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00:07.22frikinzYou could try a kernel from stretch-backports, it has 4.18 while stable is 4.9
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00:09.51joepublicWhat network adapter (make/model) are you having trouble with? Wired or wireless?
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00:23.42aphorisefrikinz can I download an iso of that somewhere?
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00:24.29aphorisejoepublic It says "Integrated Intel I219-LM" "I219-V" on https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-zbook-15u-g5-mobile-workstation/18865627/document/c05881832#AbT10
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00:26.49aphoriseTher is also Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 9560 802.11ac
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00:28.02frikinzYou won't find the kernel alone. For ISO you'd have to try debian testing which packages that kernel to give it a try at least.
00:28.58joepublicThose adapters should be supported by the Linux kernel -- the question is whether they require nonfree firmware (I don't know the answer).
00:29.34joepublicIf they do require nonfree firmware, you would have to use an unofficial install image that has the firmware added, rather than the official debian install image, which does not contain any nonfree software.
00:31.25frikinzYes, could also be firmwares. --> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/
00:32.52themillI'd be very surprised if it didn't need firmwar
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00:36.31aphorisethere is also http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.6.0+nonfree/amd64/
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01:05.05LovinLinuxIs anyone aware of software that can identify "fake FLACs" in batch?
01:05.30LovinLinuxI found spek and one other but both seem to do files one at a time
01:06.00c|onemanis it possible to have apt show cpu usage or HDD usage during installs?
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01:08.19phoggc|oneman: what's wrong with using top and iotop?
01:08.39c|onemanI guess I have to use tmux or something like that to see them both at the same time?
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01:12.29joepublicalt-(function key) to see a different virtual terminal should do the trick during text install.
01:13.04joepubliccontrol-alt-(function key) for graphical install.
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01:25.57qiffansomeone with time could help me seeting up my only change of going to the internet !!well i need to configure d-link 131 rev b
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01:56.16cluelesspersonquestion, it seems my network devices are changing their name every reboot, why?
01:56.34cluelesspersonenp0s1 became   enp1s1,   then enp2s1
01:57.00cluelesspersonI keep having to change and manually configure /etc/network/interfaces to bring it back up
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02:01.43awal1cluelessperson, read https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
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02:15.02aphorisenon-free drivers did not help me either :-( cant find any refernce on Intels site for Linux drivers either
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02:17.33cluelesspersonawal1: yeah, but wtf is it changing names every reboot
02:18.04awal1cluelessperson, you have the answer if that link
02:18.38awal1if not happy ask Lennart and Redhat :P
02:18.50awal1or create something better :D
02:19.19cluelesspersonawal1: the point of that is "Predictable",  changing is not predictable
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02:20.12awal1in my sid, i still have constantly wlan0
02:20.50flaarghttps://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration this says its the bios
02:21.01awal1usb adapter named differently, part of mac adrss and a few letters more
02:21.42awal1cluelessperson, really the freedesktop article resume it all, why, how...
02:21.55awal1just read it closely
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02:22.34joepublicaphorise, that stinks.  I wish I could help more but my HP laptop "just works" which limits my experience with correcting driver problems...
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02:28.26GumShoeI'm attempting to bring up wifi on a pine a64 running debian stretch using the pine wifi dongle. I believe I have a ipv6 dhcp address I want an ipv4 address. Suggestions?
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02:34.16aphoriseActually I think I may need: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/15817/Intel-Network-Adapter-Driver-for-PCI-E-Gigabit-Network-Connections-under-Linux-?product=71307 - wondering how to include it in install iso
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02:37.16szbce8qnfgthemill, I messed up
02:37.25szbce8qnfgI apolgiize, giveme a second chance?
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03:06.25tmiwany idea what happened here? https://pastebin.com/pAb00syG
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03:36.36acidtripperhi there, why debian is not including cfdisk, and many other core programs? in it's disk
03:36.42acidtripperi mean for chrooting
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03:36.56acidtripperor partitioning before setup
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03:40.44abrotmanit's in the fdisk package
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04:01.38aphoriseI dont get it - in Sparky my nic works just fine and is listed properly under lspci as I219-LM yet not with Debian none-free firmware iso's :-(
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04:34.25rantwth is a sparky?
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04:38.32aphoriserant https://sparkylinux.org
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04:42.47rantaphorise: do you have the pciid for this card? lspci -nn
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06:27.46htbHi all, I have a weird issue with my debian testing install.  Every night a few minutes after midnight my desktop freezes (I am using awesome-wm).  Xorg.0.log says things like "(II) event5  - Power Button: device removed", "(II) event7  - Video Bus: device removed", "(II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch" when it happens.  Does anyone have any idea of how I could debug this further?  Thanks.
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09:21.00glaucomhi all, i need install video editor, i choose lightworks but need lightworks depende de libjpeg8 (>= 8c); porém:
09:21.08glaucomhow fix, debian 9 strech
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09:30.30at0m,v libjpeg8
09:30.31juddPackage: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- wheezy: 8d-1+deb7u1
09:30.38at0m,v libjpeg9
09:30.39juddPackage: libjpeg9 on amd64 -- sid: 1:9c-2
09:31.11at0m,v lightworks
09:31.12juddNo package named 'lightworks' was found in amd64.
09:31.27at0mglaucom: where did you get that lightworks package?
09:31.45at0mglaucom: and what version of debian are you running?
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09:37.27azametwhat is the room name for asking questions about deep web
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09:43.14ukineazamet, start at https://tails.boum.org/
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09:48.49gavitwhat's the path in /proc to see if auto-negotiation is set and on full duplex?
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09:54.03frikinzNot sure that is available in proc, that information is provided by the driver through an ioctl call
09:54.28frikinzapt install net-tools; mii-tool eth0
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09:56.00frikinzgavit: oh actually  /sys/class/net/eth0/duplex
09:56.36gavit@frikinz thanks, I've been trying to randomly cat several items in the wrong dir apparently
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09:58.39gavitI have a sever connected to an old modem. THe server is 10gbit, the modem is 100mbit, the cable seems fine and so are both devices. however when connecting the devices I see no carrier.
