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| 00:04.15 | bitess | !bat |
| 00:04.16 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 00:04.42 | bitess | ^ hemebond |
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| 00:18.02 | hemebond | bitess: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6b54247e/ |
| 00:19.39 | bitess | hemebond: when installing from jessie-backports you have to pass the -t jessie-backports argument to temporarily raise the priority. |
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| 00:20.16 | hemebond | I thought that might be the case. I was hoping there was a "just-install-whatever-you-want" flag. |
| 00:20.34 | hemebond | Cheers ð |
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| 01:02.47 | mpo | What do I do, if I have opened a bug but want to add further information after the bug was acknowledged? Is that what the bug mail address is for? Do I send further info there? |
| 01:03.52 | rant | yes you send to the number |
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| 01:04.11 | rant | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.34 | rant | amd that adds to the bug |
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| 01:05.11 | mpo | Awesome. Thank you. |
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| 05:28.29 | rhizome_ | i have a geforce gt 740 and i think nvidia-driver is causing high cpu. what could be wrong? |
| 05:29.04 | rhizome_ | is there a best version to be running? mines something like 370.something |
| 05:29.46 | rhizome_ | whoops, way off. 390.77 |
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| 06:29.25 | Joral | I have a computer with a radeon x1300 connected to my monitor and a nv760ti that I am attempting to use for opencl support. I currently have debian 9.5 running. after installing the nvidia driver it no longer boots to gui. tty7 is just a blank screen with a cursor in the upper left. any idea what I did wrong or how to fix it? |
| 06:30.51 | rhizome_ | ah ha, my card isn't supported by 390 |
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| 06:43.56 | rhizome_ | yes it is |
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| 07:01.35 | obiwahn | How do i temporarily disable suspend? |
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| 07:04.28 | Something1 | On a desktop? You can get the caffeine GNOME extension if using GNOME, other desktops have different tools. https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/517/caffeine/ |
| 07:05.21 | Something1 | obiwahn ^ |
| 07:07.15 | obiwahn | systemd-inhibit --what=handle-lid-switch sleep 1d |
| 07:07.28 | obiwahn | it seems |
| 07:07.33 | obiwahn | i use xmoand |
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| 07:29.14 | nezos | I have a pdf that doesn't have embedded fonts (Helvetica) and it displays on screen correctly. When I print it I get garbage characters. Any idea what to do? I tried printing from command line lp myfile.pdf and again garbage |
| 07:29.28 | nezos | I can print it on windows correctly |
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| 07:31.18 | nezos | and even copying it to clipboard works *shrug* |
| 07:35.58 | obiwahn | maybe try another dirver for your printer |
| 07:36.20 | obiwahn | there are often different versions in cups availalbe |
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| 07:39.04 | nezos | canon's official driver doesn't work, so I am using the generic drivers, they print correctly all other documents but this one only garbage |
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| 07:42.03 | Something1 | Can you simply add helvetica to your user fonts and remove it after if you don´t want it, nezos? |
| 07:42.56 | Something1 | Or is the problem that it is installed, but not embedded, so it won´t work? |
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| 07:45.00 | nezos | I don't have Helvetica installed, you need to buy it to install it |
| 07:45.49 | nezos | ok I did another test, I printed to PDF (cups printer) and then I printed the resulting PDF and it worked, CUPS substituted the Helvetica with a blank font Type-3 |
| 07:46.25 | Something1 | Liberation-sans is metric compatible I think, you could alias it? |
| 07:47.17 | nezos | ok I will look how I alias a font |
| 07:48.26 | alkisg | There should be an option somewhere to "download fonts" to your printer or even to "print as bitmap" |
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| 07:54.35 | Something1 | I am not too well versed with fonts and printing and all that. I think you do `~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf` and have http://paste.debian.net/1041098/ nezos |
| 07:57.15 | nezos | I don't have a fontconfig folder under .config but fonts.conf is in etc and it says not to change it:P |
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| 07:58.02 | Something1 | You can create it! mkdir -p ~/.config/fontconfig |
| 07:59.19 | nezos | ok thanks Something1 I will try your suggestion as well, now I have to wait for 2-3 hours cause I overwrote the problematic file and I need to wait for the system to generate a new one:P |
| 07:59.36 | Something1 | Yikes! |
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| 07:59.57 | Something1 | Agile printing |
| 08:00.33 | nezos | at least I printed the pdf->cups printed version:P |
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| 08:02.09 | Something1 | That´s true. At least you can make mistakes now |
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| 08:19.10 | dionysus69 | so I have an HDMI cable connected to the monitor and monitor has an audio out jack, but the audio isn't available, how do I troubleshoot that :S ? |
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| 08:29.57 | blackflow | dionysus69: are you using hdmi as device to output audio on? I mean, is it configured to be used as the active device by pulseaudio |
| 08:30.22 | dionysus69 | ohh |
| 08:30.43 | dionysus69 | blackflow: I forgot even though I switch that daily on my laptop :D |
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| 08:31.24 | dionysus69 | but I actually didn't forget, I just realized that it doesn't give me an option to switch |
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| 08:32.43 | saulus | Hi, for systemd I have written /lib/systemd/system/vncserver@.service and experience that changes to that file are only recognized after a full reboot of the machine. How can I make systemd recognize changes without rebooting? |
| 08:32.55 | blackflow | dionysus69: but is it listed, does PA see it as audio device? if not, then I suppose something something drivers. |
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| 08:33.18 | blackflow | saulus: systemctl daemon-reload after any change to service units? |
| 08:33.53 | dionysus69 | blackflow: no it doesn't I guess I ll tinker with the audio drivers (headshot suicide) :D |
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| 08:34.51 | blackflow | dionysus69: yeah sorry can't help with that, never had to fiddle with HDMI. |
| 08:36.30 | blackflow | dionysus69: otoh, does lsmod | grep hda_codec_hdmi show a result? |
| 08:38.00 | saulus | blackflow: I already do that. Here is my command line and the status: https://gist.github.com/codingdave/7d5217be9062d597d19155fc906d7103 and this is my service file: https://gist.github.com/codingdave/8aef62d1d316ff0fa245cc91e219519f |
| 08:38.30 | saulus | blackflow: you see that neither the - in the ExecStartPre is shown nor the second ExecStartPre=echo file updated |
| 08:39.08 | blackflow | saulus: no idea then. |
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| 08:42.38 | saulus | ok, ty blackflow |
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| 08:44.46 | alibert414141 | hello, i have a strange issue. i added lets encrypt certificates and ran dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates and now root see's a valid cert when using openssl s_client connect, but a regular user does not. i mean how the h.. can this be? |
| 08:45.03 | alibert414141 | (and how do i resolve this issue) |
| 08:45.46 | Something1 | saulus, systemctl restart vncblah? |
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| 08:48.10 | blackflow | alibert414141: "added lets encrypt"? where and how? and what does it have to do with ca-certificates? |
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| 08:50.56 | saulus | Something1: I already do sudo systemctl restart vncserver@:1.service |
| 08:51.22 | saulus | Something1: directly thereafter I call status and dont see the change |
| 08:51.50 | Something1 | What about disable, enable, restart? |
| 08:52.20 | saulus | also part of my command line |
| 08:53.43 | saulus | This is my call, but it doesnt detect file changes until I reboot the machine: daemon-reload; disable vncserver@:1.service; daemon-reload; daemon-reexec; enable vncserver@:1.service; reenable vncserver@:1.service; restart vncserver@:1.service; status vncserver@:1.service |
| 08:54.24 | Something1 | odd odd |
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| 09:09.11 | blackflow | saulus: you wouldn't happen to have an override for the service under /etc/systemd/system/? I just noticed you said you wrote the template under /lib . Unless you're doing that through a package, I'd say it's really not recommended to write or change anything there, but use /etc |
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| 09:12.15 | dionysus69 | blackflow: yes there's some output, about 4 lines, Its on different pc so I cant paste it here |
| 09:13.41 | blackflow | dionysus69: so that's a start, meaning the hdmi snd driver is there. next check what alsa sees/does about that. this is the part I've never had to fiddle with hdmi, so I don't know what would be needed to enable if, if it requires enabling. |
| 09:14.06 | dionysus69 | ok thanks lots :) will try something :) |
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| 09:15.26 | saulus | blackflow: I have moved the service to /etx/systemd/system/vncserver@.service but still have the same experience |
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| 09:17.03 | saulus | blackflow: got it. The trick was to first stop the service. Then do the rest. |
| 09:17.52 | blackflow | saulus: ah... |
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| 09:18.19 | blackflow | saulus: though I'm not sure there's that order necessary, perhaps you just need to _stop_ (as opposed to _restart_) it at some point after daemon-reload |
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| 09:20.11 | saulus | blackflow: maybe. But I will keep this for now as I have it working now and can focus on my real matter :-) Thank you |
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| 09:27.02 | axgb | My computer won't boot. I updated linux (as in the kernel) recently, but I did not restart the laptop as it says to, but rather left it until the battery ran out. When I tried to start it earlier, various error messages appeared and it said that it went into emergency mode. What do I do? |
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| 09:29.54 | Wulf | axgb: what error messages? |
| 09:30.56 | axgb | It first says that it failed to start USB, then it says it has gone into emergency mode |
| 09:31.17 | Wulf | that sounds unlikely |
| 09:31.31 | Wulf | axgb: can you share a photo? |
| 09:31.41 | BCMM | axgb: did it cleanly shut down on low battery? or did it just run flat and crash out? |
| 09:31.57 | axgb | I think the latter |
| 09:32.04 | Wulf | BCMM: shouldn't matter |
| 09:32.22 | axgb | where can I put a photo? |
| 09:32.30 | BCMM | Wulf: it matters if the new kernel isn't properly flushed to disk yet! |
| 09:32.50 | Wulf | axgb: on your webspace? |
| 09:33.12 | BCMM | sync is probably a better word there |
| 09:33.13 | Wulf | axgb: or imgur. Provide the link to the actual image, not the html page. |
| 09:33.28 | dka | I have done this tutorial: https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Debian_9&p=openldap&f=3 |
| 09:33.44 | dka | I want to connect using my ldap account but I can do it only from the account created on debian install |
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| 09:39.22 | axgb | https://www.ebayphotogallery.com/zdjecia2/galeria/10420439/1/ |
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| 09:41.09 | axgb | Here is direct link to the image |
| 09:41.10 | axgb | https://www.ebayphotogallery.com/zdjecia/z1042/10420439/big/1.jpg |
| 09:41.11 | Something1 | Can you select the old kernel during boot, axgb? |
| 09:41.26 | axgb | No |
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| 09:42.09 | axgb | I have tried each of the options for booting debian and all give the error message as in that picture |
| 09:45.32 | axgb | I've tried to boot a live USB boot repair program, but it says that it says it will only work if it is booted using efi boot, but I cannot get the bios to do efi boot |
