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| 00:22.42 | gimmel | Hi everyone, I'm trying to build a new drive layout to then dd/rsync my install across (HDD -> SSD is the why). My target drive is to be LVM and LUKS. I'm just trying to get my head around what order to do things. I thought: 1/ fdisk, create partition with 8e type (LVM); 2/ LUKS the partition; 3/ open the LUKS; 4/Start the pv/lv create process. The issue is that pvcreate whinges that the filesystem is |
| 00:22.48 | gimmel | mounted. What process should I be following instead? |
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| 00:23.13 | ksk | why not just copy over the data (cp)? |
| 00:24.12 | ksk | I dont really understand what you are trying to do tbh. |
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| 00:26.13 | gimmel | ksk: Well to cp I need a filesystem to cp to. What I'm trying to ascertain is how to setup a new drive paritioned and formatted with LVM and LUKS. |
| 00:27.18 | dvs | gimmel, but if you format a file system, won't those new partitions be empty? |
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| 00:28.41 | gimmel | dvs: yes, and then I'll copy the data from the old drive - most likely using either dd or rsync. |
| 00:29.14 | dvs | gimmel, I don't think you can do it with dd |
| 00:30.18 | gimmel | dvs: I can't dd an lvm partition to another? |
| 00:31.34 | dvs | gimmel, I'm not that familiar with LVM but I thought the source partition was a "normal" partition. |
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| 00:47.11 | BalooRJ | Question for anyone using them |
| 00:47.23 | BalooRJ | does HDMI output work with a hybrid graphics setup on Debian yet? |
| 00:47.27 | BalooRJ | I'm using Optimus |
| 00:47.33 | BalooRJ | Er, Bumblebee. |
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| 00:55.37 | velix | Anyone with an idea, why I'm getting a permission denied here? https://bpa.st/J4FQ |
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| 01:07.09 | velix | Got it working. |
| 01:12.15 | abrotman | BalooRJ: /msg dpkg bumblebee |
| 01:12.40 | abrotman | BalooRJ: you'd probably have to ask the project directly if the site isn't clear |
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| 01:40.42 | BalooRJ | abrotman - thanks |
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| 02:18.07 | jvwjgames | I'm having issues authenticating users on my RADIUS server I add the user to the users file like it says too and I even just to test added the user to users in the Web GUI. But my RADIUS server still cannot auth them. :( |
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| 03:29.03 | bigfluff | Aha, I've been using Debian-based distros for years and years, finally gave Debian Stable a go and can't see looking back :) |
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| 03:34.28 | r3 | welcome to the cool kid's table ;) |
| 03:37.59 | seventwo | google is failing me... anyone know why i'm getting weird signature issues on apt-get update? this is happening on https://hub.docker.com/layers/debian/library/debian/stable-slim/images/sha256-b775e9c41e16ed81870ff95e68ab1e221b4437bd7c780be806636a8c6b7be49b: https://pastebin.com/VMjyETL3 |
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| 04:02.12 | seventwo | sorted myself out... caching problems... |
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| 05:58.10 | Abrax | how do you view the list of chans you have registered |
| 05:58.31 | uplime | like irc channels? |
| 05:58.40 | Abrax | ya |
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| 05:58.48 | uplime | /msg nickserv listchans |
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| 05:59.19 | Abrax | ah nice |
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| 06:01.48 | CrazyTux | hello.. |
| 06:02.16 | CrazyTux | is there any gui tool to split audio files into multiple files? |
| 06:03.23 | nkuttler | CrazyTux: audacity |
| 06:03.46 | CrazyTux | nkuttler, ok. How to do that on audacity? |
| 06:04.10 | nkuttler | read the manual? |
| 06:04.30 | CrazyTux | I'll install that package first |
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| 06:05.45 | CrazyTux | nkuttler, ok. Installed. |
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| 06:07.36 | Haohmaru | CrazyTux you do it by loading your audio and then clicking around |
| 06:07.49 | CrazyTux | Haohmaru, ok |
| 06:08.25 | CrazyTux | I got some info in the help documents |
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| 06:16.09 | CrazyTux | thanks a lot. |
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| 07:00.55 | Haohmaru | ,v inkscape |
| 07:00.57 | judd | Package: inkscape on amd64 -- jessie: 0.48.5-3; stretch: 0.92.1-1; buster: 0.92.4-3; buster-backports: 1.0-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 1.0-1; sid: 1.0-1 |
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| 07:47.27 | FesterJester | Hello all. I have a Debian 10 lxc container and I am trying to install "checkinstall", but I get "E: Unable to locate package checkinstall" |
| 07:48.06 | FesterJester | Google Fooing tells me it should be in the repo, but I have not had any success. What am I doing wrong here? |
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| 07:53.24 | nkuttler | FesterJester: did you run apt-get update? |
| 07:53.52 | nkuttler | ,v checkinstall |
| 07:53.53 | judd | Package: checkinstall on amd64 -- jessie: 1.6.2-4; stretch: 1.6.2-4; buster-backports: 1.6.2+git20170426.d24a630-2~bpo10+1; bullseye: 1.6.2+git20170426.d24a630-2; sid: 1.6.2+git20170426.d24a630-2 |