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10:03.38frikinzMaybe you need a crossover cable because one of the two DTE doesn't support auto mdix?
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10:06.07frikinzgavit: net-tools is handy for checking or reseting a nic
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10:06.51gavitfrikinz: no internet on the server yet, so I have an install with almost no tools
10:07.26gavitI was hoping to see if the nic was set to autonegotiate or to s epciffic speed
10:07.32gavitI'm trying to do the same on the modem
10:07.40gavitcant find anything about it on either devices
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10:17.22frikinzPut the ethtool (or net-tools) .deb on a usb stick and try that. Repeat with missing dependencies... There's probably a tool to get all dependencies .deb
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10:17.42frikinzHostname: zeus.teebee.n0n3m.com - OS: Linux 4.9.0-8-amd64/x86_64 - CPU:  - Processes: 234 - Uptime: 3d 3h 32m - Load Average: 1,29 - Memory Usage: 2351.20mb/3633.73mb (64.70%) - Disk Usage: 949.95gb/1168.93gb (81.27%) - External Traffic (eno1): 4968.56mb/10457.43mb
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10:44.37azamethow to know on kali linux or ios phone if the wifi is on my right,left,up or down side located?
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11:32.33NexilvaHello, pulseaudio and/or pavucontrol say,no cards available for configuration, and dummy output. Sound actually works in mocp and other cli apps. But sound does not work in GUI apps or pulse/pavu etc.
11:32.35NexilvaAny ideas?
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11:41.15at0mNexilva: maybe some other app is taking hold of the soundcard (aplay -l lists them) so pulse cannot?
11:41.37Nexilvayes, I can do that and get a list of two cards in the sytem with aplay
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11:41.58Nexilvaat0m: how can I address this? Like,make it so pulseaudio can find the cards?
11:42.08Nexilvato make it not take hold or something you said
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11:44.11at0mNexilva: close the other apps that may use the (alsa) soundcard
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11:44.35Nexilvaok let me try
11:45.35NexilvaI don't think anything is using alsa atm
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11:50.22Nexilvaalsa-tools and alsa-utils are the only packages. What happened to alsa-base?
11:50.49at0m,v alsa-base
11:50.50juddPackage: alsa-base on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.25+3~deb7u1; jessie: 1.0.27+1
11:51.21at0mseems its gone from buster
11:51.26at0mNexilva: you on buster?
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11:53.12Nexilvahttps://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=alsa-base
11:53.17Nexilvait's only available in jessie
11:53.50NexilvaI removed all the alsa packages, but sound still works in cli and not in pavucontrol
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11:54.20at0mdpkg: tell Nexilva about sound
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12:12.54FightingFalconcan you access http://kasvekuvvet.net
12:12.56FightingFalcon?
12:15.10abrotmanCan you?
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12:16.38abrotmanIf you're experiencing a problem, that would be a good start
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12:47.23csehleven though in dpkg-reconfigure nodm i chose the non-root user, it's not starting X on user login, but suddenly when i log in root on tty, it will autostart X, which was not the case before
12:48.31csehlsomehow what i chose in dpkg-reconfigure nodm isn't considered
12:50.01csehlalso during my first dpkg-reconfigure, i erased the "lowest numbered vt on which X may start" by accident; i would like to know what the default value is here. i put 7 now
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12:54.13csehlactually the lowest vt = 7 could be the problem; i'll retry with 1
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13:08.44aphoriseOn 9.5 livecd using lcpi I see my device is listed as: "00:1f.6 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:15bb] (rev 10)"  - on mxlinux and
13:09.45aphorisesparkylinux they work and are shown as I219-V and work - is there anyway I can find out / use the same drivers as shipped with those distros?
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13:13.42zarulyakuzapromos = can use?
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13:14.01zarulyakuzastill old can running setup back..
13:14.10zarulyakuzawindows broken
13:14.20zarulyakuzalinux too
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13:15.06zarulyakuzapromt = use new driver? system
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13:15.52n4dirat least make the sentences long enough to make sense,zarulyakuza
13:16.19zarulyakuzau must teach me
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13:16.34zarulyakuzaso i can talk well u teach..
13:16.37daicaguy how do i grep out the end of the line with specific numbers? like 50 for example : grep -E '[0-9]+$'
13:16.37zarulyakuzadamn
13:16.38n4dirsure. ignore. done
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13:17.25zarulyakuzain promt system type use =?
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13:17.41tmm88hey guys
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13:18.18zarulyakuzai need get unaffileated host..
13:18.37tmm88wha is the equivalent on debian of "open -a www.duckduckgo.com" as in analogy with macos operative system?
13:18.45zarulyakuzaboren
13:19.00tmm88zarulyakuza, as in #freenode channel
13:19.19tmm88@fuchs  or someone else will be happy to help you out
13:19.22abrotmantmm88: you want it to open a browser?
13:19.22tmm88*ask
13:19.25zarulyakuzadunggoo.com?
13:19.36tmm88abrotman, yes
13:19.42zarulyakuzaoh my friend fuchs
13:19.43abrotmandoesn't know what -a does in that case
13:20.04tmm88abrotman, that's for mac
13:20.12tmm88i am looking for the debian equivalent
13:20.21abrotmantmm88: I mean, you can just "x-www-browser"
13:20.22tmm88my idea is to open an url in the default browser
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13:20.50abrotmantmm88: or xdg-open
13:21.02csehli solved the problem with root having auto startx. nonetheless, nodm isn't starting X after non-root user login
13:21.24abrotmantmm88: I think that's what you're asking
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13:24.35csehlservice nodm status says "Active: inactive (dead)", but i'm already in X. is that normal?
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13:29.06tmm88abrotman, xdg-open worked quite fine for me
13:29.11tmm88thank you so much
13:29.28n4dirdaica: awk came to my mind. going back and forth a bit, this seems to work for most easy cases awk '/[0-9]$/ { print $NF }'
13:29.37tmm88i was able to fix the issues i had with a couple shortcuts i wrote for macos shell
13:29.41tmm88to do automated browsing
13:30.16abrotmanah, good
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13:47.36dvsYay! Debian 9.6!