| 09:45.41 | axgb | I can't determine if the memory stick is faulty or something |
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| 09:48.36 | dutchfish | axgb, did you somehow edit /etc/fstab at any given time, recently? |
| 09:48.43 | axgb | No |
| 09:48.56 | axgb | I need to go now |
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| 09:49.13 | dutchfish | axgb, so, only installed a new kernel or updated some more? |
| 09:49.24 | dutchfish | axgb, ok |
| 09:50.08 | blackflow | axgb: there's a clue: Failed to start Raise network interfaces |
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| 09:50.44 | dutchfish | blackflow, that might be due, failing to access the root partition, some kernels try a net boot then |
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| 09:51.27 | dutchfish | blackflow, and fail of having no build in driver |
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| 09:56.48 | blackflow | dutchfish: if root partition was failing, wouldn't the other services also be affected? or are you referring to some partial corruption something? I'm more willing to bet taht the kernel update borked something wrt network drivers or config |
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| 09:57.40 | blackflow | if that failed network service is the reason for this anyway. Network target was reached tho' |
| 09:58.14 | dutchfish | blackflow, could be, we have not enough info (yet) what really is happening. My best bet is, booting into recovery mode and work from there to diagnose. |
| 09:58.41 | dutchfish | blackflow, the boot partition apperently is working |
| 09:59.34 | blackflow | "root account is locked".... yeah... why do people do that... |
| 09:59.47 | dutchfish | blackflow, mm... maybe intramfs update hosed something; that is more likely |
| 09:59.57 | dutchfish | (on kernel update) |
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| 10:01.05 | dutchfish | blackflow, root account locked can also be due because of the system not being able to open a shell (access /bin/sh) |
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| 10:01.44 | dutchfish | just my thoughts |
| 10:02.40 | blackflow | I think the error would be different then. "root account is locked" is very specific to it being.... locked. like, ! instead of password in /etc/shadow |
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| 10:03.45 | dutchfish | blackflow, it is all still guessing for now .... |
| 10:05.03 | blackflow | void9: please no pm, if you have trouble posting to the chan, ask the ops |
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| 10:35.01 | dka | I am configuring ldap auth for my debian auth. I can login using an ldap user after following this tutorial : https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Debian_9&p=openldap&f=3 |
| 10:35.12 | dka | I am not able to login if the user does not have a /home directory yet |
| 10:35.50 | dka | I have added session optional pam_mkhomedir.so skel=/etc/skel umask=077 in my /etc/pam.d/common-session |
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| 10:50.13 | disc | hi |
| 10:50.29 | disc | i have an ec2 instance running stretch |
| 10:50.50 | disc | and for some reason i get messed up results from fdisk |
| 10:50.53 | disc | http://paste.debian.net/1041116/ |
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| 11:17.38 | Tramtrist | anyone here using i3? |
| 11:17.53 | Tramtrist | tyring to get mousewheel zoom working in chrome |
| 11:18.02 | Tramtrist | ctrl+mousewheel |
| 11:18.22 | Tramtrist | right now works with ctrl+middle mousewheel button+mousewheel |
| 11:18.25 | Tramtrist | making me crazy |
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| 11:27.30 | deadrom | heya |
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| 11:33.37 | luckywho | alsa-lib_1.1.6-1.debian.tar.xz? how to install |
| 11:33.39 | alibert414141 | blackflow: "added lets encrypt" = i downloaded and added their CA and intermediate and added them to my locally trusted CAs |
| 11:37.16 | towo^work | luckywho, use apt and install what you want from debian repo by using the debian way |
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| 11:39.57 | luckywho | @towo^work, i need specific alsa-lib version 1.1.6. current version in my system is 1.1.3 |
| 11:41.47 | luckywho | https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/alsa-lib/1.1.6-1 |
| 11:42.37 | blackflow | alibert414141: why? it's already part of ca-certificates, isn't it? or are you running your own custom CA list there? |
| 11:43.49 | inch | luckywho: You need three files: .orig.tar.xz file .dsc file and the .debian.tar.xz file. |
| 11:44.39 | inch | then dpkg-source -x *dsc ; cd to_the_unpacked_directory ; dpkg-buildpackage -b |
| 11:45.09 | inch | And later dpkg -i *.deb |
| 11:45.26 | inch | apt-get build-dep alsa-lib might be useful too. |
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| 11:47.48 | Tramtrist | ha! i found it |
| 11:47.51 | Tramtrist | imwheel |
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| 11:48.55 | dina16 | i have installed debian sid a mounth a go , and it's very very stable thnk's you debian |
| 11:49.22 | petn-randall | dina16: It might break every 6 months or so, good luck! :) |
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| 11:50.16 | deadrom | can linux in general and deb9 in particular handly displayport splitters? not repeat-same-picture-on-2nd-monitor but Mulitple Stream Transport splitters that give 2 independent monitors over one host output? |
| 11:50.24 | deadrom | *handle |
| 11:51.14 | dina16 | maybe , it's say pulseaudio 12 have bug, i don't have any issue with it :) |
| 11:52.16 | blackflow | dina16: one month is not enough to build the full picture of its stability. not trying to discourage you, just lower your expectations and be prepared ;) |
| 11:53.03 | dina16 | ok, if i have a bug i come to you ;) |
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| 11:53.50 | blackflow | dina16: actually, I think OFTC is the place for debian-next |
| 11:53.52 | petn-randall | !debian-next |
| 11:53.52 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 11:54.00 | blackflow | yeah, that. |
| 11:54.03 | petn-randall | dina16: This is the testing/sid support channel. ^^^ |
| 11:54.20 | petn-randall | In case you hit any bugs you'll get help a lot quicker over there. |
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| 11:55.34 | inch | deadrom: I have once tried one displayport splitter on deb9 with one nvidia card with the propritary drivers and it worked. |
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| 11:58.30 | inch | Monitors appeared as something like DP-1.0.1.2 and DP-1.0.1.1 on xrandr. |
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| 12:08.12 | deadrom | inch: thanks, at least I start off with one success story heard :) |
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| 12:10.55 | dionysus69 | ok so I fixed the resolution of the display by upgrading to the backports kernel, I have intel i7-8700 and the graphics is laggy |
| 12:11.16 | dionysus69 | I checked in KDE info center and 3d accelerator is set to unknown |
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| 12:13.20 | jelly | dionysus69: if you have latest generation hardware it's not weird that current Debian release is unable to fully support it. |
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| 12:14.56 | dionysus69 | jelly: I am sure I can install some backports package that will though :) |
| 12:15.58 | dionysus69 | I have 4.17.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 kernel |
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| 12:30.29 | deadrom | inch: ah, in case you want to know: the required feature is called "Multi Stream Transport" or MST and is a DP 1.2 feature which the host driver has to support. so good to know nvidia have it in their binary blob |
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| 12:34.23 | axgb | My debian installation will not boot |
| 12:35.01 | axgb | I updated linux (kernel), but failed to restart as directed, rather leaving the laptop till the laptop ran out of battery and turned off, and I think this may be the cause of the issue |
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| 12:35.39 | alibert414141 | blackflow: ... nvm. |
| 12:36.00 | awal1 | axgb, boot with the old linux |
| 12:36.00 | petn-randall | axgb: That should not cause the issue, unless you suspended while apt was still installing the packages. |
| 12:36.18 | axgb | How do I do that? There is no option within grub to do that |
| 12:36.47 | awal1 | axgb, what says "uname -a" command? |
| 12:36.58 | axgb | I don't think the computer turned off whilst it was still installing |
| 12:37.02 | axgb | The computer doesn't boot |
| 12:37.07 | axgb | into GNU/Linux |
| 12:37.22 | awal1 | stretch? |
| 12:37.24 | axgb | Yes |
| 12:38.22 | oiaohm | axgb: you do have a debian boot disc so able to use repair mode to get a shell on it? |
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| 12:38.55 | awal1 | when grub prompt select second entry advanced options is called if not wrong and there boot with old linux |
| 12:38.56 | oiaohm | axgb: I have fix by grub-install on different machines a lot. |
| 12:39.01 | sZbcE8qNfG | for a simple NAS server, is software raid good enough? |
| 12:39.06 | axgb | I'm trying to use a program called "boot repair", but I can't make it work |
| 12:39.19 | greycat | I'm wondering what "doesn't boot" actually means, and what options exist in his "Advanced options for Debian" GRUB menu, and which ones he tried. |
| 12:39.19 | awal1 | !repair grub |
| 12:39.49 | axgb | If I go into advanced options for debian, it has two options: standard and safe mode |
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| 12:40.01 | axgb | I think it was safe mode, but whatever it is, it does not boot |
| 12:40.28 | petn-randall | sZbcE8qNfG: Probably, though it depends on your requirements. |
| 12:40.55 | awal1 | !fixmbr |
| 12:40.55 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 12:41.01 | sZbcE8qNfG | i currently use a synology...it's perfect does everything and more. Goes above and beyond |
| 12:41.07 | awal1 | axgb, try ^ |
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| 12:41.17 | sZbcE8qNfG | thinking about replacing with a Debian NAS server......but that's going to require a lot of work |
| 12:41.52 | awal1 | dpkg: tell axgb about fixmbr |
| 12:41.55 | axgb | Will those instructions work with this boot repair startup disk? Or do I need to make a specifically debian one |
| 12:42.22 | awal1 | excuses |
| 12:42.33 | awal1 | not the topic i wanted |
| 12:42.34 | greycat | axgb: those instructions assume a specific problem, but as far as I know, you never actually stated WHICH problem you have. |
| 12:42.34 | oiaohm | axgb: those are debian install disc instructions the network install disc version of debian will work with those instructions. |
| 12:43.07 | greycat | axgb: what does "doesn't boot" mean? What actually happens? What do you see? |
| 12:43.36 | greycat | Clearly you see the GRUB menu, so at least we know that GRUB is installed and is executed by your firmware/BIOS. |
| 12:43.41 | axgb | GRUB appears; the option for windows works, which is how I can chat here, but if I pick the option for debian I get this: |
| 12:43.47 | oiaohm | axgb: from the debian chroot with network up in rescue moe to run apt upgrade and other apt commands to dig you out hole if there has been some package install failure. |
| 12:43.55 | axgb | https://www.ebayphotogallery.com/zdjecia2/galeria/10420439/1/ |
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| 12:45.00 | greycat | OK, so it *does* boot, but it fails to start the network interfaces, and then it wants to go to a single-user-mode console, but it can't do so because there's no root account password, because you did the "I'll leave the password blank and survive on sudo" thing. |
| 12:45.19 | axgb | Yes |
| 12:45.50 | greycat | I think ... what I would do is boot with "init=/bin/sh" and all the remounting-read-write and so on, then set a root password. |
| 12:45.55 | greycat | !i forgot root's password |
| 12:45.55 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 12:46.15 | greycat | At least then you'd be able to boot into single-user mode. |
| 12:46.40 | axgb | It's because in the past I used Ubuntu, and it never enable root account for some reason |
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| 12:47.05 | greycat | yeah, that's a thing they do |
| 12:47.35 | axgb | So I use those commands to enable root account, then I run update-grub |
| 12:48.00 | oiaohm | The reason why I go to the network install disc with debian with this problems is you don't need to know the root password that way. |
