| 00:00.11 | anonrate | I went to stretch because I wanted Plasma 5.. |
| 00:00.20 | jim | I'm moreorless aware of that :) |
| 00:00.30 | anonrate | Yes you are jim, yes you are. xD |
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| 00:01.24 | anonrate | Well lets start cloning! |
| 00:01.46 | jim | heh... which option you going for? |
| 00:02.18 | anonrate | Ima try to compile it and what ever I need to do so. |
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| 00:03.47 | jim | ok, you might want to set the --prefix to somewhere like your home dir... unless you want to try the backport (which looks like a LOT of effort) |
| 00:04.27 | jim | how much unpartitioned disk space do you have? |
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| 00:04.45 | anonrate | More than enough. Just a couple dozen TB... |
| 00:05.03 | anonrate | Not all hooked up at once of course. |
| 00:05.11 | jim | you... -could- install a dual boot |
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| 00:05.28 | jim | and install stable, upgrade it to testing |
| 00:05.42 | ivegotasthma | hello, is it possible to do a graphical installation of debian with full disc encryption with headless mode? |
| 00:05.47 | jim | you'd still have your stable laying around |
| 00:05.47 | anonrate | I've done that before. LMFAO |
| 00:06.08 | anonrate | With full disk encryption yes, headless part... I don't know. |
| 00:06.23 | jim | graphical headless? |
| 00:06.37 | ivegotasthma | headless encryption |
| 00:07.13 | ivegotasthma | ie, no headers |
| 00:07.13 | jim | I'd say parts of this are possible |
| 00:08.51 | ivegotasthma | can you give me a link? |
| 00:10.14 | sypher | Define "no headers." |
| 00:10.59 | ivegotasthma | sypher: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Specialties#Encrypted_system_using_a_remote_LUKS_header |
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| 00:12.12 | jim | is dm-crypt where you encrypt a pv? |
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| 00:14.31 | BadSnappa | currently using Debian/Jessie on a laptop on which I've installed X/Openbox/wpa_supplicant |
| 00:14.52 | BadSnappa | How do I get systemd to start wpa_supplicant with my configuration file? |
| 00:17.05 | BadSnappa | currently ExecStart=/sbin/wpa_supplicant -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -u -s -dd in wpa_supplicant.service |
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| 00:17.25 | BadSnappa | but my configuration file seems to be ignored. Starting it manually it's fine |
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| 01:12.41 | n11cky | can anyone recommend a disk setup for a laptop with an ssd and hard drive? Is it better to setup the ssd as a cache for the larger drive, or to put specific mount points ( /boot, /usr ) on the faster drive and mount /home on the larger one? |
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| 01:13.18 | bazhang | not really |
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| 01:13.46 | bazhang | whats the ram cpu and gpu on that |
| 01:14.08 | n11cky | 16gb ram, integrated intel gpu. I guess the crux of the question is how far bcache and lvmcache have come |
| 01:14.10 | daio | I would spend a few quid and replace the hard drive for another ssd |
| 01:14.14 | daio | far better heat and power profile |
| 01:14.30 | daio | if you need some cheap mass storage stick it on NAS or USB |
| 01:15.33 | n11cky | yeah that's a good point, I have some servers where I can store most of my data. |
| 01:17.29 | daio | :) |
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| 01:58.41 | jak2000 | hi |
| 01:59.24 | jak2000 | i have a server, strange if create a Raid-1 i dont see the space during the installation.... if erase the raid-1 i can see my hard disk, how to fix this? |
| 02:02.34 | anonrate | jim, wel it's doing something... |
| 02:02.56 | anonrate | RAID1 youi don't get extra space jak2000 |
| 02:03.50 | SwedeMike | jak2000: what server, how are you creating the raid-1? In a RAID card with BIOS? |
| 02:03.58 | jak2000 | yes |
| 02:04.08 | jak2000 | or can i create the raid 1 |
| 02:04.11 | jak2000 | during the installation? |
| 02:04.11 | anonrate | Good boy, so a real raid. ^.^ |
| 02:04.15 | SwedeMike | so what kind of raid card? |
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| 02:06.14 | anonrate | Holy poo hole GCC is taking a long time to compile even with dedicated 8 jobsj.... |
| 02:06.44 | jak2000 | SwedeMike: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/systems/servers/towers/thinkserver/ts140/ |
| 02:06.46 | jak2000 | i have this |
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| 02:07.38 | anonrate | LOL! Integrated RAID. |
| 02:08.11 | jak2000 | |
| 02:08.11 | jak2000 | Integrated ThinkServer RAID 100 (0/1/10/5) |
| 02:08.36 | anonrate | So it's not a card then. |
| 02:08.51 | jak2000 | raid1, Mirror i choose 2 harddisks.... |
| 02:09.02 | SwedeMike | that looks like regular intel motherboard fake-raid |
| 02:09.02 | jak2000 | my debian net inst not see the space...., why? |
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| 02:09.16 | anonrate | That's what I'm saying SwedeMike |
| 02:09.42 | anonrate | What do you have the sata or sczi set to? |
| 02:09.45 | anonrate | Do you have it set to RAID? |
| 02:09.49 | anonrate | IDE or AHCI? |
| 02:10.04 | SwedeMike | hm, http://www.lenovo.com/images/products/server/pdfs/tech_resources/Configuring_RAID_100_on_TS430.pdf seems to show pages of an LSI Megaraid |
| 02:10.04 | jak2000 | in the bios/ |
| 02:10.12 | jak2000 | ? |
| 02:10.22 | anonrate | Yes sir. |
| 02:11.04 | SwedeMike | jak2000: so you've set the disks to RAID mode and then gone into the LSI configuration and created an RAID1 array? |
| 02:11.21 | SwedeMike | jak2000: as shown in the guide I pasted lin kto? |
| 02:11.25 | SwedeMike | link to |
| 02:12.30 | jak2000 | isnt diferent the bios |
| 02:12.36 | jak2000 | is a diferent bios |
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| 02:13.05 | anonrate | Just look for a settings that says IDE, AHCI or RAID |
| 02:13.05 | jak2000 | wait i am publish a photos |
| 02:13.34 | SwedeMike | jak2000: http://serverfault.com/questions/522321/using-software-raid-vs-firmware-raid-a-k-a-fakeraid claims that controller needs some special device driver. |
| 02:13.55 | anonrate | That is if you have a card, you don't. |
| 02:14.12 | anonrate | Oh wait. |
| 02:14.14 | SwedeMike | anonrate: it seems there is some kind of PCI device, so it's some weird in-between |
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| 02:14.31 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/41ex9yd0n/ <---- the raid created |
| 02:14.45 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/wfkctu0kn/ <-- the bios? i am ok? |
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| 02:14.55 | anonrate | Then he is going to need to find the drivers on the manufactures website, load them onto a usb and load the drivers during installation. |
| 02:15.28 | anonrate | It looks like it. |
| 02:15.29 | SwedeMike | well, the pictures he posted now is frmo intel rapid storage RAID. That's not the LSI one |
| 02:15.30 | jak2000 | SwedeMike see the images? |
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| 02:15.56 | jak2000 | need more images? |
| 02:16.08 | jak2000 | i am started the isntallation with a USB memory |
| 02:16.19 | jak2000 | *installation |
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| 02:16.23 | anonrate | This is like when everyone was trying to diagnose why one machine wasn't connecting to this guys sever.. At the last minute after hours of trying to help him he mentioned one thing.. |
| 02:16.26 | anonrate | Virtual Machine.. |
| 02:16.40 | pingfloyd | jak2000: you should be able to get to raid configuration by ^-m on startup |
| 02:17.41 | SwedeMike | jak2000: try the guide I pasted before, there should be a different menu to configure the raid in. |
| 02:17.57 | pingfloyd | anonrate: that's why I don't waste my time on people that can't explain their issue with any sense |
| 02:18.01 | jak2000 | pingfloyd ok wait please |
| 02:18.05 | SwedeMike | jak2000: I have no idea if that will work, but could be worth a try. I can't find any resources how to install Debian on a setup like yours. |
| 02:18.23 | anonrate | Yup, pingfloyd was there. He knwos what's up. |
| 02:18.37 | pingfloyd | anonrate: like when you get someone asking for help but wants to spoon feed you information about their problem. They can fuck off. |
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| 02:19.12 | anonrate | Right? Like there is books that you can flip pages with spoons for. |
| 02:20.15 | anonrate | You were actually one of the first people that helped me when I made my transition to Linux and I was at first using Kali. |
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| 02:20.38 | pingfloyd | anonrate: so you liking debian I take it |
| 02:20.39 | jak2000 | SwedeMike |
| 02:20.42 | MadJin | names |
| 02:20.52 | anonrate | Yes I do. Just the repos are old for jessie. |
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| 02:21.18 | anonrate | Right now I'm compiling gcc-6 for jessie. |
| 02:22.26 | SwedeMike | anonrate: what's changed in gcc 6 that you need? |
| 02:22.37 | jak2000 | SwedeMike you mean follow this link? |
| 02:22.38 | jak2000 | http://serverfault.com/questions/522321/using-software-raid-vs-firmware-raid-a-k-a-fakeraid |
| 02:22.40 | anonrate | c++14 |
| 02:22.51 | anonrate | SNS is the exact reason why I want it. |
| 02:22.58 | SwedeMike | jak2000: http://www.lenovo.com/images/products/server/pdfs/tech_resources/Configuring_RAID_100_on_TS430.pdf |
| 02:23.50 | jak2000 | SwedeMike i am havent problem create the raid |
| 02:24.01 | jak2000 | the problem is how to see the space on my debian installation? |
| 02:24.03 | anonrate | Oh buda, I can feel the heat coming from my RAD for my CPU.... |
| 02:24.14 | anonrate | Configure it from in the installation. |
| 02:24.20 | anonrate | Set up the raid from there. |
| 02:24.25 | SwedeMike | jak2000: if you're not even willing to read the documents I paste to you, I'm not very inclined to try to help you. |
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| 02:24.40 | anonrate | Lets get the spoons. |
| 02:24.42 | jak2000 | ok SwedeMike |
| 02:24.47 | jak2000 | reading |
| 02:24.53 | SwedeMike | jak2000: that document shows a different way of creating the raid, in an LSI boot menu. |
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| 02:25.18 | jak2000 | SwedeMike: intereting: Driver Installation |
| 02:25.19 | jak2000 | A ThinkServer RAID 100 device driver must be installed before the operating system can |
| 02:25.19 | jak2000 | use a RAID volume, or any hard drives connected to the controller when configured in |
| 02:25.19 | jak2000 | RAID mode. |
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| 02:25.36 | jak2000 | arghhh lose the links |
| 02:25.49 | SwedeMike | jak2000: that's probably for windows. |
| 02:26.11 | anonrate | *Insert Meme Here of Jacky Chan touching the sides of his head* |
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| 02:28.19 | anonrate | jak2000, When you are partitioning the drives in the setup, are you using guided or manual? |
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| 02:29.27 | jak2000 | guided |
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| 02:30.20 | jak2000 | need be guided or manual? |
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| 02:31.00 | anonrate | Do you know how to do it in manual? |
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| 02:31.06 | anonrate | Do you know where to mount everything? |
| 02:31.19 | anonrate | What swapspace is? If you want it or not? Do you know all of this? |
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| 02:31.59 | jak2000 | yes |
| 02:32.04 | jak2000 | i have 32GB of RAM |
| 02:32.16 | jak2000 | 64 GB of swa right? |
| 02:32.19 | anonrate | NO@ |
| 02:32.26 | anonrate | You're going by Windows |
| 02:32.45 | anonrate | What is swap space intended for? Do you know? It's a serious in general question. |
| 02:32.49 | anonrate | Just want to make sure. |
| 02:33.27 | SwedeMike | ananke: well, that rule is a 30 year old Unix rule. |
| 02:33.40 | SwedeMike | ananke: to have 2x swap compared to ram |
| 02:33.44 | SwedeMike | bah |
| 02:33.46 | anonrate | Right? |
| 02:33.49 | jak2000 | my tech tell me the swap would be the double of memory... |
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| 02:33.56 | anonrate | If??????? |
| 02:34.00 | SwedeMike | ananke: sorry, I meant for anonrate |
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| 02:34.37 | anonrate | I know SwedeMike, but if he googled it he would of known.. Ya. Lol. |
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| 02:34.41 | SwedeMike | jak2000: that is an old rule that you don't really need to follow anymore. It demeds. |
| 02:34.51 | SwedeMike | depends |
| 02:34.59 | anonrate | jak2000, Do you thikn you're going to run low of memory? |
