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| 00:54.34 | Buddha| | Things keep getting selected in the menu when my mouse hovers over them for a couple seconds. Any idea why this happens? |
| 01:05.01 | Buddha| | Okay, I figured out the *real* problem. I have a 2004 iBook, and double-tapping on the touchpad acts like a double-click. How do I turn that off? |
| 01:05.20 | SimonRaven | trackpad notap |
| 01:11.02 | ottoaim | powerprefs might be useful for you |
| 01:11.12 | ottoaim | it's a package with a bunch of prefs |
| 01:11.29 | Buddha| | I grabbed 'powerpc-utils' |
| 01:11.32 | Buddha| | thanks |
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| 05:00.16 | capthowdy | can someone help me with my modem? |
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| 05:42.12 | rcy | can anyone recommend a usb wireless device to buy or stay away from? |
| 05:42.28 | rcy | or will that stuff generally just work under debian? |
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| 07:03.05 | SimonRaven | rcy: google linux debian ppc usb wifi, or go to linux-laptops.net or similar sites |
| 07:03.49 | Coutal | hey Simon |
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| 07:04.40 | Coutal | i just found out that the dsp programming routine gets called with every resolution change. it means that i can't just override the dsp values, but i have to put the old calculation routine entirely for resolutions other than 640x480-60 to work. |
| 07:04.42 | Coutal | :( |
| 07:06.31 | SimonRaven | ick |
| 07:06.39 | SimonRaven | :| |
| 07:08.17 | Coutal | and the worst thing - his formula *is* right. it works with quik. i have no idea why it won't work with bootx, unless i manage to compare all the PLL registers. but i can't do that because my machine just won't boot with quik. |
| 07:08.39 | Coutal | i need to work with someone that can quik-boot his machine and then i will be able to solve this once and for all. |
| 07:10.03 | SimonRaven | with same machine i assume |
| 07:10.32 | Coutal | not necessarily |
| 07:10.46 | Coutal | well, one that has a mach64 that exhibits the problem, but not precisely mine. |
| 07:11.26 | SimonRaven | same kind, i meant ;) |
| 07:12.10 | Coutal | yes but it is somewhat comforting that i don't need the exact same model and thrice the work. |
| 07:14.41 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 07:15.07 | Coutal | so right now it's just me, Bor_Ed and pahartik. and Bor_Ed can't get his machine to properly boot quik. |
| 07:15.51 | SimonRaven | i don't have a beige g3 |
| 07:16.26 | Coutal | maybe i'll just send an e-mail to linuxppc-dev or something. |
| 07:16.46 | SimonRaven | yeh, maybe debian-powerpc too |
| 07:17.01 | Coutal | i'll try my luck with debian-powerpc first |
| 07:22.14 | Coutal | wait, how does Bor_Ed know that the distortion doesn't happen with quik, if he hadn't got it to boot? |
| 07:27.56 | SimonRaven | *shrug* |
| 07:36.52 | Coutal | so i may have just made a fool of myself infront of a whole list :) |
| 07:37.47 | Coutal | oh well nevermind that :) |
| 07:37.53 | Coutal | i'm going to get ready for uni, bbl |
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| 14:44.39 | noahj | Hello |
| 14:47.55 | noahj | I have been trying to install debian on my old powermac G3, but when I put in the CD, set it as the startup disk, and hold down c on bootup, I get a little disk icon, then it boots up mac os (8.6) |
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| 14:50.30 | noahj | I tried the bootable floppy, but my mac ejects it on startup. |
| 14:52.16 | noahj | And I cannot seem to figure out how to boot from the hard disk. I copied yaboot, yaboot.conf, initrd.gz, initrd, and vmlinuz to the root of the hard drive, but when i press apple-o-f on bootup nothing happens |
| 14:57.22 | Corsac | do you know if splashy works under debian/ppc ? |
| 14:59.12 | johill_ | isn't splashy just userspace, and thus ought to work? |
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| 15:00.24 | Corsac | johill_: well, there is a gap between "should work" and "work" |
| 15:00.26 | Corsac | i'll test |
| 15:00.27 | Corsac | :) |
| 15:00.56 | Corsac | but 1st, removing PREEMPT from my kernel |
| 15:02.25 | johill | I know. I just don't see any obstructions besides maybe 'it has bugs' |
| 15:02.45 | johill | heh |
| 15:02.57 | Corsac | i was wondering if someone here has tested it :) |
| 15:03.20 | johill | I don't know. let me know if you do :) |
| 15:05.33 | Corsac | hmh, for preemption, what should I choose ? CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLONTARY ? |
| 15:05.39 | Corsac | or no preemption at all? |
| 15:05.51 | johill | none at all |
| 15:06.40 | Corsac | k |
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| 15:14.45 | jamestoy | come to freebsd-ppc if you are interested. |
| 15:16.32 | Bor_Ed | CoutAway: I get the quik to boot up to VFS: rootfs panic and the distortion doesn't happen... it comes up instantly from loading the kernel from bootx |
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| 15:17.11 | johill | jamestoy: not right now, but you'll probably be interested in the airport extreme stuff we're doing as well |
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| 16:49.42 | noahj | Does anyone have experience installing debianppc on a G3 powermac? |
| 16:50.39 | noahj | I can't seem to get it to boot off the cd. |
| 16:52.53 | pahartik | noahj: if it is "OldWorld", use BootX |
