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| 00:59.57 | Darod | I can't solve a problem I have with bootsplash on powerpc (Seems a depth issue) |
| 01:05.26 | pahartik | Darod: do you currently have default functional "bootsplash" image? |
| 01:06.44 | Darod | pahartik, Well, functional... the image is buggy |
| 01:07.12 | Darod | You can see it quite well, but many strange color dots are drawn too |
| 01:07.17 | pahartik | Darod: but if it works, put it on server and share URL with us? |
| 01:07.56 | Darod | pahartik, Put what? I didn't do anything, only patched my kernel with the last bootsplash patch |
| 01:08.32 | Darod | I'm not a programmer, only a user (Actually with a lot of problems (vga-out, sleep, bootsplash... none work right) |
| 01:08.49 | pahartik | Darod: so there is no image that works... |
| 01:09.13 | Darod | pahartik, Many people have bootsplash worked on powerpc, I have some issues with the depth |
| 01:09.48 | Darod | It seems that my framebuffer is at 16 bpp (I can't change) and the bootsplash jpeg are at 24bpp, so there are some issues to display them |
| 01:10.03 | Darod | pahartik, www.bootsplash.de , try the last patch |
| 01:26.37 | pahartik | Darod: i checked out some JPEG images... some use 8 bits per colour, others are 16 bits per colour |
| 01:27.41 | randyg | hmm, 16bpp jpeg? |
| 01:28.23 | Mias | why does my 2.6.8 not see my ibook2- lan-device at boot-time? (wlan seems ok) |
| 01:29.52 | randyg | bah, I seem to have forgotten too much of the jpeg spec. I didn't know it allowed anything other than greyscale, 24, and 48bpp. :) |
| 01:30.25 | pahartik | randyg: per colour component, i think |
| 01:31.22 | randyg | jpeg is funky, since the stored data is the discrete cosine transform (fourier missing the sine term), strongly quantized... bpp makes little sense then. :) |
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| 01:42.12 | randyg | mrrf! what is the "Cell" CPU, and where do I get one? :) |
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| 02:18.04 | mach_zero | msg nickserv help set password |
| 02:18.43 | randyg | mach_zero: don't forget the / when you actually go to set the password. :) |
| 02:19.27 | mach_zero | Thanks - realized to my horror after I hit send ;) |
| 02:27.40 | mach_zero | Would anyone like to field a total newb question? |
| 02:27.56 | randyg | just ask. :P |
| 02:28.04 | mach_zero | K - here goes |
| 02:28.35 | mach_zero | Just installed Sarge semi-successfully on 14" iBook G4 933 |
| 02:29.05 | mach_zero | Everyting went fairly well for first install |
| 02:29.36 | mach_zero | Installed xfree86 and KDE and all went well |
| 02:29.57 | mach_zero | except that when I boot into KDE I get 800x600 display |
| 02:30.28 | mach_zero | When I try to set to 1024x768 in Control Center, screen goes nuts |
| 02:30.39 | chrisa | Your X config is screwed up then |
| 02:30.53 | mach_zero | Looked at my xf86config and all looks fairly normal |
| 02:30.56 | chrisa | http://linux.nullcode.org/ibook%20g4/XF86Config-4.yarou |
| 02:31.02 | chrisa | That's what I use for the same model |
| 02:31.19 | mach_zero | K - I will chaeck it out |
| 02:32.04 | mach_zero | I couldn't find one on line that matched my exact model so I tried to adjust it best I could from other iBook user's xconfig |
| 02:32.10 | mach_zero | Thanks chrisa |
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| 03:42.59 | pahartik | "Sonnet Presto gigabit ethernet"... which Linux driver? |
| 03:45.03 | randyg | do you have the card handy? check the chipset? |
| 03:46.27 | pahartik | randyg: just noticed that they are available at local store... |
| 03:51.36 | pahartik | randyg: i want 64 bit PCI card with SCSI, IEEE-1394 and gigabit ethernet :) |
| 03:52.15 | randyg | drivers/net/wd.c <== I think that one |
| 03:57.24 | pahartik | randyg: damn that |
| 03:57.27 | randyg | CONFIG_WD80x3 |
| 03:57.47 | randyg | I _think_ it's the right one. check their return policy first though. :P |
| 04:01.49 | randyg | I've never had a motherboard with 64bit pci, nor a card to plug into one... |
