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| 07:06.26 | vjacob | anyone know which brand of memory apple uses in their ibook G4 (late summer 2005)? |
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| 07:32.18 | felicitas | morgen |
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| 07:57.12 | felicitas | hallo |
| 07:57.17 | felicitas | marculix |
| 07:57.26 | felicitas | auf dich warte ich schon |
| 07:57.27 | felicitas | :-9 |
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| 07:57.57 | felicitas | maybe you can help me with voip? |
| 08:14.21 | pahartik | felicitas: have you got "linphone", "ekiga", "wengophone" or "twinkle" installed? |
| 08:14.32 | felicitas | twinkle |
| 08:15.14 | felicitas | when i get a call ican haar but die other one doent hear me |
| 08:15.22 | felicitas | hear |
| 08:15.49 | felicitas | and the hardware is ok |
| 08:16.05 | pahartik | felicitas: is there NAT between clients? |
| 08:16.12 | felicitas | with osk it works,linux it doesnt the way it should |
| 08:16.22 | felicitas | there ist a router |
| 08:16.31 | felicitas | but the firewall is not on |
| 08:16.50 | pahartik | felicitas: is "osk" another SIP client? |
| 08:16.50 | felicitas | but i have fprwardet the port for the stun |
| 08:16.55 | felicitas | 3478 |
| 08:17.07 | felicitas | that is for stun.t-online |
| 08:17.37 | felicitas | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.41 | felicitas | it rings |
| 08:17.45 | felicitas | ican hiear |
| 08:17.51 | felicitas | i want to answer |
| 08:18.09 | felicitas | but the person on the other end doesnt hear me |
| 08:18.35 | felicitas | so they put the phone down |
| 08:19.00 | felicitas | i have tried linphone kphone and now twinkle |
| 08:19.31 | felicitas | an x-lite |
| 08:19.46 | felicitas | but that doesnt work eather |
| 08:19.56 | felicitas | its always the same |
| 08:20.01 | felicitas | ich can hear |
| 08:20.16 | felicitas | but the other one dont hear me |
| 08:20.37 | pahartik | felicitas: but you can record audio from microphone with "arecord"? |
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| 08:21.00 | felicitas | i have testet my voice |
| 08:21.15 | felicitas | i can hear it |
| 08:21.33 | felicitas | it is not the hardware |
| 08:21.58 | felicitas | maybe i should forward another port |
| 08:22.06 | felicitas | only which one |
| 08:22.22 | felicitas | i have googled the whole night |
| 08:22.36 | felicitas | sooon i loook like google |
| 08:22.57 | felicitas | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.06 | felicitas | so does anybody have an idea? |
| 08:25.34 | pahartik | felicitas: if you have got NAT between clients, it could well be reason... |
| 08:25.54 | felicitas | yes |
| 08:26.08 | felicitas | but with osx it works perfect |
| 08:26.30 | felicitas | maybe linux needs a special port |
| 08:27.05 | felicitas | the router has options for voip |
| 08:27.12 | felicitas | i hab to edit it |
| 08:27.28 | felicitas | a |
| 08:29.03 | felicitas | i have an option in twinkel where i can use a statik external ip |
| 08:29.14 | felicitas | should i aktivate that? |
| 08:29.38 | felicitas | i have a static internal ip |
| 08:29.57 | felicitas | there are 4 pcs in the net |
| 08:30.12 | felicitas | all hanging on the router |
| 08:30.17 | felicitas | one is xp |
| 08:30.26 | felicitas | one is ubuntu |
| 08:30.55 | felicitas | one is osx and debian ppc dual boot |
| 08:31.09 | felicitas | and each has an static ip |
| 08:31.30 | felicitas | i have forwardet dccports for irc |
| 08:32.02 | felicitas | i have to forward ident,too if i want to use that |
| 08:32.15 | felicitas | and the donkey works too |
| 08:32.24 | felicitas | with port forwarding |
| 08:32.40 | felicitas | i have only forwarded the stun port |
| 08:33.16 | felicitas | because i doesnt tel me annywhere in the manual about other ports to forward |