| 16:54.14 | noahj | its oldworld. bootx doesnt seem to install though, I downloaded the .sit file and it will not unstuff. |
| 16:55.54 | Bor_Ed | it requires couple of boot floppies from woody install |
| 16:56.00 | pahartik | noahj: yes, it requires newer "StuffIt Expander" |
| 16:56.08 | noahj | thanks |
| 16:56.14 | noahj | updating stuffit... |
| 16:56.51 | pahartik | noahj: however, i have got image that Disk Copy on traditional MacOS can mount... |
| 16:57.25 | noahj | Bor_Ed: I made a boot floppy out of the boot.img file in testing on the debian server... |
| 16:58.19 | noahj | it ejects on bootup |
| 16:58.37 | Bor_Ed | then try another floppy... the drive is _picky_ |
| 16:58.46 | pahartik | noahj: http://zazu.vip.fi/~pahartik/Macintosh/5400.img |
| 16:58.51 | noahj | Okay. thanks |
| 16:59.06 | noahj | pahartik: wait, is that a floppy image? |
| 16:59.59 | pahartik | noahj: it contains BootX and new StuffIt |
| 17:00.21 | noahj | thanks |
| 17:01.52 | pahartik | noahj: it contains BootX folder that can be just copied to harddisk... |
| 17:02.02 | noahj | Netscape communicator crashed again... |
| 17:02.14 | noahj | how do I use the image? |
| 17:02.46 | pahartik | noahj: run "Disk Copy" and drag image file to dialog it shows |
| 17:03.27 | noahj | Okay, thanks |
| 17:03.30 | pahartik | noahj: "Disk Copy" is available on MacOS install media |
| 17:03.51 | noahj | I have it, I used it to make a boot floppy (that did not work) |
| 17:05.13 | Bor_Ed | or a 8.x bootable floppy with bootx and extension :) |
| 17:05.31 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I recall SimonRaven has such on his site |
| 17:06.28 | noahj | Wow, so a 32mb (If I read correctly) image just for the bootloader? |
| 17:06.38 | noahj | That seems a little large... |
| 17:08.07 | pahartik | noahj: it contains other files too, as it was practical way to move executables to traditional MacOS |
| 17:09.06 | Corsac | mpf, forgot to patch kernel for fn-key >< |
| 17:09.41 | Corsac | and splashy doesnt seem to work on ppc |
| 17:10.01 | pahartik | noahj: i only have remote access to MacOS X hosts, so i constructed disk image to use after MacOS 8.5 install |
| 17:11.17 | noahj | you are lucky ;-) I can only stare in awe at Mac OS X. |
| 17:11.47 | noahj | I made OS 9 look like it, but still no CLI. |
| 17:12.24 | noahj | That is my real reason for putting linux on the mac, I cannot afford OSX. |
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| 17:13.51 | pahartik | noahj: Linux is good... |
| 17:15.24 | noahj | Debian is good... |
| 17:16.23 | noahj | I got the image. |
| 17:16.34 | noahj | Mounting... installing stuffit... |
| 17:17.53 | noahj | Now do I copy the rest of the files (and the bootX folder) to the hard drive? |
| 17:19.38 | noahj | Ah, good. read the Faq, says it goes in the extensions, control panel, and 'linux kernels' folder. |
| 17:20.48 | pahartik | noahj: upgrading StuffIt is not required for booting Linux, but copying BootX is good idea |
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| 17:22.15 | noahj | it says error; could not find a suitable kernel file. |
| 17:22.54 | noahj | Funny... I put the kernel file in the Linux Kernels directory... |
| 17:24.11 | noahj | Now trying the kernel off the debian CD... |
| 17:24.51 | noahj | Nope. |
| 17:25.15 | noahj | Trying to run the bootx app from control panels cant find a kernel. |
| 17:25.28 | pahartik | noahj: "vmlinux" and "initrd.gz" are needed... |
| 17:25.49 | noahj | I put both of those in a "Linux Kernels" folder in the root of the hard drive. |
| 17:26.05 | noahj | I got both of those files off the debian CD. |
| 17:26.20 | pahartik | noahj: within "BootX" folder or "System" is better |
| 17:26.29 | noahj | Okay, thanks. |
| 17:27.06 | noahj | its working! |
| 17:27.08 | noahj | -ish |
| 17:27.54 | noahj | How do I find out which device my hard drive is on? |
| 17:28.21 | noahj | Do I have to run through /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2, /dev/hdb1, ...? |
| 17:29.12 | pahartik | noahj: look at "dmesg" output at shell |
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| 17:30.10 | noahj | I cannot, for I get a kernel panic (and I know why) in yaboot, I know not which device is root. and so, therefore, It wil not boot. |
| 17:31.41 | pahartik | noahj: oh, you probably forgot to define location of "initrd.gz" when booting? |
| 17:32.26 | noahj | How do I do that? |
| 17:32.47 | noahj | As far as |
| 17:33.08 | noahj | I have gotten so far, I can get a framebuffer bootup, and then kernel panic. |
| 17:33.14 | pahartik | noahj: there is options dialog in BootX, enabling that option opens file selector |
| 17:33.24 | noahj | Okay, thanks |
| 17:36.14 | noahj | Yes! woo-hoo! a language selector! |
| 17:36.39 | noahj | Thank you so much for helping me! |
| 17:38.19 | pahartik | noahj: you are welcome |
| 17:39.42 | pahartik | noahj: i had to play with traditional MacOS and BootX just few days ago, to get PowerMacintosh 7300 up again after broken harddisk |
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| 17:42.36 | noahj | Pahartik: So that is how you know so much about PPC linux :-) |
| 17:52.22 | noahj | Now would it break if I delete the first 'apple' partition? how about the 'patch partition'? |
| 17:54.27 | noahj | Quik installation failed on /target/ it says. |
| 17:55.26 | noahj | Hermmm... the root is ext2... |