| 07:54.05 | nkuttler | !tell FesterJester about backports |
| 07:54.08 | FesterJester | Ran apt update and apt dist-upgrade |
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| 07:56.35 | FesterJester | also rebooted the container |
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| 07:59.00 | nkuttler | FesterJester: you need backports |
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| 08:06.16 | FesterJester | Thanks! |
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| 08:28.18 | kreyren | adds this on the vandalized wall of frankendebian cult in #debian http://ix.io/2oSv |
| 08:32.28 | ratrace | kreyren: but how much franken is it? |
| 08:32.47 | kreyren | ratrace, all the way! http://ix.io/2oSJ |
| 08:33.44 | kreyren | also on custom OS that is sandboxing kernels and userlands so it also has stablebian on the same system -> #debian has to provide support ahahah and custom exherbo linux with arch, fedora, redhatDeprecatedThing, Guix and gentoo on demand with custom modifications that are optimized on this system =~= |
| 08:33.47 | kreyren | and no SYSTEMD! |
| 08:33.58 | kreyren | well systemd on demand using custom sub init step if needed |
| 08:34.01 | kreyren | but no SYSTEMD! |
| 08:34.45 | ratrace | that's terrible, then :) |
| 08:35.27 | kreyren | ratrace, it's perfect! |
| 08:35.49 | kreyren | it only has identity disorder with devuan, debian and that weird cow from exherbo logos everywhere |
| 08:36.09 | ratrace | I don't even! :) |
| 08:36.20 | kreyren | and also no apt |
| 08:36.24 | kreyren | because apt commited suicide |
| 08:36.33 | kreyren | We warship the cult of aptitude now |
| 08:36.46 | kreyren | you warship by pressing `?` and praying |
| 08:37.15 | kreyren | breaks only very often! |
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| 08:41.23 | ratrace | what if you submarine instead of warship? |
| 08:41.42 | kreyren | ratrace, i don't want to piss of the god of `?` |
| 08:42.09 | kreyren | he was already very angry about me using -systemd |
| 08:42.18 | kreyren | you should see the errors! |
| 08:42.40 | ratrace | I can imagine them :) |
| 08:42.55 | ratrace | inb4 offtopic bannu hammeru tho... hint hint ;) |
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| 08:43.07 | kreyren | not too many though~ |
| 08:43.11 | kreyren | https://i.imgur.com/nYus8BS.jpg |
| 08:43.15 | kreyren | and they fixed itself O.o |
| 08:43.20 | kreyren | ish |
| 08:43.34 | kreyren | runs away so that none can touch him with ban hammer then |
| 08:44.11 | kreyren | is also pretty sure that greycat would invoke `/ignore *k*r*e*y*r*e*n*@*` if he saw this~ |
| 08:44.58 | ratrace | unless he had a heart attack first :) |
| 08:45.24 | kreyren | ratrace, nah he got used handling these when he saw my posix sh |
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| 08:46.59 | kreyren | peer-review for this would be nice though http://ix.io/2oSR |
| 08:47.23 | kreyren | ehh |
| 08:47.39 | kreyren | this http://ix.io/2oSS |
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| 09:29.26 | kreyren | Where is the debian on darknet page? |
| 09:29.31 | kreyren | is looking for a pool for ntp |
| 09:30.18 | kreyren | onion.debian.org |
| 09:30.21 | kreyren | thanks kreyren |
| 09:31.03 | kreyren | aaaahhh it doesn't have that~ |
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| 09:33.52 | ratrace | unthank yourself now. |
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| 10:11.02 | kreyren | ratrace, whyy |
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| 10:36.14 | ratrace | kreyren: because you gave yourself, and thanked for it, wrong info? :) |
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| 10:38.00 | gimmel | Hi all, I'm in the process of moving my LUKS/LVM install from one hard drive to another. I'm pretty sure I'm about 95% there. Everything is on the new drive, and grub launches. However, after the grub selection screen I get "Volume group 'vgssd' not found; Cannot process volume group vgssd" (vgssd is my *new* LVM vg). Then the same two lines repeat with my *old* LVM vg. Finally a line that says |
| 10:38.06 | gimmel | "cryptsetup: Waiting for encrypted source device" followed by the UUID of my boot partition. I've updated grub.cfg and fstab. What have I missed? |
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| 10:41.11 | gimmel | Huh, and after a while it times out and says that sda5_crypt couldn't be unlocked. That's a reference to the old drive. I think I need to update intramfs - any clues on how? |
| 10:41.34 | gimmel | s/intramfs/initfamfs |
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| 10:42.04 | tomtastic | Woop!, it's building finally after about four days! - https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=nodejs |
| 10:42.35 | tomtastic | Here's hoping mips build ok |
| 10:43.37 | RoyK | gimmel: check update-initramfs(8) |
| 10:45.49 | gimmel | RoyK: Yeah I figured that's where I'm looking. I'm just not sure how to get into the system enough to access update-initramfs |
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| 10:47.22 | RoyK | gimmel: I don't have much experience with LUKS, but perhaps a live cd/usb/something might help out here? |
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| 10:54.23 | gimmel | RoyK: I've got Rescatux (a debian-based boot tool) that I can boot to on usb. It has update-initramfs built in, however when I run it it complains that it's on read-only media. Is there a way to tell it to update, say, /mnt/tempboot ? |
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| 10:55.30 | gimmel | aha "-b set alternate boot directory" never mind, let's try this |