| 08:33.41 | felicitas | t-online listens to 5060 |
| 08:33.59 | felicitas | but if i forward that |
| 08:34.15 | felicitas | the other pcs cant phone anymore |
| 08:34.19 | pahartik | felicitas: simple port forwarding is not enough, as at both ends SIP clients need to be aware about it |
| 08:35.00 | felicitas | the other person has not a sip it is an ornnary phone i make the calls to |
| 08:35.19 | felicitas | i have a special flatrate for that |
| 08:35.38 | felicitas | i use my normal phone via the router,too |
| 08:35.43 | felicitas | and it works |
| 08:36.03 | felicitas | so what do you suggest? |
| 08:36.55 | felicitas | but why does osx work |
| 08:37.05 | felicitas | and linux does not? |
| 08:37.28 | felicitas | i have linphone fr osx and on the xp pc too |
| 08:37.32 | felicitas | and it works |
| 08:37.33 | pahartik | felicitas: we can test communications between SIP clients and see if anything gets figured out... I do not have NAT over here... well, I do, but only some hosts are behind it... most have public IP address |
| 08:38.39 | felicitas | so what should i try out next? |
| 08:42.37 | felicitas | when i googled last night i read i was not the only one with that pribl |
| 08:42.52 | felicitas | someone else had postet it in a forum |
| 08:42.57 | felicitas | but no answers |
| 08:44.06 | felicitas | i had this problem not only with the provider t-online with freenet it was the same |
| 08:44.31 | felicitas | it must be something to do wioth the ports |
| 08:44.57 | felicitas | if i only could find a solution in google |
| 08:45.08 | felicitas | but i havent found one yet |
| 08:45.20 | pahartik | felicitas: I just started Ekiga at "sip:pahartik@80.221.142.206" |
| 08:45.51 | felicitas | do i have to ring this ip? |
| 08:46.17 | felicitas | hear is mine |
| 08:46.32 | pahartik | felicitas: you could try to "dial", yes |
| 08:46.38 | felicitas | sip:regenbogenhexe01@t-online.de |
| 08:46.45 | felicitas | ok i try |
| 08:47.02 | felicitas | if you dont hear me then you see the mistake |
| 08:50.24 | felicitas | a 10:49:54 |
| 08:50.24 | felicitas | Line 2:call failed. |
| 08:50.25 | felicitas | 404 Zielrufnummer nicht bekannt oder nicht unterstÃÆüt |
| 08:50.27 | felicitas | do you have an internet telnr? |
| 08:51.20 | felicitas | try to ring me |
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| 08:53.55 | pahartik | felicitas: I get "could not reach destination" with Linphone, trying with Ekiga again... |
| 08:54.39 | felicitas | what provider do you have? |
| 08:55.23 | felicitas | here ist my internet no |
| 08:55.36 | felicitas | 032225158773 |
| 08:55.37 | pahartik | felicitas: I am not using any SIP registrar, if you mean that... just connecting directly... |
| 08:55.57 | felicitas | how does that work? |
| 08:56.13 | felicitas | i have never tried that |
| 08:58.37 | felicitas | why does the no not work? |
| 08:58.42 | pahartik | felicitas: by not registering... not all clients support that, I have heard... for example "minisip" required SIP registrar to dial at all |
| 08:59.17 | felicitas | what client do i need to ring you? |
| 08:59.44 | felicitas | without sip |
| 09:00.51 | pahartik | felicitas: it is not without SIP, it is without registrar |
| 09:01.25 | pahartik | felicitas: Linphone is quite easy on that |
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| 09:17.54 | felicitas | pahartik |
| 09:18.05 | felicitas | i have set the client up now |
| 09:18.27 | felicitas | can you open your sipclient again? |
| 09:18.49 | pahartik | felicitas: Linphone has been running for while |
| 09:21.34 | felicitas | when i ring you to i have to type in the linphone: |
| 09:22.03 | felicitas | sip:pahartik@80.221.142.206 |
| 09:22.05 | felicitas | ? |