| 12:48.48 | axgb | What does it mean for it to be the network install disk rather than the standard disk? |
| 12:48.53 | greycat | axgb: grub isn't the problem. GRUB boots, and Linux boots, and Debian begins to boot. |
| 12:49.06 | greycat | Your photo shows it booting. It just fails on the network for some reason. |
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| 12:49.40 | axgb | Why would it refuse to go any further if it fails to start the network hardware? |
| 12:50.14 | greycat | I do not know. It wants you to run "systemctl status networking.service" to find out. |
| 12:51.27 | axgb | OK; I just assumed that since I had updated linux kernel and then not properly turned off the computer that doing as such must have caused it |
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| 12:55.45 | axgb | Also, it always gave that error message regarding networks, but worked fine |
| 12:56.15 | greycat | OK, maybe there's some other error before that, which wasn't visible in the photo. |
| 12:56.31 | axgb | I'll upload another photo showing the full screen |
| 12:56.31 | greycat | Setting a root password seems like a good first step, so you can diagnose further. |
| 12:58.01 | axgb | https://www.ebayphotogallery.com/zdjecia2/Galeria/10420539/1#zdj3 |
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| 12:59.25 | Brigo | axgb, i can't read in that image, What have just failed? |
| 12:59.26 | greycat | My eyes aren't good enough to read all of that, but it looks like "failed to start file system something on /dev/disk/something" |
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| 13:00.17 | greycat | and below that, something failed for /home ? |
| 13:00.21 | Brigo | greycat, your eyes are better thane mine :) |
| 13:00.33 | axgb | It says failed to start on /dev/disk/uuid/<some long code> |
| 13:01.08 | Brigo | axgb, maybe you need to fsck that. |
| 13:01.22 | greycat | So, *not* a grub problem. The file system that it wants to mount on /home (?) is not mountable, either because the device is no longer responding, or the file system needs to be checked manually, etc. |
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| 13:02.13 | greycat | Do the init=/bin/sh thing, and in addition to setting the root password, try to fsck that device. |
| 13:02.24 | axgb | what does fsck mean? |
| 13:02.44 | greycat | file system check https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/util-linux/fsck.8.en.html |
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| 13:03.38 | greycat | An unclean shutdown (which you described earlier) can cause that. |
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| 13:04.22 | axgb | So it is from unclean shutdown, but not necessarily relating to having updated kernel at the same time? |
| 13:04.31 | greycat | that's my current hypothesis, yeah |
| 13:04.55 | greycat | the kernel *appears* to be booting |
| 13:05.26 | axgb | This is a new computer I am using: the old one had a terrible battery so it would just run out of battery and shut down all the time and nothing ever happened? |
| 13:05.46 | greycat | dumb luck? |
| 13:06.04 | axgb | It had a faulty power connector, so it would be randomly shut absolutely all the time |
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| 13:07.12 | axgb | What happens once I have done fsck |
| 13:07.48 | greycat | !ifrp |
| 13:07.49 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 13:07.56 | greycat | Proceed with steps 5 and 6. |
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| 13:09.20 | axgb | Does it like fix the error or do I have to reinstall? |
| 13:10.00 | greycat | If it says it fixed the file system, then there's a good chance you're OK. |
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| 13:11.27 | axgb | Thanks for your help and advice; i'll try doing all of that but to do it I have to disconnect from here and turn off the computer |
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| 13:18.30 | kbob | hello, after a system crash (unplug power cord by mistake) I can't type as usual, it's slow and I can't type some letters. The keyboard is working properly in this PC: what can be the prob? |
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| 13:25.21 | blackflow | kbob: anything in the logs? |
| 13:27.29 | chomwitt | i cant start firefox-esr with --ProfileManager option. only with sudo. |
| 13:28.16 | kbob | blackflow: let me check.... |
| 13:28.25 | greycat | If you ran firefox with sudo, you probably screwed up permissions/ownerships on something, and now you just need to fix that. |
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| 13:28.55 | axgb | I'm failing to get anywhere with the instructions you have given me |
| 13:29.09 | axgb | I got up the grub command line, but I was not sure how to proceed |
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| 13:31.20 | dionysus69 | I tried this i915.alpha_support=1 and didn't help. I still have a problem with intel i7-8700, I have kernel from backports 4.17 version which it says everywhere online that it supports coffee lake, so why isnt my pc recognizing the video accelerator then? |
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| 13:34.10 | jelly | dionysus69: full support probably requires upgrades on all the components in the X stack, not just the kernel. So you'd probably need newer X server, newer libdrm, newer Mesa (OpenGL) |
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| 13:34.31 | dionysus69 | can I upgrade all that? |
| 13:34.47 | dionysus69 | i dont want to upgrade to buster just because of this |
| 13:34.48 | jelly | ,v libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 13:34.49 | judd | Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on amd64 -- wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 13.0.6-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 13.0.6-1+b2; stretch-backports: 17.3.9-1~bpo9+1; buster: 18.1.7-1; sid: 18.1.7-1; experimental: 18.2.0~rc4-1 |
| 13:35.05 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
| 13:35.06 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u8; jessie: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2; stretch: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u2; stretch-security: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u2; buster: 2:1.20.1-1; sid: 2:1.20.1-1 |
| 13:35.09 | greycat | It's pretty unrealistic to expect to support a machine this new on the stable Debian release. |
| 13:35.33 | dionysus69 | dunno, I have stretch on laptop and all my servers so I wanted same on my new work pc |
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| 13:35.47 | jelly | dionysus69: you can TRY and see if merely upgradeing mesa, and installing intel gpu firmware from stretch-backports as well, makes things better |
| 13:35.52 | dionysus69 | I could handle debian-testing branch as I have before but I will have extra headaches |
| 13:36.13 | dionysus69 | ok thanks so those two packages that you listed? |
| 13:36.25 | dionysus69 | or do you mean xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 13:36.30 | kbob | blackflow: there is nothing in the logs, luckily I have done the backup few ours ago so reinstall is not a problem |
| 13:36.50 | jelly | the libgl1 one is mesa, you sohuld not be using xserver-xorg-video-intel, and I don't know what the intel gpu firmware package is called |
| 13:37.01 | blackflow | kbob: don't assume reinstallation would fix this. I don't see any causality there software-wise. only hardware-wise |
| 13:37.18 | greycat | firmware-misc-nonfree |
| 13:37.32 | dionysus69 | ok thanks jelly, greycat I will post results :D |
| 13:37.35 | jelly | ,v firmware-misc-nonfree |
| 13:37.36 | judd | Package: firmware-misc-nonfree on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3; stretch-backports/non-free: 20170823-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1; sid/non-free: 20180825+dfsg-1 |
| 13:37.41 | blackflow | kbob: the only software related thing I could think of is probably unlikely in your case, eg. system being extra sluggish because something something btrfs raid broke and is now resilvering, stuff like that. |
| 13:38.13 | jelly | yeah. that firmware-* thing needs to match the kernel you're running, so if the kernel is from stretch-backports, this and any other firmware will also need to be that new |
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| 13:38.49 | jelly | and for video decoding (and encoding?) accel |
| 13:38.56 | jelly | ,v i965-va-driver |
| 13:38.57 | judd | Package: i965-va-driver on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.17-1; jessie: 1.4.1-2; jessie-backports: 1.7.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.7.3-1; buster: 2.2.0+dfsg1-1; sid: 2.2.0+dfsg1-1 |
| 13:39.13 | kbob | blackflow: ok, ext4 here and no raid anyway let me test a for some time ... |
| 13:39.13 | jelly | ... out of luck with that probably. |
| 13:39.51 | dionysus69 | like this righT? apt-get install package -b stretch-backports? |
| 13:40.08 | greycat | nope |
| 13:40.16 | dionysus69 | or -j? :D |
| 13:40.18 | dionysus69 | I dont remember |
| 13:40.22 | greycat | or re-read the backports instructions |
| 13:40.36 | blackflow | kbob: curious, how did you check the logs? I'd look into journalctl -b -p warning..emerg |
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| 13:41.59 | kbob | blackflow: grep -i error /var/log/messages |
| 13:42.17 | blackflow | kbob: yeah that's not gonna show much :) try the journalctl command above |
| 13:42.31 | kbob | ok, thanks |
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| 13:46.40 | kbob | blackflow: there is an warning but is about gpm that I think is the mouse |
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| 13:50.47 | kbob | blackflow: and another warning about lpc_ich |
| 13:52.52 | jelly | dionysus69, -t but that RTFM was appropriate, too |
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| 13:59.21 | dionysus69 | jelly, greycat: none of those packages helped |
| 13:59.36 | dionysus69 | if you have nothing else to suggest, I guess I will have to upgrade to buster |
| 14:00.05 | jelly | yeah, I half expected that |
| 14:00.37 | jelly | dionysus69: what do "xdpyinfo" and "glxinfo" and "xvinfo" and "vainfo" say right now |
| 14:00.45 | dionysus69 | ok one sek |
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| 14:01.57 | jelly | dionysus69: my rule of thumb is: for Debian, either get previous gen hw (never the latest), or hw that has been at least 12 months in the market |
| 14:02.27 | greycat | this is also good advice for budget reasons |
| 14:02.36 | zh1 | when reboot my debian hexchat puts my servlist empty, cant see reason why, any clue? |
| 14:02.51 | dionysus70 | sequence is respective http://paste.debian.net/1041150/ |
| 14:03.07 | jelly | zh1: which filesystem type are you using for $HOME (~/.config/hexchat)? |
| 14:03.30 | dionysus70 | http://paste.debian.net/1041151/ |
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| 14:03.59 | dionysus70 | this one maybe a lead vxinfo http://paste.debian.net/1041153/ |
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| 14:04.42 | dionysus70 | vainfo produced an error too http://paste.debian.net/1041155/ |
| 14:07.00 | jelly | glxinfo shows Mesa software rendering, no luck there. |
| 14:07.23 | jelly | so probably needs newer X server as well for 3D accel |
| 14:07.34 | jelly | ,v libdrm1 |
| 14:07.35 | judd | No package named 'libdrm1' was found in amd64. |
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| 14:08.08 | Brigo | zh1, have you marked reconnect? |
| 14:08.14 | jelly | ,v libdrm2 |
| 14:08.15 | judd | Package: libdrm2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.4.40-1~deb7u2; jessie: 2.4.58-2; jessie-backports: 2.4.74-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.4.74-1; stretch-backports: 2.4.91-2~bpo9+1; buster: 2.4.94-1; sid: 2.4.94-1 |
| 14:08.17 | Brigo | zh1, sorry, not for you. |
| 14:08.40 | jelly | dionysus70: see if upgrading libdrm2 as well makes any difference |
| 14:08.43 | dionysus70 | ok will install that too, restart and report back |
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| 14:09.33 | dionysus70 | jelly: it says it is already the latest veersion |
| 14:09.44 | dionysus70 | that package got upgraded I guess when I was upgrading others |
| 14:09.53 | jelly | I _think_ mesa pulls it in automatically but maybe not. Since there's no backport of X server, if that does not make a difference you're out of luck and have to go buster |
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| 14:12.42 | zh1 | jelly, ext4 |
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| 14:20.58 | kbob | blackflow: it's too slow... let me try reinstall debian, thanks |
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| 14:21.28 | blackflow | probably hardware failure |
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| 14:23.20 | at0m | reinstall!? what for? |
