| 00:01.47 | weasel | I had to reinstall my ibook and now the keys for brightness control etc don't work anymore |
| 00:01.53 | weasel | any idea what I might have wrong? |
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| 00:15.41 | weasel | does pbbuttonsd even work on 2.6? |
| 00:16.39 | dude | weasel: without problems |
| 00:17.28 | weasel | I wonder why it doesn't do a thing for me then |
| 00:17.40 | weasel | it used to work on my old setup with a different kernel |
| 00:17.57 | dude | weasel: ya tried w/ adn |
| 00:18.08 | dude | weasel: and w/o fn ? |
| 00:18.47 | weasel | adn? |
| 00:18.55 | dude | and |
| 00:19.14 | weasel | yes, no reaction |
| 00:19.50 | dude | pgrep pbbut |
| 00:20.08 | weasel | it is running |
| 00:21.13 | dude | guessing ... check config, check is keyboards sends the keycodes listed in config ... |
| 00:21.41 | dude | s/is/if/ |
| 00:21.46 | weasel | it's the same config as before. how do I check the keycodes on the console? |
| 00:22.12 | dude | showkey |
| 00:24.12 | comar | the topic ends with "but rsync -avz source.mvista.com::linuxppc-2.5-benh linuxppc-2.5-benh if you're" ... |
| 00:24.20 | comar | if you're what ? |
| 00:24.26 | comar | drunk ? |
| 00:26.23 | weasel | dude: hmm, the keycodes in the config don't match what showkeys shows |
| 00:26.55 | weasel | dude: but showkeys' and xev's codes don't work either |
| 00:31.45 | dude | weasel: sec |
| 00:33.11 | dude | weasel: gives this a shot; I'm out for today - http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/keycodes |
| 00:34.21 | weasel | thanks, but I don't think that's the problem. |
| 00:36.42 | sourdough | the console wouldn't work if it wre |
| 00:36.42 | sourdough | adbkeycodes are gone forever in 2.6 |
| 00:36.46 | simonrvn | it's weird in 2.4, i can't see the fancy xfree 4.3 cursors, but in 2.6 i can |
| 00:37.10 | simonrvn | so i have this big red translucent curosor, with a drop shadow |
| 00:37.15 | simonrvn | cursor* |
| 00:37.36 | simonrvn | sourdough: yay for that :) |
| 00:37.55 | weasel | danube:~# /etc/init.d/pbbuttonsd stop |
| 00:37.55 | weasel | Stopping pbbuttonsd: pbbuttonsd. |
| 00:37.56 | weasel | now it works |
| 00:38.22 | weasel | at least brightness |
| 00:38.26 | simonrvn | 2.6.0-ben1 |
| 00:38.29 | weasel | yes |
| 00:38.31 | simonrvn | sourdough: ^^ |
| 00:38.53 | simonrvn | oldworld (as you know) |
| 00:38.59 | comar | bighawk: can you tell us the end of the topic ? |
| 00:40.30 | sourdough | simonrvn interesting |
| 00:40.30 | sourdough | comar there is no end of the topic |
| 00:40.40 | weasel | TINT |
| 00:40.42 | sourdough | whoever set it was drunk |
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| 00:42.22 | comar | sourdough: ??? |
| 00:42.52 | comar | rsync blah ... if you're what ? |
| 00:43.06 | sourdough | it was not bighawk orignally |
| 00:43.17 | weasel | into bleeding edge, if you're prefering rsync over http, think of something |
| 00:43.18 | comar | Topic for #debianppc set by bighawk at Tue Dec 23 08:27:23 |
| 00:43.26 | weasel | a little bit imagination and you can build the sentence yourself |
| 00:43.28 | sourdough | he didn't change anything |
| 00:43.48 | sourdough | probably fucked it up by accidient then just reset it to what it was before |
| 00:44.12 | sourdough | mainline 2.6 works for most people |
| 00:44.15 | weasel | n8 |
| 00:45.46 | comar | ok I'm not stone enough to rsync it ;P |
| 00:48.42 | comar | ok if I understand this enigma, I can rsync the 2.6.0 from source.mvista.com::linuxppc-2.5-benh in my linuxppc-2.5-benh directory... cool. |
| 00:56.20 | sourdough | anyone know of a midi player that works on powerpc |
| 01:01.10 | simonrvn | xine maybe? |
| 01:03.06 | sourdough | way overkill |
| 01:03.23 | sourdough | soon as you run it it happily fucks up the entire X session too |
| 01:05.15 | sourdough | ive got someone who wants those webpages that have a soundtrack to work |
| 01:05.28 | sourdough | they seem to just shoot a midi file and expect the brower to take care of playing it |
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| 01:46.14 | dreamind | Hi |
| 01:48.02 | arcady | hello |
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| 02:09.23 | spacecowboy | JimButton hey |
| 02:09.29 | spacecowboy | JimButton i just got an ipod |
| 02:09.42 | JimButton | hi |
| 02:09.43 | spacecowboy | JimButton i heard you have some gtkpod smarts |
| 02:09.44 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 02:09.48 | JimButton | spacecowboy: he, yeah :) |
| 02:09.54 | JimButton | all filed as bugs already :) |
| 02:10.00 | JimButton | with two patches |
| 02:10.28 | JimButton | spacecowboy: which one did you get? also the 40G one? |
| 02:11.06 | spacecowboy | no |
| 02:11.09 | spacecowboy | the 20 gb one |
| 02:11.10 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 02:11.18 | spacecowboy | well my mother got it for me for xmas |
| 02:11.22 | spacecowboy | see i'm still 15 ;p |
| 02:11.23 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 02:11.27 | spacecowboy | merry xmas btw |
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| 02:17.55 | spacecowboy | Curalton, hey :) |
| 02:18.08 | spacecowboy | Curalton, how do i add dcc stuff to the lower bar of irssi tom? |
| 02:18.13 | spacecowboy | and get rid of the topic bar ? |
| 02:18.31 | spacecowboy | JimButton, back :) |
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| 02:19.16 | Curalton | spacecowboy: sorry, don't know that :) |
| 02:19.29 | Jim_Button | re |
| 02:19.31 | Jim_Button | got disconnected |
| 02:19.45 | spacecowboy | simonrvn, you know how? |
| 02:20.30 | spacecowboy | how do i remount something rw |
| 02:21.06 | TheBonsai | with the remount option |
| 02:21.45 | Curalton | mount / -o remount,rw |
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| 02:23.41 | spacecowboy | :)uhh |
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| 02:23.59 | spacecowboy | this is weird |
| 02:24.58 | spacecowboy | anyways |
| 02:25.18 | Jim_Button | spacecowboy: have you already converted your iPod filesystem to FAT, or was it already? |
| 02:25.33 | spacecowboy | no |
| 02:25.36 | spacecowboy | its hfsplus |
| 02:25.51 | spacecowboy | and i have it mounted readonly with the driver for linux built from 2.6.0 |
| 02:25.56 | spacecowboy | cepts its bitching now |
| 02:26.03 | spacecowboy | about being read only |
| 02:26.20 | Jim_Button | yeah, hfsplus write support is scary |
| 02:26.24 | Jim_Button | i converted mine to FAT |
| 02:26.30 | spacecowboy | why? |
| 02:26.40 | Jim_Button | experimental and probably buggy |
| 02:26.46 | spacecowboy | should i, will it just make it easier? |
| 02:27.04 | Jim_Button | in principle FAT is easier, yes |
| 02:27.07 | spacecowboy | because i have all of my stuff on it now cept for a few songs |
| 02:27.17 | Jim_Button | oh |
| 02:27.21 | spacecowboy | yea |
| 02:27.22 | Jim_Button | you will lose all that |
| 02:27.43 | Jim_Button | then don't know, try HFS+ if you dare |
| 02:28.16 | spacecowboy | ive already dared |
| 02:29.46 | Jim_Button | how did you add all your songs? with gnupod_addsong or with iTunes? |
| 02:30.22 | spacecowboy | i switched my hd back to my itunes |
| 02:30.26 | spacecowboy | well |
| 02:30.27 | spacecowboy | osx |
| 02:30.33 | spacecowboy | which is a pain |
| 02:30.39 | spacecowboy | and sent them all over |
| 02:30.44 | spacecowboy | not doing that again ;p |
| 02:31.41 | Jim_Button | well, gnupod is also still kind of buggy |
| 02:31.46 | Jim_Button | but in principle a nice thing |
| 02:32.26 | Jim_Button | there is still the problem with illegal characters, sometimes the ID3 tags seem to contain strange characters which end up in the XML file and mess up the parsing |
| 02:34.30 | Jim_Button | and to use gnupod now you will have to generate the XML file, and i advise you to apply my patch before you do that |
| 02:35.27 | Jim_Button | in fact, both patches from #224886 and #225052 |
| 02:38.20 | Jim_Button | i have already more than 5000 songs on this ibook, rebuilding the database always takes damn long |
| 02:38.25 | Jim_Button | ipod |
| 02:38.28 | Jim_Button | not ibook :) |
| 02:39.30 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 02:39.41 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 02:39.51 | spacecowboy | everyone is using 2.4.23-pre5-ben0 now |
| 02:42.08 | Jim_Button | Linux lgeyermac 2.4.23-pre5-ben0 #1 Thu Dec 4 22:33:20 EST 2003 ppc unknown |
| 02:42.10 | Jim_Button | well... |
| 02:42.12 | Jim_Button | yes |
| 02:42.41 | Jim_Button | the vanilla kernel gave me hard lockups on resume from sleep |
| 02:43.07 | Jim_Button | though i think i patched the local root hole here manually from benh's kernel |
| 02:43.22 | Jim_Button | IIRC, he did not have it patched at the time |
