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| 00:01.29 | ohad | pahartik, i have tried |
| 00:01.34 | ohad | debian works fine |
| 00:01.39 | ohad | but the x11 |
| 00:01.40 | ohad | does not |
| 00:02.14 | ohad | pahartik, i was told that ati 9200 is radeon driver. when i try to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i don't have that driver on my list |
| 00:02.23 | ohad | any ideas how to add that one? |
| 00:02.46 | ohad | i tried search for any pkgs of radeon driver but couldn't find anything that will fit |
| 00:04.13 | witch | Hi! |
| 00:04.17 | pahartik | ohad: Device section of my "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" has Driver "ati"... |
| 00:04.31 | ohad | i tried that |
| 00:04.42 | witch | Did anybody use autofs on large mac partitioned disks? |
| 00:05.04 | ohad | for some reason i dont' have the option of running startx and when i try to start gdm the machine gets stuck |
| 00:06.01 | witch | I cannot mout sda11 and if I try to mount sda10 as user, it tells me, I have no rights |
| 00:06.16 | witch | sda11 is xfs and 10 hpfsplus |
| 00:07.11 | witch | ohad: to use startx as user, you need to dpkg-reconfigure x |
| 00:08.59 | witch | ohad: which machine? |
| 00:09.48 | witch | on my mac mini I have "radeon" as driver |
| 00:10.35 | pahartik | ohad: if newer version of "xserver-xorg" package is not available, try older version from... there was some Debian archive site that contains lots of older package versions |
| 00:12.10 | pahartik | ohad: could also see if your "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" contains something useful... |
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| 00:15.05 | ohad | pahartik, ok. i am trying again.. should i try and let it auto detect the video hardware? |
| 00:15.53 | pahartik | ohad: I think so |
| 00:18.05 | ohad | ok. i have ati RV350 mobility radeon 9600 M10 - which one should i choose from the list? |
| 00:18.08 | ohad | ati? |
| 00:18.12 | ohad | i don't have radeon |
| 00:18.30 | ohad | pahartik, or nv? |
| 00:19.46 | pahartik | ohad: I am not aware of any Radeon produced by NVidia... |
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| 05:50.01 | ohad | hi, i have just upgraded from 2.6.15-1 to 2.6.15-7 . in my boot loader ( i am not sure which one i'm using - i think yanta or something like that) i only have the options of Linux and Old. when i choose Linux option i get my old 2.6.15-1 kernel. how do i choose the new one that i chose? |
| 05:50.42 | tcsetattr | you mean _yaboot_? |
| 05:51.16 | tcsetattr | I think yanta is some kind of fruit drink |
| 05:51.45 | ohad | Aheh.. yes. yaboot.. |
| 05:51.57 | ohad | how do i insert the new kernel as an option there? |
| 05:53.08 | tcsetattr | by editing yaboot.conf, I suppose |
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| 06:10.51 | ohad_ | hi, i am trying to get the x11 (xserver-xorg) mod to work on my new pb g41.67. |
| 06:10.53 | SimonRaven | fixing symlinks |
| 06:11.09 | ohad_ | for some reason everytime i try the entire machine freezes |
| 06:11.21 | ohad_ | i don't have in my list of drivers the radeon |
| 06:11.33 | ohad_ | only ati |
| 06:11.59 | ohad_ | my card ati 9200 |
| 06:12.09 | ohad_ | anyone here |
| 06:12.10 | ohad_ | ? |
| 06:12.15 | SimonRaven | radeon is a subset of the ati x driver |
| 06:13.04 | SimonRaven | so it locks up when x starts? |
| 06:14.07 | ohad_ | also i've upgraded my linux from 2.6.15-1 to 2.6.15-7 - how do i choose at boot from 2.6.15-1 to 2.6.15-7 - how do i modify yaboot? |
| 06:14.31 | tcsetattr | look into /etc/yaboot.conf |
| 06:14.56 | ohad_ | SimonRaven: yes. i have tried different conf. and nothing worked...linux boots but always hangs when starts xdm/gdm/kdm... |
| 06:15.20 | SimonRaven | when you installed the kernel it should have done that for you, at least modifying the symlinks. editing yaboot.conf (and running ybin if necessary) is your job :) |
| 06:15.46 | tcsetattr | yeah, look to see if there's a /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old symlink |
| 06:15.52 | SimonRaven | remove those or prevent them from running first, you won't get much done with those starting at boot |
| 06:16.11 | SimonRaven | @tell ohad_ -about nodm |
| 06:16.28 | ohad_ | what about my laptop freezing because of x11 ? xorg.conf |
| 06:16.52 | SimonRaven | that's what i meant by "remove those or prevent them..." |
