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| 01:50.54 | onid | hello! in using yaboot one edits yaboot.conf and then runs ybin in order to write the bytes on the booting partition like lilo does on pc's? |
| 02:04.10 | simonrvn | yes |
| 02:04.39 | onid | thanks simonrvn! :D |
| 02:06.43 | onid | is there a -t option as well to test but not install? |
| 02:06.46 | onid | hehehe |
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| 03:30.47 | deadcat | xorg 7.0 is broken in unstable ya? x11-common is failed to installed. now i am without X on the laptop (= am i the only one? |
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| 04:23.46 | simonrvn | check /usr/X11R6/bin to see if there's anything in there |
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| 06:22.05 | freeflying | hi all, anyone here use kpowersave on ppc |
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| 06:56.47 | deadcat | simonrvn: the package breaks when i install. you dont have that problem? |
| 06:57.05 | simonrvn | no |
| 06:57.14 | simonrvn | i removed the stuff that was blocking |
| 06:57.19 | simonrvn | 2 symlinks |
| 07:06.27 | deadcat | k |
| 07:08.00 | deadcat | simonrvn: it was wmapm |
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| 07:10.12 | deadcat | simonrvn: why do i have to install so many video- drivers? i just want -ati -input-mouse and -input-kbd |
| 07:11.20 | simonrvn | you don't. you install what you need |
| 07:11.49 | deadcat | its trying to install all those for me )= |
| 07:14.51 | deadcat | simonrvn: thanks. i apt-get install the -video-ati, now it only install 7 instead of all those. |
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| 07:47.41 | Corsac | grûh |
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| 08:05.34 | justinm | hi guys, someone posted a link here with info on which macs are old world and which aren't, and also had tips on booting cds with them etc |
| 08:05.39 | justinm | anyone remember that? |
| 08:26.11 | demon | the debian/powerpc install handbook enumerates which systems are nubus/oldworld/newworld; however, you can't boot a Debian CD on an OldWorld (and I've never seen any Linux CD that was bootable on an OldWorld)... |
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| 08:37.03 | simonrvn | @mac models |
| 08:37.17 | simonrvn | @mac models |
| 08:37.29 | simonrvn | @test2 |
| 08:37.29 | ravenbird | No I'm not online anymore |
| 08:37.37 | simonrvn | @macmodels |
| 08:37.38 | ravenbird | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Know/KbTopic8 or http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html |
| 08:37.56 | johill | "No I'm not online any more" ?? |
| 08:38.19 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 08:39.13 | johill | almost like saying on the phone 'btw, I hung up a minute ago' |
| 08:39.15 | johill | ;) |
| 08:39.28 | Corsac | :) |
| 08:39.41 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 08:40.56 | johill | hey cool, my keyboard backlight thingie works :) |
| 08:41.03 | johill | now on to ambient light sensors |
| 08:41.34 | Corsac | johill: you're recoding the complete drivers pack for pb 5,6 ? |
| 08:41.40 | johill | sort of ;) |
| 08:42.28 | johill | in this case I'm just moving code from pbbuttonsd into the kernel. well, improving it along the way |
| 08:43.48 | johill | http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/files/keyboard-backlight.patch |
| 08:44.57 | johill | heh. it shows that I wrote sound drivers for a while ;) |
| 08:45.04 | johill | 'It also detects the right i2s bus to use' |
| 08:45.09 | johill | should be i2c of course :) |
| 08:46.17 | Corsac | meh |
| 08:46.26 | Corsac | keyboard backlight in the kernel |
| 08:46.34 | Corsac | you rox johill, you know ? |
| 08:46.34 | Corsac | :) |
| 08:47.22 | johill | it sort of abuses the 'backlight' layer (which lives in ... video/backlight) heh |
| 08:47.37 | johill | but it's a backlight right? :D |