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| 14:55.02 | dka | I am looking for a Debian Stretch tutorial to configure my UNIX hosts to authenticate against LDAP. Would be appreciated if we could also pull group from the LDAP. |
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| 15:02.54 | jelly | dka: real ldap or an existing windows AD? |
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| 15:05.22 | dka | OpenLdap |
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| 15:09.02 | Ool | dka: https://www.linux.com/news/linux-ldap-authentication ? |
| 15:09.53 | Ool | https://www.unixmen.com/configure-linux-clients-to-authenticate-using-openldap/ |
| 15:10.11 | Ool | there are lots of link about ldapauth |
| 15:11.30 | dka | I've spend 5hours trying a few |
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| 15:12.30 | Akuw | hi |
| 15:13.53 | Akuw | after light go off my debian server can't boot properly, i got this when use fdisk -l "Partition does not start on physical start boundary after shutdown" |
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| 15:21.00 | jelly | dka: setting up a ldap server for the first time is not 5hours, just reading and understanding I'd say would take 1-3 weeks worth, probably setting it up once, figuring you chose the wrong schema or wrong UI, and redoing everything anew |
| 15:21.28 | wr | jelly, any suggestion on the servlist empty? |
| 15:21.58 | jelly | wr: what does this say: ls -ld ~/.config/hexchat/servlist.conf |
| 15:23.10 | wr | -rw------- 1 user user 8966 Sep 7 15:52 /home/user/.config/hexchat/servlist.conf, permissions no? |
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| 15:24.28 | jelly | that does not look empty |
| 15:24.39 | jelly | wr: permissions are ok |
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| 15:25.30 | jelly | wr: quit hexchat, make sure there are no leftover hexchat processes anywhere (kill them if needed, and reverify), start again and see what happens |
| 15:25.46 | jelly | wr: do the contents of that file look like normal text? |
| 15:25.59 | wr | jelly, my doubt is... if i reboot, what makes file get empty? |
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| 15:27.45 | wr | jelly, yes previously they are normal text, after reboot get just one entry on serverlist |
| 15:28.23 | jelly | wr: what's in the rest of the file? How many lines of text is there? wc -l ... |
| 15:28.30 | wr | jelly, i dont know exactly if this is something on debian or just hexchat side |
| 15:29.14 | jelly | wr: I use hexchat on Debian 9 and this does not happen |
| 15:29.38 | wr | jelly, now i have many more because restored it like 783 |
| 15:30.02 | jelly | oh, you could have mentioned that |
| 15:30.11 | wr | jelly, i have two more machines with it and does not happen too, now does this, cant get why |
| 15:31.30 | jelly | wr: is this reproducible, does it always happen on a reboot? Might be a slight fs corruption, might be a disk full situation, it's hard to say if you can't show actual symptoms. |
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| 15:34.55 | wr | jelly, i dont reboot that often debian as you can imagine uptimes are high but last time i did it got erased again, i would have to do a backup on file and restart to see if does by third time |
| 15:35.24 | jelly | ask again next time it happens and try not to destroy evidence |
| 15:36.09 | jelly | could be any number of things, I don't want to guess wildly |
| 15:36.44 | wr | jelly, i can just reboot and see if happens again |
| 15:37.17 | jelly | yes, that might provide an answer to "is this reproducible" |
| 15:37.34 | wr | jelly, brb let me reboot it |
| 15:40.12 | Akuw | after light go off my debian server can't boot properly, i got this when use fdisk -l "Partition does not start on physical start boundary after shutdown" |
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| 15:50.59 | jelly | Akuw: that's not a fatal error, just a warning about one or more partitions not being aligned as expected |
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| 15:51.33 | jelly | it is probably not relevant to machine failing to boot, at all |
| 15:51.50 | jelly | !ask |
| 15:51.51 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 15:56.23 | obiwahn | does debian still use /etc/default/locale? |
| 15:58.06 | greycat | You tell us. Re-run dpkg-reconfigure locales, set the default to something, and see if it puts it in that file. |
| 15:58.14 | jelly | obiwahn: grep -R /etc/default/locale /etc/pam.d |
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| 15:58.18 | greycat | (just be sure to remember to change it back to normal afterward) |
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| 15:58.30 | Akuw | jelly: but Debian can't boot after light problem |
| 15:58.51 | jelly | Akuw: get access to console. See what it shows. |
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| 15:59.28 | obiwahn | jelly: also per login? |
| 15:59.31 | jelly | Akuw: then, reboot, remove "quiet" option from the kernel boot parameters, tell us what it shows and where the boot process seems to hand |
| 15:59.31 | gedia | hello all. is there any way to determine the association between traditional and persistent device names for disk other than looking for symlinks under /dev/disk/by-id for example? |
| 15:59.37 | jelly | to hang* |
| 15:59.38 | obiwahn | jelly via login? |
| 15:59.39 | wr | jelly, this time didnt happen |
| 15:59.44 | Akuw | After press Control-D |
| 15:59.58 | Akuw | there is shell promt |
| 15:59.59 | obiwahn | /usr/lib/systemd/user-environment-generators/30-systemd-environment-d-generator is compiled |
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| 16:00.09 | jelly | Akuw: what EXACTLY is shown on the screen? |
| 16:00.14 | jelly | !paste |
| 16:00.14 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 16:00.30 | obiwahn | ENVIRONMENT.D(5) does not list the file in /etc/default |
| 16:00.55 | Akuw | jelly: i can do ls ,etc |
| 16:00.58 | greycat | obiwahn: what part of the output of jelly's command did you not understand? what did your own testing reveal, when you tried it? |
| 16:01.18 | jelly | obiwahn: yeah, ssh and login and various login managers (like gdm or sddm) are all PAM-enabled and have pam config |
| 16:01.29 | Akuw | this is in emergency mode |
| 16:01.40 | wr | http://picpaste.com/ seems down here |
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| 16:01.54 | greycat | then choose a different site? |
| 16:02.09 | jelly | Akuw: can you show a screenshot or a paste with actual text, before you control-d |
| 16:02.11 | rant | dpkg, paste =~ s#http://picpaste.com#https://imgur.com# |
| 16:02.11 | dpkg | rant: OK |
| 16:02.14 | obiwahn | jelly: i am wondering how it works because i have set LC_TIME and others values in /etc/default/locale |
| 16:02.32 | greycat | obiwahn: your poor users. :( |
| 16:02.35 | obiwahn | but none of the shows if i do a `set | grep LC_` |
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| 16:02.43 | greycat | obiwahn: and then you logged out and back in? |
| 16:02.53 | obiwahn | sure |
| 16:02.53 | rant | wr: picpaste went down months ago.. |
| 16:02.58 | jelly | rant: however, imgur has like 50 3rd party cookies by default and requires javascript |
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| 16:03.21 | rant | jelly: know of a better one or would you rather keep a broken link :P |
| 16:03.26 | greycat | obiwahn: also, are you using GNOME by chance? |
| 16:03.26 | jelly | it's a lot better than a defunct site yes |
| 16:03.29 | wr | rant, dpkg needs an update lol |
| 16:03.39 | rant | wr: I just updated it :P |
| 16:03.40 | greycat | obiwahn: or any other Desktop Environment, if so, please specify which one... |
| 16:03.45 | obiwahn | greycat: no i am more a purist using xmonad |
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| 16:04.08 | greycat | obiwahn: some of the DEs fuck with the locale environment settings when you login, so it's important to rule that out. |
| 16:04.15 | greycat | GNOME fucks with EVERYTHING. |
| 16:04.40 | jelly | in a bad way, not a pleasurable way |
| 16:04.44 | greycat | Yeah. |
| 16:04.52 | jelly | gnome is not a slut |
| 16:04.54 | rant | I did like picpaste but it is no more.. and imgur is the only other one I know of that doesnt require a registration to use.. flikr works.. has android apps and such but afaik it requires a yahoo account |
| 16:05.07 | obiwahn | gnome and kde do far too much magic i relly just need a few windows :) |
| 16:05.16 | jelly | obiwahn: how do you start X? |
| 16:05.24 | wr | rant, http://pastie.org/ do you get the nginx? |
| 16:05.32 | obiwahn | lightdm or startx |
| 16:05.42 | greycat | obiwahn: you really need to STATE the answer, not make us guess. |
| 16:05.43 | obiwahn | let me startx |
| 16:05.51 | jelly | obiwahn: is there a config file for lightdm in /etc/pam.d/ ? |
| 16:05.53 | greycat | If it's startx, just check the environment BEFORE you run startx. |
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| 16:06.31 | Akuw | https://www.uploadarea.de/files/eu1/c0jorioA3-image002.jpg |
| 16:06.50 | Akuw | jelly: look please |
| 16:07.01 | jelly | obiwahn: also, can you pastebin your /etc/default/locale, and that grep above |
| 16:07.07 | rant | dpkg, paste =~ s#http://pastie.org/ or https://imgur.com/#https://0bin.net/ or https://imgur.com/upload# |
| 16:07.07 | dpkg | OK, rant |
| 16:07.11 | obiwahn | hum with startx i get the LC_TIME value |
| 16:07.21 | rant | wr: yes.. both are replaced now |
| 16:07.29 | obiwahn | that was a good hint!!! ill inspect my lightdm!!! |
| 16:07.46 | greycat | obiwahn: because this time, you logged in on the Linux virtual console using login(1), and login has a PAM config file that tells it to read the horrible stupid useless broken /etc/default/locale file. |
| 16:07.57 | obiwahn | http://paste.debian.net/1041172/ |
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| 16:08.27 | jelly | Akuw: is this with or without "quiet"? Can you show what's on screen BEFORE typing anything, including Control-D? |
| 16:08.34 | greycat | Using /etc/default/locale is BAD, because it overrides the locale variables that you set in your ssh client that you want to be propagated into your ssh session on the Debian machine. |
| 16:08.38 | obiwahn | greycat: you do not like /etc/default |
| 16:08.52 | jelly | greycat: it's neither horrible nor useless. Just a bit redundant |
| 16:08.52 | obiwahn | or you think it is horrible to have different locales? |
| 16:08.57 | greycat | I do not like "dpkg-reconfigure locales" setting a "default" that isn't a default but a hard override. |
| 16:09.08 | greycat | I think it's AWESOME to have user-configurable locales! |
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| 16:09.19 | greycat | That's why /etc/default/locale is BAD. It does not let users set the locale properly. |
| 16:09.30 | jelly | greycat: it's a global default that is applied at the only sane point where it can be applied |
| 16:09.35 | obiwahn | but a sane preset is good |
| 16:09.44 | greycat | jelly: except it's broken and wrong. |
| 16:09.46 | jelly | unless you want systemd-specific solution |
| 16:09.51 | wr | !dpkg debian |
| 16:09.52 | dpkg | i heard debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 16:10.03 | obiwahn | egnlish manpages are the only sane option but time or papersize etc |
| 16:10.21 | jelly | greycat: how is it "wrong" |
| 16:10.31 | greycat | If you ssh into a Debian server from an HP-UX box with a *.iso88591 locale, and the Debian server has LANG=en_US.utf8 or whatever in /etc/default/locale, it will OVERRIDE what ssh sends, and then you will be in the wrong encoding. |
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| 16:11.08 | greycat | The only way to get it to work is to REMOVE the setting from /etc/default/locale and put something CONDITIONAL in the /etc/profile and whatever the *csh equivalent is, and let DM logins go fuck themselves. |
| 16:11.21 | themill | err, no? the encoding asked for by ssh is honoured. |
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| 16:11.43 | themill | That's actually a common failure when people ssh in from a mac and Debian doesn't have the same locale names |
| 16:12.40 | inquisitiv3 | I'm trying to expand a partition (contains everything) in a VM running Sid. The disk has MBR and is just partitions with FS (no LVM or encryption). The FS is EXT4. According to resize2fs' manpage I should expand the partition with fdisk or a similar program before expanding the FS. I've done this before, but with a disk running LVM. But I can't find out how to extend the partition without first deleting it. Is there a way to do that? |
| 16:12.45 | jelly | greycat: that's just broken, how is it wrong? |
| 16:13.56 | obiwahn | inquisitiv3: partition and fs are different things |
