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| 00:30.35 | Wowzer | hello all...is there a maximum uptime for debian? As in, do I need to restart for any particular reasons? |
| 00:31.37 | Curalton | no, nothing like this |
| 00:32.08 | Wowzer | excellent...I've had it up for 175 days...just was curious... |
| 00:32.25 | Curalton | why should they just say "ok, 180days, ill terminate myself" :) |
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| 00:33.01 | Wowzer | dunno...was hoping that there wasn't anything like a memory leak (or something) if a system is left up without a restart...just curious... |
| 00:33.46 | Curalton | no, i doubt the kernel has any memory leaks nowadays, it's come quite a long way |
| 00:36.19 | pahartik | Curalton: i had to forcefully restart my PowerMacintosh 7300 some days ago after less than 20 days of uptime |
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| 00:38.08 | Wowzer | thx all...logging. |
| 00:39.22 | pahartik | Curalton: first it refused to run "setiathome" anymore, then other applications started failing too, within few days it did not even get successful shutdown |
| 00:40.32 | pahartik | Curalton: maybe something is broken in linuxtv-dvb 1.0.1 drivers... |
| 00:49.28 | Curalton | trying stuff like preempt? |
| 00:49.39 | Curalton | i hear with it it goes all downhill after a few days |
| 00:51.33 | pahartik | Curalton: DVB server is running on Linux 2.4.27 here... |
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| 00:52.21 | ShadowRage | http://www-astro.phys.metro-u.ac.jp/users/masai/stuff/Darwin_boot2.gif <---- how do I get to that? |
| 00:55.37 | ShadowRage | how do I get into the advanced options in mac os 7? |
| 00:59.15 | pahartik | ShadowRage: is that image part of some document? |
| 01:00.33 | ShadowRage | yeah, but for darwin |
| 01:00.43 | ShadowRage | http://www-astro.phys.metro-u.ac.jp/users/masai/darwin0.html |
| 01:03.17 | pahartik | ShadowRage: if you are running linux, "nvsetenv... but MacOS 7... |
| 01:05.59 | pahartik | ShadowRage: maybe "http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/SystemDisk-tutorial/" would help... |
| 01:06.26 | ShadowRage | because I have linux on there |
| 01:06.42 | ShadowRage | and I'm trying to make it the only thing to boot up instead of mac os |
| 01:08.27 | pahartik | ShadowRage: possibly with "quik" or "yaboot" then, but in either case "nvsetenv" in Linux would be enough to set up OpenFirmware to boot Linux directly |
| 01:08.55 | ShadowRage | I have done so before |
| 01:09.00 | ShadowRage | but now I forgot the settings |
| 01:11.32 | pahartik | ShadowRage: for example, "boot-device scsi-int/sd@1:0" |
| 01:11.57 | ShadowRage | did that |
| 01:12.07 | ShadowRage | it doesn't boot to linux still |
| 01:12.45 | ShadowRage | I tried setting the boot-command to boot scsi-int/sd@0:6 |
| 01:12.52 | ShadowRage | no prevail |
| 01:19.30 | pahartik | ShadowRage: i can only recommend looking at related documents at "http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/" and making sure that quik is installed |
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| 02:07.12 | skel | well I found out how to get flash on linuxppc :-P |
| 02:07.36 | skel | actually its not "on linux ppc" but through qemu |
| 02:07.49 | skel | but its dog slow if your resources are lacking |
| 02:08.32 | skel | but I really do like that metropipe portable linux on a thumbdrive |
| 02:15.10 | chrisa | I've never considered having flash to be a good thing |
| 02:16.13 | Curalton | "MOL is a giant flash player for linux on ppc" |
| 02:17.04 | Shadow_Rage | anyone here have a powermac 8500? |
| 02:25.55 | Shadow_Rage | ... |
| 02:30.58 | arcady | flash is occasionally useful |
| 02:31.53 | arcady | and it's a pain that it won't work on ppc |
| 02:33.33 | arcady | but there are many other things that I'd rather have... like nvidia drivers |
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| 02:40.07 | Shadow_Rage | question |
| 02:40.17 | Shadow_Rage | what is the command to get into open firmware? |
| 02:43.00 | Piru | depends on the hardware I guess |
| 02:44.01 | Shadow_Rage | power macintosh 8500 |
| 02:47.08 | Piru | I guess it's command-option-O-F |
| 02:48.02 | Shadow_Rage | what is command? |
| 02:48.07 | Shadow_Rage | the apple key? |
| 02:48.10 | Piru | "power on the machine, and during the chime, hold down the four Command-Option-O-F keys until the screen turns black, grey, or white." |
| 02:48.29 | Piru | beats me, never owned a mac |
| 02:51.13 | arcady | command-option-o-f |
| 02:51.16 | arcady | BUT |
| 02:51.32 | arcady | oh way, he's gone... |
| 02:51.43 | arcady | but he'll get his open firmware |
| 02:51.49 | arcady | on the first serial port too |
| 02:52.11 | skel | nvidia is the devil |
| 03:00.13 | arcady | is it now? |
| 03:02.04 | skel | oh yes |
| 03:02.21 | skel | just a shy less evil than broadcom |
| 03:03.44 | Piru | they are evil |
| 03:05.26 | chrisa | Incorrect, nvidia is much less evil |
| 03:05.33 | chrisa | They at least provide a driver |
| 03:05.49 | chrisa | It may be closed and only work on one architecture, but it's there |