| 09:24.26 | pahartik | felicitas: I can see that your (?) client requested for my "Presence Status"... but I can see problem with that, as your client reports itself as "sip:margita@192.168.0.12"... my response to your request will never get out through my default route... |
| 09:25.08 | felicitas | i set that up especcially for you |
| 09:25.18 | felicitas | with linphone |
| 09:25.24 | felicitas | withat registrar |
| 09:25.31 | felicitas | or provider |
| 09:25.38 | felicitas | was that wrong? |
| 09:26.15 | felicitas | what should i had written? |
| 09:26.19 | pahartik | felicitas: problem is that your SIP client is behind NAT |
| 09:26.31 | felicitas | i forwardet ports |
| 09:26.40 | felicitas | 5060 |
| 09:26.59 | felicitas | and gave mayself an external ip |
| 09:27.08 | felicitas | the ip from the router |
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| 09:29.31 | pahartik | felicitas: not single router between your LAN and my LAN would be able to figure out that my client wants to send packets to your client on your private LAN... |
| 09:30.42 | felicitas | so what do i have to do |
| 09:30.53 | felicitas | most people are behind a router |
| 09:30.58 | pahartik | felicitas: SIP (or any UDP) over NAT is tricky... you need to fix network configuration or client configuration... or move workstation outside NAT |
| 09:31.19 | felicitas | thats not possible |
| 09:31.28 | felicitas | with osx it works |
| 09:31.49 | felicitas | when iam with osx online i can call |
| 09:31.54 | felicitas | and get |
| 09:32.07 | felicitas | and i am behind the router |
| 09:32.18 | felicitas | so what is the difference? |
| 09:33.03 | pahartik | felicitas: client uses tricks to get past NAT, maybe TCP instead of UDP, I am not sure |
| 09:33.25 | felicitas | i havew tried that option too |
| 09:34.01 | felicitas | i can even give my router the option to use both whjatever ist needet |
| 09:34.52 | felicitas | if it would be just the router why can i phone when ian with osx panther online? |
| 09:35.05 | felicitas | why not with linux? |
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| 09:39.05 | pahartik | felicitas: UDP over NAT is tricky, some SIP clients are successful on dealing with it |
| 09:40.12 | felicitas | x-lite can with osk |
| 09:40.23 | felicitas | i have tried it with linux |
| 09:40.28 | felicitas | it didnt work |
| 09:40.33 | felicitas | the same client |
| 09:40.40 | felicitas | x-lite fpor linux |
| 09:43.59 | pahartik | felicitas: I know X-Lite, but what is this "osk" you refer to? |
| 09:44.33 | felicitas | mac osx |
| 09:44.41 | felicitas | apple mac distri |
| 09:44.48 | felicitas | and windows xp |
| 09:45.49 | pahartik | felicitas: oh, I was sending responses to your private messages but FreeNode was blocking them as I have not identified myself to NickServ after getting disconnected (whenever that was) |
| 09:46.50 | felicitas | oh |
| 09:56.08 | pahartik | felicitas: I suggest using X-Lite on MacOS X until finding workaround solution to NAT problem... or run SIP proxy on NAT host |
| 09:57.47 | felicitas | but i want to find the problem |
| 09:57.54 | felicitas | or i cant get piece |
| 09:58.07 | felicitas | i tried proxy too |
| 10:01.15 | pahartik | felicitas: if you run SIP proxy on host that performs NAT, SIP client does not have to do tricks to get past NAT... SIP proxy would have access both sides of NAT instead of trying to communicate through it |
| 10:02.20 | felicitas | where does the proxy have to be on the client? |
| 10:02.32 | felicitas | socks? |
| 10:05.14 | pahartik | felicitas: for example... on Linphone configuration dialog, SIP section, Add proxy/registrar... |
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| 10:09.44 | felicitas | same on twinkle |
| 10:09.50 | felicitas | ihave tried that |
| 10:10.14 | felicitas | what do you put in the proxy gateway? |
| 10:12.24 | pahartik | felicitas: private IP address of SIP proxy, on same side of NAT as SIP client |