| 04:03.36 | pahartik | randyg: all new PowerMacintosh models have had 64 bit PCI since... at least two years ago |
| 04:05.12 | randyg | I don't own anything newer than 2 years ago, and the only thing I have resembling ppc hardware is a tube of 68hc11 cpus. :) |
| 04:05.38 | pahartik | randyg: (back then my brother got PowerMacintosh G4 MDD with two PowerPC 7455 CPUs) |
| 04:06.19 | randyg | something seems fishy there... "Sonnet Presto gigabit ethernet" comes up as ge1000, ge1000 seems to point to a wd8013 chipset... but the wd8013-based cards appear to be all ISA, and unlikely to be gigabit. |
| 04:06.25 | pahartik | randyg: ...and that is why i have this PowerMacintosh 5500 now... |
| 04:07.43 | pahartik | randyg: i immediately thought that suggestion about "drivers/net/wd.c" was joke |
| 04:08.24 | randyg | I'm just repeating what google says. :) |
| 04:08.55 | randyg | in this case, some mailing list posting |
| 04:11.15 | pahartik | randyg: just wanting to know because i am sure there are still some crappy legacy design in some gigabit ethernet adapters |
| 04:12.06 | pahartik | randyg: i could imagine "R8169" to be one of those |
| 04:14.28 | randyg | drivers/net/fealnx.c <== looks better. :) |
| 04:15.49 | randyg | CONFIG_FEALNX |
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| 04:20.15 | randyg | except that might be the wrong brand... |
| 04:20.26 | randyg | there seem to be about 20 different cards with the model number "ge1000" :) |
| 04:21.10 | pahartik | randyg: that driver is not in gigabit section either |
| 04:21.23 | randyg | I can't find that driver, period... |
| 04:22.18 | randyg | ah, it's under Tulip |
| 04:22.18 | pahartik | randyg: same thing here, no references around |
| 04:23.01 | randyg | CONFIG_R8169 <== last try. :) |
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| 04:27.39 | randyg | this would be much easier if you could actually look at the card. :) |
| 04:28.39 | pahartik | randyg: yes, i do not intend to buy without knowing which chip it is based on |
| 04:29.34 | randyg | I have found 3 references to it being the r8169, but nothing definitive... |
| 04:29.50 | randyg | although one implied he had it workind under redhat |
| 04:30.29 | randyg | working |
| 04:30.31 | pahartik | randyg: that chip would be out of the question |
| 04:30.44 | gtx | is anyone here familiar with the ANS (apple network server) ? |
| 04:30.53 | randyg | out of the question as in I have the wrong chip, or out of the question as in it's crap? |
| 04:31.16 | pahartik | randyg: as in "not interested" |
| 04:31.21 | randyg | heh |
| 04:31.27 | randyg | I like anything cheap. :) |
| 04:32.40 | randyg | although I've never found a need for gigabit around my house... no hard drive I have can write at 100mbit, much less 1000mbit. |
| 04:34.09 | pahartik | randyg: cheap crap is too often made in awful factory far away, by persons not treated well or paid enough... and so on |
| 04:35.07 | randyg | lol |
| 04:35.17 | pahartik | randyg: being able to move gigabit per second would not be my point |
| 04:36.05 | randyg | I have a pile of 100mbit nics... every time I see one at a garage sale I buy it, if it's $1 or less. probably have around 30 now... |
| 04:38.02 | pahartik | randyg: for example, if good 100 megabit ethernet adapter moves 3,5 megabytes per second and good 1000 megabit adapter moves 4,5 megabytes per second in my setup, i find it well worth it |
| 04:38.29 | randyg | I rarely max out my network, and when I do, it's usually something where a wait is ok. |
| 04:38.46 | randyg | I only switched to 100mbit a year or so ago... |
| 04:39.02 | randyg | before that I had all my 100mbit nics plugged into a 10mbit hub. |
| 04:40.13 | pahartik | randyg: i have not had 100 megabit switch for very long time... maybe for three years by now |
| 04:41.45 | pahartik | randyg: i still have some hosts on thin ethernet segment (which is connected to switch through media converter) |
| 04:42.50 | randyg | heh. one of my (non-computer-skilled) relatives still uses thinwire... I gave him two media converters (one a standalone box, another a 8-port hub with a thinwire plug on it), and have been slowly moving him to 10baseT. |