| 16:14.04 | Wulf | inquisitiv3: it's okay to delete the partition and recreate it with bigger size |
| 16:14.15 | Wulf | inquisitiv3: but make sure it starts at the same position as before |
| 16:14.18 | obiwahn | you need the expand the partition and then you will be able to grow the filesystem |
| 16:14.33 | obiwahn | if it is too complicated use gparted |
| 16:14.35 | greycat | jelly: All I can tell you right now, as I head out to find food, is that after removing the crap from /etc/environment and from /etc/default/locale and putting conditional ${LANG:=...} in /etc/profile, my shit all worked correctly. |
| 16:15.10 | inquisitiv3 | obiwahn: I'm trying to expand the partition. |
| 16:15.10 | jelly | nod, bon appetit |
| 16:15.28 | themill | /etc/ssh/sshd_config: AcceptEnv LANG LC_* |
| 16:15.33 | wr | rant, https://send.firefox.com/ https://www.file.io/ don't seem bad ;) |
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| 16:16.14 | inquisitiv3 | Wulf: So I've to boot a live system in the VM and do it? No expansion without unmounting and deleting the current root partition? |
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| 16:16.39 | jelly | themill: it does seem broken going from Debian 9 with env LANG=en_US ssh to other Debian 9. |
| 16:16.53 | jelly | and I _think_ I read a bug report somewhere |
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| 16:17.16 | themill | jelly: that's about locale generation on the server, not ignoring the user's settings |
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| 16:17.26 | themill | the user setting is honoured and that's the problem |
| 16:17.44 | Wulf | inquisitiv3: I think you can do it live. |
| 16:18.23 | Wulf | inquisitiv3: I mean, you don't need to reboot into a "live system", but you can do it in the "live system" |
| 16:19.40 | inquisitiv3 | Wulf: When I try to unmount the root part. I get the error message "umount: /: target is busy". |
| 16:19.53 | inquisitiv3 | I used sudo. |
| 16:20.07 | Wulf | so don't unmount it. |
| 16:20.30 | jelly | themill: but it's not http://paste.debian.net/1041174/ |
| 16:20.35 | rant | wr: yes file.io seems decent but the firefox one, like many google projects doesnt seem like its more than someones pet project that will probably disappear like google wave :P |
| 16:20.52 | inquisitiv3 | Wulf: So I should just delete it and create a new partition? |
| 16:21.05 | Wulf | inquisitiv3: yes |
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| 16:22.55 | jelly | LANG=C surely exists, even if locale.gen is for some reason out of sync. Let me check if I've messed up my client ssh_config maybe |
| 16:23.36 | jelly | oh, I did -_- |
| 16:24.58 | themill | jelly: LANG gets walloped by pam, apparently. Everything else makes it through |
| 16:25.08 | jelly | but it fails even with uncommented SendEnv in /etc/ssh/ssh_config (I commented it out years ago because there's no unSendEnv) |
| 16:26.13 | inquisitiv3 | Does fdisk list partition's sizes or fs' sizes? |
| 16:26.34 | themill | and that pam config was added because other people were complaining that ssh sessions didn't use /etc/default/locale (i.e. the poor maintainer can't win) |
| 16:29.59 | jelly | nope, I can't LC_CTYPE either |
| 16:30.08 | jelly | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 16:30.34 | jelly | http://paste.debian.net/1041176/ |
| 16:31.35 | jelly | I could swear this used to work |
| 16:31.57 | petn-randall | jelly: Stop using non-ASCII characters, you breaking my broken locale! |
| 16:32.03 | petn-randall | *you're |
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| 16:32.52 | themill | wfm |
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| 16:33.41 | petn-randall | ;) |
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| 16:38.20 | inquisitiv3 | What partitions does Debian create by default on a BIOS system? I did as Wulf suggested and only deleted my root part., but when I create it again to takes the same amount of space. I guess it's because another partition comes after that and lastly the swap partition. The confusing thing is that `lsblk` and fdisk report different sizes of the middle part. According to lsblk it's 1K, but according to fdisk it's 4G. But if I summarize |
| 16:38.21 | inquisitiv3 | the sizes reported by fdisk it doesn't make sense. |
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| 16:38.34 | inquisitiv3 | I'm thoroughly confused. |
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| 16:38.50 | inquisitiv3 | So I've swapped of the swap. |
| 16:39.32 | jhutchins_wk | !ig |
| 16:39.32 | dpkg | [stretch installation guide] The Installation Guide for Debian 9 "Stretch" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/installmanual . See also <errata> and <stretch release notes>. |
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| 16:44.46 | inquisitiv3 | jhutchins_wk: Maybe I'm blind, but I can't find the information I'm looking for... Do you happen to know what section explains the partitions that's is created automatically when you use the guided partitioning on a BIOS system? |
| 16:47.14 | rant | is there a way for me to logout and keep the wifi connected with n-m or do I need to just install a lock program? |
| 16:48.01 | greycat | I don't know anything about n-m but I would definitely advise installing a session locking program. |
| 16:48.09 | rant | I just dont really wanna bother with another program especially if I'm not sure if it'll work right with fingerprint auth, when I know lightdm works.. but loggin out kills my wifi when I got stuff running in screen |
| 16:49.03 | rant | cause honestly I'm not even sure what my passwd is :P I know the rootfs password and I use fingerprint for user identity.. |
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| 16:50.36 | ExoUNX | afternoon |
| 16:51.01 | rant | cheesburger |
| 16:51.09 | ExoUNX | does the debian "testing" repo not have a public key? |
| 16:51.15 | ExoUNX | or if it does, where I can I grab it? |
| 16:51.29 | rant | the keys are all in the debian-archive-keyring |
| 16:51.31 | ExoUNX | could go for a cheeseburge |
| 16:51.51 | rant | ,i debian-archive-keyring |
| 16:51.52 | judd | Package debian-archive-keyring (misc, important) in stretch/amd64: GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive. Version: 2017.5; Size: 55.1k; Installed: 118k |
| 16:52.59 | rant | ,i debian-archive-keyring buster |
| 16:53.00 | judd | Package debian-archive-keyring (misc, important) in buster/amd64: GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive. Version: 2017.7; Size: 55.6k; Installed: 114k |
| 16:53.30 | rant | hmm I could swear testing/unstable keys were in the stable package but I dont see them on my system.. just stretch, jessie, wheezy |
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| 16:54.04 | ExoUNX | rant, thanks, added |
| 16:55.20 | ExoUNX | and now I have restic 0.9.2 <3 |
| 16:55.30 | ExoUNX | ls |
| 16:55.55 | rant | there is also this |
| 16:56.00 | rant | !keys for apt |
| 16:56.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, import gpg key is gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv [ID] && gpg --armor --export [ID] | apt-key add - |
| 16:56.14 | rant | but the package is simpler imho |
| 16:56.37 | ExoUNX | yah I just did dpkg -i keyring.deb |
| 16:57.01 | rant | o.O |
| 16:57.15 | jelly | ExoUNX: however, don't mix repos for different releases (or distros) unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing and what the consequences can be |
| 16:57.38 | rant | where/how did you get this keyring.deb? :P |
| 16:57.40 | ExoUNX | jelly, yah, I'm using the repo for one package |
| 16:57.54 | ExoUNX | rant, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debian-archive-keyring/debian-archive-keyring_2017.5_all.deb |
| 16:58.05 | jelly | ExoUNX: and that's enough to mess up your system if it pulls one more as a dependency |
| 16:58.24 | ExoUNX | jelly, nope, restic doesn't need dependencies |
| 16:58.33 | rant | ,depends restic |
| 16:58.34 | judd | Package restic in stretch/amd64 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2). |
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| 16:58.42 | rant | ,depends restic buster |
| 16:58.43 | judd | Package restic in buster/amd64 -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2). |
| 16:58.47 | jelly | lucky |
| 16:59.06 | jelly | still, remove the repo config right after that |
| 16:59.07 | rant | yeah if it had a strict req on libc, you'd be in trouble |
| 16:59.58 | jelly | or if it Recommends: anything. |
| 17:01.04 | ExoUNX | apt is already updated after removing the testing repo |
| 17:01.34 | ExoUNX | though, I might as well just compile my own at this point if I can't use it to update |
| 17:01.37 | rant | why did you need the newer restic? |
| 17:01.47 | rant | doesnt seem like the kinda thing that would matter |
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| 17:02.22 | ExoUNX | 0.9.0~ has some bugfixes and small features that I need |
| 17:02.31 | ExoUNX | otherwise I would have just used 0.8.3 |
| 17:03.02 | nodiscc | dpkg bot used to have a one-line answer on how to backport a sid package, where is it? |
| 17:03.04 | dpkg | nodiscc: I think you lost me on that one |
| 17:03.08 | rant | !ssb |
| 17:03.08 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 17:03.31 | nodiscc | ssb, dpkg, thanks |
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| 17:04.31 | rant | goes to find some skin save glue so he can stick around :P |
| 17:04.39 | rant | s/save/safe/ |
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| 17:08.05 | EdePopede | what happened to the pa mixer between the versions? seems i can't change volume on one channel anymore or main volume without the values in the other tab also changing. is there a hidden setting or something? |
| 17:08.36 | rant | hmm well that works.. actually I havent found anything that doesnt work with this fingerprint yet but I swear some things work better than others.. I put a 2nd print in there and like synaptic only seems to work with my pinky where lightdm works better with my index it seems.. I gotta be imagining that crap.. its all the same backend :P |
| 17:08.44 | jelly | EdePopede: do you mean pavucontrol or some other thing? |
| 17:09.22 | EdePopede | jelly: right, it is pavucontrol |
| 17:09.51 | petn-randall | Hmm, I've got rhythmbox stuck in the "D" state, I can't even kill -9 it. I didn't even know that was possible with rhythmbox. |
| 17:10.53 | jelly | EdePopede: there's a lock button right of every Playback stream and every Output Device |
| 17:11.13 | jelly | petn-randall: it's not poor rhythmbox, it's the kernel's fault |
| 17:11.25 | petn-randall | Apparently it's due to an Android phone connected via USB, even though I never told it to access it. *sigh* |
| 17:12.07 | jelly | your DE might have tried to mount it automagically, it MIGHT HAVE SONGS |
| 17:12.17 | sZbcE8qNfG | anyone know of a dual ethernet low powered x86 x64 machine? |
| 17:12.19 | at0m | ringsong |
| 17:12.44 | greycat | I picture random applications chatting up the sexy little number that just dropped in. "Heeey there, babe." |
| 17:12.45 | jelly | petn-randall: if it's a fuse-based mount as it oft happens, find the backend process and kill it, that releases IO |
| 17:12.48 | sZbcE8qNfG | trying to replace my custom router that has 2 USB ethernet with a one that has 2 nics built in |
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| 17:13.48 | EdePopede | jelly: this only splits both channels from each other. dragged mail left down, player left went down too. that's one of the things, input channel can't be louder than main volume. dragging the channel up again also changed the one on the player. they are now at 80% and 51% (mouse wheel changes in 5% steps) |
| 17:13.50 | jelly | petn-randall: with a stuck sshfs, -9 is required |
| 17:15.19 | jelly | EdePopede: honestly I never figured out why/how changing the output device volume affects app stream or not |
| 17:15.25 | petn-randall | jelly: There's no fuse to be done, it's just plugged in to charge. I haven't enabled any file transfer on the phone. I got it fixed but I'm still wondering how it can blow up like that. |
| 17:15.36 | rant | sZbcE8qNfG: not really a debian question https://www.ebay.com/p/Windows-10-X86-Fanless-Mini-ITX-Motherboard-6-Rs232-2-Intel-LAN-Linux/1751625185?iid=263105844915&chn=ps |
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| 17:16.04 | sZbcE8qNfG | i can't believe people trust ebay for computing devices...the firmware could be installed by the CIA |
| 17:16.07 | EdePopede | jelly: this is new behaviour in erm... debian 9... stretch? twitch? *g* |
| 17:16.21 | at0m | sZbcE8qNfG: then why not go for a dedi router? it's taken me some time, but find a nice cheap one that nearly runs debian, and https://openwrt.org/ support |
| 17:16.38 | at0m | s/find/found |