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| 18:00.21 | Bor_Ed | boot-device ide/disk@0,0:9 <<-- wth is that format about? |
| 18:00.48 | Bor_Ed | boot-device ide0/disk@0:0 |
| 18:00.59 | Bor_Ed | ^ is what I have here... can that be the prob? |
| 18:01.04 | noahj | Isn't that the apple boot partition? |
| 18:01.33 | Bor_Ed | no idea... at least quik loads with my setup, just the kernel pukes |
| 18:02.09 | noahj | Are you dual-booting? |
| 18:02.19 | Bor_Ed | currently unfortunatelyyes |
| 18:03.41 | noahj | Did you try doing a guided dual-boot partition? |
| 18:03.43 | pahartik | noahj: first 32 KiB partition contains partition table |
| 18:05.06 | noahj | Ah, okay. Quik still won't install, and if I click continue it says "Failed to resolve kernel symlink" |
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| 18:06.29 | noahj | If I go to a shell and link /dev/hda1 to symlink, do you think it will work? |
| 18:07.03 | Bor_Ed | could be |
| 18:07.41 | pahartik | noahj: i ended up installing "quik" manually at installer shell |
| 18:08.13 | noahj | Nope, did not work. |
| 18:08.20 | noahj | apt-get install quik? |
| 18:08.39 | pahartik | noahj: but that was probably because of having "/boot/" on separate filesystem |
| 18:09.11 | noahj | Okay, all my files are on one partition. should I make a /boot partition? |
| 18:10.07 | pahartik | noahj: mount filesystems if they are not mounted, "chroot /target /bin/bash" |
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| 18:11.03 | pahartik | noahj: "nano -w /etc/quik.conf" "quik -v" |
| 18:11.37 | DelTree | still no vfat in the iso of 11/11 |
| 18:11.59 | pahartik | noahj: i had "/boot/" on separate filesystem because i did not want "ext2" as "/" filesystem |
| 18:12.16 | noahj | That works? |
| 18:12.19 | noahj | cool. |
| 18:13.37 | pahartik | noahj: it required some extra steps, but works fine |
| 18:14.59 | pahartik | noahj: oh yes, "/proc" needs to be mounted after "chroot", before running "quik" |
| 18:15.28 | noahj | mounted as what? |
| 18:16.13 | noahj | Just mount /proc? |
| 18:16.24 | pahartik | noahj: "mount /proc" should be enough |
| 18:16.47 | noahj | Thanks |
| 18:17.48 | noahj | Wait, quik just randomly decided to work. |
| 18:19.47 | noahj | Okay, when I reboot I get just a black screen now. |
| 18:20.51 | Bor_Ed | do you get the boing? |
| 18:21.13 | pahartik | noahj: Open Firmware is probably waiting at serial port |
| 18:21.20 | noahj | I get the boing |
| 18:22.14 | Bor_Ed | then it is as pahartik said... |
| 18:22.35 | Bor_Ed | you can get the screen working with installer and changing output-device to screen and input-device to kbd |
| 18:23.28 | noahj | How? |
| 18:23.34 | Bor_Ed | with nvsetenv command |
| 18:23.55 | Bor_Ed | you could try setting up the output-device to /pci/ATY,mach64_3DU too |
| 18:23.55 | noahj | Okay, but I cannot see a thing. |
| 18:24.04 | Bor_Ed | reboot with the installer |
| 18:24.17 | Bor_Ed | or just type 'bye' and hit enter (without quotes) |
| 18:24.40 | noahj | I finished the installer, took the CD out, and then rebooted. |
| 18:24.54 | Bor_Ed | hmm, do you still have macos on the HD? |
| 18:25.28 | noahj | Nope. |
| 18:25.32 | Bor_Ed | mmmm |
| 18:25.41 | noahj | I trashed it, right? |
| 18:26.11 | Bor_Ed | well, hit ctrl+alt+power (reboots the box) and after the boing hit alt+apple+p+r and keep them down for 5 boings |
| 18:26.11 | noahj | Maybe if I can put it in the other mac as a secondary hard drive, then disk copy the stuff over... |
| 18:26.19 | noahj | Okay |
| 18:26.29 | Bor_Ed | this is beige g3, right? |
| 18:27.00 | noahj | When it had the case on, yeah. |
| 18:27.08 | noahj | alt is option, right? |
| 18:27.12 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 18:27.29 | Bor_Ed | I'm struggling with similar box here right now to get it completely standalone sys |
| 18:28.21 | noahj | Yes! thanks! its booted the grey screen! |
| 18:28.48 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 18:29.18 | Bor_Ed | you probably had wrong boot-device on the OF |
| 18:29.18 | noahj | So now I have a disk question mark, so I assume I need a bootable floppy |
| 18:29.35 | Bor_Ed | yup, the OF can't find bootable disk |
| 18:29.48 | Bor_Ed | you can set the boot-device though on the OF |
| 18:30.07 | Bor_Ed | hit ctrl+apple+power and after the boing, alt+apple+o+f |
| 18:32.12 | DelTree | should I bugreport agains missing vfat in installer's initrd ? |
| 18:32.25 | Bor_Ed | check if that's already reported |
| 18:32.30 | noahj | Okay, I got to open firmware, What do I type? |
| 18:32.44 | Bor_Ed | setenv boot-device ide0@0:0 |
| 18:32.47 | Bor_Ed | reset-all |
| 18:32.53 | DelTree | doesn't seem to be... but bugreports on debian-installer are quite a bit of a mess... |
| 18:33.04 | Bor_Ed | DelTree: how about feature request? |
| 18:33.20 | Bor_Ed | noahj: sorry, setenv boot-device ide0/disk@0:0 |
| 18:33.24 | DelTree | Bor_Ed: just don't know what to do... |
| 18:33.41 | Bor_Ed | DelTree: format the medium with ext2? :) |
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| 18:34.14 | DelTree | Bor_Ed: very nice idea... it's a usb stick and I'm stuck in OSX... |
| 18:34.26 | Bor_Ed | aww shite... does hfs get shipped with the kernel? |
| 18:34.35 | DelTree | Bor_Ed: I think if you don't have vfat then you shouldn't have usb_storage anyway... |
| 18:35.05 | noahj | Bor_ed: ide boot set... |
| 18:35.07 | Bor_Ed | and took some time to troubleshoot why my creative muvo didn't work :D |