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14:05.26EdePopedeoops. was this the update yesterday?
14:05.45RoyKdist-upgrades
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14:15.07qqzhelp I have tried to file a bug with reportbug
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14:15.14qqzbut the email addess was invalid
14:15.29petn-randallqqz: Which email address?
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14:16.04qqzwrong email address: elm@celsius
14:16.31qqzright email adress would be: estellnb@elstel.org
14:16.48qqzscdaemon: gnupg --card-status does not recognize smart card via usb reader
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14:18.17qqzhow can I change the email address for reportbug?
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14:22.08petn-randallqqz: "man reportbug.conf"
14:22.59qqzis the bug that I have filed somewhere online?
14:23.17qqzmay I change the email address of an already existing report?
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14:23.43petn-randallqqz: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control
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14:25.56qqzwhat if I do not want to enter my smtppasswd in plain text
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14:25.58qqz?
14:26.17qqzmay I send the reportbug ouput with my favourite email program
14:26.41qqzhow to configure reportbug so that it does not send emails automatically but lets me choose my email program??
14:28.02petn-randallqqz: You don't need to provide any SMTP details. It can send it directly to the Debian mail servers.
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14:28.26qqzhow does that work if it does not have an SMTP server?
14:28.48petn-randallqqz: It's a SMTP client.
14:29.08qqzpetn-rendall: what server does it use?
14:29.24petn-randallqqz: I already said it uses the Debian mail servers.
14:29.29petn-randallqqz: petn<tab>
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14:29.47qqzhow can I change that bug if I do not have the bug number?
14:30.08petn-randallqqz: You'll have to find it via the web interface.
14:30.13qqzhow can I recover that encoded /tmp/reportbug-scdaemon-backup-20181111-1914-9ybzkf6i
14:30.28qqzwhere is the web interface?
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14:36.36qqzsorry I can not find that bug via the web interface:
14:36.46qqzscdaemon: gnupg --card-status does not recognize smart card via usb reader
14:37.51qqzI'll have to resubmit a similar report since I can neither recover the bug number nor the report
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14:38.52petn-randallqqz: It's likely that your mail wasn't processed yet. It takes a while to show up in the web interface.
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14:41.08qqzI can not even remember the package
14:41.22qqzwas it scdaemon or gnupg2
14:41.41qqzhow can I decrypt /tmp/reportbug-scdaemon-backup-20181111-1914-9ybzkf6i ??
14:42.05qqzI can not find that bug via https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=stable;include=subject%3Ascdaemon%3A+gnupg+--card-status+does+not+recognize+smart+card+via+usb+reader;package=scdaemon
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14:44.45qqzI remember it has written something like gnupg2 though it should probably be scdaemon
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14:47.45qqzhow long will I have to wait?
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15:04.57oxekWhy is debian-9.6.0-i386-netinst.iso 396361728 bytes but debian-9.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso 305135616 bytes? That's a difference of 87MB.
15:05.08ballinI installed package "launchy" and tried to have it run on my user session start. But I always get two copies of it. How can I figure out what script each is using to launch on login? They seem to start after my xfce session starts so I believe that is the culprit. I'm on stretch with xfce4.
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15:08.43EdePopedeoxek: probably different libraries (i386<->amd64)
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15:11.18n4dirballin: what was your approach to autostart it? By using the xfce graphical tools?
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15:11.48zarulyakuzagrafic what have da now?
15:12.28zarulyakuzagoogleplay sorfware graficdownloading.
15:13.00n4dirsomething like: grep -r "launchy" ~/.[!.]* ; comes to my mind, to find each entry of "launchy" in the hidden users file. Not sure where exactly xfce4 has it's configs, you could make it more precise if you "find" those.
15:13.04joepubliczarulyakuza, thanks for playing.  You have failed the turing test now in both ##linux and #debian.  Your results will arrive soon.
15:13.33n4dirthe dot after ! is wrong, btw.
15:13.54n4dirwell: no. sorry for the confusion. silence now.
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15:21.37war9407Does anyone here use the iwatch daemon?
15:22.01rabbitear_sdfno
15:22.04phoggyes
15:22.07phoggeveryoen
15:22.33war9407I commented out the email address in the iwatch.xml but it still says * send mail to, I just want to log the changes but not have an email for every change, has anyone successfully modified the DTD/xml schema or does the program/daemon always want/expect an email address?
15:23.18joepublicwar:  The answer is here:  https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=iwatch
15:23.49phoggwar9407: no idea, but it looks like a perl script. Pretty easy to find out what it does.
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15:24.06war9407kk will dig more, ty
15:24.28phoggwar9407: it appears unconditional
15:25.08phoggwar9407: try commenting out line 494, 495 and 496
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15:25.33phogger, I mean 424, 425, 426
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15:26.12war9407that works, perfect, ty!
15:26.23RoyKoxek: no idea - but I tried a rough comparison of the iso files, and the packages for amd64 are slightly smaller, which for me seems a bit strange - perhaps try the mailing list if it's important
15:26.40phoggwar9407: this is an object lesson in why you never start with 'does anyone use?' -- I've never heard of iwatch before. You're welcome.
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15:26.56war9407understood
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15:30.43tmm88heyho everyone. how are you doing? I was trying to fix firmware issues on macbook a1278 with debian. is there a guide for that? cheers
15:30.54RATS:)
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15:33.21RoyKtmm88: what sort of firmware issues? please detail
15:34.07joepublictmm88,  the basic process is, look in dmesg for firmware load failures, and then try to find that firmware file (maybe it's in a package, maybe you have to get it some other way).
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15:35.07gvthI can't get libvirtd to run in order to use virt-manager. Any ideas why?