| 17:16.42 | sZbcE8qNfG | i need openVPN support...at real speeds |
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| 17:17.02 | jelly | EdePopede: I've kept pulse backported locally and via *-backports (or worse) for so long I don't know when it got like that |
| 17:17.17 | sZbcE8qNfG | tried 3 $200-300 routers....all of them get less than 20Mbps when using openVPN |
| 17:17.21 | at0m | sZbcE8qNfG: mine is quad MIPS, so none of that spectre/meltdown thing either |
| 17:17.32 | at0m | and all gigalan, one fibre port |
| 17:17.42 | sZbcE8qNfG | just wish the intel nuc had 2 NICS |
| 17:18.31 | rant | sZbcE8qNfG: so buy direct.. that mfg makes all kinds of low power boards with multiple nics onboard |
| 17:19.24 | jelly | sZbcE8qNfG: you might ask for recommendations in ##networking |
| 17:19.32 | sZbcE8qNfG | oh ok |
| 17:20.19 | rant | https://qotom.aliexpress.com/store/108231 is their international seller afaik |
| 17:20.32 | rant | they have complete systems for like $150 |
| 17:20.33 | EdePopede | jelly: maybe you have an idea for an alternative? on wheezy i installed it when skype (don't ask...) stopped supporting alsa. looks more flexible when it comes do combining channels, but the interface is (and was then) horrible and now this one. |
| 17:20.47 | sZbcE8qNfG | no way, I will never trust any junk sold on ali express |
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| 17:21.35 | EdePopede | i'm not even sure if the changes happen on the card, in the driver or whereever or if the application behaves like this now (what i think it does, since it was behaving at least under this aspect in the past) |
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| 17:23.00 | rant | sZbcE8qNfG: heh.. https://www.amazon.com/Q190G4N-S07-Industrial-Gateway-Firewall-pfSense/dp/B01CSCGD58 |
| 17:23.06 | EdePopede | sZbcE8qNfG, but you never know if it is something like this: https://i.redd.it/vh9zznpc9d6y.jpg |
| 17:23.17 | rant | idk what part of you can get them from anywhere you're not getting |
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| 17:24.29 | rant | if you just go to one of these damn sites, look this up, theyll suggest similar things like the sophos, zygel, etc.. and then you can search for one you like and buy it from whomever you trust |
| 17:24.49 | rant | thats just the cheapest, lowest power one I know of |
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| 17:25.28 | jelly | EdePopede: I learned to live with PA |
| 17:25.31 | annadane | what are generic groups to add my user for virt-manager, just libvirt and kvm or...? |
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| 17:25.43 | jelly | it only goes weird every couple months for me |
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| 17:28.42 | EdePopede | even the interface elements jump around, something has a long name, BANG it suddenly needs half of the screen width (whereas i keep it on the right border). and when i changed volumes by dragging, not mouse wheel, and then the numbers changing numbers of digit (like around 100% or -10dB), the width of the controller changes. and there seem to be no text mode alternative :/ |
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| 17:28.55 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 17:29.11 | context | so i have an already existing debian install, whats the easiest package to install to have gnome (and be able to remove it if i dont want it) |
| 17:29.28 | greycat | !install gnome |
| 17:29.28 | dpkg | To install GNOME: «apt-get install â¦Â» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
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| 17:29.32 | Iarfen | hi! |
| 17:29.44 | context | im having a hard time getting X with DPI working nicely between my two monitors so i want to see if gnome can set things nicely that i can steal settings from |
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| 17:30.10 | Iarfen | when installing Debian under Windows 10 it can after some time get uninstalled without doing any kind of partition that after the uninstalling can't be changed again? I'm trying to avoid to have to install Windows 10 again |
| 17:30.33 | context | also are there any known / useful WM / setup instructions for wayland? maybe ill give that a go too :x |
| 17:30.43 | petn-randall | Iarfen: I cannot parse your sentence. |
| 17:31.55 | johnfg | On the win7 systems here, both systems are seen by the other, and the debian system as a vpn connection is seen. |
| 17:31.57 | jelly | Iarfen: how precisely does one go "installing Debian under Windows 10"? WSL? |
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| 17:32.04 | jelly | virtual machine? |
| 17:32.22 | Iarfen | jelly: no, well, installing it in some way that I can execute it outside Windows 10, alone :D |
| 17:32.30 | Iarfen | it's mandatory to do a partition for that purpose? |
| 17:32.39 | jelly | Iarfen: you can use a separate disk |
| 17:32.44 | johnfg | however, the debian system is *not* seen in the network and sharing center. All seems right on the windows side. Is there something that has to be set or turned on in debian? |
| 17:32.51 | Iarfen | jelly: another physical hdd you say? |
| 17:33.01 | jelly | Iarfen: or ssd, sure |
| 17:33.04 | petn-randall | Iarfen: Do you want to dual-boot Windows 10 and Debian? Is that your question? |
| 17:33.11 | Iarfen | petn-randall: yes |
| 17:33.55 | rant | Iarfen: you could even run it from a thumbdrive.. I've installed to a 32GB thumbdrive before so I could use it anywhere |
| 17:34.04 | jelly | Iarfen: it is possible to install a linux like debian side by side with windows, and choose whether windows loader or grub boots from uefi |
| 17:34.16 | petn-randall | Iarfen: Debian does not touch anything that could make Windows 10 unbootable. It's usually the other way around if you have a legacy BIOS. Windows for some reason sometimes overwrites the bootloader. UEFI eliminates this issue. |
| 17:34.36 | jelly | that's aobut the only thing UEFI does better |
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| 17:35.18 | Iarfen | well, ok, I'll try that then thanks |
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| 17:38.58 | Iarfen | how I do to install GRUB? |
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| 17:42.21 | jelly | Iarfen: debian installer does that near the end of installation process |
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| 17:44.22 | Iarfen | jelly: ok |
| 17:44.44 | inquisitiv3 | Thanks for earlier Wulf! You helped me out :) |
| 17:46.13 | inquisitiv3 | Is there a way to automatically generate a new fstab based on the currently mounted filesystems? Or do I need to manually edit /etc/fstab? |
| 17:47.14 | inquisitiv3 | Every thread I find talks about editing the file, but I don't know if it's because it didn't work earlier/people being overly nostalgic. |
| 17:47.48 | greycat | Usually one edits the file FIRST, then does "mount /foobar" to make sure it works, then reboots to perform the ultimate test. |
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| 17:49.35 | inquisitiv3 | greycat: How would I know the new UUID's before creating the new partitions? :/ |
| 17:50.17 | inquisitiv3 | Btw, I've partitioned the whole disk. So new root and new swap part. |
| 17:50.46 | jelly | inquisitiv3: you would use blkid or some other tool to read them |
| 17:50.47 | greycat | blkid gives you the UUIDs, among other things |
| 17:51.05 | greycat | or you might have used labels instead of UUIDs |
| 17:51.07 | jelly | or you'd use LABELs instead of UUIDs because pretty |
| 17:51.17 | greycat | jelcat is on the case |
| 17:51.24 | jelly | mrrow |
| 17:51.50 | inquisitiv3 | So I've to manually edit the file? |
| 17:51.57 | jelly | yes |
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| 17:56.42 | inquisitiv3 | Okey, thanks for your answers! |
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| 17:57.55 | context | wow. wayland works/looks way better, and automatically |
| 17:58.05 | context | guess i will have to spend some time with that :) |
| 17:58.12 | inquisitiv3 | I was able to boot into my system again! Yippie! |
| 17:58.25 | inquisitiv3 | context: How's Wayland on Debian? |
| 17:58.51 | inquisitiv3 | I'm guessing you're talking about Debian |
| 17:58.56 | context | its been running for 2 minutes but it made life enjoyable with a hiDPI and non hi monitor at the same time easy |
| 17:59.12 | context | just need to rip gnome out and find a usable minimal WM |
| 17:59.14 | greycat | I'm still not understanding the point of wayland. Other than curiosity and "ooh shiny new toy", why would one want to use it? |
| 17:59.37 | context | architecturally its ... better and more secure than X im pretty sure ? |
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| 18:03.18 | inquisitiv3 | I remember seeing a talk by one of the X.org devs saying that there's bug reports that opened in the 80's (I think) that hasn't been solvable because of its architecture. |
| 18:03.36 | Tramtrist | :( |
| 18:03.59 | jelly | greycat: apparently it's a system where not every app can spy on your keyboard and mouse and events and windows of any other app. |
| 18:05.15 | greycat | Fair enough, and I did read about that, and the fact that this means you can't copy/paste stuff between applications in wayland. |
| 18:05.28 | greycat | Unless they came up with some workaround-hack for that. |
| 18:05.34 | context | what ? |
| 18:05.44 | context | im copy/pasting just fine |
| 18:05.54 | greycat | OK, then the outdated stuff I had been reading is outdated. |
| 18:06.05 | greycat | I wonder how they hacked that in. |
| 18:06.48 | context | hacked? |
| 18:07.06 | context | copy/paste has nothing to do with what jelly said |
| 18:07.28 | context | you can share a clipboard. but every app being able to read your keyboard/mouse events at all times is.... scary |
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| 18:07.43 | sZbcE8qNfG | if it's already on your system, it's game over |
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| 18:08.10 | jelly | X? No, only if it's running :-) |
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| 18:09.28 | greycat | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1585393 is one of the first google results |
| 18:10.10 | ticapix | hi |
| 18:11.44 | ticapix | I want to install Debian on a small pc (a bee-link X55). I managed to burn and install ubuntu server, centos7. but for debian, it just freeze on the blank screen with just a non-blinking white cursor. |
| 18:12.24 | ticapix | I have no clue why centos7 / ubuntu server 18.04 can be installed and not debian. |
| 18:12.45 | ticapix | I tried debian 8.11, 9.5 both for x86 and amd64 |
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| 18:12.54 | ksk | ticapix: did you check the various options of the installer? iirc there were some with reduced graphics-foo |
| 18:13.42 | ticapix | ksk, it hangs just after selecting the usb device. It doesn't reach the grub menu |
| 18:13.52 | ticapix | I put pictures here http://www.bee-link.com/forum.php/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=41908&extra=page%3D1 |
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| 18:16.57 | SPF | I'm not able to start apache2, how do I troubleshoot systemd? https://paste.debian.net/1041195/ |
| 18:18.23 | SPF | apache2 was working before reboot |
| 18:18.33 | sZbcE8qNfG | systemctl status apache2 |
| 18:18.55 | SPF | sZbcE8qNfG: see paste link |
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| 18:20.46 | blackflow | SPF: have you tried to investigate which file is supposedly missing? |
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| 18:21.16 | SPF | blackflow: I wish I knew how to troubleshoot that, but I have no clue where to start |
| 18:21.51 | sZbcE8qNfG | try journalctl -p err | tail and seeing if the error is listed there |
| 18:22.07 | sZbcE8qNfG | i'm running on opensuse......had trouble with debian |
| 18:22.11 | blackflow | SPF: I hope that's not a live server then, but your testing env. |
| 18:22.50 | SPF | sZbcE8qNfG: it only says Sep 07 20:14:05 debian systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache HTTP Server. |
| 18:22.56 | sZbcE8qNfG | there is no reason? |
| 18:23.00 | SPF | nope |
| 18:23.05 | blackflow | there is |
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| 18:23.07 | blackflow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.25 | blackflow | is your config correct? iirc apachectl -t should test it |
| 18:23.37 | SPF | yes, but I don't know what it means. Missing a file named 'start' ? |
| 18:24.10 | blackflow | no, some file accessed durign the start task. I'm guessing, apache is not sysv init script still, right? it's a proper systemd unit? |
| 18:24.31 | greycat | last time I checked, apache2 on debian still has an init.d script only |
| 18:24.43 | blackflow | ugh.... |