| 08:48.02 | Corsac | johill: and maybe this work could be ported to those guys who got a macbook pro |
| 08:48.18 | johill | well, I have *no* idea how the hardware there works |
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| 08:48.31 | johill | they need to figure out a lot of kernel stuff first too |
| 08:48.44 | Corsac | well, that's the job of guys who have a macbook :) |
| 08:48.45 | johill | because they currently enable drivers/macintosh always, which isn't quite the right thing to do |
| 08:49.07 | johill | but once they do, if there's any common code, they can do that. if not, I'd suggest writing a new driver |
| 08:49.15 | Corsac | yeah, in the kernel macintosh means "ppc" ? |
| 08:49.21 | johill | not quite |
| 08:49.23 | johill | I think |
| 08:49.35 | johill | obj-$(CONFIG_PPC_PMAC) += macintosh/ |
| 08:49.36 | johill | :) |
| 08:49.51 | johill | more like 'powermac' specific, see :) |
| 08:49.55 | simonrvn | crapple has gone through 2 arch changes. m68k, ppc, now intel |
| 08:50.04 | johill | yeah |
| 08:50.45 | johill | I just hope the macbook pro people will sooner or later move the drivers to some other place, or adjust the infrastructure |
| 08:50.55 | johill | their current kernel patches read like bad hacks ;) |
| 08:51.00 | johill | but that's ok for now |
| 08:51.33 | Corsac | yeah, that's a really recent hack |
| 08:59.01 | johill | hmm |
| 08:59.06 | johill | I have no idea how to surface the ambient sensors in sysfs |
| 09:00.29 | Corsac | « surface » ? |
| 09:00.34 | johill | show |
| 09:02.59 | johill | brb |
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| 09:08.16 | Corsac | johill: with your patch the buttons are hardcoded in the kernel ? |
| 09:08.33 | johill | what buttons? |
| 09:08.52 | Corsac | the keys |
| 09:08.57 | Corsac | for brightness control |
| 09:09.13 | johill | no no |
| 09:09.23 | johill | it doesn't react to the buttons, just shows a nice entry in sysfs |
| 09:09.49 | Corsac | ah ok, so pbbuttonsd (or other client) is still needed ? |
| 09:11.10 | johill | yes |
| 09:16.20 | johill | I'm thinking hal |
| 09:32.52 | johill | whee, ipv6 on my home net :) |
| 09:36.48 | Corsac | i have to wait for a week :( |
| 09:40.25 | johill | hm |
| 09:40.28 | johill | telnet -6 works well |
| 09:40.30 | johill | but galeon refuses |
| 09:40.30 | johill | wtf? |
| 09:40.43 | johill | and my router keeps saying |
| 09:40.45 | johill | MASQUERADE: No route: Rusty's brain broke! |
| 09:44.06 | Corsac | erf. |
| 09:44.13 | Corsac | johill: did you try other browser ? |
| 09:44.16 | johill | not yet |
| 09:44.43 | Corsac | (and maybe you need to adjust the network.dns.disableIPv6 value in about:config) |
| 09:45.30 | johill | ah |
| 09:45.40 | johill | the mtu seems to be screwed |
| 09:46.39 | johill | hmm no |
| 09:47.21 | Corsac | (speaking of galeon, do you know an hidden settings to have it open pages only in new tab, wherever the order came from ?) |
| 09:47.28 | Corsac | (command line, middle click or whatever) |
| 09:48.27 | johill | no, but you can use galeon -n from the command line |
| 09:48.31 | johill | and middle click is configurable |
| 09:48.58 | Corsac | yeah, same as epiphany, i'd have to make a wrapper I guess |
| 09:53.04 | johill | this is very odd. short packets go through but anything over 500 bytes or so doesn't. strange |
| 09:53.12 | johill | anyway, lunch |
| 09:56.56 | johill | or maybe the reply isn't fragmented properly |
| 09:57.13 | johill | will check on the server later |
| 09:58.53 | pahartik | johill: your MTU is broken? |
| 10:01.59 | Corsac | pfff, i don't want to wait for a week :( |
| 10:02.08 | Corsac | too bad one can't 'give' credits |
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| 11:01.43 | johill | pahartik: yes looks like |
| 11:01.50 | johill | except, I don't see where |
| 11:02.37 | johill | shouldn't my router just fragment the packets? |