15:35.26RoyKcheck the logs
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15:54.40oxekRoyK: It is somewhat important because it is strange (bordering on suspicious) that amd64 packages would be smaller than i386 ones
15:57.22RoyKoxek: Then send an email to the mailing lists - some of the devs will probably have a good answer
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16:11.35shynoobwhats better qemu or virtualbox or vmware or any other .. if I wanna play games on windows from inside linux?
16:12.10shynoobthe game itself runs smoothly thru wine.. but the platform via which it runs online.. doesnt work properly on linux.. hence .. the need
16:12.26liske1hi
16:14.25shynoobhi liskel
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16:33.34joepublicshynoob,  you will probably be disappointed with the video (and therefore gaming) performance of any of those emulators.
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16:33.54shynoobjoepublic, what do you suggest?
16:34.07shynoobthe game is warcraft3
16:34.15shynooband the platform is gameranger
16:34.18jmdHello.  I was thinking of offering a new package to debian.  But I see that the waiting list has over 200 items, some of them over 12 months old.  Is it a realistic proposition that my package would ever get into debian?
16:34.47joepublicjmd, you chances would probably better if you were the package maintainer.  To be one, ask one.
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16:36.28jmdjoepublic: I don't think it makes any difference, since all packages have to be approved by the webmasters.
16:36.39joepublicshynoob, no reason not to install it within virtualbox and see what happens.  Other than your time.
16:36.52joepublicjmd, glad you got it sorted and don't need more information.  Good successful talk.
16:36.57shynoobjoepublic, the game works on wine.. perfectly..
16:37.17shynoobjoepublic,  its just the platform gameranger.. has problems on debian ..
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16:37.45pistacheshynoob: do you have an additional GPU that you could dedicate to a VM ?
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16:37.50joepublicshynoob, and it probably runs fine on some other operating system that would run in virtualbox.  got it.  why not try it out?  virtualbox does emulate 3d graphics.
16:37.52shynoobno pistache
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16:38.15shynoobalrigth joepublic .. just saw virtual box isnt in the repo
16:38.22shynoob,v virtualbox
16:38.23juddPackage: virtualbox on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.42-dfsg-1+deb7u1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.36-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports/contrib: 5.1.8-dfsg-7~bpo8+1; stretch-backports/contrib: 5.2.18-dfsg-2~bpo9+1; buster/contrib: 5.2.22-dfsg-1; sid/contrib: 5.2.22-dfsg-1
16:38.33shynooboh
16:38.59jakew_I just upgraded from 8 to 9. Now I have an ugly red disk space notification in the upper right hand corner of my gnome-shell screen that WILL NOT GO AWAY! HELP!
16:39.16joepublicsome parts of virtualbox are nonfree.  since you are running a nonfree game I bet that's not an objection for you, so know that you might need contrib/non-free.
16:40.10jakew_https://pasteboard.co/HMHe1xX.png
16:40.27Epakaijmd: what are you referring to as a waiting list? if someone is willing to do the packaging work and seek a sponsor there shouldn't be much difficulty getting it into debian (barring license incompatibility, etc.)
16:41.30joepublicjakew_, not to put too fine a point on it, but it looks like to make that go away you would want to delete some things that are unnecessary.
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16:44.22jellyjmd: wnpp / rfp reports are not a waiting list and are not really handled in order of arrival.  If you choose to try being your own debian package maintainer, look at
16:44.26jelly!mentors
16:44.26dpkgmentors is probably the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive.  Ask me about <nmg>.  http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/  http://mentors.debian.net/  #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net).
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16:44.57jelly!nmg
16:44.57dpkgThe packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging.  You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other.  Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>.  http://www.debian.org/devel/
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16:45.25joepublicdf |egrep '(Mounted|home)' will tell you how much space in total, how much is used, and how much is free of your /home
16:45.47shynoobits alright.. joepublic
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16:49.30shynoobIs windows XP better or windows 7 or windows 10?
16:49.43dvsWhy are you asking here?
16:49.43shynoobthe game runs on all ..tho
16:49.48shynooboh lol
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16:50.10shynoobif anyone would have experience running windows on debian
16:50.14shynoobusing vbox
16:50.18dvsah
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16:53.31petn-randallshynoob: Try asking a specific question. Asking if anyone has experience running Windows VM is useless, as there are probably quite a few people, but they can't help you unless you ask a specific question.
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16:54.33jmdNo wonder he's a shy noob if that's the response he gets!
16:54.38shynoobpetn-randall, I want to run .. most probably play a game from within debian's vbox.. would it be wise to install windows XP or windows 10.. the game runs on both tho..
16:54.40jakew_joepublic: I am very much aware of how to manage space on my drives. I am asking how to make a notification go away, apparently there's no way to do this in the gnome-shell 3.22 (included with stretch) and the thing has been sitting there for 23 minutes.
16:55.15jakew_clicks on the notification affect whatever's behind it. gnome notification setting has no effect.
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16:55.31dvspetn-randall, I'm guessing shynoob hasn't started the install and is just asking for advice.
16:55.32apollo13jakew_: that sounds like a special program, not something from a debian standard install
16:55.48apollo13jakew_: it is also not in the style of any normal gnome notification
16:55.49shynoobdvs what install?
16:56.02dvsshynoob, Install Windows into vbox
16:56.14petn-randallshynoob: I'd go with a supported OS if you plan on multiplayer. XP has been out of support for several years now. But whatever floats your boat, really.
16:56.15shynoobyeah but which :P
16:56.24jakew_apollo13: hmm. did you see the image? I know, but it's like the same notification that I was getting in jessie, but it's un-themed or something.
16:56.25shynoobohh
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16:56.37jakew_All other notifications also have this theme, just some of them seem to disappear when they're supposed to.
16:56.47jakew_Anyone have any idea about troubleshooting notification theme?
16:56.49apollo13jakew_: that sounds rather weird
16:57.02jakew_apollo13: well it is definitely weird.
16:57.22apollo13jakew_: this is how notification ins gnome look like: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/choose-gnome-notifications-appear
16:57.26apollo13did you try with a new user?
