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| 16:47.21 | EdePopede | argh. a client AND a toolkit? |
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| 16:53.11 | rydare | ARGH just made my textbox blue ;_; |
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| 16:57.21 | EdePopede | did i do that? |
| 17:00.19 | rydare | lol no i'm editing the gtk-3.0.css |
| 17:00.40 | rydare | trying to figure out which value is the selected |
| 17:00.50 | rydare | maybe i'll try restarting polari, as i am loathe to do |
| 17:01.30 | ashleyk__ | rydare, sounds fun |
| 17:01.33 | rydare | oh wow it remembered the passwords |
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| 17:01.47 | rydare | and reconnected most servers right away |
| 17:01.50 | jasabella | why dont you take a screenshot and use eyedrop tool to look for the color string to seach? |
| 17:02.28 | rydare | right now the background colour appears to be the same as my background |
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| 17:19.27 | mason | jhutchins_wk: FWIW, I'm having a time of it trying to shim wpa_supplicant into the bridging process with ifupdown, and so far it's winning. Doing it for real by hand might be the option, but I'll give it a try with NM too to see if it compartmentalizes it better. |
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| 17:26.31 | mason | jhutchins_wk: And... It seems that NM doesn't have a way to express a connection type that's both "wifi" and "bridge-slave". |
| 17:26.47 | mason | I think at this point I'll give up and only have a bridge while on the wired interface. :) |
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| 18:17.34 | ashleyk__ | enabling ifplugd adds 3 minutes to boot time |
| 18:18.02 | ashleyk__ | kind of annoying |
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| 18:23.02 | ashleyk__ | i guess i would have to use a dhclient hook |
| 18:24.11 | greycat | I'm fairly sure that's the correct approach. |
| 18:24.25 | ashleyk__ | got a link? |
| 18:24.39 | greycat | https://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress has a simplistic example |
| 18:25.14 | ashleyk__ | ok |
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| 19:16.15 | Iarfen | hi! |
| 19:16.27 | Iarfen | apart from installing it, what more I need to do to use xrdp? |
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| 19:28.54 | Iarfen | ntd: what's the difference with xrdp and xfreerdp? |
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| 19:46.27 | jhutchins_wk | Iarfen: Read the docs, configure it. |
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| 19:59.52 | JyZyXEL | how do i apt-get install old versions of a packages that aren't in my apt cache anymore? |
| 20:00.29 | greycat | If it's still in the mirrors, you just --reinstall. If it's no longer in the mirrors, you may have to download it manually from snapshot. |
| 20:01.25 | JyZyXEL | i tried: sudo apt-get install libegl1-mesa=17.3.9-1 libgl1-mesa-dri=17.3.9-1 libglapi-mesa=17.3.9-1 libgles2-mesa=17.3.9-1 libglx-mesa0=17.3.9-1 libosmesa6=17.3.9-1 libwayland-egl1-mesa=17.3.9-1 mesa-va-drivers=17.3.9-1 |
| 20:02.16 | JyZyXEL | how would i do the apt-get from a snapshot? |
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| 20:04.20 | JyZyXEL | come to think of it, does stretch-backports even have snapshots? |
| 20:05.36 | greycat | !snapshot |
| 20:05.36 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 20:07.44 | JyZyXEL | i could temporarily change the entry in my sources.list to a snapshot.. i don't know if a more elegant solution exists? |
| 20:08.12 | greycat | download the god damned .deb file by hand and stop fucking up your computer by trying to be clever |
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| 20:15.25 | mspe | does somebody use lxc here? I think I might have found a bug with lxc-create for stretch |
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| 20:16.35 | annadane | it |
| 20:16.48 | annadane | it's reasonably known. if you describe it we can tell you whether to file a bug or not |
| 20:16.59 | annadane | !anyone |
| 20:17.00 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 20:19.07 | mspe | sorry; I clearly remember using both file and http protocols in jessie, but when I used lxc-create today at work with stretch, crashes when I use file protocol, but works well through http serving those exact same mirrors |
| 20:19.49 | mspe | it pretends not finding stretch release in the mirror, but works well when I use http |
| 20:21.47 | mspe | âInvalid release stretch (not found in mirror)â |
| 20:23.32 | mspe | if I use the same file:/ url directly with debootstrap, it works seamlessly |
