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00:27.15 | kevinnn | does anyone know if the "quiet" kernel line parameter was removed from debian buster? |
00:27.33 | kevinnn | it doesn't seem to make the system boot quietly like it did in stretch |
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00:34.25 | tytan | hello everyone. i want to write random data to several disks at once and then shutdown the computer after every pocess finished. my current solution is like this |
00:34.27 | tytan | su -c 'while [[ -d /proc/123 ]]Â ||Â [[ -d /proc/134 ]]; do sleep 1; done; poweroff' |
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00:34.33 | tytan | but is there a better way? |
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00:36.33 | ryouma | if you have deleted or moved a conffile, will upgrading ask you whether to restore it? i think maybe specifying force confmiss is unnecesasry for me as i am ok if it will ask in such (rare) cases. |
00:37.10 | themill | no, dpkg assumes that if you deleted a conffile you did that intentionally |
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00:39.55 | ryouma | themill: interesting. but if you /change/ a conffile, it asks. |
00:40.28 | themill | only if there's a new version of that file in the package |
00:40.54 | ryouma | right. but it is different if tehre is a new version of your moved or deleted file? |
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00:58.30 | themill | ryouma: dpkg doesn't prompt you for that - you want the whole file gone if you've deleted it. (this is another reason why conf.d/foo.conf snippets are so handy) |
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01:07.18 | Neobenedict | is there any reason to use LVM on a 10TB drive |
01:07.24 | Neobenedict | which will be mounted as one partition to /storage |
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01:15.00 | SerajewelKS | Neobenedict: i use LVM just about everywhere, except external storage |
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01:15.38 | SerajewelKS | LVM allows you to do useful things like move volumes between devices without downtime. you may not expect to now but it might come in handy later. |
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01:17.54 | SerajewelKS | LVM is rarely about what it lets you do now, but about what it lets you do later |
01:20.37 | SerajewelKS | using LVM but leaving 5-10% of the VG free will give you even more freedom |
01:20.54 | Neobenedict | can someone tell me if this makes sense https://i.imgur.com/kPegskn.png |
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01:23.00 | SerajewelKS | looks fine to me as long as it's not an EFI system |
01:23.31 | Neobenedict | ...it might be |
01:23.57 | Lope | LVM FTW |
01:24.00 | Neobenedict | er imma add swap space |
01:24.10 | SerajewelKS | i'd suggest using one VG for both volumes, but the installer doesn't have a way to specify which PVs to allocate extents from |
01:24.28 | Lope | backup your partition layout info and raid and LVM superblocks. #justSaying. |
01:25.34 | SerajewelKS | you can do it from the command line if you want. then you can set the allocation policy to cling. |
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01:26.09 | Neobenedict | i really don't need swap space |
01:26.12 | Neobenedict | this machine has 64gb ram |
01:26.25 | Neobenedict | and the main ssd is only 256gb |
01:27.26 | Neobenedict | <SerajewelKS> i'd suggest using one VG for both volumes, but the installer doesn't have a way to specify which PVs to allocate extents from |
01:27.32 | Neobenedict | so I can't do this until the system is installed? |
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01:41.24 | SerajewelKS | Neobenedict: you can but you have to use the command-line to do it |
01:41.36 | SerajewelKS | e.g. you can do it from the installer CD but not using the installer's GUI |
01:41.45 | Neobenedict | ah |
01:41.55 | SerajewelKS | the GUI doesn't let you specify which PV to allocate from, nor the VG allocation policy |
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01:42.43 | SerajewelKS | so you can set up the partitions and flag the LVM PVs, then go to the command line, set up the LVs, go back to the GUI and force it to reload the partition list, then set up the stuff inside of the LVs using the GUI |
01:42.55 | SerajewelKS | may be more trouble than it's worth |
01:43.03 | Neobenedict | https://i.imgur.com/JtOf1uf.png |
01:43.05 | Neobenedict | i'm going with this |
01:43.06 | Neobenedict | i think |
01:43.08 | Neobenedict | can always change it later |
01:43.45 | Neobenedict | also if I understand it correctly |
01:43.54 | Neobenedict | I can shrink later my /storage1 lvm |
01:44.01 | Neobenedict | and make a backup storage for the main filesystem |
01:44.33 | SerajewelKS | my other recommendation would be to leave 5-10% of the VG as free space |
01:44.46 | SerajewelKS | and yes you can shrink volumes, but not without unmounting them |
01:44.52 | Neobenedict | ah they have to be unmounted |
01:45.02 | SerajewelKS | right. you can grow online but not shrink. |
01:45.14 | Neobenedict | well, I just went forward in the installer |
01:45.16 | SerajewelKS | as long as the stuff that uses /storage1 can be stopped then it's fine |
01:45.22 | Neobenedict | first thing I'll do is unmount that and shrink it |
01:46.07 | SerajewelKS | leaving free space lets you use LVM snapshots |
01:46.14 | SerajewelKS | as well as allocate temporary volumes for whatever reason |
01:47.25 | SerajewelKS | LVM snapshots are an important part of a backup system, to ensure that you get a point-in-time view of the filesystem while backing up |
01:48.15 | Neobenedict | alright, is there a gui tool to shrink partitions lol |
01:48.17 | Neobenedict | or a guide |
01:48.23 | Neobenedict | this seems easy to mess up |
01:48.28 | epsilon | if you are new to LVM and strugglled in the installer, just setup one crypt & LVM on sda and install the base system. you can add 100TB anytime later with or without LVM |
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01:48.47 | epsilon | *10TB |
01:48.50 | Neobenedict | I'm waiting to hear that i'm fucked because i didn't boot the installer in EFI mode |
01:48.51 | SerajewelKS | lvresize can automatically resize contained extN filesystems |
01:49.26 | SerajewelKS | the mode you use is up to you. if you installed in BIOS mode then your system will boot from BIOS mode just file. |
01:49.29 | SerajewelKS | fine* |
01:49.42 | SerajewelKS | if you installed in EFI mode then the system is going to complain when grub tries to install and you have no EFI system partition :) |
01:49.56 | Neobenedict | well the partitions are all made aren't they |
01:50.15 | Neobenedict | would just need to shrink /boot |
01:50.19 | SerajewelKS | yep. so just forge ahead and if the system is running in BIOS mode then you're fine. if you're running in EFI mode then you'll probably get an error at the end. |
01:50.29 | Neobenedict | wtf https://i.imgur.com/R3FYWYW.png |
01:50.30 | epsilon | Neobenedict: if unsure about EFI partitioning (actually one extra partition at the beginning of sda), run automatic partitioning to see what's recommended. You can still modify it |
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01:50.36 | Neobenedict | halp pls |
01:50.45 | SerajewelKS | epsilon: he didn't struggle in the installer, i just had some suggestions that require using the CLI instead of the GUI and that's a bit much at this phase |
01:51.00 | Neobenedict | does continue fuck up my install |
01:51.02 | Neobenedict | or do i need to "go back" |
01:51.13 | SerajewelKS | Neobenedict: hit ALT+F4 to get to VT 4 then show us that output |
01:51.18 | Neobenedict | >alt f4 |
01:51.21 | Neobenedict | welp |
01:51.21 | Neobenedict | ok |
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01:51.33 | Neobenedict | my kvm crashed |
01:51.42 | SerajewelKS | lol |
01:51.49 | SerajewelKS | i always forget that's a window shortcut my bad |
01:51.55 | SerajewelKS | that is how you switch VTs, I promise :) |
01:51.55 | Neobenedict | now I will have to probably reinstall |
01:52.05 | SerajewelKS | i didn't notice it was a VM |
01:52.13 | SerajewelKS | my guess is that the VM didn't have internet access |
01:52.21 | Neobenedict | what a great fucking shortcut |
01:52.29 | SerajewelKS | maybe the installer should use VT 3 or VT 5 instead |
01:52.35 | SerajewelKS | for the log i mean |
01:52.45 | SerajewelKS | the way you switch VTs on linux is ALT+Fn where n is the VT number |
01:53.16 | SerajewelKS | in X you have to add CTRL but this also works on the console so maybe CTRL+ALT+F4 will work |
01:53.25 | Neobenedict | SerajewelKS: https://i.imgur.com/iLJlHls.png |
01:53.29 | epsilon | the whole install is inside KVM? |
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01:53.47 | Neobenedict | this is kvm over ip |
01:53.54 | Neobenedict | it's a physical system |
01:54.06 | SerajewelKS | aha |
01:54.13 | epsilon | ah ok, not kernel VM thingy :) |
01:54.23 | Neobenedict | anyway "mirror does not support specified release" |
01:54.23 | Neobenedict | what |
01:54.25 | SerajewelKS | gotta love ambiguous terms |
01:54.28 | Neobenedict | and alt+f1 to go back? |
01:54.36 | SerajewelKS | yep |
01:54.42 | SerajewelKS | that's really odd. maybe try a different mirror... |
01:54.47 | SerajewelKS | that one could be borked at the moment |
01:55.00 | Neobenedict | well alt+f1 isn't doing anything |
01:55.28 | SerajewelKS | add ctrl? |
01:56.00 | Neobenedict | nvm shift key was sticky |
01:56.05 | Neobenedict | ok so do I press "go back" or "continue" |
01:56.07 | Neobenedict | to change the mirror |
01:56.14 | SerajewelKS | yeah i was gonna say, my money would be on kvm doing something because it should work |
01:56.17 | SerajewelKS | go back |
01:57.31 | Neobenedict | installing debian is always a mountain to climb |
