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| 00:39.12 | FunkyBob | so, my client needs to build ffmpeg with the GPL and non-free stuff disabled... I was figuring it would save a lot of time/pain to build the DEB once... |
| 00:39.30 | FunkyBob | (a) is there a licensing issue in using the existing debian build files? |
| 00:39.49 | FunkyBob | (b) is there a simple process I can follow for rebuilding the package with a couple of added command lines flags in the configure? |
| 00:41.14 | stmiller | FunkyBob: when I have tried this in the past, it has caused many problems due to the various dependent libraries around ffmpeg and debian :/ |
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| 00:42.21 | FunkyBob | stmiller: interesting |
| 00:42.33 | stmiller | FunkyBob: https://scottlinux.com/2016/09/12/how-to-enable-nvidia-nvenc-for-obs-in-linux/ might be related |
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| 00:43.34 | FunkyBob | thanks |
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| 00:48.16 | VeronicaX111 | Hey guys, quick question. I keep getting a an error loading shared packages "libgfortran.so.1 , no such file or directory found". I'm on debian wheezy. Is this in the libgfortran3 package or somewhere else? |
| 00:48.49 | FunkyBob | stmiller: ah... they already have the custom build working... but it would save a LOT of time if we could package it, instead of building it every deploy :) |
| 00:49.17 | FunkyBob | VeronicaX111: I find it easy to search for files using https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 00:49.29 | FunkyBob | it has a "Search the contenst of packages" form |
| 00:51.17 | VeronicaX111 | FunkyBob: So that's what I was thinking. It's a shame that there are no results :) |
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| 01:13.54 | annadane | if it's in wheezy i wouldn't be surprised if it's been deprecated |
| 01:14.05 | annadane | @ VeronicaX111 |
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| 01:14.26 | annadane | that's not really an answer though because i don't know for sure |
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| 01:49.44 | vegenaise | test test, anyone see this? |
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| 01:51.26 | annadane | vegenaise, yes |
| 01:51.36 | vegenaise | thx annadane :) |
| 01:51.51 | paqcito | Hi. I've been learning linux for a month now. It was kinda hard for me to understand all the cron files and directories, I think I did now, but still haven't figured out the differences between /etc/cron and /etc/cron.d. I gloogled a lot already before coming here. |
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| 01:53.32 | eventhorizon | paqcito: do you mean /etc/crontab and /etc/cron.d? The crontab one lists cron entries in a single file, and the cron.d one allows you to have a configuration file for each cron entry |
| 01:55.05 | paqcito | eventhorizon: You mean a configuration file by a sort of "cron file" for each cron entry? |
| 01:55.38 | paqcito | eventhorizon: that's what I see in there. A file with only one line with the same syntax used by cron files |
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| 01:56.05 | GiveMeTheWarez | excuse me, i am looking for the warez |
| 01:56.21 | eventhorizon | paqcito: yeah, basically what the cron app does is use /etc/crontab and also every file in /etc/cron.d |
| 01:56.49 | paqcito | eventhorizon: Thanks, man! |
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| 01:57.38 | GiveMeTheWarez | excuse me, i am looking for the warez |
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| 01:58.17 | vegenaise | did u try google? |
| 01:58.41 | GiveMeTheWarez | vegenaise: yeah it sent me to IRC |
| 01:58.50 | GiveMeTheWarez | said thats where warez are at |
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| 01:59.37 | vegenaise | sorry for feeding the troll :/ |
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| 02:04.18 | tsuyubo | hello, |
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| 02:05.35 | tsuyubo | i know my question should not to ask here, but qemu people does not response me |
| 02:06.05 | hugin_munin | hello, every external drive that is mounted is only ever read only. How can I fix this? it is every drive. I can unmount and reformat but even that doesn't allow me to write to external drives even as root |
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| 02:07.03 | annadane | qemu is in debian so you can probably ask here |
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| 02:07.25 | tsuyubo | ok, thanks |
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| 02:08.07 | tsuyubo | i type "qemu-system-x86_64 -kernel path-to-bzImage -initrd path-to-initrd.cpio -append "root=/dev/ram0 rootfstype=ramfs init=init console=ttyS0" -net nic,model=rtl8139 -net user -net dump -nographic |
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| 02:09.26 | tsuyubo | but qemu report: ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device |
| 02:09.57 | tsuyubo | i want to use ssh login in it |
| 02:11.12 | tsuyubo | when install qemu, should i configure relative things? |
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| 02:11.53 | somiaj | tsuyubo: if you use libvirt as a front end to this, it will set up a virtual network for the vms. |
| 02:12.19 | somiaj | virsh is a nice command line tool that allows management of vms using kvm-qemu vms (and others if desired) |
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| 02:13.39 | paqcito | I had a cron job which isnt working, it was created as a root user, doing crontab -e, 30 02 * * * service NAMEOFASERVICE restart. Some clue? |
| 02:14.02 | somiaj | cron has not $PATH Configured when it is rune. Use the full path to the service command |
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| 02:14.15 | somiaj | though with systemd, systemctl is a nicer tool to be using. |
| 02:14.24 | tsuyubo | somiaj: Thank you very much! What you said is new to me:),but you give me a hit and i will google it |
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| 02:16.56 | paqcito | somiaj: Gotcha. Thanks. |
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| 02:22.17 | paqcito | somiaj: Gotta be something like /usr/sbin/service NAMESERVICE restart? Is there any way I can avoid this? |
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| 02:23.03 | somiaj | in general you don't want to. If you are writting a script for like /etc/cron.daily or something, then you can define a PATH in the script to use. But in crontab like you have it, just get use to writting full paths. |
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| 02:26.45 | hugin_munin | hi... i am semi-noob. but this is driving me crazy... Every external drive can only be mounted read only, even with sudo. I can unmount and reformat but even that doesn't allow me to write to external drives even as root. Please, I am totally lost. I need some help |
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| 02:28.20 | paqcito | somiaj: thanks. I'll take your advice |
| 02:30.45 | hugin_munin | please, i need some help. I have been trying everything I know, but I am at a dead end |
| 02:35.24 | themill | hugin_munin: what is the output of "mount"? What does dmesg say after you mount it? |
| 02:35.30 | themill | (how exactly do you mount it) |
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| 02:36.17 | hugin_munin | themill, i usually let them automount |
| 02:36.57 | hugin_munin | one moment |
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| 02:41.40 | annadane | actually on the subject of mount, what do people use to determine what the usb is? (not lsusb and lsblk, i mean the suggestion where you plug it in and watch the log) |
| 02:41.44 | annadane | is that journalctl? |
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| 02:42.20 | themill | assumes that would work too |
| 02:42.21 | hugin_munin | i got it!!! this pos filemanager is just dumb |
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| 02:43.23 | annadane | it doesn't really matter, i've just seen it as a suggestion somewhere and i was wondering if people remember the specific thing i'm referencing |
| 02:43.49 | somiaj | annadane: I just look at dmesg, it will be the last thing the kernel spit out. |
| 02:44.03 | annadane | oh, dmesg. that could well be it |
| 02:44.04 | somiaj | annadane: though with systemd you can see dmesg and more with journalctl |
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| 02:44.12 | annadane | right |
| 02:44.29 | somiaj | but dmesg | tail -n 15 or so will give you the last thing the kernel did |
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| 02:47.01 | annadane | yes but i mean a real time monitoring situation |
| 02:47.06 | annadane | which is, of course, journalctl -f |
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| 02:48.13 | somiaj | Ive seen various setups where people output dmesg to a console or piece of their desktop |
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| 02:51.26 | tw | like xconsole? |
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| 04:30.43 | vyrux | how to solve issue --The following packages have unmet dependencies?? |
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| 04:31.14 | vyrux | try to troubleshoot but didn't see any change |
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| 04:37.08 | FunkyBob | vyrux: apt-get install -f ? |
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| 04:45.17 | vyrux | had progress try to fixes this using aptitude instead of using apt-get |
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| 05:24.40 | nix64bit | what bar code printer has the best linux support? |
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| 05:27.14 | FunkyBob | nix64bit: what sort of barcodes do you want to print? |
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| 05:32.12 | orlock | nix64bit: Throughput matters |
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| 05:32.41 | orlock | nix64bit: we use Zebra printers here, https://km.zebra.com/kb/index?page=content&id=SO7680 |
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| 05:40.22 | Wulf | nix64bit: zebra printers work fine on linux. |
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| 05:41.13 | orlock | Wulf: I'd make some joke about working as well as under anything else.. but honestly, they havent given us _that_ many problems |
| 05:41.28 | FunkyBob | orlock: ! |
| 05:41.44 | FunkyBob | most of them have simple text based protocols... |
| 05:41.48 | orlock | yup its me |
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| 05:42.30 | orlock | FunkyBob: just nistalled an automated photo taking picture taking ipad based sign-in kiosk here, ties into ldap and the rest |
| 05:44.34 | FunkyBob | nifty |
| 05:45.10 | FunkyBob | I'm helping optimise a system that uses ML to identify dvelopment stages of IVF embryos in incubation |
| 05:46.33 | orlock | FunkyBob: It reminded me of the one i saw at UMD, except this is just a tablet in a very nice bracket. 6mm steel! |
| 05:46.55 | orlock | FunkyBob: Nice. Sounds like something the guys next door would be right into |
| 05:47.22 | orlock | FunkyBob: Seeing as they are all into making cutting edge biotech robots. They made a cloning machine! |
| 05:48.15 | FunkyBob | nice |
| 05:48.19 | FunkyBob | where abouts is that? |
| 05:48.25 | FunkyBob | not in Box Hill, is it? |
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| 05:48.46 | orlock | nah, just down the road from UMD |
| 05:48.51 | FunkyBob | ah, ok |
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| 06:22.56 | Agafnd | is there a graphical application for manipulating wacom tablet settings in the repos? |
| 06:23.03 | Agafnd | if so, I can't find it |
| 06:23.29 | tesko | did you try google or youtube? |
| 06:23.52 | tesko | sorry.. im depressed |