| 11:03.41 | johill | the packets don't arrive on the server. that doesn't make sense, they go out my ipv6 tunnel (mtu 1280) |
| 11:03.54 | johill | I'd say someone else's mtu is broken along the way or something strange |
| 11:05.17 | pahartik | johill: someone else's MTU is probably broken then |
| 11:07.22 | johill | hah. tracepath6 says: Too many hops: pmtu 1280 |
| 11:08.21 | johill | omg |
| 11:08.27 | johill | ping6 -s 191 sipsolutions.net fails already |
| 11:09.29 | johill | but it's my end :( |
| 11:09.46 | Corsac | i can ping it |
| 11:10.09 | johill | yeah, it's my tunnel |
| 11:10.22 | johill | no, it isn't the tunnel either |
| 11:10.25 | Corsac | well, ::1 is the siixs part of the tunnel no ? |
| 11:10.27 | johill | it works fine from the router |
| 11:10.33 | johill | sipsolutions.net isn't sixxs |
| 11:10.37 | Corsac | ok |
| 11:10.49 | johill | it's btexact, had a closer pop |
| 11:11.00 | johill | looks almost as though it's sixxs screw-up |
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| 11:50.05 | rotzbouw | what is preferred by ppc users: xorg or xfree86? |
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| 11:50.53 | johill | I thought xorg was preferred by *everyone* |
| 11:53.12 | rotzbouw | okay. I've got lots of problems with it though, so I thought switching to xfree'd maybe help. |
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| 11:53.41 | rotzbouw | xorg starts up correctly like 33% of tries. |
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| 11:55.51 | johill | what machine? |
| 11:56.18 | rotzbouw | powerbook 5.8 |
| 11:56.40 | johill | interesting |
| 11:56.45 | johill | I'd have thought it doesn't work *at all* |
| 11:56.51 | johill | since there's a bug in the radeon driver stuff |
| 11:57.07 | rotzbouw | it works sometimes :) |
| 11:57.19 | rotzbouw | logging out fails 90% of all times though :> |
| 11:57.25 | johill | hm |
| 11:57.27 | johill | well |
| 11:57.32 | johill | the CVS is supposedly fixed |
| 11:59.14 | rotzbouw | how long does it usually take for new machines to get "fully" supported? |
| 11:59.28 | johill | yours should be fine mostly |
| 11:59.36 | johill | the bug also affects my powerbook 5,6 |
| 11:59.43 | johill | so I'm still running xorg 6.8.2 |
| 12:00.31 | rotzbouw | Hm, I had to install the sid because otherwise it didn't work at all |
| 12:00.55 | Corsac | i'm one of the lucky guys (maybe the only one ?) which runs xorg without problems :) |
| 12:01.16 | Bor_Ed | I have it working ok too, ati mach64 as gfx |
| 12:01.58 | rotzbouw | I guess the 9700 mobility is more problematic then.. |
| 12:02.29 | Corsac | 9600 here |
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| 12:22.31 | Bor_Ed | http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/04/27/mac.recycling.ap/index.html I can recycle say, dual g4 and faster too if someone here decides to upgrade to wintel mac :D |
| 12:22.43 | johill | heh :) |
| 12:23.08 | Bor_Ed | emacs will do too |
| 12:24.22 | risc- | :P |
| 12:27.15 | Corsac | I have a really old one (maybe even 68k, don't know) resting here |
| 12:27.22 | Corsac | and a g3 which I use as a test machine |
| 12:27.43 | risc- | can the bcm43xx in kernel 2.6.17-rc3 do 54mbit? |
| 12:28.01 | johill | depends on your hardware |
| 12:28.05 | johill | if it's 4318 then no |
| 12:28.11 | risc- | AE |
| 12:28.20 | johill | that tells me nothing at all |
| 12:28.26 | risc- | airport extreme... :) |
| 12:28.28 | risc- | 4306 |
| 12:28.51 | johill | AE = airport extreme was obvious, but the hw number is imoprtant |
| 12:28.56 | johill | 4306 should work at 54mbit |
| 12:29.02 | risc- | btw, I always get this error: |
| 12:29.29 | risc- | when I try iwlist eth2 scan: Warning: Driver for device eth2 has been compiled with version 20 of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 19. Some things may be broken... |
| 12:29.53 | risc- | (I can never get an IP from my eth2 (ae card) :s) |