| 06:17.33 | ohad_ | i'll remove all of them. sure |
| 06:18.09 | ohad_ | what else should i do. if i remove them then i get to prompt but i still get a stuck machine when i run startx |
| 06:18.11 | tcsetattr | you could look at the X server log to see if managed to write anything before the freeze |
| 06:18.16 | SimonRaven | the bot was telling you how to do all that |
| 06:18.25 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 06:19.56 | ohad_ | anything else? |
| 06:20.21 | ohad_ | i should do. or just remove those pkgs and run the echo cmd? |
| 06:20.31 | SimonRaven | see your system logs for pointers, too. /var/log/syslog kern.log messages |
| 06:20.38 | SimonRaven | up to you |
| 06:23.11 | ohad_ | ok |
| 06:23.19 | ohad_ | i'll be back:) |
| 06:23.20 | ohad_ | thx |
| 06:24.19 | SimonRaven | ircing as root? eek i didn't notice ... |
| 06:36.52 | hexley | nither did the bird |
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| 06:54.41 | ohad | hi, still freezes |
| 06:55.03 | ohad | there were no errors only warnings in the x11 logs |
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| 07:07.24 | ohad | hi, anyone here? |
| 07:07.38 | ohad | i am still having problem with the machine freezing |
| 07:07.44 | ohad | when i try to run x |
| 07:07.51 | ohad | or startx |
| 07:08.07 | ohad | can i try to run x without x-window-system? |
| 07:08.19 | ohad | that pkg is tied to xdm |
| 07:08.27 | ohad | anyone? |
| 07:10.39 | ohad | no one? |
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| 07:59.36 | SimonRaven | assassin: the bird /msgs people when it does notice; and doesn't announce it in-channel, that part was disabled... hmm, that should be configurable... |
| 08:14.20 | assassin | SimonRaven: Used to autokick |
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| 08:17.31 | SimonRaven | can if it has ops, but not required |
| 08:18.16 | SimonRaven | in this chan usually chanserv kicks them and sets a ban |
| 08:18.32 | SimonRaven | i guess sourdough removed the setting |
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| 08:30.31 | assassin | Ah... nice fnode |
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| 09:22.36 | speedydemon | good morning |
| 09:23.12 | speedydemon | hmm right... ill be on later |
| 09:23.15 | speedydemon | afk :D |
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| 13:19.41 | TTimo | hello |
| 13:19.48 | TTimo | anyone running a 2.6.16-rc5 ? |
| 13:19.54 | TTimo | or trying to for that matter |
| 13:24.16 | TTimo | compiled it and all, but yaboot gives me a 'read failed' when I try to boot it |
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| 16:24.27 | speedydemon | hello again |
| 16:35.04 | speedydemon | quite a dead channel *sigh* |
| 16:36.34 | Bor_Ed | yup yup |
| 16:37.41 | speedydemon | hey there |
| 16:38.13 | speedydemon | i was just bored. ive been here before under other names. well hey there :) |
| 16:38.25 | speedydemon | who else is awake!? |
| 16:39.57 | speedydemon | I haven't done my kernel in a while :S. erm i got it all like I KNOW it needs to be except one thing. What IDE controller would I chose for a G4 Mac Mini? (Erm, lspci is vague) |
| 16:41.04 | speedydemon | the thing is, it's mostly notebook parts. So I guessed PowerBook ATA/100 IDE. Dmesg reports that it's an ATA/100 IDE. So we'll see. |
| 16:41.28 | speedydemon | waiting for dpkg to get to business |
| 16:42.16 | Bor_Ed | send me one g4 macmini and I'll try to find out... mac store only sells wintels nowadays |
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| 17:01.09 | speedydemon | heh got it |
| 17:01.41 | speedydemon | Bor_Ed, i was missing the right fs driver built-in ironically. booted fine. forgot i was using ext3 on there xD |
| 17:01.49 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 17:02.16 | speedydemon | i dont care what the hype makes them think. this box kicks ass. quite more snappy then even my 2.8 p4 with nothing running atall |
| 17:02.23 | speedydemon | =/ |
| 17:02.54 | Bor_Ed | this 315MHz ibm750 is faster than 500MHz k6-2 too... does its work to me |
| 17:02.56 | speedydemon | oh well |
| 17:03.03 | speedydemon | yep i have it, im using it :) |
| 17:03.28 | speedydemon | for work im getting a new intel mac in a few months. this box will serve me as a nice debian development box :D |
| 17:04.06 | speedydemon | personal expense unfortunately, couldnt wait. now im screwed. apple doesnt have tradeins really. |