| 02:44.54 | spacecowboy | what is different about the vanilla kernel |
| 02:45.07 | spacecowboy | brb |
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| 02:45.36 | spacecowboy | back |
| 02:45.44 | spacecowboy | hey sourdough :) |
| 02:46.54 | spacecowboy | Jim_Button back :) |
| 02:47.16 | Jim_Button | spacecowboy: usually lots of things are different between vanilla and benh kernels |
| 02:47.36 | Jim_Button | spacecowboy: ben's patches get gradually integrated (usually), but that takes a while sometimes |
| 02:48.12 | spacecowboy | yea |
| 02:48.27 | spacecowboy | Jim_Button: i'm just trying to figure out what to run on my tibook |
| 02:48.27 | spacecowboy | so |
| 02:48.31 | spacecowboy | i'll hunt more and more ;p |
| 02:48.49 | spacecowboy | actually |
| 02:48.50 | spacecowboy | no |
| 02:48.54 | spacecowboy | to lazy at this point |
| 02:48.55 | Jim_Button | and vanilla makes a routine of breaking all other archs than i386 in some random fashion |
| 02:48.57 | spacecowboy | because i run xfs |
| 02:48.58 | spacecowboy | so |
| 02:48.59 | spacecowboy | well |
| 02:49.01 | spacecowboy | use xfs |
| 02:49.07 | Jim_Button | when they don't, i prefer vanilla |
| 02:49.11 | spacecowboy | why? |
| 02:49.16 | spacecowboy | what is vanilla |
| 02:49.22 | Jim_Button | the mainstream kernel |
| 02:49.28 | spacecowboy | oh |
| 02:49.31 | Jim_Button | maintained by marcelo |
| 02:49.31 | spacecowboy | ok |
| 02:49.33 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 02:49.35 | Jim_Button | tosatti(?) |
| 02:49.39 | Jim_Button | something like that |
| 02:49.40 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 02:50.12 | Jim_Button | i think they don't break other archs deliberately, but it happens, and it happens quite often |
| 02:50.49 | spacecowboy | well so now i'm at the i can do everything but write to hfsplus :( |
| 02:51.10 | Jim_Button | maybe your kernel doesn't have write support for HFS+ |
| 02:51.18 | spacecowboy | Jim_Button i believe it does |
| 02:51.23 | Jim_Button | it used to be marked as "VERY EXPERIMENTAL, BEWARE" |
| 02:51.26 | Jim_Button | or similar |
| 02:51.34 | spacecowboy | it just says that it wasn't happy about something |
| 02:52.09 | spacecowboy | it says Filesystem was cleanly unmounted.. leaving read-only |
| 02:52.44 | Jim_Button | unhappy about what? |
| 02:52.50 | Jim_Button | some more descriptive error message? |
| 02:53.20 | spacecowboy | thats all it said lol |
| 02:53.52 | Jim_Button | "Filesystem was cleanly unmounted.. leaving read-only" <--- like that, literally? |
| 02:54.02 | Jim_Button | what does "dmesg" say? |
| 02:55.10 | Jim_Button | at least that "error message" makes no sense at all |
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| 03:14.30 | benh | hrm |
| 03:14.47 | TheBonsai | y0 |
| 03:14.47 | benh | it's my mirror that is fucked or sid/ppc has stopped updating for a week or 2 ? |
| 03:14.53 | spacecowboy | benh yea |
| 03:15.11 | spacecowboy | benh hmm |
| 03:15.47 | simonrvn | which mirror you using? |
| 03:15.58 | spacecowboy | hmm well i have to go sleep |
| 03:16.01 | benh | ftp://photos:photos@samyaourt.dyndns.org/ |
| 03:16.03 | benh | oops |
| 03:16.03 | benh | no |
| 03:16.05 | benh | http://ftp.au.debian.org |
| 03:16.05 | benh | :) |
| 03:16.09 | simonrvn | heh |
| 03:16.27 | spacecowboy | brb |
| 03:16.30 | benh | spacecowboy: btw, you should update to -ben2, newer hfs+ & firewire codebase |
| 03:16.32 | simonrvn | should be ok.. i got updates today. |
| 03:16.33 | benh | argh |
| 03:16.51 | benh | simonrvn: didn't get any for the past 2 weeks |
| 03:17.04 | simonrvn | they haven't synced it seems. i saew some traffic on debian-devel re: .au mirror |
| 03:17.09 | sourdough | debian.org mirrors usually suck |
| 03:17.19 | simonrvn | it being not updated often, etc. |
| 03:17.32 | benh | hrm |
| 03:17.38 | sourdough | Jim_Button his kernel message was NOT cleanly umounted, leaving readonly |
| 03:17.40 | benh | need to find another .au mirror then |
| 03:17.55 | simonrvn | ask bob2 |
| 03:17.56 | benh | sourdough: yah, told him on another chan, but he left before reading it too ;) |
| 03:17.57 | Jim_Button | oh |
| 03:18.03 | Jim_Button | sourdough: that makes more sense |
| 03:18.09 | sourdough | Jim_Button he needs to run fsck on it |
| 03:18.18 | benh | fsck is part of hfsplusutils now ? |
| 03:18.24 | Jim_Button | i would still advise him to convert the ipod to FAT... |
| 03:18.27 | benh | looks like |
| 03:18.30 | simonrvn | benh: ask bob2. he's got a good touch re: debian stuff, and he's in .au |
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| 03:18.32 | sourdough | benh no its part of apples diskdev_cmds |
| 03:18.44 | sourdough | benh the fsck in hfsplusutils is phony |
| 03:18.52 | sourdough | hfsplusutils are completly read-only |
| 03:18.54 | Jim_Button | the hard disc of the ipod seems to be excruciatingly slow though |
| 03:18.57 | benh | sourdough: oh, we did have a port, it's not packaged yet ? |
| 03:19.11 | sourdough | benh Roman patched an old version yes |
| 03:19.21 | benh | ok |
| 03:19.26 | sourdough | the current version needs to be re-ported though |
| 03:19.33 | sourdough | apple has no clue about endianess |
| 03:19.33 | benh | that sucks |
| 03:19.38 | benh | :) |
| 03:19.50 | sourdough | thats why they just use UFS on x86 duhwin |
| 03:19.56 | benh | it should be possible to submit them such fixes |
| 03:20.03 | simonrvn | an old version of ufs it seems too |
| 03:20.07 | sourdough | benh yes, but they have no clue |
| 03:20.19 | sourdough | benh in some places they fixed the endian porblems roman fixes |
| 03:20.26 | sourdough | in others they removed already exising endian swapping |
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| 03:20.46 | sourdough | simonrvn its the OpenSTEP varient |
| 03:20.55 | simonrvn | nods |
| 03:21.11 | sourdough | benh i tried fixing the current version but gave up |
| 03:21.16 | sourdough | its too horrible code for me |
| 03:21.47 | sourdough | its litterly thousands of lines of code you have to read and add hundreds upon hundreds of byteswap macros to |
| 03:22.14 | simonrvn | oh you're so negative :P |
| 03:22.26 | sourdough | simonrvn thats exactly what it is, see foryourself |
| 03:22.30 | Jim_Button | simonrvn: look at the same code and stay positive :) |
| 03:22.42 | sourdough | its horridly ugly code |
| 03:22.43 | simonrvn | please note the ':P' |
| 03:22.53 | sourdough | and a horridly tedious task |
| 03:23.15 | benh | still a task we have to do sooner or later |
| 03:23.15 | sourdough | im far too depressed for that level of tedium (thats all i do at work is mind numbing boring tedium) |
| 03:23.31 | sourdough | benh if apple would actually mege it it would help |
| 03:23.38 | sourdough | but eithr roman didn't try, or apple won't |
| 03:23.39 | simonrvn | seriously though, yeh it's probably like you say, but benh has a point, it needs doing |
| 03:23.51 | sourdough | and they have developers activly REMOVING byteswapping |
| 03:24.06 | simonrvn | why are they doing that? why remove functionality? |
| 03:24.10 | Jim_Button | maybe they are payed by SCO or somebody... |
| 03:24.11 | sourdough | in any event you can ignore byteswap fixes if you only run on powerpc, but you still need to remove all the OSXism |
| 03:24.18 | simonrvn | Jim_Button: ha |
| 03:24.27 | sourdough | simonrvn tehy don't seem to understand the point of byteswapping |
| 03:24.39 | simonrvn | (portability of code..) |
| 03:24.50 | sourdough | simonrvn `ppc is big endian, hfs+ is big endian, so why do we do this?' |
| 03:25.14 | simonrvn | because you might need to run that on a little endian machine... |
| 03:25.24 | sourdough | they dno't care about such things |
| 03:25.31 | simonrvn | but we do :) |
| 03:25.37 | sourdough | yup |
| 03:25.45 | sourdough | which means we have to maintain huge patches for eternity |
| 03:25.54 | simonrvn | or they wise up |
| 03:26.01 | sourdough | not likely |
| 03:26.12 | simonrvn | can always hope they grow some |
| 03:26.23 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 03:26.36 | sourdough | getting patches merged to support normal unix is probably hard too |
| 03:26.50 | sourdough | its full of all this screwball CoreFuckdation cruft |
| 03:27.04 | simonrvn | they probably add coca stuff to it.. blah blah blah |
| 03:27.11 | simonrvn | cocoa* |
| 03:27.15 | Jim_Button | coca :) |
| 03:27.17 | sourdough | roman wrapped that with ifdef _____APPLE_____ |
| 03:27.19 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 03:27.31 | Jim_Button | simonrvn: maybe they are stoned all the time |
| 03:27.37 | simonrvn | haha |
| 03:27.39 | sourdough | probably |