01:58.03 | epsilon | go back and select another mirror in server's neighborhood |
01:58.09 | Neobenedict | now it's stuck scanning |
01:58.10 | Neobenedict | sigh |
01:58.28 | Neobenedict | same error |
01:58.30 | epsilon | does it have network? |
01:58.50 | SerajewelKS | FWIW i rarely have install issues with debian :X |
01:58.54 | epsilon | you should have been asked for internet/network setting before partitioning |
01:58.57 | Neobenedict | it HAS network |
01:58.58 | Neobenedict | HAD |
01:58.59 | Neobenedict | * |
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01:59.04 | SerajewelKS | but i've also done it *a lot* (i manage dozens of servers at work) |
01:59.12 | Neobenedict | doesn't mean it didn't take a dump in the last half an hour |
01:59.16 | jmabsd | gdy. |
01:59.25 | SerajewelKS | can switch to VT2 and try curling/pinging stuff |
01:59.27 | jmabsd | Any more thoughts about how to make Debian BIOS-MBR-install, let me kow. |
01:59.47 | Neobenedict | DNS might be fucked |
02:00.01 | Neobenedict | no entire network is down |
02:00.02 | Neobenedict | apparently |
02:00.22 | epsilon | maybe missing DNS or default gateway... |
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02:00.44 | Neobenedict | it was working. |
02:01.37 | epsilon | you can abort the current installation step and jump back to network setup |
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02:02.44 | epsilon | just abort the current step and you get a menu where all installation steps are listed, you can jump to any step you want |
02:04.01 | nvz | just dropped this cappy phone tryin to get it outta my pocket |
02:04.27 | nvz | oops wrong channel |
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02:08.13 | Neobenedict | okay wtf https://i.imgur.com/5vqfFXn.png |
02:08.43 | Neobenedict | how do I always get the most bizarre errors when installing debian |
02:09.16 | Neobenedict | whatever, changing mirror fixed it |
02:09.26 | Neobenedict | i think my 10G nic doesn't work without the correct drivers |
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02:16.25 | Neobenedict | well the new system just gets stuck |
02:16.30 | Neobenedict | after grub |
02:17.03 | Neobenedict | do I need to decrypt before entering linux from grub? |
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02:18.06 | nvz | decrypt a fs? no rootfs is decrypted from inotrd |
02:18.20 | nvz | initrd even |
02:18.32 | Neobenedict | it gets here https://i.imgur.com/6zXqwiq.png |
02:18.44 | nvz | provided /boot is unecrypted |
02:18.49 | Neobenedict | boot is unencrypted yes |
02:18.54 | Neobenedict | where do I go now to unencrypt the filesystem |
02:19.09 | Neobenedict | pressing the first option hangs the system it seems |
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02:19.46 | nvz | if its setup properly you should be promoted when initrd loads |
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02:19.58 | Neobenedict | so that is *before* grub? |
02:20.20 | nvz | no grub loads the kernel and initt |
02:20.32 | JohnA | Sometime back I wrote a script to automate some stuff, one of the things that it did was to setup "at" to run a job after a delay. It seems that at is not installed as part of the base system. ?? is the a better alternative to "at"?? |
02:20.42 | Neobenedict | nvs: entering just hangs here https://i.imgur.com/6m65vXk.png |
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02:20.52 | Neobenedict | with a blinking cursor |
02:20.58 | Neobenedict | nowhere to enter a password |
02:21.09 | nvz | initrd int memory and passes control to tje kernel which m mounts the initrd as rootfs. |
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02:22.27 | nvz | background info is required.. sttetch with stock kernel and rootfs setup default ext4 with luks and lvm by installer? |
02:22.45 | Neobenedict | https://i.imgur.com/JtOf1uf.png |
02:22.51 | Neobenedict | yes yes and that ^ |
02:22.57 | Neobenedict | oh |
02:22.58 | Neobenedict | ok |
02:23.03 | Neobenedict | https://i.imgur.com/xZL9kwl.png |
02:23.05 | Neobenedict | it took its time |
02:23.12 | Neobenedict | but what are these errors |
02:23.41 | nvz | idk but prob either s o |
02:24.03 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
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02:24.34 | nvz | im on crappy cell i just dropped and crackd |
02:24.47 | nvz | not seen those photos |
02:25.33 | nvz | would be a huge ordeal for me to look at those right now |
02:26.00 | Neobenedict | well it seems to work now |
02:26.02 | Neobenedict | just spews errors |
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02:27.51 | nvz | i see msgs on mine too usualy some bios crap |
02:28.25 | nvz | goes to passwd prompt almost immeditely after grub though |
02:29.12 | nvz | if you see lvmetad errors though could be lag searching for rootfs partition |
02:30.37 | nvz | which usually only arises out of miscpnfig or actual issue with accessing or findng the rootfs device to run cryptsetup |
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02:46.17 | SerajewelKS | Neobenedict: those errors are expected |
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02:46.57 | SerajewelKS | Neobenedict: the kernel looks around for your / and /storage1 volumes and goes "wtf they aren't here" and spits errors. then it goes "maybe they're beneath other layers" (encryption/lvm) and starts probing for those. it finds encrypted volumes so it prompts for the passphrase. |
02:47.10 | SerajewelKS | tl;dr is the kernel trying to find your filesystems that are on top of luks and lvm |
02:47.11 | Neobenedict | SerajewelKS: there a way to tell it not to look around? |
02:47.18 | Neobenedict | and speed up boot |
02:47.27 | SerajewelKS | it won't speed up boot |
02:47.35 | Neobenedict | or not produce ugly errors |
02:47.35 | Neobenedict | either way |
02:48.16 | SerajewelKS | not to my knowledge |
02:48.31 | SerajewelKS | they're inconsequential |
02:48.37 | SerajewelKS | all of my systems using luks do the same thing |
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03:06.40 | rant | JohnA: chron is in the base install |
03:08.38 | rant | cron even |
03:09.05 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS: so the "gdisk" program converts GPT to MBR, great. now let's see how to install grub on the mbr.. |
03:09.55 | rant | as our forefathers did in colonial days :P |
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03:16.56 | ryouma | themill: conf.d? |
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03:23.08 | jmabsd | urr, Grub says "Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding." |
03:24.37 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: are you trying to install it to a partition? |
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03:24.56 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS: yes! so both to "sda" and "sda2", is that a problem? |
03:25.09 | jmabsd | googling for it it looks to me like it's fine anyhow |
03:25.11 | SerajewelKS | using partitions is deprecated IIRC, it's not that useful |
03:25.22 | SerajewelKS | installing it to the disk device is the usual way you'd do it |
03:25.31 | jmabsd | aha hm. |
03:27.23 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS: actually which program is the Curl UI wherein it asked me what disks and partitions i wanted to install to ?? |
03:27.36 | SerajewelKS | curl UI? what? |
03:28.08 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS: first time i did "apt install grub-pc grub-pc-bin", I got a Curl UI asking me what disks and partitions i want to install grub to. |
03:28.17 | SerajewelKS | you mean ncurses? |
03:28.48 | rant | jmabsd: dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc |
03:28.58 | jmabsd | cool thanks!! |
03:29.22 | SerajewelKS | curl is a utility for fetching stuff over HTTP |
03:29.46 | rant | libncurses is the console UI |
03:30.18 | jmabsd | ahh i meant curses UI, sorry. |
03:30.24 | rant | which fwiw thats called debconf and also has readline, gtk, and qt interfaces |
03:30.36 | jmabsd | rant: cool, actually where is that config file located? |
03:30.45 | jmabsd | aha. |
03:31.21 | SerajewelKS | what config file |
03:31.51 | rant | dpkg, debconf |
03:31.51 | dpkg | [debconf] Debian's configuration management system for packages, giving a single interface for asking and storing configuration-related settings. http://wiki.debian.org/debconf http://www.fifi.org/doc/debconf-doc/tutorial.html . Not to be confused with the yearly Debian Conference (DebConf): http://wiki.debian.org/DebConf https://www.debconf.org/ |
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03:32.21 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS,rant: "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" produces a config file for grub that's located somewhere, is it /etc/grub.d ?? |
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03:32.35 | jmabsd | "grep sda /etc/grub.d/*" gives nothing |
03:32.41 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: doesn't that just reinstall grub to the MBR? |
03:32.50 | SerajewelKS | are you thinking of update-grub? |
03:32.51 | jmabsd | yea it does |
03:32.56 | rant | its in /boot/grub/ |
03:33.08 | SerajewelKS | reinstalling grub to the MBR doesn't change any config |
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03:33.24 | SerajewelKS | update-grub probes for things that can be booted and rewrites the config in /boot/grub |
03:33.36 | rant | the /etc/ is on the rootfs and isnt accessible if /boot is seperate and / in encrypted |
03:33.58 | jmabsd | ah cool, great, thanks |
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03:34.07 | SerajewelKS | and you usually don't want the config in /etc anyway because you might have multiple linux / partitions |
03:34.25 | SerajewelKS | if you require it to be in /etc then you tie the boot config to a specific install of linux and that's not good |