| 02:35.25 | anonrate | Yes, never follow that rule. If any rule, 1.2x physicaly. |
| 02:35.45 | SwedeMike | I tend to not even add any swap nowadays on machines with large amount of ram |
| 02:36.21 | anonrate | Same here. |
| 02:36.41 | jak2000 | then how many gb of swap recommend me? if have 32gb of ram? |
| 02:36.46 | anonrate | 24GB of RAM, on Windows I would use it all up if doing a render. On Linux... What you gonna do? |
| 02:36.48 | anonrate | Nothing. |
| 02:37.02 | anonrate | You're installation will not fail. |
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| 02:37.25 | jak2000 | this server, if for proxmos virtualization of servers) |
| 02:37.50 | anonrate | I assure you unless your installing off of a blu ray disk or 64GB flashdrive and choose to load it all into RAM.. |
| 02:38.03 | jak2000 | understand |
| 02:38.21 | jak2000 | then tou recommend me 128gb for swap? |
| 02:38.24 | jak2000 | or more? |
| 02:38.36 | anonrate | Read what SwedeMike has said. |
| 02:39.08 | anonrate | Swap is a lot slower than RAM. |
| 02:39.18 | anonrate | Do you think you're going to use all 32GB of it? |
| 02:39.33 | jim | you could have zero swap |
| 02:39.41 | anonrate | Exactly. |
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| 02:40.48 | jak2000 | 0gb swap size??????????? |
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| 02:41.36 | anonrate | Don't even mount it.. |
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| 02:41.40 | daio | jak2000, 4G of swap |
| 02:41.44 | daio | is plenty |
| 02:41.45 | anonrate | Or do that. |
| 02:41.53 | daio | if your using more than that, your system is under powered |
| 02:41.56 | daio | or your loading it to high |
| 02:42.35 | daio | anymore than that, your system spends more time doing memory swapping than anything else |
| 02:42.50 | daio | crippling bandwidth to your ram and hard disk at the same time |
| 02:43.03 | jak2000 | ok |
| 02:43.24 | anonrate | You just wanted him to shutup, didn't you daio? |
| 02:43.36 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/4t2gzd3sl/ |
| 02:43.40 | jak2000 | see please the images |
| 02:43.41 | daio | anonrate, his question was valid, the answers he got where stupid. |
| 02:44.01 | anonrate | Ouch. |
| 02:44.03 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/5l54yk7zp/ |
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| 02:44.23 | daio | jak2000, your installing to USB? |
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| 02:44.44 | daio | if so, use 0 swap |
| 02:44.51 | daio | the usb bus will be saturated enough |
| 02:45.04 | jak2000 | manual partitioning: https://postimg.org/image/klr5zgtb7/ |
| 02:45.14 | jak2000 | daio yes i startup my server with a USB |
| 02:45.22 | daio | so you have a usb based root / |
| 02:45.25 | daio | and the rest is on local disk? |
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| 02:45.46 | anonrate | Or bootload on usb? |
| 02:46.04 | jak2000 | bootload form usb |
| 02:46.12 | anonrate | You need to choose expert install, not just regular install. |
| 02:46.25 | jak2000 | ok |
| 02:46.33 | daio | jak2000, well anyhow, if your /usr /home etc.. are on real disks, the initial thing I said was corect, use a 4G swap |
| 02:46.37 | anonrate | Are you installing the bootloader to the USB because you have EFI? |
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| 02:47.14 | daio | jak2000, and make sure the swap is on a real disk, not usb. |
| 02:47.29 | jak2000 | yes |
| 02:47.46 | anonrate | You don't need to install the bootloader onto the usb.. |
| 02:47.49 | anonrate | Even if you have EFI |
| 02:47.59 | jak2000 | see the images? |
| 02:47.59 | anonrate | I have EFI and I just installed it on the main drive. |
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| 02:49.15 | jak2000 | daio, anonrate, SwedeMike https://postimg.org/image/t6c1fgisv/ |
| 02:49.18 | jak2000 | i am ok? |
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| 02:49.31 | daio | err |
| 02:49.32 | daio | ? |
| 02:49.39 | daio | oh crap |
| 02:49.42 | jak2000 | daio: https://postimg.org/image/wfkctu0kn/ its ok? |
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| 02:49.43 | daio | I thought I was in #freebsd |
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| 02:49.56 | daio | well anyway, 4G is still the same rule |
| 02:49.57 | anonrate | Yes advanced then expter. |
| 02:50.07 | daio | and you will need advanced install or manual |
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| 02:52.24 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/djk04dxnv/ Expert install right? |
| 02:52.53 | anonrate | That is correct. |
| 02:53.07 | jak2000 | how to see my Harddrive ? |
| 02:53.24 | anonrate | Use manual rather than guided. |
| 02:53.38 | Hello71 | dd if=/dev/sda |
| 02:53.45 | RoyK | jak2000: if you can§t see the disk, you lack a driver |
| 02:53.57 | anonrate | It's not a card. |
| 02:54.02 | RoyK | jak2000: lsblk or if that's not present, cat /proc/partitions |
| 02:54.02 | jak2000 | detect disks |
| 02:54.03 | anonrate | It's integreated. |
| 02:54.40 | jak2000 | arghh partition... only see my usb memory |
| 02:54.45 | daio | you could perhaps swap your motherboards display of your disk from whatever it is to AHCI/SATA/PATA |
| 02:54.47 | ananke | lsscsi is also decent |
| 02:54.58 | daio | perhaps RAID |
| 02:55.01 | daio | depending on board |
| 02:55.06 | RoyK | jak2000: /proc/partitions lists disks |
| 02:56.00 | jak2000 | ok RoyK, see please: |
| 02:56.09 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/41ex9yd0n/ |
| 02:56.38 | RoyK | oh - fakeraid? |
| 02:56.44 | anonrate | Yes sir. |
| 02:56.46 | daio | I would stick a RAID0 over those two raid!'s |
| 02:56.49 | daio | I would stick a RAID0 over those two raid1's |
| 02:57.01 | RoyK | !fakeraid |
| 02:57.01 | anonrate | Same here. |
| 02:57.01 | dpkg | Fakeraid is a term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS. For use with Debian systems, it is suggested that you do not set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID instead; ask me about <md>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
| 02:57.08 | jak2000 | now see: https://postimg.org/image/ymh0lxyuz/ |
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| 02:57.30 | RoyK | jak2000: classic fakeraid |
| 02:57.52 | daio | jak2000, I would be half tempted to RAIDZ as well though, if you have the ram ;) |
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| 02:58.29 | RoyK | daio: doesn't require a lot of RAM to use ZFS unless you turn on dedup (don't do it - really!) |
| 02:58.48 | jak2000 | RoyK erase the raid? |
| 02:59.00 | jak2000 | not like the: /proc/partitions list? |
| 02:59.03 | RoyK | jak2000: backup, create an mdraid, restore |
| 02:59.11 | RoyK | jak2000: don't use fakeraid |
| 02:59.14 | daio | jak2000, whichever way you go about it anyhow, you may as well use native raid provided by linux |
| 02:59.20 | daio | instead of using the motherboard fake raid |
| 02:59.25 | daio | it will not give you any performance difference |
| 02:59.35 | daio | it will make your disk access more awkward in your current config though |
| 02:59.55 | jak2000 | then isntall with no raid? |
| 03:00.01 | daio | and native raid provided by linux was wrong in what I just said, ... you may as well use software raid provided by linux |
| 03:00.02 | jak2000 | wait i list the options of raid: |
| 03:00.06 | daio | instad of software raid provided by your mobo :) |
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| 03:00.49 | sypher | jak2000: Learn how to use mdadm in the installer to build a software raid array. mdadm arrays are very performant, just as much so as a fakeraid deployment. |
| 03:01.50 | jak2000 | 1) RAID0(Stripe) 2)Raid1 (Mirror) 3) Raid10(Raid0+1) 4) Raid5 (parity) |
| 03:01.58 | jak2000 | wich use? or no RAID? |
| 03:02.05 | daio | in your situation |
| 03:02.09 | daio | no raid, unlss it via mdadm |
| 03:02.19 | daio | motherboard fake raid will make your install complex or not possible |
| 03:02.22 | daio | and will offer ZERO benefits. |
| 03:02.31 | daio | or head to ebay and get a 3ware or 'real' raid controller |
| 03:02.51 | jak2000 | ok no raid |
| 03:02.59 | RoyK | jak2000: take an advice - use a separate drive (or two in a mirror) for the root - it doesn't need to be big - 10+GB should do - then use mdraid for the data on those big disks |
| 03:03.19 | daio | this would be a perfect time to use a usb device as a primary install device |
| 03:03.26 | RoyK | jak2000: I've been working with storage for some 20 years and have learned that the hard way |
| 03:03.27 | daio | load the BASE os via USB, mdadm those disks together |
| 03:03.33 | daio | then mount them over your key mount points |
| 03:03.52 | jak2000 | ok wait |
| 03:03.55 | jak2000 | no Raid |
| 03:04.00 | jak2000 | start installation i am on root password |
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| 03:04.11 | RoyK | jak2000: do you have any data on those drives? |
| 03:04.19 | jak2000 | not |
| 03:04.24 | jak2000 | i can play with it |
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| 03:04.56 | RoyK | ok, do you have an old 80GB drive or an USB pendrive or something? probably better for the root than mixing data and root |
| 03:05.24 | daio | and usb pen is better than old drive |
| 03:05.27 | daio | can be cloned easy and cheap |
| 03:05.41 | jak2000 | wich choose? 1) Guided use entire disk? 2) Guided use entire disk and setup LVM? 3) 1) Guided use entire disk and setup encrypted LVM? 4) Manual |
| 03:05.54 | jak2000 | i have a 16gb pen drive... |
| 03:05.54 | RoyK | daio: not really - an old spinning drive will live longer |
| 03:06.26 | RoyK | jak2000: ok, use that, use manual install, create a mirror on it with just that drive and add another later for safety |
| 03:06.46 | jak2000 | oo i see my 4 hard diks... |
| 03:06.50 | jak2000 | 1tb each one |
| 03:07.06 | RoyK | on those you use md to create a raid5 or raid6 |
| 03:07.16 | RoyK | on top of those, put lvm |
| 03:07.22 | RoyK | then a filesystem on an lv |
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| 03:08.07 | RoyK | jak2000: always use LVM unless ou have a good reason not to |
| 03:08.20 | sypher | Why are we suggesting parity raid? |
| 03:08.34 | RoyK | sypher: I am |
| 03:08.37 | sypher | Why? |
| 03:08.50 | RoyK | because unless he needs a lot of iops, it's safer |
| 03:09.00 | sypher | RoyK: Than a raid10? |
| 03:09.09 | jak2000 | RoyK: https://postimg.org/image/8wryb1xwd/ |
| 03:09.12 | jak2000 | wich option? |
| 03:09.14 | jak2000 | choose |
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| 03:10.04 | RoyK | sypher: raid6 on four drives means you can lose two drives regardless of where they are, raid10 on four drives can allow for two bad drives on either mirror, not both, the math is simple |
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| 03:10.47 | RoyK | jak2000: put lvm and the root on sde and do the rest later |
| 03:10.49 | sypher | RoyK: Then we get into UREs during rebuilds, etc. I know full well how RAID works. |
| 03:11.21 | RoyK | sypher: just trying to help out here |
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| 03:11.35 | jak2000 | RoyK, put lvm........... mm how? |
| 03:11.37 | sypher | RoyK: Then don't be patronizing when someone else chimes in. |
| 03:12.24 | RoyK | jak2000: sorry - first - choose sde and choose raid device - then create a raid1 with only sde |
| 03:13.03 | jak2000 | ok |
| 03:13.10 | stoned | I would suggest zfs |
| 03:13.16 | jak2000 | next question: create new empty parition table on this device? |
| 03:13.18 | stoned | because that's what I personally use for my storage needs |
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| 03:13.30 | RoyK | jak2000: then you should be able to choose md0 and select it as a physical volume for lvm |
| 03:13.38 | RoyK | stoned: not for the root |
| 03:13.46 | stoned | no, for storage. |
| 03:13.47 | jak2000 | yepri/log 15.5 GB FREES SPACE |
| 03:13.49 | stoned | not for root |
| 03:13.49 | jak2000 | right? |
| 03:13.57 | RoyK | jak2000: yes |
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| 03:14.21 | jak2000 | Enter, ask me: 1) create new parittion, 2) automatically partition the free space, 3) show cylinder/head/sector information |
| 03:14.21 | RoyK | stoned: I've worked with ZFS for ~5 years - I know it quite well ;) |
| 03:14.24 | jak2000 | the first? |
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| 03:14.38 | RoyK | jak2000: pic? |
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| 03:15.31 | jak2000 | ok |
| 03:16.06 | sypher | RoyK: Was going to ask you something a little offtopic, but you're not in #debian-offtopic. |
| 03:17.09 | jak2000 | RoyK: https://postimg.org/image/ngsehj8s3/ |
| 03:17.27 | RoyK | first choice |
| 03:17.38 | jak2000 | new partition 15.5 gb? |
| 03:17.44 | jak2000 | primary or logical |
| 03:18.28 | RoyK | p |
| 03:18.39 | RoyK | doesn't matter much, though |
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| 03:20.54 | jak2000 | now? --> |