| 03:27.50 | sourdough | maybe the DEA will pay them a visit |
| 03:28.28 | sourdough | owner of the company i work for just got arrested on federal drug charges |
| 03:28.50 | sourdough | and a couple weeks ago one of our night crew got swarmed by the DEA in the parking lot |
| 03:29.05 | simonrvn | ouch |
| 03:29.15 | Jim_Button | he, is it the feds cracking down on all those libertarians in alaska? :) |
| 03:29.16 | sourdough | rather ammusing really |
| 03:29.44 | sourdough | Jim_Button the owner was only a matter of time |
| 03:29.51 | sourdough | only thing that surprised me was that it took this long |
| 03:29.57 | sourdough | he is a real peice of shit |
| 03:30.06 | sourdough | hasn't been involved in the company for years |
| 03:30.15 | sourdough | other then making `withdrawls' from the safe regularly |
| 03:30.22 | sourdough | to buy drugs and whores |
| 03:31.07 | Jim_Button | and the other people running the company? |
| 03:31.07 | sourdough | yup |
| 03:31.07 | Jim_Button | they didn't care or didn't know? |
| 03:31.10 | sourdough | they know, but can do nothing |
| 03:31.17 | Jim_Button | that sucks |
| 03:31.19 | sourdough | he owns 51% of it, he can do whever the fsck he wants |
| 03:31.32 | Jim_Button | i wonder that the company still survived |
| 03:31.50 | sourdough | they don't expect this to make the slightest difference |
| 03:35.16 | Jim_Button | benh: which country? |
| 03:35.20 | benh | .au |
| 03:36.18 | Jim_Button | well, in germany everything is closed Dec 25 and 26 |
| 03:36.23 | Jim_Button | no idea about .au |
| 03:36.34 | Jim_Button | in the states probably only Dec 25 |
| 04:04.15 | sourdough | yeah think so |
| 04:04.47 | sourdough | banks on the other hand are closed for 7 days prior and after the 25th |
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| 04:08.12 | comar | is there someone with a g4 (1ghz not laptop) here ? Is it a way to solve the noisy fan? without a hammer please ;) |
| 04:10.41 | benh | comar: which model ? |
| 04:10.46 | benh | comar: quicksilver or windtunnel ? |
| 04:11.30 | comar | windtunnel |
| 04:12.49 | benh | ok, 2 things then |
| 04:13.01 | benh | there's a fan driver that makes things better hidden in my tree ;) |
| 04:13.15 | benh | and early windtunnels had noisy power supply, apple replaces it at no charge |
| 04:13.22 | comar | I'm looking for it for months ;) |
| 04:13.44 | comar | in macosx it is quiet |
| 04:14.32 | benh | obj-$(CONFIG_I2C) += therm_windtunnel.o |
| 04:14.32 | benh | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.39 | benh | add that to drivers/macintosh/Makefile |
| 04:14.45 | benh | (provided you use my 2.4, it's not in 2.6 yet) |
| 04:15.20 | comar | wow ! I try it right now |
| 04:15.24 | benh | (or add a specific config option) |
| 04:15.42 | benh | you need i2c and i2c-keywest. if i2c is built-in the driver will be too, if i2c is a module, the driver will be a module |
| 04:15.49 | benh | I'll probably add a config option for it :) |
| 04:16.02 | benh | let me know how it works. I didn't make it "official" yet because of lack of feedback |
| 04:16.19 | benh | and I want it to tell about the cpu temperature some way (via sysfs probably in 2.6) |
| 04:16.37 | comar | cool |
| 04:25.19 | sourdough | benh arcady is finishing up the fs stuff in prom-libc it looks like, so with luck we should have that booting demo programs soon |
| 04:25.40 | benh | ah good |
| 04:26.09 | sourdough | after that making a skeletal yaboot that boots kernels with no real ui is probably an afternoon |
| 04:26.20 | benh | yup |
| 04:26.27 | benh | we need to fix the elf loader btw ; |
| 04:26.32 | benh | it's dead broken in 1.x |
| 04:26.39 | sourdough | write a new one |
| 04:26.54 | sourdough | i want to do a generic kernel loading api though |
| 04:26.56 | benh | (though we can't really use a feature complete one as the linux ELF image is wrong :) |
| 04:27.22 | sourdough | so the UI just runs something like execk() and the lower levels figure out image type, or if its an OS chainloader and such |
| 04:27.56 | benh | hrm |
| 04:28.00 | benh | how do you deal with initrd ? |
| 04:28.12 | sourdough | i haven't fully thought it all out yet |
| 04:28.24 | sourdough | i just don't want a bunch of linux and powerpc specific crap sitting in UI code |
| 04:28.35 | sourdough | i want to support nativly booting bsd kernels and such |
| 04:28.53 | sourdough | and i don't want to reinvent all this logic in each ui |
| 04:29.28 | comar | defkeymap.c:476: warning: (near initialization for `ctrl_alt_map') |
| 04:29.28 | comar | make[4]: *** [defkeymap.o] Error 1 |
| 04:29.38 | comar | ouch |
| 04:29.39 | sourdough | yaboot2 will be split up similarly to prom-libc, generic stuff at the top, with lower level details in places like arch/powerpc or so |
| 04:30.55 | sourdough | benh most likly the upper layer kexec would just take a filename for kernel, filename for initrd, and some flags, the underpinnings would deal with details of initrd loading |
| 04:31.21 | sourdough | probably will end up needing to support a type flag similarly to grub |
| 04:31.25 | benh | comar: weird |
| 04:31.32 | sourdough | which has --type=frebsd openbsd linux etc |
| 04:31.44 | sourdough | hopefully autodetection will be possible in most cases |
| 04:32.05 | comar | benh: it's a new rsynced 2.4 tree |
| 04:32.22 | sourdough | benh yeah your current 2.4.23 tree won't compile in several regards it appears |
| 04:32.42 | sourdough | at least not with the .config i used for my nvram-restore image (which works fine on mainline, barfs in your tree) |
| 04:32.48 | benh | ah |
| 04:33.00 | sourdough | my problems were that your nvram driver refused to link properly |
| 04:33.15 | sourdough | looked like duplicate EXPORT_SYMBOLS or so, i didn't look that close |
| 04:33.28 | benh | I wonder if the rsync is fully up to date... |
| 04:33.31 | sourdough | i didn't need to make it work so didn't ;p |
| 04:33.32 | benh | I'll do a test here |
| 04:33.57 | sourdough | benh note i made a security related change to rsyncd which means you MUST ensure all files are world readable |
| 04:34.06 | sourdough | or when people checkout they will have files missing |
| 04:34.34 | sourdough | but i think rsync would print awarning if that occured |
| 04:37.36 | comar | The Makefile shows "-ben1" you spoke about a ben2 ? |
| 04:42.53 | sourdough | eb@ash ~$ find /var/local/rsync/linux-2.4 -exec access -r {} \; -o -exec echo {}: Not readable \; |
| 04:43.15 | sourdough | /var/local/rsync/linux-2.4/benh/arch/ppc/boot/images/zImage.pmac: Not readable |
| 04:43.24 | sourdough | /var/local/rsync/linux-2.4/benh-devel/arch/ppc/boot/images/zImage.pmac: Not readable |
| 04:43.33 | sourdough | looks like it just needs a make mrproper first.. |
| 04:44.20 | comar | another one with a brand new .config file : /usr/src/benh_kernel/include/linux/modules/ppc_ksyms.ver:198:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition |
| 04:44.20 | comar | make[3]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1 |
| 04:44.30 | {xmb} | sourdough, how long did that take to run |
| 04:44.47 | sourdough | {xmb} not very |
| 04:44.54 | {xmb} | so i guess a fast machine |
| 04:45.04 | {xmb} | since its hella inefficient, just to say :) |
| 04:45.14 | benh | comar: non, only 2.6.0 is at ben2 but there's no therm driver for windtunnel in there yet |
| 04:45.15 | sourdough | {xmb} not particularly efficient, but quick to issue |
| 04:45.25 | {xmb} | yeah |
| 04:45.29 | comar | benh: ok |
| 04:45.36 | {xmb} | want a similiar but more efficient thing? |
| 04:45.50 | sourdough | sure, i could come up with one on my own |
| 04:45.53 | benh | comar: you need to do a clean build |
| 04:46.04 | {xmb} | aight, lets see |
| 04:46.05 | benh | comar: backup your .config |
| 04:46.07 | sourdough | {xmb} whats yours? |
| 04:46.12 | benh | comar: do make mrproper or make distclean |
| 04:46.14 | {xmb} | i have to make it up first :) |
| 04:46.19 | sourdough | probably with -perm |
| 04:46.20 | benh | comar: restore .config, do make oldconfig |
| 04:46.22 | benh | etc.... |
| 04:46.28 | sourdough | that would have been much more straightforward.. |
| 04:46.47 | sourdough | find blah ! -perm +0004 -ls |
| 04:46.52 | sourdough | or -print or whatever |
| 04:46.57 | {xmb} | mmm yeah |
| 04:47.51 | sourdough | benh had this really obnoxious habit of rsyncing half world writabel trees to penguinppc |
| 04:47.58 | sourdough | which does have local users |
| 04:48.33 | sourdough | hmm those are dangling symlinks |
| 04:48.49 | benh | sourdough: well, I just bk -r get and rsync up usually :) |
| 04:49.17 | sourdough | benh is that affected by umask, or does bk archive permissions? |
| 04:51.31 | benh | sourdough: dunno |