03:34.53 | jmabsd | rant,SerajewelKS: "grep -r sda /boot/grub/*" also gives nothing, weird. |
03:35.05 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: IIRC by default it uses volume UUIDs |
03:35.10 | jmabsd | ah. |
03:35.26 | rant | yeah someone was in here the other day asking questions about dual booting two linux installs and they had two different /boot partitions for no apparent reason |
03:35.29 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: run 'lsblk -o +uuid' |
03:35.47 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: you'll see the UUID for your / volume somewhere in the grub config |
03:36.41 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS,rant: aha, so, even while i install grub to SDA, then still the Grub installer will resolve my sda2 partition's UUID and use that one in the config file as target? |
03:36.42 | jmabsd | weird but ok |
03:36.48 | SerajewelKS | Neobenedict: ^ btw that lsblk command is super useful to see how all of your virtual devices are nested, since you're using luks and lvm |
03:36.54 | jmabsd | i guess the disk has no uuid, so just getting uuid of some partition is most practical |
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03:37.30 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: the UUID is of the filesystem itself, not the disk or the partition. this is good because it means that you can put the disk in another machine, transfer the filesystem to another disk, stick it back in, and grub can still find it. |
03:37.33 | jmabsd | ok, time to reboot, see if it works |
03:37.46 | SerajewelKS | because nothing in grub cares where the filesystem is, it just looks around for something with that UUID |
03:38.01 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS: well *which* partition's filesystem does it choose for UUID then? |
03:38.03 | rant | technically the partition has a UUID too but thats not the one used |
03:38.12 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: whatever / is |
03:38.13 | jmabsd | the first partition in the MBR partitioning table which has been marked as MBR-bootable? |
03:38.16 | jmabsd | oh |
03:38.22 | jmabsd | you mean /boot ? |
03:38.24 | SerajewelKS | rant: right that's what i meant, to differentiate the two |
03:38.26 | jmabsd | whatever /boot is ? |
03:38.29 | SerajewelKS | no |
03:38.37 | SerajewelKS | grub reads the config from /boot. it already knows where that is. |
03:38.52 | SerajewelKS | but once grub is loaded it has to know where the filesystem that becomes the root is, e.g. / |
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03:39.10 | SerajewelKS | putting the UUID of the /boot filesystem in /boot would be silly. now you have a chicken and egg problem. |
03:39.23 | SerajewelKS | you have to read something from /boot to know where /boot is? that wouldn't work. |
03:39.24 | jmabsd | uu ok |
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03:39.35 | jmabsd | very well, let's try. :) |
03:40.47 | SerajewelKS | grub's job is to load the kernel and tell the kernel where stuff is |
03:40.54 | SerajewelKS | in particular where / is |
03:40.59 | rant | do or do not there is no try </yoda> |
03:41.00 | SerajewelKS | that's why the UUID of / is in grub's config |
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03:47.48 | Neobenedict | so yeah, is there some way to clean this output up a bit https://i.imgur.com/S4h6KGX.png |
03:49.04 | Neobenedict | i'm also wondering how whack HP's kvm console is now |
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03:54.45 | jmabsd | For higher res console on boot just add " vga=0x0307" to the kernel configuration in "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" right? |
03:54.52 | jmabsd | =1280x1024x8 |
03:55.45 | jmabsd | worked, yey! |
03:56.22 | JohnA | I answer to my ? people have suggested cron, I don't see how that will allow me to automatically schedule a task to start 90 sec from the end of the job I am running now. |
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04:01.08 | rant | JohnA: task1; sleep 90; task2 |
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04:09.26 | JohnA | rant, I tried that, but it does not work, or I couldn't get it to work as I wanted. I need to run task1, logoff leaving task2 to start n seconds after I leave. |
04:09.58 | JohnA | rant, No I am not build a software bomb! |
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04:19.30 | SerajewelKS | JohnA: atd can do that but the lowest granularity it has is minutes: task1 && echo task2 | at now + 2 minutes && exit |
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04:20.01 | SerajewelKS | or you could just nohup a script |
04:20.20 | SerajewelKS | task1 && nohup sh -c 'sleep 90; task2' && exit |
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05:40.46 | melissa666 | I am unable to play videos on Youtube in Chromium, but they work fine in Firefox. In chromium it just indefinitely displays "loading" gif, with no video playback ... and then after a bit says "If video playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting your device." (which doesn't fix it). Is there some package I need for HTML5 video in chromium? I feel like either an update broke something, or a |
05:40.52 | melissa666 | dependency might have been uninstalled accidentally, because it used to work. |
05:41.16 | melissa666 | I can't figure out how to determine cause, because there are no other error messages other than the "Try restarting" thing |
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05:42.34 | melissa666 | ... some video sites work (for instance dailymotion) ... so it's not like video/audio are completely broken. it's just youtube :( ... |
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07:01.52 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: perhaps the presence of /dev/kvm, and i'm not sure what you mean by "fully" enabled |
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07:06.54 | jmabsd | SerajewelKS: fully enabled as in KVM will actually work. if you see in the output i posted, there is a third column there, for some rows it's "1" for others it's "0" |
07:07.03 | jmabsd | i wonder if that means "active" or something else |
07:07.18 | telmich | good morning |
07:07.26 | telmich | does anyone know why lxd is in ubuntu, but not in Debian? |
07:08.49 | Unit193 | lxd isn't in Ubuntu as a package, only a snap. IIRC, one problem is that it's using a forked sqlite3? |
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07:21.37 | ueb | hello |
07:22.06 | ueb | I've got a problem with a client SSL connection on Debian 8, while on Debian 9 it works |
07:22.31 | SerajewelKS | jmabsd: the third columns is just the use count of the module, e.g. how many parts of the kernel are using it |
07:22.45 | SerajewelKS | column* |
07:23.08 | SerajewelKS | ueb: jessie is likely missing the CA |
07:23.16 | SerajewelKS | ueb: upgrade to stretch or install the CA manually |
07:23.21 | ueb | on Debian 8 there is OpenSSL 1.0.1 while on Debian 9 there is OpenSSL 1.1.0 |
07:23.27 | ueb | CA ? |
07:23.34 | SerajewelKS | certificate authority |
07:23.53 | ueb | how could I install CA on Debian 8 ? |
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07:25.07 | ueb | SerajewelKS: thanks for your answer, how could I install CA on Debian 8 ? |
07:25.10 | SerajewelKS | first we need to verify that's the problem |
07:25.16 | SerajewelKS | is this an https server or something else? |
07:25.43 | ueb | yes, it's a https server, with a REST api |
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07:27.04 | SerajewelKS | ueb: on debian 8 can you pastebin the output of 'curl -v https://...' |
07:27.08 | ueb | I tested the connection with CURL too, and I see different responses |
07:27.27 | ueb | SerajewelKS: ok now I make a pastebin |
07:27.51 | SerajewelKS | !paste |
07:27.51 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: http://paste.debian.net or https://0bin.net/ | pics/screenshots: http://file.io/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): http://file.io or http://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
07:29.33 | ueb | SerajewelKS: it replies with status 401 Unauthorized |
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07:32.51 | SerajewelKS | ueb: okay and what does that have to do with SSL? |
07:32.53 | ueb | SerajewelKS: http://paste.debian.net/1076778/ |
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07:33.38 | SerajewelKS | that's just the server saying that you aren't supplying valid credentials |
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07:34.11 | ueb | it's a call to an HTTPS webserver, it works on Debian 9 while it doesn't work on Debian 8 |
07:34.11 | SerajewelKS | the only time a 401 error would be related to SSL is if the service expects a client certificate |
07:34.29 | SerajewelKS | yes, and the TLS negotiation succeeds |
07:34.35 | SerajewelKS | so again, what makes you think this is related to SSL? |
07:34.43 | ueb | I made this call from 2 servers on the same LAN, and it works on Debian 9 |
07:35.02 | SerajewelKS | that's entirely possible, but i don't see any indication here that it's related to SSL |
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07:35.22 | SerajewelKS | more likely the server is blocking a specific curl user-agent |
07:35.23 | ueb | I don't know the cause and how to solve it |
07:35.27 | SerajewelKS | have you tried changing the user-agent string? |
07:36.05 | ueb | no I did not try to change the user-agent string, because I have the same problem calling it from java.. |
07:36.09 | SerajewelKS | can you run this same command (with -v) on a debian 9 server? |
07:36.12 | ueb | however that's try it |
07:36.19 | SerajewelKS | and pastebin that result? |
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07:36.32 | ueb | ok now I pastebin it |