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| 20:47.27 | inquisitiv3 | How do I reply to a mail thread on debian-user? I haven't subscribed to the list and would like to reply to a mail that hasn't been sent to me personally. |
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| 20:48.55 | annadane | lists.debian.org where all the threads are has 2 options - reply to user on list and off list |
| 20:49.05 | annadane | (you should probably use on list) |
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| 20:50.06 | annadane | oh sorry and a third option which is to reply to the thread in general |
| 20:50.33 | inquisitiv3 | Found it! Thanks! |
| 20:50.44 | annadane | which i assume is the default one should use |
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| 21:30.23 | misirk85 | hi all, i see join only for register users :) |
| 21:30.56 | misirk85 | imo its not good for new user irc & debian |
| 21:31.29 | misirk85 | but never mind , i have question about tar |
| 21:31.32 | annadane | freenode has had spam |
| 21:31.40 | misirk85 | ohh ;/ |
| 21:31.46 | misirk85 | now i see |
| 21:31.54 | misirk85 | sad |
| 21:32.08 | annadane | though actually i don't know whether that applies to #debian |
| 21:32.10 | annadane | anyway, yes, tar? |
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| 21:33.49 | misirk85 | yes :) is it possibile to check tar file integrity after long storage without primary control sum? |
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| 21:34.03 | misirk85 | i read on net about -tvvf |
| 21:34.29 | annadane | don't know, maybe someone else does, hang around a while |
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| 21:36.38 | misirk85 | sure, i also read about unpack to null, and wait for error, if archiwe was damaged |
| 21:36.53 | annadane | my intuitive feeling is if the original sum is missing it's very hard to check integrity of anything... |
| 21:37.13 | annadane | that's kind of the point |
| 21:38.21 | misirk85 | yes, i was talking about this issue on fb group, and guys told me tar it is simple format without service integrity check etc |
| 21:39.00 | annadane | well, maybe. i guess it really depends on the files in question |
| 21:39.53 | annadane | i don't know enough about tar to state one way or another with 100% certainty that you can't use checksums on it |
| 21:40.03 | annadane | i'll shut up now and let someone else answer |
| 21:40.36 | ashleyk | it will error if its corrupted unless someone corrupted it in a specific way on purpose |
| 21:40.47 | ashleyk | which would probably be complicated |
| 21:41.59 | misirk85 | so i should not trust tar format when i dont have primary control sum? |
| 21:43.43 | annadane | i mean, the point of using hashes and checksums is to be able to validate, and we don't know where you found this tar, just that you stated it's been lying around for a few years, and we don't know what it is, but it would tend to defeat the point of security if you had something there in the first place and now no longer have it |
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| 21:44.09 | annadane | that's just in my opinion, i could be wrong |
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| 21:46.46 | annadane | it's a generic question concerning a tar file you have on your computer lying around, it depends on what it is, how important it is to you, what's your threat model, and so on |
| 21:46.47 | misirk85 | i would like make pack my personal data to tar and store for long time, and i think what is better clean tar or tar.xz or 7z, and i collect information and opinion about this file formats |
| 21:47.36 | annadane | oh, so it's not an existing tar? you're asking how to make your own and set up something to validate? |
| 21:47.55 | annadane | that's a different question, then |
| 21:48.21 | annadane | sorry, i may have assumed a little bit |
| 21:48.36 | annadane | anyone else know enough about the tar format to answer misirk85? |
| 21:48.36 | misirk85 | i have previous tar, 60 GB and unpack its right but i dont check all files and i thing about future |
| 21:49.15 | annadane | right. if there was some kind of security and the thing to check it is no longer there then it'd defeat the point of ever having it |
| 21:50.21 | ashleyk | nothing to do with security |
| 21:50.42 | annadane | this is from 8 years ago, but https://serverfault.com/questions/120582/creating-a-tar-file-with-checksums-included |
| 21:50.47 | ashleyk | its integrity |
| 21:50.51 | annadane | well, personal security, security of data |
| 21:50.55 | annadane | integirty, right |
| 21:51.14 | ashleyk | tar is going to extract fine unless you corrupt it |
| 21:51.32 | annadane | OH. right. i'm so sorry. |
| 21:51.35 | ashleyk | dont even use an archive if you are worried about corruption though |