| 10:57.32 | gimmel | hm, no change after running update-initramfs -u -b /mnt/tempboot |
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| 11:13.23 | RoyK | gimmel: are you able to mount root? |
| 11:13.32 | RoyK | gimmel: and boot? |
| 11:13.46 | RoyK | if so, just chroot into them and run update-initramfs -a from there |
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| 11:17.14 | gimmel | RoyK: yes I can. I'm also thinking though that crypttab might be the culprit. |
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| 11:22.48 | gimmel | RoyK: so to make sure I follow you right - I need to do something like: mount /dev/mapper/vg-root /mnt/tmproot && mount /mnt/sda1 /mnt/tmproot/boot && chroot /mnt/tmproot ? |
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| 11:29.20 | gimmel | RoyK: I've chrooted into the /mnt/tmproot successfully. But update-initramfs is whinging about locale settings, and then fails with "mktemp: failed to create directory via template '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_XXXXXXXX': No such file or directory |
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| 11:34.09 | gimmel | Also mounted the var partition, that seems to have been more successful. |
| 11:34.15 | gimmel | time to reboot and try it |
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| 11:41.11 | gimmel | Ugh, similar issue. There must be something else that needs to be updated / changed |
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| 11:51.33 | kreyren | ratrace, true >.> Help me fix it ! |
| 11:51.49 | kreyren | i need timesync through TCL o.o |
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| 11:55.41 | RoyK | gimmel: I'd say, make a backup of what's important and start an "upgrade" from a live thing or just run an automatic "repair". Better backup first. And make a backup ;) |
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| 11:59.35 | gimmel | RoyK: what's an automatic repair? |
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| 12:06.21 | StyXman | http://dionecanali.hd.free.fr/~mdione/mbtiles.php is not working (I can see the code) even after installing and enabling mod php7 and restarting apache |
| 12:07.31 | StyXman | what it seems to be missing is AddType application/x-httpd-php .php, but my nextcloud is working perfectly without it |
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| 12:10.46 | RoyK | gimmel: rescue mode usually |
| 12:11.08 | abrotman | StyXman: dont' you have to a2enmod php or something like that? |
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| 12:17.43 | StyXman | yes, it was actually this: https://stackoverflow.com/a/31653146/1959016 |
| 12:18.25 | StyXman | abrotman: thanks for helping |
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| 12:19.01 | ratrace | kreyren: sure, what do you need? |
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| 12:33.06 | kreyren | ratrace, some way to sync time ideally through tor assuming privacy being a concern~ |
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| 12:33.18 | kreyren | where NTP seems to be using UDP that doesn't have tor support |
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| 12:33.30 | kreyren | and debian doesn't have timesync on onions |
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| 12:38.22 | ratrace | kreyren: not really sure how that would even work, given the huge latency of tor |
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| 12:38.48 | kline | kreyren: whats the use case where ntp is a privacy issue? |
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| 12:44.27 | kreyren | ratrace, true i have latency of 423ms atm but i guess that i could offset the fetched result with the latency ? |
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| 12:44.57 | kreyren | kline, Me researching into a privacy and this is currently a major leak O.o |
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| 13:06.24 | ksk | gimmel: cant you just use the installer to install debian to that new set of disks builtin to your computer? |
| 13:06.55 | ksk | gimmel: and then copy over stuff from old hdd. helps you avoid creating all that lvm and luks stuff. |
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| 13:07.03 | ksk | *by hand. |
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| 13:16.17 | kilobyte_ch | Is there a good guide to run debian wheezy with armhf on qemu arm emulator? |
| 13:17.03 | kilobyte_ch | If I use vexpress I'm unable to get network connectivity. It shows the dialog "Detect network hardware" on installation without any option for virtio. |
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| 13:21.48 | kline | kreyren: interesting to hear, whats the mechanism of the leak and what information can be gleaned from it? |
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| 13:22.41 | kreyren | kline, It seemingly exposes the end-user using Debian that requires timesync at X amount of time to server X |
| 13:22.54 | JDBugy | Why is my system with Kernel mitigations=off over 50% CPU faster? |
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| 13:23.19 | kreyren | JDBugy, measured how |
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| 13:23.36 | kline | kreyren: that there is a user who wants the time isnt exactly a big loss of data, though? |
| 13:23.59 | kreyren | kline, it is for me assuming that this is the only thing that bleeds through clearnet on my system atm O.o |