| 03:21.03 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/kgnbkw6hb/ |
| 03:22.17 | jak2000 | done setting up the partition right? |
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| 03:23.38 | RoyK | jak2000: set it to 'physical volume for raid' or whatever that was |
| 03:24.24 | jak2000 | pic |
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| 03:25.05 | RoyK | Use as: physical volume for (raid?) |
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| 03:26.46 | jak2000 | yes i have this option selected |
| 03:26.46 | jak2000 | pic |
| 03:27.03 | RoyK | no pic pasted |
| 03:27.10 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/ienc7e7w9/ |
| 03:27.15 | jak2000 | i am right? |
| 03:27.30 | RoyK | yes |
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| 03:29.33 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/t804sny0z/ |
| 03:29.35 | jak2000 | now? |
| 03:30.00 | RoyK | jak2000: then place a raid on it, it'd be degraded, and on that, put lvm |
| 03:30.14 | RoyK | yes, done |
| 03:30.25 | jak2000 | finish partitioning? |
| 03:30.51 | RoyK | yes, you'll get back to the menu and then you can choose to put a raid on it |
| 03:31.06 | jak2000 | no root file system is defined |
| 03:31.20 | jak2000 | pease correct this from the partitioning menu |
| 03:33.19 | RoyK | I didn't mean that - first you make a partiton for RAID systems - then you select configure RAID - then you create a degraded raid on it - then you choose that raid to create a physical partition for LVM and then you create a logical volume (LV) on top of that and on top of that, you choose to place your root filesystem |
| 03:33.54 | jak2000 | v |
| 03:33.55 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/exd234oyt/ |
| 03:34.08 | jak2000 | configure Raid Software? |
| 03:34.08 | RoyK | jak2000: it's a bit complicated at first, but when you get used to the layers of storage, you get used to it |
| 03:34.20 | RoyK | yes |
| 03:34.48 | jak2000 | error :( |
| 03:35.01 | RoyK | what sort of error? |
| 03:35.08 | jak2000 | pic |
| 03:35.22 | RoyK | no pic |
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| 03:35.51 | RoyK | did you choose configure software raid? |
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| 03:36.33 | RoyK | jak2000: ? |
| 03:37.23 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/hgxfks79l/ |
| 03:38.01 | jak2000 | i choose the second option: https://postimg.org/image/exd234oyt/ CONFIGURE SOFTWARE RAID |
| 03:38.20 | RoyK | erm - is that the USB drive from which you are installing the OS? |
| 03:38.29 | jak2000 | yes |
| 03:38.39 | jak2000 | need put other? |
| 03:38.48 | RoyK | well, you can't install the OS on the install drive |
| 03:38.50 | RoyK | obviously |
| 03:38.52 | jak2000 | ok |
| 03:38.55 | jak2000 | wait i start again |
| 03:39.04 | jak2000 | and... put other USB (a second USB) |
| 03:39.09 | RoyK | you need another |
| 03:39.30 | RoyK | hope you haven't written to that |
| 03:39.40 | RoyK | if you have, you'll need to create a new installer |
| 03:40.02 | jak2000 | yes |
| 03:40.06 | jak2000 | rufus, is my friend |
| 03:40.27 | RoyK | I don't know him ;) |
| 03:41.15 | jak2000 | same as unebotin.... or other.... but rufus is better |
| 03:43.49 | pingfloyd | don't use those |
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| 03:44.07 | pingfloyd | !unetbootin |
| 03:44.07 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 03:44.35 | RoyK | !usb install |
| 03:44.35 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 03:46.13 | jak2000 | a memory with 2gb its ok? |
| 03:46.27 | RoyK | should do fine for the installer |
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| 03:46.37 | jak2000 | for the raid not? |
| 03:47.08 | RoyK | installer on the 2GB thing, root on the 16GB thing |
| 03:47.27 | RoyK | the raid is something you can think about later |
| 03:47.45 | RoyK | be it zfs or mdraid or whatever |
| 03:50.03 | jak2000 | ok switched the mems |
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| 03:51.09 | jak2000 | pic |
| 03:51.40 | RoyK | jak2000: you have to post the pic, man |
| 03:53.10 | jak2000 | 2.0 gb <---usb with debian installer, 15.5 gb Empty USB flash drive |
| 03:53.25 | RoyK | seems good |
| 03:53.41 | jak2000 | upload the pic :) |
| 03:54.10 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/od31apoth/ |
| 03:54.22 | jak2000 | choose the 15.5gb usb right ENTER |
| 03:54.33 | RoyK | right |
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| 03:55.06 | jak2000 | select the partition table use: aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, msdos, pc98, sun, loop ? |
| 03:55.12 | RoyK | raid |
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| 03:55.19 | jak2000 | no raid option |
| 03:55.20 | RoyK | just like last time |
| 03:55.28 | RoyK | physical partition for raid |
| 03:55.30 | jak2000 | yes but not see |
| 03:55.32 | RoyK | oh |
| 03:55.37 | RoyK | partition type |
| 03:55.39 | RoyK | msdos |
| 03:55.49 | jak2000 | ok |
| 03:55.55 | jak2000 | configure software raid |
| 03:56.03 | jak2000 | now |
| 03:56.07 | jak2000 | a new screen |
| 03:56.22 | jak2000 | 1) create 1) MD device, Delete 2) MD device 3) Finish? |
| 03:56.28 | jak2000 | create... right? |
| 03:56.29 | RoyK | create MD device |
| 03:56.32 | anonrate | Just so I totally understand correctly, the linux kernel is the OS itself, ya? The the distro like Debian, Ubuntu and such just distribute the linux kernel but offer packages to be used with it from their repos? |
| 03:56.41 | jak2000 | wich type? |
| 03:56.50 | RoyK | jak2000: pic? |
| 03:56.54 | jak2000 | RAID0 Raid1 raid5? raid 6 raid10 |
| 03:57.11 | RoyK | jak2000: raid1 - that's a mirror |
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| 03:57.24 | jak2000 | number of active devices? |
| 03:57.26 | jak2000 | 2? |
| 03:57.28 | RoyK | anonrate: Linux is the kernel - the distro is the OS |
| 03:57.34 | jak2000 | (note i have 4 HDD 1tb each one |
| 03:57.37 | RoyK | jak2000: 1 |
| 03:57.52 | jak2000 | not accept 1 |
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| 03:58.04 | RoyK | jak2000: ok, 2, but only choose 1 |
| 03:58.05 | jak2000 | continue and again ask me number of active devices? |
| 03:58.15 | jak2000 | number of spare devices? |
| 03:58.18 | jak2000 | for the raid1 |
| 03:58.26 | RoyK | 1 active 0 spares |
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| 03:58.44 | jak2000 | pic |
| 03:59.17 | RoyK | anonrate: android uses linux and is another OS than debian or ubuntu, but it's still linux in the core |
| 03:59.50 | RoyK | jak2000: pic? |
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| 04:01.04 | jak2000 | yes uploading |
| 04:01.52 | anonrate | I understand that, I'm just doing some more research on it now. At first I kind of thought it the kernel was the OS that literally has he needed tools to make an os work, but the distro just takes it and slaps it's own features to make it "Their" own. So like for example: To read disks in Debian, Debian made a command line app that used the Kernel Command line app. That's how I kind of saw it. |
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| 04:02.32 | anonrate | I have always had a lot of questions about Linux as it has always faciniated me which is why I switched to it. |
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| 04:02.47 | anonrate | I wont bother you with asking all of them though. I will just use the Googles. |
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| 04:04.11 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/gwuy5r1h9/ |
| 04:04.14 | jak2000 | RoyK see? |
| 04:04.35 | RoyK | anonrate: the kernel is just whatever the libraries like glibc and the rest inteface with |
| 04:04.48 | jak2000 | asterisk and continue? |
| 04:04.52 | RoyK | jak2000: space, continue |
| 04:05.13 | jak2000 | write changes... |
| 04:05.23 | RoyK | then configure LVM |
| 04:05.30 | jak2000 | returned me to menu create md device |
| 04:05.33 | jak2000 | or delete md device |
| 04:05.35 | jak2000 | or finish |
| 04:05.39 | jak2000 | now finish right? |
| 04:05.39 | RoyK | create a smallish LV on top of that |
| 04:05.40 | RoyK | finish |
| 04:05.43 | anonrate | Would be safe to say that it's kind of an API or a Framework, but not at the sametime? |
| 04:05.57 | jak2000 | now configure the LVM ? |
| 04:06.02 | RoyK | create a smallish LV on top of that like 4GB and another one like 1-2GB for swap |
| 04:06.26 | jak2000 | create volume group |
| 04:06.35 | RoyK | anonrate: no, it's far lower level than that, but somehow the same thing |
| 04:06.38 | RoyK | jak2000: yes |
| 04:06.56 | anonrate | Just seeing the samething part I understand a whole lot more now. |
| 04:07.28 | RoyK | anonrate: good |
| 04:07.57 | jak2000 | creaated a 4gb and 2gb lvm |
| 04:08.01 | jak2000 | finish right? |
| 04:08.07 | RoyK | yes |
| 04:08.10 | jak2000 | now? |
| 04:08.13 | jak2000 | pic? |
| 04:08.24 | RoyK | and the set mountpoint to / for the 4GB thing and set the 2GB to swap |
| 04:08.44 | anonrate | The kernel just translates binary so to speak? |
| 04:09.22 | jak2000 | ext4? right? |
| 04:09.28 | RoyK | anonrate: it's the abstraction layer between the hardware and the libraries |
| 04:09.42 | RoyK | jak2000: or xfs or jfs or btrfs or whatever - ext4 should work well |
| 04:10.05 | jak2000 | i am here: |
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| 04:10.45 | RoyK | jak2000: imho ext4 is the best proven fs for linux so far, but it lacks good support for large filesystems (as in 10+TB) |
| 04:11.05 | jak2000 | pic |
| 04:11.14 | RoyK | pica pica |
| 04:11.28 | jak2000 | i am here: |
| 04:11.40 | RoyK | pica pica pica are starting to wake up here |
| 04:11.49 | jak2000 | https://postimg.org/image/oc7fmpbpp/ |
| 04:11.51 | jak2000 | now? |
| 04:12.02 | jak2000 | finish partitioning? |
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| 04:12.10 | RoyK | looks good |
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| 04:13.19 | jak2000 | then finish right? |
| 04:14.08 | RoyK | aye |
| 04:14.29 | jak2000 | ok |
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| 04:15.32 | jak2000 | now install base system? |
| 04:15.44 | RoyK | yes |
| 04:15.46 | RoyK | as usual |
| 04:16.12 | jak2000 | ENTER |
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| 04:17.43 | jak2000 | ............... installing core packages.............. |
| 04:18.07 | jak2000 | 33% |
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| 04:18.44 | jak2000 | mmmm not like me 33% ... |
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| 04:19.15 | jak2000 | ooo 34% |
| 04:19.38 | RoyK | jak2000: https://xkcd.com/612/ |
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| 04:20.36 | jak2000 | :) |
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| 04:21.37 | RoyK | there's an xkcd for most things ;) |
| 04:21.57 | jak2000 | mmm for a programmer Java Programmer? |
| 04:22.01 | jak2000 | 35% arghhhh |
| 04:22.30 | RoyK | anything in dmesg? |
| 04:22.41 | jak2000 | i am wait, 4 minutes |
| 04:22.43 | RoyK | alt+right - press enter |
| 04:23.17 | jak2000 | mounted filesystem with ordered data mode |
| 04:23.20 | jak2000 | how to return ? |
| 04:23.31 | RoyK | alt+left |
| 04:23.41 | jak2000 | 36% |
| 04:23.48 | RoyK | oh well |
| 04:24.06 | RoyK | probably a slow pen drive or slow usb port |
| 04:24.14 | jak2000 | slow pen drive |
| 04:24.51 | RoyK | well, mostly very little i/o goes to the root except logging |
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| 04:27.40 | jak2000 | :( 37% |
| 04:28.19 | pingfloyd | on windows it's got up to 98% in a few seconds and then sits there for days |
| 04:28.36 | pingfloyd | it goes up to* |
| 04:28.46 | RoyK | hence the xkcd ;) |
| 04:28.55 | jak2000 | 38% |
| 04:29.31 | RoyK | jak2000: you'll be kicked for flooding if you don't stop posting every percentage of that installation ;) |
| 04:30.10 | johnkeates | 39%? |
| 04:30.20 | RoyK | 324% |
| 04:30.24 | jak2000 | yes |
| 04:30.33 | johnkeates | 9001% (because, over 9000 you know) |
| 04:30.39 | jak2000 | understand, johnkeates done |
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| 04:30.58 | RoyK | tell me at 42% because as you know, 42 is the answer! |
| 04:31.06 | johnkeates | yes it is |
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| 04:31.46 | RoyK | (the angle of the sun at which a rainbow is possible) |
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| 04:32.29 | stoned | But what is the question? |
| 04:32.33 | RoyK | saw this picture once posted on social media "My mom is my angle" |
| 04:32.40 | stoned | angle? |
| 04:32.44 | stoned | brilliant. |
| 04:32.44 | johnkeates | anglr |
| 04:32.44 | RoyK | :D |
| 04:33.09 | johnkeates | imagine finding your mom in a sex dating app |
| 04:33.26 | RoyK | stoned: i guess the lady in question wasn't very good at grammars |
| 04:33.35 | johnkeates | all of the grammars? |
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| 04:35.08 | RoyK | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRly-0wwl_g |