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07:37.06 | SerajewelKS | 401 is an HTTP level error, and if you made it that far to where you're talking HTTP, then the SSL connection is fine |
07:37.27 | SerajewelKS | so this is almost certainly entirely unrelated to SSL and more related to the HTTP request itself |
07:37.54 | ueb | SerajewelKS: http://paste.debian.net/1076779/ |
07:39.12 | SerajewelKS | i just tried curl'ing the same URL from a debian 9 server i have and i also got a 401 |
07:39.30 | SerajewelKS | the version of debian is likely irrelevant. to the servers all NAT to the same public IP, or do they have distinct public IPs? |
07:39.58 | ueb | SerajewelKS: it's blocking not allowed IPs |
07:40.06 | ueb | my IP is white listed |
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07:40.19 | SerajewelKS | do all of the servers on your LAN NAT to the same public IP though? |
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07:40.35 | SerajewelKS | it sounds like the debian 8 server is making the request from a different source IP |
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07:41.01 | ueb | SerajewelKS: both servers have same public IP because are on the same router |
07:41.15 | SerajewelKS | being on the same router does not necessarily mean they have the same public IP |
07:41.26 | ueb | they're VM servers I created |
07:41.34 | SerajewelKS | on both machines, run 'curl api.ipify.org; echo' and verify that the public IPs match |
07:41.39 | ueb | ok lets test their public IPs |
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07:41.57 | SerajewelKS | if they do match then i'm out of ideas, but i can tell you that my debian 9 server has the same error |
07:43.02 | ueb | SerajewelKS: you're right :) for some strange reason they're connected to two different routers! |
07:43.10 | SerajewelKS | :) |
07:43.12 | ueb | one is connected to the backup router! |
07:43.15 | ueb | :)) |
07:43.17 | SerajewelKS | there you go |
07:43.40 | SerajewelKS | i gotta run to bed, sounds like you know how to fix it now |
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07:46.34 | ueb | SerajewelKS: surely it will work when they'll whitelist my ip.. :) |
07:46.45 | SerajewelKS | that or connect it to the other router |
07:46.53 | SerajewelKS | either should work |
07:47.01 | ueb | it's many days I'm fighting against this!! :) |
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07:48.47 | SerajewelKS | sometimes it's the simple thing you never expected |
07:49.08 | ueb | SerajewelKS: thank you very much for your help! |
07:49.13 | SerajewelKS | no problem |
07:50.28 | ueb | are you a system admin or developer? |
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09:55.06 | rafalcpp_ | uuu a critical security bug in systemd CVE-2019-3842 |
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09:56.48 | Fox | rafalcpp_: already fixed in stretch |
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10:01.13 | jelly | rafalcpp_: /msg dpkg cve lookup CVE-2019-3842 |
10:01.23 | jelly | or not |
10:01.25 | at0m | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2019-3842 |
10:01.40 | at0m | fixed in sid and stretch. |
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10:02.46 | lxsameer | hey folks, is there any service on debian which is enabled by default and uses snmp? |
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10:25.27 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. Has anyone here used InkScape from the Experimental dist? |
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10:26.18 | Lady_Aleena | Also, how do I install from the Experimental dist? I can't remember how to install from other dists. |
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10:26.39 | Unit193 | -t experimental ? |
10:27.15 | themill | cautions against doing so |
10:28.08 | Lady_Aleena | themill, may I ask why? InkScape before that version is driving me crazy by not having the top left hand corner of the workspace set to 0, 0. |
10:28.40 | Unit193 | You likely shouldn't have experimental while using stable, though.. |
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10:28.50 | Lady_Aleena | I've been told that 1.0-alpha has the ability to set the top left corner to 0, 0. |
10:29.02 | Lady_Aleena | I'm using old stable. |
10:29.24 | Lady_Aleena | I haven't upgraded from jessie yet. |
10:29.28 | themill | then you're definitely not using packages from experimental |
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10:30.19 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, it seems that I won't be working in InkScape any time soon. Thanks. |
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10:31.10 | GNU\colossus | upgrading to Debian 9 usually isn't hard. what keeps you from doing it? |
10:31.33 | Lady_Aleena | GNU\colossus, there is something wiggy in my system. I can't remember what it was though. |
10:32.16 | Lady_Aleena | Also, I haven't backed things up yet. It is such a pain to do it. |
10:33.06 | Lady_Aleena | The wiggy thing has probably scrolled out of my chat buffer. |
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10:39.55 | rafalcpp | that systemd ssh bug CVE-2019-3842 had what impact, could remote attacker with non-root ssh access escelate to root, or do what exactly? |
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10:40.15 | Lady_Aleena | Yes, the wiggy thing has scrolled out of my buffer, so I can't say what was wrong. |
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10:49.54 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, and when I boot, I see "ata3: SRST failed (errorno=-16)" and haven't figured out what that is. |
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10:55.51 | __m4ch1n3__ | Lady_Aleena, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524756 |
10:56.03 | __m4ch1n3__ | maybe your kernel is corrupted |
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10:58.00 | Lady_Aleena | A corrupt kernel can still run? |
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11:00.51 | GNU\colossus | that mesage _could_ hint at a hardware problem |
11:01.10 | GNU\colossus | message* |
11:01.32 | GNU\colossus | I think you should establish a regular, recurring backup routine :) |
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11:02.00 | GNU\colossus | if you don't have a particular solution you want to use, check out restic: https://restic.net/ |
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11:02.14 | GNU\colossus | (you can download a single binary that will run on jessie as well as stretch) |
11:02.15 | Lady_Aleena | GNU\colossus, one of my back up devices (my thumb drive) is dead, so all I have left is my two additional hard drives. |
11:02.53 | GNU\colossus | thumb drives make crappy backup destinations due to their overall rather brittle reliability |
11:02.56 | GNU\colossus | (generally speaking) |
11:03.58 | Lady_Aleena | GNU\colossus, I run these rsyncs. http://paste.debian.net/1076805/ |
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11:04.31 | GNU\colossus | Lady_Aleena, I suppose that's fine if you don't want/need revisions |
11:04.52 | GNU\colossus | but if you've got an hour to spare, investigate alternatives to a homegrown solution like yours |
11:04.58 | Lady_Aleena | GNU\colossus, I can't find a version system I like yet. |
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11:05.43 | GNU\colossus | restic is awesome - you just mount the repository (= the place where restic keeps your backups) as a regular fuse filesystem, and you'll have a snapshot exposed as a directory in that mountpoint |
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11:05.55 | GNU\colossus | so you can use rsync or cp or whatever file manager you want to restore |
11:06.33 | Lady_Aleena | GNU\colossus, you are talking over my head now. I know very little about repositories and versioning. |
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11:07.24 | GNU\colossus | a "repository" in restic speak is just a special directory that contains your backup data (your current data and all its history you instructed restic to keep) in encrypted form |
11:07.24 | Lady_Aleena | The closest thing I've gotten to versioning is on Wikipedia. |
11:07.43 | GNU\colossus | you don't have to interact with that repo; restic does it for you |
11:07.54 | GNU\colossus | it'S rather user-friendly imo |
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11:09.44 | Lady_Aleena | GNU\colossus, you part of the development team for rustic? 8) |
11:11.14 | GNU\colossus | no, I don't speak golang :) but the creators are very nice people, and always helpful. I promised to contribute a wrapper around restic that we created at work to do pull-style, centrally orchestrated backups, but that kind of fell off the radar... :x |
11:12.37 | Lady_Aleena | I just backed everything up that I want to be sure of. Now to find upgrading to 9 for dummies/idiots. |
11:13.42 | GNU\colossus | just follow https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade |
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11:17.42 | Lady_Aleena | I'm reading https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html |
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11:21.55 | worker | anyone has any idea when debian 10 is released ? |
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11:24.46 | avu | worker: sometime later this year, probably |
11:25.40 | worker | ty |
11:25.41 | themill | !wwbr |
11:25.41 | dpkg | Debian 10 "Buster" started the <freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release mid-2019. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/04/msg00006.html . Remember that Debian releases come out when they are ready, and arrive sooner, if you help ;) |
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11:26.11 | worker | i thought this channel to be really dead |