| 18:35.29 | Bor_Ed | noahj: did you apply the systemdisk patch to the OF? |
| 18:35.47 | Bor_Ed | (do you have a thing under nvramrc ?) |
| 18:36.00 | noahj | Bor_Ed: no... no patching on my part |
| 18:36.18 | Bor_Ed | hmm, then you need to boot with system disk and patch the OF |
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| 18:37.56 | noahj | How do I check which device is which from OF? |
| 18:38.40 | Bor_Ed | eh? |
| 18:39.16 | noahj | Like, it says Unable to boot form ide0/disk0:0, so I thought I might try ide1, etc. |
| 18:39.28 | Bor_Ed | ide1 is secondary ide bus |
| 18:39.40 | Bor_Ed | it says the unable to boot because of you haven't patched the OF |
| 18:39.56 | noahj | So I need a mac os system disk? |
| 18:40.05 | noahj | I have one for OS 6... |
| 18:40.09 | Bor_Ed | http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/SystemDisk-tutorial/ works for linux too |
| 18:42.40 | noahj | Thanks, the netbsd page is really helpful |
| 18:42.49 | Bor_Ed | :) |
| 18:43.27 | Bor_Ed | the dd'able images are on http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src if he hasn't taken them offline |
| 18:43.48 | SimonRaven | no |
| 18:44.04 | Bor_Ed | ? |
| 18:44.22 | Bor_Ed | no what? |
| 18:49.10 | noahj | Where on http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src? |
| 18:49.29 | SimonRaven | no i haven't taken them down |
| 18:49.43 | Bor_Ed | ahh :) |
| 18:49.57 | noahj | I looked around in the debian dir... |
| 18:50.08 | Bor_Ed | noahj: yup... and speaking of devil, he just came alive... they're on macos dir |
| 18:52.01 | noahj | Do I want disktools+systemdisk.img? |
| 18:52.10 | Bor_Ed | that's the one |
| 18:53.47 | noahj | Making the disk... |
| 18:54.47 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: want dump of my 'working' setup on g3? still have prob with VFS: panic but at least quik loads and starts the kernel |
| 18:55.59 | SimonRaven | sure, bit busy ATM though |
| 18:56.10 | noahj | Disk made. |
| 18:56.13 | Bor_Ed | I can mail it... if you drop the addy again on notice :) |
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| 19:00.16 | MrNikel | Hi I was looking for some information about the debian ppc64 port. Is the biarch appoach working already? where can I get those packages, I have a 64 bits machine, and the only 64 bits code running now is my kernel, what about the rest? |
| 19:00.51 | Bor_Ed | 64 bit cpu is 32 bit compatible afaik |
| 19:00.54 | SimonRaven | Bor_Ed: chop off the 'raven' part |
| 19:01.03 | Bor_Ed | mmkay |
| 19:01.21 | Bor_Ed | ahh, got a bouncer already :D |
| 19:01.29 | SimonRaven | uh hunh =) |
| 19:02.40 | Bor_Ed | tried with whole nick |
| 19:03.25 | MrNikel | I know, but wanted to test that biarch approach, In fact I have alrealy some 64bits libraries installed, but no binaries are usen them |
| 19:03.51 | Bor_Ed | compile helloworld against 64 bit libs? :) |
| 19:03.52 | Zet | MrNikel: you misspelled biotch :) |
| 19:04.11 | noahj | Good. I booted the mac os 8.1 disk. |
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| 19:10.59 | Bor_Ed | hehe |
| 19:11.19 | Bor_Ed | buggr isp here doesn't allow tcp/25 as the old (suckier) isp did |
| 19:11.27 | SimonRaven | :( |
| 19:12.02 | Bor_Ed | and ofcourse I can't use the linker services since I don't have a credit card (some euros/year with visa/mastercard) |
| 19:12.56 | Bor_Ed | at least the ssh, ftp and http work :) |
| 19:13.00 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 19:16.31 | Bor_Ed | stuffit for linux runs only on linux/x86 |
| 19:17.00 | Bor_Ed | and you don |
| 19:17.10 | Bor_Ed | 't need it since it's included on the disk utils disk |
| 19:17.51 | noahj | Just found that out :-) |
| 19:17.57 | noahj | <the hard way> |
| 19:18.01 | Bor_Ed | LOL |
| 19:18.26 | Bor_Ed | file <yadayada> told me that after trying to run the buggr some times |
| 19:18.52 | noahj | Yeah, filled my stuffit directory will all sorts of junk |
| 19:19.18 | noahj | I am going to burn systemdisk to CD now. |
| 19:19.33 | MrNikel | Wow Hello World in 64 bits... thats amazing... |
| 19:19.49 | Bor_Ed | MrNikel: certainly something different :D |
| 19:19.55 | MrNikel | I was looking for something like The gimp or so. Or a virtual machine (ruby, java)... |
| 19:19.58 | MrNikel | :) |
| 19:20.01 | noahj | LOL |
| 19:20.39 | Bor_Ed | you're sooo demanding :P |
| 19:20.50 | MrNikel | And I tried to download the pure 64 bits approach, but the spources are not working. |
| 19:20.53 | noahj | Does "Hello World" on a 64 bit machine run faster than Hello World on a 32 bit? |
| 19:21.21 | MrNikel | Dont think so |
| 19:21.31 | Curalton | iirc all the "64bit hype" is only because amd64 could break some of thx x86 limitations |
| 19:21.35 | MrNikel | Well, I can try, got glibc |
| 19:21.58 | Curalton | on ppc most userland stuff tends to stay 32bit |
| 19:22.01 | Bor_Ed | noahj: prolly not since 64 bitter has more memory overhead |
| 19:22.05 | Curalton | (even on a 64bit kernel) |
| 19:22.18 | Bor_Ed | Curalton: ain't it same on sparcs? |
| 19:22.37 | Curalton | yeh, and alpha and whatnot |
| 19:22.47 | Curalton | any arch with a sane 32bit implementation |
| 19:23.00 | Bor_Ed | POWER though has a bit different approach afaik (pure 64 bitter) |
| 19:23.14 | CoutAway | pahartik: say, can you boot your box with quik? |
| 19:24.13 | Coutal | i have some code that pokes the i2c bus behind the cuda. but the result is less than optimal - it looks like there's only one client, and not the right one, even. |