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| 04:39.17 | RoyK | jak2000: heh - any progress? |
| 04:40.54 | jak2000 | 48% |
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| 04:42.37 | RoyK | get a new and faster USB stick somewhere and just add it to the mirror - create a bitmap for the raid - then remove the other and --re-add the old one with --write-mostly and you'll have the redundancy you want and the read speed of the new one |
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| 04:45.33 | RoyK | jak2000: if the new pendrive is smaller (it might be, pendrives aren't standardised in size such as HDDs are nowadays) you may have to use pvreduce first |
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| 04:46.31 | jak2000 | i am can wait 51% |
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| 04:50.52 | MaBunny | hello guys |
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| 04:51.50 | MaBunny | are there support for touchscreen in debian jessie repos? |
| 04:51.56 | jak2000 | RoyK not sleep: 58% |
| 04:52.29 | MaBunny | i am installing debian for my smartpone to use it anywhere i go |
| 04:52.47 | MaBunny | and i want to hav a console system only |
| 04:53.01 | RoyK | MaBunny: touchscreens mostly work as mice |
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| 04:53.27 | MaBunny | but what im asking is tht is there support for touchscreens,as i would require the |
| 04:53.51 | MaBunny | android keyboard to type the commands |
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| 04:54.15 | MaBunny | i also plan to buy a bluetooth keyboard |
| 04:54.40 | johnkeates | no. |
| 04:54.49 | johnkeates | gui required |
| 04:54.59 | MaBunny | ok |
| 04:55.33 | MaBunny | the fact is ttht im installing the debian on a fat32 scdcard and |
| 04:55.45 | MaBunny | fat32 only supports till 4gb files |
| 04:56.03 | MaBunny | hav you guys ever tried installing debian on android |
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| 04:58.51 | MaBunny | or should i try chrooting the install from my android,open ssh in my computer and ssh into the install and load the kernel modules required? |
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| 05:01.06 | unborn | MaBunny: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Convert-an-Android-Device-to-Linux |
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| 05:04.07 | ransur0t | leave #debian |
| 05:04.15 | MaBunny | yeah i had seen tht page b4 |
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| 05:04.33 | MaBunny | and i hav linux deploy on my phone,just dont kno how to use it |
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| 05:05.08 | johnkeates | it's not for that form factor |
| 05:05.12 | johnkeates | it will not work well |
| 05:05.13 | johnkeates | don't do it |
| 05:05.34 | jak2000 | done |
| 05:05.48 | jak2000 | kernek to install |
| 05:06.24 | jak2000 | 1) linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 2)linux-image-amd64 ? |
| 05:06.29 | jak2000 | wich? |
| 05:06.35 | johnkeates | both |
| 05:06.39 | johnkeates | add freebsd too |
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| 05:06.41 | MaBunny | depends upon your hardware |
| 05:06.54 | MaBunny | well |
| 05:06.57 | MaBunny | nvr mind |
| 05:07.08 | jak2000 | Royk? |
| 05:07.16 | jak2000 | the second? |
| 05:07.26 | MaBunny | linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 05:11.10 | MaBunny | https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxonandroid/ --> looks more promising |
| 05:11.24 | MaBunny | *thn linux deploy |
| 05:12.58 | jak2000 | drivers to include in the initrd? |
| 05:13.15 | jak2000 | generic or targeted? |
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| 05:21.11 | MaBunny | ,v judd Openbox |
| 05:21.12 | judd | No package named 'judd' was found in amd64. |
| 05:21.21 | MaBunny | ,v Openbox |
| 05:21.22 | judd | No package named 'Openbox' was found in amd64. |
| 05:22.04 | MaBunny | ,v armhf Openbox |
| 05:22.05 | judd | No package named 'armhf' was found in amd64. |
| 05:22.21 | MaBunny | ,v Openbox armhf |
| 05:22.22 | judd | No package named 'Openbox' was found in armhf. |
| 05:22.45 | MaBunny | ,v Openbox armel |
| 05:22.46 | judd | No package named 'Openbox' was found in armel. |
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| 05:25.24 | imthenachoman | hey guys...i am using the non-free iso. the deb files are in the firmware folder. when i try the installer can't find them |
| 05:26.49 | MaBunny | you use the iso from the installer cd |
| 05:26.59 | MaBunny | during installation process |
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| 05:28.49 | imthenachoman | i am. i say load it but it doesn't load |
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| 05:30.39 | OtakuSenpai | maybe you need to write tht iso to a pendrive/cd and load tht cd during installation process...idk havent tried it |
| 05:31.12 | OtakuSenpai | what steps did you follow? |
| 05:31.42 | imthenachoman | i download the +nonfree ISO, it has debian install AND firmware. i boot it up, installation starts, but it doesn't find the firmware. i just copied the firmware to a second USB and plugged that in and it seems to have worked |
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| 05:32.44 | imthenachoman | odd |
| 05:33.10 | pingfloyd | which method did you use to put the installer on the usb stick? |
| 05:33.43 | imthenachoman | i used rufus to burn make usb stick from iso |
| 05:33.53 | pingfloyd | that's probably why you're having issues |
| 05:33.57 | jak2000 | RoyK? |
| 05:34.06 | OtakuSenpai | http://superuser.com/questions/267282/how-to-use-non-free-drivers-during-debian-install |
| 05:34.08 | pingfloyd | did you verify the iso after download as well? |
| 05:34.15 | pingfloyd | because the image you used, should just work |
| 05:34.15 | imthenachoman | si |
| 05:34.48 | jmcnaught | OtakuSenpai: this is a better link to share with people |
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| 05:35.02 | pingfloyd | !tell imthenachoman about rufus |
| 05:35.19 | OtakuSenpai | jmcnaught? |
| 05:35.28 | imthenachoman | !usb install |
| 05:35.28 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 05:35.28 | jmcnaught | OtakuSenpai: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
| 05:35.53 | jak2000 | jmcnaught continue helpping me please? |
| 05:36.00 | jak2000 | installed base system now? |
| 05:36.15 | OtakuSenpai | oh ok |
| 05:36.34 | jmcnaught | jak2000: what's going on? |
| 05:36.46 | jak2000 | finished instaled base system |
| 05:36.54 | jak2000 | *installed |
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| 05:39.26 | imthenachoman_ | well here is to hoping this works and doesn't keep randomly crashing like xubuntu |
| 05:39.43 | imthenachoman_ | !win32diskimager |
| 05:39.44 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
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| 05:40.43 | pingfloyd | the key is you want to copy it over raw without any bullshit magic like those others |
| 05:41.43 | OtakuSenpai | imthenachoman: you *should* use win32diskimager |
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| 05:42.22 | jak2000 | rufus its ok |
| 05:42.23 | OtakuSenpai | and if you hav the system keyboards and mouse working atleast,you can add the nonfree repos to sources.list by hand |
| 05:42.42 | OtakuSenpai | then apt-get update and you are set to go |
| 05:43.46 | jmcnaught | there are a few more steps in between win32diskimager and editing sources.list |
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| 05:44.12 | pingfloyd | OtakuSenpai: that's not going to help you though if you need the non-free firmware to get networked so you can install more packages (chicken and egg situation). |
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| 05:44.38 | OtakuSenpai | yeah |
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| 05:46.08 | jmcnaught | also the firmware image only has the redistributable firmwares. for some devices like broadcom b43 you basically don't get wifi during the install, and need to install a package that downloads the firmware from the OEM website |
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| 05:46.33 | jmcnaught | (the package is installed after the first boot) |
| 05:49.01 | OtakuSenpai | jmcnaught how can i add the touchscreen support to my jessie install for android |
| 05:49.27 | OtakuSenpai | i hav the install on my sdcard,which is mounted in my computer atm |
| 05:49.39 | jmcnaught | OtakuSenpai: are you talking about a chroot running on android? |
| 05:49.47 | OtakuSenpai | yes |
| 05:49.51 | OtakuSenpai | ^^ |
| 05:49.51 | OtakuSenpai | \ |
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| 05:50.11 | OtakuSenpai | idk if i want to install linux kernel image or not |
| 05:50.18 | jmcnaught | OtakuSenpai: was it installed by an app? |
| 05:50.23 | OtakuSenpai | i mean i dont kno if i hav to |
| 05:50.30 | OtakuSenpai | jmcnaught no |
| 05:51.36 | OtakuSenpai | i saw in one off the webpages tht openbox is used by their app to give touchscreen support |
| 05:51.44 | OtakuSenpai | maybe |
| 05:52.10 | OtakuSenpai | it was linuxonandroid |
| 05:52.20 | OtakuSenpai | https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxonandroid/files/Debian/Testing/ --> in this webpage |
| 05:52.31 | jmcnaught | do you have an X11 server app for android? the point is i don't use android but it sounds like a problem with and android side |
| 05:52.34 | OtakuSenpai | para 3 |
| 05:52.45 | OtakuSenpai | yeah |
| 05:52.50 | jmcnaught | ^and^the |
| 05:53.16 | OtakuSenpai | well i will install X11 server,but i want to hav touchscreen support atleast |
| 05:53.53 | jmcnaught | OtakuSenpai: i would expect an X11 server app for android to support touchscreens |
| 05:54.02 | OtakuSenpai | ok |
| 05:54.11 | jmcnaught | but it's not a debian issue |
| 05:54.22 | OtakuSenpai | there is an app for X11 servers in android,let me search it |
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| 06:13.22 | OtakuSenpai | jmcnaught you there bro? |
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| 06:14.34 | OtakuSenpai | is there any way to completely remove android on my smartphone and install a debian system,say on a 512mb phone with 4gb storage? |
| 06:15.25 | jak2000 | jmcnaught install grub boot loader on a hard disk? |
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| 06:17.51 | XinZhao | hola |
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| 06:21.42 | XinZhao | So... my windows 10 drive is encrypted fully.. Then on there there's a debian vm with an encrypted /home/ drive... I enter a password when I boot the vm... Then, on there is half RANDOMIZED key (aka a key I dont know), the other half is retrieved from a remote trusted server via ssh. |
| 06:21.48 | XinZhao | reassembled, mounts the seperate encrypted /storage/ partition |
| 06:21.52 | XinZhao | how does that sound? |
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| 06:22.45 | OtakuSenpai | super terrific++ |
| 06:22.54 | XinZhao | any potential holes? |
| 06:23.07 | XinZhao | like, the remote server could be compromised - but they'd only have half a key |
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| 06:23.43 | XinZhao | and all I need to do really is power off the vm to secure the remote access |
| 06:23.50 | XinZhao | or am I mistaken heh |
| 06:24.05 | OtakuSenpai | better ask in ##security |
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| 06:24.33 | XinZhao | awesome, will do - thanks |
| 06:24.42 | OtakuSenpai | cool |
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| 07:34.48 | gared | help me |
| 07:35.06 | gared | please :-( |
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| 07:35.25 | gared | help me |
| 07:35.27 | gared | please :-( |
| 07:36.23 | gared | error on play unzip command with aliases .bashrc |
| 07:37.04 | gared | i concatenate unzip with tee |
| 07:37.24 | gared | but not work .-( |
| 07:37.37 | gared | please :-( |
| 07:37.42 | gared | help me |
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| 07:38.03 | gared | but not work .-( |
| 07:38.43 | gared | hue hue help me!! please |
| 07:38.48 | OtakuSenpai | what command did you type? |
| 07:39.07 | gared | alias unzip='unzip | tee -a /tmp/log.t' |
| 07:39.30 | OtakuSenpai | what does tee do? |
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| 07:39.50 | gared | tee redirect output |
| 07:40.00 | gared | in T mode |
| 07:40.14 | OtakuSenpai | idk nvr used it srry |
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| 07:40.49 | gared | :-( thks |
| 07:41.15 | gared | hue hue help me!! please |
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| 07:41.30 | OtakuSenpai | have patience pls |
| 07:41.50 | gared | :-( ok .... |
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| 07:43.38 | gared | if i type a prompt command it work, but with alias ..... boing.!.!. |
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| 07:44.31 | gared | very bast@rd |