11:26.16 | worker | idled here a couple of days ago |
11:26.55 | avu | you were here for a full 7 minutes :) |
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11:28.39 | worker | yeye didnt mean now |
11:28.51 | worker | different nicks etc |
11:29.43 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, got a headache. |
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11:43.45 | scx | Hello |
11:43.47 | scx | Anyone on armv7 here? |
11:44.18 | scx | I need output of: uname -p |
11:46.29 | SwedeMike | scx: Linux wrt1200-hemma 4.14.95 #0 SMP Mon Jan 28 08:54:32 2019 armv7l GNU/Linux |
11:46.45 | SwedeMike | scx: but this is not debian kernel. |
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11:55.18 | scx | SwedeMike: thanks |
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11:59.31 | andi_ | hello, i if i want to install gitlab in a lan, what can i use for the external_url? |
11:59.39 | andi_ | i just want to access it via ip at first |
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12:17.29 | yokowka | heavenO everysoul |
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12:18.16 | hassoon | 'evening |
12:18.21 | hassoon | ow we reached 9.8 already ? |
12:18.42 | hassoon | i still remember when wheezy was the stable version back in like ~2013 or so |
12:18.53 | yokowka | hassoon i prefer 10th debian |
12:18.54 | hassoon | time moves on sooooo fast |
12:19.02 | hassoon | yokowka: buster ? |
12:19.08 | yokowka | yep |
12:19.30 | yokowka | when he will apear? |
12:20.13 | Fox | !wwbr |
12:20.14 | dpkg | Debian 10 "Buster" started the <freeze> process on 2019-01-12 and should release mid-2019. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2018/04/msg00006.html . Remember that Debian releases come out when they are ready, and arrive sooner, if you help ;) |
12:20.48 | yokowka | what is mid? |
12:21.03 | Fox | middle |
12:21.19 | yokowka | Fox bles you heavens!!!! |
12:21.52 | yokowka | How i can help debian to apear buster greatly? |
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12:22.43 | themill | Fixing bugs, mostly: https://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi |
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12:25.07 | yokowka | themil is it can shark translate on Rus' yazyk?? |
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12:27.32 | jelly | wonders if themill knows what a yazyk (= language) is |
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12:36.58 | jelly | !qotd0 |
12:36.58 | dpkg | <stew> autovaccum was killing the box before and I had to kill the postgres cluster. the stupid plugin author was too dumb to make the bot plugin pick up a new database connection <stew> (I'm the stupid plugin author) |
12:37.20 | wwilliam | hello can i sshfs mount a remote share to 2 different mount points at the same time? |
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12:37.59 | jelly | wwilliam: it is very likely you can mount it two times |
12:38.53 | wwilliam | no i/0 issues or anything? |
12:38.57 | jim | hmm, whatever happened to stew? haven't seen him for awhile |
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12:39.42 | jelly | wwilliam: do not expect contents to be synchronized right away. |
12:40.04 | jelly | wwilliam: also consider using a bind mount |
12:40.24 | jelly | !bind mount |
12:40.24 | dpkg | If you want to bind mount a directory somewhere else: mount -t $filesystem --bind /dev /chrooted/system/dev (for example). $filesystem is whatever FS that directory is mounted as, be it tmpfs or jfs or .... read man mount (and do /bind) for details. |
12:40.48 | wwilliam | bind? |
12:41.08 | jim | it means mount a dir onto another dir |
12:41.16 | hassoon | jelly: thought for an instant that you are a bot |
12:41.33 | wwilliam | thanks jim |
12:41.37 | wwilliam | thanks jelly |
12:41.39 | jim | also I would think that bind mounts don't need a filesystem type |
12:41.51 | jelly | no. fellow human. I am most certainly an organic human person, like you. hassoon. |
12:42.24 | BotaniCar | jelly has less bugs than a average robot :) Highly polished ! |
12:42.48 | hassoon | jelly: alright then :> |
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12:43.39 | wwilliam | right now im using this but this remote dir may have to be mounted again somewhere else on another users dir |
12:43.41 | wwilliam | sshfs -o password_stdin "ftpuser"@"10.10.10.10":"/some/path/" "/home/user/mymnt" <<< "somepw" |
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12:46.25 | jelly | wwilliam: each user may mount the same remote directory with their own sshfs if they so choose |
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12:47.40 | wwilliam | Thank you jelly |
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12:58.01 | Wulf | Hello! Where can I find a mirror for wheezy-updates? It's not on archive.debian.org; is the only place snapshot.debian.org? |
12:58.50 | greycat | wheezy-updates and jessie-updates no longer exist. Simply do not attempt to use them. There wouldn't be anything there even if they DID exist, which they don't. |
12:59.27 | Wulf | greycat: what about any packages that once existed there? Have they been merged into just "wheezy"? |
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12:59.44 | greycat | Yes, long long long ago. |
13:00.00 | Wulf | thanks, great to hear that. |
13:00.03 | greycat | foo-updates is just a temporary staging ground for things that are slated to go out in the next stable point-release |
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13:00.44 | Wulf | ah, right. I keep forgetting this. So after each point release, -updates will be quite empty? |
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13:01.24 | greycat | That's the idea, at least. |
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13:03.17 | Wulf | What about jessie-backports? It exists in the archives, but the Release file expired. Is that to be expected too? I know that this can be ignored with some setting. |
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13:03.40 | greycat | Either tell apt to disregard the expiration dates, or change the system time. |
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13:10.42 | jelly | !valid-until |
13:10.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, valid-until is apt-get/aptitude -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false ... |
13:10.45 | jelly | Wulf: ^ |
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13:11.19 | greycat | you can also drop an option in apt.conf as described on (e.g.) https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze#FAQ |
13:12.21 | jelly | that makes you susceptible to someone replacing all your repos with older insecure snapshots |
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13:13.39 | jelly | really really new apt (buster) has an option to enable valid-until for each deb line in sources.list separately |
13:14.51 | Wulf | Wouldn't it be better if I could specify a minimum date? |
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14:11.18 | marconline | to clamAv or not to clamAv on a personal PC? |
14:12.06 | petn-randall | marconline: Can you rephrase you question? |
14:14.01 | greycat | The only reason anyone ever uses clamav is to be able to check the box that says "Yes, I have an av installed" on some bureaucrat's form. |
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14:14.24 | marconline | is it suggested to use an anti-virus program like clamAv? |
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14:18.37 | petn-randall | marconline: If you want to scan software that is primarily used for Windows, yes. |
14:18.45 | petn-randall | s/for/on/ |
14:19.33 | greycat | I've always wondered what kind of services actually expose files containing windows viruses in the clear to an av program, other than email. |
14:20.16 | greycat | Maybe if you're executing windows programs in Wine, or some kind of binary emulation... |
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14:22.23 | greycat | Or, I guess, if you're running a Samba server that hosts Windows files, some of which may be programs. Or some of which may contain windows application bug exploits, like infected Microsoft Excel spreadsheets, if those kinds of bugs still exist (I'm betting they do). |
14:22.42 | petn-randall | greycat: You've got a large Windows share where developers dump their files for others. You'd be surprised how often it occurs that a virus-ridden executable lands on there. |
14:23.13 | greycat | OK, that makes sense. |
14:23.47 | greycat | marconline: you understand that clamav is used to scan for WINDOWS virus, right? In programs that are executed or used on Microsoft Windows. |
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14:25.49 | petn-randall | There's are a couple of signatures for Mac OS and Linux, but there aren't that many. |
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14:39.45 | marconline | greycat, I wans't aware of that. thanks for letting me know. |
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14:45.00 | nojake | hi. is it usual the jessie live debian installation is configured to launch that avahi-daemon? |
14:47.04 | petn-randall | nojake: Could have been, yeah. Note that jessie is out of support for quite a while now. |
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14:47.52 | greycat | You could ask #debian-live on the OFTC network. |
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14:48.42 | nojake | jessie is out of support? what distri is recommended then? |
14:48.57 | nojake | or version, or what the term is. |
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14:49.14 | jelly | debian 9 is the current stable release, codename stretch |
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14:49.15 | greycat | Current stable release is stretch, Debian 9. Buster (10) is next, probably coming out later this year. |