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| 06:25.26 | tesko | seriously though ,, try aptitude or synaptic |
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| 06:25.58 | Agafnd | yeah, i've looked |
| 06:26.09 | Agafnd | the reason i ask here is because I can't find anything |
| 06:26.26 | Agafnd | which would indicate there isn't anything, but it's worth a shot |
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| 06:29.01 | Agafnd | oh hm, I guess xsetwacom isn't that hard to use |
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| 06:36.39 | bounceman | Hi, I am running debian 7 and would like a higher version of UFW to be able to add comments to firewall rules. Do I need to add a separate repo for this? |
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| 06:42.46 | jelly | bounceman: debian 7 is very old, if you need a newer ufw you'll probably have to build it locally yourself |
| 06:42.54 | jelly | ,v ufw |
| 06:42.55 | judd | Package: ufw on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.31.1-2; jessie: 0.33-2; stretch: 0.35-4; buster: 0.35-5; sid: 0.35-5 |
| 06:43.18 | bounceman | Ok, I will hang tight instead. Since we need to leave deb7 in 2018 Q1 anyway |
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| 06:43.29 | jelly | ,checkbackport ufw --fromrelease stretch --torelease wheezy |
| 06:43.30 | judd | Backporting package ufw in stretch→wheezy/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy-backports, wheezy. |
| 06:44.55 | jelly | !aab |
| 06:44.58 | jelly | !ssb |
| 06:44.58 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 06:45.33 | jelly | bounceman: you can try doing the local build this way ^^ |
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| 06:46.11 | bounceman | Sounds unstable since it is not ment to be |
| 06:46.13 | bounceman | I rather wait |
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| 06:47.21 | jelly | of course, doing a release upgrade to debian 8, then to debian 9 would be a better option |
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| 06:47.40 | jelly | from a distro support perspective |
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| 07:21.27 | Agafnd | what's the least I need to technically be running xfce |
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| 07:26.23 | BenNZ | Agafnd: https://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements |
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| 07:34.21 | nix64bit | thanks guys |
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| 08:02.03 | john_rambo | Using Debian 9 ... WHen I insert usb flash drive its getting mounted as read only ...Tried chown it says operation not permitted ... How to fix this ? |
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| 08:05.03 | petn-randall | john_rambo: Can you show us the output of 'mount' on https://paste.debian.net? |
| 08:06.46 | john_rambo | petn-randall, https://paste2.org/335Yabhw |
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| 08:07.59 | petn-randall | john_rambo: does the output of 'id' show that your uid is 1000? |
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| 08:09.20 | john_rambo | petn-randall, https://paste2.org/gIH2gICH |
| 08:09.40 | babilen | john_rambo: Is this about /media/two/WIN 7 ? |
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| 08:10.45 | babilen | Or /media/two/379C-F6C4 ? |
| 08:10.55 | john_rambo | babilen, No thats my WIn partition ....flash is at /media/two/379C-F6C4/ |
| 08:10.57 | babilen | I guess the latter |
| 08:11.34 | john_rambo | babilen, Should I reboot and test again ? |
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| 08:12.37 | babilen | I wouldn't ... |
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| 08:53.21 | jaggz | how do I make startup scripts show the command they're running? |
| 08:53.31 | jaggz | (I'm just trying to debug one of them) |
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| 09:03.34 | lubuntu_ | Cant you just put like a message in the consol window ? When you run the script it sould then just say that it's running ? |
| 09:03.53 | lubuntu_ | I am no JavaScript wizzard but i know you can put messages in the console |
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| 09:07.21 | Ulrar | Hi, quick question. On debian 8 I used to do "route add X.X.X.X dev eth0 ; route add default gw X.X.X.X" for out of scope gateways and it worked fine. With debian 9, since net-tools isn't installed by default, I have to use ip route add .. and on the second command it says the gateway is "garbage" |
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| 09:07.33 | Ulrar | Is there some option I have to use to force it to accept out of scope gateways ? |
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| 09:08.59 | petemc | ip route add 1.2.3.4 dev ethN ; ip route add default via 1.2.3.4 |
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| 09:10.19 | Ulrar | so s/gw/via/ should work ? |
| 09:10.34 | petemc | thats the commands i use |
| 09:11.02 | Ulrar | Still says it's garbage .. that's weird |
| 09:11.48 | Ulrar | Ah no sorry, it does work, my colleague wasn't copying it properly |
| 09:11.58 | Ulrar | Thanks a lot |
| 09:12.06 | jaggz | lubuntu_, it just says it's starting, with no errors and no errors in the log.. but it's not running, and status shows it's (exited) |
| 09:14.48 | lubuntu_ | I don't know what kind of a scritp you made, but maybe you can put like messages after every block to check where it goes wrong. |
| 09:15.10 | lubuntu_ | But we are talking about normal JavaScript right ? |
| 09:15.38 | jaggz | lubuntu_, using the official scripts of the pkg |
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| 09:30.19 | jaggz | it looks like the init script is not making it past the . /lib/lsb/init-functions line |
| 09:30.43 | jaggz | based on a subsequent "echo step b > /tmp/foo" not outputting to /tmp/foo |
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| 09:31.13 | jaggz | this is debian 9.1's "mosquitto" package, if that's an issue |
| 09:31.58 | lubuntu_ | Jaggz, i think that i can not help you with this. |
| 09:32.09 | jaggz | lubuntu_, :) |
| 09:32.21 | jaggz | thanks for your consideration though |
| 09:32.30 | lubuntu_ | np |
| 09:33.02 | lubuntu_ | But your goal is just to run a script at startup or create a package an din the package it sould do something to start at startup ? I have no clue what i am talking about haha |
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| 09:33.53 | jaggz | no I don't want to mess with the packages.. goal was just to use the actual debian repo's "mosquitto" server instead of some outside repo |
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| 09:34.46 | lubuntu_ | Ow you mean you just want to change where for example apt-get gets its stuff from right |
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| 09:35.13 | lubuntu_ | like you have to modify the /etc/apt/source.list file or some package manager to add the mosquitto server ? |
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| 09:36.03 | jaggz | lubuntu_, yeah, basically. |
| 09:36.04 | jaggz | https://mosquitto.org/2013/01/mosquitto-debian-repository/ |
| 09:36.48 | jaggz | that's if I'm going to use their own.. I guess I should |
| 09:37.02 | kaliko | Hi, Is it safe to run Unattended-Upgrade on stable-updates suite? |
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| 09:40.25 | jaggz | the debian stretch one, from their repo, isn't loading either |
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| 09:41.36 | lubuntu_ | jaggz can you open your /etc/apt/sources.list file and check what's init then just copy a line and replace the url with your mosquitto server |
| 09:41.56 | lubuntu_ | not sure but if you run apt-get update after this you sould be fine right ? But why are you using a repo from 2013 ? |
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| 10:38.19 | Paul-- | hello |
| 10:38.38 | Paul-- | how set audio hdmi from audio card ? |
| 10:38.52 | Paul-- | alsamixer see my audio device, but don't go |
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| 10:39.41 | klys | there should be instructions to make an ~/.asoundrc file somewhere |
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| 10:40.16 | Paul-- | it's the system strange is under home directory |
| 10:40.57 | Paul-- | dont' exist |
| 10:41.24 | Paul-- | nvidia video card hdmi audio |
| 10:41.35 | klys | check with alsa-project.org |
| 10:41.38 | Paul-- | driver noveanu gpl |
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| 10:47.17 | Paul-- | !hdmi sound |
| 10:48.08 | Iridos | pavucontrol, possibly? |
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| 10:53.47 | stefano__ | hey guys i'm on gnome 3, how do i set up a screen saver? |
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| 10:57.02 | petn-randall | stefano__: There should be an option for it in the system settings. |
| 10:58.16 | stefano__ | i don't find it :/ |
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| 11:06.48 | Iridos | funnily, there doesn't seem to be a gnome-screensaver-demo |
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| 11:08.49 | Iridos | well, for basic usage… it should already be running, if it's not, call gnome-screensaver |
| 11:09.39 | Iridos | and that should already react to ctrl-alt-L … if you need to make something to click on to lock, you can make that using gnome-screensaver-command --lock |
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| 11:12.26 | stefano__ | Iridos: thank you |
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| 11:13.47 | Iridos | and I agree there should be something in one of gnome's configure menues… but I don't use gnome anymore, so can't really comment |
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| 11:14.20 | Iridos | maybe xscreensaver-demo works on it… or switch to xscreensaver altogether |
| 11:15.11 | Iridos | haha |
| 11:15.15 | Iridos | https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html |
| 11:15.20 | Iridos | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:15.26 | Iridos | Probably you are not running xscreensaver at all, but but are running "gnome-screensaver" instead. You should stop. |
| 11:15.36 | Iridos | XScreenSaver is secure, stable, and mature; whereas gnome-screensaver is bug-ridden, unreliable, and an ongoing security disaste |
| 11:15.38 | Iridos | heh |
| 11:15.55 | Iridos | "and this opinion is totally unbiased, although we are the developers of xscreensaver" |
| 11:15.56 | jelly | what's worse, he's mostly right |
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| 11:17.06 | jelly | tho now that there's systemd-logind and actual locking offloaded to a slightly saner subsystem, it's not completely broken any more |
| 11:17.30 | jelly | ie: you can kill -9 the screensaver process, and your session won't get unlocked |
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| 11:17.44 | jelly | gnome-screensaver* |
| 11:18.26 | Iridos | muaha… they have a way of writing… |
| 11:18.32 | Iridos | like: "Still not working, but on your distro, that newfangled systemd (1) nonsense has already fallen out of favor? " |
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| 11:19.40 | stefano__ | ok... switching to xscreensaver altogeter! |
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| 11:21.13 | jelly | > If you are using Debian, install the newer version from their so-called "unstable" packages. |
| 11:21.16 | jelly | /o\ |
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| 11:22.55 | Iridos | jelly, yeah, you should use distros that give you an option to keep a crappy little program in which the french-language help for its windows version changed can be kept up-to-date!!! |
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| 11:23.36 | stefano__ | mmm not taking anything unsytable sorry |
