| 00:00.08 | rant | Lyberta: sounds like you're doing it the hard way and if you're not merely doing this as academic exercise I recommend just installing normally to the thumbdrive using debian-installer its how I made my encrypted system on a usb drive and its much easier |
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| 00:02.11 | rant | actual "live" systems are a PITA anyhow.. its not only harder to set up initially, its harder to change later.. if you just treat the thumbdrive like a normal HDD and install to it from D-I you can just use it like a normal install |
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| 00:09.27 | Lyberta | rant, it looks like I simply didn't enable f2fs module in iniramfs because I see unencrypted block device in iniramfs console |
| 00:09.30 | Lyberta | brb |
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| 00:10.04 | pinkos | does anyone here have an x200? |
| 00:10.27 | pinkos | im trying to find the edid for it |
| 00:10.34 | pinkos | but the get-edid call isnt working |
| 00:11.31 | rant | pinkos: hows it attached to the system? |
| 00:11.49 | pinkos | rant its a laptop panel |
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| 00:12.34 | rant | pinkos: are you sure the LVDS connector is seated right? |
| 00:12.57 | pinkos | yes rant |
| 00:13.03 | rant | I seen that sort of thing a lot with VGA connectors.. sometimes pins get bent or pushed back into the connector.. could cause edid failure or color problems etc.. |
| 00:14.05 | rant | with laptops however its more common the connector just starts to come loose |
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| 00:14.21 | pinkos | rant the colors are okay, they just arent calibrated |
| 00:14.40 | pinkos | red is red, and green is green, etc, but it just needs to be better |
| 00:15.00 | rant | what sort of graphics card do you have? |
| 00:15.20 | pinkos | rant built in intel |
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| 00:19.31 | rant | That digital vibrance crap though is one of many reasons I like nvidia.. makes colors pop in a way that makes all other systems look generic by comparison :P |
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| 00:22.05 | pinkos | is there a gnome-color-manage equicalent for mate |
| 00:22.07 | pinkos | ? |
| 00:22.24 | pinkos | gnome-color-manager equivalent for mate |
| 00:23.29 | awal1 | pinkos aptitude search mate | less and check |
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| 00:33.28 | k-man | has anyone had success installing debian onto 2 drives in raid1 with uefi boot? do i have to manually partition the drives to acheive that? |
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| 00:38.16 | rant | pinkos: this dispcalgui thing seems to be pretty advanced.. might check that out |
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| 00:39.28 | pinkos | yeah iwas looking at that rant but i couldnt find it because it had been renamed to DisplayCAL :) |
| 00:39.31 | pinkos | thanks |
| 00:41.47 | rant | doesnt seem like I can really do anything with it on my system |
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| 00:55.06 | ryan-c | any idea why `apt update` would be running very very slowly? I've tried a couple different mirrors and I have a fast internet connection. |
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| 00:58.21 | ryan-c | Fetched 13.6 MB in 5min 29s (41.3 kB/s) < on a gigabit connection to a mirror that seems fast |
| 00:58.41 | ryan-c | apt upgrade is fast |
| 00:58.41 | apt | ...but upgrade is already something else... |
| 00:58.42 | rant | ryan-c: you in the US? |
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| 00:58.59 | ryan-c | rant: yes |
| 00:59.13 | rant | ryan-c: try mirrors.kernel.org its usually pretty damn quick |
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| 01:01.51 | ryan-c | hmm, i suspect it may just be crawling because I'm using a usb flash drive for my filesystem |
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| 01:02.33 | ryan-c | also / is mounted sync |
| 01:02.56 | rant | yes well updating the db could be the bottleneck |
| 01:03.21 | rant | especially if you know fetching packages from the mirror is quick |
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| 01:04.31 | bug | you can install netselect and run it to find your fastest mirror. |
| 01:05.30 | rant | ,i netselect |
| 01:05.31 | judd | Package netselect (net, optional) in stretch/amd64: speed tester for choosing a fast network server. Version: 0.3.ds1-28+b1; Size: 31.2k; Installed: 69k; Homepage: http://github.com/apenwarr/netselect |
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| 01:07.54 | rant | !netselect-apt |
| 01:07.55 | dpkg | netselect-apt uses <netselect> to determine the fastest Debian mirror respective to your location, then writes a sources.list file for use with <apt>. See also <apt-spy>. |
| 01:08.15 | rant | updated the old deprecated apt-spy factoid to reference this one |
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| 01:16.59 | what_if | I cant get VLC to play my h264 files in my new Debian install. What mackages do I need? Have tried every combination I could find, nothing tho. |
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| 01:17.35 | what_if | error is: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10)) |
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| 01:19.09 | Sir_Designer | sounds like codec is not present. try to download from website? |
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| 01:26.41 | what_if | Sir_Designer: something is goofy, this worked on an older version of debian |
| 01:27.03 | Sir_Designer__ | borked packaging, whasnoo |
| 01:27.16 | what_if | maybe I should install Mint? Is it based on Debian or Ubuntu? |
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| 01:28.01 | what_if | the box I'm working on is going to play videos using VLC, thats its only job :) |
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| 01:30.28 | what_if | ...cuz my workstation laptop drank a Ginger Ale, then got the gremlins... |
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| 01:40.40 | rant | is there any way to get more info on why an app segfaulted after the fact? I never had gimp crash on a system that didnt have a memory leak |
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| 01:42.22 | rant | afaik the only way to do that is to have kernel level accounting or wrap the program in a debugger to catch it during the event |