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| 13:28.15 | JDBugy | kreyren: Kernel compilation, iperf and many other things. |
| 13:28.45 | kreyren | JDBugy, i don't see how you can get +50% performance above the advertised |
| 13:28.57 | kreyren | assuming that the science conflicts here |
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| 13:30.48 | JDBugy | kreyren: yes but the differences are huge. And you can feel it!!! |
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| 13:31.17 | A4L | hello! Why, after installing telnetd with `apt install telnetd`, I still do not get telnetd available from bash? I mean I get I tried `find / | grep telnetd` and found no telnetd binary. Is the apt package telnetd by any chance just a service or can I use it directly from the commandline? |
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| 13:31.31 | A4L | * I mean I get a telnetd command not found error. |
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| 13:41.49 | floogy | Hi, I transferred an old virtuozzo vserver to a local virtualbox instance and upgraded the jessie system i386 to buster amd64 with |
| 13:41.49 | floogy | lighttpd/1.4.53. I got issues with php-fpm. I receive 500 and 503 http server errors. |
| 13:41.49 | floogy | ERROR: Another FPM instance seems to already listen on /run/php/php7.3-fpm.sock |
| 13:41.49 | floogy | ERROR: FPM initialization failed |
| 13:41.50 | floogy | I uncommented out the fastcgi server config in lighttpd.conf # "socket" => "/var/run/lighttpd/php7.3-fpm.sock", |
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| 13:42.28 | A4L | floogy permissions? |
| 13:42.39 | A4L | and don't paste here, you'll get kicked. |
| 13:43.06 | floogy | I was kicked. How much lines appeared? |
| 13:43.39 | floogy | ERROR: Another FPM instance seems to already listen on /run/php/php7.3-fpm.sock |
| 13:43.39 | floogy | ERROR: FPM initialization failed |
| 13:44.06 | floogy | I uncommented out the fastcgi server config in lighttpd.conf # "socket" => "/var/run/lighttpd/php7.3-fpm.sock", |
| 13:44.07 | floogy | /etc/php/7.3/fpm/pool.d/www.conf:36:listen = /run/php/php7.3-fpm.sock |
| 13:44.16 | floogy | https://paste.debian.net/1151595/ |
| 13:44.16 | floogy | config https://bpa.st/AGTQ |
| 13:44.39 | floogy | All permissions seem to have www-data |
| 13:44.56 | floogy | top shows lighttpd with www-data |
| 13:45.56 | floogy | It's due to misconfiguration I guess, because something changed in lughttpd and/or php-fpm from jessie to buster. |
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| 13:49.48 | floogy | I really don't have a clue, which second instance are already listening on run/php/php7.3-fpm.sock |
| 13:50.41 | floogy | There are only threaded instances of php-fpm itself inherited from the fpm master |
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| 13:57.06 | floogy | tail /var/log/lighttpd/error.log |
| 13:57.06 | floogy | 2020-06-11 15:56:01: (gw_backend.c.476) unlink /var/run/lighttpd/php.socket-0 after connect failed: Connection refused |
| 13:57.06 | floogy | 2020-06-11 15:56:01: (gw_backend.c.328) child exited: 70 unix:/var/run/lighttpd/php.socket-0 |
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| 13:57.45 | floogy | ls -ld /var/run/lighttpd/* |
| 13:57.45 | floogy | srwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 0 Jun 11 15:57 /var/run/lighttpd/php.socket- |
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| 13:59.25 | floogy | https://bpa.st/MGIA |
| 13:59.39 | floogy | I don't get it. |
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| 14:04.22 | floogy | lighttpd/conf-enabled https://bpa.st/RCYA |
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| 14:07.06 | Abrax | why does BX install not work on debian |
| 14:07.28 | greycat | !errors |
| 14:07.28 | dpkg | If you don't tell us the exact error messages you get, we can't tell you what's wrong, and it's also useful to know exactly what command you're typing. Please look for the *first* error that occurs, as this is often the cause of later errors -- ask me about <localized errors> too. Please don't paste in the channel, use a pastebin instead; ask me about <pastebin>. |
| 14:07.33 | Abrax | Makefile:185: recipe for target 'ctcp.o' failed |
| 14:07.33 | Abrax | make[1]: *** [ctcp.o] Error 1 |
| 14:07.33 | Abrax | make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/zuberlan/BitchX/source' |
| 14:07.34 | Abrax | Makefile:201: recipe for target 'BitchX' failed |
| 14:07.34 | Abrax | make: *** [BitchX] Error 2 |
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| 14:07.41 | Abrax | that is what i was afraid of |
| 14:07.46 | greycat | Find the *first* error. |
| 14:08.43 | Abrax | its the target ctcp.o failed |
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| 14:09.23 | greycat | There has to be a *reason*, though. What does "recipe failed" mean? I've been compiling shit for decades and I've never seen that. Find the *cause*. |
| 14:10.10 | Abrax | thats all it says after stuff flies by and it just stops |
| 14:10.12 | greycat | Hmm, it's repeated at the end. Sounds like a generic "something failed" message from make. Must be new wording. |
| 14:10.35 | greycat | Run "make >log 2>&1" and then go through the log file and find the first error, or nobody can help you. |
| 14:10.41 | floogy | I exchanged "socket" => "/var/run/lighttpd/php.socket", to "socket" => "/var/run/lighttpd/php7.3-fpm.sock", in /etc/lighttpd/conf-enabled/15-fastcgi-php.conf, but without any effect. |
| 14:12.13 | Abrax | that run doesnt do anything |
| 14:12.29 | greycat | It creates a file named "log". |
| 14:12.37 | Abrax | ah k |