| 18:25.10 | SPF | greycat: yes I read that as well, I also found some request for systemd scripts |
| 18:25.11 | greycat | Ah, that's wrong now. Sorry. |
| 18:25.17 | greycat | There is a /lib/systemd/system/apache2.service on stretch,. |
| 18:25.33 | blackflow | greycat: I think sysv init style services are listed as LSB by systemd |
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| 18:26.18 | sZbcE8qNfG | is it running in read only mode? |
| 18:26.25 | FXpro | where are programs installed on debian wine? I installed an app and it does not have an icon. |
| 18:26.27 | greycat | It's a really *bare* /lib/systemd/system/apache2.service that just relies on ExecStop=/usr/sbin/apachectl etc. though. |
| 18:26.31 | sZbcE8qNfG | maybe it cannot write to tmp |
| 18:26.33 | blackflow | SPF: so, is apachectl -t producing any meaningful output? |
| 18:26.54 | blackflow | greycat: still better than autogenerated wrapper for init.d shellscript |
| 18:26.59 | FXpro | and what if I want to uninstall a program I installed using wine? |
| 18:27.21 | SPF | blackflow: only one warning -> AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message |
| 18:27.40 | FXpro | also, if I have custom coded files I want to copy into my app, it will not copy over. is there a work around? |
| 18:27.40 | SPF | it says syntax OK |
| 18:28.16 | sZbcE8qNfG | google that specific error reveals it's cause it's trying to run "Read only" |
| 18:28.25 | sZbcE8qNfG | whatever that means |
| 18:29.12 | blackflow | SPF: can you pastebin systemctl cat apache2.service ? |
| 18:29.50 | SPF | https://paste.debian.net/1041199/ |
| 18:29.50 | jhutchins_wk | SPF: That error won't keep the server from running. |
| 18:30.29 | mtn | FXpro: #winehq might be helpful |
| 18:31.00 | FXpro | ok I am looking... |
| 18:31.18 | blackflow | SPF: how about apache error log? not sure where it is, somewhere under /var/log/apache/error_log maybe |
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| 18:31.27 | FXpro | can I install an app like dfx audio enhancer by chance using wine? |
| 18:31.56 | SPF | blackflow: /var/log/apache2/error.log is empty |
| 18:33.28 | blackflow | SPF: and file /usr/sbin/apachectl exists, right? eg. stat /usr/sbin/apachectl returns file stat? |
| 18:33.44 | SPF | blackflow: yes it exists |
| 18:34.01 | greycat | and /usr/sbin/apache2 exists as well? |
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| 18:34.40 | SPF | greycat: yes |
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| 18:35.11 | McErroneous | Hi, what is the meaning of the cfdisk "NC" - flag ? i am not a native english speaker..., and i do not get it |
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| 18:36.09 | greycat | McErroneous: where do you see it? what's the context? |
| 18:37.00 | SPF | maybe I should try root as user in envvars? |
| 18:37.14 | McErroneous | type in command prompt "cfdisk /dev/sda" |
| 18:37.32 | greycat | I already did "sudo cfdisk" and did not see "NC" anywhere. Just tell us what *you* see. |
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| 18:37.57 | McErroneous | greycat, if you dont know by now, then it wont matter if i tell you the context |
| 18:38.06 | greycat | *PLO\NK* |
| 18:38.21 | greycat | You don't want us to help? Fine. Suffer. |
| 18:38.24 | McErroneous | greycat, nvm... |
| 18:38.27 | blackflow | that was a loud plonk :) |
| 18:38.31 | sZbcE8qNfG | SPF, is the apache directory or tmp mounted as readonly |
| 18:38.35 | greycat | loud and typoed :( |
| 18:38.36 | McErroneous | ignoring greycat.. |
| 18:38.39 | sZbcE8qNfG | the www one |
| 18:39.02 | blackflow | readonly or perhaps noexec, but then the error message would be about permissions... |
| 18:39.12 | McErroneous | Linux is suffering... that is true.... |
| 18:39.19 | blackflow | SPF: is it a container perhaps? docker? |
| 18:39.26 | SPF | sZbcE8qNfG: no |
| 18:39.32 | SPF | blackflow: no |
| 18:39.56 | blackflow | that doesn't make much sense then |
| 18:40.28 | blackflow | greycat: I read too much comics then, looked like it broke in half, how loud it was :)) |
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| 18:40.54 | dka | I am trying to setup UNIX with LDAP. What package should I use to create home directory ? |
| 18:41.00 | greycat | Sadly, no, it was just a typo. I had an extra letter or two in the middle, tried to remove them, then fat-fingered \ + Enter. |
| 18:41.03 | SPF | blackflow: I found that /var/run points to /run (as symlink) |
| 18:41.14 | blackflow | SPF: that's normal |
| 18:41.51 | blackflow | SPF: can you start apache manually? `apachectl start` |
| 18:42.37 | SPF | blackflow: no, I get the same error as in the paste |
| 18:43.01 | blackflow | can you pastebin it verbatim? that paste was a journald log entry |
| 18:44.23 | SPF | https://paste.debian.net/1041205/ |
| 18:45.01 | greycat | Curious. But it tells you three things to look at next. |
| 18:45.02 | blackflow | eh, that circular dependency there.... |
| 18:45.34 | blackflow | yeah, journalctl was pasteed and the error log is supposedly empty |
| 18:45.45 | greycat | that was before this manual attempt, though |
| 18:45.58 | sZbcE8qNfG | can apache2 write to tmpfs? |
| 18:46.12 | greycat | if the owner/perms permit it, sure |
| 18:46.17 | blackflow | SPF: try this `APACHE_STARTED_BY_SYSTEMD=true apachectl start` |
| 18:46.18 | sZbcE8qNfG | i've seen this error before when I tried to run it too a long time back |
| 18:46.38 | blackflow | greycat: it's stupid circular dep. apachectl invokes systemctl which invokes..... apachectl..... but with that env var |
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| 18:46.55 | greycat | I saw that part, but didn't trace it any further. |
| 18:47.07 | Scriptonaut | does anyone know how to make ssh-agent not expire/timeout? It seems to timeout by default after a few hours |
| 18:47.19 | blackflow | I swear these systemd service files in debian are borderline moronic. circular deps, nginx using start-stop-daemon, uwsgi is a mess.... who is writing those things.... |
| 18:47.28 | greycat | Scriptonaut: that has not been my experience |
| 18:47.31 | SPF | blackflow: it only says AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message |
| 18:47.55 | blackflow | SPF: but is it started? ps axu | grep apache shows stuff? |
| 18:48.29 | SPF | blackflow: oh yes, it's started now |
| 18:48.37 | Scriptonaut | greycat: I don't know why it's doing it. I run ssh-agent, and then ssh-add, and a few hours later when I try to push to a git repo or something it will give me access denied (publickey). Then I run ssh-add again and it works |
| 18:48.42 | greycat | Scriptonaut: ssh-agent(1) says "-t life ... Without this option the default maximum lifetime is forever." |
| 18:48.48 | blackflow | SPF: right, so there seems to be a problem with the systemd service, either the unit file or something else |
| 18:49.03 | Scriptonaut | ya I was just reading that it defaults to forever, something on my machine must be changing the default |
| 18:49.20 | greycat | Scriptonaut: also points to a config setting in sshd_config but doesn't give the name of it |
| 18:49.27 | Scriptonaut | ah ok, I'll check that out |
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| 18:49.57 | blackflow | SPF: in a bare stretch VM, default install, apache starts fine fwiw. So it must be something about your config there, but I'm guessing not apache config, something else. |
| 18:50.37 | greycat | I keep thinking it's not config, but some sort of missing/corrupted file (e.g. when I asked about /usr/sbin/apache2 existing) |
| 18:50.41 | SPF | blackflow: is it something you can strace? |
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| 18:50.45 | blackflow | greycat: or that yes. |
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| 18:52.13 | SPF | the reason I rebooted was because I had a lot of stuck CLOSE_WAIT connections that wouldn't go away |
| 18:52.33 | blackflow | that's not abnomral |
| 18:52.35 | blackflow | *abnormal |
| 18:54.16 | blackflow | SPF: so wait, it worked fine until you rebooted and then started complaining like this? |
| 18:54.28 | blackflow | apache I mean, the service, you could start it and it worked. |
| 18:54.29 | SPF | blackflow: yes |
| 18:54.56 | blackflow | any updates occurred since you last started the service and reboot? |
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| 18:55.23 | SPF | I don't reboot very often, the last reboot was after my upgrade to debian 9 |
| 18:56.03 | SPF | I can always try to purge apache2 and reinstall |
| 18:56.10 | blackflow | so there could be plenty of updates you never moderated? |
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| 18:56.22 | greycat | oh, if you haven't actually started apache2 *successfully* since upgrading jessie->stretch then it could indeed be a config issue |
| 18:56.44 | SPF | after upgrade after reboot, apache2 was working normally |
| 18:57.10 | SPF | but I do update the apache2 config from time to time |
| 18:57.10 | greycat | So... you upgraded, rebooted, it was working, then you rebooted a second time, and now it's not? |
| 18:57.18 | SPF | greycat: exactly |
| 18:57.21 | blackflow | I don't think the problem is in apache, but sure, you could try purge and reinstall. |
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| 18:57.49 | blackflow | btw is this a live server on the public internet, or something you test or develop on? |
| 18:58.03 | SPF | it's a test environment |
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| 18:58.29 | jelly | SPF: CLOSE_WAIT is probably a symptom, not a cause |
| 18:58.59 | SPF | jelly: well actually the amount of CLOSE_WAIT was fixed |
| 18:59.13 | SPF | normally it varies a lot, I keep statistics of that |
| 19:00.31 | SPF | both tcp and udp, tcp was fixed at 150 connections and udp at 20 |
| 19:00.57 | jelly | SPF: 150 is the default amount of apache workers |
| 19:01.31 | jelly | next time strace one or two and see why/where they're stuck |
| 19:01.57 | SPF | ok |
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| 19:02.53 | C00kie | Hi there :-) |
| 19:03.09 | SPF | blackflow: thanks for the systemd workaround |
| 19:03.19 | jelly | so all the threads (or processes, depending on mpm used) got stuck and did not close the tcp connection properly, and the parent got to the limit and did not create more |
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| 19:03.38 | C00kie | Can someone help me with fail2ban and "postfix sasl authentication failure"? :-) |
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| 19:04.36 | jelly | C00kie: does fail2ban fail to ban? |
| 19:04.44 | blackflow | badum-tss. |
| 19:04.47 | jhutchins_wk | <cough>2.4</cough> |
| 19:04.56 | jelly | I'll be here all weekend! |
| 19:04.57 | C00kie | Yes, the regex works but there is no ban |
| 19:05.08 | jelly | C00kie: how did you verify it worked? |
| 19:05.34 | C00kie | fail2ban-regex /var/log/mail.warn /etc/fail2ban/filter.d/postfix-sasl.conf |
| 19:05.45 | C00kie | Lines: 58317 lines, 0 ignored, 28705 matched, 29612 missed |
| 19:06.21 | blackflow | SPF: any hints in dmesg or journal from previous boot, about disk or I/O issues? grep -i "blocked for more than 120" in /var/log/messages* |
| 19:06.24 | jelly | I'd suggest using /var/log/mail.log, and disabling .warn .err and .info, but that's not the cause |
| 19:07.13 | C00kie | Ok, could you tell me how to change all to mail.log? |
| 19:07.43 | C00kie | i think i have to edit /etc/rsyslog.conf |
| 19:08.21 | C00kie | but i dont know what i exactly have to change . |
| 19:08.21 | SPF | blackflow: no I/O issues, dont' see anything strange in dmesg, no blocked in messages |
| 19:08.31 | jelly | C00kie: and you enabled [postfix-sasl] jail in /etc/fail2ban/jail.local ? |
| 19:08.41 | SPF | blackflow: what do you mean with journal? |
| 19:08.52 | C00kie | yes |
| 19:09.05 | jelly | C00kie: oh just comment out those entries with # and reload the rsyslog service |
| 19:09.24 | beardy | To .err is human. |
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| 19:09.55 | C00kie | k i'll do it |
| 19:10.11 | blackflow | SPF: the systemd journal? maybe dmesg won't show (as it's since last boot) but might've been logged for previous boot. |
| 19:10.37 | blackflow | SPF: worker procs stalling, mysterious "not found" situations, smells like filesystem/disk issues. seen it. |
| 19:11.14 | jelly | C00kie: wait, is it [sasl] or [postfix-sasl] jail, which version of the package? dpkg -l fail2ban |
| 19:11.19 | SPF | blackflow: I only looked at dmesg before rebooting, there was nothing suspisious there |
| 19:11.38 | jelly | C00kie: dpkg -l fail2ban | tail -n1, just the last line |
| 19:12.35 | C00kie | ii fail2ban 0.8.13-1 all ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors |
| 19:13.00 | blackflow | SPF: dmesg is kernel ring buffer, you'd have to check persistent logs from previous boots |