| 04:51.53 | benh | sourdough: because my excude list is incomplete ? (they are not in bk, I export from the build tree) |
| 04:53.51 | comar | definitly there is a problem compiling this tree... |
| 04:54.18 | {xmb} | not too efficient, but mmm... couldnt get -perm to work anyway |
| 04:54.27 | {xmb} | IFS=$'\n'; for i in $(find . ! -perm 644); do [[ ! -r $i ]] && echo not readable: $i; done |
| 04:55.40 | comar | benh: I made a clean building and there is another error... defkeymap.c:476: warning: (near initialization for `ctrl_alt_map') |
| 04:55.40 | comar | make[4]: *** [defkeymap.o] Error 1 |
| 04:56.48 | comar | defkeymap.c:""everyline"": warning: excess elements in array initializer |
| 04:57.09 | comar | defkeymap.c:""thesameeveryline"": warning: (near initialization for `ctrl_alt_map') |
| 04:57.58 | benh | comar: remove defkeymap, it will be generated |
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| 05:06.11 | {xmb} | hows the comparision sourdough |
| 05:09.26 | sourdough | {xmb} find /etc ! -perm +0004 -ls |
| 05:09.38 | sourdough | {xmb} that finds anything lacking o=r but ignores all other perms |
| 05:09.45 | sourdough | its a fine GNU extension |
| 05:10.00 | {xmb} | i tried it here |
| 05:10.07 | {xmb} | and it works pretty... wrong |
| 05:10.19 | {xmb} | since the file can be user.user too |
| 05:10.34 | sourdough | i use that all the time too, though usually in find / -perm +0002 (find world write) +0020 (group write) and +4000 +2000 +6000 (suid, sgid, sxid) |
| 05:10.50 | sourdough | {xmb} eh? |
| 05:11.17 | {xmb} | by who was zimage.pmac owned |
| 05:12.27 | {xmb} | i misunderstood +perm earlier, but actually u'd have to loop or -exec your access thing to find out whenever u own those files or not |
| 05:17.34 | sourdough | {xmb} doesn't matter since im only testing against other, not uid or gid |
| 05:17.43 | {xmb} | ah |
| 05:18.07 | sourdough | there are two rsyncd users, one for writable access, the other for readonly access |
| 05:18.25 | sourdough | presumably any rsync exploit would likly need to authenticate to get the writable uid |
| 05:18.42 | sourdough | so this way a exploit against read-only gives no write access to the trees |
| 05:19.04 | {xmb} | ah, yeah |
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| 07:36.13 | micklweiss | hi |
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| 07:44.34 | mooh | not a debian question, i'm trying to choose ibook 600mhz (100mhz bus) memory upgrade. should I go with pc100 or pc133? and if someone upgraded recently, which brand? |
| 07:49.01 | micklweiss | also not a debian question - can anyone tell me why when i try to run the fink binary installer it says non-mountable filesystem? |
| 07:50.55 | micklweiss | ahh i see |
| 07:50.59 | micklweiss | oops :) |
| 07:52.11 | mooh | yes, it's the os version. |
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| 08:39.10 | gilligan_ | hi |
| 08:39.46 | gilligan_ | is anyone here using ALSA on a g4 powerbook ? |
| 08:41.15 | gilligan_ | or does anyone use xine ? i get audio output from xmms through OSS.. but xine audio doesnt work |
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| 10:04.37 | burntash | hi all |
| 10:08.00 | sourdough | hi |
| 10:08.34 | mooh | yelo |
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| 12:30.04 | Chain|604e | hi people |
| 12:30.08 | Chain|604e | anyone alive? |
| 12:32.43 | Sahneschnitter | no :-) |
| 12:32.56 | Chain|604e | so, this is a cemetery? ;P |
| 12:32.59 | Chain|604e | anyway |
| 12:33.28 | Chain|604e | i've constant pppd troubles, around my DSL connection |
| 12:34.25 | Chain|604e | after my ISP dropped the connection, i'm not able to reconnect until reboot |
| 12:34.56 | Chain|604e | well, in fact the reboot procedure complettes, i got new IP numbers and everything, just the connection doesn't work... no data in or out... |
| 12:36.29 | Chain|604e | i tried to reload every modules, stuff like that, don't work... log says: ioctl(PPPIOCSASYNCMAP): Inappropriate ioctl for device(25) |
| 12:37.00 | Chain|604e | and tcpflush failed: input/output error |
| 12:37.30 | Chain|604e | but only if my ISP disconnects me... no such messages when i'm terminating the connection myself with poff |
| 12:37.57 | Chain|604e | ideas? (searched through the web for solution, but no success) |
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| 13:10.31 | spacecowboy | smile |
| 13:10.32 | spacecowboy | :) |
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| 13:12.57 | spacecowboy | weird |
| 13:12.59 | spacecowboy | anyways |
| 13:13.16 | spacecowboy | is xfs support in benh 2.4.23 |
| 13:22.32 | Stereo | spacecowboy: don't think so. I have a patched .21 you can have though |
| 13:25.17 | bighawk | wow |
| 13:25.25 | bighawk | 2.4.23-benh finally released? |
| 13:25.44 | bighawk | or still -pre5? |
| 13:28.28 | Stereo | Chain|604e: that sounds strange. Have you tried creating a fresh ppp config with pppoeconf? |
| 13:33.18 | Chain|604e | Stereo: yes i tried... a few times... :) |
| 13:35.42 | Chain|604e | Stereo: maybe it's a ppc-only problem? since all ppp config files are the same like an x86 box at my workplace, cause the ISP is the same. (except password is different) all ppp settings are the same in the kernel, etc... |
| 13:35.58 | Chain|604e | endian bugs, and stuff like that |
| 13:37.33 | Stereo | ppp works fine here. It workd so well I have to update my dyndns manually because updating it when ppp connect doesn't happen often enough |
| 13:37.40 | Stereo | works, even |
| 13:37.58 | Stereo | this is a beige g3, nothing special |
| 13:38.07 | dude | bighawk: 2.4.23-ben1, but seems to come with a few bugs |
| 13:40.28 | Chain|604e | Stereo: then i'd ran out of ideas... :/ |
| 13:46.31 | bighawk | dude: so not recommended? :) |
| 13:46.58 | dude | bighawk: give it a try - it good the laptop patch included |
| 13:47.01 | bighawk | dude: the system reallyworks nice now with sound, i get better movie playback on linux now than with osx |
| 13:47.17 | dude | bighawk: :-) how 'bout dvd ? |
| 13:47.22 | bighawk | didnt try yet |
| 13:47.32 | bighawk | well, movie playback is equally fine on osx |
| 13:47.36 | bighawk | just it uses less cpu in linux |
| 13:48.13 | bighawk | i got to figure out if xfs merges with 2.4.23-ben1 |
| 13:49.02 | dude | why does everybody wants journaling ? my ibook doesn't crash. point. journaling eats battery power ... |
| 13:49.19 | bighawk | because i care about my files |
| 13:49.43 | bighawk | i'm willing to make a performance tradeoff for drastically improved reliability |
| 13:50.04 | dude | journaling just logs which files are open, so not every files has to be checked after a crash |
| 13:50.16 | bighawk | journalling makes all filesystem modifications atomic |
| 13:50.26 | bighawk | they are implemented as transactions |
| 13:50.40 | bighawk | so they are either fulfilled completely or not at all, so at most you loose the most recent updates |
| 13:51.10 | bighawk | your filesystem can technically not get corrupt anymore |
| 13:51.19 | bighawk | that's worth the tradeoff for me |
| 13:51.33 | Stereo | xfs is also Better than ext2-3 |
| 13:51.42 | Stereo | faster etc. |
| 13:51.44 | dude | better than ext2 ? |
| 13:51.49 | Stereo | aye |
| 13:51.59 | dude | that's it, I'm switching ;-) |
| 13:52.03 | Stereo | I think we had some benchmarks a while ago |
| 13:52.22 | Stereo | even if the thing has a journal, it's faster. I think. |
| 13:52.31 | Chain|604e | i'm using reiserfs, no problems... any advantages of xfs over reiser? |
| 13:52.48 | bighawk | faster performance with larger data files |
| 13:53.00 | bighawk | less cpu usage, and more space efficient too i believe |
| 13:53.28 | bighawk | reiserfs excells at lots of small files etc.. |
| 13:54.15 | bighawk | dude: journalling only comes with a speed tradeoff for writing |
| 13:54.20 | Stereo | I'll put my -xfs sources online when the cvs tree is unbroken. Right now it's cvs [server aborted]: could not find desired version 1.3 in /cvs/linux-2.4-xfs/linux/fs/xfs/quota/xfs_qm.h,v |
| 13:54.21 | bighawk | dude: reading goes at the same speed |
| 13:54.50 | Stereo | just tell me in a couple of days |
| 13:56.09 | bighawk | dude: what laptop patch in 2.4.23? |
| 13:56.16 | bighawk | dude: one which would make sleep work on the ibook g4? :) |
| 13:56.30 | dude | any recommendations for a live-cd (to copy root-part) ? |
| 13:57.00 | bighawk | hmm? |
| 13:57.19 | dude | bighawk: holds writes back and does them when a read is requestion, thus reducing hd access signifcantly increasing battery life (also significantly) |
| 13:57.31 | dude | s/requestion/requested/ |
| 13:58.18 | bighawk | cool |
| 13:58.23 | bighawk | and 2.6.0-ben1 doesnt have that? :) |