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| 14:14.16 | Abrax | ah ok what does the 2>&1 do |
| 14:14.32 | Abrax | is that a formatting for the log file? |
| 14:14.33 | greycat | Makes sure you get stderr and not just stdout. |
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| 14:15.24 | Abrax | ctcp.c:179:14: error: static declaration of âctcp_typeâ follows non-static declaration |
| 14:15.44 | greycat | Much better! |
| 14:16.04 | Abrax | not sure what that means |
| 14:16.06 | greycat | Now you get to discuss this with the bitchx developers, or learn enough C to fix the error yourself. |
| 14:16.20 | Abrax | so bitchx is just broke then |
| 14:16.39 | greycat | It's possible that you may need to comment out something, or replace a definition with an #include, or who knows what. Or better still, stop trying to use bitchx. |
| 14:16.52 | Abrax | hah |
| 14:17.01 | Abrax | maybe it doesnt work with debian very well |
| 14:17.10 | greycat | Maybe it doesn't work in the 21st century. |
| 14:17.18 | Abrax | could be |
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| 14:17.42 | Abrax | you cant even apt-get install it |
| 14:17.45 | Abrax | the package doesnt even exist |
| 14:18.01 | flayer | your package doesn't even exist |
| 14:18.04 | greycat | It did, many years ago. It was deleted so long ago that it's not even on the tracker. (I just checked.) |
| 14:18.06 | beardy | "ctcp_type" sounds very bitchx and IRC-related, nothing to do with which distro you are compiling it on. Use irssi instead too. |
| 14:18.50 | randy408 | if a new, comaptible release of a debian package is available and it depends on an unpackaged library and is bundled, what's the timeline for that library to be packaged? |
| 14:18.50 | Abrax | k i will take a look at irssi |
| 14:19.38 | Abrax | hah geeze |
| 14:19.44 | Abrax | BX really is out of life then on debian |
| 14:19.49 | Abrax | that is pretty crazy |
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| 14:20.27 | greycat | !bitchx |
| 14:20.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, bitchx is an old and unmaintained <IRC> client built on epic and ircII. It was abandoned by its upstream, has known security issues, and was removed from Debian post-Etch to resolve bug #451373. Ask me about <irssi>, <hexchat>, <konversation>, <weechat> for alternatives. To ignore BitchX quit messages in irssi, ask me about <literal bitchxignore>. |
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| 14:21.03 | Abrax | hm ok |
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| 14:23.03 | beardy | ircii is also still packaged if you want that ancient experience. |
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| 14:23.06 | Abrax | ya irssi ran flawlessly |
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| 14:25.52 | beardy | I have a colleague who I suspect uses BitchX, he uses a public awaylog with BX-MsgLog messages all the time.. sigh. |
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| 14:26.31 | beardy | But so few of us are still using IRC at work, so I let it pass. |
| 14:26.55 | beardy | msg dpkg literal bitchxignore |
| 14:27.03 | beardy | Bah.. |
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| 14:29.06 | beardy | might need to trim his ignorelist which has looked mostly the same for >10 years.. 48 entries |
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| 14:30.29 | annadane | !literal bitchxignore |
| 14:30.29 | dpkg | "bitchxignore" is "/ignore -regexp -pattern (BitchX|BX) * QUITS" |
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| 14:31.14 | greycat | ahhhh. yeah, ok, that's failing because of a conflict between bot syntax and -regexp syntax. |
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| 14:31.46 | greycat | I think dpkg needs a <literal> or something that you can put at the start of a factoid to suppress the bot randomizing stuff. |
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| 14:33.41 | beardy | greycat: There is <reply> ? |
| 14:33.53 | greycat | that doesn't turn off (a|b) stuff afaik |
| 14:34.05 | greycat | it just turns off the "rumor has it" prefixes |
| 14:34.27 | beardy | It does, only cmd: does (eval|uation) afaik? |
| 14:34.35 | greycat | !bitchxignore |
| 14:34.35 | dpkg | [bitchxignore] /ignore -regexp -pattern BitchX * QUITS |
| 14:34.39 | beardy | Or, no.. nvm.. no. |
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| 14:34.59 | greycat | We've had this problem with other factoids before. Anything that wants (foo|bar) in it. |
| 14:35.06 | beardy | nods |
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| 14:36.13 | beardy | Speaking about ancient IRC-applications.. |
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| 14:48.53 | dreamer | hmm, probably useless complaint, but I often have that my X-session gets really slow. I have an nvidia card with the proprietary driver. one thing I notice is that if I run `nvidia-smi` it'll be very slow to produce output, and some of the sensor readings just say `ERR!` |
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| 14:49.05 | dreamer | I guess it's a "nvidia sucks, live with it" kind of deal |
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| 14:49.36 | dreamer | only way to resolve it is hard-reset the machine, because just restarting the X session just hangs everything |
| 14:50.01 | dreamer | (even with a plain 'reboot' it hangs in the shutdown procedure) |
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| 14:52.02 | metbsd | how do i list all packages in a repo |