| 21:51.37 | annadane | yeah, ashley's right |
| 21:52.27 | ashleyk | you can use an archive if you have it stored on redundant storage i guess |
| 21:52.39 | ashleyk | otherwise you have a single point of failure being the corruption of the tar file |
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| 21:54.40 | misirk85 | ashley yes i see, summarizing i can pack when i make redundant storage only |
| 21:54.50 | misirk85 | thank you :) |
| 21:55.08 | annadane | misirk85, and i'm sorry for perhaps misunderstanding the question |
| 21:55.43 | misirk85 | it is my fault, i was imprecise |
| 21:56.05 | misirk85 | sorry for that |
| 21:56.38 | foul_owl | Is there a password manager like glipper but with sticky entries? |
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| 21:58.44 | ashleyk | foul_owl, https://alternativeto.net/software/glipper/ |
| 21:58.53 | ashleyk | learn to duckduckgo :p |
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| 22:14.08 | foul_owl | Unfortunately, the feature I'm looking for is not easily searchable. |
| 22:14.44 | foul_owl | That's why I asked here |
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| 22:20.18 | daviid | hello, i was wiling to talk to dbian-next |
| 22:20.40 | daviid | anyway, quick quiz |
| 22:20.55 | daviid | the following dd command systematically fails |
| 22:21.22 | daviid | sudo dd if=firmware-buster-DI-alpha3-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M; sync |
| 22:21.32 | foul_owl | Ok, so copyq has the feature, but they don't call it "stick" they call it "pin" |
| 22:21.37 | foul_owl | Problem solved, thank you :) |
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| 22:23.22 | annadane | daviid, #debian-next is on the irc.oftc.net server |
| 22:23.38 | annadane | daviid, also, how does it fail? |
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| 22:24.19 | daviid | ah, actually i am in rescue mode here, had a problem yeterday, and trying to solve, running a lve ubuntu (from my neighbour) |
| 22:24.50 | daviid | so, no emacs, no config ... then I thought using https://webchat.freenode.net/ |
| 22:24.54 | daviid | here am I ?) |
| 22:25.03 | annadane | so you... can't boot in? |
| 22:25.21 | daviid | oh, and now I asked, tit did succeed!! it failed saying 1 byte was missing |
| 22:25.51 | annadane | generally, unless you want to test the installer, the best way to use testing is to upgrade from a minimal stable install, less potential problems that way |
| 22:25.54 | daviid | annadane: yes I can`t bot it anymore, but I see running ths live ubuntu the SSD is ok (it seems at least) |
| 22:26.28 | daviid | so I sepnd a few hours now makng back-up and installing this image on my stivk to try to revover |
| 22:27.36 | daviid | now, when I boot, no mre grub, and the screen start to flash, for ever |
| 22:27.46 | annadane | for... debian testing? |
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| 22:28.05 | daviid | annadane: yes, i run testing, in this cse buster |
| 22:28.29 | annadane | the proper channel for it is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, they might be able to help better |
| 22:28.49 | annadane | if you can get to that network, not sure how feasible it is, irssi irc client is a good way of doing it without a gui |
| 22:28.53 | daviid | yesterday, the laptop freezed, I had to hard push the switch on/off button, then it would not reboot anymore |
| 22:29.09 | daviid | the boot record is lost (I guess) |
| 22:29.43 | annadane | seems like a rather severe problem to have in testing, i never even had that much trouble with sid |
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| 22:30.42 | daviid | annadane: I don`t thnk I can chat using the web, but actually, rescue to install grub and a boot record should be `similar` |
| 22:30.57 | annadane | fair enough, may be able to get help here |
| 22:31.38 | annadane | !fixmbr |
| 22:31.39 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext4 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 22:32.11 | daviid | tx, will try that |
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| 22:34.04 | calimero_82 | hi |
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| 22:41.10 | daviid | annadane: ok, I wrote all these cmd on paper, now I will try to boot the buster image i flashed and first will try the rescue mode ... |
| 22:42.16 | daviid | if that does not work, i`ll reboot the ubuntu live image and try the cmds the bot pasted ... |
| 22:42.39 | daviid | tx |
| 22:42.48 | daviid | leaving now to reboot .. |
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| 23:04.45 | usney | how do you setup a network install? |
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