16:57.29joepublicjakew_, Okay, I understand better now.  My advice didn't address the issue of what-the-hecks-up-with-that-persistent-box.
16:58.13jakew_apollo13: joepublic: check this out: https://pasteboard.co/HMHliFp.png
16:58.36jakew_(the blue notification went away as soon as I changed window focus)
16:58.44jakew_the red one is still there. weird.
16:59.00apollo13jakew_: if you click on the clock in the middle of the screen, do you see the notificatoins there too then?
16:59.09apollo13those there usually also have an (x) to dismiss
16:59.30jakew_Interesting. Well, yes, but they're different notifications.
16:59.33apollo13like this https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/03/new-app-brings-android-notifications-to-the-gnome-desktop
16:59.34joepublicjust guessing-not from knowledge-but, is the red one still there because its condition is still true and it has some sort of monomanicial bent on staying until its threshold is satisfied?  That could be a difference between the one(s) that went away and that red one.
16:59.54apollo13jakew_: If I had to guess I'd say you have another notification daemon running which does weird things
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17:00.08jakew_joepublic: Yeah, but those would just appear at the bottom and go away in 8.
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17:00.38apollo13maybe a ps will point out weird apps
17:00.51jakew_joepublic: apollo13: here's the one from the clock area: https://pasteboard.co/HMHml2G.png
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17:01.05apollo13yeah that one looks like it should be
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17:01.22jakew_NNNNN ?        Sl     0:01 gnome-control-center notifications
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17:03.00apollo13I personally do not think that is gnome doing, but who knows
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17:14.47jhutchinsJust upgraded to stretch.  xfce won't let me browse for an image to set as wallpaper.  It gives me an abbreviated list of folders, and will only let me click on image files.  Subfolders are geryed out.
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17:24.24RoyKjhutchins: some UIDs changed or something?
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17:33.11jhutchinsRoyK: Don't know why a UID would change.  I can browse the filesystem just fine with thunar, it's whatever provides file selection for desktop properties.
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17:33.47SerajewelKSjhutchins: interestingly i recall having the same problem on jessie.  never figured out what caused it.
17:33.48RoyKjhutchins: sorry - I don't know
17:34.04SerajewelKSi just found where the wallpaper config is stored and changed the path by hand
17:34.44joepublicOnce in a while you hear something and you say to yourself "Huh.  I bet that's why GNU/Linux isn't more mainstream."
17:35.05SerajewelKSi encounter something like that almost every day :)
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17:35.26jhutchinsjoepublic: Which assumes you think Linux isn't mainstream (which means you haven't been in a datacenter in decades).
17:35.27SerajewelKSbut i know what i'm doing so i can usually hack around it.  yeah, the people who don't know their way around the linux command line will sooner or later have such a problem.
17:35.40jhutchinsIt also assumes you care whether idiots try to use linux.
17:36.14SerajewelKSTBH though, they run into more mysterious problems on other OSes that i can't help with.  the problems the casual user encounters on linux are more frequent but are also more easily solved, in my experience.
17:36.20joepublicjhutchins, your emotional asshole-ish response indicates that you certainly seem to care.  I was just making an idle observation.  I use what works for me, and encourage others to do the same.
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17:39.08jhutchinsjoepublic: There are people who shouldn't try to use linux.  They're not prepared or willing to understand the processes involved.  They should use an OS that does it's best to hide those processes.  Linux shouldn't do that.
17:39.34joepublicPerhaps you should let the android folks know.
17:39.46jhutchinsThey know.
17:40.13pistachejhutchins: Linux is not an OS
17:40.40jhutchinspistache: This is not a pipe.
17:41.43pistacheit makes your statement look very different if you correct it
17:41.49jhutchinstask-xfce-desktio installed a font package and vlc.
17:42.11pistache"[...] Linux-based operating systems shouldn't do that." well why shouldn't they ?
17:42.47jhutchinspistache: The point of linux is that it gives you the freedom to completely control the processes behind the work you do with it.
17:42.47joepublicpistache, j.h. started out by saying I haven't been in a datacenter.  you have an enormous knowledge and perception deficit to overcome in your quest here.  Good luck my friend.
17:42.55pistacheas another said some already do (android and many others)
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17:44.24pistacheanyway, "the point of linux" may not be very on-topic (or even interesting)
17:44.49jmdIt's always highly subjective.
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17:45.42jmdIf you read what Tovalds says, his motivation seems to be very different from that of most people who use GNU/Linux.
17:46.35pistachejoepublic: having been in a datacenter is also an interestingly inadapted criteria for competence too..
17:46.44shynooblinux kernel is free and open-source .. thats the selling point.. ;)
17:47.30pistacheis there any recommended way for scripts to store secret values in temporary files ?
17:47.38pistacheother than "not doing it"
17:47.59joepublicperhaps, but saying "since you disagree, you have obviously not been in a datacenter" is more indicative of the learning curve you're working against, than the qualifications that, say, a janitor would need to enter a datacenter.
17:48.00pistacheI cannot find how to give a password to "nm cli con up" other than "passwd-file"
17:48.46pistachejoepublic: for sure
17:49.06pistacheso given that I have to use a password file (and that it doesn't work with stdin)
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17:49.32pistacheit's better to store it in /dev/shm, right ? or is it reasonable to assume that /tmp will always be a tmpfs (say, on debian) ?
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17:50.04pistacheor should I store it anywhere, and use 'wipe' to clear it afterwards ?
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17:51.44jhutchinsMy point about the datacenter is the prevalence of linux in commercial computing environments.
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17:52.46jhutchinsIs there a way to search for packages that are backported?  Like "xfce*"?
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17:54.48jhutchinsI guess I can do it in synaptic.  Nothing useful found.
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17:56.01bitespistache: bash process substitution maybe instead of a real file.
17:56.50pistachebites: wouldn't that only work if the password can be given in the command-line ?
17:57.10pistacheas far as I can tell, the passwd-file option of nmcli requires a real file
17:57.54bitestry it and see.