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| 14:52.30 | greycat | it'll be in /var/lib/apt/lists/ after you do "apt-get update" or equivalent |
| 14:54.41 | metbsd | including those haven't been installed yet |
| 14:54.56 | greycat | correct |
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| 14:58.48 | brutser | for my linux distros i always use ext4 filesytem, now i bought a synology nas and i wonder what to use as synology recommends btrfs, i know i need one volume with btrfs for virtual machine as it won't function with ext4, but for example to backup my files from my various linux machines, should i use ext4 or btrfs and trust its working? |
| 14:59.05 | greycat | I have zero trust in btrfs, personally. |
| 14:59.24 | greycat | I think most of the people who *would* have chosen btrfs have gone zfs instead. |
| 14:59.41 | brutser | ok |
| 14:59.49 | brutser | well i can use ext4 where possible |
| 14:59.59 | brutser | and put the vms on a separate volume with btrfs |
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| 15:20.40 | metbsd | what is btrfs |
| 15:20.45 | greycat | !btrfs |
| 15:20.45 | dpkg | Btrfs (B-tree file system) is a copy on write filesystem for Linux, aimed at implementing advanced features while focusing on fault tolerance, repair and easy administration. Merged in mainline at Linux 2.6.29, utilities are packaged in btrfs-tools. http://wiki.debian.org/Btrfs http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/ #btrfs on irc.freenode.net. See also <btrfs gotchas>. |
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| 15:46.24 | floogy | A4L, ERROR: Another FPM instance seems to already listen on /run/php/php7.3-fpm.sock |
| 15:46.48 | floogy | The culprit was to configure unix socks over port 9000 |
| 15:47.23 | floogy | ERROR: Another FPM instance seems to already listen on /run/php/php7.3-fpm.sock |
| 15:47.24 | floogy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.04 | floogy | sorry for the noise. |
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| 15:51.17 | annadane | !win floogy |
| 15:51.17 | dpkg | Congratulations, floogy! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 15:51.22 | rpifan | seems im missing support for some german symbols |
| 15:51.25 | rpifan | how do i install those |
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| 15:51.57 | petn-randall | rpifan: Do you mean the German keyboard layout? Or what symbols are you talking about? |
| 15:52.19 | rpifan | well i opened something in irc and it was missing the scharfes S in the title bar it only displayed a question mark |
| 15:52.22 | rpifan | on hexchat |
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| 15:55.23 | floogy | annadane, I noticed. It happended unintentionally due to a right mouse click, though. |
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| 15:58.49 | annadane | i didn't mean it to poke fun :( just wanted to congratulate floogy on identifying the issue |
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| 16:08.40 | n4dir | hi. in some how-to's i was told for audio stuff like ardour i'd need a low-latency kernel. A search told me debian has the rt kerne for that. Two question: is it correct what the how to's told me and is this the mentioned rt kernel: linux-image-4.19.0-0.bpo.6-rt-686-pae - Linux 4.19 for modern PCs, PREEMPT_RT (signed) |
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| 19:19.05 | ratrace | I think "laptop tools" group of packages are long gone in desktop linux |
| 19:19.44 | L0aD1nG | also if i just pick "Debian desktop enviroment" will install Gnome as default? |
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| 19:21.05 | annadane | yes |
| 19:21.19 | annadane | (so avoid it :P) |
| 19:21.30 | L0aD1nG | i mean to install gnome i need to pick both "Debian desktop enviroment" and "... Gnome"?? |
| 19:21.38 | annadane | no, either one works |
| 19:21.45 | annadane | desktop environment is just there if you select nothing |
| 19:22.07 | L0aD1nG | annadane: its for my fathers laptop he will do fine with gnome |
| 19:22.16 | mezzo | too bad openbox is not in the choices... (for me) |
| 19:22.26 | L0aD1nG | mezzo: i3 either |
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| 19:23.02 | sney | neither one of those is a desktop environment. |
| 19:23.03 | mezzo | I do it manually after removing all the * |
| 19:23.16 | L0aD1nG | right its window managers |
| 19:23.35 | sney | besides, if debian put every single choice in the installer menu, it would be pretty unusable. if you want a minimal wm setup it is assumed that you know how to install it yourself |
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| 19:23.51 | mezzo | indeed |
| 19:24.34 | L0aD1nG | you just select "standar system utilities" and the install what you want manually. |
| 19:24.43 | L0aD1nG | i do like that in my own computers |
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| 19:26.06 | greycat | Many of us do that. |
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| 19:27.18 | annadane | xfce's in the installer but i also don't need libreoffice or ristretto or... whatever else comes with the xfce tasksel so i do it that way as well |
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| 19:39.00 | joshh | greycat: do you use apt-cache vs apt out of old habit or technical reasons? i recently switched after noticing the offical debian docs now say apt is the most preferred |
| 19:39.17 | greycat | dpkg, mongodb =~ s#for details#and https://bugs.debian.org/915537 for details# |