14:49.21 | petn-randall | Debian stretch, which has been out been released two years ago. |
14:49.28 | jelly | SO OLD |
14:49.53 | petn-randall | slowpokes jelly. |
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14:50.37 | nojake | oh. okay. good to know. thanks. that avahi-daemon. any idea why it would be pre-configured to run? and/or what that mdns thing is good for? |
14:50.59 | GNU\colossus | it's for service discovery in LANs |
14:51.02 | greycat | !mdns |
14:51.02 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mdns is a Multicast <Domain Name System> for use on local networks. It is used by <avahi> to set up automagical name resolution using the <.local domain>. |
14:51.04 | GNU\colossus | a handy thing to have |
14:51.14 | GNU\colossus | and that, too, yeah |
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14:52.27 | nojake | is there a file where eventual names are configured? |
14:53.30 | nojake | i guess it would override the dns configfured for the default network interface? |
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14:59.34 | nojake | lol. this is the 5th installation-trial now. i'm getting better and better @ screwing things up. |
14:59.35 | jelly | it's good to kill dns resolving inside old MS AD .foo.local domains |
15:00.01 | nojake | i have no idea how to do this |
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15:00.51 | nojake | but i guess i will have to install stretch first. i had no idea. |
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15:02.07 | nojake | and that version i have now seemed weird from the start. no net-tools installed. |
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15:02.19 | nojake | this is weird no? |
15:02.29 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/NewInStretch |
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15:03.46 | Tenkawa | uggh i hate realtek mmc card readers |
15:04.14 | nojake | thanks |
15:04.37 | petn-randall | nojake: If you tell us what you're trying to accomplish we might be able to help you reaching that goal. |
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15:08.32 | nojake | petn-randall, i just want a stable, approved debian. best no remote access or anything that would listen to some port. somebody mentioned debian doesn't listen to anything by default. yet by now all versions i installed did so (once apache, once avahi, once dhclient). so i will go for stretch. |
15:08.47 | nojake | is that information correct? |
15:10.17 | greycat | You've been using LIVE crap. That's totally different from an actual Debian installation. |
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15:10.29 | nojake | i see. |
15:10.33 | nojake | oh i see. |
15:10.44 | nojake | thanks a lot. |
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15:11.47 | jelly | nojake: fwiw, debian will only have apache running after install if you explicitely tell the installer you want a web server |
15:13.29 | nojake | back like 10 years ago debian had an immaculate reputation.. used for servers and blah. i admit i haven't been much of a linux user, but im glad to see ppl are still comitted to be helpful |
15:13.51 | jelly | nojake: and dhclient or another dhcp client is needed to get network working in many setups. Its listener is part of how dhcp _works_. |
15:14.07 | jelly | it will do the same on stretch |
15:14.18 | jelly | or any linux. |
15:14.20 | petn-randall | nojake: Note that the live system and the installed system are quite different. Live has a lot of stuff installed to demo what Debian can do, it's not really intended for anything beyond that. |
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15:15.43 | nojake | aright, nice. maybe one more thing. can u give me the exact command i have to use to verify the signature? |
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15:18.14 | nojake | reading man pages is a bit like learning a language starting at A. :p it's definitely great for deeper insight, but most of times im totally lost in the forests of options |
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15:18.53 | greycat | https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify |
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15:19.13 | jhutchins_wk | nojake: Man pages vary a lot. Some are deep in theory and not much practical use, some are great at the basic tasks but lousy on the "how" part. |
15:19.25 | jhutchins_wk | nojake: Then there are the ones that are just the blank template... |
15:19.35 | nojake | hehe |
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15:20.22 | nojake | ic. ok thx @ all. i will retire now and screw things up a bit. |
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15:24.45 | jelly | enjoy your retirement! |
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16:41.30 | demo | hi |
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17:00.17 | Deihmos | there were some updates released yesterday. whereon the debian site can i find the details? i cannot find it |
17:00.50 | Deihmos | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HshknV6l/ |
17:01.08 | greycat | What updates are you referring to? There hasn't been a stable point release since February. |
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17:02.44 | greycat | If you mean security patches, there's a log of recent ones at https://www.debian.org/security/ |
17:03.23 | greycat | You can also subscribe to the debian-security-announce mailing list to get notices of security patches mailed to you. |
17:04.55 | Deihmos | i have that subscription. I didn't see anything about mono-llvm-tools |
17:05.43 | greycat | ,v mono-llvm-tools |
17:05.44 | judd | No package named 'mono-llvm-tools' was found in amd64. |
17:05.52 | greycat | sounds like a third party package |
17:05.53 | Deihmos | since this update i notice memory use has dropped by a lot |
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17:07.20 | Deihmos | ok i think i know what it is |
17:08.01 | greycat | you can run "apt-cache policy mono-llvm-tools" to see where your system thinks it comes from |
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17:13.34 | Azlux | Is someone know why zram has been remove from many distrib ? |
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17:29.24 | jhutchins_wk | ,v ansible |
17:29.25 | judd | Package: ansible on amd64 -- jessie: 1.7.2+dfsg-2; jessie-security: 1.7.2+dfsg-2+deb8u1; stretch: 2.2.1.0-2; stretch-proposed-updates: 2.2.1.0-2+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.2.1.0-2+deb9u1; stretch-backports: 2.7.5+dfsg-1~bpo9+1; sid: 2.7.6+dfsg-1; buster: 2.7.7+dfsg-1 |
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17:42.00 | linarcx | Hi. I install debian on my laptop, but i have no internet connection. what should i do? |
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17:43.03 | MScott | wifi? can you see networks? |
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17:44.30 | linarcx | MScott: Yes, wifi and ethernet. i can't connect to internet. no ping,.. |
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17:45.04 | linarcx | i try to use wpa_supplicant, but it gives me an error and try to reconnect every time. |
17:45.26 | MScott | <PROTECTED> |
17:45.37 | MScott | [device] |
17:45.37 | MScott | wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no |
17:45.40 | MScott | add this |
17:46.02 | linarcx | Is there any network manager service to enable it? |
17:46.11 | linarcx | i'm in arch. let me go back to debian. |
17:46.46 | MScott | after edit you need to restart the service |
17:47.02 | linarcx | MScott: Yes. sure. i get these errors: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/243280/how-to-fix-deauthentication-by-local-choice |
17:47.23 | linarcx | `deauthenticating from *** by local choice (reason=3)` |
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17:50.16 | linarcx | Where is the log of this channel? |
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17:51.37 | jhutchins_wk | !log |
17:51.38 | dpkg | Logs are what you should always check when you have a problem, they live in /var/log/ . For #debian logs, ask me about <irclog>. |
17:51.48 | CodeHunter | I had to re-install linux because there was a package that just wouldn't remove and it wouldn't let me install stuff because of it. When I re-installed, it didn't use my old /home drive. Do I have to re-install again to get the /home drive back? |
17:52.35 | greycat | If your old /home is a separate partition, just find it and mount it on /home. |
17:52.40 | CodeHunter | I am using an SSD for / and 500Gb SATA for /home and swap |
17:53.30 | CodeHunter | When I re-installed I think the / and /home is all on the SSD |
17:54.10 | greycat | Instead of guessing, you need to find where the old /home actually is. |
17:54.46 | CodeHunter | I am only guessing where the current /home is. old /home is the 500GB sata |
17:54.48 | greycat | If it's a partition, and you manage to find it, you can use "blkid" to get the UUID for it, and add an entry to /etc/fstab. |
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17:55.11 | greycat | To see what the current /home is, try "df /home". |
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17:55.22 | greycat | that'll tell you whether it's a separate mount point, or just part of / |
17:55.45 | CodeHunter | <PROTECTED> |
17:56.06 | greycat | Then it's just a directory inside / so you can mount your partition over it, no sweat. |
17:56.21 | greycat | Make sure you're not logged in as a regular user at the time. |
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18:45.45 | imkillroy | hello, im trying to run a discord bot on my debian 9 slot, and it is failing to detect my dotnet installation. the part in the installation that checks for dotnet is ' if hash dotnet 1>/dev/null 2>&1 ', but i do not have root access on this machine so my install is located at /media/8d7e/killroy/.dotnet |