| 13:58.36 | dude | :-( no |
| 13:58.41 | bighawk | ok |
| 13:58.53 | bighawk | well, i wanted to switch back to 2.4.x anyway |
| 13:58.57 | dude | same issuse, different solution solution req with 2.6 |
| 13:58.58 | bighawk | when benh for 2.4.23 would be out |
| 13:59.04 | dude | is out |
| 13:59.13 | bighawk | dude: just curious, are there any special things i should know for the 2.4.23 kernel config? |
| 13:59.17 | bighawk | related to sound or something :) |
| 13:59.49 | dude | I assume it's still the same |
| 14:00.12 | bighawk | ok, and 2.4.x didnt come with alsa? as in, i have to apply some kernel patch for it? |
| 14:00.36 | dude | no patch; apt-get install alsa-source --> make-kpkg modules_image |
| 14:01.01 | dude | oh yeah, need to unpack tarball in /usr/src first |
| 14:01.11 | bighawk | ah, so it are just standalone modules? |
| 14:01.17 | dude | yep |
| 14:01.22 | bighawk | ok |
| 14:01.30 | bighawk | well, guess i might try it tonight |
| 14:01.35 | bighawk | got to do some programming work first now |
| 14:01.53 | dude | enjoy ;-) |
| 14:02.42 | bighawk | no worries, i will |
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| 14:22.09 | spacecowboy | hi |
| 14:22.48 | spacecowboy | hmm |
| 14:23.01 | simonrvn | hi |
| 14:23.09 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: i figured it all out |
| 14:23.15 | spacecowboy | now the only thing is... hfsplus write support |
| 14:23.15 | spacecowboy | :( |
| 14:23.22 | spacecowboy | with 2.6.0-ben1 |
| 14:23.31 | spacecowboy | +@kernel |
| 14:23.43 | spacecowboy | @+kernel |
| 14:23.49 | ravenbird | The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.0 |
| 14:23.49 | ravenbird | The latest 2.4 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.4.23 |
| 14:23.49 | ravenbird | The latest prepatch for the 2.4 Linux kernel tree is: 2.4.24-pre2 |
| 14:23.50 | ravenbird | The latest 2.2 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.2.25 |
| 14:23.50 | ravenbird | The latest 2.0 version of the Linux kernel is: 2.0.39 |
| 14:23.50 | ravenbird | The latest prepatch for the 2.0 Linux kernel tree is: 2.0.40-rc6 |
| 14:23.52 | ravenbird | The latest -mm patch to the stable Linux kernels is: 2.6.0-mm1 |
| 14:24.44 | spacecowboy | simonrvn any ideas? |
| 14:25.02 | spacecowboy | simonrvn just how i can have write support for hfsplus with 2.6.0-ben1 |
| 14:25.40 | simonrvn | try with -ben2 |
| 14:25.57 | simonrvn | rsync |
| 14:26.29 | simonrvn | it's fixed in -ben2 |
| 14:28.07 | spacecowboy | really! |
| 14:28.08 | spacecowboy | nice |
| 14:28.10 | spacecowboy | your the man |
| 14:28.18 | simonrvn | heh |
| 14:28.29 | simonrvn | g'morning btw |
| 14:29.03 | spacecowboy | you too :) |
| 14:29.16 | spacecowboy | simonrvn should i make the module or build it in? |
| 14:29.30 | simonrvn | module definitely |
| 14:29.37 | spacecowboy | ok |
| 14:30.14 | spacecowboy | out of curiosity why? |
| 14:31.14 | simonrvn | practical reasons mostly. you don't always need it running all the time |
| 14:31.18 | spacecowboy | rsync --delete -avz source.mvista.com::linuxppc-2.5-benh <dir> <------------ that should work right |
| 14:32.51 | spacecowboy | wahoo ;p |
| 14:32.58 | spacecowboy | good guess ;p |
| 14:33.23 | spacecowboy | is there an xfs merged anywhere simonrvn |
| 14:33.32 | spacecowboy | namely in 2.4 |
| 14:33.34 | spacecowboy | i know its it 2.6 |
| 14:33.36 | simonrvn | yes. long time ago |
| 14:33.49 | simonrvn | oh, 2.4? in 2.4.24pre* |
| 14:33.50 | spacecowboy | in 2.4.23-pre5-ben0? |
| 14:34.04 | simonrvn | dunno |
| 14:34.26 | spacecowboy | should i just stick with 2.6.0 |
| 14:34.30 | spacecowboy | actually |
| 14:34.32 | spacecowboy | nevermind |
| 14:34.35 | spacecowboy | i'm going to decide ; |
| 14:34.38 | spacecowboy | p |
| 14:37.29 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 14:37.38 | spacecowboy | i just did a make clean on a brand new source tree |
| 14:37.40 | spacecowboy | hahahahahahaha |
| 14:37.42 | spacecowboy | i'm so dumb |
| 14:38.56 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: you still here |
| 14:39.13 | TheBonsai | lol |
| 14:39.16 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: another thing... have you tried to use headphone with 2.6.0-ben1 or ben2 i'll see in a second |
| 14:39.20 | spacecowboy | TheBonsai: :D |
| 14:39.21 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 14:39.41 | spacecowboy | TheBonsai never seen you around here before :) whatsup |
| 14:40.20 | simonrvn | yeh, i have my speakers hooked up to the headphone jack. works ok |
| 14:40.20 | TheBonsai | spacecowboy: just came in here cause i needed some ppc-[ports,os-]knowledge |
| 14:40.49 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: yea it works well... except when you change the volume via the keys from pbbuttonsd ... it switches off softmute |
| 14:40.50 | spacecowboy | its weird |
| 14:41.00 | spacecowboy | TheBonsai: start soaking ;p |
| 14:41.10 | spacecowboy | i love this computer |
| 14:41.17 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: i'm almost done building ben2 ;p |
| 14:41.19 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 14:41.36 | spacecowboy | you should see the g5 i have running at school |
| 14:41.56 | spacecowboy | support is coming.. very slowly though |
| 14:42.14 | TheBonsai | spacecowboy: well, the platform i wanted is not supported unter linux. there is a port for a simelar platform, but it lags (bootloader checkt a unknown signature in kernel), so i decided to wait for the netbsd port to this machine |
| 14:42.42 | spacecowboy | what machine? |
| 14:42.49 | spacecowboy | what platform |
| 14:43.41 | TheBonsai | spacecowboy: this here is a normal i?86 ;) |
| 14:43.57 | TheBonsai | spacecowboy: an IBM ppc403GCX OAK styled board |
| 14:44.06 | spacecowboy | cool |
| 14:44.24 | TheBonsai | no, it's not |
| 14:44.24 | TheBonsai | ;) |
| 14:44.33 | TheBonsai | it's making me crazy heh |
| 14:44.45 | spacecowboy | what is |
| 14:44.51 | spacecowboy | the fact you can't run linux on it |
| 14:45.06 | spacecowboy | dude.. you can run netbsd on a toaster |
| 14:45.15 | TheBonsai | linux source tree lags oak support (after hours of editing the source to reduce compiler errors it tells me that oak.c is missing...) |
| 14:45.22 | spacecowboy | youc an't tell me you cant run it on a ppc403GCX |
| 14:45.33 | spacecowboy | icky |
| 14:45.35 | spacecowboy | :( |
| 14:45.48 | spacecowboy | netbsd then? |
| 14:46.26 | TheBonsai | on the processor yes, but this board is - well, IBM did a good microsoft job. it won't boot normal kernels. you need a non-christian jump-in-address, some signature, etc.etc.etc. |
| 14:46.51 | TheBonsai | netbsd port will come "soon" (is "soon" > 1yr or < 1yr??) |
| 14:48.44 | spacecowboy | less than :) |
| 14:48.52 | TheBonsai | heh |
| 14:48.52 | spacecowboy | probably 4-6 months i bet |
| 14:49.03 | spacecowboy | but then again |
| 14:49.04 | spacecowboy | i don't know |
| 14:49.09 | spacecowboy | i have no experience with oldworld |
| 14:49.11 | spacecowboy | i'm only 15 |
| 14:49.15 | spacecowboy | so i haven't been around long enough ;p |
| 14:49.18 | TheBonsai | well then, in the meantime i boot the original IBM kernel (uaaaaaak) |
| 14:49.27 | spacecowboy | icky |
| 14:49.46 | TheBonsai | this thing is not 'old' |
| 14:49.48 | TheBonsai | :) |
| 14:49.53 | spacecowboy | i know |
| 14:49.55 | spacecowboy | i'm just saying |
| 14:49.57 | TheBonsai | the good old CBM machines are 'old' |
| 14:50.04 | spacecowboy | yea |
| 14:50.18 | TheBonsai | or my good olivetti 8086 :) with NECV20 processor tuned |
| 14:50.19 | TheBonsai | :) |
| 14:50.30 | TheBonsai | these things are nearly as old as i am |
| 14:52.57 | spacecowboy | wow |
| 14:54.30 | spacecowboy | ahahahah built :) |
| 14:55.06 | spacecowboy | wahoooooooo |
| 14:55.09 | spacecowboy | ok now to reboot ;) |
| 14:55.10 | spacecowboy | brb |
| 14:55.48 | TheBonsai | ay0 |
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| 14:58.08 | spacecowboy | wheeeeeee |
| 14:58.09 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 15:00.23 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: it didn't fix anything........ |
| 15:00.25 | spacecowboy | ben2 |
| 15:00.27 | spacecowboy | rar |
| 15:04.09 | simonrvn | you trying to get r/w on hfs+? |
| 15:06.29 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: yes |
| 15:06.40 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: for this ipod... |
| 15:06.45 | spacecowboy | all the read works |
| 15:06.49 | spacecowboy | i just cant change anything |
| 15:07.05 | dude | where are the xfs-enabled bootdisks/cds again ? |
| 15:07.36 | simonrvn | so do what i said yesterday, and make a backup of your stuff on the ipod, make another fs on it, then move the stuff back |
