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| 10:41.44 | blacking | hello all |
| 10:42.39 | blacking | is there anyone can support a lot how install a small ubuntu on my usb drive? tnx |
| 10:42.43 | blacking | ops debian |
| 10:43.03 | blacking | references or link are appreciate |
| 10:44.32 | blacking | please.. |
| 10:46.04 | stocksy | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179 |
| 10:47.32 | blacking | thanks |
| 10:49.54 | stocksy | is anybody in here running sid on an old world ppc mac? if so, which kernel version? |
| 11:09.52 | blacking | nope sorry |
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| 13:08.03 | tonix | hy guys, i would like to buy today an ibook g4 powerpc, but i'm still in doubt about that.... what do you think? thanks a lot! |
| 13:11.29 | pahartik | tonix: I have one, I like it |
| 13:12.39 | tonix | pahartik: does it work the airport? |
| 13:13.12 | tonix | the ppc kernel support will be still develeped in the future? |
| 13:13.40 | tonix | ...and my first doubt is... what about the applications compiled for ppc platform? |
| 13:14.23 | tonix | i mean, now with the intel core duo cpu, is it a good idea to buy an ibook ppc 'old style'? thanks! |
| 13:14.53 | tonix | ...or the ppc support will die in the future? |
| 13:15.04 | pahartik | tonix: "Airport" adapter supposedly works, "Airport Extreme" I do not know about... I use built-in Bluetooth 1.2 class 2 adapter for wireless communications |
| 13:15.18 | johill | I'm using ae at the moment :) |
| 13:18.56 | tonix | thanks you guys! |
| 13:20.30 | pahartik | johill: I have been looking around for possibilities on replacing built-in Bluetooth adapter with Bluetooth 2.0 class 1 device, but I am not confident enough to open iBook G4 yet... especially as new ones are not available anymore |
| 13:21.05 | johill | on my powerbook, the internal thingie is just a usb dongle |
| 13:21.18 | johill | not sure how it is hooked up though, probably not a real plug :) |
| 13:22.28 | pahartik | johill: I have seen document at "http://slicedapple.ath.cx/ibookupgrades.html"... |
| 13:23.57 | johill | no. interesting |
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| 13:29.46 | fulldisclosure | Buenas. |
| 13:29.48 | fulldisclosure | Hi. |
| 13:30.09 | fulldisclosure | Since I upgraded my sid I am experiencing problems with sound... |
| 13:30.13 | fulldisclosure | For example: |
| 13:30.14 | fulldisclosure | alberto@debian:~$ alsamixer |
| 13:30.14 | fulldisclosure | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 13:30.14 | fulldisclosure | alberto@debian:~$ |
| 13:30.20 | fulldisclosure | Indeed, I can't play any sound, |
| 13:30.55 | johill | # modprobe snd-powermac |
| 13:31.38 | fulldisclosure | I can't load modules... O |
| 13:32.12 | johill | I have a hard time believing that |
| 13:32.44 | fulldisclosure | Is allready loaded... |
| 13:32.51 | johill | oh |
| 13:32.57 | johill | well what does it say during load then? |
| 13:33.03 | fulldisclosure | Nothing |
| 13:33.15 | johill | sure it says something |
| 13:33.26 | fulldisclosure | No, believe me... |
| 13:34.07 | johill | what do you have in /proc/asound? |
| 13:44.36 | fulldisclosure | root@debian:/home/alberto# cat /proc/asound/ |
| 13:44.37 | fulldisclosure | card0/ cards devices modules oss/ pcm seq/ timers version |
| 13:46.01 | johill | huh |
| 13:46.02 | johill | that's odd |
| 13:46.08 | johill | why is there no symlink to card0? |
| 13:46.57 | johill | what kind of machine do you have? |
| 13:47.08 | fulldisclosure | iBook G3 900mhz 12" |
| 13:48.25 | johill | m. no idea then |
| 13:49.00 | fulldisclosure | neither me |
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| 13:52.25 | cfh | hi all, i have just install ibm-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0_powerpc and it works great but i have some problem with the plugin for firefox or konqueror |
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| 14:01.41 | cfh | what is the best plugin for browser for java ? |