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| 07:46.43 | dutchfish | gared, have you checked your ~/.bashrc for errors? |
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| 07:47.19 | dutchfish | gared, is this a clean debian stable install? |
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| 07:48.28 | pijiu | gared, what is that alias EXACTLY |
| 07:48.43 | pijiu | code |
| 07:48.50 | gared | #alias unzip='unzip | tee -a /tmp/log.t' |
| 07:49.30 | pijiu | delele # in front of line? |
| 07:49.34 | pijiu | *delete |
| 07:49.53 | gared | he he |
| 07:50.03 | pijiu | worked? |
| 07:50.06 | pijiu | :) |
| 07:50.31 | gared | no not run unzip |
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| 07:50.58 | Mathisen | is there a way to list files that has been edited/changed only ? |
| 07:51.03 | darkmatter | hello im running debian 7 for a server, and it randomly rebooted. I'm taking a look at /var/log/syslog and notice the following line: |
| 07:51.04 | darkmatter | Aug 27 00:34:09 openmediavault kernel: [1073028.957277] SoftDog: Unexpected close, not stopping watchdog! |
| 07:51.13 | Mathisen | like in the last hours or so |
| 07:51.27 | darkmatter | ls -lut |
| 07:51.40 | darkmatter | to list the contents of a directory sorted by access time |
| 07:51.53 | darkmatter | you can use the find command, with -mtime to sort by modification time |
| 07:52.02 | Mathisen | thx |
| 07:52.40 | pijiu | gared, unzip shall be followed by some archive filename isnt it? |
| 07:52.49 | gared | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.54 | pijiu | just "unzip" will not do much itself |
| 07:53.03 | gared | tee: opzione non valida -- l |
| 07:53.20 | gared | Usare `tee --help' per ulteriori informazioni. |
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| 07:56.44 | gared | i'm interest logger the output |
| 07:56.53 | gared | unzip command |
| 07:57.22 | pijiu | gared, i just tried executing "unzip -l xxx.zip | tee -a log.txt" and it worked as intended |
| 07:57.37 | pijiu | inbefore i "touch log.txt" to create it by the way |
| 07:57.55 | pijiu | could this be your problem? |
| 07:58.53 | gared | by prompt work, but aliases not work .-( |
| 07:59.25 | pijiu | please share your code |
| 07:59.28 | gared | return an error |
| 07:59.33 | pijiu | which error |
| 07:59.44 | gared | alias unzip='unzip | tee -a /tmp/log.t' |
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| 08:00.00 | gared | unzip -l sorg.zip |
| 08:00.08 | gared | tee: opzione non valida -- l |
| 08:00.16 | gared | Usare `tee --help' per ulteriori informazioni. |
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| 08:00.18 | pingfloyd | gared: I don't think your args will get parsed correctly with that alias |
| 08:00.41 | pijiu | try making it unzipp instead of unzip |
| 08:00.57 | gared | i see |
| 08:01.04 | pingfloyd | gared: you probably want a function or a script that is like: unzip "$@" | tee -a /tmp/log.t |
| 08:01.30 | gared | i try |
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| 08:02.21 | pijiu | making /bin/unzipp with "unzip "$@" | tee -a /tmp/log.t" in it could probably be a solution too |
| 08:02.39 | gared | hue hue not work :-(( |
| 08:02.51 | gared | idem result |
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| 08:04.15 | gared | not pass correctly parameters, but why???? |
| 08:04.21 | pingfloyd | name shouldn't matter, because of precedence with the shell |
| 08:04.46 | pijiu | gared, i just created /bin/unz as said above and it worked fine |
| 08:05.41 | gared | run alias??? |
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| 08:06.57 | pijiu | echo 'unzip "$@" | tee -a /tmp/log.t' > /bin/unz && chmod +x /bin/unz |
| 08:07.08 | pijiu | then "unz file.zip" |
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| 08:07.11 | pijiu | try? |
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| 08:08.41 | pijiu | u can make it "unzip -l if u want too |
| 08:09.21 | gared | try |
| 08:09.54 | gared | inkia |
| 08:10.02 | pijiu | ? |
| 08:10.22 | gared | Ok |
| 08:10.28 | pijiu | worked? |
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| 08:10.36 | gared | very very thks |
| 08:10.42 | pijiu | enjoy |
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| 08:25.13 | Minege | Hi |
| 08:25.35 | Minege | <Minege> I have modified my grub config file to boot to another kernel, with string and with number <Minege> every time it block to boot <Minege> so, it can't boot at all <Minege> and i need to reinstall my server |
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| 08:28.15 | pijiu | Minege, what is your question |
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| 08:28.50 | Minege | Hi |
| 08:28.52 | Minege | My question is |
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| 08:29.04 | Minege | How can i do the boot working |
| 08:29.10 | Minege | I've already tested : |
| 08:29.16 | pijiu | fix your broken grub |
| 08:29.18 | Minege | GRUB_DEFAULT=2 |
| 08:29.24 | Minege | And 2 it's my correct option |
| 08:29.33 | Minege | and GRUB_DEFAULT='STringofthebootmenu' |
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| 08:29.39 | Minege | with, of course, grub-update after |
| 08:29.43 | Minege | hu, update-grub |
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| 08:30.21 | OtakuSenpai | where do kernel modules get added after lm-sensors command is used |
| 08:30.55 | pijiu | Minege, 1) what exactly have u modified before it got broken? 2) have u tried to revert it back? |
| 08:31.58 | digdilem | OtakuSenpai, run sensors-detect, it tells you |
| 08:32.12 | Minege | 1) I've modified the set_default="mymenu" but in the /etc/default/grub |
| 08:32.22 | Minege | 2) I have reinstalled many times |
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| 08:33.38 | OtakuSenpai | Minege from the installer cd you can reinstall grub to the debian system |
| 08:35.03 | Minege | Yes, but it's a remote server :\ |
| 08:35.29 | Minege | So, i can reinstall it, but i've already did it A LOT of times, just because grub didn't worked. And i want to grub working |
| 08:36.32 | pijiu | Minege, grub-mkconfig ? |
| 08:37.48 | Minege | Mmh, after i modify the grub file ? |
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| 08:38.43 | pijiu | yeah just check if it could help |
| 08:39.33 | mra90 | Hmm is Debian a good choice for Desktop installation? Everybody seems to recommend OpenSuse or Ubuntu? |
| 08:39.53 | bazhang | very |
| 08:39.54 | pijiu | 1) yes its good; 2) others are good too |
| 08:40.03 | Minege | mra90, i use ArchLinux, and i think it's pretty good |
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| 08:40.41 | Minege | pijiu : i try to reinstall the vps, and reinstall openVZ, and modify the grub file, and do grub-mkconfig, and grub-update it's that correct ? |
| 08:41.08 | Minege | PS: It's not a vps, it's a dedy |
| 08:41.20 | mra90 | Minege: thanks what is the origin of: ArchLinux? |
| 08:42.04 | mra90 | I am looking for light weigh distro, no games need, I would be cool if I could easy tinker with it's sources |
| 08:42.10 | Minege | mra90: Archlinux is independently developed : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux |
| 08:42.25 | Minege | Archlinux is VERY light weigh |
| 08:42.42 | pijiu | mra90, from personal experience LXDE is what you may consider to have as LIGHT distro |
| 08:43.13 | pijiu | arch will work too |
| 08:43.19 | pijiu | ubuntu no |
| 08:43.22 | Minege | Yep, but LXDE is just for an light desktop |
| 08:43.29 | pijiu | ubuntu is opposing to "light" |
| 08:43.36 | mra90 | what about OpenSuse? |
| 08:43.36 | Minege | But the base, if you want a really light weigh installation, do archlinux + lxde |
| 08:43.42 | mra90 | Seems to be solid |
| 08:44.05 | Minege | pijiu: i try to reinstall the dedi, and reinstall openVZ, and modify the grub file, and do grub-mkconfig, and grub-update it's that correct ? |
| 08:44.25 | pijiu | Minege, u mean ur system wont even boot after reinstalling OS? |
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| 08:45.02 | mra90 | Minege, pijiu: ok, Debian for Desktop? What are bad in this case? |
| 08:45.02 | Minege | No, no, my system boot |
| 08:45.10 | pijiu | mra90, nothing bad at all |
| 08:45.20 | Minege | y |
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| 08:45.51 | Minege | pijiu: When i reinstatll, my system boot fine because there is nothing on it. but it's when i try to modify the grub |
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| 08:46.07 | pijiu | Minege, well the problem is in HOW u modify grib\ |
| 08:46.10 | pijiu | *grub |
| 08:46.10 | Minege | pijiu: But in many tutorials, they say to modify the grub default to boot on openVZ on remote server |
| 08:46.16 | Minege | pijiu: Yep |
| 08:46.25 | pijiu | sorry im not good with openvz nor even know what is it' |
| 08:46.30 | pijiu | probably cant help |
| 08:46.47 | pijiu | try #grub meanwhile |
| 08:47.04 | Mathisen | Minege, you got your answer in #ubuntu already >> " Your VPS already IS an openvz instance. You cannot run a nested openvz instance in it. " |
| 08:47.15 | Minege | Mmh |
| 08:47.20 | Minege | But it's a dedy server |
| 08:47.23 | Minege | Not an VPS |
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| 08:47.36 | bazhang | why x post here Minege |
| 08:47.57 | Minege | ?? |
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| 08:48.06 | ap4lmtree | hi |
| 08:48.13 | Minege | So, Mathisen, can i install openVZ in an dedied server ? |
| 08:48.20 | bazhang | crosspost, you already got the answer |
| 08:49.43 | Minege | No, i didn't |
| 08:49.57 | Minege | Cause i've a dedied, and i don't know if it's the same on VPS and dedied servers |
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| 08:51.03 | Minege | bazhang |
| 08:51.11 | bazhang | what |
| 08:51.30 | Mathisen | Minege, the how can you reinstall with a panel as you said before.. and " Minege> it's a remote vps server " |
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| 08:51.46 | Mathisen | your own words |
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| 08:52.03 | pijiu | <Minege> PS: It's not a vps, it's a dedy |
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| 08:52.34 | Minege | Yep, but i mad a mistake, it's not a vps, it's a dedied server |
| 08:52.40 | Minege | so it's a difference or this is the same ? |
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| 08:52.53 | bazhang | changing around the words wont make it magically work |
| 08:53.05 | Minege | MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT bazhang... |
| 08:53.22 | pingfloyd | how about using proper terms like "dedicated" |
| 08:53.25 | bazhang | lose the caps |
| 08:53.30 | bazhang | he gone |
| 08:53.33 | pijiu | rip |
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| 08:56.23 | oo_miguel | hi everybody. I am facing the following problem on debian jessie: "apt-get upgrade" results in erros while processing nvidia-kernel-dkms. The 'make' log tells me that the compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc-5.2.0) does not match the compiler used now (gcc-4.9.2). How would I fix this? |
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| 08:57.16 | oo_miguel | I do not even see gcc-5.2.0 in apt-get's repositories... |
| 08:57.34 | jelly-home | oo_miguel: what does `uname -r` say on your system? |
| 08:57.46 | oo_miguel | 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 08:57.57 | oo_miguel | this is a debian stock-kernel, right? |
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| 08:58.09 | jelly-home | it sure looks like it yes |
| 08:58.18 | jelly-home | do you have any other kernels installed? |
| 08:58.43 | oo_miguel | ah yes, I played once with compiling my own one, but I do not run it |
| 08:58.58 | oo_miguel | possible that I used a more recent version of gcc then |
| 08:59.13 | oo_miguel | which I just compiled/installed locally in my home dir |
| 08:59.33 | jelly-home | can you remove that kernel temporarily |
| 08:59.36 | oo_miguel | maybe the apt-get script tries to build the nvdia modules for ALL kernels |
| 08:59.40 | jelly-home | (it does) |
| 09:00.00 | oo_miguel | 'remove' means simply moving them away out of the /boot folder right? |
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| 09:00.45 | jelly-home | I'm not sure what dkms checks, is it existence of vmlinuz or directory in /lib/modules/ or what |
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| 09:01.16 | oo_miguel | Ok I will try it out, but thank you very much for getting me on the right path! :) |
| 09:01.32 | starstuff | How do I see all i386 packages that I have installed on my amd64 installation? |
| 09:02.04 | jelly-home | starstuff: stupid way: dpkg -l \*:i386 | grep ^.i |
| 09:02.53 | jelly-home | will also include the automatically installed ones, not just the stuff _you_ asked for explicitely |
| 09:02.58 | starstuff | jelly-home: Why is that stupid? |
| 09:03.36 | starstuff | jelly-home: is there a way to ask for only the ones that I explicitly asked for and not the dependencies? |
| 09:03.45 | jelly-home | there probably is |