| 19:39.17 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 19:39.18 | judd | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/915537 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «MongoDB SSPL v1 license and the DFSG»; severity: normal; opened: 2018-12-04; last modified: 2019-01-25. |
| 19:39.29 | greycat | joshh: use whichever one you like more |
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| 19:48.37 | qaz101 | how to join #debian-next ? it ask for invite |
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| 19:49.06 | sney | !invite only |
| 19:49.07 | dpkg | Many debian channels are on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you try to join one and you see "Cannot join (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. See also https://wiki.debian.org/IRC and https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc |
| 19:49.09 | neilthereildeil | what about mysql? |
| 19:49.16 | annadane | qaz101, oftc |
| 19:49.17 | annadane | not freenode |
| 19:49.26 | greycat | !mariadb |
| 19:49.26 | dpkg | MariaDB is a community-developed fork of <MySQL>, intended as backward compatible drop-in replacement. Packages are available for Debian 8 "Jessie" and later releases. https://mariadb.org/ #maria on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 19:49.38 | neilthereildeil | "apt-get install mysql-server" |
| 19:49.39 | greycat | that's... incomplete. |
| 19:49.43 | neilthereildeil | that gives an error also |
| 19:49.50 | annadane | because it's replaced by mariadb |
| 19:49.53 | neilthereildeil | i followed this: https://wiki.debian.org/MySql |
| 19:49.58 | qaz101 | thanks |
| 19:49.59 | neilthereildeil | ok |
| 19:50.22 | neilthereildeil | so ur saying mariadb is the debian package for mysql? |
| 19:50.38 | sney | practically speaking |
| 19:50.45 | sney | ,i mariadb-server |
| 19:50.46 | judd | Package mariadb-server (database, optional) in buster/amd64: MariaDB database server (metapackage depending on the latest version). Version: 1:10.3.22-0+deb10u1; Size: 30.1k; Installed: 66k; Homepage: https://mariadb.org/ |
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| 19:51.06 | greycat | so, https://wiki.debian.org/MySql was edited in 2020 but still looks like *that*... and https://wiki.debian.org/Mariadb is a pathetic stub |
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| 19:51.24 | greycat | They didn't even spell Oracle correctly. |
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| 19:52.10 | annadane | the wiki's quality is... variable |
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| 19:56.53 | greycat | well, I edited one of the pages |
| 19:57.37 | karlpinc | neilthereildeil: If you're starting out with relational databases and don't have legacy implementations I'd strongly recommend considering postgresql. |
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| 20:00.26 | greycat | It's kind of a broad topic. The choice of a database engine depends greatly on what you plan to do with it. |
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| 20:01.31 | greycat | If you're really just *starting*, sqlite(3) might be a great intro. |
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| 20:04.02 | ratrace | +1 on postgresql :: sqlite is not really easier to work with because it has no daemon, it must be created and used from within some code |
| 20:04.49 | ratrace | (and its command line interface suxx compared to postgresql's) |
| 20:05.19 | sney | and if you're installing a database because you're trying to deploy a CMS that recommends mysql, 'apt install mariadb-server' and proceed to the next step in the CMS's docs |
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| 20:06.05 | greycat | that's a valid point, but remember that this user *started* by asking how to install mongodb |
| 20:06.17 | greycat | they don't appear to be following a script |
| 20:06.29 | sney | ah, I missed that part. |
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| 20:11.49 | L0aD1nG | the installation completed but even that i removed all the windows files grub still detects windows boot loader |
| 20:11.53 | L0aD1nG | how is that? |
| 20:12.28 | greycat | Because the boot loader is not part of the Windows data partitions. It's part of the EFI partition, and maybe other places. |
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| 20:14.38 | L0aD1nG | i will remove the option from the grub.cfg |
| 20:15.30 | sney | update-grub will add the entry back next time you have a kernel upgrade if you do that. but you can comment out/disable the relevant stuff in /etc/grub.d |
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| 20:16.51 | greycat | you could remove os-prober, or you could remove whatever lingering pieces of Windows os-prober is finding |
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| 20:22.43 | L0aD1nG | okay my father's laptop is ready and steady :D |
| 20:22.50 | L0aD1nG | guys thanks a lot for all the help |
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| 20:29.23 | neilthereildeil | hello. how do i install the mariadb connector from pip under debian? |
| 20:29.28 | neilthereildeil | for pythong development |
| 20:29.32 | neilthereildeil | python* |
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| 20:33.17 | BCMM | neilthereildeil: which connector? aren't there a bunch of those? |
| 20:34.10 | neilthereildeil | wait, ipip install mysqlclient worked to connect ot mariadb |
| 20:34.21 | BCMM | if it's with pip, it will work just the same as on any distro |
| 20:34.32 | BCMM | neilthereildeil: but you could install that with apt instead |
| 20:34.50 | BCMM | mysqlclient is in Debian as mysqlclient |