| 17:04.37 | Bor_Ed | intel mac? aww geebus |
| 17:04.59 | speedydemon | see im a ppc buf. but the standard apple gets 6 years support. in an effort to shake off ibm, theyre trying to kill off ppc as quick as possible. as i read on a debian ppc howto: "x86 kills another architecture" |
| 17:05.09 | speedydemon | I know bor ed. im not paying for it heh |
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| 17:05.27 | Bor_Ed | stil... |
| 17:05.30 | speedydemon | i know |
| 17:05.34 | speedydemon | i hate it too |
| 17:05.43 | Bor_Ed | that's like shooting yourself to a leg |
| 17:06.02 | speedydemon | risc is just so much better. funny thing is ibm is breaking the 4ghz barrier while intel had to go multiple cores because they couldn't break it efficiently |
| 17:06.43 | speedydemon | "cooling" - apple gimme a break. PPC omits less heat, dumba$$es |
| 17:06.50 | Bor_Ed | well, cell ain't general use processor anyway |
| 17:07.07 | Bor_Ed | and 970mp just runs at ~3GHz |
| 17:07.09 | speedydemon | they couldnt WAIT for the new line of CPUs. just had to feed their GHz indulgence |
| 17:07.22 | speedydemon | GHz hype =/ |
| 17:07.42 | Bor_Ed | though I dont' think there are too many x86/x86_64 boxen that can kick butt on ibm970mp/2GHz |
| 17:07.43 | speedydemon | 1.5GHz PPC32 G4 beats my 2.8 P4 at most benchmarks. |
| 17:07.45 | speedydemon | erm yeah |
| 17:07.56 | speedydemon | and it's 99% laptop parts HA |
| 17:08.45 | speedydemon | IBM ThinkCentre A30 2.8GHz P4 (Non-HT, HT Actually Slows Down Things), 768MB DDR. Has more ram, double the clock nearly, this thing whoops it |
| 17:09.04 | speedydemon | anywho time to test my hopefully non foobar kernel |
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| 17:09.30 | speedydemon | got this running in screen on my server, so no bother having to reconnect or any of that junk yay |
| 17:09.33 | speedydemon | brb |
| 17:09.38 | Bor_Ed | really doesn't suprise... too bad there aren't too many risc lappie manufacturers around... tadpole makes sparcs but then the next step is xscale and arm based pdasa |
| 17:12.40 | speedydemon | back |
| 17:13.06 | speedydemon | erm the comparison is a full blown desktop. |
| 17:13.22 | speedydemon | yay kernel works. even using the airport extreme bcm driver |
| 17:13.31 | speedydemon | >_> |
| 17:13.37 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 17:13.42 | speedydemon | isnt full speed but hey IT WORKS! |
| 17:13.45 | speedydemon | finally |
| 17:13.46 | speedydemon | =/ |
| 17:14.13 | Bor_Ed | the airport ain't full speed? |
| 17:14.15 | speedydemon | had to patch 2.6.16 over 2.6.15 then apply the bcm patch and install softmac 802.11b stack (in kernel). works |
| 17:14.57 | speedydemon | nope because broadcom is a proprietary chipset. this driver is clean house design, legal. uses specications made from dissassemling the original darwin drivers and linksys wrt54g router firmware |
| 17:15.19 | speedydemon | the air force uses the chipset, so even if broadcom wanted or apple asked, they wouldnt release the specs |
| 17:15.20 | Bor_Ed | yea |
| 17:15.33 | speedydemon | it even supports wep though. with the other version wpa also |
| 17:15.34 | Bor_Ed | I know the story behind the AE |
| 17:15.36 | speedydemon | =/ |
| 17:15.42 | speedydemon | alright well it works now |
| 17:16.13 | speedydemon | nice chatting with you btw |
| 17:16.17 | speedydemon | ill be on some other time |
| 17:16.21 | Bor_Ed | I'd just pick up some 108Mbps usb stick for wifi :) |
| 17:16.26 | speedydemon | no money here |
| 17:16.27 | speedydemon | =/ |
| 17:16.33 | Bor_Ed | ~30 euros... |
| 17:16.50 | speedydemon | 0 euros |
| 17:16.51 | speedydemon | << |
| 17:17.12 | speedydemon | take care Bor_Ed |
| 17:17.19 | Bor_Ed | always |
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| 18:34.21 | wooden | hi |
| 18:34.34 | wooden | how to get java for ppc? |
| 18:35.16 | wooden | need the plugins for browser |
| 18:35.53 | Bor_Ed | get/install ibm jre 1.5 and gcjwebplugin |
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| 19:12.33 | Bor_Ed | http://www.mathcaddy.com/windowsxpbootsonamac!!!!1/ |
| 19:13.00 | marculix | chchch |
| 19:13.04 | marculix | lol |
| 19:13.30 | Bor_Ed | irc is fun place to live in... all kinda nice links show up |
| 19:16.24 | avar | haha |
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