| 15:07.41 | simonrvn | topic |
| 15:08.22 | dude | simonrvn: thx |
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| 15:26.06 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: yea i could do that.. only thing is i have to enable that support in the kernel as well :( |
| 15:26.17 | spacecowboy | actually |
| 15:26.20 | spacecowboy | screw this for a while |
| 15:26.22 | spacecowboy | i'm lazy |
| 15:27.20 | shaka | anyone familiar with ims twin turbo 4M? can't get it to work @832x624- only 640x480 |
| 15:27.44 | simonrvn | not moi, sorry |
| 15:29.07 | shaka | thing is it worked under ydl but using bootx w/ no video mode parameter |
| 15:29.57 | shaka | man quik says nothing of passing parameters on boot- is it possible? |
| 15:30.36 | simonrvn | yes. append= |
| 15:31.02 | shaka | hmmm- wonder why i didn't at least try that :) |
| 15:31.36 | simonrvn | e.g. append="video=foo:bar" |
| 15:32.47 | simonrvn | you need quik on oldworld if you spend most (95%+) of your time in linux ;) |
| 15:33.21 | shaka | yep :) don't know much about macos- it's too complicated for a simpleton like me :) |
| 15:33.45 | shaka | took 3 months to install macos 9.1 |
| 15:33.50 | simonrvn | macos hard? first time i've heard that |
| 15:33.54 | simonrvn | oh my |
| 15:34.02 | simonrvn | @comfort shaka |
| 15:34.04 | ravenbird | There, there, shaka. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 15:34.26 | shaka | simonrvn there's no cli and I really felt lost |
| 15:34.51 | simonrvn | yes. too true. it's *all* pointy clicky.. |
| 15:35.08 | simonrvn | yay CLI :) |
| 15:36.11 | shaka | actually tho this box is my first & only ppc & was a basket case + i used non-mac scsi drives |
| 15:36.13 | shaka | took a while to get the partitions & drivers on the discs |
| 15:37.06 | shaka | well i'm off to try and get the res right- thanks |
| 15:37.06 | simonrvn | if it's a linux-only drive, you don't need the macos drivers. but if you're going to boot macos at all on it, then you do (as you discovered) |
| 15:37.06 | simonrvn | ok |
| 15:37.14 | simonrvn | good luck |
| 15:37.20 | shaka | simonrvn well the debian installer wouldn't let me delete the mac parts |
| 15:37.25 | shaka | safety feature i guess |
| 15:37.36 | shaka | not the drivers parts anyway |
| 15:37.41 | simonrvn | no, it won't. neither will the one in sid - i think so too |
| 15:38.00 | shaka | dd if=/dev/zero will tho :) |
| 15:38.08 | shaka | ok bbl |
| 15:38.22 | simonrvn | you can re-init the drive itself (i in mac-fdisk) but then you lose the mac os driver partitions |
| 15:38.31 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 15:58.00 | can | im going to get a mac notebook but i do not know which book (powerbook or ibook) should i go for? |
| 15:58.09 | can | anyone can suggest? |
| 15:58.28 | simonrvn | one that suits your needs, and your price range |
| 15:58.31 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 15:59.06 | simonrvn | hello JB |
| 15:59.19 | simonrvn | hello B_E |
| 15:59.28 | can | ermm.. i dont have any knowledge on mac... just want to do a dual boot on it with debian. |
| 15:59.46 | can | of cos, looks is important.. 12" white color will do |
| 15:59.57 | simonrvn | that's an ibook IIRC |
| 16:00.36 | simonrvn | go to www.apple.com, and click around on the ibook links ;) |
| 16:01.21 | can | im reading it now.. :) |
| 16:02.09 | simonrvn | cool |
| 16:03.01 | can | both book got an apple logo in the cover? |
| 16:03.17 | can | i only saw it on ibook, dont know about powerbook |
| 16:03.20 | simonrvn | don't know .probably |
| 16:04.13 | can | I'm only just a end-user, which book should i go for? |
| 16:04.26 | simonrvn | (15:58:28) < simonrvn> one that suits your needs, and your price range |
| 16:07.00 | can | ok. |
| 16:07.19 | can | simonrvn: are you using one of the book? |
| 16:07.24 | simonrvn | no |
| 16:07.49 | can | k |
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| 16:17.14 | spacecowboy | hmmm |
| 16:19.11 | spacecowboy | hmm |
| 16:19.13 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 16:21.08 | spacecowboy | can: ive had one of each :) |
| 16:23.40 | spacecowboy | damn... i wnat one of these to work under linux :p |
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| 17:32.29 | alles32 | hi alll. is possible to connect to imac from debian router? on computer where router is, is netatalk server to. sharinh on the imac is on. |
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| 17:46.23 | eim | Hello folks, is anyone running kernel 2.6 on an iBook yet? |
| 17:50.05 | alles32 | no |
| 17:53.45 | eim | I've just found an interesting iBook + kernel 2.6 HOWTO over here: http://www.daniel-zimmermann.com/joe/ibook/ibook-2.6.html |
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| 18:00.19 | simonrvn | alles32: yes |
| 18:00.23 | simonrvn | eim: some are. |
| 18:00.31 | simonrvn | 2.6.0-ben1 |
| 18:00.39 | simonrvn | on an oldworld box |
| 18:03.26 | eim | simonrvn: Perfect, thanks. |
| 18:03.38 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 18:04.12 | alles32 | simon > bad quiestion :).. how is possible to connect to imac from debian? (i am conectet to debian via ssh) |
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| 18:05.40 | eim | simonrvn: From where have you downloaded the 2.6.0-ben1 kernel? I found actually only the 2.5 ppc development tree. Thanks. |
| 18:06.01 | sebasggx | Hi! I would really apreciate it if someone could help me with the following: |
| 18:06.07 | sebasggx | i've installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.01 r on my PPC performa 6400/180. After |
| 18:06.07 | sebasggx | the installation is complete, the installer resets my computer, but |
| 18:06.07 | sebasggx | unfortunetaly it doesn\'t boot, all i see is a blank screen and my keyboard |
| 18:06.07 | sebasggx | doesn't work. The boot loader is quik... |
| 18:06.53 | simonrvn | eim: rsync says 2.5, but it'S 2.6 |
| 18:07.30 | simonrvn | sebasggx: describe what happens when "it doesn't boot" |
| 18:08.00 | eim | simonrvn: ok, thank you. |
| 18:09.33 | simonrvn | np |
| 18:09.56 | sebasggx | simonrvn: all i see is a blank screen, my keyboard doesn't work, and nothing else. The computer stays that way. |
| 18:12.54 | eim | simonrvn: I'm rsyncing the 2.5 tree from source.mvista.com::linuxppc-2.5-benh, hope this is fine. |
| 18:13.11 | simonrvn | do you have a means of getting to open firmware? like you have the boot floppies, right? |
| 18:13.18 | simonrvn | eim: np |
| 18:13.31 | simonrvn | eim: it's 2.6.0-ben2 |
| 18:15.44 | sebasggx | simonrvn: i have 2 floppy disks. After insertting the first one, i am asked for the second one called "ROOT". after this, the installation process begins. Do you mean these disks? |
| 18:16.06 | eim | simonrvn: Fine, thanks once again. |
| 18:17.08 | simonrvn | sebasggx: yes |
| 18:17.42 | sebasggx | simonrvn: yes, i do have them. |
| 18:18.13 | simonrvn | sebasggx: ok, you'll need to boot to those. then mount your root (/) partition. then go to VT2 (option-F2) |
| 18:19.05 | simonrvn | then, you'll need to chrrot to the install: chroot /target /bin/bash -l |
| 18:19.10 | simonrvn | chroot* |
| 18:19.28 | simonrvn | then do mount -a |
| 18:20.05 | simonrvn | (might need to mount the procfs first; do mount -t proc proc /proc if need be) |
| 18:20.52 | simonrvn | then do nvsetenv and tell me what you have for boot-device, input-device and output-device |
| 18:21.25 | simonrvn | . o O ( I should write this up into a howto... ) |
| 18:22.23 | sebasggx | simonrvn: ok. thanks a lot. i'm going to try it out. Just one question: i have to reset the PRAM in order to boot the 2 floppy disks, is that ok? |
| 18:22.38 | simonrvn | no you don't |
| 18:22.47 | simonrvn | don't need to i mean |
| 18:23.15 | simonrvn | the machine will see them as bootable, and deal with them accordingly |
| 18:23.28 | simonrvn | the boot-hfs-floppy.img floppy that is |
| 18:23.39 | sebasggx | ok |
| 18:24.15 | sebasggx | thanks :). in 10 minutes i'm back. |
| 18:24.33 | simonrvn | oh, you're on the machine that needs help? |
| 18:24.45 | sebasggx | no |
| 18:24.47 | simonrvn | ok |
| 18:24.53 | sebasggx | it's in other room |
| 18:25.31 | simonrvn | *nod* |
| 18:25.47 | alles32 | simon > bad quiestion :).. how is possible to connect to imac from debian? (i am conectet to debian via ssh) |
| 18:29.16 | simonrvn | with netatalk, or other means? |
| 18:31.01 | alles32 | netatalk is instaled on debian jet. don know no way to conect from debian to shared disk on imac. reverse way is ok(from imac to debian server with netatalk |
| 18:32.11 | simonrvn | tkchooser is a horrible appletalk client... i don not recommend it. |