| 11:23.40 | Iridos | stefano__, and if that wasn't clear… don't get the version from unstable |
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| 11:23.44 | stefano__ | last time i did i fucked up everything ahahah |
| 11:23.47 | Iridos | :) |
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| 11:23.53 | stefano__ | Iridos: yeah it was ahahahah |
| 11:24.22 | Iridos | I think the message telling you to upgrade has been patched out by debian with a lot of drama recently… so this is a non-issue (wasn't it ever) |
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| 11:31.09 | Sia- | hi |
| 11:32.11 | Sia- | with this can i mount shared samba device |
| 11:32.12 | Sia- | mount -t cifs -o user=guest //192.168.1.112/Transmission /mnt/linky_share |
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| 11:32.42 | Sia- | how can i do it in automount fstab? |
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| 11:42.50 | shark07 | exit |
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| 11:45.20 | tw | Sia-: cifs in the filesystem type field, user=guest (and possibly ,vers=3.0) in the options field. |
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| 11:46.19 | tw | type is field 3, options field 4, 0 0 is enough to finish the line. |
| 11:46.59 | tesko | taco |
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| 11:47.31 | Sia- | guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8 0 0 like this? |
| 11:47.56 | tw | If you use user=guest on the commandline, you should use user=guest in that field. |
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| 11:48.47 | tw | I highly recommend trying the vers=3.0 option because you should have version 1 disabled. |
| 11:49.34 | tw | (and smb3 is not default until 4.13) |
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| 11:56.02 | Sia- | tw just added this, i hope it work https://pastebin.com/raw/FiRPEytt |
| 11:56.12 | Sia- | thanks for your help |
| 11:56.41 | tw | yeah, give that a shot with sudo mount /mnt/linky_share |
| 11:56.52 | tw | or if you are already root, omit sudo. |
| 11:57.01 | tw | if it doesn't pick up the cfg line, it will tell you. |
| 11:57.06 | tw | You may need to unmount it first. |
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| 11:57.11 | tw | *umount |
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| 12:09.19 | Sia- | tw added it, thanks again mount -t cifs -o guest,vers=3.0,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8 //192.168.1.112/Transmission /mnt/linky_share |
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| 12:12.44 | tw | Sia-: try it without the source, type, or options from the commandline. It will pull from fstab if it is configured properly. |
| 12:14.30 | Sia- | if is no source how can it connect? |
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| 12:15.29 | tw | it knows from fstab. |
| 12:15.40 | tw | if you have the line in fstab configured properly, it's a good test. |
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| 12:16.37 | Sia- | like that https://pastebin.com/raw/hcx24r91 |
| 12:17.50 | tw | No, just "mount /mnt/linky_share" |
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| 12:20.48 | Sia- | tw just "mount /mnt/linky_share" can doesn't remember which samba server is attached ..etc |
| 12:21.27 | Devastator | any idea if it is possible to get ntpd >= 4.2.6 with signed ntp support on Debian? is ntpd on backports? |
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| 12:22.59 | tw | Sia-: then your /etc/fstab is not configured properly and you need to figure out what is wrong with it. |
| 12:23.08 | tw | Or you typed the command wrong. |
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| 12:24.56 | Sia- | i have umounted and mount it with "mount -t cifs -o guest,vers=3.0,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8 //192.168.1.112/Transmission /mnt/linky_share" working perfect, just i need to added it to automount after reboot or shutdown |
| 12:25.44 | tw | which, if you used the line from before in fstab, src dest fstype options 0 0, you should already be theer. |
| 12:25.56 | tw | you already pastebin'd the right line to me. |
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| 12:26.43 | Sia- | which right one? |
| 12:27.27 | tw | Dunno, I closed it. It starts //192.168.1.112/ |
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| 12:28.56 | Sia- | https://pastebin.com/raw/FiRPEytt |
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| 12:29.20 | tw | Append that to fstab. |
| 12:29.30 | tw | Try the mount command with just the target again after you add it. |
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| 12:32.45 | Sia- | ok thanks |
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| 12:39.18 | pablo_ | hello all |
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| 12:39.48 | pablo_ | how make fonts more big in xfce ? |
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| 12:40.08 | pablo_ | I installed nvidia drivers, and they are too much little |
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| 12:43.27 | surfer_ | I created an ad card with raspberry is |
| 12:43.32 | surfer_ | OS |
| 12:43.37 | surfer_ | HOW TO MOUNT? |
| 12:43.46 | surfer_ | on pc? |
| 12:43.58 | surfer_ | SD* |
| 12:44.04 | ykchavan | I am not able to find package 'npm' on stretch. Is this expected? |
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| 12:44.12 | petn-randall | pablo_: Go to System Settings → Appearance → Fonts. You can change the size there. |
| 12:44.28 | S4nD3r | Hi! I'd like some help with my vpn connection. I'm trying to connect with my VPN server using my debian (pptp). The log is here (https://pastebin.com/c86wUZJW). I've used this command line: sudo pptpsetup --create MYVPN --server 193.136.28.199 --username xxx@xx.xx --password xxxx --start |
| 12:44.37 | petn-randall | ykchavan: Yes, it was removed. |
| 12:44.40 | petn-randall | ,why npm |
| 12:44.42 | judd | (why <package1> <package2> [--arch <amd64>] [--release <stable>] [--norecommends]) -- Find dependency chains between the two packages within the specified release and architecture. By default, recommended packages are checked too and the current stable release and amd64 are used. |
| 12:44.54 | pablo_ | pent-randall: it's too much little, I don't see |
| 12:45.06 | petn-randall | pablo_: petn<tab> |
| 12:45.47 | petn-randall | pablo_: I don't know, try to temporarily connect a different monitor to make the change? |
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| 12:46.30 | Devastator | will I have to compile a package to check which files were used when packaged? |
| 12:46.55 | petn-randall | ,v ntpd |
| 12:46.56 | judd | No package named 'ntpd' was found in amd64. |
| 12:47.09 | petn-randall | ,v ntp |
| 12:47.10 | judd | Package: ntp on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u7; jessie: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-7+deb8u2; stretch: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-3; buster: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-5; sid: 1:4.2.8p10+dfsg-5 |
| 12:47.52 | Devastator | s/files/flags |
| 12:48.10 | petn-randall | Devastator: ntpd >= 4.2.6 is in all supported releases. |
| 12:48.21 | Devastator | I'm trying to check if it was compiled with --enable-ntp-signd |
| 12:48.25 | surfer_ | Help |
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| 12:48.57 | surfer_ | I need to mount ext sdcard |
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| 12:49.02 | Devastator | petn-randall thank you, do you know if they compiled it with --enable-ntp-signd flag? |
| 12:49.05 | surfer_ | How to do? |
| 12:49.16 | petn-randall | surfer_: You want to ask in #raspberrypi or #raspbian. |
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| 12:49.24 | petn-randall | surfer_: Or are you running Debian on your PC? |
| 12:49.41 | surfer_ | I m on Debian |
| 12:49.52 | surfer_ | I want to mount sdcard on my pic |
| 12:49.55 | petn-randall | surfer_: What release? |
| 12:49.57 | surfer_ | pc |
| 12:50.13 | surfer_ | 8 |
| 12:50.41 | surfer_ | How to use mount to mount the sdcard? |
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| 12:50.59 | petn-randall | surfer_: Please stop spamming the channel, if someone knows, they will respond. |
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| 12:52.01 | towo-kvm | surfer_, what's the problem with mount /dev/sdXY /path/to/mountpoint? |
| 12:52.02 | petn-randall | Devastator: You could download the sources with 'apt-get source ntp' and check. |
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| 12:54.30 | PregnantGuy | hi |
| 12:54.38 | PregnantGuy | anyone knows vim ? I can't send into #vim so can I ask here ? |
| 12:55.01 | petemc | sure |
| 12:55.02 | jolt | PregnantGuy: Shoot |
| 12:55.03 | ykchavan | petn-randall, I find many packages are missing. e.g npm, pulseview. Why so? Are they in WIP? |
| 12:55.17 | PregnantGuy | so I have mark set to letter "e" and I wanted to jump to it using: 'e but instead I pressed '3 and it opened me file /etc/fstab, why ? |
| 12:55.49 | ykchavan | Is there list of missing packages in stretch which were in sid? |
| 12:55.51 | PregnantGuy | or how to get list of all marks that are set ? |
| 12:55.55 | PregnantGuy | in vim |
| 12:56.13 | petn-randall | dpkg: why is npm not in stable |
| 12:56.13 | dpkg | petn-randall: I think you lost me on that one |
| 12:56.18 | petn-randall | dpkg: why is npm not in testing |
| 12:56.18 | dpkg | npm is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=npm |
| 12:56.27 | jolt | PregnantGuy: That's right over my vim knowledge |
| 12:56.51 | petn-randall | ykchavan: See the factoid above, likely due to quality reasons they are not included. |
| 12:57.20 | ykchavan | Got it. Thanks |
| 12:57.27 | sypher | PregnantGuy: :marks |
| 12:57.37 | Devastator | oh boy, I had to install dpkg-dev to unpack ntp properly :( |
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| 12:58.01 | Devastator | I wonder if it would be possible to add such info in packages.debian.org |
| 12:58.14 | ykchavan | Also found /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file missing in stretch which were present in previous releases. |
| 12:59.01 | sypher | PregnantGuy: Also, vim automatically assigns your recently opened files to numeric marks. |
| 12:59.20 | PregnantGuy | thanks |
| 12:59.21 | sypher | PregnantGuy: /etc/fstab is your fourth file back in your history, therefore '3 worked. |
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| 13:00.04 | PregnantGuy | this channel is much more friendly than #gentoo, all I got in #gentoo was: "#gentoo != #vim" |
| 13:00.13 | PregnantGuy | and here I even got an answer |
| 13:00.31 | PregnantGuy | I always considered debian better distribution than gentoo |
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| 13:01.18 | sypher | I think #gentoo is perpetually crabby due to rapid aging. That's what staring at make output does to you. |
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| 13:04.01 | eri- | o/ |
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| 13:05.20 | talin | hello. i am runnign debian 9.1 on an arm device and i have a strange problem. most of my programs won't start, and when i strace them, they all stop at "getrandom(" |
| 13:05.34 | talin | in the man page it says that getrandom() will block until its entropy pool has been initialized |
| 13:05.42 | talin | any suggestions? |
| 13:06.02 | eri451 | I'm looking for the guys who do https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/ |
| 13:06.12 | sypher | talin: Is haveged available in the mirrors for arm? |
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| 13:07.17 | eri451 | is there somewhere an irc or something? |
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| 13:08.01 | eri451 | or does someone here know what 'dpkg --add-architecture' does? is it just editing /var/lib/dpkg/arch? |