| 04:43.28 | pahartik | randyg: since i move DVB content between hosts nowadays, higher speed is nice |
| 04:43.38 | randyg | I think right now he only has one box and a printer on the thinwire. |
| 04:44.38 | randyg | not much into TV... |
| 04:46.36 | randyg | only big files here are my red dwarf, blackadder, and father of the pride collections, and someone else's collection of girl-doing-guy videos. |
| 04:46.50 | randyg | plus 90gb of mp3s. :) |
| 04:47.03 | pahartik | randyg: i prefer to use timed recordings to catch animation and science fiction... |
| 04:48.39 | randyg | what kind of science fiction? |
| 04:48.40 | pahartik | randyg: and i do not use MPEG audio layer 3 for any content... |
| 04:48.55 | randyg | I use mp3, because that's what you can download easily. :) |
| 04:49.39 | randyg | I own about half of my mp3 collection (legally). |
| 04:49.48 | randyg | just I own it all on vinyl... |
| 04:50.11 | randyg | no way in hell I'm re-buying something I already paid for. :) |
| 04:51.02 | pahartik | randyg: at the moment Star Trek, Farscape |
| 04:51.57 | randyg | TOS rules. *dons flameproof suit* |
| 04:53.25 | randyg | happen to be a red dwarf fan? |
| 04:54.03 | pahartik | randyg: i do not know |
| 04:55.42 | randyg | red dwarf is a british comedy scifi... the last human alive (liverpudlian), a humanoid cat, a hologram of a smeghead bunkmate, and a paranoid, slightly insane android, in various outer-space-related adventures. |
| 04:56.46 | pahartik | randyg: i like "Koala Brothers", "Digimon"... |
| 04:57.15 | randyg | and a completely senile ship's computer. |
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| 04:57.30 | randyg | never heard of the first one, don't think I like the second one... |
| 04:59.27 | pahartik | randyg: damn, i cannot remember other recently broadcasted animation series, but there has been many that i liked |
| 05:01.00 | randyg | only animation I've liked... Father of the Pride, Simpsons, Family Guy, The Critic, Gary and Mike (I _think_ that was the name), umm... at one point I watched disney's robin hood too many times, but that was mostly for the fur content. :) |
| 05:01.00 | pahartik | randyg: "Sitting Ducks" |
| 05:02.40 | randyg | hmm, all those shows seem to be aimed at the 3-8 years age group? :) |
| 05:02.41 | pahartik | randyg: i have never seen that |
| 05:04.20 | pahartik | randyg: age does not matter |
| 05:04.38 | randyg | Father of the Pride... adult CG animated furry TV series. the life of a family of lions vaguely involved with sigfreid and roy's vegas act. lots of sex, drugs, etc. plus a couple hot female lions, lesbian gophers making out, etc. :) |
| 05:05.24 | randyg | Shrek-quality animation |
| 05:05.25 | pahartik | randyg: interesting |
| 05:08.25 | randyg | the last episode I watched was the female lion co-star gets sexually aroused by her husband (the star, voiced by john goodman) stealing from the neighbors, along with their son going slightly insane, with a good "my precious!" scene with him covetting a gopher he has tied up. notable quotes included "are we still pretending he's not gay?" |
| 05:12.03 | randyg | sadly, every time they start making out, they either jump on top of each other (and below the camera) or the camera pans away... |
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| 05:12.58 | pahartik | randyg: is there problem with that? |
| 05:13.40 | randyg | yes. :P |
| 05:16.19 | randyg | like any of the other ones on the list? family guy, the critic, gary and mike, etc? |
| 05:20.08 | pahartik | randyg: "Family Guy" has probably been broadcasted around here, but i do not know if i have seen any of it |
| 05:21.37 | randyg | probably haven't... it's pretty hard to miss. |
| 05:22.08 | randyg | I know I've seen more than that, just can't remember any of them at the moment. |
| 05:22.55 | randyg | I'm not much of a tv fan, so haven't seen very many shows. |