| 19:24.19 | Coutal | but at least something responds |
| 19:24.50 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: have you had any luck with quik? |
| 19:25.01 | Bor_Ed | Coutal: still panics on rootfs mount |
| 19:25.10 | Coutal | but does it boot the kernel? |
| 19:25.17 | Bor_Ed | didn't have time to put in the scsi disk since I did overtime this weekend |
| 19:25.24 | Bor_Ed | it boots the kernel up to some point |
| 19:25.49 | Coutal | that's most of what i need. if you're willing to copy/paste me the dump data from the atyfb, i might be able to finally smack down the problem. |
| 19:26.11 | Bor_Ed | ? :o |
| 19:26.12 | Coutal | but you'll have to write down the register dump, or copy it from serial console or something |
| 19:26.21 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: i need to compare a "good" register dump to a "bad" register dump |
| 19:26.28 | Coutal | but i cannot boot my box with quik |
| 19:26.58 | Bor_Ed | I can't get any dumps since the kernel panics with VFS: can not mount rootfs (0,3) rebooting in 180 secs :) |
| 19:27.16 | Bor_Ed | and syslog doesn't have a thing |
| 19:27.19 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: yes, but atyfb will load prior to that. if you compile it with #define DEBUG, it will dump all of its registers to the boot console. |
| 19:27.31 | Coutal | so you'll have 180 seconds to copy it ;-) |
| 19:28.04 | Bor_Ed | mmm, I'll compile the thingy with debug next weekend... and drop the scsi disk in... I guess that'll solve the thingy for good |
| 19:30.50 | Bor_Ed | or I have to get the digicam card unloaded to take shots of the screen :D |
| 19:32.23 | Coutal | that'd work great |
| 19:32.45 | Bor_Ed | grmbl, got to recompile the kernel 'soon' |
| 19:32.50 | Coutal | i finally got a *good* reading off the bus. there are clients at 0x23, 0x51, 0x71, 0x81 and 0xb7 |
| 19:32.58 | Coutal | there's also a client that locks the box hard at 0x4d |
| 19:33.16 | Bor_Ed | (it's now 9:30pm and I'm supposed to be at work ~7am with weekend behind at work) |
| 19:33.26 | Bor_Ed | Coutal ? |
| 19:33.52 | SimonRaven | CUDA bus, right? |
| 19:33.53 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: i have written code to probe the i2c bus behind the via-cuda. that's where all (hopefully) the devices linux doesn't support "hide" |
| 19:34.24 | Coutal | SimonRaven: the cuda supports a certain type of packet that causes it to send i2c requests. |
| 19:34.25 | Bor_Ed | mmmkay |
| 19:34.37 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: the video i/o, the IR receiver, the FM in and the TV tuner. |
| 19:34.54 | Bor_Ed | ahh, the personality card? |
| 19:35.05 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: and its predecessor on the powermac 5500 |
| 19:35.12 | SimonRaven | Coutal: that would be cool. did you take a look at http://simonraven.nuit.ca/src/cudamgr/ ? it's old stuff, and probably isn't helpful anymore, but wtf |
| 19:35.14 | Bor_Ed | oookay, now I get ya |
| 19:35.39 | Coutal | SimonRaven: the more help i can get the better, especially if its old/outdated :) |
| 19:35.57 | SimonRaven | i still use it to set some stuff |
| 19:36.11 | Coutal | let me try and decode the results and tell you what i found :) |
| 19:36.27 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 19:38.12 | SimonRaven | i think i tweaked the Makefile a while ago so it'd actually run ;) |
| 19:39.25 | SimonRaven | i should update my backups... they're a coupla weeks old now... |
| 19:40.21 | SimonRaven | uptime |
| 19:40.22 | SimonRaven | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.34 | Bor_Ed | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.39 | Bor_Ed | mine's bigger than yers :D |
| 19:40.40 | SimonRaven | nice |
| 19:41.08 | Coutal | these results do not seem to make sense. maybe they're bit-shifted. |
| 19:41.08 | Coutal | sec |
| 19:41.09 | Bor_Ed | I'd need to bring the box down for cache stick addition... though I think I'll do that on next blackout |
| 19:41.26 | SimonRaven | that one got moved to a 2.6 kernel. was having problems with epoll() with a new openldap build |
| 19:41.43 | Coutal | brb |
| 19:41.51 | SimonRaven | slapd would crash with some strange errors |
| 19:42.04 | SimonRaven | TYT |
| 19:42.07 | Bor_Ed | this box has 2.4.27-powerpc :D |
| 19:43.06 | SimonRaven | i usually build custom kernels, but i installed a debian one, to test the problem out. turns out that 2.4 (on ppc anyway) has issues with epoll() |
| 19:43.27 | SimonRaven | @kernel |
| 19:43.30 | ravenbird | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.14.2, prepatch: 2.6.15-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.15-rc1-git2, 2.4: 2.4.31, prepatch: 2.4.32-rc3, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.14-mm2 |
| 19:43.31 | noahj | So, now that I hawe burnt the Systemdisk file to a CD-R, when I put it in the mac, it wants to initialize it. |
| 19:43.41 | Bor_Ed | I have 2.6.14.2 vanilla on the g3 |
| 19:44.01 | Bor_Ed | oh, and preempt has worked ok |
| 19:44.07 | SimonRaven | noahj: how did you burn it? |
| 19:44.12 | SimonRaven | yeh, here too |
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| 19:44.42 | Bor_Ed | noahj: you need to burn the .img as you'd burn .iso |
| 19:45.01 | SimonRaven | mkisofs --hybrid |
| 19:45.25 | Coutal | okay. so the values i got are 23h, 51h, 71h, 81h and b7h. the values i expected were 4e/4f, 38/39, 41/42/43 or 8A/8B. does it look bitshifted or added base to you? |