| 09:04.20 | pijiu | starstuff, dpkg -l \*:ai386 | grep WHATUASKFOR |
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| 09:04.33 | pijiu | -a |
| 09:04.50 | oo_miguel | jelly-home: fyi, removing my custom kernels from /boot did the job for me. thanks again! |
| 09:05.04 | starstuff | pijiu: what is "WHATUASKFOR" |
| 09:05.11 | pijiu | its what u ask for |
| 09:05.41 | pijiu | like pkg name u need |
| 09:05.47 | pijiu | or part of it |
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| 09:08.55 | jelly-home | starstuff: aptitude has an extensive search syntax, you can probably hunt for manually installed and foreign architecture packages at the same time there |
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| 09:47.33 | bibble | ntpdate vs openntpd ? .. what are you using to update time ? |
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| 09:50.59 | jelly-home | bibble: ntp on 24/7 servers, chrony on machines that are not online all the time |
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| 09:53.44 | bibble | jelly-home: interesting :) ..also reading about systemd option, but timedatectl doesn't seem to fully work for me |
| 09:53.46 | bibble | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-timesyncd |
| 09:54.21 | endstille | bibble: i use it on all my debian jessie servers. what's your issue? |
| 09:55.29 | bibble | think certain timedatectl commands gave 'failed can't find dbus' type errors endstille |
| 09:56.13 | bibble | will double check |
| 09:56.32 | endstille | i run the following commands on my servers (as root) |
| 09:56.32 | endstille | timedatectl --help |
| 09:56.32 | endstille | timedatectl set-ntp 1 |
| 09:56.32 | endstille | timedatectl --adjust-system-clock |
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| 09:57.02 | bibble | thanks endstille , will give them a go |
| 09:57.08 | endstille | np :) |
| 09:57.15 | bibble | :) |
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| 10:03.31 | bibble | unfortunately, 'timedatectl set-ntp 1' gives 'Failed to create bus connection: No such file or directory |
| 10:03.54 | bibble | but 'timedatectl --help' works fine... |
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| 10:10.56 | hexadecimal | Hello o/ |
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| 10:15.04 | bibble | \o hello |
| 10:15.35 | bibble | so, 'timedatectl set-ntp 1' seems to be equal to 'systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd.service' |
| 10:15.55 | bibble | ..just need to find out how to test if working now |
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| 10:17.59 | OtakuSenpai | ,v xserver-xorg-input-tslib armhf |
| 10:18.00 | judd | No package named 'xserver-xorg-input-tslib' was found in armhf. |
| 10:18.10 | OtakuSenpai | ,v xserver-xorg-input-tslib jessie |
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| 10:18.21 | OtakuSenpai | ,v xserver-xorg-input-tslib jessie/armhf |
| 10:18.22 | judd | No package named 'xserver-xorg-input-tslib' was found in amd64. |
| 10:19.24 | OtakuSenpai | ,v libts-bin jessie |
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| 10:26.30 | RoyK | ,v libts |
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| 10:28.41 | RoyK | ,v libts-bin |
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| 11:01.23 | OtakuSenpai | ,v libts-bin |
| 11:01.24 | judd | Package: libts-bin on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0-11 |
| 11:01.28 | OtakuSenpai | ,v libts-bin jessie |
| 11:01.29 | judd | No package named 'libts-bin' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 11:01.53 | OtakuSenpai | hmm...jessie doesnt hav libts-bin? |
| 11:02.18 | OtakuSenpai | ,v tslib jessie |
| 11:02.19 | judd | No package named 'tslib' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 11:02.23 | OtakuSenpai | ,v tslib |
| 11:02.24 | judd | No package named 'tslib' was found in amd64. |
| 11:04.19 | ivegotasthma | is it possible to move the luks header from an encrypted device to a usb stick? |
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| 11:16.57 | hreq | hi |
| 11:17.39 | hreq | how can i restrict a new user to read only certain dirs? |
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| 11:36.04 | OtakuSenpai | hreq which directories |
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| 11:36.47 | OtakuSenpai | you can use file perissions to set the thing you want to do |
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| 11:37.00 | OtakuSenpai | try man chmod,chown n chgrp |
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| 11:38.58 | bibble | OtakuSenpai: not sure what client you're using, but useful to use auto nick complete, such as tab. let's you know if they're still present |
| 11:39.19 | OtakuSenpai | im using hexchat bibble |
| 11:39.39 | bibble | that's supposed to be really good |
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| 11:39.51 | bibble | there's probably an arrow or something to click |
| 11:40.00 | OtakuSenpai | bibble yeah it works |
| 11:40.09 | bibble | great :) |
| 11:40.15 | OtakuSenpai | i didnt kne about this b4 |
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| 12:09.27 | alex______ | hello |
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| 12:10.01 | alex______ | anyone here? |
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| 12:12.43 | alex______ | Guys, i'm trying to figure out how to solve some exotic problem with debian. For absolutelly no reason UFW randomly decide to block everything, even ssh, despite i configured it as 'allowed". ANyone can drop some guides or hints? |
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| 12:17.16 | RoyK | alex______: can you pastebin output of "ufw status" and "iptables -vnL", please? |
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| 12:23.23 | alex______ | sure! |
| 12:24.58 | alex______ | http://pastebin.com/tjZUQSQt |
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| 12:25.53 | alex______ | Digitalocean vps. When problem appears, i cannot connect to vps even through website console |
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| 12:31.04 | RoyK | alex______: sorry - I really have no idea |
| 12:31.08 | RoyK | is tired |
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| 12:31.49 | OtakuSenpai | alex______, try joining ##linux or ##networking,maybe they can help ya |
| 12:31.58 | alex______ | wokay! Thank you! |
| 12:32.08 | alex______ | join ##networking |
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| 12:32.52 | simp | alex______, if it's even through the web console, then it has nothing to do with the firewall. |
| 12:33.03 | simp | as the web console shouldn't have anything to do with networking |
| 12:33.17 | alex______ | U sure its not tcp? |
| 12:33.41 | OtakuSenpai | its a wild guess but maybe it has something to do with your settings |
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| 12:37.19 | simp | alex______, as digitalocean says, the web console is just like connecting a keyboard to the actual computer. so it should not be affected by firewall rules. |
| 12:37.38 | simp | it's there just for cases where you lock yourself out and can't access over the network |
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| 12:38.28 | simp | and as far as i understand, there shouldn't be a way to break the web console, as it's out of scope for your virtual server. |
| 12:39.29 | alex______ | Actually, what i did< i installed ufw, mysql, nodejs, nginx with pretty common setup. Problem appeared with ubuntu, and debian. Have you any idea, maybe nodejs+mysql+nginx can broke something? Cpu+ram counters are allmost 0 all the time |
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| 12:41.11 | simp | i have no experience with nginx, but i don't have any idea why nodejs/mysql would break your connection. Do you see some kind of a default "it works" page from nginx? |
| 12:41.39 | simp | maybe the server itself is in a state where login isn't possible? |
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| 12:42.28 | bezaban | alex______: why are you thinking this is a networking problem? Do you have any indications that it is up? All ports 'closed' and the console not working seems like the machine is freezing |
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| 12:42.47 | dankeast | recently gdm has stopped showing any users probably about 50% of the time. I can see the background image, but no user selector appears. I've switched to lightdm and that works fine. I don't see anything when running journalctl, /var/log/gdm is empty... anyone have any idea where i should look? |
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| 12:44.58 | simp | alex______, what happens if you force-reboot from the dashboard? |
| 12:45.04 | alex______ | I launched nodejs+nginx project before. It works perfectly for 6 month. Right now im work with a new project, bought prod server and instal it. I was able to launch it 6 hours ago without any problem, but after 3 or 5 hours server became not responsible for any attempts to login. I absilutelly have no idea |
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| 12:46.38 | alex______ | Do you have any indications that it is up? <<< yes, it was up, while 'freezed' |
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| 12:47.30 | RoyK | (isn't that "frozen"?) |
| 12:48.23 | bezaban | alex______: how do you know the system is running if nothing is accessible? |
| 12:48.50 | alex______ | Digitalocean shows 'green' dot in front of server |
| 12:49.24 | bezaban | that just likely means the vm is powered on, the system can still have crashed |
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| 12:49.46 | alex______ | How can i diagnoze sys crash in this case? |
| 12:49.53 | bezaban | I'd examine for indications of a kernel panic or anything in dmesg/kernel logs before a freeze |
| 12:50.21 | alex______ | its on logs/kern.log? |
| 12:50.39 | bezaban | yeah /var/log/kern.log |
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| 12:51.15 | bezaban | but it could also be caused by external elements, like disconnection from storage or vm host failure |
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| 12:52.31 | alex______ | i see no 'panic' ther but [UFW BLOCK] before freeze in syslogs |
| 12:52.39 | bezaban | which is drifting slightly OT here. it may be hard to troubleshoot/fix, but I would not assume it's a networking problem without a little more indications that it is. You could possibly schedule a cron job to watch firewall rules and see if they change to exclude that as an alternative |
| 12:52.52 | OtakuSenpai | hey gusy how do i copy a whole folder to another place? |
| 12:52.59 | OtakuSenpai | guys* |
| 12:53.12 | bezaban | alex______: ah, could it be some IDS you have? denyhosts/fail2ban have modes for locking down firewalls |
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| 12:55.56 | alex______ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:55.58 | OtakuSenpai | i hav the folder containing a lot of things in it,like some files and more folders,so pls help guys |
| 12:56.10 | bezaban | but again, that should not affect the console |
| 12:56.55 | bezaban | the console is likely a virtualized serial console which does not use rely on networking of the guest os |
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| 12:57.20 | TomTomTosch | OtakuSenpai: cp -r |
| 12:57.27 | OtakuSenpai | ok |
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| 12:58.31 | RoyK | OtakuSenpai: or rsync -avPHAX src dst |
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| 12:58.57 | OtakuSenpai | thnx guys |
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| 13:01.40 | doublehp | i have written a script /etc/rc6.d/K01foobar , and it seems to me like it is not run during reboot; any one got a clue ? |
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| 13:02.02 | sodso | How to find out what do add to the sources.list to be able to install this package https://packages.debian.org/pl/jessie/libpython2.7 ? |
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| 13:03.05 | alex______ | What else logfiles could have info about sys freeze? |
| 13:03.45 | doublehp | alex______: freeses can't be probbed by logfiles; you need kernel to output on serial console |
| 13:04.13 | alex______ | i suppose, it is not possible with digitalocean vnc? |
| 13:04.31 | TomTomTosch | sodso: that is the main jessie repo. you shouldn't have to change anything if you are running jessie. |
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| 13:07.08 | sodso | TomTomTosch, how to understand the message when the package is "not installable"? |
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| 13:07.57 | TomTomTosch | sodso: copy the command + output and the output of apt-cache policy to paste.debian.net please. |
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| 13:09.53 | doublehp | is it possible to ask systemd to run some /etc/rc6.d/K01foo at reboot, or is it just impossible, and I have to write a systemd daemon ? |