| 05:25.41 | pahartik | randyg: i prefer to take look at all new animations and then schedule recording timers for them... if they were good |
| 05:25.45 | randyg | and somehow shows I like always get canceled... |
| 05:27.52 | pahartik | randyg: i usually watch "Sopranos" without recording it, while bouncing to some techno/trance tracks on radio |
| 05:28.13 | randyg | I think we like different shows and different music. :P |
| 05:28.33 | pahartik | randyg: radio being more important |
| 05:28.54 | randyg | I never listen to the radio... nothing good on it. |
| 05:29.38 | pahartik | randyg: i listen to two national non-commercial stations |
| 05:30.24 | randyg | I listen mostly to 70's rock... can't stand pop. |
| 05:31.44 | pahartik | randyg: second one is only available as digital broadcast (DAB and DVB), and it was my primary reason to get DVB tuner... time-shifting was just bonus, along with some digital-only television content |
| 05:32.49 | pahartik | randyg: i cannot stand restrictive playlists |
| 05:33.53 | pahartik | randyg: images at http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Father_of_the_Pride/downloads/ looked interesting enough |
| 05:35.10 | randyg | back, sorry about that. needed to rebuild the fire. |
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| 05:42.37 | randyg | I should see what I can get dvb tuners for, then sell them for double on ebay... |
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| 06:26.38 | injapan | hello everyone |
| 06:27.11 | injapan | noone here? |
| 06:27.25 | adhoc | evenen |
| 06:27.37 | injapan | aha |
| 06:27.53 | injapan | it lives! |
| 06:28.01 | randyg | lol |
| 06:28.12 | adhoc | shhhh ... they are mostly asleep |
| 06:28.20 | injapan | righto |
| 06:28.25 | adhoc | wassup? |
| 06:28.37 | injapan | any g4 tower ubuntu using australians here? |
| 06:28.56 | adhoc | im running ubuntu on my g3 imac |
| 06:28.56 | randyg | why does being an aussie matter? :P |
| 06:29.04 | injapan | come on hands up ! |
| 06:29.08 | injapan | :) |
| 06:29.26 | adhoc | randyg: prolly the same time zone? |
| 06:29.33 | injapan | yup |
| 06:29.44 | injapan | also i only speak english :) |
| 06:30.12 | injapan | ubuntu is pretty nice |
| 06:31.04 | injapan | im trying to track down the elusive nvidia driver to its lair |
| 06:31.18 | randyg | woohoo/d'oh! I don't think I have work tomorrow. Woohoo since I get to stay home. D'oh since I haven't had work half of the last pay period, and it's not paying the bills... |
| 06:31.48 | adhoc | injapan: i expect you could try getting the source packages from backports.org. |
| 06:32.00 | adhoc | injapan: but i have not done that in months... |
| 06:32.11 | injapan | dont think there is such a beast for ppc |
| 06:32.50 | injapan | unfortunately its the only thing keeping me from moving my main puter to linux |
| 06:33.02 | randyg | I'm still pissed at nvidia for giving a binary-only driver... worse than no driver. if they released no driver, an open source one would likely be created. |
| 06:33.33 | injapan | i didnt know howard ate babies ! ah learning is cool |
| 06:33.59 | injapan | there is a binary driver for ppc? |
| 06:34.23 | randyg | probably not |
| 06:34.26 | randyg | haven't looked |
| 06:34.42 | randyg | only nvidia card I have is in a x86 box |
| 06:36.16 | injapan | only i386 on nackports |
| 06:37.38 | adhoc | injapan: surely there is source packages there too. |
| 06:37.55 | adhoc | i've grabbed stuff for my ibm7248 which is PPC |
| 06:41.19 | injapan | unfortunately im a total newb i wouldnt know what to do with a source :) |
| 06:41.29 | injapan | would it be possible to compile it for ppc? |
| 06:42.29 | adhoc | which g4 is it? |
| 06:42.38 | adhoc | and which nvidia is it? |
| 06:43.22 | injapan | its a geforce4 mx 440 in a quicksilver tower |
| 06:43.32 | injapan | 7440 g4 is it? |
| 06:45.00 | injapan | i rather like linux after all these years with macs and the horrible windows |
| 06:45.59 | adhoc | indeed. |
| 06:46.09 | adhoc | anyhow i gotta go, catchy later. |
| 06:46.14 | injapan | k |
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