| 19:13.19 | C00kie | i commented out but mail.log is still empty |
| 19:13.47 | jelly | ,v fail2ban |
| 19:13.48 | judd | Package: fail2ban on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; wheezy-security: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; jessie: 0.8.13-1; stretch: 0.9.6-2; buster: 0.10.2-2; sid: 0.10.2-2 |
| 19:13.52 | blackflow | SPF: /var/log/syslog* as it could've been rotated out. use zgrep for those |
| 19:15.00 | jelly | C00kie: okay, is there a line looking like "mail.* -/var/log/mail.log" in /etc/rsyslog.conf ? |
| 19:15.10 | jelly | or without the - |
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| 19:16.27 | C00kie | yes |
| 19:16.52 | C00kie | with the - |
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| 19:17.09 | jelly | then all logs from postfix ought to go there |
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| 19:17.33 | greycat | you reloaded rsyslog after editing the file, right? |
| 19:17.45 | C00kie | yes |
| 19:17.47 | C00kie | your right |
| 19:17.54 | C00kie | this file -/var/log/maillog gets filled |
| 19:18.23 | jelly | ought to be /var/log/mail.log with a . on Debian (and without a - ) |
| 19:18.24 | C00kie | i saw it with tail -f |
| 19:18.39 | C00kie | can i cange ith to the version with the . ? |
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| 19:19.39 | greycat | It's your computer. You can change whatever you like. |
| 19:19.57 | jelly | something changed it to /var/log/maillog, that's not default on Debian. So you can change it, but you might have something else on your system expecting the non-default path. |
| 19:20.03 | C00kie | I've chaged it in the rsyslog.conf to /var/log/mail.log |
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| 19:20.50 | C00kie | Ok, now the correct log gets filled |
| 19:20.59 | C00kie | now its time to get fail2ban worked |
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| 19:22.45 | SPF | blackflow: I looked at the logs, but I didn't find anything out of the ordinary |
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| 19:24.21 | SPF | I could do a more thorough analysis, but that would take more time |
| 19:24.25 | C00kie | jelly, ill upload to pastebin my jail.local |
| 19:24.40 | blackflow | SPF: sorry then, not sure what else to check. you could try (re)starting the service again, and pastebin full journal, last, say, 50 entries. |
| 19:24.44 | blackflow | SPF: journalctl -n 50 |
| 19:26.53 | SPF | blackflow: systemctl still says apache2 is not started, should I kill it first and then try to start via systemctl? |
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| 19:27.43 | jelly | C00kie: and jail.conf if you edited it, as well |
| 19:27.47 | blackflow | SPF: no, I wanted to see full journal log around that time, for normal service operation. |
| 19:28.22 | C00kie | nope jail.conf is untouched |
| 19:28.24 | C00kie | https://pastebin.com/pPs31dhj |
| 19:28.41 | jelly | C00kie: and output of "fail2ban-client status" for sanity |
| 19:29.03 | C00kie | Status |- Number of jail: 3 `- Jail list: postfix, sasl, ssh |
| 19:30.20 | SPF | blackflow: there's nothing written to journal matching *apache* while apache2 was started using workaround |
| 19:30.49 | jelly | C00kie: so the right one is called [sasl] on jessie as well. You can disable the [postfix] one and let's see why the right one does not work |
| 19:30.58 | C00kie | k |
| 19:31.28 | blackflow | SPF: can you pastebin the entire journal, no matches, no filters? last say 50 entries with -n 50 |
| 19:31.45 | blackflow | SPF: in particular I'm curious if anything else is logged before that "file not found" |
| 19:31.49 | SPF | blackflow: it's much bigger than that |
| 19:32.02 | C00kie | Status |- Number of jail: 2 `- Jail list: sasl, ssh |
| 19:32.13 | jelly | okay |
| 19:32.28 | jelly | C00kie: care to paste some grep 'SASL LOGIN authentication failed:' /var/log/maiol |
| 19:32.31 | jelly | argh. |
| 19:32.33 | SPF | -n 1000 will capture all lines since apache2 manual start |
| 19:32.38 | jelly | C00kie: care to paste some grep 'SASL LOGIN authentication failed:' /var/log/mail.log |
| 19:33.01 | blackflow | SPF: I don't care about that, only about logs created between you hit <enter> and that error messge came out |
| 19:33.06 | blackflow | if there are any |
| 19:33.18 | jelly | or even grep 'SASL .* authentication failed:' /var/log/mail.log |
| 19:33.27 | C00kie | https://pastebin.com/sPup3q3h |
| 19:34.43 | SPF | blackflow: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f15ae9dc/ |
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| 19:36.58 | jelly | C00kie: well that looks about the same as mine |
| 19:37.12 | jelly | same IP addresses even |
| 19:37.20 | blackflow | SPF: first of all, move that ssh to a nonstandard port asap and disable password authentication completely. second, yeah there's nothing else there relevant. I'm sorry I have no idea what could be wrong. I don't think it's apache. third..... that _is_ a public server, so consider not running one until you're familiar with all the important parts of it. |
| 19:37.26 | C00kie | lol |
| 19:37.57 | jelly | C00kie: what does "uname -a" say, is this a physical system, a VM or a physical machine? |
| 19:38.15 | C00kie | its a (v)root from netcup.de |
| 19:38.30 | C00kie | Linux preiss.network 3.16.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.51-3+deb8u1 (2018-01-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 19:39.02 | jelly | that vaguely looks as if you have a full VM or a paravirtualized one but are controlling the kernel |
| 19:39.13 | C00kie | yes i do :-) |
| 19:39.13 | jelly | and thus, can have iptables working |
| 19:39.32 | C00kie | ip tables is working :-) |
| 19:39.32 | jelly | C00kie: what does "iptables-save" say? |
| 19:40.04 | C00kie | i have big ip tables script that works flawless :-D |
| 19:40.24 | C00kie | u never wanna see this oputput xD |
| 19:40.33 | SPF | blackflow: you mean use rsa only? |
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| 19:41.14 | C00kie | https://pastebin.com/DfDYzUge |
| 19:41.34 | jelly | C00kie: http://paste.debian.net/1041224/ # just as a comparison. Mine blocked |
| 19:41.45 | blackflow | SPF: yes pubkeys only. |
| 19:41.52 | jelly | -A fail2ban-sasl -s 181.214.206.84/32 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable |
| 19:41.53 | C00kie | hm... |
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| 19:42.10 | C00kie | after changing all to mail.log an deactivating postfix it seems to wirk now |
| 19:42.13 | blackflow | a waste of icmp :) |
| 19:42.24 | C00kie | *work |
| 19:42.59 | C00kie | -A fail2ban-sasl -s 181.214.206.84/32 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable -A fail2ban-sasl -s 181.214.206.87/32 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable |
| 19:43.08 | jelly | C00kie: yes, it looks like it works |
| 19:43.19 | C00kie | i don't know why but it works. |
| 19:43.23 | C00kie | Thanks a lot :-) |
| 19:43.31 | jelly | perhaps it reads the right log |
| 19:43.36 | SPF | blackflow: I do disable root ssh access, and use fail2ban with 24h ban. regarding the port, I visited many premises where port 22 was one of the few ports allowed |
| 19:43.41 | C00kie | i think so |
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| 19:43.48 | jelly | !win C00kie |
| 19:43.48 | dpkg | Congratulations, C00kie! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 19:44.02 | jelly | that's... strangely appropriate. |
| 19:44.17 | C00kie | Thank you very much for your help. :-) |
| 19:44.26 | C00kie | i ve sitting here 4 hours |
| 19:44.35 | C00kie | and the solution is so easy xD |
| 19:44.53 | C00kie | There logfiles drives me crazy |
| 19:45.00 | C00kie | *These |
| 19:45.22 | jelly | it would be better if you figured out what changed the path for mail.* log file in the first place |
| 19:45.59 | C00kie | I dont have to do this. I'll move to new hardware nex week xD |
| 19:46.21 | C00kie | then time for fresh install xD |
| 19:46.24 | jelly | maybe it's your provider's crazy template. Maybe you have some sort of weird control panel software that absolutely relies on redhattish maillog without a dot |
| 19:46.48 | jelly | oh well then |
| 19:46.58 | C00kie | xD |
| 19:50.04 | C00kie | jelly, I wish you a nice evening and thank you again. :-) |
| 19:51.10 | jelly | cheers |
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| 20:17.51 | roylaprattep | spamd[22698]: pyzor: check failed: internal error, python traceback seen in response |
| 20:18.12 | roylaprattep | Someone can help me with that? I am strugling since a long time with this error. |
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| 20:37.27 | annadane | roylaprattep, can you give us some context, like what are you doing when you get that message |
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| 20:39.25 | annadane | found this, your mileage may vary https://sourceforge.net/p/pyzor/mailman/message/32786667/ |
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| 20:46.44 | roylaprattep | annadane: Found the solution, thank you! Permission error. |
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| 21:13.45 | C00kie | time to go. have a nice evening |
| 21:13.47 | C00kie | :-) |
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| 21:37.05 | Akuw | is there documentation about recovery mode, procedures to recover a debian boot problem, or disaster recovery |
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| 21:38.24 | EdePopede | is there a newer live disc than 9.5 (files in /boot from the day after independence day)? just curious if they changed something around lockscreen and user password. just had to google it again... |
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| 21:40.07 | Tenkawa | Anyone know much about the realtek rtsx_usb driver that likes to corrupt microsd cards ? |
| 21:41.01 | EdePopede | Akuw: depends on the problem. non working passwords -> change with root, non working root password -> login directly into root shell, damaged fs on the partition -> 2 of the tools from gr security helped me out on 2 different occasions (worked on the copy of an dd image of course) |
| 21:41.15 | Tenkawa | (contents... not the card itself of course) |
| 21:42.44 | Tenkawa | even mounting read only you cant read the data (on a fat/exfat/ntfs filesystem) although soon as you reboot it to win10 or use the card on another machine the data is still there |
| 21:43.30 | Tenkawa | if it gets mounted read write or fsck'ed then its hit/miss if it even survives at all |
| 21:43.43 | Tenkawa | (in linux) |
| 21:44.16 | Tenkawa | i've read a lot of complaints about this driver in general |
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| 22:15.41 | ecbrown | i am trying to install debian hurd on a pentium 4. it uses the debian installer. my problem is that the network card is proprietary -- not recognized. it seems i'm blocked from proceding due to no network interface. can i bypass this step and just install what is on the CD? |
| 22:16.50 | ecbrown | i think i observed this problem too when i tried to install stretch |
| 22:17.57 | BlackHornet | ecbrown : Hi, if you're not using a network CD install it's normally possible (i think), but if you're using a network instalation it's not possible |
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| 22:21.53 | ecbrown | BlackHornet: thanks |
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| 22:24.28 | Akuw | i am in rescue mode, but when i try to mount one partition on th list "An error ocurred while mounting the device..." |
| 22:24.40 | Akuw | i cant mount any |
| 22:26.45 | rydare | Akuw: you probably have to run fsck on the device |
| 22:27.11 | rydare | do you know what the drive patch is? /dev/sd* |
| 22:29.06 | rydare | drive path* |
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| 23:08.34 | smither | Hi. I am having an issue with my sound. I am running debian 9 with Gnome 3 desktop. I set my soundcard to Digital Stereo Output and now I can't change it back to what it used to be and can't find a way to reset the sound settings to their default. I have tried unplugging and replugging the headphones and rebooting, and it stays on DigitalStereo which doesn't output any sound. How do I force reset the sound settings in Gnome? |
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| 23:22.07 | everdred | Hi all. Is anyone else running Testing and having dependency issues related to libgconf2-4? |
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| 23:29.52 | Akuw | rydare: the linux OS is ok |
| 23:30.02 | Akuw | rydare: it has no problem |
| 23:30.18 | rydare | what's your problem? |
| 23:30.40 | Akuw | i just wanna run recovery mode for learning purpose |
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| 23:36.06 | Akuw | rydare: just that |
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