| 12:30.22 | risc- | even though it locates wireless networks using iwlist |
| 12:33.37 | johill | try using network manager ;) |
| 12:33.57 | risc- | network manager? |
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| 13:18.52 | jck77 | hi, everybody |
| 13:19.44 | jck77 | i wondering if someone installed with success a flash player? i know there is no official package |
| 13:30.33 | Bor_Ed | gplflash in apt... works |
| 13:31.47 | jck77 | um in testing? |
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| 13:32.08 | Bor_Ed | at least in unstable... possibly in stable and testing too |
| 13:32.24 | jck77 | well i dont see it in my stable |
| 13:34.02 | Bor_Ed | libflash-mozplugin - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin |
| 13:34.04 | Bor_Ed | my bad |
| 13:34.08 | Bor_Ed | libflash-swfplayer - GPL Flash (SWF) Library - stand-alone player |
| 13:34.13 | jck77 | umm |
| 13:35.43 | jck77 | same thing :S |
| 13:36.19 | Bor_Ed | testing/unstable then most probably |
| 13:36.26 | demon | Bor_Ed: does it actually work usefully? I remember trying it in the past, and it half worked, but most flash animaations just made it implode |
| 13:36.50 | Bor_Ed | sound has issues but all the penis enlargement etc ads run just fine |
| 13:38.11 | demon | oh... thrilling |
| 13:38.11 | jck77 | i on a stable, using backports to install the testings ones! but even that i can get the package |
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| 15:36.58 | risc- | hi, anyone here already installed a java sdk on debian/ppc? |
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| 15:37.12 | Bor_Ed | several different ones... |
| 15:37.18 | risc- | and did they work? |
| 15:37.27 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 15:37.41 | Bor_Ed | at least ibm and sun ones have worked and are more or less recent too |
| 15:37.55 | risc- | I installed IBM's jdk, but things that normally compile under macosx/windows without errors give me errors/warnings on linux |
| 15:38.15 | risc- | and I cannot run thhem either |
| 15:38.44 | Bor_Ed | I've only made console apps and those tend to work |
| 15:39.01 | risc- | 1~java CyberSpaceInvaders |
| 15:39.02 | risc- | (.:4659): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap" |
| 15:39.07 | risc- | stuff like that |
| 15:39.26 | risc- | and it compiles like very fast, not like what I'm used to in osx.. |
| 15:39.40 | risc- | ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0) |
| 15:39.44 | risc- | aborting... |
| 15:39.46 | risc- | Aborted |
| 15:43.45 | risc- | even text apps do not work |
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| 15:52.23 | risc- | Bor_Ed: do you have a link for Sun's jdk? |
| 15:52.47 | Bor_Ed | java.sun.com |
| 15:52.59 | risc- | for ppc? |
| 15:53.05 | Bor_Ed | for ppc |
| 15:53.17 | Bor_Ed | java_se_powerpc-1_4_2-ea-linux-ppc.tar.gz file |
| 15:57.43 | rotzbouw | is it possible to downgrade from unstable to etch but leave the newest xorg version alone? |
| 15:59.07 | pahartik | rotzbouw: yes... though other way around it is easier |
| 15:59.19 | Corsac | well, downgrading from unstable to etch seems quite tricky to me |
| 16:02.39 | risc- | Bor_Ed: it must be me but I really cannot find it for ppc, only ia64 and x86 (version 1.4.2_11) |
| 16:03.06 | Bor_Ed | risc-: a sec, I'll grep the log |
| 16:03.41 | Bor_Ed | http://java.sun.com/j2se/embedded/survey.html |
| 16:04.04 | rotzbouw | What's the most stable desktop environment for debian/ppc? |
| 16:04.10 | Bor_Ed | console |
| 16:04.28 | Bor_Ed | twm shouldn't be too shaky either |
| 16:05.04 | rotzbouw | console = no desktop environment? :) |
| 16:05.27 | Bor_Ed | console can be desktop too, as I have here :) |
| 16:05.38 | risc- | got it, thanks |
| 16:05.41 | Bor_Ed | I have irssi, links2 and mplayer running on it :) |
| 16:06.54 | risc- | Bor_Ed: there is no sdk? (javac,...) |
| 16:07.18 | Bor_Ed | it has all the yadayada afaik... a sec |