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| 15:30.19 | blacking | hello all |
| 15:30.52 | blacking | anyone here had install a minimal debian on usb external drive for ppc? |
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| 16:42.18 | jwest- | hi |
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| 18:17.32 | devazion | Hi, when typing "route"... How long does it take until you get the list of routes? (mine taks like 30 sec :S) |
| 18:18.01 | Bor_Ed | depends on how buggered the table is |
| 18:18.14 | devazion | it's just standard routing table |
| 18:18.21 | devazion | (i am still having routing problem) |
| 18:18.27 | devazion | now i got a cd and i am running official sarge install |
| 18:18.34 | devazion | it still doesnt help =/ same problem |
| 18:19.03 | Bor_Ed | hmm, you're using ftp.se.debian.org to install? |
| 18:19.11 | devazion | doesnt matter what server i use |
| 18:19.15 | devazion | i cannot even wget files |
| 18:19.25 | devazion | and my #route takes me minutes to show |
| 18:19.52 | Bor_Ed | do you have dhcp ip from own server or from isp? |
| 18:20.01 | devazion | from my router :) |
| 18:20.09 | devazion | i have two computers in this network + router |
| 18:20.14 | devazion | the dhcp works correctly |
| 18:20.17 | devazion | its the mac that struggles |
| 18:20.28 | Bor_Ed | use static ip then on the box you're installing... |
| 18:20.32 | devazion | i have tried that too |
| 18:20.56 | Bor_Ed | lan ip, lan netmask, lan gateway and public nameserver should do |
| 18:22.05 | devazion | it's all correct |
| 18:22.16 | devazion | just that it doesnt route the connnection |
| 18:22.41 | Bor_Ed | hmm, yesterdays spells still don't work? |
| 18:23.55 | devazion | two problems: |
| 18:23.56 | devazion | 1) |
| 18:24.11 | devazion | no routing that works (it's configured correctly, manual or dhcp doesnt matter) |
| 18:24.14 | devazion | 2) |
| 18:24.18 | devazion | not beeing able to boot |
| 18:24.23 | devazion | how does your partition scheme look? |
| 18:24.41 | pahartik | devazion: "netstat -nr" |
| 18:24.59 | Bor_Ed | I have oldworld so partitions are different |
| 18:25.47 | devazion | arf |
| 18:25.57 | devazion | anyone with newworld around? |
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| 18:27.09 | pahartik | devazion: your first problem, "takes 30 seconds for routing information to show up", sounds exactly like timeout in DNS query |
| 18:27.49 | Bor_Ed | that's been my guess all along too |
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| 18:29.35 | devazion | pahartik: ah, ok. but the dns information is just as on this pc... the same, and works fine here i must say |
| 18:30.04 | Bor_Ed | hmm, you wouldn't happen to have a-link router? |
| 18:31.23 | devazion | netgear, or what do you mean with a -link? |
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| 18:31.36 | devazion | there is nothing wrong with my router... if i plug in my laptor it works |
| 18:31.36 | Bor_Ed | manufacturer |
| 18:31.45 | devazion | laptop* |
| 18:32.12 | Bor_Ed | windoof works on a-link too, mockos and linux require external dns server as nameserver though for some reason |
| 18:34.46 | devazion | i've been using 3 different linux/bsd boxes on this router :) |
| 18:34.48 | devazion | all worked fine |
| 18:34.56 | devazion | same settings |
| 18:35.57 | devazion | anyone with newworld that would mind to copy partition scheme? |
| 18:42.42 | Corsac | yeah |
| 18:42.57 | Corsac | wait a minute I boot my g3 |
| 18:45.26 | devazion | thx |
| 18:46.22 | Corsac | you want a "p" in fdisk, right ? |
| 18:47.09 | pahartik | devazion: old and new: "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/disktype-kiara", "http://pahartik.iki.fi/~pahartik/kiara-disktype" |
| 18:48.16 | devazion | ah nice |
| 18:49.17 | devazion | i will have to turn this pc off, somehow i slipped my test drive into it |
| 18:49.20 | devazion | i'll be back soon :) thx |
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| 19:11.30 | devazion | Hello again... |