| 13:08.36 | talin | sypher: yes, it seems like it |
| 13:09.10 | sypher | talin: Install it and that should do the trick. |
| 13:09.14 | sypher | talin: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/haveged |
| 13:09.35 | talin | sypher: fantastic, that worked |
| 13:09.38 | talin | thank you |
| 13:09.48 | sypher | Any time. |
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| 13:13.08 | dionysus69 | hey |
| 13:13.18 | dionysus69 | I am trying to install mysql 5.* |
| 13:13.24 | dionysus69 | but it installed version 10* mariadb |
| 13:13.29 | dionysus69 | mysql-server package |
| 13:13.35 | dionysus69 | is 5.* not in repos? |
| 13:14.11 | sypher | dionysus69: MariaDB is the provider for mysql in Debian. You shouldn't have an issue in terms of compatibility. |
| 13:14.34 | dionysus69 | i get a warning from mysql workbench saying not all features will work etc etc |
| 13:14.41 | jhutchins | ,v mysql |
| 13:14.42 | dionysus69 | compatible with 5.* versions |
| 13:14.42 | judd | No package named 'mysql' was found in amd64. |
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| 13:14.52 | dionysus69 | mysql-server :) |
| 13:14.53 | jhutchins | ,v mariadb |
| 13:14.54 | judd | No package named 'mariadb' was found in amd64. |
| 13:15.07 | sypher | dionysus69: Anecdotally, I have -never- experienced an actual issue. |
| 13:15.32 | jhutchins | ,v mysql-server |
| 13:15.33 | judd | Package: mysql-server on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.47-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.55-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.57-0+deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.57-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.5.57-0+deb8u1; stretch: 5.5.9999+default; sid: 5.7.18-1 |
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| 13:16.20 | sypher | dionysus69: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/mariadb-vs-mysql-compatibility/#incompatibilities-between-mariadb-101-and-mysql-57 |
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| 13:19.57 | dionysus69 | ok thanks sypher :) |
| 13:20.19 | dionysus69 | anyways what do I do to check what version do I have installed ? :D |
| 13:20.31 | eri451 | dpkg -l |
| 13:20.31 | dpkg | Files in package eri451-pr0n: /srv/eri451-pr0n/eri451.jpg |
| 13:20.42 | eri451 | ? |
| 13:20.53 | dionysus69 | ok great 5.5.9999 |
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| 13:21.40 | sypher | That's just the virtual package that installs mariadb. |
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| 13:22.00 | sypher | If you look at mariadb, the version will most likely be 10.1.26-0+deb9u1. |
| 13:22.05 | eri451 | ,v mariadb-server |
| 13:22.06 | dionysus69 | ugh |
| 13:22.06 | judd | Package: mariadb-server on amd64 -- jessie: 10.0.25-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 10.0.25-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 10.0.30-0+deb8u1; jessie: 10.0.30-0+deb8u2; jessie-security: 10.0.32-0+deb8u1; stretch: 10.1.23-9+deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 10.1.26-0+deb9u1; stretch-security: 10.1.26-0+deb9u1; buster: 10.1.26-1; sid: 10.1.26-1; experimental: 10.3.0-0+exp1; experimental: |
| 13:22.07 | judd | 10.3.0-0+exp2 |
| 13:22.21 | dionysus69 | stupid web developers..., they should have just installed postgresql in the first place |
| 13:22.29 | eri451 | :) |
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| 13:24.07 | eri451 | okay one more try: does someone know how i can create debian-images with multiarch like https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/ |
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| 13:24.29 | eri451 | does debootstrap has a feature for that? |
| 13:25.01 | eri451 | in this log https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/log/20170722/NI.log I can see lots of scripts get called |
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| 13:25.45 | eri451 | is there a way to get these? |
| 13:26.14 | FinalX | dionysus69: you can safely upgrade from mysql 5.5 to mariadb 10 in stretch |
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| 13:26.43 | dionysus69 | it did by itself it seems like |
| 13:26.54 | FinalX | switching _to_ mariadb is usually a non-issue :P switching back *might* be |
| 13:26.55 | dionysus69 | when I installed mysql-server, it installs mariadb by default |
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| 13:27.06 | FinalX | yeah, as said before, mysql-server is a meta-package |
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| 13:27.17 | FinalX | ubuntu still provides all flavors of mysql, though. |
| 13:27.19 | dionysus69 | ok let's see what happens with the ruby mysql gem |
| 13:27.22 | FinalX | mysql, mariadb, percona.. |
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| 13:27.25 | dionysus69 | if activerecord pukes out something |
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| 13:27.54 | FinalX | *should* work fine, mariadb is just a mysql fork with extra features. version upgrades of mysql => mariadb are pretty much the same as with mysql => mysql |
| 13:28.18 | FinalX | haven't encountered client problems so far.. |
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| 13:28.43 | dionysus69 | ok great, thanks FinalX :) |
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| 13:29.19 | FinalX | and to be honest, with the original mysql authors behind mariadb, I have more faith in mariadb than in mysql at the moment :) |
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| 13:31.11 | dionysus69 | ye me too, but tbh I dont care about either |
| 13:31.19 | dionysus69 | rails community usually sticks to postgresql |
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| 13:31.48 | dionysus69 | it's just this company i started to work for ordered made an app through some company who used mysql ... |
| 13:32.02 | FinalX | our entire shared webhosting platform does mysql, we use mariadb internally for some things, but most big databases are postgres |
| 13:32.24 | FinalX | and then we still have a bunch of redis etc. |
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| 13:32.32 | dionysus69 | :) |
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| 13:50.44 | Ikikay | Hi, Is someone can help me please ? I did a fresh install of Owncloud on a Debian 9 ... but i'v got a 403 error ... |
| 13:51.18 | alocer | !inv #owncloud |
| 13:51.27 | Ikikay | Already tryed |
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| 13:51.43 | Ikikay | "[11:24]" still waiting :) |
| 13:51.50 | jelly | Ikikay: for a start, look at error logs of your web server |
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| 13:52.32 | jelly | Ikikay: does the package for owncloud come from debian's repos or did you have to get the software elsewhere? |
| 13:52.45 | Ikikay | jelly : AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /etc/apache2/var |
| 13:53.00 | Ikikay | I checked my configuration, it's looking nice ... |
| 13:53.18 | jelly | if it's looking for files in /etc/apache2/var it's not very nice |
| 13:53.19 | Ikikay | heu ... I downloaded it from the website, and install it with the deb |
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| 13:53.50 | Ikikay | I did the same thing that this link : http://manjaro.site/install-owncloud-10-debian-9/ |
| 13:54.04 | jelly | at the very least, verify DocumentRoot points to a sane place, you might have "var" without a slash in front "/var" somewhere |
| 13:54.34 | Ikikay | .... |
| 13:54.37 | Ikikay | oh ... |
| 13:54.59 | jelly | (/etc/apache2 is apache ServerRoot, no configured web site should look for files there on Debian) |
| 13:55.00 | Ikikay | I writted : <Directory /var/www/html/owncloud/> |
| 13:55.06 | Ikikay | that what u want to say ? |
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| 13:55.25 | Ikikay | Sorry i'm newbie, What/where is DocumentRoot ? :x |
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| 13:56.26 | jelly | DocumentRoot is where files for a web site are stored, in apache. In Debian, you get one web site ("VirtualHost") configured by default and its DocumentRoot is at /var/www/html |
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| 13:57.03 | Ikikay | in /etc/apache2/site-avilable/000-default.conf |
| 13:57.09 | Ikikay | I have : DocumentRoot /var/www/html |
| 13:57.11 | jelly | Ikikay: "apache2ctl -S" will show a summary of which VirtualHosts are configured and enabled, then you can look at their config files for details |
| 13:57.12 | Ikikay | that's it ? |
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| 13:57.30 | jelly | yeah |
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| 13:58.29 | Ikikay | It's new all theis thing for me, and i'm not english native, it's quite complicated to understand .... I have a second file for my configuration, like the tuto say, it's not good ? |
| 13:58.58 | Ikikay | or should I remove "/" before var ? I don't understand why ... |
| 13:58.59 | jelly | I did not read the tutorial, so cannot say. |
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| 13:59.22 | jelly | no, that / is supposed to be there. But perhaps there's a different config where that / is missing |
| 14:00.23 | TheSin | anyone know how to set the location of the dhclient.<dev>.leases file with the isc-dhcp-client package? ther eis no default file and I can't see where the params for the call form networks |
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| 14:01.09 | Ikikay | Oohh ! |
| 14:01.18 | Ikikay | maybe in my alias, I didn't write "/" ? |
| 14:01.25 | Ikikay | I try it ! |
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| 14:01.51 | Ikikay | That's it !!! |
| 14:02.07 | Ikikay | omg ... you are a genius .... 6 hours for a "/" on my alias x_X ...... |
| 14:02.53 | Ikikay | eager to be back at school, this years, I will learn about linux :) |
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| 14:13.49 | jelly | Ikikay: it's worth reading actual docs for apache and understanding what the logs tell you |
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| 14:16.54 | Ikikay | I did ... I thinked it's was a require who maked this wrong ... I reading the doc, to understand what it's look like and etc.... |
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| 14:17.13 | Ikikay | I tryed to give a chmod 777 to the files ... I tryed a lot of things ^^' |
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| 14:18.05 | jelly | chmod 777 is almost never the right answer (but is sometimes an easy one) |
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| 14:18.49 | frzen | I'm having trouble getting my head around how udev rules work, I have an adapter at /dev/dvb/adapter0 that I do "chown -R user:user /dev/dvb" every time I boot and it works, but trying to create a symlink to something constant which has the right permissions isn't working for me |
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| 14:19.31 | Ikikay | Yes I know, I did this just for see if it's was my problem, I set in on 701 after that |
| 14:19.43 | Ikikay | tryed to troubleshoot ^^ |
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| 14:28.10 | makeway | Hey, is there a way to reconfigure the "ctrl+a" function with my bashrc? It jumps to the start of the line, but I want to use it for something else. |
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| 14:29.18 | gpunk | makeway bash has keybinding of emacs, |
| 14:29.33 | gpunk | there is an option to make it "vi" , |
| 14:29.38 | gpunk | but I fogot how |
| 14:29.46 | makeway | I'll look it up |
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| 14:30.25 | gpunk | ksh is vi style tho :) |
| 14:30.38 | gpunk | at least on AIX 5.X |
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| 14:31.31 | makeway | Hey, that works actually. Do you know if there's any vi key commands that might mess me up at this point? |