17:59.22jhutchinsHm, the selection dropdown is labeled "folder", like it's set to change backgrounds, though it isn't.
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18:02.25pistachebites: awesome, it does work !
18:02.50bitesyay :)
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18:03.24pistacheI'll need to do a bit of reading on why it works with process substitution, but didn't work when passing /dev/stdin as password-file
18:03.34pistachethanks a lot
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18:23.07sami4akhelp install icecast
18:23.26jhutchinsI don't see alsa on stretch.
18:23.35jhutchinsDidn't see that in the release notes.
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18:48.50frikinzaphorise: which kernel are these using? yesterday I told you to try a more recent kernel (backport has 4.18). Did you try debian testing?
18:49.58frikinzaphorise: or that https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel
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18:51.06frikinzYou need to confirm that a recent debian kernel does work first.
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19:09.31aphorisefrikinz I tried several testings including livecd net install also went back to 2.5 as well... so far this is working for me: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sparky & https://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mx
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19:10.25aphoriseSorry Debian 9.5 I mean
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19:11.38aphorise9.5 + 9.6 releseas current -1 as well including testing - nothing is working which is suprising as I dont get what these other folks have based their releases on.
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19:15.50petn-randallaphorise: Did you use the netinstaller *with* firmware?
19:17.15aphorisepetn-randall yes I tried that too the 400 odd iso
19:17.19aphorise400 odd meg*
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19:24.30petn-randallaphorise: All the others don't contain firmware, so they shouldn't work.
19:25.05Devastatorhow do I check a maintainer of a package? packages.debian.org?
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19:26.20petn-randallDevastator: Yes, you already answered your own question.
19:26.38Unit193Devastator: Can check the pts, that, or apt-cache showsrc (though if on stable, may be out of date.)
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19:27.39onionBack in my day, we would keep our eyes open all day for a honey bee swarm. A swarm is when a nest of bees gets so large that part of the population leaves with a new queen to form a new colony.If you saw a swarm on a tree branch you could cut the branch and literally shake them off into a box so you could later have your own bee hive. But I always shook mine off into a crudley constructed wooden dildo and shove it up my ass.
19:27.39onionThat's what that vibrator reminds me of, simpler times.
19:27.49onionBack in my day, we would keep our eyes open all day for a honey bee swarm. A swarm is when a nest of bees gets so large that part of the population leaves with a new queen to form a new colony.If you saw a swarm on a tree branch you could cut the branch and literally shake them off into a box so you could later have your own bee hive. But I always shook mine off into a crudley constructed wooden dildo and shove it up my ass.
19:27.49onionThat's what that vibrator reminds me of, simpler times.
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19:32.11algun_hey i need to run a fsck but cant log in as root; its disallowed even in recovery mode. What would be the recommended course of action?
19:32.31SerajewelKSalgun_: why is it "disallowed in recovery mode"
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19:33.55algun_it is disallowed in general to log in as root(only sudo is allowed) and i guess recovery mode respects that for some reason
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19:34.32RoyKalgun_: ssh or console?
19:34.40algun_console
19:35.02Devastatorpetn-randall Unit193, thank you both, it seems the maintainer is Antonio Gonzales Iniesta, do you know if he uses IRC by any chance?
19:35.06RoyKnormally root login on console is allowed
19:35.19ukinealgun_, try looking up the grub line to su in
19:35.24algun_ideally i would allow root only for physical access in recovery mode
19:36.20SerajewelKSalgun_: ah, you mean recovery mode in grub.  yes, you still need the root password.  an alternative is to boot from the installer CD and use its recovery mode.
19:36.23RoyKalgun_: if you have changed the config to disallow root login on the console, I guess a rescue CD will be a way to start
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19:36.29SerajewelKSrescue mode, rather
19:36.35algun_assumin  that is what the system drops to when the disk is giving it problems (but i have tried actually booting recovery too)
19:36.44RoyKCD/USB/something
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19:37.25algun_i can lo  in to the normal system as myself and sudo
19:37.32RoyKrecovery also uses PAM, last I checked, so if you have disabled root login on the console, use another boot medium
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19:37.59SerajewelKSalgun_: a greater problem you will face is that you can't fsck a volume that's mounted.  so you probably need to boot from other media anyway.
19:38.08ukine^
19:38.09SerajewelKSyou won't be able to fsck / from within the system while it's mounted read-write
19:38.14algun_a pam.conf i was able to locate wa  empty just comment
19:38.17algun_s
19:38.23onionBack in my day, we would keep our eyes open all day for a honey bee swarm. A swarm is when a nest of bees gets so large that part of the population leaves with a new queen to form a new colony.If you saw a swarm on a tree branch you could cut the branch and literally shake them off into a box so you could later have your own bee hive. But I always shook mine off into a crudley constructed wooden dildo and shove it up my ass.
19:38.23onionThat's what that vibrator reminds me of, simpler times.
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19:38.35SerajewelKS!ops onion
19:38.35dpkgHydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: serajewelks complains about a problem (see above)
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19:39.10algun_sejawelks i think i can unmout root while in recovery
19:39.19algun_can  i?
19:39.24SerajewelKSalgun_: you cannot.  you may be able to remount it read-only.
19:39.51SerajewelKSthough, in my experience, systemd in particular makes recovery mode barely useful since it holds so much stuff open you can't remount ro without stopping a bunch of crap
19:39.56SerajewelKS(maybe that's fixed now)
19:40.06algun_a recovery medium is a drag is there no more convenient solution?
19:40.10algun_oh btw
19:40.13SerajewelKSin this situation it's much easier to just boot from alternative media
19:40.31algun_i didnt mak  roots shell nologin so im not sure where its blocked
19:41.50SerajewelKSbad password... wrong keyboard layout... who knows
19:41.55algun_serjawelks it is a ridiculous situation that i cannot log in to recover a failed bootup
19:42.17algun_no i think it says the root login is blocked
19:42.20SerajewelKSi mean... maybe?  if the boot is failing why do you even trust the system.