| 10:12.52 | felicitas | which private ip adrees? |
| 10:12.58 | felicitas | gateway? |
| 10:13.05 | felicitas | 192.168.0.1? |
| 10:13.24 | felicitas | or my client ip? |
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| 10:17.55 | pahartik | felicitas: private IP address of NAT router host that SIP proxy runs on... "192.168.0.1" could well be it |
| 10:18.46 | felicitas | imean ive tried that alsready |
| 10:19.14 | felicitas | il have a brak fpor half an hour |
| 10:19.22 | felicitas | seee you later |
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| 11:27.14 | MeisterTom | Does Voodoo3 have 3D accel support on powerpc? |
| 11:31.20 | Bor_Ed | nope :/ |
| 11:31.50 | Bor_Ed | afaik, only ati cards have, starting from rage128 |
| 11:32.01 | MeisterTom | ok, thx |
| 11:32.13 | Bor_Ed | no prob |
| 11:36.02 | Bor_Ed | at least voodoo3/3000 doesn't have 3d on dri driver... just own experience with xorg |
| 11:49.28 | MeisterTom | ok, 3d only on Radeon |
| 12:08.49 | Bor_Ed | it's on rage 128 too... r128pro works decently with 16M sgram |
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| 12:18.02 | dj-death | Hi all |
| 12:18.22 | dj-death | is someone using xorg 7.0 from debian ? |
| 12:18.42 | dj-death | my xserver does not want to work anymore ... |
| 12:21.13 | Bor_Ed | hmm, probably am since I got pretty much every X package updated on dist-upgrade |
| 12:21.41 | dj-death | Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! |
| 12:21.41 | dj-death | Fatal server error: |
| 12:21.42 | dj-death | could not open default font 'fixed' |
| 12:21.52 | dj-death | I dont understand this error |
| 12:22.01 | Bor_Ed | you got xfs installed? |
| 12:22.04 | dj-death | hmm |
| 12:22.11 | dj-death | let's check |
| 12:22.24 | dj-death | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 12:22.24 | dj-death | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.24 | dj-death | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.29 | dj-death | aaahh |
| 12:22.43 | Bor_Ed | looks like the cause |
| 12:22.48 | dj-death | ok |
| 12:23.47 | dj-death | strange |
| 12:23.59 | dj-death | both libfs6 and libxfont1 are installed |
| 12:24.54 | dj-death | Bor_Ed: xfs is required ? |
| 12:24.59 | Bor_Ed | naa |
| 12:25.05 | dj-death | Bor_Ed: I did not use it before |
| 12:25.24 | Bor_Ed | I have never used it |
| 12:25.55 | dj-death | so what the problem ? |
| 12:26.15 | Bor_Ed | hmm, could be that you don't have the fonts installed |
| 12:27.52 | Bor_Ed | install xfonts-base or such package to get the fixed font |
| 12:28.30 | pahartik | dj-death: is "xfonts-base" package installed? version "1:1.0.0-3"? |
| 12:28.48 | dj-death | pahartik: yes |
| 12:28.58 | dj-death | 1.0.0-3 |
| 12:29.16 | dj-death | pahartik: is there someone else I can check ? |
| 12:30.11 | dj-death | xfonts-base-transcoded 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 |
| 12:30.17 | dj-death | could it be a problem ? |
| 12:31.34 | pahartik | dj-death: I can try to install "xserver-xorg 1:7.0.11" on PowerMacintosh 5500... does not much matter right now if X11 server is broken on that or not... |
| 12:32.08 | Bor_Ed | ii xserver-xorg 7.0.11 the X.Org X server |
| 12:32.14 | Bor_Ed | I'll restart the X to see here |
| 12:32.33 | dj-death | ii xserver-xorg 7.0.11 the X.Org X server |
| 12:32.33 | dj-death | ii xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-4 X.Org X server -- core server |
| 12:32.33 | dj-death | ii xserver-xorg 7.0.11 the X.Org X server |
| 12:32.33 | dj-death | ii xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-4 X.Org X server -- core server |
| 12:32.35 | dj-death | oups |
| 12:33.05 | pahartik | dj-death: you probably should just resolve package dependencies to get things running again |
| 12:34.47 | dj-death | hmm |