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| 14:31.48 | makeway | I'm trying everything out and it feels the same. |
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| 14:33.02 | gpunk | http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Increasing_or_decreasing_numbers :) |
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| 14:43.37 | Ikikay | that's a lot of connetion/disconction ... X_X hard to read |
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| 15:03.02 | veek | anyone familiar with iostat |
| 15:03.12 | veek | interpreting its output |
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| 15:07.30 | abrotman | veek: just ask, don't ask to ask |
| 15:07.50 | veek | i need help deciphering this article https://brooker.co.za/blog/2013/07/14/io-performance.html |
| 15:07.54 | abrotman | veek: most people who do admin-ish work should know about iostat |
| 15:08.26 | abrotman | veek: you're going to have to be more specific |
| 15:08.36 | veek | does -x cause the disk to do IO? or is that guy running it on a loaded server? |
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| 15:09.00 | veek | when you run iostat where are the stats coming from? in real time? |
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| 15:09.39 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.14 | veek | but he says first report generated by the iostat command provides statistics concerning the time since the system was booted |
| 15:10.28 | veek | so every run nukes old data? |
| 15:11.12 | abrotman | no |
| 15:11.36 | abrotman | it will show the aggregate, or you can run it with a time optoin which will pause for a moment, show booted stats, then proceed to show the periodic stats |
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| 15:18.36 | veek | abrotman, in that article he says 'we're doing about 125 random IOs per second, each at 16k (32.00 512 byte sectors), at a mean service time of around 8ms.' avgrq-sz is the avg size of the queue.. so lets say i ask for sector 10, 20, 30, 59 etc really quickly.. the requests pile up in the read queue to the tune of 32 and therefore 32*512=16kB how does that equaqte to the speed at which the queue is cleared? |
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| 15:19.32 | veek | ' The average size (in sectors) of the requests that were issued to the device' from man |
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| 15:20.21 | veek | avgrq-sz is a good indicator of how busy the program is assuming it can saturate the queue |
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| 15:31.28 | kqo12 | Any cli browser that's still updated |
| 15:31.28 | kqo12 | ? |
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| 15:43.13 | VeronicaX111 | @annadane That's sort of what I was fearing. If that's the case is there ANYWHERE I can download this SO file or am I screwed? |
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| 15:49.37 | utente | i use debian 9. today i plugged a wireless dongle and in dmesg got this: rt2800usb 8-6.1:1.0 wlx00027ab44551: renamed from wlan0 |
| 15:49.37 | utente | . well, i want back the classic "wlan0" name instead of that unbleasant alfanumeric string. how can i do?. |
| 15:49.44 | annadane | VeronicaX111, it's been a while, could you maybe restate your problem? |
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| 15:51.48 | shtrb | utente , use udev rule |
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| 15:54.07 | shtrb | utente , look in /etc/udev/ruled.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 15:54.19 | utente | shtrb, thanks, |
| 15:55.01 | babilen | utente: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ |
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| 15:55.33 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: That has nothing to do with udev. |
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| 15:55.47 | frzen | can someone help with a udev issue I have, I want /dev/dvb to be owned by 'user' but I can only give ownership to /dev/dvb/adapter0, how would I give ownership over /dev/dvb like I could with "chown -R user:user /dev/dvb" |
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| 15:56.06 | shtrb | one of the ways to get a persistent name (what he asks for) can be done via udev rules |
| 15:56.17 | jhutchins_wk | !interface names |
| 15:56.17 | dpkg | Starting with <stretch>, network interface names have changed from the previous convention of eth0, eth1/wlan0, wlan1 to names based on the device vendor or driver. This has some upsides and some downsides. For more information and options, see https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ |
| 15:56.23 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: That's old info. |
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| 15:56.46 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: It happens at the kernel level, not udev. |
| 15:57.25 | shtrb | the udev rule approach is one of the "suggested" way to solve this issue. (without touching the pile of gold called systemd) |
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| 15:57.43 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: udev is the old way. |
| 15:58.02 | utente | shtrb, i suppose you type "gold" but read "shit". |
| 15:58.41 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: That file won't even exist on a clean stretch install. |
| 15:58.57 | shtrb | he can also disable it on kernel level |
| 15:58.57 | jhutchins_wk | utente: It's not systemd either, it's the kernel. |
| 15:59.14 | utente | wow. SO bad are the situation? |
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| 15:59.30 | frzen | jhutchins_wk, am I right to be looking at udev for my situation |
| 15:59.32 | shtrb | the change to get the names are : disable the feature (kernel or systemd) , to workaround you can adjust systemd or use a udev script |
| 15:59.37 | utente | ok ok, i just need back ethX and wlanX format. |
| 15:59.55 | shtrb | you can also work with net.ifnmes=0 to kernel |
| 15:59.56 | somiaj | there is a systemd flag you can use to use the old naming method. |
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| 16:00.05 | jhutchins_wk | utente: Check the link from dpkg above, you can set it back to the old method. |
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| 16:00.25 | jhutchins_wk | frzen: Sorry, connection issues, didn't see your issue. |
| 16:00.28 | utente | ok, somiaj how i must do to do it? |
| 16:00.31 | frzen | can someone help with a udev issue I have, I want /dev/dvb to be owned by 'user' but I can only give ownership to /dev/dvb/adapter0, how would I give ownership over /dev/dvb like I could with "chown -R user:user /dev/dvb" |
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| 16:00.37 | frzen | thats repost of it ty |
| 16:00.44 | somiaj | utente: read the link the bot posted, same link I was going to shrae. |
| 16:00.45 | utente | ok i will do. |
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| 16:01.54 | shtrb | jhutchins_wk , if udev is not the choice could someone please remove it from https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html ? |
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| 16:03.56 | utente | mmm if i do iwconfig i can see the added wifi dongre, o dont see it it i do ifconfig. (wifi dongre still not get ip address). it is this a normal behaviour? |
| 16:03.59 | shtrb | And dpkg's link ( https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ ) gives the options I gave (kernel arg or systemd ) |
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| 16:04.39 | shtrb | utente,ifconfig -a has the same result ? |
| 16:05.08 | utente | no, ifconfig -a give all devices. i didtn know -a option, thanks. |
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| 16:07.34 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: That information is correct, it refers to systems that were upgraded from jessie which will still use the udev persistent naming system. |
| 16:08.04 | shtrb | ok |
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| 16:09.10 | utente | afteri read https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ i prefere to take new stupid name Wwtf12345456 and adapt my scripts to it, so i will not diverge from actual behaviour of kernel. thanks to all. |
| 16:09.10 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: It might be good to add the link to the freedesktop doc. |
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| 16:10.25 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: The new method is very useful for systems with multiple interfaces on different buses, like servers with fiberchannel storage, management networks, and several regular links. |
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| 16:19.52 | contrapunctus | Debian Stretch laptop with two users, one in the sudo group and one not. I'm running Syncthing on it (it's not available in the repos, so had to use their build); what's the recommended way to go about installing it so that any user may access it? |
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| 16:20.51 | leo-treasure | Hi, I just installed Debian onto the wrong hard drive. Is there a command I can do to change it over to the ssd? Or should I reinstall? |
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| 16:21.28 | n4dir | leo-treasure: probably "rsync" |
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| 16:21.39 | leo-treasure | Thanks n4dir |
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| 16:21.42 | n4dir | search for backup and restore with rsync, or such. |
| 16:22.00 | leo-treasure | Great, thanks! |
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| 16:22.22 | n4dir | leo-treasure: good luck :-) (not that it would be needed, should be straight forward, but anyway :-) ) |
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| 16:34.07 | sleepingforest | will `ps` ever get PS_COLORS implemented? or is there an alternative im not aware of? |
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| 16:36.54 | sleepingforest | ps manual says PS_COLORS is not implemented. im surprised because ps is an essential sysadmin tool, and its colorless output is a strain on the eyes. i'll probably write a bash alias that colorizes each row looping through 5 or so colors, but i thought id ask |
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| 16:42.23 | jhutchins_wk | contrapunctus: You could build a .deb package from their source, or just install it on the regular user's path. |
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| 16:52.05 | mnuhmnuh | sleepingforest: try htop |
| 16:52.34 | sleepingforest | i use htop but htop is a better version of top, not a better ps |
| 16:52.51 | sleepingforest | ps is a processlist snapshot |
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| 16:54.22 | mnuhmnuh | sleepingforest: i'm usually grepping ps output so "alias grep='grep --color=auto'" handles it for ps. |
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| 16:55.11 | sleepingforest | mnuhmnuh, yeah i do the same, but at times i have several processes i want to look at or I just want to peer into the ps tree |
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| 16:55.55 | Iridos | well, not even sure what should be colored how |
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| 16:56.47 | rotaticus | i like ps awwfux | less -S |
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| 16:57.10 | mnuhmnuh | Iridos: yeah, and what's legible in xterm may not be in $blahterm. :-P |
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| 17:12.15 | amd_0x51 | Hey guys, I have asked in #nmap but thought I would here for some more guidance. |
| 17:13.15 | amd_0x51 | So i was on browserleaks.com trying to see how much "exposure" I had. After some nmap scans too I got the commonn OS detection |