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| 19:33.38 | devazion | ehm, i somehow got an sarge install running without the net, the whole install went well, instead i ended up with no keyboard... |
| 19:33.54 | devazion | i'm considering giving up this soon and install os 8.6 :/ |
| 19:34.55 | Corsac | oldworld ? |
| 19:37.06 | devazion | newworld g3 333mhz bluewhite |
| 19:38.28 | devazion | the debian installer cannot create the 32.3kb big partition in the beginning (since its not on the list) if i dont use auto partitioning... but if i do, i remove my 150gb big media partition (noway!)... i put back the 1.3gb disk inside and installed sarge successfully but ended up with no keyboard |
| 19:39.03 | Corsac | you can't create it manually ? |
| 19:39.17 | devazion | nope, it will end up 8.3mb big or something like that |
| 19:39.21 | devazion | impossible to make it smaller |
| 19:39.46 | devazion | only auto partitioner can do that for me |
| 19:39.51 | devazion | (duh) |
| 19:40.07 | devazion | i tried etch too, same thing there! it's MADE for autopartitioning... |
| 19:43.55 | devazion | since the debian installer cannot do what i need it too i guess i'll have to look elsewere for something different |
| 19:43.57 | devazion | cheers |
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| 20:59.52 | _rene_ | devazion: sorry, but that's bullshit |
| 21:00.01 | _rene_ | devazion: you can choose "manual partitioning" |
| 21:00.42 | _rene_ | devazion: with which you *can* do partitions as you want |
| 21:00.58 | _rene_ | (and which are physically possible of course) |
| 21:01.21 | devazion | _rene_: sorry dude, it's true i CAN do that. but i CANNOT create the 32.3kb big partition needed with any of the tools on the cd not mac-fdisk nor the manual partitioner inside debian installer... its impossible to do it since its not availble |
| 21:02.03 | _rene_ | apple bootstrap? |
| 21:02.06 | _rene_ | af course you can |
| 21:02.12 | _rene_ | just choose apple bootstrap |
| 21:02.17 | devazion | isnt on the list |
| 21:02.28 | devazion | not on the etch or the sarge cd |
| 21:02.31 | _rene_ | as you said it's a newworld it should work |
| 21:02.41 | _rene_ | devazion: sorry, that so completely not true... |
| 21:02.49 | _rene_ | devazion: I did my initial ibook install with sarge dvds |
| 21:02.54 | devazion | would you like to ssh me? -.- |
| 21:03.00 | _rene_ | devazion: so obviously you are wrong |
| 21:03.27 | devazion | did you use the mac-fdisk tool? |
| 21:03.36 | devazion | or the "manual" partitioner inside installer? |
| 21:03.40 | _rene_ | no, parted of course. |
| 21:03.52 | devazion | parted is not on my net install cd |
| 21:03.55 | _rene_ | which you should do when you use d-i anyway |
| 21:04.02 | _rene_ | devazion: that's not true also. |
| 21:04.10 | devazion | i will check again then |
| 21:22.03 | devazion | it seems parted was loaded during the install. not before |
| 21:22.04 | devazion | thanks |
| 21:22.23 | devazion | what does your parted p command print? i sort of need advice on the yaboot partition |
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| 21:27.11 | devazion | rofl, doing mklabel mac in parted removed my 150gb media partition with all my homework, music, home videos and stuff without note and wrote it to the partition table direclty.. thx parted :) you made my day |
| 21:27.20 | devazion | now i will go shoot myself in the head, bye |
| 21:35.48 | pahartik | devazion: you are trying to learn how to use various partitioning utilities by experimenting, on storage device that contains important data? |
| 21:37.18 | devazion | pahartik: my experience before using parted: all partition editors confirms data loss before it happends or confirms writing over all ... i set up the changes and then commit them. yep i was experimenting with important data i guess |
| 21:42.30 | pahartik | devazion: filesystem is not lost as long as one does not write anything over it |
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