| 18:32.12 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 18:33.01 | Bor_Ed | does mockosx have nfs server ? |
| 18:33.19 | alles32 | and somethinh another? |
| 18:33.27 | simonrvn | afaik, there's no other way to do it with the other way |
| 18:33.33 | simonrvn | yeh osx has nfs |
| 18:33.43 | Bor_Ed | wouldn't that be better choice ? |
| 18:34.05 | alles32 | unfortunately imac is with os9 :( |
| 18:34.13 | Bor_Ed | ahh |
| 18:34.33 | simonrvn | shared volumes the only other ways i can think of to do it from mac os classic is samba (maybe; i don't know if there's a classic samba client) |
| 18:35.16 | simonrvn | and the netatlka from sid is non-functional with classic.. |
| 18:35.37 | simonrvn | (i'm going to try to re-enable the functionality) |
| 18:35.54 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: no hfs with classic |
| 18:35.57 | simonrvn | nfs* |
| 18:36.03 | Bor_Ed | ok |
| 18:36.15 | simonrvn | (i looked ;) |
| 18:36.26 | Bor_Ed | I'd need to enable sharing here on sid to dang 475 and IIci :I |
| 18:36.49 | simonrvn | it's stupid, all this focus on samba stuff, and basically leaving classic clients out of the loop... |
| 18:36.52 | Bor_Ed | maybe I'll just swap HDs and use basiliskII on this box to install the crap |
| 18:37.16 | simonrvn | and you can enable multi-user in os 9 |
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| 18:38.24 | sebasggx | simonrvn: sorry, i can't boot from the 2 floppy discs... still the same: blank screen and keyboard off. |
| 18:38.24 | simonrvn | i have some shares just waiting to be shared up to the LAN, and sid's netatalk is buggered. pisses me off |
| 18:38.43 | simonrvn | sebasggx: sec |
| 18:38.55 | Bor_Ed | well I need some guru stuff here, the buggrs run os 7.5 and 7.1 :P |
| 18:39.59 | simonrvn | sebasggx: ah there are issues with the internal video and OF (open firmware) |
| 18:40.13 | simonrvn | sebasggx: can you get some video card for it perhaps? |
| 18:40.17 | simonrvn | pci |
| 18:41.27 | sebasggx | simonrvn: ohh... nop. right now i only have a AGP card.. i can get a pci, but not right now.... |
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| 18:41.28 | simonrvn | Bor_Ed: i'll see what i can do WRT sid's netatalk |
| 18:42.00 | Bor_Ed | simonrvn: no rush from here, I'll just hook up the buggr HDs in and use emu to install junk :) |
| 18:42.06 | simonrvn | sebasggx: ok, look into getting a vid card for it, since that issue is fux0ring up you getting into linux, and seeing stuff |
| 18:42.33 | simonrvn | sebasggx: http://simonraven.nuit.ca/macppc/models.shtml#6400 |
| 18:43.08 | simonrvn | in the case of your machine, the netbsd references apply ;) |
| 18:44.05 | sebasggx | simonnvr: thanks a lot, again, when i get the pci card, i'll contact you again. |
| 18:44.35 | simonrvn | cool |
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| 18:46.21 | alles32 | lol tkchooser is onlz for xwin. and i am runing without it. is some equivalent for command line? |
| 18:48.44 | simonrvn | sec |
| 18:50.32 | simonrvn | AFAIK, no |
| 18:50.50 | alles32 | ach jo :( |
| 18:52.42 | simonrvn | i know, it sucks :( |
| 18:52.52 | alles32 | i canot setup my xserver. i have g4 with nvidia gforce4 and 22" monitor. i am using xf86config. selected right videoadapter and right frequences of my monitor. but if a try run xserver, si monitor is shut down... |
| 18:53.56 | alles32 | it is not so important for me (run xserver) but somentime is useful, like conect to imac :) |
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| 18:58.53 | eim | Does the iBook's G3 CPU (750FX) support Altivec instructions? |
| 18:59.06 | Bor_Ed | nope |
| 18:59.07 | simonrvn | alles32: yeh. :). you might try the Xautoconfig at penguinppc.org. it works very well. you might need the DRI stuff too |
| 18:59.12 | simonrvn | no |
| 18:59.19 | simonrvn | only 7XXX do |
| 18:59.52 | eim | Bor_Ed: Thanks. |
| 18:59.55 | eim | simonrvn: Thanks, too. |
| 19:09.32 | alles32 | thanx simonrnv. DRI stuff is some package? |
| 19:10.09 | simonrvn | enables stuff like agp and the like. |
| 19:10.24 | simonrvn | look for it at sourceforge.net |
| 19:11.15 | alles32 | thanx |
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| 19:18.20 | alles32 | witch version of xautoconfig is best? the last one? |
| 19:23.51 | simonrvn | yeh |
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| 19:34.47 | alles32 | have downloaded. but there is no readme file, or some info how ccan i install or use it |
| 19:37.19 | simonrvn | you need the pci dev stuff (apt-cache search pci dev) and i think libc6-dev installed |
| 19:43.12 | alles32 | libc6-dev i got. but witch concreetly pci dev i need? |
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| 19:59.40 | simonrvn | do the search. you need pci.h |
| 20:00.14 | simonrvn | @find pci.h |
| 20:01.02 | simonrvn | pciutils-dev |
| 20:01.26 | simonrvn | it isn't that hard to figure out if you use your head :) |
| 20:02.08 | simonrvn | @+find include/pci.h |
| 20:02.11 | ravenbird | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:02.16 | alles32 | :) |
| 20:02.49 | dude_ | head ? |
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| 20:03.28 | ravenbird | failed. |
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| 20:03.36 | simonrvn | @lart ravenbird |
| 20:03.36 | alles32 | yes i found it /usr/include/ and there is 6 times in differents folder 1. asm-genecric, asm, linux and sys |
| 20:03.54 | simonrvn | alles32: it's in pciutils-dev |
| 20:03.59 | treke | ah sweet. a debian ppc channel |
| 20:06.30 | alles32 | i got it simontvn |
| 20:08.37 | simonrvn | cool |
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| 20:13.34 | alles32 | so and nopw how can i run xautoconf when i have needles packages? |
| 20:15.51 | simonrvn | you compile it first. |
| 20:16.03 | simonrvn | try with: |
| 20:16.42 | simonrvn | gcc -fPIC -DPIC -o Xautoconfig.c Xautoconfig |
| 20:16.48 | simonrvn | is that right? shit... |
| 20:17.47 | dude_ | put the .c at the end |
| 20:18.03 | dude_ | gcc -fPIC -DPIC -o Xautoconfig Xautoconfig.c |
| 20:18.06 | simonrvn | i always get confused ;) |
| 20:18.38 | dude_ | so there are times you're _not_ confused ? lucky bastard ;-) |
| 20:18.56 | simonrvn | hhehehe |
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| 20:21.40 | alles32 | there is file Makefile. it i run from mc and mc show me a win "enter parameters". i enter it without any parameter, and afer compiling i get binary file Xautoconfig. is important to select any parameter before compiling? |
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| 20:21.42 | linuxmandrake | Can anyone help me install linux-m68k? |
| 20:22.31 | alles32 | fPIC and DPIC are the parameters? |
| 20:23.16 | jholt | helpme, why not try #linux or Linpeople |
| 20:23.47 | helpme42842 | thanks |
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| 20:23.55 | jholt | its alittle pointless to ask about m68k-linux in a ppc room |
| 20:26.06 | alles32 | ok. i generated some file. i try to start xserver. |
| 20:26.24 | alles32 | simonrvn>ok. i generated some config file. i try to start xserver. |
| 20:26.46 | simonrvn | you might to tweak it a little, but it should have most of the proper settings |
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| 20:28.48 | alles32 | so unfortunately. |
| 20:29.35 | alles32 | simonrvn > xserver did not start. plz could you send me info how nac i compile xautoconf? i forogot write it :(( |
| 20:29.53 | simonrvn | (20:18:03) < ?dude_> gcc -fPIC -DPIC -o Xautoconfig Xautoconfig.c |
| 20:30.00 | simonrvn | scroll up next time |
| 20:31.59 | alles32 | i canot scroll, cause when i try start up xserver, i canot conect to another console and must restart. and bitchx have no history |
| 20:33.38 | alles32 | thanx. see u later. must go out |
| 20:35.43 | LarstiQ | alles32: use screen |
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| 20:41.06 | spacecowboy | wheeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:41.31 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 20:41.35 | spacecowboy | in os x |
| 20:41.36 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 20:41.41 | spacecowboy | itunes baby yea |
| 20:41.46 | spacecowboy | they should make an itunes for linux |
| 20:41.48 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 20:41.57 | treke | whee, debian is actually installing after much gnashing of teeth :) |
| 20:41.57 | dude_ | native or moll ? |
| 20:42.00 | Bor_Ed | dvd-jon already did :P |
| 20:42.14 | spacecowboy | dude_: native |
| 20:42.43 | dude_ | spacecowboy: dual-booting sucks |
| 20:42.54 | jholt | spacecowboy, rhythmbox is showing progress as a free alternative to itunes |
| 20:43.06 | spacecowboy | jholt: i know about it :) |
