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| 00:03.03 | callipygous | morning |
| 00:24.42 | callipygous | fine |
| 00:24.44 | callipygous | be that way |
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| 01:15.19 | Tenniru_ | Hi... |
| 01:15.39 | Tenniru_ | I'm having some trouble with the "trackpad notap" command. It refuses to stay permanent. |
| 01:15.59 | Tenniru_ | Which is a problem because I have to turn the computer back on because this is a laptop and debian won't let it go to sleep. |
| 01:16.34 | callipygous | hmm |
| 01:16.38 | callipygous | thats not good |
| 01:17.26 | Tenniru_ | Meanwhile, I only have one mouse button. And I can't figure out how to get a keystroke to replicate a pres of the right button. |
| 01:21.03 | callipygous | oh ok know that one |
| 01:21.05 | callipygous | add this: |
| 01:21.06 | callipygous | dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1 |
| 01:21.07 | callipygous | dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode = 87 |
| 01:21.07 | callipygous | dev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode = 88 |
| 01:21.11 | callipygous | to your /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 01:30.07 | pahartik | Tenniru_: you may use "powerprefs" to set "trackpad mode" and other features permanently |
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| 02:04.58 | Tenniru_ | Powerprefs is working nicely... |
| 02:05.13 | Tenniru_ | But I'm having trouble finding where it talks about the trackpad. |
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| 02:17.47 | Tenniru_ | Oops, sorry. |
| 02:18.23 | Tenniru_ | Okay, it turns out pbbuttonsd wasn't installed. Sleep works. |
| 02:18.43 | callipygous | and your mouse buttons? |
| 02:18.53 | Tenniru_ | Unfortunlately I never killed hald and thus, as linuxes do, it locked up when I tried to wake it up. |
| 02:19.01 | Tenniru_ | Buttons... I kinda lost where you said what to do. |
| 02:19.08 | Tenniru_ | And powerprefs says nothing about the trackpad notap. |
| 02:19.59 | callipygous | put this in /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 02:20.10 | callipygous | dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation = 1 |
| 02:20.10 | callipygous | dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode = 87 |
| 02:20.11 | callipygous | dev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode = 88 |
| 02:20.33 | callipygous | and that should make it able to use F11 and F12 as middle and right click, respectively |
| 02:21.06 | Tenniru_ | In the .conf, I add it at the bottom? |
| 02:21.14 | callipygous | yeah |
| 02:21.26 | Tenniru_ | There's a # before everything. Do I add one before these? |
| 02:21.42 | callipygous | doesn't matter |
| 02:21.48 | callipygous | just stick in in there somewhere |
| 02:23.39 | Tenniru_ | It's in |
| 02:23.49 | Tenniru_ | Now what? |
| 02:24.05 | Tenniru_ | Will it instantly start working, or do I restart X? |
| 02:24.16 | callipygous | might have to restart X and sysctl |
| 02:24.45 | Tenniru_ | Does sysctl restart with X? |
| 02:24.53 | callipygous | nup |
| 02:24.54 | callipygous | but try it |
| 02:25.03 | Tenniru_ | I'll reboot the whole machine. |
| 02:26.11 | callipygous | good idea |
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| 02:29.32 | Tenniru_ | Horray! |
| 02:29.37 | Tenniru_ | It worked! Thank you very much! |
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| 02:43.25 | Tenniru_ | Um... another problem. |
| 02:43.30 | Tenniru_ | Sound does not work. |
| 02:43.40 | Tenniru_ | According to the mixer it's unmuted and at 50 percent... |
| 02:43.54 | Tenniru_ | But there's either something wrong with vlc or the soung is not coming through. |
| 02:50.53 | callipygous | hmm dunno |
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| 03:40.28 | xbaez | hi |
| 03:40.56 | xbaez | someone knows if something is wrong with icons in nautilus package ? |
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| 06:27.23 | callipygous | hallo |
| 06:28.40 | simonrvn | hi |
| 06:31.15 | callipygous | heya |
| 06:31.21 | callipygous | whats happening? |
| 06:32.24 | simonrvn | eating dinner |
| 06:32.39 | callipygous | what you eating? is it good? |
| 06:33.04 | simonrvn | rice beans an veggies. yup |
| 06:44.27 | callipygous | rice is good |
| 06:44.38 | nusse | both rice and beans are vegetables:) |
| 06:44.57 | simonrvn | beans are legumes |
| 06:45.15 | nusse | legumes is french, isnt it? |
| 06:45.16 | simonrvn | they go in the meat and alternates category |
| 06:46.29 | simonrvn | yes. it's used in english, too. a *lot* of english words are french. and a tonne of arabic, and spanish, and ... |
| 06:48.31 | nusse | but legumes is vegetables:) |