| 12:35.04 | dj-death | there is no broken dependencies |
| 12:35.10 | dj-death | except for xfs |
| 12:35.20 | dj-death | but I never use it on this box |
| 12:36.02 | pahartik | dj-death: "The following packages have unmet dependencies" is not message about unresolved dependencies? |
| 12:37.21 | dj-death | I got this when apt-get install xfs |
| 12:40.29 | pahartik | dj-death: show your "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" |
| 12:41.52 | dj-death | have a look at http://djdeath.dyndns.org/~djdeath/ |
| 12:45.07 | Bor_Ed | yup, it's bombed indeed |
| 12:48.09 | dj-death | ? |
| 12:48.18 | dj-death | pahartik: any idea ? |
| 12:57.26 | Bor_Ed | dj-death: installed xserver-xorg-video-all and -input-all ? |
| 12:57.52 | pahartik | dj-death: maybe it would help if you tried to "dpkg-reconfigure" X11 server and font packages... |
| 13:09.41 | Bor_Ed | back on X :) |
| 13:12.19 | dj-death | Bor_Ed: yep |
| 13:12.22 | dj-death | both installed |
| 13:12.34 | dj-death | pahartik: ok |
| 13:12.54 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I got back to X after installing those 2 |
| 13:15.06 | Bor_Ed | weird though that my 2.6 kernel didn't want to load X, now I have to get a fresh one |
| 13:19.34 | dj-death | pahartik: no effect |
| 13:31.58 | dj-death | YES ! |
| 13:32.02 | dj-death | it works |
| 13:32.08 | dj-death | thx guys |
| 13:32.16 | Bor_Ed | what was the cure? |
| 13:33.10 | dj-death | my xorg.conf seems broken |
| 13:33.20 | dj-death | a default one works |
| 13:33.35 | Bor_Ed | I had to do it again on dpkg-reconfigure, it added some new stuff to screen |
| 13:34.24 | dj-death | this line solve a lot of things : |
| 13:34.24 | dj-death | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.05 | pahartik | dj-death: I am still working on getting latest X11 server installed, seems to require some persistent poking to satisfy dependencies around here |
| 13:35.30 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: didn't whine from a single dep here... sid with decently fresh upgrade |
| 13:36.34 | _rene_ | (three times "g" in aptitude did the right thing) |
| 13:36.35 | dj-death | keyboard driver has changed his name |
| 13:37.03 | _rene_ | s/and a/and b) a/ |
| 13:39.22 | _rene_ | dj-death: yes, thought that after I didn't have s, w, x, j etc ;-) |
| 13:42.32 | dj-death | and change /usr/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts/X11 |
| 13:43.38 | _rene_ | jup, as already said :) |
| 13:45.21 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: I have told "APT" to not upgrade anything to "sid" version unless I request it to |
| 13:45.33 | Bor_Ed | right |
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| 13:46.52 | dj-death | back ! |
| 13:47.01 | dj-death | it seems xinit does not work :( |
| 13:47.39 | dj-death | X is starting twm ... |
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| 14:21.42 | felicitas | rehallo |
| 14:44.02 | felicitas | does anyone know any nice apt-sources lists for the extras(ocodecs(usw)? for debian-ppc testing |
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| 15:26.06 | MeisterTom | what extras? |
| 15:30.37 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: fbdev works at least on beige g3 ati mach64 chip |
| 15:34.10 | felicitas | its working |
| 15:34.13 | felicitas | voip |
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| 15:41.30 | felicitas | re |
| 15:41.45 | felicitas | marculic my voip works |
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| 17:15.22 | pdr- | hi all |
| 17:16.32 | pdr- | I need some help setting up debian in my powerbook 12" |
| 17:21.29 | Bor_Ed | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6404482880.html |
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| 20:15.11 | mrwick | anyone else here who is running unstable have recent xorg problems? |