| 17:13.20 | amd_0x51 | did some digging and found this |
| 17:13.21 | amd_0x51 | https://nmap.org/misc/defeat-nmap-osdetect.html |
| 17:13.48 | amd_0x51 | it's a bit out of date. Most of the steps are for 2.x.x kernels. |
| 17:14.13 | amd_0x51 | What are some newer more common ways of thwarting os detection scans in debian? |
| 17:14.29 | amd_0x51 | just pure hobby type stuff I have no real threat model for this. Pure interest |
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| 17:14.58 | amd_0x51 | tia |
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| 17:21.24 | n4dir | amd_0x51: i don't know the answer to that question, but do you know this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html#contents |
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| 17:22.13 | n4dir | gotta say that i am more concerned about the running services than about if someone is able to detect the OS |
| 17:23.19 | contrapunctus | jhutchins_wk: I see, thanks |
| 17:23.56 | amd_0x51 | Yeah this is a frequent repsonse and I agree. |
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| 17:24.38 | amd_0x51 | one stackexchange response to a similar question even said it can be bad for network debugging to block these types of things at the kernel level |
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| 17:31.49 | jhutchins_wk | amd_0x51: I don't know if the kernel modules mentioned in that paper are standard kernel.org tested modules, they could pose their own risks and potentially cause network problems. |
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| 17:32.52 | amd_0x51 | no they are not which was another issue of mine |
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| 17:33.08 | amd_0x51 | i think one of them isn't even in development anymore |
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| 17:33.31 | amd_0x51 | wondered if as time has gone on these modules have become easier to set |
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| 17:37.21 | jhutchins_wk | amd_0x51: The idea of "security through obscurity" has been less popular since then. |
| 17:38.09 | jhutchins_wk | amd_0x51: I think the modern approach would be to filter this kind of info at the firewall. |
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| 17:39.14 | abrotman | vee bah he left, though, that was a long time |
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| 17:39.29 | Finkenstein | friendly greetings |
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| 17:40.12 | Lyberta | hi, I'm running "apt-get install -y -qq build-essential cmake" and it produces tons of text, I thought -qq will make it silent, help? |
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| 17:41.34 | Finkenstein | man apt says you have to use another option with -qq (more there) or it may do something you don't accept |
| 17:42.18 | amd_0x51 | agreed jhutchins_wk |
| 17:42.28 | amd_0x51 | much easier that way |
| 17:42.33 | Lyberta | ah, -qq must be before command |
| 17:42.58 | Finkenstein | ah, yes |
| 17:43.10 | Lyberta | ah wait, no.. I dunno, gonna retry |
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| 17:45.18 | Lyberta | no, same output with -qq before install |
| 17:46.35 | Finkenstein | check the man page under -q |
| 17:46.44 | Finkenstein | it says there may be unexpected behavior |
| 17:46.48 | Lyberta | it looks like the output comes from dpkg and not apt itself |
| 17:47.00 | Lyberta | I'm reading stuff on the net |
| 17:47.31 | Finkenstein | hard to tell without seeing the output |
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| 17:48.14 | Lyberta | Finkenstein, https://gitlab.com/ftz/serialization/-/jobs/32561291 |
| 17:48.36 | Lyberta | $ ./InstallDependencies.sh calls apt-get install -qq |
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| 17:52.15 | n4dir | can't you simply redirect all output Lyberta ? |
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| 17:52.47 | Lyberta | n4dir, yeah, this seems to be the easiest way |
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| 17:53.00 | n4dir | yup, i meant it as a quick way around. |
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| 17:55.09 | Lyberta | ok redirect did the job |
| 17:55.57 | Finkenstein | -qq -print-uris works for me in a quick test |
| 17:56.07 | Finkenstein | sorry, --print-uris |
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| 18:36.37 | wallbroken_ | hi |
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| 18:36.51 | wallbroken_ | with debian 9 netinst, "root" user is created? |
| 18:37.08 | wallbroken_ | is possible that i avoided enabling it during the install? |
| 18:37.21 | wallbroken_ | or i've set a blank password? |
| 18:38.10 | mnuhmnuh | wallbroken_: try sudo? |
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| 18:38.39 | wallbroken_ | i'm trying with "su" |
| 18:38.45 | wallbroken_ | it asks for password |
| 18:38.55 | wallbroken_ | which password? |
| 18:39.04 | mnuhmnuh | user's |
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| 18:39.06 | greycat | If you did not set a root password during the install, then you will have to use sudo instead of su. |
| 18:39.26 | wallbroken_ | but i want a password for root user |
| 18:39.28 | wallbroken_ | how to add it? |
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| 18:39.39 | greycat | Then do "sudo -i" to get a shell, and "passwd root" to set one. |
| 18:39.43 | mnuhmnuh | sudo su - |
| 18:39.50 | mnuhmnuh | passwd |
| 18:39.59 | greycat | sudo -i |
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| 18:40.20 | rotaticus | boot the machine change the kernel param to init=/bin/sh then use passwd |
| 18:41.03 | greycat | overkill, but if sudo doesn't work then sure |
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| 18:42.45 | wallbroken_ | when i use apt |
| 18:43.00 | wallbroken_ | it downloads from an ftp? |
| 18:43.04 | wallbroken_ | or http ? |
| 18:43.26 | greycat | From http one hopes. However it is configured. FTP services are going away at the end of the year, THANK GODS. |
| 18:43.49 | wallbroken_ | ok, plus: i've set a proxy during the installation |
| 18:43.51 | contrapunctus | lol |
| 18:43.52 | wallbroken_ | how to remove it? |
| 18:44.14 | greycat | it'll be in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
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| 18:45.33 | wallbroken_ | greycat, i just need to comment that line? |
| 18:45.42 | greycat | Yes. Or delete the line. |
| 18:45.56 | greycat | Comments in that file are // |
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| 18:48.06 | wallbroken_ | it's not working :\ |
| 18:48.20 | wallbroken_ | oh, now yes |
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| 18:51.10 | wallbroken_ | god, the repository i've chosen is tooooo slow |
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| 19:09.34 | algun|home | Is there something I could use to observe CPU usage spikes attributed to processes that caused them? |
| 19:10.24 | petemc | you can run top periodically with the output sent to a file |
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| 19:10.27 | algun|home | Something like top with history, and probably a graph (not sure how else this would be usable) |
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| 19:11.07 | petemc | or ps |
| 19:11.35 | algun|home | petemc: I'd like to view it, preferably without having to code a visualiser |
| 19:12.18 | `Kevin | dont track CPU with ps if you want actual current value |
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| 19:14.02 | jhutchins_wk | algun|home: Have a look at sysstat. There are CPU monitor widgets for most desktops. |
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| 19:14.41 | jhutchins_wk | algun|home: atop supposedly has that ability too, but I've never managed to get anythign useful out of it (my fault, not atop's). |
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| 19:17.39 | algun|home | jhutchins_wk: thanks for your suggestions |
| 19:18.54 | elfranne | I got 3 different users that need to use 3 different (usb) keyboards (custom, with different vendor id) that are connected to the same linux. Can it be done ? Is looking into polkit a step in the right direction ? |
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| 19:19.17 | shtrb | yes, check seats idom |
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| 19:21.32 | elfranne | shtrb exactly what i am looking for ! thx |
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| 19:21.45 | shtrb | *multiseat |
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| 19:23.19 | elfranne | shtrb, yes found that, seat was enough to point me in the right direction |
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| 19:26.52 | shamm | Hey. Trying to get my ssh to work on a work/remote network. When running "sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d -r" I get a few different errors (seems to be different every time). This last time, I got "Did not receive identification string from <MY_IP>". On the remote (non server computer [debian], I'm running "ssh -4 <SERVER_EXTERNAL_IP> -p <SERVER_PORT>". Eve |
| 19:26.53 | shamm | rything works on the same network but not remotely. |
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| 19:28.07 | shamm | Anyone??? |
| 19:28.24 | brw | why are you not using the package? |
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| 19:28.40 | brw | why are you running it by hand? |
| 19:28.45 | shamm | to debug |
| 19:29.03 | shamm | usually I have the normal service running but it doesn't show as much debug info |
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| 19:29.26 | brw | ok, so go edit the config file and increase the log level |
| 19:29.36 | brw | via OPTION="-ddd" |
| 19:29.42 | greycat | Keep the normal service running and launch the debugging version on a *separate port*. |
| 19:29.48 | brw | or also that |
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| 19:30.14 | shamm | whats the problem with manually running it? |
| 19:30.47 | greycat | Nothing, as long as you don't take the *real* service down. |
| 19:31.38 | shamm | I stopped the ssh service with "service stop ssh" before running sshd manually. should I start it back up and try running the daemon manually after? |
| 19:31.40 | brw | I just like to let the system do what it is supposed to do. Takes any errors I make out of it |
| 19:32.11 | greycat | Let the normal daemon run normally, and run your debugging instance on a separate port. |
| 19:32.16 | Maid-Chan | shamm, has it worked in the past? do you have open ports along the pathway? (including at the ISP) |
| 19:32.21 | greycat | /usr/sbin/sshd -d -P 2225 or whatever |
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| 19:32.44 | shamm | I checked canyouseeme on the port and it could see it open |
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| 19:32.50 | greycat | ah, it's -p |
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| 19:33.39 | shamm | when I run /usr/sbin/sshd, it says that it's listening on ": : port <MY_PORT>" |
| 19:34.27 | shamm | it's going to be pretty tough to get the debugging instance running, I can't mess with ports until I get back. |
| 19:34.36 | shamm | only have the one port open. |
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| 19:34.55 | greycat | ... and you didn't bother to MENTION THIS UP FRONT |
| 19:35.03 | greycat | So your problem is firewalls, not ssh. |
| 19:35.21 | shamm | I have <MY_PORT> open |
| 19:35.42 | shamm | and canyouseeme.com shows that it can see the service on <MY_PORT> |
| 19:35.53 | greycat | So THAT is why you are fucking around with bringing down the production daemon. Because of this stupid ridiculous firewall. |
| 19:36.16 | greycat | But you couldn't be bothered to mention this. |