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| 20:35.00 | BCMM | sorry, in debian as python-mysqldb |
| 20:35.28 | BCMM | (or, more likely perhaps, python3-mysqldb) |
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| 20:54.18 | gimmel | Hi all, I'm looking for someone with a good head for LUKS/LVM and general boot repair. I've moved the data from my old HDD to a new SSD. Old LVM vg was hostname--vg; New LVM vg is vgssd. /boot in both cases is a separate primary partition (old=sdb1 and new=sda1). I'm trying to figure out what needs updating for the new vg. I've updated fstab and grub.cfg. I think I then need to chroot into the new drive to |
| 20:54.24 | gimmel | run update-initramfs. Is there anywhere else I need to update either for the new vg or new /boot? |
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| 21:03.03 | no_gravity | I wonder if this is a good coinflig oneliner: if (( RANDOM % 2 == 0 )); then echo Yes; else echo No; fi |
| 21:03.10 | no_gravity | When I put it in a loop and ouput a million decisions, it looks good. |
| 21:03.17 | no_gravity | But in my daily use, it has produced 130 No and 90 Yes. |
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| 21:09.47 | blurkis | no_gravity: did you assume that with only 220 times, you would get 110/110? Surely many times it will be odd outcome. Unless you run it milions of times, |
| 21:10.27 | no_gravity | I have the feeling 130/90 is pretty unlikely. |
| 21:10.56 | r3 | https://xkcd.com/221/ |
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| 21:11.41 | ratrace | also: https://dilbert.com/strip/2001-10-25 |
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| 21:16.07 | r3 | no_gravity: see this comment on this page [ https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1194882/how-to-generate-random-number-in-bash/1195035 ] |
| 21:16.18 | r3 | "By moduloing your random input, you are "pigeon-holing" the results. " |
| 21:16.39 | r3 | but may not hold true for simply 0 and 1 |
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| 21:17.41 | r3 | no_gravity: maybe try 'shuf' instead? |
| 21:18.26 | no_gravity | r3: But how to judge the approaches? In a loop, the %2 approach is fair. |
| 21:18.34 | r3 | (with shuf, remember to add -r) |
| 21:18.51 | r3 | well, I'm not sure - I would use /dev/urandom |
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| 21:30.32 | no_gravity | The wald test might be the right one: https://measuringu.com/wald/ - when I put in 90/220 - a 0.5 distribution is not within the 95% confidence level. |
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| 22:10.09 | JohnDoe2 | hey guys, what exactly does this mean? modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:508 kmod_lookup_alias_from_builtin_file() could not open builtin file '/lib/modules/3.16.0-10-amd64/modules.builtin.bin' I have headers and generic packages installed |
| 22:11.20 | sney | 3.16? that's.. vintage |
| 22:11.47 | JohnDoe2 | right? It's a stupid container -> vm auto conversion by the host |
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| 22:13.09 | sney | what's the context of that error? what were you trying to do |
| 22:13.26 | JohnDoe2 | modprobe iptables because on reboot iptables -nvL says the module isn't there |
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| 22:14.51 | JohnDoe2 | anyway probably not as critical just wanted fw and fail2ban working while I work on porting away from this awful host |
| 22:15.33 | sney | some vm hosts have been know to do weird stuff with the kernel anyway |
| 22:16.07 | sney | probably best bet to just lock down your services rather than depending on iptables, especially if you're taking your business elsewhere |
| 22:16.28 | JohnDoe2 | I'm sure of that, I've installed 4.9.0-0 (this is debian 8.1) and it's not picked up on reboot |
| 22:16.48 | r3 | no_gravity: maybe try : D2B=({0..1}{0..1}{0..1}{0..1}{0..1}{0..1}{0..1}{0..1}) ; echo ${D2B[$(od -A n -t d -N 1 /dev/urandom)]} | cut -c8 |
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| 22:18.36 | JohnDoe2 | iptables + fail2ban was my way to ban idiots for a really long time. No legitimate traffic makes several attempts at logging in as different email/ssh accounts |
| 22:19.09 | annadane | running debian 8 on an internet facing machine is probably a bad idea? |
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| 22:20.45 | sney | those ssh botnets will never get in if sshd_config is reasonably sane, so if the volume isn't enough to DoS you then it's literally nothing to worry about. especially if you won't be using that vm for long. |
| 22:21.30 | sney | it's just log noise. |
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| 22:53.49 | JohnDoe2 | gotcha thnak you |
| 22:53.52 | JohnDoe2 | thank* |
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| 23:01.55 | JohnDoe2 | annadane everything has vulnerabilities sooner or later. Either way oldoldstable with a 3.6 kernel is indeed a really bad idea :) |
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| 23:03.51 | tds | annadane: you run out of LTS in about 2 weeks, so er, better get upgrading ;) |
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| 23:06.44 | annadane | it's not me :P |
| 23:06.49 | annadane | i am happily on debian 10.4 |
| 23:08.40 | tds | oh haha, oops, didn't go far enough through scrollback |
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| 23:15.46 | r3 | no_gravity: or better yet: xxd -c1 -l1 -b /dev/urandom | cut -c18 |
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