| 06:52.31 | simonrvn | in french yes. but in french you use another word (which i don't remember right now) to define what category beans go in ;) |
| 06:54.50 | DelTree | pois |
| 06:55.26 | simonrvn | yeah |
| 06:55.34 | simonrvn | merci |
| 07:09.10 | fluffy_wolf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GrayWolf2web.jpg /me still thinks that's an adorably snuggleable picture |
| 07:18.33 | nusse | youre using too much french vocabulary |
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| 08:37.16 | callipygous | english is like a whore language |
| 08:37.21 | callipygous | can't come up with anything original |
| 08:37.27 | callipygous | sleeps with heaps of guys |
| 08:37.32 | callipygous | and ends up using their words |
| 08:37.34 | callipygous | english is da slut |
| 08:41.22 | simonrvn | which is why it's everywhere. FYI, guys can be whores too |
| 08:45.11 | callipygous | FYI: for your information |
| 08:52.20 | callipygous | link2 2 + framebuffer |
| 08:52.23 | callipygous | looks good in 8 bit |
| 08:52.26 | simonrvn | yup |
| 08:52.28 | callipygous | but the screen is pink in 16 bit |
| 08:52.30 | simonrvn | yeh, it does |
| 08:52.32 | callipygous | any idea why? |
| 08:52.38 | simonrvn | nope |
| 08:52.41 | callipygous | hmm |
| 08:52.47 | callipygous | oh and its off the screen at the left |
| 08:52.53 | callipygous | and the left of the screen is on the right |
| 08:53.04 | callipygous | with a vertical black line in the right side |
| 08:53.18 | simonrvn | maybe due to the same issue 16 bits has in x. dunno why that is, but on some 16 is crap, but 15 works |
| 08:53.33 | simonrvn | some +framebuffers |
| 08:54.48 | callipygous | nope, 15 doesn't work either |
| 08:54.50 | callipygous | pink |
| 08:55.14 | simonrvn | hm |
| 08:59.59 | callipygous | pink as pussy lips |
| 09:00.35 | simonrvn | keep the tasteless comments to yourself please |
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| 09:33.19 | callipygous | heh hehehehe |
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| 10:58.45 | Callipygous | lwod |
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| 14:40.06 | e2e | Hi, i've installed debian/testing on a G3 450MHz (It's a blue/gray box), but sound card doesn't work. I've looked at lspci for Multimedia audio controller, but i couldn't see anyone, i'm sure there is one, how can i get it work, which module i have to use? |
| 14:40.40 | Callipygous | look in your kernel |
| 14:42.19 | e2e | Callipygous: Is that for me? If so, what was your mean? I've not understand :( |
| 14:42.41 | Callipygous | compile your own kernel |
| 14:42.50 | Callipygous | or look in /lib/modules/ |
| 14:42.54 | Callipygous | for a sound modules |
| 14:43.57 | e2e | Callipygous: I don't know which module i have to use. G3 450MHz box is very popular, so i thought someone already using it and can tell me which module they use... |
| 14:44.19 | bender-RW- | dmasound_pmac or something? |
| 14:44.27 | bender-RW- | thats what i use on my g3 ibook |
| 14:44.47 | bender-RW- | but then i'm not a mac hardware buff |
| 14:45.07 | Curalton | btw anyone an idea where i can get used up G3 ibook batteries? i use my ibook with the adapter mostly and dont want to wast my still good battery for that |
| 14:53.05 | bender-RW- | can't you just do that without the battery? |
| 14:54.10 | Curalton | no, it wont like the heat |
| 14:54.22 | Curalton | and getting charged all the time/being at 100% all the time |
| 14:55.46 | pahartik | Curalton: from what i have understood from documentation at Apple site, one can even take out battery while running... |
| 14:57.11 | bender-RW- | thats what i meant, just take out the good battery and replace with nothing |
| 14:57.15 | Curalton | err, yes |
| 14:57.16 | pahartik | Curalton: but you want battery that lasts for few minutes like UPS? |
| 14:57.18 | bender-RW- | thats what i do |
| 14:57.37 | Curalton | replacing the battery makes the ibook stand unstable |
| 14:57.46 | Curalton | and the front plastic is loose then |
| 14:58.00 | Curalton | it depends on the battery stabilizing it |
| 14:58.18 | Curalton | UPS functionality is not needed here, power supply is reliable enough in europe :) |
| 14:59.26 | bender-RW- | well my iBook isn't in mint condition anyway so i hardly notice :-) |
| 15:00.03 | Curalton | i just got the logic board replacement, and the casing is still fine, so i dont want to break it more than necessary |
| 15:00.48 | bender-RW- | ah yes, i've got one thats older than the ones with the logic board problem |
| 15:01.07 | Curalton | got yours replaced already? the program ends in march |
| 15:01.40 | bender-RW- | i've got an older model that doesn't suffer from the problem |