| 19:45.26 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven ?? that's why my mockos 8.0 doesn't want to boot? :) |
| 19:45.29 | SimonRaven | (and other options) otherwise it won't boot it |
| 19:45.34 | SimonRaven | for cds |
| 19:46.20 | SimonRaven | Coutal: offhand i'd say yes, but i didn't do any precise calculations |
| 19:46.22 | noahj | I burnt it in Xcdroast |
| 19:46.33 | noahj | its not a .img though, its a .bin |
| 19:46.37 | Coutal | it's time to whip up the good old calculator |
| 19:46.46 | Bor_Ed | .bin is mac binhex format |
| 19:47.02 | noahj | I thought .hqx was |
| 19:47.10 | SimonRaven | why are you burning floppy images to cd anyway? |
| 19:47.11 | Bor_Ed | that too |
| 19:48.13 | noahj | Its a 6mb file |
| 19:48.22 | noahj | I don't have a 6mb floppy disk |
| 19:48.46 | Bor_Ed | hmm, that's prolly self mounting image then.. |
| 19:49.04 | noahj | Yup, SystemDisk2.3.1.smi.bin |
| 19:49.05 | SimonRaven | it is? what are burning, i thought it was that floppy img you fetched from my site. sorry :) |
| 19:49.10 | SimonRaven | ah ok |
| 19:49.18 | Bor_Ed | aaa |
| 19:49.21 | SimonRaven | those won't 'take' ;) |
| 19:49.21 | noahj | I already made the floppy from your site, works great |
| 19:49.22 | Bor_Ed | that's binhex file |
| 19:49.48 | Bor_Ed | you can burn the floppy image to cd too afaik, it's normal hfs image |
| 19:50.12 | noahj | So, how would I burn an smi to cd? |
| 19:50.18 | Coutal | SimonRaven: i found out what i seem to be doing wrong. i copied a cuda_request that goes (..., 0x8a, some_int, some_other_int) with (..., addr_int, some_int, some_other_int) |
| 19:50.20 | Bor_Ed | you don't |
| 19:50.23 | Coutal | maybe the types aren't converted correctly. |
| 19:50.24 | Bor_Ed | it's self mounting image |
| 19:50.43 | noahj | Does that mean I have to download it on the target macintosh? |
| 19:50.55 | Bor_Ed | it'll only run on mockos |
| 19:50.57 | SimonRaven | hmm, maybe specify the kind of int ? |
| 19:51.04 | Coutal | unsigned?! |
| 19:51.13 | Coutal | maybe that's what i forgot |
| 19:51.18 | SimonRaven | or signed... dunno which it is |
| 19:51.42 | noahj | I have Mac OS 8.1 running, booting off the floppy simonraven helpfully hosted on his site |
| 19:51.44 | SimonRaven | that would definitely make a difference ;) |
| 19:51.53 | Coutal | or shouldn't it be unsigned byte at all? |
| 19:52.04 | SimonRaven | dunno |
| 19:52.15 | Coutal | i'll try unsigned int first |
| 19:52.20 | Coutal | see if that makes any difference. |
| 19:52.25 | Bor_Ed | noahj: set the nvram on the floppy systemdisk, save and reboot |
| 19:52.38 | SimonRaven | i'm not a C coder, i just understand some of the basics |
| 19:52.45 | Coutal | well, ditto :) |
| 19:52.50 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 19:53.10 | noahj | Bor_Ed huh? |
| 19:53.32 | Bor_Ed | noahj: boot the disk, do what the bsd doc says and reboot :) |
| 19:53.44 | SimonRaven | i read scrollback on the convo you had with benh last night, i think you grok more than i do |
| 19:54.11 | noahj | Step 2. download, I cannot do that. the floppy disk doesnt have a browser on it. |
| 19:54.29 | Bor_Ed | noahj: the floppy has systemdisk included in |
| 19:54.30 | Coutal | SimonRaven: me? i know system administration, i read a lot, but i can't code it :) |
| 19:54.37 | noahj | Oh, thanks! |
| 19:54.38 | SimonRaven | same here :) |
| 19:54.40 | Bor_Ed | :P |
| 19:55.13 | Coutal | so i'm trying to shoehorn different pieces of code. you know, once i can properly communicate with the chip, maybe some cut & pasting would get me perliminary video or radio support |
| 19:55.24 | Coutal | because the code for running these chips already exists |
| 19:55.24 | SimonRaven | what i do learn is from osmosis, or the occasional chat with some other internet friends |
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| 19:55.30 | Coutal | just not the code to access them |
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| 19:55.41 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 19:56.27 | Coutal | you know, this can make the powermac 5500 or the G3 a kick ass PVR |
| 19:56.37 | Coutal | it got just enough juice to run it. |
| 19:56.58 | Bor_Ed | g3 sweats even with recent xvid at 700x500something |
| 19:57.06 | Bor_Ed | (clocked 233 to 315 :) |
| 19:57.21 | SimonRaven | also, you could access some of the other faetues on some other boxen; they have via-cuda too. there's a whole gen. of mac ppcs that have that |
| 19:57.33 | SimonRaven | features even |
| 19:59.48 | noahj | I did what the BSD doc said, now openfirmware is patched. |
| 19:59.52 | Coutal | SimonRaven: that's true. don't have access to those, but maybe it will start it. but maybe noone cares enough, like the pmac 5500 |
| 20:00.15 | Bor_Ed | noahj: it might work now on boot if you put up correct boot-device |
| 20:00.28 | SimonRaven | they still have life in them yet, with a bit of work |
| 20:00.54 | Coutal | well, think about it, buying a PVR on ebay for 15$, that's neat. |
| 20:01.20 | Coutal | unless you live outside the states, in which case you'll pay at least 50$ just for shipping :) |
| 20:01.29 | Bor_Ed | make that 150 :I |
| 20:01.43 | Bor_Ed | at least to old continent |
| 20:01.44 | Coutal | ouch |
| 20:02.10 | Bor_Ed | though brit and german ebays have occasionally something at decent prices |
| 20:02.47 | Bor_Ed | noahj: your firewall isn't working |