| 16:07.54 | Bor_Ed | aww, had to do reinstall last week, don't have any java currently installed |
| 16:08.04 | Bor_Ed | but I recall it has javac too |
| 16:08.26 | risc- | it extracs to j2re1...-eval |
| 16:08.39 | risc- | and in the /bin there's only java,... but no javac |
| 16:08.53 | Bor_Ed | hmm, could've recalled wrong too... |
| 16:09.15 | Bor_Ed | there are several free java compilers too, gcj coming to mind as first one |
| 16:10.40 | jck77 | Bor_Ed: i use mp3blaster in console :-D |
| 16:11.24 | Bor_Ed | mplayer is good for pr0n, eh educational videos too |
| 16:11.33 | jck77 | lol |
| 16:14.35 | risc- | lol |
| 16:19.12 | rotzbouw | Hm, I think I've done a mistake somewhere editing in the "boot" section in Gnome.. I renamed "Linux" to "Debian" and "mac os x" to "MacOS X" and now, when the system boots and I press TAB to get the overview of the OSes available ti still shows the old ones. Where can I fix this? |
| 16:19.44 | rotzbouw | (I can't rename again.. apparently there are no OSes installed.. at least that's what I'm told in that menu) |
| 16:19.46 | Bor_Ed | run /sbin/ybin or such |
| 16:20.46 | rotzbouw | ok, i'll have a look there |
| 16:22.12 | rotzbouw | nothing there :\ |
| 16:22.34 | Bor_Ed | which ybin tells you where it is |
| 16:22.59 | rotzbouw | yup :) thnanks |
| 16:23.26 | Bor_Ed | no problemo |
| 16:24.52 | rotzbouw | So I have to replace the old values in that file with the values I renamed the old values to? |
| 16:26.22 | Bor_Ed | no idea, I don't have newworld box |
| 16:34.25 | rotzbouw | what's the "old" in the "Boot Manager Settings"? |
| 16:35.17 | Bor_Ed | previous kernel from debian |
| 16:35.47 | johill | useful if you screw up and your new kernel doesn't boot ;) |
| 16:36.00 | Bor_Ed | pretty much like that |
| 16:36.29 | rotzbouw | Hah, that's good, I'll keep it :) |
| 16:37.01 | rotzbouw | What IRC client do you recommend? I'm tired of leaning towards my wintel keyboard all the time :> |
| 16:37.11 | Bor_Ed | irssi-text |
| 16:37.18 | pahartik | rotzbouw: Irssi |
| 16:37.20 | Bor_Ed | xchat ain't that bad either |
| 16:37.22 | rotzbouw | (for Gnome, preferably) |
| 16:37.33 | Bor_Ed | xchat is a gui toy |
| 16:38.19 | rotzbouw | I hate the MacOS X X-Chat client.. |
| 16:38.28 | rotzbouw | it sucks even compared to mIRC |
| 16:38.37 | Bor_Ed | hmm, just get irssi and hack it to look like you |
| 16:38.55 | pahartik | rotzbouw: for GNOME, Irssi needs terminal emulator |
| 16:39.19 | rotzbouw | Ah :\ |
| 16:39.25 | rotzbouw | easy package installation? |
| 16:40.24 | Bor_Ed | apt-get install irssi-text |
| 16:40.36 | pahartik | rotzbouw: and preferably "screen" for easy attach, detach and sharing of Irssi across X11 sessions or various workstations |
| 16:44.27 | rotzbouw | beautiful webpage. wow. |
| 16:44.55 | rotzbouw | I hope the application is as good as the page |
| 16:56.15 | pahartik | rotzbouw: I switched from ircII to Irssi some years ago... probably about six years ago... |
| 16:57.17 | rotzbouw | Oh. I switched from MacOS X to debian/ppc days ago... probably 2 days ago... :D |
| 16:57.33 | rotzbouw | therefore I still like colours and stuff.. |
| 16:57.34 | Bor_Ed | I switched from xchat to irssi, wanted something that I can run on server and SZ and BX weren't my league |
| 16:57.59 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I would like to see IRC client that behaves more like IMAP client... |
| 16:58.53 | Bor_Ed | hmm, now that'd require some work... I've just managed to get instant messenger that behaves like irc... bitlbee :) |
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| 17:00.50 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: it would present IRC more as "message database" than "FIFO buffers of text"... |
| 17:01.24 | Bor_Ed | have phun making yer own interface for that... just some bot with mutt or so :D |