| 13:10.45 | sodso | TomTomTosh: sorry, but only screenshot was possible: https://s22.postimg.org/ke7nr9zcx/output.png |
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| 13:12.12 | TomTomTosch | !pastebinit |
| 13:12.13 | doublehp | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/276780/why-is-a-script-in-etc-rc6-d-not-run-on-reboot |
| 13:12.13 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 13:13.08 | TomTomTosch | sodso: also, what distribution are you running and where did you get the virtualbox-5.1 package from? |
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| 13:14.00 | sodso | TomTomTosch, Jessie, but it is just basic system, so there is also no pastebin, virtualbox is from official webpage, and from official repository, both won't install |
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| 13:14.51 | phre4k | how do I fix "failed to connect to lvmetad, falling back to device scanning" on boot off a LUKS partition? |
| 13:15.01 | TomTomTosch | sodso: then it wasn't built for jessie. debian has virtualbox included in its repos. |
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| 13:17.07 | sodso | TomTomTosch, I don't know about that, because I'm running this basic Debian inside virtualbox that is installed in the same versoin of Debian but the Host system was installed with additional packages |
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| 13:17.37 | sodso | TomTomTosch, the same virtualbox, the one in the host was intsalled from .deb file |
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| 13:19.13 | sodso | TomTomTosch, I don't know how to solve dependencies problem, for example dkms is not available through apt-get |
| 13:20.31 | sodso | TomTomTosch, I think, I've found the problem |
| 13:21.17 | sodso | TomTomTosch, It seems I've overwritten sources.list with one line of deb, so any sources that were there before are gone |
| 13:21.46 | TomTomTosch | !tell sodso about jessie sources.list |
| 13:22.17 | TomTomTosch | sodso: bot told you the right lines ^ |
| 13:22.33 | sodso | TomTomTosch, sorry, but bot was silent |
| 13:22.46 | TomTomTosch | !jessie sources.list |
| 13:22.46 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 13:23.23 | sodso | TomTomTosch, thank you |
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| 13:30.02 | OrbsTheorem | is there a capability (other than CAP_NET_ADMIN or CAP_SYS_ADMIN) that allows a program to add and modify entries of the ARP table? |
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| 13:33.23 | doublehp | OrbsTheorem: #networking |
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| 13:34.57 | alea123 | hi all, anyone can help me with setting up my server for sending emails via php mail() fnc to gmail-accounts? all other provider are okay, only gmail does not receive any mails |
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| 13:36.10 | doublehp | alea123: try #yourdistro, or #exim or #postfix |
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| 13:36.30 | doublehp | alea123: configuring email is most often distro specific |
| 13:36.48 | sodso | TomTomTosch, Everything is working now. Thank you for help. |
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| 13:36.56 | alea123 | i have debian running |
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| 13:38.26 | blueyed | I am getting a cert error when trying to import code from anonscm.debian.org ("Certificate error: hostname 'anonscm.debian.org' doesn't match either of '*.alioth.debian.org', 'alioth.debian.org'") |
| 13:38.43 | blueyed | Does this use a SNI cert or something similar, since curl does not complain? |
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| 13:44.33 | kang00 | Anytime ready for offtopic pm discussion? |
| 13:45.30 | kang00 | Sorry anyone!! |
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| 13:49.49 | TomTomTosch | sodso: no problem :) |
| 13:50.55 | TomTomTosch | kang00: you might want to try #debian-offtopic |
| 13:51.03 | doublehp | I failed to configure my machine via SystemV and SystemD approchaes; what else could exist ? how do I know how my machine is managed ? |
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| 14:11.09 | doublehp | !help |
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| 14:14.12 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 14:14.38 | Agiofws | i have debian version 8.5 and installed with gnome how do i turn off the screen saver ? |
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| 14:15.10 | OtakuSenpai | you mean the screen which turns oiff after 15 mins when youre not there? |
| 14:15.21 | missmbob | Agiofws: system settings...brightness and lock. |
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| 14:15.30 | OtakuSenpai | try Caffiene |
| 14:16.01 | Agiofws | OtakuSenpai, yes |
| 14:16.31 | OtakuSenpai | https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/517/caffeine/ |
| 14:17.08 | Agiofws | http://i.imgur.com/xCCZfcP.png |
| 14:17.17 | doublehp | Agiofws: console or X ? |
| 14:17.35 | Agiofws | http://i.imgur.com/Vyh9BFa.png |
| 14:17.40 | OtakuSenpai | doublehp, X |
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| 14:18.37 | OtakuSenpai | idk i use Caffiene to keep my screen open over an extended period of time,say 5 hrs |
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| 14:19.12 | doublehp | OtakuSenpai: this should work http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/752/how-do-i-prevent-the-screen-from-going-blank |
| 14:19.34 | doublehp | OtakuSenpai: tried the screensaver options ? |
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| 14:19.54 | doublehp | OtakuSenpai: before doing this kind of advanced coding, did you try the obvious options in the conf pannel ? |
| 14:20.27 | OtakuSenpai | well,i just used Caffiene |
| 14:20.36 | OtakuSenpai | dont kno wht the above does |
| 14:21.05 | OtakuSenpai | but i hav Gnome installed,so caffiene was more easier option |
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| 14:25.18 | OtakuSenpai | hey can anyone link me the debian debootstrap page? |
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| 14:25.41 | stoned | !debootstrap |
| 14:25.42 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
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| 14:26.00 | stoned | OtakuSenpai, Good morning from the world of stoned |
| 14:26.18 | OtakuSenpai | stoned...i hav a bottle of whiskey just for ya |
| 14:26.22 | stoned | No thanks. |
| 14:26.28 | OtakuSenpai | passes a jug of whiskey |
| 14:26.32 | OtakuSenpai | lol srry |
| 14:26.43 | stoned | I despise and loath it. Ethanol is not a molecule that I find ... appealing to my neurology. |
| 14:26.59 | stoned | In fact, alcohol is a neurotoxin. |
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| 14:27.16 | stoned | So... you know. No thanks. But thanks, nice gesture. |
| 14:27.28 | stoned | What are you trying to debootstrap? |
| 14:28.21 | stoned | Disable the screensaver and auto suspend |
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| 14:28.27 | stoned | Do you really need this third party application? |
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| 14:28.33 | stoned | You know you can just use xset? |
| 14:28.44 | stoned | man xset |
| 14:28.47 | OtakuSenpai | no |
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| 14:29.16 | OtakuSenpai | i need debootstrap guide to install kernel in my dd-img'd file |
| 14:29.27 | OtakuSenpai | then load tht img from android |
| 14:29.31 | OtakuSenpai | using Limbo |
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| 14:29.56 | stoned | I'm not familiar with such Limbo |
| 14:30.12 | OtakuSenpai | yup,its defunct now but |
| 14:30.19 | OtakuSenpai | gonna give it a try |
| 14:30.22 | stoned | What does it do? |
| 14:30.26 | stoned | All I see on google is some game |
| 14:30.57 | OtakuSenpai | Limbo PC Emulator ....based on qemu(old version) |
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| 14:41.08 | jaggz | are there more convenient terminal tools for monitoring log/messages and syslog than tail -f? |
| 14:41.39 | akoy | Again here... Again. Could someone please explain me why Debian shotdown its eth0 during boot???? The interface is brought down after "[ OK ] Started /etc/rc.local Compatibility." |
| 14:42.06 | jaggz | nothing that does significant processing or filtering.. perhaps just dmesg -f would do |
| 14:42.07 | abrotman | jaggz: tons, have you tried apt-cache search log monitor? |
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| 14:42.27 | jaggz | I mean, -w |
| 14:42.32 | jaggz | (ie. --follow) |
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| 14:42.47 | jaggz | abrotman, no. I should have. thanks |
| 14:43.29 | abrotman | There are tools to watch them like that, or analyzers that can summarize the information for you |
| 14:43.46 | jaggz | thanks :) |
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| 14:44.07 | jaggz | so much color nowadays.. my compiles even put out color :) |
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| 14:46.49 | akoy | Here's the log (Debian take kernel from TFTP and then *try to* load / from NFS) ---> https://dpaste.de/wx7m |
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| 14:53.38 | OtakuSenpai | how do i get firmware-linux-free on my system |
| 14:53.43 | OtakuSenpai | which repos i mean |
| 14:54.06 | TomTomTosch | jessie main? |
| 14:54.31 | OtakuSenpai | no |
| 14:54.37 | TomTomTosch | yes! |
| 14:54.39 | OtakuSenpai | firmware-linux |
| 14:54.42 | OtakuSenpai | idk |
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| 14:54.58 | TomTomTosch | the package firmware-linux-free is in the default jessie repo. |
| 14:55.16 | OtakuSenpai | i hav run apt-get update and apt-get install linux-image-4.6.0-0.bpo.1-armmp |
| 14:55.18 | OtakuSenpai | but |
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| 14:55.24 | OtakuSenpai | this is what i get |
| 14:55.28 | OtakuSenpai | wait a sec |
| 14:56.07 | OtakuSenpai | http://paste.debian.net/791904/ |
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| 14:57.21 | TomTomTosch | that package is from jessie-backports you will have to install it using -t jessie-backports |
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| 14:58.02 | OtakuSenpai | ok |
| 14:58.02 | jim | if I can't find my eth interface in /etc/network/interfaces, what has taken over its configuration? |
| 14:58.13 | OtakuSenpai | hey jim |
| 14:58.19 | jim | heya |
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| 14:59.02 | OtakuSenpai | thnx Tom^3 it worked |
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| 14:59.05 | jak2013 | friends a oftopic question: wich is the difference into Sockets and and Cores? |
| 14:59.07 | OtakuSenpai | hey :D |
| 14:59.19 | OtakuSenpai | what are COres? |
| 15:00.06 | jim | a socket is a data structure representing a net connection, and a core is a cpu |
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| 15:00.25 | OtakuSenpai | Sockets are pipes in linux(i guess so,tell me if im right) which are used by programs and kernel to communbicate btween themselves |
| 15:00.31 | OtakuSenpai | ok |
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| 15:00.43 | jak2013 | wich is more big? the socket or core? |
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| 15:01.21 | jim | a socket is in software and a core is part of the cpu chip |
| 15:01.21 | XeonSquared | ohhhh |
| 15:01.24 | OtakuSenpai | core isnt big...its like the CPU has 4(quad) or 2(double) cores |
| 15:01.32 | XeonSquared | if you're talking in terms of processors |
| 15:01.36 | jak2013 | with1 socket? |
| 15:01.46 | XeonSquared | a socket is somewhere a CPU goes, while a core is a logical processor on a CPU |
| 15:01.47 | OtakuSenpai | maybe 6(hexa) and 8(octa) for smartphone chips |
| 15:01.48 | XeonSquared | if that makes sense |
| 15:01.51 | jak2013 | i need create a virtuals erver ask me how many sockets how many cores |
| 15:02.08 | OtakuSenpai | hmm |
| 15:02.12 | XeonSquared | yeah okay |
| 15:02.19 | XeonSquared | basically it's just what it reports to the guest |
| 15:02.36 | OtakuSenpai | Cores depend upon the no. of your cpu cores you could like to allocate to the server |
| 15:02.48 | OtakuSenpai | i guess so |
| 15:03.05 | XeonSquared | virt-manager I'm guessing? |
| 15:03.50 | jak2013 | XeonSquared can be a good choice: 1 socket 4 cores and 2 b ram? |
| 15:04.07 | XeonSquared | depends what you want to do with it |
| 15:04.24 | XeonSquared | I generally leave it as 1 socket and x many cores though, for simplicity sake |
| 15:04.33 | OtakuSenpai | 2 b means 2 bytes? |
| 15:04.45 | OtakuSenpai | just search google |
| 15:05.02 | jak2013 | anyone here worked with promox? |
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| 15:16.21 | OtakuSenpai | TomTomTosch, how do i make my image bootable? |
| 15:16.56 | OtakuSenpai | i mean i dont want to chroot it(i hav set a cp of it in another directory) and could like to install grub in it |