| 20:03.08 | Bor_Ed | modprobe ip |
| 20:03.13 | Bor_Ed | modprobe ip_nat_irc |
| 20:04.46 | noahj | I got an error! (finally, a real error) it says: boot CLAIM failed |
| 20:05.11 | Coutal | SimonRaven: i tried to just put the byte value directly - i'll see if that answers my expectations better |
| 20:05.13 | Bor_Ed | umm, haven't had that in ages... I recall it comes with wrong load-base |
| 20:05.41 | Bor_Ed | noahj: google for the error... |
| 20:06.08 | MrNikel | Ok, got the toolchain. Hello world acts pretty much the same :) |
| 20:06.19 | Bor_Ed | MrNikel: can't be :D |
| 20:06.36 | Bor_Ed | do 'time hello' on both 32 and 64 bitter? :D |
| 20:06.57 | MrNikel | hehehe I did already |
| 20:07.28 | Bor_Ed | and? :) |
| 20:07.49 | noahj | Bor_Ed it looks like I forgot to reset-all |
| 20:07.54 | Bor_Ed | noahj: aww :) |
| 20:08.02 | Bor_Ed | it just boots the box though |
| 20:08.37 | Bor_Ed | noahj: you didn't put a thing to load-file, right? |
| 20:08.43 | Bor_Ed | boot-file even |
| 20:09.16 | SimonRaven | Coutal: ok |
| 20:09.16 | MrNikel | pretty much the same |
| 20:09.16 | MrNikel | I did a for loop with a lot of iterations, but 60 ms on both |
| 20:09.16 | MrNikel | What I should try is some memory transfer, |
| 20:09.41 | noahj | Nothing it boot-file |
| 20:09.57 | Bor_Ed | MrNikel: doesn't really suprise... small app... now get the source for that thingy that checks out numbers that can't be divided with anything else than itself and with 1 and run ~1*10^20 iterations :D |
| 20:10.30 | noahj | *in |
| 20:12.19 | MrNikel | I will try to compile somethign real, now. In fact applications goes slower in 64 bits, but deserves a try to play some. The toolchain was ready on sid. |
| 20:12.41 | Bor_Ed | boot-device: ide/disk@0:X |
| 20:12.42 | Bor_Ed | boot-file: /boot/vmlinux root=/dev/hdaX |
| 20:12.45 | Bor_Ed | hmmm |
| 20:13.24 | noahj | I have tried ide0/disk@0:0,1,2, and 3. |
| 20:13.30 | noahj | but no boot-file yet. |
| 20:13.57 | Bor_Ed | I'm about to reboot with autoboot set off and with boot-file set |
| 20:14.16 | SimonRaven | Bor_Ed: those are called prime numbers |
| 20:14.33 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: yup, forgot the term in english :I |
| 20:14.38 | SimonRaven | np |
| 20:16.13 | Bor_Ed | time for a reboot... again... |
| 20:16.36 | Coutal | SimonRaven: okay, now i'm pretty sure the values passed are wrong |
| 20:16.45 | Coutal | when i hardcoded the hex value, i get expected results. |
| 20:17.31 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 20:18.11 | Coutal | but now i have to know what is the right type to do that. |
| 20:18.12 | Coutal | hmpf |
| 20:18.51 | SimonRaven | try signed int, then (un)signed long maybe? |
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| 20:19.54 | Coutal | hmm it seems like it's stuck now |
| 20:20.04 | Coutal | which is odd. it never should get stuck. |
| 20:21.35 | Bor_Ed | no go with boot-file :o |
| 20:21.59 | noahj | Well, I cannot seem to find which HD is the root. |
| 20:22.35 | Bor_Ed | noahj: checked the disk map on the site? |
| 20:23.21 | noahj | On the freebsd site? |
| 20:23.36 | noahj | Yes. |
| 20:24.30 | noahj | Anyone know what the beige G3 powermacs root hard drive is usually called? |
| 20:25.06 | Bor_Ed | ide0/disk@0:0 if it's primary ide disk (hda) |
| 20:26.13 | noahj | Thanks |
| 20:27.03 | noahj | A-Ha! |
| 20:27.06 | Bor_Ed | hdb is 0:1, hdc is ide1/disk@0:0 and so on |
| 20:27.24 | noahj | You can run ls from OF! |
| 20:27.37 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 20:27.45 | Bor_Ed | dev / ls gives all devices in sys |
| 20:27.53 | noahj | so all I have to do is ls ide0/disk@0:0 to test for devices |
| 20:28.04 | Bor_Ed | pretty much |
| 20:29.27 | Bor_Ed | hrm, ide0/disk@0:0 is the hda first partition |
| 20:29.34 | noahj | its an ata disk |
| 20:31.11 | noahj | I typed ls ata/ata-disk@0,0 and got a listing! |
| 20:31.15 | Bor_Ed | I'll try the setup next weekend with scsi disk (I've had good success with scsi on other oldworld boxen here before) |
| 20:31.31 | noahj | but booting failed. |
| 20:31.32 | Bor_Ed | drop that to boot-device then |
| 20:31.39 | Bor_Ed | it's 0:0 |
| 20:34.06 | MrNikel | Hehehe, ruby64 is 40% slower :) |
| 20:34.19 | Bor_Ed | MrNikel: doesn't suprise me really |
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| 20:34.58 | MrNikel | Everything is programmed with the 32b words in mind |
| 20:35.07 | Bor_Ed | yup |
| 20:35.27 | Bor_Ed | and memory access with 64 bit words wastes half of the bus |
| 20:35.34 | noahj | Bor_Ed: Tried. it turns out, after I type dev / ls, every ls is the same. |
| 20:36.14 | MrNikel | Well you can also think as use instead of waste (with 64 bits in mind from scractch) |
| 20:36.41 | Bor_Ed | noahj: it should give ide0/ and such outputs... if not, the devices are under /pci/mac-io/ide |
| 20:37.01 | MrNikel | But with interpreted languages I guess the improvement can be done just tweking the interpreter (or rewriting :) |
| 20:37.34 | noahj | I also tried booting off the CD again: I got Unrecognized client program format, state not valid |
| 20:37.50 | Bor_Ed | MrNikel: I'm just getting back to 8-bitters... 64 is way out of my league |
| 20:38.16 | Bor_Ed | noahj: you only can boot macos cds with oldworlds |
| 20:38.30 | noahj | Isnt the G4 an oldworld? |
| 20:38.38 | noahj | *G3 |
| 20:39.25 | MrNikel | Still have to check code prepared for 64 bits. I wonder how does the ibm java virtual machine 64b version works. |