18:46.11 | greycat | hash just looks in $PATH |
18:46.37 | imkillroy | so i can just move that script to my user folder? |
18:46.56 | greycat | make sure the dotnet command is in your $PATH, either by changing PATH, or by moving dotnet, whichever makes more sense |
18:47.38 | imkillroy | im still learning a lot with linux so im not sure how to do that |
18:47.49 | imkillroy | i saw something mentioned earlier about --path but it didnt go into much detail |
18:48.12 | greycat | PATH=/media/8d73/killroy/.dotnet:$PATH |
18:48.25 | greycat | or whatever directory the command is *actually* in |
18:49.39 | imkillroy | hmm, same result |
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18:49.48 | imkillroy | the command is in /killroy/ |
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18:50.16 | greycat | PATH=/whaever/you/want:$PATH |
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19:02.38 | imkillroy | yeah im still not sure, support from my hosting co replied "have you checked that it's not possible to specify the dotnet location to the "main" install you want to do? |
19:02.38 | imkillroy | i.e. it might be looking for dotnet somewhere where it isn't, but could be told to look somewhere specifically." |
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19:04.11 | SerajewelKS | that's what PATH does |
19:04.43 | SerajewelKS | after changing PATH appropriately, what does 'hash dotnet' say? |
19:05.03 | imkillroy | -bash: hash: dotnet: not found |
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19:05.14 | greycat | then you didn't put the right directory in PATH |
19:05.16 | SerajewelKS | okay then PATH isn't set right |
19:05.19 | imkillroy | i have only tried changing path to PATH=/media/8d73/killroy/.dotnet:$PATH |
19:05.31 | greycat | FIND the command. Find where it ACTUALLY REALLY is. |
19:05.32 | SerajewelKS | find /media/8d7e/killroy/.dotnet -name dotnet |
19:05.43 | SerajewelKS | my guess would be /media/8d7e/killroy/.dotnet/bin but who knows |
19:06.22 | imkillroy | what is "the command"? inside .dotnet is host sdk and shared, with a dotnet file |
19:06.45 | SerajewelKS | is the dotnet file executable? |
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19:07.37 | imkillroy | how can i check that? im in that folder and hash dotnet returned the same thing |
19:07.46 | SerajewelKS | ls -l dotnet |
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19:08.12 | imkillroy | -rwx------ 1 killroy killroy 105872 Apr 8 07:42 dotnet |
19:08.23 | SerajewelKS | pwd |
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19:09.06 | imkillroy | /media/8d7e/killroy/.dotnet |
19:09.14 | SerajewelKS | echo $PATH |
19:09.20 | greycat | does the command actually *work*? |
19:09.52 | imkillroy | /media/8d73/killroy/.dotnet:/media/8d73/killroy/.dotnet:/media/8d7e/killroy/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
19:10.10 | SerajewelKS | then 'hash dotnet' should display its location |
19:10.38 | imkillroy | -bash: hash: dotnet: not found |
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19:10.54 | greycat | if you run it (./dotnet) does it work? |
19:11.02 | SerajewelKS | but we don't know what modifications your provider might have made to your environment |
19:11.11 | SerajewelKS | hash should report it there whether it runs or not |
19:11.21 | greycat | I would've thought so as well, but who knows |
19:11.34 | SerajewelKS | IME shared hosting providers do weird shit in the name of security |
19:11.39 | greycat | maybe the file system has no exec permissions or something |
19:11.56 | SerajewelKS | that's possible, didn't think of that -- does bash check that? |
19:12.00 | greycat | I don't know |
19:12.07 | SerajewelKS | i'd think that would just effectively -x all files |
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19:13.20 | greycat | but seriously, if he just tests whether it can run at all, that would eliminate a lot of guesswork (wrong architecture, missing shared libs, no exec perms on the mount, etc.) |
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19:13.49 | imkillroy | how can i do that |
19:13.49 | SerajewelKS | right. but none of that should apply to hash except maybe noexec, if it checks for that |
19:13.54 | SerajewelKS | imkillroy: ./dotnet |
19:14.29 | imkillroy | Options: |
19:14.29 | imkillroy | <PROTECTED> |
19:14.29 | imkillroy | <PROTECTED> |
19:14.29 | imkillroy | <PROTECTED> |
19:14.29 | imkillroy | <PROTECTED> |
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19:14.38 | SerajewelKS | oh i'm dumb, hash doesn't output _anything_ |
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19:14.44 | SerajewelKS | imkillroy: try 'which dotnet' |
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19:15.03 | SerajewelKS | hash doesn't do output usually unless there is a problem |
19:15.24 | imkillroy | which dotnet? |
19:15.25 | greycat | SerajewelKS: but he claimed it was giving an error message |
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19:16.05 | greycat | and that error is consistent with what you get if you mistype the command, or if it's not in PATH |
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19:18.44 | linarcx | Gyus, is there any package like pkgbrowser for debian. |
19:19.04 | ksk | linarcx: what is pkgbrowser? |
19:19.08 | linarcx | https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pkgbrowser/ |
19:19.11 | SerajewelKS | imkillroy: does 'hash dotnet' actually say anything? |
19:19.21 | SerajewelKS | imkillroy: or does it just give you a shell prompt without output |
19:19.30 | ksk | "A utility for browsing pacman databases and the AUR |
19:19.31 | ksk | " |
19:19.32 | linarcx | A gui application that you can track all installed packaes and their dependencies. |
19:19.35 | ksk | linarcx: how about aptitude? |
19:19.38 | imkillroy | -bash: hash: dotnet: not found |
19:19.45 | SerajewelKS | that's weird |
19:20.09 | ksk | linarcx: there are also full GUI things around, synaptic or so? |
19:20.11 | SerajewelKS | all i can suggest is that your hosting provider made changes but hell if i know what changes they would've made to cause this |
19:20.31 | imkillroy | alright, thanks for your help |
19:20.34 | SerajewelKS | np |
19:20.39 | linarcx | ksk: I don't try them. this is first time i'm useing debian. Let me try them :) |
19:20.45 | SerajewelKS | FYI shared providers usually aren't the best for installing your own custom binaries |
19:20.47 | ksk | linarcx: aptitude has a "GUI" in console, and synaptic is a desktop thingy. |
19:21.00 | linarcx | ksk: cool. |
19:21.03 | SerajewelKS | consider a linode or AWS EC2 server |
19:21.23 | SerajewelKS | you get root access to your own VM and can install anything you want (within their terms of service, anyway) |
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19:21.56 | SerajewelKS | shared hosting usually costs more for some reason, and can do far less. i don't know why anyone buys shared hosting these days. |
19:22.17 | ksk | because clicky and not having to worry about anything I suppose :) |
19:22.37 | ksk | Things are not working? call the hotline. good luck calling aws ;) |
19:23.11 | SerajewelKS | well yes, the support is for different things. aws will help you with an operational problem on their end that keeps your server from working but they're not going to help you set up nginx. |
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19:23.48 | ksk | Im totally on your page, I can just imagine some people have other needs. |
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19:25.27 | imkillroy | its just a seedbox for private trackers and plex |
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19:25.47 | imkillroy | i recently got a ovh vps box and got this running there without issue |
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19:44.21 | independent | Hi |
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19:48.22 | TurqFlame | independent: Hi |
19:48.29 | independent | :) |
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20:09.10 | SerajewelKS | twobitsprite: 'mailq' will show you a list of mail in the queue |
20:09.38 | SerajewelKS | twobitsprite: if there's only one item, it's probably that message. 'exim -Mrm $ID' will delete that message. (the id is the third column of mailq output) |
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20:10.57 | zetuno | HI I have a "PC401 NVMe SK hynix 512GB" ssd in this laptop and the weekly build of the nonfree installer doesn't show the drive. how do i check compatibility for this hardware? |
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20:12.25 | jhutchins_wk | zetuno: Find someone else who has one and ask them? |
20:12.42 | jhutchins_wk | zetuno: You could try different live images and see if something detects it. |
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20:14.38 | jhutchins_wk | zetuno: If it's the standard drive for that model laptop, you can search for posts by people using that laptop with linux. |
20:14.49 | SerajewelKS | if it shows up in lspci output, google the id |
20:15.01 | jhutchins_wk | zetuno: There are hardware compatibility databases, but they rely on people posting reports. |
20:15.13 | jhutchins_wk | lspci -nn |
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22:07.44 | __m4ch1n3__ | CombatVet, i actually duno but it is debians init system,that means it is parent of all processes, im pretty sure it cant relaod while its child processes stay alive, you have to reboot |
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22:09.28 | CombatVet | __m4ch1n3__, ended up rebooting |
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22:10.58 | __m4ch1n3__ | systemd has always pid 1 |
22:11.27 | __m4ch1n3__ | you could try "kill -9 1" and look what happens :D |