19:42.26algun_i can fin  out the exact message
19:42.37SerajewelKSif i have a problem booting i have the installer CD nearby because it's the much easier way in
19:43.18SerajewelKStrying to fix a broken system from within itself can be unsafe.  e.g. if the filesystem is damaged, how do you know that fsck isn't corrupted?
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19:43.24algun_it is a good driveits just that it is very old  and needs a scrub from time to time;)
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19:43.38SerajewelKSthat doesn't sound like a good drive to me :)
19:43.53algun_idk actually what the caus  is. but basic drive stats say it is healthy
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19:46.22algun_my sytem fails to lock (sleep? hybernate). maybe after such an event using it leads to a crash that requires a fsck which i cant do an  then crashing continues when using the system (in graphics mode) until i manage to fsck
19:46.47algun_ill get a cd
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19:49.11sjmulderusing Debian 9,6 with XFCE, I can never log in when my screen locks. it appears the password is not accepted
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19:51.12Unit193sjmulder: Using light-locker, xscreensaver, or something else?
19:52.17onionBack in my day, we would keep our eyes open all day for a honey bee swarm. A swarm is when a nest of bees gets so large that part of the population leaves with a new queen to form a new colony.If you saw a swarm on a tree branch you could cut the branch and literally shake them off into a box so you could later have your own bee hive. But I always shook mine off into a crudley constructed wooden dildo and shove it up my ass.
19:52.18onionThat's what that vibrator reminds me of, simpler times.
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19:53.36LtLbaba_: thank you
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19:53.50revmooguys I'm in an odd spot, I have a poweredge that needs a network driver to function, which I have, on a thumbdrive , but you need apt to install nonfree exfat support....
19:53.55LtLbaba_: sorry, babilen thanks
19:53.58revmooso how am I supposed to get these nic drivers onto this box?
19:54.00sjmulder@Unit193, how do I find out? I went with the defaults mostly
19:54.16SerajewelKSrevmoo: use vfat instead of exfat
19:54.33Unit193sjmulder: So it'll likely be light-locker.  Presumably it's dumping you back to the login greeter to unlock?
19:54.35revmoook... sec!
19:54.54sjmulderUnit193, yeah, it looks exactly like the usual login screen. My username is prefilled.
19:55.46Unit193sjmulder: It should tell you like always if your password is wrong, you *can* check TTY7 to see if your session is there, but eh.  Is there a specific error?
19:56.18sjmulderUnit193, the TTYs all show me regular login prompts, and I can log in fine there
19:56.36SerajewelKSrevmoo: vfat is more limited but is, at this point, about the most widely-supported filesystem on the planet
19:57.16sjmulderUnit193, and I don't think it gives me an error, instead it just resets (clearing the password field)
19:57.21revmooand I guess vfat is an open format vs proprietary?
19:58.16Unit193sjmulder: OK, that shouldn't be an issue in light-locker at least (I don't use it, I still prefer xscreensaver due to issues with light-locker.)
19:58.22SerajewelKSrevmoo: i don't believe it's open
19:59.18SerajewelKSrevmoo: there's some patents that may cover it.  i know it has a somewhat troubled legal history.
19:59.41revmoointeresting
19:59.42SerajewelKSbut linux does not appear to have been involved in any trouble over it.  if you don't like vfat you could always use ext
19:59.48SerajewelKShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#Patents
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20:01.16revmoough software patents are terrible
20:01.48SerajewelKSagreed
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20:02.04SerajewelKSif you're only using this drive on unix systems though, you can just format it ext2
20:02.25revmoodon't care what happens to this thing I just need to xfer the one NIC card driver .deb
20:03.20revmooFormatted fat on win10, copied deb, tried to mount: "bogus number of reserved sectors"
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20:03.41revmooseems like the sort of error you'd see when mounting the wrong version of an fs
20:03.43SerajewelKScan you mkfs.vfat from linux instead?
20:03.48revmooI definitely did not format it ntfs
20:03.56revmoogreat idea!
20:04.14SerajewelKScan even format it on the server you're copying to
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20:05.44revmoothat's what I'm up to right now
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20:07.43SerajewelKSrevmoo: google suggests that error means you were trying to mount the device instead of the partition, or a partition instead of the device
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20:10.17Peyamhi
20:10.24Peyamwhat is the current version of eclipse?
20:10.26Peyamin debian repo
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20:10.55Peyamanyone?
20:11.32Peyamit is so old. 3,8?
20:11.36Peyammy god
20:11.36SerajewelKS,v eclipse
20:11.37juddPackage: eclipse on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.8.0~rc4-1; jessie: 3.8.1-7; sid: 3.8.1-8; stretch: 3.8.1-10; sid: 3.8.1-11
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20:13.12Peyamthank you SerajewelKS I was look for that ,v comemnt
20:13.13Peyam:D
20:13.26SerajewelKSthere's also packages.debian.org
20:13.33revmoomount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb fails with bogus number of reserved sectors blah blah
20:13.40Peyamyeah. that wqhat I tried
20:14.06SerajewelKSrevmoo: right after mkfs?
20:14.43SerajewelKSrevmoo: what's "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" say?
20:15.39revmoodon't have the option for fat but I do for ntfs so now I'm trying to format it with mkfs.ntfs  but its dead slow
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20:15.55revmooannoying, ubuntu HAS this driver, I just wanted debian for other softwares
20:15.56SerajewelKSrevmoo: you should have mkfs.vfat
20:16.02revmooI don't
20:16.11revmoothis is an open media server build or whatever
20:16.14revmoothis really my fault
20:16.21SerajewelKSoh that's an optional package
20:16.31SerajewelKSformatting on windows should work though...
20:16.33revmooI had the same issue with vanilla debian the other day and jumped into ubuntu and everything worked
20:16.46revmooyeah format on windows doesn't seem to work
20:16.48revmooidks
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20:19.12revmooat this rate formatting this usb disk mkfs.ntfs will take over an hour
20:19.26SerajewelKSwait how the hell do you have ntfsprogs but not mkfs.vfat
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20:19.50revmooit's this chopped up distro I probably shouldn't even ask questions in #debian
20:20.44SerajewelKSchopped up distro?
