | danielmccauley | or like no windows found |
| 23:09.01 | kontrast | do you have a more detailled log file? |
| 23:09.27 | kontrast | what x server? |
| 23:09.33 | kontrast | what x server? |
| 23:09.36 | danielmccauley | hmmm no just because this is the powerbook that debian is installed on |
| 23:09.54 | kontrast | ? |
| 23:09.56 | danielmccauley | hmm is there a way i can check that? |
| 23:10.12 | kontrast | what xserver have you installed? |
| 23:10.18 | danielmccauley | im dual booting linux and osx, i cant get into gnome so im on powerbook so i dont have the log file |
| 23:10.24 | danielmccauley | gnome |
| 23:10.25 | danielmccauley | ? |
| 23:10.37 | kontrast | gnome isnt a xserver |
| 23:10.42 | danielmccauley | wwhatever the default debian desktop workstation installs |
| 23:10.48 | kontrast | you have installed debian with netinstall cd? |
| 23:10.53 | danielmccauley | correct |
| 23:11.47 | danielmccauley | is that a problem? |
| 23:11.50 | kontrast | in the shell type: dpkg -l and then have a look if xorg or xfree is installed |
| 23:12.13 | kontrast | in think there?s no xserver installed |
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| 23:13.06 | danielmccauley | sorry |
| 23:13.26 | danielmccauley | I've tried a dpkg command pripor and it gave me a command not found |
| 23:13.33 | danielmccauley | *prior |
| 23:14.01 | danielmccauley | would a full install be better? |
| 23:15.14 | kontrast | if dpkg is not found, you haven?t installed a debian.... |
| 23:15.30 | danielmccauley | i tried dpkg-reconfigure |
| 23:15.35 | danielmccauley | and it said command not found |
| 23:15.56 | danielmccauley | i did a netinstall of debian "sarge" desktop workstation |
| 23:18.06 | kontrast | try apt-get install xserver-xfree86 or xserver-xorg |
| 23:18.40 | danielmccauley | ok , then? |
| 23:21.16 | kontrast | you should have it, |
| 23:21.33 | kontrast | have you ever used a debian? |
| 23:21.42 | danielmccauley | it should just auto configure my display settings? |
| 23:21.46 | danielmccauley | no sir |
| 23:22.52 | kontrast | i?m not from the debian team, so maybe you first try with ubuntu before starting with debian with base netinstall... |
| 23:23.05 | kontrast | or there are a lot of howtos and manuals out there. |
| 23:23.14 | danielmccauley | ahhh ok , have u tried gentoo? |
| 23:23.20 | danielmccauley | or would u just suggest ubuntu? |
| 23:23.23 | kontrast | f*** gentoo |
| 23:23.32 | kontrast | ubuntu is based on debian |
| 23:23.36 | danielmccauley | haha |
| 23:23.43 | kontrast | so you have the same system more userfriendly |
| 23:23.43 | danielmccauley | damn better cancel my d/l of gentoo |
| 23:24.00 | kontrast | yes |
| 23:24.03 | danielmccauley | ohhhh i gotcha |
| 23:24.39 | kontrast | ok |
| 23:24.44 | danielmccauley | i wonder why there is no ppc version for the latest ubuntu? |
| 23:25.12 | kontrast | 6.10 isn?t lts so, not really stable |
| 23:25.16 | kontrast | use 6.06 |
| 23:25.22 | kontrast | it?s stable and tested |
| 23:25.37 | danielmccauley | ok |
| 23:25.46 | kontrast | i?ll have some smoke,bye |
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