| 20:15.33 | Bor_Ed | not anymore :) |
| 20:15.44 | Bor_Ed | got xorg 7.0 running just fine today |
| 20:23.18 | _rene_ | I had two minor ones, quickly fixed |
| 20:25.39 | Bor_Ed | required some work here... nothing unmanageable though |
| 20:28.58 | Bor_Ed | "Do you run the console mode of Linux? Or do you run the X/Windows interface? The reason I ask, is supposedly the X/Win software should be able to use the Win32 based drivers, or so I have heard..." aww buggr :o |
| 20:31.06 | Curalton | huh? |
| 20:31.42 | Bor_Ed | picked from a site that has hel*desking on linux media drivers |
| 20:32.31 | Curalton | ah, ic |
| 20:33.35 | Bor_Ed | seems like it's yet another trial&error rundown |
| 20:35.17 | Bor_Ed | buggr device hooks up to cpia_usb but doesn't want to play nice with it |
| 20:38.11 | Curalton | ah, fun with usb equipment |
| 20:38.40 | Bor_Ed | yup... first device that gives me headache :/ |
| 20:38.59 | Curalton | while i can see the filelist on my motorola cellphone, all kinds of wierd sys data, i cant get to the photos taken with the builtin cam |
| 20:41.13 | pahartik | Curalton: just run "obexserver" on workstation and tell telephone to send those images over Bluetooth... |
| 20:42.11 | Bor_Ed | buggr cam seems to kick in with cpia_usb... just gqcam doesn't even know that and gnomemeeting has some still cam support |
| 20:44.39 | Curalton | for once bluetooth draws battery power and a more limiting factor is the lack of any blutooth reciever :) |
| 20:44.53 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: "ekiga" supposedly supports DV cameras on IEEE-1394 and toy cameras on USB... |
| 20:45.15 | Bor_Ed | doesn't show up on apt |
| 20:46.12 | Bor_Ed | gnomemeeting has saved me for now on HW support, though even it did puke on live cam :I |
| 20:46.38 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/ |
| 20:46.49 | Bor_Ed | yea, supports the thingy |
| 20:47.31 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: that was reference to Ekiga |
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| 20:49.07 | Bor_Ed | ekiga being? |
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| 20:50.43 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: "Ekiga is a SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP Telephony, and Video Conferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP or H.323 hardware and software." |
| 20:51.08 | Bor_Ed | pahartik: ahh, I have ohphone for voip :) |
| 20:51.33 | pahartik | Bor_Ed: http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0&faqpage=index.html#AEN10 |
| 20:53.07 | Bor_Ed | I see... |
| 20:54.43 | Bor_Ed | I have linphone too here waiting for a fresh mic... though the cam was a quick&dirty |
| 20:54.51 | Bor_Ed | 'if it'd work' test |
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| 21:28.36 | paulproteus|lapt | Anyone have a 2.6.17rc1 kernel image? |
| 21:28.38 | paulproteus|lapt | Or a working config? |
| 21:28.56 | paulproteus|lapt | I'm trying to compile it, and I've applied the patch on the mailing list that makes it boot, but my keyboard and mouse don't work on my ibook g4. |
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| 21:44.59 | paulproteus|lapt | That is to say, I've compiled and booted it, but no keyboard or mouse love. |
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| 22:54.10 | simonrvn | i stick to the dot ones, they tend to be more stable |
| 22:54.24 | simonrvn | the rcs you're just asking for trouble |
| 22:54.47 | paulproteus|lapt | simonrvn, Yeah, but I want a newer bcm43xx. (-: |
| 22:55.40 | _rene_ | you'd get one if the standalone snapshots arctually would be usable... |
| 22:56.09 | _rene_ | but as 2.6.17 has the driver in it I just gave up trying to update the package |
| 22:56.48 | simonrvn | oh, it got added. nice |
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