| 17:01.41 | rotzbouw | Hm, freenode isn't in the default networks list.. how can I add another network in irssi? |
| 17:02.09 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: someone will write it, probably not me... |
| 17:03.26 | Bor_Ed | adding networks is explained in the irssi site... as well as millions of other thingies |
| 17:03.32 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: wimp :P |
| 17:03.42 | rotzbouw | Hm, I don't see it :( but okay |
| 17:05.17 | Bor_Ed | rotzbouw: http://www.irssi.org/documentation |
| 17:06.22 | rotzbouw | oh, adding a network is just adding a name? ./NETWORK ADD freenode seemed to work ^^ |
| 17:06.37 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: my point is... it is annoying that messages disappear from buffers when user quits IRC client... |
| 17:07.04 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: quits irc client?? how that can happen? :D |
| 17:07.57 | Bor_Ed | and logging is invented to prevent blackout etc extreme situation faults |
| 17:07.59 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: my IRC client was started in 2004, so it will be even more annoying when power failure happens or my server decides to pass out |
| 17:08.56 | Bor_Ed | I have only 8k buffer on irssi and logging on every discussion |
| 17:10.05 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: when starting it again, I would like to get exactly same view as it showed when it was running... just like IMAP, I do not want messages or folder structures to disappear unless I order them to... |
| 17:11.20 | Bor_Ed | sounds like a place for some hacked generic script |
| 17:13.18 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: new IRC client with new user interface approach is required :) |
| 17:13.45 | Bor_Ed | and new server backend |
| 17:14.09 | Bor_Ed | SZ+screen+candyass imapwannabegui? :) |
| 17:16.10 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: what it "looks like" does not matter... point is that it would treat messages in different way |
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| 17:17.28 | Bor_Ed | I used to have messages blocked... worked ok but now when I have bitlbee running on same interface I had to allow 'em again |
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| 17:17.55 | rotzbouw | Ha :) |
| 17:18.25 | Bor_Ed | irssi? |
| 17:18.43 | rotzbouw | I think I want Screen, though. but I don't mind the ugliness of irssi's default settings |
| 17:19.09 | rotzbouw | Yup, I'm on irssi |
| 17:19.29 | Bor_Ed | I have xchat theme on irssi here, otherwise stock... and this is usable |
| 17:19.47 | rotzbouw | This is just perfect.. well, almost. |
| 17:20.13 | Bor_Ed | just install screen too to keep it running on the server forever if you prefer to |
| 17:20.58 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: was it that default Irssi colour scheme is "white on black"? |
| 17:21.03 | rotzbouw | Yes, I will. Oh and do you use any other messengers? like multiprotocol clients comparable to miranda? |
| 17:21.21 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: don't recall |
| 17:21.24 | rotzbouw | pahartik: it's black on white here. |
| 17:21.46 | Bor_Ed | rotzbouw: install bitlbee, conf it and you can access it from irssi (apt-cache show bitlbee) |
| 17:22.22 | Bor_Ed | I have googletalk and M$N running through it |
| 17:24.24 | rotzbouw | thanks Bor_Ed |
| 17:24.31 | Bor_Ed | no problemo |
| 17:24.39 | rotzbouw | How big would you guess the Jabber community? |
| 17:25.01 | Bor_Ed | some times smaller than googletalk which uses the same protocol |
| 17:26.05 | rotzbouw | what would it take to convince msn users to switch to it? I hate msn. |
| 17:26.28 | Bor_Ed | lighter EULA |
| 17:26.31 | rotzbouw | They call it a version 7 and there's no possibility to send offline messages :/ |
| 17:26.35 | Bor_Ed | oh, and hella smaller lag |
| 17:27.05 | Bor_Ed | M$N lags several secs even to neighbour country from here |