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22:16.57 | edrive | Hey, I just got an external HDD and would like to encrypt with debian. Is there a default gui tool for doing this? |
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22:18.36 | edrive | Should I format to FAT32 or FAT16? Currently ntfs |
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22:19.41 | ksk | wonders, if you could use something older/less fitting |
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22:20.33 | ksk | edrive: I suppose you do not plan on using this disk on a windows computer? |
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22:21.00 | edrive | No, but the option to mount it on windows would be nice (if I need to on a rare occasion) |
22:21.52 | edrive | ksk: so it's not a necessity, but would be ideal if I could mount in windows too |
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22:22.14 | ksk | this would then mean, that you need to use a method of encryption, which works on both (debian) linux and windows. I dont think that is possible - apart from veracrypt (former truecrypt) |
22:22.17 | madage | encrypts a disk, fills it with personal data and then give spyware OS access to it |
22:22.41 | ksk | also what madage mentions.. ;) |
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22:23.11 | g0zzy | Trying to get my head around the totally new way of doing networking under systemd. Why are container-type techniques used for a simple headless server with /lib/systemd/network/80-container-host0.network ? |
22:23.26 | edrive | ksk: in that case, I am fine with using it only on a linux machine. |
22:23.36 | NitrousPG | nautilus can do it for you edrive, using LUKS |
22:23.42 | imkillroy | hello, how could i check/see what is blocking access to quasselcore on my debian VPS? its listening on port 4242 but i get connection timed out requests |
22:24.03 | ksk | edrive: then I encourage you to use some linux filesystem (ext4, xfs) and look up cryptsetup. |
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22:24.17 | edrive | NitrousPG: I use nemo unfortunately |
22:24.38 | NitrousPG | ah yeah |
22:24.48 | edrive | ksk: my machine's internal HDD was encrypted with cryptsetup when I installed debian |
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22:26.16 | edrive | ksk: is cryptsetup a CLI aplication? |
22:26.20 | edrive | application |
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22:27.45 | NitrousPG | it is edrive |
22:28.26 | edrive | NitrousPG: is there a gui tool that I can use to acheive the same result? Don't want to break my system by following an online tutorial, have limited command line knowledge |
22:28.53 | NitrousPG | honestly, as he said, veracrypt might be your best bet |
22:29.20 | NitrousPG | it's not included in most distributions because of its license though IIRC |
22:30.55 | madage | edrive: apparently there is zulucrypt-gui |
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22:31.05 | edrive | NitrousPG: the only application I am seeing in the debian repos is zulucrypt |
22:31.16 | edrive | madage: yeah |
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22:31.49 | madage | I've never used it though.. not even heard of it until now |
22:31.54 | NitrousPG | me neither |
22:32.20 | edrive | is veracrypt a standalone application? |
22:32.25 | NitrousPG | yeah |
22:32.42 | edrive | would I have to enable backends to get it on stable? |
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22:33.02 | NitrousPG | im pretty sure its just not on the debian repos at all |
22:33.17 | edrive | oh |
22:33.32 | edrive | I'll try zulucrypt then as it seems to do the same thing |
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22:34.11 | tristero | g0zzy: it's not used (it won't match) unless you fire up containers that need it. it's just inherited from the standard Debian systemd package |
22:34.35 | madage | edrive: report back on your experience |
22:34.43 | hasanibrahim | asdw |
22:34.59 | edrive | NitrousPG & madage: "zuluMount is bundled with zuluCrypt and its meant to be used as a general purpose tool that mount and unmount zuluCrypt supported encrypted volumes as well as unencrypted volumes and it can be used as a substitute to udisks, pmount and related tools." |
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22:35.26 | edrive | does this mean I need to have zulumount installed on a linux system to mount my encrypyted drive (encrypted with zulucrypt)? |
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22:36.22 | madage | edrive: you don't even need zulucrypt, both tools are just gui helpers |
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22:37.08 | madage | and IIRC, Nemo/Nautilus have some way of mounting encrypted disks |
22:37.19 | edrive | ok |
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22:47.03 | edrive | formatting the drive to FAT32 for most versatility, will see if it works with zulucrypt |
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23:13.38 | ksk | edrive: eeh, rather not fat32, max filesize is ~4G with that :P |
23:13.44 | awal1 | how can i find what is the executable of x pkg via cli |
23:13.52 | ksk | use xfat? or vfat? something like this, its cross-OS also |
23:14.12 | somiaj | awal1: dpkg -L packagename | grep bin |
23:14.16 | ksk | awal1: not really like this, but you can do "dpkg -L pkg | grep bin" |
23:14.41 | awal1 | somiaj, ksk. ok thanks |
23:16.07 | edrive | ksk: oh thanks for pointing that out |
23:16.47 | awal1 | dpkg -L epiphany-browser | grep bin "/usr/bin /usr/bin/epiphany /usr/bin/epiphany-browser" |
23:16.47 | dpkg | ii epiphany-browser | grep bin "/usr/bin /usr/bin/epiphany /usr/bin/epiphany-browser" 2.3-5.3 awal1's private porn collection |
23:17.01 | ksk | ntfs support in debian is also okay-ish (you could argue better on some parts than m$..), but Id not use that if you want to primarily use linux with the disk |
23:17.05 | awal1 | 2 executables or what |
23:17.28 | ksk | awal1: seems so :> |
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23:17.42 | ksk | man epiphany should help |
23:17.44 | awal1 | i guess yes , bcoz if i cal epiphany or epiphany-browser i get the browser open so |
23:18.14 | ksk | A package can ship a whole lot of executables. And many do. |
23:18.17 | edrive | ksk: gparted doesn't give an option for xfat |
23:18.30 | ksk | edrive: exfat it is |
23:18.57 | edrive | ksk: it's greyed out for some reason, not selectable |
23:18.58 | ksk | edrive: might be you need a package to support that. |
23:19.02 | ksk | ,v exfat |
23:19.03 | judd | No package named 'exfat' was found in amd64. |
23:19.12 | ksk | ,v exfat-fuse |
23:19.14 | judd | Package: exfat-fuse on amd64 -- jessie: 1.1.0-2+deb8u1; stretch: 1.2.5-2; buster: 1.3.0-1; sid: 1.3.0-1 |
23:19.14 | ksk | install that ;) |
23:19.24 | edrive | thanks |
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23:20.09 | ksk | edrive: on the other hand (sorry to slow you down :P) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT states its an usb flash drive filesystem. |
23:20.13 | edrive | ksk: i already have it installed |
23:20.34 | edrive | ksk: what about ext4? |
23:20.45 | ksk | is cool. just not usable on windows. |
23:21.12 | edrive | only other optin is that or ntfs |
23:21.48 | ksk | yeah seems so :) |
23:22.11 | ksk | stuped m$ not implementing ext4 drivers.. |
23:22.50 | EdePopede | what happened to that dll which was available for ext2 on XP? |
23:23.54 | ksk | there seem to be some OSS and some proprietary ext* drivers for windows with differing features. |
23:24.29 | ksk | not sure If I would advise on using something like that thoug.. |
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23:27.26 | EdePopede | iirc i used 2 tools in those days. first a crude filemanager with some strange approaches to some things, and later a dll with even write access, i remember this because i had some of the special win dirs on the partitions i used. |
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23:32.19 | aloo_shu | there's some relatively good ext tool for win, and free, probably open, lemme check a sec |
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23:33.39 | EdePopede | could be it was ext2ifs. not able to read ext4 atm and last release was in 2015. |
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23:34.39 | aloo_shu | ext2fsd (.com) |
23:35.01 | EdePopede | with a BIG FAT WARNING https://www.ext2fsd.com/ |
23:35.41 | aloo_shu | gpl v. 2 |
23:35.48 | EdePopede | linked from ubuntuusers> https://github.com/matt-wu/Ext3Fsd/issues/26 |
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23:36.59 | aloo_shu | there used to be fuse for win + an ext fs for it, but that was rudimentary |
23:38.10 | aloo_shu | I avoid win, so I don't use ext2fsd often, but when, even enable write support for ext4, no drama so far |
23:39.42 | EdePopede | may depend on the version used and maybe even on the hardware, who knows |
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23:42.02 | EdePopede | these morons... '<noscript><meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0"[â¦]' |
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23:45.16 | aloo_shu | yeah, removing drives is nothing I've ever tried, I use it to sporadically access linux partitions from win side when I've got them side by side on the int. hdd, so that I don't need to switch OS for a single copy operation |
23:45.56 | aloo_shu | can confirm the explicit warning in the README |
23:46.10 | EdePopede | same here, good old dual boot :) |
23:47.06 | aloo_shu | often more than dual here, win just in case, 1-4 linuxes |
23:48.30 | aloo_shu | can't win10 access ext *anyway*? it has an entire 'linux subsystem' if you want one |
23:50.38 | aloo_shu | just not much is getting ported for it (surprise, surprise) |
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