| 15:01.56 | bender-RW- | it's a couple of years old already |
| 15:02.01 | Curalton | ah, kk :) |
| 15:05.19 | pahartik | Curalton: it is only for iBook G3 models? |
| 15:06.33 | Curalton | yes |
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| 17:05.35 | karim | I switched to xorg, and I have better graphic performances on this G3 b&w |
| 17:06.03 | dj-death | :) |
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| 18:27.23 | karim | does anyone have created .debs from IBM java packages ? |
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| 18:59.21 | simonrvn | karim: yes, and they're not redistributable |
| 19:02.31 | karim | I am trying to update alternatives |
| 19:02.40 | karim | I guess I must create the symlinks at hand |
| 19:42.38 | karim | crapppppppppppppppppppppppp |
| 19:42.59 | karim | they don't want us to get their java ibm or something |
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| 20:26.23 | Madjic | hi |
| 20:26.55 | Madjic | i have problems creating boot disks for PPC Power Macintosh G3 |
| 20:28.34 | Madjic | i downloaded the right files, put em on the floppys, but it doesn't boot from it |
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| 20:52.08 | Madjic | is there maybe a key I have to press so it boots from floppy? |
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| 21:02.00 | simonrvn | Madjic: no |
| 21:02.22 | simonrvn | boot.bin first (if using sarge) boot-hfs.img if woody |
| 21:03.43 | Madjic | it gives me an error, if i want to put it on disk with Disk creator, so I used suntar |
| 21:03.59 | Madjic | is it possible, that it's a broken file? |
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| 21:11.20 | simonrvn | more likely the floppy is bad enough to have the machine not accept it |
| 21:12.24 | Q-FUNK | flawpee |
| 21:12.37 | simonrvn | hah :) |
| 21:12.46 | simonrvn | i like that |
| 21:12.59 | Q-FUNK | :) |
| 21:13.29 | simonrvn | in fact i'd recommend using suntar. much better at making floppies, and it can make floppies disk copy will refuse to even see |
| 21:21.55 | Madjic | tried many floppys |
| 21:22.42 | Madjic | is it right the boot.bin is only 756k? |
| 21:25.25 | simonrvn | re-download it. it's at least 1.2 MB |
| 21:26.26 | Madjic | ok |
| 21:27.18 | Madjic | hmm, where was it from.... |
| 21:27.54 | Madjic | found a img here, is that also possible? |
| 21:28.56 | simonrvn | um, what are you talking about specifically? |
| 21:28.56 | Madjic | http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/2005-02-23/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ << That right? |
| 21:29.31 | simonrvn | ah ok |
| 21:29.50 | simonrvn | you need at least 3, boot, root, and the net-drivers |
| 21:31.04 | Madjic | o, thanks, i would have downloaded only boot and root |
| 21:32.41 | simonrvn | when it asks you to load drivers from a floppy, eject the root.bin flawpee, then insert the net-drivers one |
| 21:36.08 | jaska | floppy, ugh :P |
| 21:36.51 | Madjic | ok |
| 21:36.56 | simonrvn | *grin*. i hate 'em too |
| 21:37.13 | Madjic | who doesn't? |
| 21:37.44 | simonrvn | people trying to boot from them :P |
| 21:41.28 | liiwi | well, still only way to install oldworld |
| 21:41.46 | Madjic | crap |
| 21:41.47 | simonrvn | yup |
| 21:43.14 | Madjic | is it different from normal PC installation? |
| 21:43.33 | simonrvn | explain "different" |
| 21:43.42 | simonrvn | explain "normal" |
| 21:44.51 | Madjic | well, is there anything that's not self-explaining or logical |
| 21:45.18 | Madjic | i have never installed anything on a mac yet |
| 21:46.16 | simonrvn | @sarge install guide |
| 21:46.18 | ravenbird | go see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ for the install guide. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html |
| 21:47.38 | Madjic | oki |
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| 21:57.30 | Madjic | ah |
| 21:57.35 | Madjic | now it works :D |
| 21:57.45 | Madjic | thx for your help |
| 21:57.53 | simonrvn | np |
| 21:59.06 | Madjic | hmmm |
| 21:59.35 | Madjic | problems with the video output... |
| 22:01.19 | simonrvn | try an earlier version, like from last month, and report the bug. #debian-boot for more info |
| 22:01.46 | Madjic | ok |
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| 22:07.35 | Madjic | all disks or only the boot? |
| 22:18.43 | simonrvn | the boot one to start |
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| 22:31.56 | Madjic | hmm, last month doesn't work |
| 22:32.07 | Madjic | when was the release of sarge? |
| 22:32.21 | aba | sarge is not released. |
| 22:33.35 | Madjic | oh, year, i forgot it's a beta |
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