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| 01:51.41 | gabrielschulhof | Hello! How do I go about installing a debootstrap for armv7? |
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| 01:52.11 | gabrielschulhof | I installed debootstrap --foreign --arch=armel and that's armv4. |
| 01:52.26 | gabrielschulhof | Does armv7 have a different arch name? |
| 01:52.48 | rant | gabrielschulhof: armhf |
| 01:53.04 | rant | iirc.. can verify if you want me to be sure.. |
| 01:53.11 | rant | has a pi |
| 01:53.38 | gabrielschulhof | rant: NP. I'll try armhf. Getting a debootstrap up and running is pretty fast. Thanks! |
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| 01:54.21 | rant | gabrielschulhof: I seem to recall seeing that descrepency of armhf vs arm7l in the infos on my opilite |
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| 01:57.06 | fizzbuzz1 | Anyone know a good irc channel for just chatting? |
| 01:57.48 | annadane | !chat |
| 01:57.48 | dpkg | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:57.59 | rant | fizzbuzz1: not really.. there are plenty of more social channels on here but most of them are either not very friendly, very idle, or have some sort of loose topic |
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| 02:09.29 | gabrielschulhof | rant: armhf appears to be correct. |
| 02:09.50 | rant | gabrielschulhof: I was fairly sure, but I'd have had to check dpkg on the pi to be certain ;) |
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| 02:13.03 | rant | gabrielschulhof: I'm not sure as to the reason for the change in arch names but I would guess it had to do with the fact that so many different hw came out that all had something in common.. like I think the hf is for hard-float which I suppose is the main feature difference which is supported by more than just arm7l |
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| 02:42.00 | gabrielschulhof | How can I get around debootstrap's second stage hanging at "I: Unpacking the base system..." |
| 02:42.03 | gabrielschulhof | ? |
| 02:42.54 | somiaj | gabrielschulhof: is this from the installer or you trying to debootstrap on a running system? |
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| 02:43.33 | gabrielschulhof | somiaj: This is /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage once I'm chrooted into the system. |
| 02:43.34 | Rooot | hello, I got tons of errors installing scipy: https://paste.debian.net/1019831/ |
| 02:43.46 | gabrielschulhof | somiaj: I've mounted /proc and I've copied over /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:44.20 | Rooot | all shown in red starting with 'Exception:' |
| 02:45.01 | gabrielschulhof | somiaj: OK, weird. I suspended the process for a bit, and when I resumed it, it resumed *shrug* |
| 02:45.04 | somiaj | Rooot: any reason you aren't install these from debian packages? |
| 02:45.36 | somiaj | gabrielschulhof: I was going to suggest looking at io trafic next, maybe there was some iowait going on causing the unpacking to pause. |
| 02:46.07 | rant | somiaj: this is a foreign arch debootstrap |
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| 02:46.23 | somiaj | rant: ahh, I missed that. |
| 02:46.34 | gabrielschulhof | somiaj: Yeah, sorry. I didn't mention it. |
| 02:46.42 | gabrielschulhof | somiaj: It's armhf on x86_64. |
| 02:46.51 | gabrielschulhof | ... via qemu-arm-static. |
| 02:47.46 | somiaj | Rooot: but the last error just seems like you had some network problem downloading the file, trying again may work. |
| 02:48.12 | rant | yeah I got no experience on this.. but the 2nd stage I'd imagine requires you actually do it ON the arch.. but the qemu should satisfy that I suppose.. just thought it worth mentioning in debugging |
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| 02:49.00 | Rooot | somiaj, it did, indeed! thank you so much for hinting at it! :) |
| 02:49.18 | somiaj | yea, I guess there could be some other thing pusing, but the unpacking stage makes me wonder still if it was some io issue, though could be the combination of io and the emulation. |
| 02:50.10 | Rooot | somiaj, I tried a second time, and it happened this time with the second download, but then it worked at the third |
| 02:51.10 | somiaj | yea, something either up with your network or the mirror you are pulling teh packages from |
| 02:54.16 | Rooot | somiaj, right, most likely. all done now :) |
| 02:55.04 | Rooot | there is another unusual output I get from 'apt update'; a lot of lines showing duplicates in sources files; https://paste.debian.net/1019832/ |
| 02:55.52 | Rooot | referring to multiple configs in the update repos of main, security and non-free |
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| 02:56.17 | Rooot | it comes at the end of each update |
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| 03:05.38 | somiaj | Rooot: check your /etc/apt/sources.list file and all files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for duplicates |
| 03:10.26 | Rooot | somiaj, I did, but there are only usual repo entries of main, security etc. |
| 03:10.37 | Rooot | nothing duplicate |
| 03:11.28 | somiaj | even inside other files in the directory I pointed at? |
| 03:12.06 | somiaj | though you should maybe share your sources.list file, the warning tell you exactly what lines are multiple |
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| 03:13.12 | Rooot | somiaj, a short search showed that it was not an uncommon error, even with proper source files |
| 03:14.46 | Rooot | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=839259 |
| 03:14.47 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/839259 in libapt-pkg5.0 (closed): «W: Target Contents-deb-legacy (Contents-{amd64, i386, all}) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-09-30; last modified: 2017-10-23. |
| 03:15.25 | somiaj | ahh, well that is good |
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| 03:16.24 | Rooot | but I cant start anything with it, I dont know what to do on my system to fix it |
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| 04:09.15 | Nawab | ,v freeorion |
| 04:09.16 | judd | Package: freeorion on amd64 -- jessie: 0.4.4-2+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 0.4.5-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.4.6-4; stretch-backports: 0.4.7.1-1~bpo9+1; buster: 0.4.7.1-1; sid: 0.4.7.1-1 |
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