| 20:43.10 | spacecowboy | but i'm saying |
| 20:43.12 | spacecowboy | a real itunes |
| 20:43.18 | spacecowboy | that runs everything that itunes does |
| 20:43.20 | spacecowboy | ipods etc etc |
| 20:43.31 | spacecowboy | dude_: it does |
| 20:43.33 | spacecowboy | i'm being lazy right now |
| 20:43.35 | spacecowboy | lol :) |
| 20:44.02 | jholt | spacecowboy, somehow i don't think apple will do that |
| 20:44.02 | spacecowboy | i have it in a piggy back holder on fw... (a drive) which splits to hook up the ipod |
| 20:44.15 | spacecowboy | so i'm just running off the piggy back drive externally with the linux hd inside |
| 20:44.18 | spacecowboy | ;p |
| 20:44.28 | spacecowboy | jholt: i never said they would ;p i agree with you |
| 20:44.53 | jholt | spacecowboy, its a nice dream though isn't it |
| 20:45.07 | spacecowboy | yes sirreee |
| 20:45.12 | spacecowboy | mol sucks too |
| 20:45.16 | jholt | I wouln't mind a quicktime linux |
| 20:45.18 | spacecowboy | because its hard to get the packages |
| 20:45.32 | spacecowboy | jholt: we cn do without that |
| 20:45.34 | spacecowboy | i'm a music kid ;p |
| 20:45.44 | spacecowboy | but see its just annoying w/o itunes |
| 20:45.50 | jholt | oh mol won't even boot on my system |
| 20:45.51 | spacecowboy | and os x sucks |
| 20:45.59 | LarstiQ | Mol works nicely here tho |
| 20:46.17 | spacecowboy | well not with a 2.6.0-ben2 kernel it won't lol |
| 20:46.31 | jholt | apparently mol doesn't build against 25-2.6 |
| 20:46.37 | jholt | *2.5-2.6 |
| 20:46.42 | simonrvn | spacecowboy: yes it will. i booted MOL here yesterday |
| 20:46.42 | spacecowboy | i got it :) |
| 20:46.47 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: really? |
| 20:46.50 | simonrvn | yes |
| 20:46.53 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: where did you get the packages |
| 20:46.59 | simonrvn | debian's |
| 20:47.10 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: ??? apt-get install (what stuff) |
| 20:47.12 | spacecowboy | jus tmol |
| 20:47.17 | spacecowboy | just mol * rather |
| 20:47.23 | simonrvn | ran make-kpkg modules-image |
| 20:47.36 | LarstiQ | spacecowboy: it does! it does! :) |
| 20:47.37 | jholt | I can't get mol to build always a error trying to build the usb.c |
| 20:47.45 | simonrvn | there's no network however |
| 20:47.46 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: for.. |
| 20:47.51 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: not a problem |
| 20:47.53 | LarstiQ | network works for me also |
| 20:47.58 | spacecowboy | LarstiQ: 2.6? |
| 20:48.00 | spacecowboy | wtf |
| 20:48.02 | simonrvn | oh ok. just need to reconfig then |
| 20:48.04 | spacecowboy | maybe its my lazy ness |
| 20:48.09 | LarstiQ | spacecowboy: yup |
| 20:48.13 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: what modules did you rebuild |
| 20:48.30 | simonrvn | i ran fakeroot make-kpkg modules-image |
| 20:48.42 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: but where... in what dir |
| 20:48.51 | simonrvn | left the mol sub-dir as the only dir, and that's it. built a .deb from that |
| 20:48.52 | spacecowboy | does it install the modules to /usr/src/linux |
| 20:48.57 | simonrvn | /usr/src/modules |
| 20:49.02 | spacecowboy | right |
| 20:49.03 | spacecowboy | ;) |
| 20:49.07 | spacecowboy | thats what i ment |
| 20:49.09 | spacecowboy | meant |
| 20:49.13 | spacecowboy | too many cookies |
| 20:49.18 | spacecowboy | finger spazms |
| 20:49.18 | simonrvn | but you need to do that in your kernel tree, not the /usr/src/modules |
| 20:49.21 | spacecowboy | yea |
| 20:49.23 | spacecowboy | i know :) |
| 20:49.34 | simonrvn | you know, so why don't you then? :) |
| 20:49.55 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: after all this work... i get this dvd-rw to work perfectly |
| 20:50.01 | treke | if whoever built the xfs boot images is here, thanks a ton. They are the first to work on my powerbook :) |
| 20:50.07 | spacecowboy | and now... the tray ended up being broken |
| 20:50.08 | simonrvn | good for you. now you have something else to do ;) |
| 20:50.16 | spacecowboy | treke: thank EB |
| 20:50.16 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 20:50.19 | spacecowboy | sourdough |
| 20:50.20 | spacecowboy | hes not here |
| 20:50.35 | LarstiQ | treke: new powerbook? |
| 20:50.37 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: no the trey is broken .... so th egears are messed etc etc |
| 20:50.43 | simonrvn | oh :9 |
| 20:50.49 | simonrvn | s/trey/tray/ |
| 20:50.49 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 20:50.53 | spacecowboy | yea |
| 20:50.54 | spacecowboy | whatever |
| 20:50.55 | simonrvn | woops |
| 20:50.58 | spacecowboy | i'm a math kid |
| 20:50.59 | simonrvn | ( not 9 |
| 20:51.06 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 20:51.22 | simonrvn | an i'm a typod genuis |
| 20:51.45 | spacecowboy | agereed |
| 20:51.56 | simonrvn | so are yuo ti semss |
| 20:52.09 | spacecowboy | is LarstiQ even a kid ;p |
| 20:52.35 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: twood semes |
| 20:52.49 | LarstiQ | spacecowboy: why not? :) |
| 20:53.03 | spacecowboy | no i'm saying i really am a kid |
| 20:53.04 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 20:53.21 | LarstiQ | depends on how you define kid |
| 20:53.30 | simonrvn | baby goat |
| 20:53.35 | spacecowboy | bleet bleet |
| 20:53.38 | simonrvn | 'ba-dum-tssh' |
| 20:53.55 | TheBonsai | lol |
| 20:53.57 | LarstiQ | faster harder scooter! |
| 20:54.01 | spacecowboy | ba-dom-bom-tsst |
| 20:54.26 | robbers | OY! |
| 20:54.31 | robbers | PUT THE MONEY IN THE BAG |
| 20:55.05 | LarstiQ | This is a holdup! |
| 20:55.11 | dude_ | there's no bag, silly |
| 20:55.17 | dude_ | ;-) |
| 20:55.52 | robbers | /me cap dude_ and steal his money and put it in the invisible bag |
| 20:55.55 | Jeedo | is there a yellowdog irc chan? |
| 20:56.05 | robbers | oops |
| 20:56.13 | jholt | Jeedo, #yelowdog possibly ? |
| 20:56.14 | robbers | Jeedo: i would try #yellowdog |
| 20:56.17 | robbers | ahhahahahahahahahaha |
| 20:56.21 | robbers | just a guess |
| 20:56.30 | Jeedo | robbers: hmm, yeah found it already, that was a stupid question |
| 20:56.35 | robbers | nah |
| 20:56.36 | robbers | ;p |
| 20:56.42 | robbers | you should hear some of mine :) |
| 20:57.06 | spacecowboy | /me was tired of that game |
| 20:57.13 | spacecowboy | wtf is up with that |
| 20:58.23 | simonrvn | i hate it when i have to turn on more verbose logging in my ldap server.. |
| 20:59.13 | spacecowboy | hmm |
| 21:04.48 | treke | are there any working xfree86 4.4-rc packages for ppc? |
| 21:04.58 | spacecowboy | not in sid |
| 21:05.06 | treke | external is fine |
| 21:05.14 | treke | I know sid is still at 4.2.something |
| 21:05.42 | spacecowboy | you should be able to use 4.3.99-14 |
| 21:05.54 | spacecowboy | its what i used |
| 21:07.03 | simonrvn | where did you get 4.3.99 ? |
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| 21:11.12 | spacecowboy | back when i built for my tibook |
| 21:11.14 | spacecowboy | :) |
| 21:12.10 | spacecowboy | either way its back to linux time :) |
| 21:12.11 | spacecowboy | brb |
| 21:12.30 | treke | oh well. I need a challenge :) |
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| 21:16.44 | dude_ | simonrvn: the dri.freedesktop-archiv in /topic |
| 21:17.24 | jholt | treke, whats wrong with the kernel.org tar.bz2? |
| 21:17.53 | treke | jholt: Wanted to get the benh stuff, my machine is pretty recent |
| 21:20.16 | treke | and I figured that ppc was probably like arm and the kernel.org kernel wouldnt too useful :) |
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| 21:23.12 | spacecowboy | i am back :) |
| 21:23.17 | myXtie | I have used and use kernel.org kernels ...hey spacecowboy.. later folks |
| 21:23.21 | spacecowboy | lol |
| 21:23.29 | spacecowboy | later rod |
| 21:23.41 | myXtie | cheers :) |
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| 21:23.43 | spacecowboy | ;) |
| 21:23.47 | spacecowboy | i guess no |
| 21:23.48 | spacecowboy | ;p |
| 21:23.59 | spacecowboy | simonrvn so many new beats :) |
| 21:25.31 | spacecowboy | simonrvn: care to tell me now how you did mol with 2.6 :) |
| 21:25.54 | spacecowboy | i just did a apt-get install mol |
| 21:26.01 | spacecowboy | so i have those three pacakgez ;p |
| 21:29.14 | simonrvn | i did. scroll up. mol-modules-source. and rtfm |
| 21:30.22 | spacecowboy | oops :( |
| 21:30.23 | spacecowboy | sorry |
| 21:32.52 | spacecowboy | can i just get rid of that stupid mol-modules-2.2.19? |
| 21:37.27 | spacecowboy | yep |
| 21:37.28 | spacecowboy | ok |
| 21:37.29 | spacecowboy | peace |
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