| 17:27.24 | rotzbouw | I haven't tried Jabber yet because there is nobody who'd follow me 'cause they are all so comfortable with msn/icq :/ |
| 17:28.37 | Bor_Ed | I have account in googletalk... that really ain't jabber but still... and got 1gig mailbox too when I made the account :D |
| 17:30.44 | rotzbouw | ugh, I made a mistake :/ I just deleted the whole top panel in Gnome instead of just one little panel inside of it. How can I redo this? |
| 17:31.43 | Bor_Ed | no idea |
| 17:32.41 | rotzbouw | hm, I think it wasn't a mistake. Now I have to build my own panel which is rather good as it won't include unnecessary stuff :) |
| 17:32.43 | pahartik | rotzbouw: create new panel instance and configure it to behave like one you had? |
| 17:32.56 | rotzbouw | pahartik: yup, thanks :) |
| 17:39.41 | rotzbouw | Hm, I'd like to have a cpu temperature monitoring tool... I have the suspicion that it's hotter than when on MacOS X :/ |
| 17:40.22 | Bor_Ed | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:41.25 | rotzbouw | don't see the temperature there.. |
| 17:41.50 | Bor_Ed | then your kernel doesn't support it |
| 17:41.53 | Corsac | there was, on old kernels |
| 17:42.09 | Corsac | (i remember i had it using 2.6.12 or so) |
| 17:42.37 | Bor_Ed | I have stock debian 2.6.8 for now... though had it on own 2.6.16 too |
| 17:42.41 | rotzbouw | why would they discontinue cpu temp. monitoring? |
| 17:42.55 | Bor_Ed | conf options... |
| 17:43.18 | Corsac | do you know which one ? ) |
| 17:43.18 | Corsac | :) |
| 17:43.49 | Bor_Ed | apm/cuda/pmud some switch somewhere |
| 17:57.07 | rotzbouw | -a stands for automatically? :) |
| 17:58.32 | pahartik | rotzbouw: did you look at "/sys/devices/temperatures/"? |
| 18:00.54 | rotzbouw | there is no "temperatures" |
| 18:02.55 | rotzbouw | I think I'll just have to trust apple :/ |
| 18:05.19 | pahartik | rotzbouw: your workstation is too new or too old? |
| 18:06.29 | rotzbouw | too new |
| 18:10.16 | rotzbouw | think I'm going to try a restart in order to get the touchpad working.. don't want to carry a mouse all the time :/ |
| 18:11.09 | johill | what kernel is he running?! |
| 18:11.13 | johill | that should all work out of the box |
| 18:36.16 | Corsac | does lmsensors work on ppc ? |
| 18:38.20 | johill | don't think so |
| 18:38.23 | Corsac | ok |
| 18:38.29 | Corsac | corsac@hidalgo: sensors [~] |
| 18:38.32 | johill | benh said something like "I'm not letting those people near ppc" ;) |
| 18:38.33 | Corsac | Can't access procfs/sysfs file |
| 18:38.35 | Corsac | Unable to find i2c bus information; |
| 18:38.38 | Corsac | For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and libsensors |
| 18:38.40 | Corsac | was compiled with sysfs support! |
| 18:38.43 | Corsac | For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'! |
| 18:38.45 | Corsac | :) |
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| 19:02.50 | felicitas | hallo |
| 19:03.16 | felicitas | anybody here who uses voip? |
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| 19:06.51 | rotzbouw | Re |
| 19:07.04 | Corsac | johill: ahah |
| 19:07.07 | rotzbouw | What again is the advantage of "Screen"? |
| 19:07.12 | felicitas | does nobody here use voip? |
| 19:11.15 | pahartik | rotzbouw: keeping terminals open and/or sharing them between multiple hosts or X11 sessions |
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| 22:24.41 | justinm | video=atyfb:vmode:14,cmode:32,mclk:65 |
| 22:24.47 | justinm | what does vmode:14 mean |
| 22:24.53 | justinm | mclk = refresh rate? |
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| 23:55.18 | microgramme | hi |
| 23:55.51 | microgramme | i'd like to ask you just 1 question : |
| 23:56.38 | microgramme | would it be useful if i read a book about debian on PC or it has really nothing to deal with debian on PowerPC ? |
| 23:57.57 | microgramme | bye |
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