| 19:36.40 | Maid-Chan | greycat you've actually missed stuff he did say. i understood the scenario as it is. |
| 19:36.46 | shamm | I don't know what I missed. I'm a bit new at this so I'm sorry if I forgot something. |
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| 19:38.15 | greycat | If lines were eaten by lag, then I don't know how to work around that. But looking at /lastlog shamm, he did NOT say that he "only have the one port open" until 15:34 |
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| 19:38.20 | Maid-Chan | i presume that the "external ip" is the one being reported to canyouseeme? |
| 19:38.20 | shamm | and I'm pretty sure the network isn't the problem. On the server, I get a message saying "Connection from <REMOTE_PC_IP> port <REPOTE_PORT> on <SERVER_INTERNAL_IP> port <SERVER_PORT> |
| 19:38.44 | shamm | Maid-Chan: yep |
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| 19:39.48 | Maid-Chan | when you go into work next do you have any way of attempting to connect through an external route so you can debug the remote connection while seeing both sides? |
| 19:39.48 | algun|home | jhutchins_wk: actually, this doesn't seem to log processes and therefor cannot solve my problem |
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| 19:40.09 | shamm | greycat: again, I' sorry if I failed to mention some relevant info, like I said, I'm a bit new to this. |
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| 19:40.42 | algun|home | And I could only find 1 visualiser which I couldn't get to run (isag) |
| 19:40.44 | shamm | Maid-Chan: Currently at work and using teamviewer (sorry) on my phone to view the logs |
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| 19:41.16 | Maid-Chan | ohh so it's your home network not your work network that needs reconfiguring? guess i understood that part backwards. |
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| 19:41.33 | algun|home | Or rather, it ran but reported errors |
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| 19:42.01 | Maid-Chan | fwiw i've reconfigured ports using teamviewer before. :P |
| 19:42.04 | shamm | I think so. I feel like it was working fine when I was on cellular data which would mean that my work internet is blocking something |
| 19:42.30 | shamm | but I can't test that now b/c I have 1x and no bars on cellular |
| 19:42.51 | Maid-Chan | that could be. can you ask the it dep if they are blocking any prots or ports? you could also try using a ping or tracert on your 'external ip' |
| 19:42.51 | greycat | ... |
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| 19:43.34 | greycat | 15:42 "and I'm doing something through a cell phone" |
| 19:43.59 | shamm | I checked and there are no ports being blocked. Don't know about the prots tho. Any way I can check it through an online tool or something? |
| 19:44.13 | Maid-Chan | actually greycat that message said he's not doing through cellular but it worked when he did. |
| 19:44.32 | greycat | I can't follow this crap. Secrets, obfuscations, omissions and lies. |
| 19:45.32 | Maid-Chan | how did you check the ports? outbound are really only checkable by getting a successful connection afaik, canyouseeme can't see them. as for protocols. honestly no idea if there is a way to test for it. |
| 19:45.37 | jhutchins_wk | algun|home: Did you look at atop? |
| 19:45.50 | jhutchins_wk | algun|home: It does per process + history. |
| 19:46.01 | shamm | greycat: I'm not trying to waste your time, I have a problem to solve and if you don't want to help, that's fine. All devices that I have with me (debian laptop and android phone w/ teamviewer) |
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| 19:47.27 | shamm | Maid-Chan: I get a message when running sshd in debug mode that there is a connection from <WORK_IP> so I think it gets a successful connection. |
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| 19:51.06 | algun|home | I have gnome installed, why does apt-get want to autoremove these gnome packages then: https://paste.debian.net/plain/985947? |
| 19:51.16 | spigot | openvpn is connecting in a network namespace, so systemd-networkd-wait-online-device is unavailable. short of a conditionalPathExists line in the .service file, looking for a tmpfile created by the opevpn --route-up option, any easier way to have a dependent systemd service wait until the vpn is actually connected? |
| 19:51.34 | spigot | algun|home: fire up aptitude and see what it wants to do, then you can explore the dependencies there. is what I'd do |
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| 19:52.13 | spigot | sometimes a meta package gets tagged for removal, or there's something wonky with upgrades, and aptitude does a good job of visualizing what apt wants to do to fix it |
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| 19:52.50 | greycat | Personally, what I do is completely disable all autoremoval, by putting APT::NeverAutoRemove "."; in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99local |
| 19:53.57 | spigot | I mean its possible depending on the upgrade that the packages marked for removal aren't actually needed by anything anymore. |
| 19:54.18 | spigot | I rather like that apt cleans up after me and gets rid of packages marked as installed only as a dependency. does that NeverAutoRemove kill that? |
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| 19:54.31 | greycat | Yes. Because that's my preference. |
| 19:54.49 | greycat | If it's on my box, I want it to STAY there, and I want apt to shut the hell up. |
| 19:54.59 | algun|home | spigot: aptitude claims gnome-nettool has unsatisfied dependencies, but it's installed o.O |
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| 19:55.46 | algun|home | greycat: why? |
| 19:56.34 | greycat | because getting literally more than an entire terminal window full of apt telling me that I could remove libimportant1 libsuperimportant2 etc. is really god damned annoying after a few years |
| 19:56.54 | spigot | algun|home: dig a little further in aptitude. check out what it wants to do for the initial resolution, then explore those packages in detail. you could also say OK to whatever it suggests, and then look into why it's doing what it's doing by checking the individual package pages. tey'll list blockers and depenencies etc and the issue should stand out |
| 19:57.05 | greycat | If I run low on disk space, THEN I will manually go through the packages by size and figure out which ones are actually removable. |
| 19:57.16 | spigot | maybe start with gnome-nettool and just scroll down the whole page |
| 20:00.06 | spigot | s/should stand out/will hopefully stand out/ |
| 20:00.19 | teraflops | spigot: tried after=openvpn? |
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| 20:00.28 | algun|home | if only i could find it again... |
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| 20:00.33 | teraflops | openvpn is type=forking though |
| 20:00.43 | spigot | teraflops: good call. openvpn is forking, yup :) |
| 20:01.07 | teraflops | you can try tough |
| 20:01.10 | spigot | teraflops: it lives in a network namespace which really limits systemd's designed solution which is the systemd-networkd-online-wait |
| 20:01.11 | algun|home | or maybe it's showing some different resolution path now |
| 20:01.37 | spigot | algun|home: ctrl-t i think is the menu, you can clear all proposed changes and start over |
| 20:01.47 | teraflops | after= works pretty well with oneshot services |
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| 20:02.03 | algun|home | restarted but still can't find it |
| 20:02.13 | algun|home | spigot: will try |
| 20:02.19 | spigot | teraflops: really I just want the vpn connection before deluge starts up, it's also a forking lol |
| 20:02.34 | teraflops | give a try it's free :P |
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| 20:02.56 | brw | spigot: OpenVPN is the bomb dot com. |
| 20:03.04 | teraflops | spigot: then user require= too |
| 20:03.05 | algun|home | cancelling pending actions didn't do it |
| 20:03.06 | teraflops | use^ |
| 20:03.46 | algun|home | oh it's under (g), that's where i found it |
| 20:04.16 | spigot | yeah sorry I may be a bit of a seasoned aptitude user and forget it's all wonky with its buttons |
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| 20:04.38 | spigot | yeah require does the same, it waits until it forks |
| 20:04.43 | teraflops | spigot: also if gnupg devels can throw sleeps at their code dont be ashamed of doing the same :P |
| 20:05.03 | spigot | :P I have considered it and likewise feel it's very hacky |
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| 20:05.21 | teraflops | try requires and after I think |
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| 20:06.00 | spigot | good call :P same behavior. it's waiting until the fork completes. your suggestion would work if the process exiting signaled the vpn was connected |
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| 20:06.32 | spigot | the namespace gets set up, openvpn is started, then I need to run a quick script to get a port open from PIA, and feed that to deluge once it's up |
| 20:07.00 | spigot | I guess... if I fire up deluge in the namespace it's fine if the vpn isn't up because it has nowhere to leak. then it'll be up and I can call the port configure script from openvpn --route-up |
| 20:07.46 | algun|home | spigot: idk what i was supposed to find, but i just went ahead with whatever it wanted to do, and now crap |
| 20:08.03 | spigot | @brw I am very impressed with how easy it was for me to setup a VPN namespace with systemd and openvpn. the config structure with its includes is super handy, too. a few common files per provider works well |
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| 20:08.19 | spigot | algun|home: so it instaled/removed/did something and now it's unhappy? or you did't go ahead with that much yet |
| 20:08.36 | spigot | we should be able to find the issue in aptitude. I didn't mean to toss you in the deep end and walk off :P |
| 20:08.39 | algun|home | spigot: it's deinstalling all sorts of stuff at the moment |
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| 20:09.16 | algun|home | maybe even more than apt-get wanted to |
| 20:09.18 | spigot | yeah I should have stressed to use that as a guide to what it wants to do, not to actually let it go :P but worst case you re-install a bunch of stuff. do you know the gnome meta package you have installed by chance? iirc there's a few nested ones |
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| 20:09.37 | teraflops | spigot: at this point writing a custom deluge service looks easier |
| 20:09.45 | algun|home | spigot: i guess gnome? |
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| 20:10.04 | algun|home | "Unknown media type in type 'all/all'" also sounds promising |
| 20:10.04 | teraflops | spigot: you can check openvpn is already running then start it |
| 20:10.14 | spigot | teraflops: my deluge, flexget and network namespace setup scripts are mostly custom :D I found the network namespace stuff online and adapted it |
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| 20:10.46 | algun|home | spigot: anyway, i still don't know how to find out the why |
| 20:10.51 | teraflops | then tell yourdeluge.service check if openvpn is working then start deluge |
| 20:10.57 | spigot | teraflops: that's the kicker, openvpn is running way before the tunnel is actually up. I'll just add a script to run after the connetion is made (you can specify such scripts in openvpn) and touch a file, and then remove it with the down scripts |
| 20:11.08 | teraflops | spigot: looks easier |
| 20:11.21 | spigot | algun|home: let me know when it stops doing stuff and we'll go back into what it removed and see |
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| 20:12.31 | algun|home | spigot: just did |