| 20:40.15 | Bor_Ed | beige g3 is oldworld, b&w is newworld |
| 20:40.41 | Bor_Ed | noahj: whoops... [22:38] < Bor_Ed> | noahj: you only can boot macos cds with oldworlds |
| 20:40.45 | Bor_Ed | in newworlds :D |
| 20:40.58 | noahj | I have a beige |
| 20:41.27 | noahj | The best I con get is boot CLAIM failed. |
| 20:41.37 | Bor_Ed | hmm, I have my nvsetenv printout here I could dcc to youto check out what's different on our setups |
| 20:41.52 | noahj | I googled it, but I only found law claims an such |
| 20:42.14 | Bor_Ed | want to have a peek? |
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| 20:45.06 | Coutal | i am trying u8 |
| 20:45.13 | noahj | sure |
| 20:46.20 | Coutal | i think that's the one |
| 20:46.45 | noahj | Now how do I get my mac to spit out something like that? |
| 20:47.20 | Coutal | SimonRaven: i have a good feeling about u8 |
| 20:47.42 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 20:48.08 | Bor_Ed | noahj: printenv in OF |
| 20:48.23 | Bor_Ed | (alt+apple+o+f :) |
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| 20:48.47 | Coutal | funny thing though - when i mess up with the cuda, even ctrl-bong doesn't kill the box. it just loops endlessly :) |
| 20:49.08 | noahj | I am going to reinstall Mac OS 6 and start over. |
| 20:49.31 | Bor_Ed | os 6 won't run on that box |
| 20:50.48 | Coutal | what box is that? |
| 20:51.05 | Bor_Ed | beige g3... the most evil of any apple creations :D |
| 20:51.15 | Coutal | Bor_Ed: there was a worse one |
| 20:51.21 | Coutal | actually the beige g3 is quite nice |
| 20:51.22 | Bor_Ed | and according to the probs, 2.0f1 FW too :D |
| 20:51.28 | Coutal | compared to that evil performa |
| 20:51.47 | Coutal | http://www.lowendmac.com/roadapples/index.shtml |
| 20:52.07 | Bor_Ed | I know... pb5300c has pretty good reputation too :) |
| 20:53.17 | Coutal | the one without cache? |
| 20:53.18 | Bor_Ed | Coutal: I meant alternative OS wise... not mockos wise |
| 20:53.42 | Bor_Ed | but yea, the one without cache |
| 20:55.35 | Coutal | they actually do list the beige g3 as a road apple |
| 20:55.40 | Coutal | but to a lesser extent |
| 20:56.06 | Bor_Ed | it works ok with mockos |
| 20:56.20 | Coutal | it should work nice with linux too |
| 20:56.33 | Bor_Ed | good luck on setting that up :D |
| 20:57.19 | Coutal | okay, this takes years to scan the devices. and it threw up too |
| 20:57.41 | noahj | I checked the printenv output, and from what I can tell, I do not have the same dev idex lines as you. |
| 20:57.49 | Coutal | i'll leave it to do some scanning and then read the results in a few minutes and tell you if u8 works |
| 20:58.03 | Bor_Ed | noahj: you prolly have older systemdisk then... |
| 20:58.10 | noahj | In other news, I looked in my pile, and I did not find the mac disk. |
| 20:58.35 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: can you fix the image you have on the site at some point to include the recent systemdisk? |
| 20:58.46 | noahj | Ah, looking at post history that is a good thing, because OS 6 wouldnt run anyway. |
| 20:58.55 | Bor_Ed | yup, |
| 20:59.03 | Bor_Ed | 7.5.x->10.2.8 |
| 20:59.13 | SimonRaven | i don't run os x |
| 20:59.34 | SimonRaven | send me cds ;p |
| 20:59.35 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: the systemdisk is on osx dir but it worked at least here in 8.1 |
| 21:00.07 | noahj | does anyone have a bootable disk image with xboot so you can boot the CD? |
| 21:00.07 | SimonRaven | i'll see what i can do. no promises |
| 21:00.12 | Bor_Ed | danke |
| 21:10.03 | Coutal | i think i may have stepped on the TEA6330 in the mac |
| 21:10.07 | Coutal | that's a good sign |
| 21:10.34 | Bor_Ed | that's a tuner chip, right? |
| 21:11.27 | Coutal | yep |
| 21:11.57 | Bor_Ed | I've only had to work with bt878 based cards |
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| 21:15.05 | noahj | Ah, MacOS is to MockOS as Windows is to WInoze. gotcha. |
| 21:15.19 | Bor_Ed | pretty close |
| 21:16.16 | noahj | So what is Mac OS X? |
| 21:16.27 | noahj | Just Mock OS X? |
| 21:16.34 | Bor_Ed | mockosx |
| 21:19.11 | Bor_Ed | congrats... been there, done that and now trying to get the standalone install to work :) |
| 21:19.29 | noahj | GFY |
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| 21:26.20 | Coutal | grr, it didn't log most of the results at all. |
| 21:26.26 | Coutal | i have to recompile and re-probe |
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| 21:29.09 | Bor_Ed | SimonRaven: got my mail? I got 'mail rejected from nuit.ca' :o |
| 21:29.34 | Q-FUNK | try jour.ca |
| 21:30.07 | Bor_Ed | I bet it'll get same result :I |
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| 21:38.19 | noahj | Is there a 'diff' for Mock OS 9? |
| 21:40.21 | noahj | Odd... if I make a floppy from boot.img, and then image the floppy back, the second image is 1.2 mb, while the first is 1.4 |
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| 22:01.37 | noahj | Hello |
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| 22:02.24 | Coutal | SimonRaven: it looks like my code is mostly right. it seems to detect the right chips now |
| 22:02.27 | Coutal | it was off by one. |
| 22:04.03 | Coutal | SimonRaven: according to the docs i have, i can now frob the fm tuner (SAA1300), video scaler (SAA7140) and RCA input jacks (TEA6330) |
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