20:20.53revmooopen media server, it's debian derived
20:21.05revmoo*open media vault
20:21.16SerajewelKSah.  that's probably why you're missing basic stuff then.
20:21.28SerajewelKSwho knows what they decided to omit for the sake of saving some disk space
20:21.36revmooyep
20:22.30siwicaI want to setup a private Debian package repository for the company I am working at and have two questions: 1. What protocols are supported by apt? HTTP/FTP/...?  2. What are the most common programs that support this? I'd prefer a rather simple one and don't want to spend too much time gettting familiar with one being too complex.
20:23.20SerajewelKSsiwica: http is what's most widely used and is easy to set up on any http server.  nginx, apache, etc.
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20:26.32siwicaSerajewelKS: Is it also possible to have all packages within a git repository and only use the Git-protocol or SSH?
20:26.38Peyamhow do I run a .bin file in linuzx?
20:26.51Peyamisn't it chmd +x ...bin?
20:26.57siwicaI was told a solution that does not require setting up a webserver would be preferred.
20:27.33revmoook the final recipe was to format it NTFS on windows then copy drivers, fat didn't work...
20:27.43revmoothanks for the debugging hints
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20:31.38PeyamI wasy just typing wrong
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20:34.40SerajewelKSsiwica: not to my knowledge
20:35.02SerajewelKS!ops me`
20:35.02dpkgHydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: serajewelks complains about a problem (see above)
20:35.05me`ALLA HU AKBAR
20:36.26Unit193me`: Please quit that.
20:36.38me`STOP THAT UNIT193
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20:38.22siwicaSerajewelKS: Just checked `man 5 sources.list`. It seems SSH is also supported by default and additional packages exist for: https, s3 (aws), spacewalk, tor, debtorrent
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20:42.23siwicaDoes anybody know if the list for `Debian Repository Generation Tools` under https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Setup#Debian_Repository_Generation_Tools is still up to date?
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20:45.09storrgieIs there a list of preeseed urls? I'm trying to use netboot.xyz to do an install
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20:46.11Unit193siwica: Seems to have the most common ones, at least.
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20:56.30siwicaUnit193: Could you recommend one of those? I only want to publish self-made packages so I probably would only need a rather limited set of features.
20:57.31Unit193siwica: It depends on which specific features you want.  I'm slightly biased though so might not be the best to recommend something.  If you wanted only a micro repo, I'd likely push towards aptly or mini-dinstall though.
20:57.39Unit193(I of course use mini-dinstall)
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20:58.40siwicaThe repository is going to hosted on a Gentoo server. So I would prefer something that a Gentoo ebuild exists for.
20:59.27Unit193I'm not aware as to what is and isn't in Gentoo.
20:59.29siwicaI guess I will try both aptly and mini-dinstall on my Ubuntu machine for now.
21:00.34Unit193If you can, I'd recommend 0.6.31 of mini-dinstall.
21:01.15siwicaOk, just installed that!
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21:01.34Unit193If you need gpg2 support for the wrapper, I have a commit for that.
21:02.32siwicaOk, I'll have a look.
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21:08.08SerajewelKSsiwica: if you don't need the authentication features of ssh then ssh is worthless overhead and http will perform better, and be less complicated
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21:09.46guerby,kernel
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21:09.49juddwheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-6-686-pae (3.2.102-1)
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21:17.21rantis there a way I can start a seperate instance of chromium? the --temp-profile doesnt have any of my extensions, and just opening another window makes any extensions I have in the other window effect both.. I'd like to if possible simply run two seperate instances with all my extensions but have different settings in each one like one
21:17.42siwicaSerajewelKS: I need the authentication features and since an ssh deamon is running anyways the setup will be easier as well I guess.
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21:18.47siwicaThe packages sizes are going to be rather small and the repository will only serve a rather limited amount of people
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21:21.41Unit193siwica: Properly gpg validated isn't too hard, but if everyone already has ssh access then perhaps it'd be easy enough.
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22:00.29\dev\cachewhat would people in this room suggest for some form of integrity software and bitrot prevention features somewhat similar to zfs but without zfs?
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22:24.36Epakai\dev\cache: something like https://github.com/arberg/md5recurse or btrfs has builtin checksum features. maybe some intrusion detection tools in debian could be adapted, but most of those focus on binary/system/package files being modified
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22:27.51watchcattripwire might be useful in that regard
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22:33.45BCMM\dev\cache: "somewhat similar to zfs but without zfs" is, like, the definition of btrfs
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22:38.26Henry151howdy #debian
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22:40.08Henry151my laptop (lenovo thinkpad p51) running debian 9 just did something strange, where the screen started flickering and turning a pink shade, but only on the lower half of the screen. I would normally assume hardware problems -- like a loose connection or something -- but wiggling the screen back and forth did nothing to resolve it, while putting the laptop to sleep and waking it up again, did resolve it.
22:40.14Henry151But then it happened again a few minutes later. I know this isn't necessarily a debian problem, but since I'm running debian, thought I'd ask here for any general ideas about what to look into.
22:41.28SerajewelKSHenry151: might depend on the video driver
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22:42.06Henry151hm
22:42.30Henry151i restarted the laptop, and it did the same thing a few minutes later. But now that i put it into sleep mode, and woke it back up, it hasn't done it again
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22:49.05jocicHey guys, how are you doing? I have one silly question regarding local APT repositories.
22:51.11jocicSo, I created a local APT repository on my machine - http://localhost/test-rep - that mimicks the official Debian repository in structure.
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22:54.39jocicI can use it normally by adding ex. "deb http://localhost/test-rep ./stable main" line to the sources.list file, which is all fine and dandy.
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22:59.45jocicBut is it possible to get rid of the "./" from the component without triggering a warning - W: Conflicting distribution: http:/localhost/test-rep/ stable InRelease (expected stable but got )
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23:16.22jocicNevermind, I figured it out. (:
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