| 20:12.36 | spigot | teraflops: I learned tons about systemd, and I'm stoked about the network namespace keeping anything from leaking out the vpn. I might post them all in a gist somewhere when they finalize |
| 20:12.51 | teraflops | spigot: forking is a bitch |
| 20:13.31 | spigot | algun|home: lets see, jessie? stretch? |
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| 20:14.04 | teraflops | spigot: headless server or is there always a user logged in? |
| 20:14.10 | spigot | teraflops: yeah. I think I did it because... it seemed the preferred method over not. it might have had to do with getting logs in the right place the easiest way, I don't remember. |
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| 20:14.55 | teraflops | if you always have user there, making a --user unit should work I guess |
| 20:15.00 | spigot | teraflops: I installed debian, then tossed openmediavault on it, which is mostly just a web interface with a system admin/user UI, and it'll eventualy be an HTPC |
| 20:15.10 | teraflops | nvm then |
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| 20:16.51 | spigot | teraflops: nah I think I got all the units the way I need them. systemd is designed to have me use the wait-online.target and it just doesn't (rightfully) work for interfaces in a network namespace. I'll probably create a standalone target vpn-up and have it have a single dependency on a file existing, and have openvpn create/destroy it. then things can depend/bindTo that target |
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| 20:17.14 | spigot | it just feels hacky and sometimes people have a sneaky way they found :D |
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| 20:20.48 | spigot | wait- that is hacky. i can just have a .target that does literally nothing, and just have openvpn start and stop it when the link goes up/down, I bet |
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| 20:31.18 | teraflops | spigot: hmm idk |
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| 20:47.22 | ws2k3 | my debian wont boot. im getting in busybox. i need to change the partition its trying to boot from. can i do this from busybox? |
| 20:47.35 | jhutchins_wk | ldap is such fun. |
| 20:49.09 | dondelelcaro | ws2k3: specifying it in grub is the easiest way, then boot, and fix it in /etc/default/grub |
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| 20:50.20 | ws2k3 | dondelelcaro how should i do that? should i mount the fs somewhere? |
| 20:51.41 | dondelelcaro | ws2k3: figure out what the right root filesystem is, then reboot, and edit the kernel command line in grub to include the correct root= option |
| 20:52.00 | dondelelcaro | ws2k3: then you should be able to boot, and then edit /etc/default/grub appropriately |
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| 20:52.41 | lolek | hi everybody |
| 20:52.48 | lolek | I've got some odd situation with pcscd |
| 20:53.08 | lolek | got the latest version build everything by hand, and it seems it works now I did want it to be started automatically |
| 20:53.12 | lolek | but somehow it doesn't |
| 20:53.47 | lolek | when I try to run it with systemctl start pcscd.socket I've got reply: Failed to start pcscd.socket: Unit pcscd.socket is masked. and tbh I'm out of ideas |
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| 21:00.23 | dondelelcaro | ws2k3: you should also be able to mount the root filesystem on /root, and then exit out of busybox, and hopefully it will continue booting |
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| 21:02.13 | ws2k3 | dondelelcaro i tryed but that doesnt work(mounting on /root) |
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| 21:02.39 | ws2k3 | dondelelcaro i know my fs is /dev/sdb1 i only dont know how i should edit grub to boot that (at the grub menu at boot) |
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| 21:04.12 | dondelelcaro | ws2k3: hit 'e' to edit the line, and then change the root= parameter of the kernel line to be root=/dev/sdb1 instead of whatever it is currently |
| 21:04.36 | dondelelcaro | then C-x to boot, IIRC. |
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| 21:04.50 | dondelelcaro | grub should give you help right below telling you what to do |
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| 21:10.01 | ws2k3 | dondelelcaro booted. where should i change the partition in debian itself? |
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| 21:13.32 | at0m | ws2k3: probably choose boot partition best as UUID, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | grep sdb1 |
| 21:13.36 | wallbroken_ | gdm is built in lxde-core ? |
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| 21:14.17 | ws2k3 | at0m and just modify /etc/fstab or? |
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| 21:14.55 | ws2k3 | at0m i see my fstab is already good. only grub is poiting to the wrong partition how can i change that |
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| 21:18.35 | at0m | ws2k3: for fstab, and iirc, using grub-mkconfig or grub-install |
| 21:19.15 | ws2k3 | at0m i modified /boot/grub/grub.cfg and that worked should i do anything else? |
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| 21:22.49 | at0m | afaik that will get overwritten on grub update |
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| 22:03.50 | mandeep | j ##C |
| 22:04.02 | mandeep | oops |
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| 22:04.16 | Marll | is either testing or unstable Debian - rolling updating OSs ? |
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| 22:06.56 | Steve | What's the best way to elevate the right of a handle on windows? |
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| 22:12.00 | bezaban | Marll: not really no |
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| 22:14.32 | bezaban | in a way, but no focus on CI |
| 22:14.41 | Marll | bezaban: there are other OS's that say they are rolling release even though they are based on Debian testing/unstable. Is it possible for a derivative to be rolling release if their parent OS is not? |
| 22:14.45 | bezaban | but it usually just 'works' |
| 22:14.55 | bezaban | Marll: it is |
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| 22:16.04 | bezaban | do you want the latest available package or do you want the latest available known, confirmed working package |
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| 22:17.05 | Marll | i want the latest of course |
| 22:17.09 | Marll | i dont care if it works |
| 22:17.13 | bezaban | development is happening fast, regardless of what people consider old |
| 22:17.47 | Marll | + I heard Debian touches their packages/programs in some ways, editing them before letting them to the users. |
| 22:17.54 | Marll | Maybe I just misunderstood |
| 22:18.00 | Marll | but It doesnt sound like something I'd like |
| 22:18.07 | bezaban | Marll: what is your goal? |
| 22:18.08 | bezaban | !goal |
| 22:18.08 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
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| 22:21.58 | Marll | !goal |
| 22:21.58 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 22:22.09 | Marll | bezaban I have no goal |
| 22:22.16 | babilen | None at all? |
| 22:22.29 | babilen | Why are you here then? |
| 22:22.36 | Marll | Yeah, I just want things to be the way I want them |
| 22:22.43 | bezaban | I'm afraid I can't help with that |
| 22:22.44 | Marll | it's the goal in of itself |
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| 22:23.27 | Marll | just want to set up an OS the way I want to see it, it's not a practical view since I could just use some simple distro where everything just works |
| 22:24.01 | babilen | And you believe that Debian will help you achieve that goal? |
| 22:26.59 | rotaticus | where is that "everything just works" distro? i've been googling for that for a while |
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| 22:30.59 | Steve | !goal |
| 22:31.00 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 22:31.08 | Steve | !goal |
| 22:31.30 | Steve | Elevate the privileges of a thread I got from a process |
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| 22:32.14 | Marll | rotaticus: try LXLE |
| 22:33.00 | Marll | it's basically Lubuntu LTS + very useful software and... everything just works |
| 22:33.47 | rotaticus | no way -- it's ubuntuuu |
| 22:34.18 | coruja | !ot |
| 22:34.18 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 22:35.22 | Steve | I don't care I still want to elevate the privileges |
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| 22:36.08 | Marll | rotaticus: it's not ubuntu |
| 22:36.31 | Marll | VERY different |
| 22:37.05 | Marll | Like. Everything was removed and only some good and better things were put back on, and no bloatware, no amazon, no such things. |
| 22:37.11 | Marll | Also very lightweight |
| 22:37.22 | Marll | 150mb ram on idle |
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| 22:37.39 | coruja | which part of off-topic don't you understand? |
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| 22:38.52 | Marll | sorry didnt notice that coruja |
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| 22:51.58 | elfranne | i am looking into starting 4 X session as a multiseat. Is there a way of spliting your screen into 4 ? (like multiplayer on a console/ video surveillance camera) |
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| 22:52.39 | somiaj | elfranne: I don't belive so, this would have to be at the driver/hardware level to give each 'subscreen' to each xsession. |
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| 22:56.53 | elfranne | somiaj, thx |
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| 23:16.20 | Lyberta | I'm packaging a C++ static library, do I need ${misc:Depends} and ${shlibs:Depends}? |
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| 23:17.53 | somiaj | Lyberta: are you packing for yourself or for the debian archive? |
| 23:18.23 | Lyberta | somiaj, right now I'm packaging for myself, but eventually I would want it to go into debian |
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| 23:18.48 | somiaj | Lyberta: well #packaging on irc.freenode.net is a good place to ask packing questions, #debian-mentors is to get specifics on getting packages into the debian archive. |
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| 23:19.02 | somiaj | I don't know the detials enough to say wiehter you needs those variable depends or not |
| 23:19.08 | Lyberta | somiaj, thanks |
| 23:19.16 | Lyberta | #packaging |
| 23:19.19 | Lyberta | oops |
| 23:19.20 | somiaj | Lyberta: I mean irc.oftc.net |
| 23:19.26 | somiaj | Lyberta: you have to switch networks... |
| 23:19.32 | somiaj | (to the offical debian irc network) |
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| 23:22.09 | Penta | Greetings! How can I change the page labeling in a DjVu file? |
| 23:22.42 | Penta | The actual page 1 from the book starts on page 9 of the document |
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| 23:24.31 | tw | is there a way to see the date a package was published? |
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| 23:30.36 | coruja | tw, maybe not accurate enough, but the changelog has date/time entries |
| 23:31.33 | coruja | (apt changelog <Package>) |
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| 23:48.08 | tw | coruja: thanks, that's close enough. |
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| 23:48.53 | tw | I was looking to see if the bt l2cap stuff had been fixed in linux-image*. Doesn't appear so yet. |
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| 23:54.01 | coruja | for stable and oldstable this is/should be fixed by yesterday's security update of bluez |
| 23:54.43 | coruja | (or today's, depending on time zone) |
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