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| 15:26.31 | Manis | Hi. I have a machine that has an SSD and a hard drive installed. I used the SSD for the system and placed /home onto the HDD. Both drives have a huge LUKS partition with an LVM inside. |
| 15:26.50 | TomTomTosch | ByteStorm: you might want to ask #debian-arm on oftc |
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| 15:26.58 | ByteStorm | ok |
| 15:26.58 | Manis | At bootup I need to enter the LUKS password twice (both partitions use the same pw). Is there a way around that? |
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| 15:27.12 | Lemonade1947 | I have a question, because I think I might be missing something obvious: |
| 15:27.29 | Lemonade1947 | Do services run with root privileges? |
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| 15:28.14 | Lemonade1947 | and if not, how do I give them root? |
| 15:30.19 | Manis | Lemonade1947, with service you mean a systemd service? |
| 15:30.36 | Lemonade1947 | I'm not sure. I'm really a noob. |
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| 15:30.49 | Manis | Lemonade1947, so what is your exact problem? |
| 15:30.56 | Lemonade1947 | Trying to get Stunnel to work. Want to use port 443, which I understand is reserved for root. |
| 15:31.19 | Lemonade1947 | just says "[!] Error binding service [ptpp] to 0.0.0.0:443 |
| 15:31.20 | Lemonade1947 | [!] bind: Permission denied (13) |
| 15:31.20 | Lemonade1947 | " |
| 15:31.56 | Manis | how do you start stunnel? |
| 15:32.03 | Lemonade1947 | it starts when I boot |
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| 15:32.55 | Manis | Lemonade1947, what if you run "systemctl status stunnel"? |
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| 15:33.14 | Manis | do you get anything meaningful? |
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| 15:33.47 | Lemonade1947 | It's active. |
| 15:33.49 | Lemonade1947 | So yeah |
| 15:33.55 | Lemonade1947 | It gives an output |
| 15:34.04 | Manis | alright. |
| 15:34.13 | Lemonade1947 | WAnna see? |
| 15:34.33 | Manis | Lemonade1947, No I trust you :) |
| 15:34.58 | Lemonade1947 | Well it might have something in it that's useful to you but I don't undestand :P |
| 15:35.09 | Lemonade1947 | https://paste.debian.net/791917/ there it is, anyway. |
| 15:35.16 | Manis | Lemonade1947, do you have any other application that uses 443? "netstat -tulpn | grep 443" |
| 15:35.52 | Lemonade1947 | There is one apparently on 0.0.0.0 |
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| 15:36.37 | Lemonade1947 | I'm not sure if that means anything. |
| 15:36.45 | Manis | Lemonade1947, Can you paste the output |
| 15:36.49 | Lemonade1947 | one sec |
| 15:37.24 | Lemonade1947 | https://paste.debian.net/791918/ |
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| 15:38.33 | Manis | Lemonade1947, can you run again and check the PID/Program name column again |
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| 15:38.44 | Lemonade1947 | run which again? |
| 15:38.55 | Manis | Lemonade1947, run as root, sorry, forgot to mention that detail ;-) |
| 15:39.00 | Lemonade1947 | oh :P |
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| 15:40.25 | Lemonade1947 | https://paste.debian.net/791919/ looks the same? Manis |
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| 15:41.42 | Manis | Lemonade1947, OK. so stunnel has bound port 443 |
| 15:41.54 | Lemonade1947 | Oh.. |
| 15:42.09 | Lemonade1947 | lemme try to connect again and see what the new error is. I think this happened earlier. |
| 15:42.31 | Manis | I think that ptpp also tries to bind :443, which is already bound by stunnel |
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| 15:42.49 | Lemonade1947 | Oh, that'd make sense. |
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| 15:43.04 | Lemonade1947 | So what's acctually bound to 443? |
| 15:43.39 | Manis | Lemonade1947, stunnel |
| 15:43.57 | Lemonade1947 | I could try it on a different port, see if that works. But it needs to be 443 ultimately. |
| 15:46.13 | Lemonade1947 | Okay, so I tried doing it on 444 instead, same error. |
| 15:46.19 | doublehp | how do i run a script at shutdown ? |
| 15:46.31 | Manis | Lemonade1947, still an error with port 443 or 444 now? |
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| 15:47.58 | Lemonade1947 | error binding to service, with port 444 this time |
| 15:48.06 | Lemonade1947 | error binding service* |
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| 15:49.21 | Manis | from which application? |
| 15:49.38 | Lemonade1947 | server end |
| 15:50.28 | Manis | Lemonade1947, can you run "ps axo uid,command | grep stunnel"? |
| 15:50.33 | Lemonade1947 | have to go, will be back later. Sorry. |
| 15:50.37 | Lemonade1947 | Real life and shit. |
| 15:50.44 | Manis | Lemonade1947, cya |
| 15:53.14 | hiya | Which SSH hardening guide do you follow? |
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| 15:55.31 | Manis | hiya, https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html |
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| 16:02.23 | akoy | Hi guys, more debugging. It's "connman" that turns off the eth0 in the client. How could I stop "connman" doing this?+ |
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| 16:34.13 | akoy | SOLVED! :D |
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| 17:15.00 | XinZhao | hey all |
| 17:15.13 | XinZhao | is there a way I can raid some usb drives? lol |
| 17:15.22 | XinZhao | I want them to like 50% stripe each other |
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| 17:17.35 | xand | XinZhao: you can the same was as internal harddisks. not sure it's a great idea but you could |
| 17:18.01 | XinZhao | ive never done so under unix before heh |
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| 17:18.08 | XinZhao | any idea where id start? |
| 17:18.17 | XinZhao | a tool would be ideal |
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| 17:19.00 | xand | https://wiki.debian.org/SoftwareRAID |
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| 17:20.19 | XinZhao | cheers |
| 17:20.33 | XinZhao | perfect |
| 17:20.57 | XinZhao | im going to do a quick hack together with every thumb drive I have and see what kinda speeds I can get haha |
| 17:21.08 | XinZhao | though later it will be used differently/legitimately heh |
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| 17:21.32 | XinZhao | if I have a 50/50 striped raid |
| 17:21.42 | XinZhao | with 2 drives |
| 17:21.55 | XinZhao | and I write say, 1mb |
| 17:22.09 | XinZhao | will 0.5mb assuredly go to drive 1 and 0.5mb to drive 2? |
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| 17:43.29 | ivegotasthma | hello, is it possible to make debian install only FLOSS? |
| 17:43.56 | missmbob | ivegotasthma: dont ass contrib/non-free to sources.list. done. |
| 17:44.00 | missmbob | add* heh |
| 17:44.14 | ivegotasthma | cool, thanks |
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| 17:45.10 | ivegotasthma | how does the installer do encryption? Does it use LVM on LUKS+dm-crypt? |
| 17:45.23 | missmbob | yes |
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| 18:15.46 | blawiz | s/docus/focus |
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| 18:55.46 | Lemonade1947 | Manis, still here? |
| 18:57.55 | Lemonade1947 | Okay, so basically I'm trying to set up Stunnel, but it keeps giving me permission denied. |
| 18:58.13 | Lemonade1947 | I'm not sure how to check if the service is running as root. |
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| 19:01.02 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, htop and see which user is running a process |
| 19:01.22 | Lemonade1947 | htop? |
| 19:01.46 | mtn | ps aux | grep nameofprogram |
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| 19:02.12 | pijiu | ps aux | grep nginx |
| 19:02.22 | Lemonade1947 | Hmm, running as both. |
| 19:02.25 | Lemonade1947 | which is weird. |
| 19:02.28 | pijiu | ooops was about to test it on terminal |
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| 19:03.10 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, can u show the output |
| 19:03.20 | Lemonade1947 | yep, one sec |
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| 19:03.58 | Lemonade1947 | https://paste.debian.net/791985/ |
| 19:04.00 | pijiu | mtn swede? |
| 19:04.19 | mtn | pijiu: nope |
| 19:04.34 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, only 1st line is your stunnel |
| 19:04.38 | pijiu | 2nd is ur grep process |
| 19:04.39 | pijiu | :) |
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| 19:04.48 | pijiu | so yes, its running as root |
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| 19:05.56 | pijiu | mtn sorry i just used to know one another mtn and it could have been nice to meet him again |
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| 19:06.13 | mtn | pijiu: no worries |
| 19:06.35 | Lemonade1947 | pijiu, so what is second line? |
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| 19:06.54 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, your grep process; feel free to ignore |
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| 19:07.03 | Lemonade1947 | ah, okay :P |
| 19:07.15 | Lemonade1947 | pijiu, so any ideas why it wouldn't be able to bind to port? |
| 19:08.31 | pijiu | never worked with stunnel myself but just some clues: 1) have u configured it? 2) is there anything useful in it's logs? |
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| 19:10.17 | pijiu | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-ssl-tunnel-using-stunnel-on-ubuntu |
| 19:10.29 | Lemonade1947 | That's the tutorial I'm following. |
| 19:10.49 | hicks_ | Lemonade1947: stunnel iirc only needs root in some specific scenarios, one being using a port below 1000 or something and the other is for the type of proxy when you want to use source or desitnation |
| 19:10.58 | hicks_ | outside of that, I think (not certain) it should run as a regular user. |
| 19:11.05 | Lemonade1947 | thing is they're using it for a http proxy, I'm trying to use it for PTTP, but I don't think that would make a difference. |
| 19:11.11 | Lemonade1947 | hicks_, needs to be port 433 |
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| 19:11.38 | hicks_ | that'd prob require root then |
| 19:11.41 | Lemonade1947 | yup |
| 19:12.42 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, does stunnel shows up in netstat -tulpn? |
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| 19:13.49 | Lemonade1947 | There's something on 433, doesn't give names. |
| 19:14.00 | pijiu | sudo netstat -tulpn |
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| 19:14.52 | Lemonade1947 | wadda ya know. It's there. |
| 19:15.02 | Lemonade1947 | Why the error, then :/ |
| 19:15.20 | pijiu | which kind of error exactly and at which point |
| 19:15.28 | Lemonade1947 | At starting the program |
| 19:15.31 | Lemonade1947 | I'll paste it. |
| 19:16.45 | Lemonade1947 | https://paste.debian.net/791997/ |
| 19:17.24 | Lemonade1947 | pasted the whole thing incase something that I don't know is relevent is relevent. |
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| 19:18.27 | spacebug^ | When I restart my router, NetworkManager does not reconnect to it. Not until I either unplug/replug the cable or manually disconnect/connect in the menu, it reconnects. Out from syslog http://pastebin.com/Hi9uc11Y |
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| 19:18.39 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, try sudo service stunnel restart |
| 19:18.53 | Lemonade1947 | okay, I'll send you the new log after |
| 19:19.36 | pijiu | from what i see u are trying to run already running program and it fails to bind cuz port is in use already although i may be wrong |
| 19:19.59 | Lemonade1947 | https://paste.debian.net/791998/ pretty sure it's the same. |
| 19:20.18 | pijiu | i havent asked u to run stunnel |
| 19:20.22 | pijiu | but restarting it |
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| 19:20.53 | XinZhao | hey this might sound counter intuitive |
| 19:20.58 | Lemonade1947 | I restarted it before :P |
| 19:21.05 | Lemonade1947 | Stunnel just outputs that. |
| 19:21.07 | XinZhao | but can I compile apt-get for a raw linux kernel system |
| 19:22.43 | Hello71 | XinZhao: it's not counter-intuitive, it just doesn't make any sense |
| 19:22.54 | XinZhao | that's... one and the same.. |
| 19:22.55 | XinZhao | lol |
| 19:23.08 | missmbob | no it really made no sense. meaning we have no idea what you want |
| 19:23.15 | XinZhao | why does it make no sense? I want the apt package management system on a pure linux kernel and nothing else |
| 19:23.21 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, would u please try changin port to >1000 and test if it will work? |
| 19:23.22 | Hello71 | what is "pure linux kernel" |
| 19:23.27 | XinZhao | aka not using debian |
| 19:23.32 | XinZhao | ill compile my own kernel |
| 19:23.33 | Lemonade1947 | pijiu, okay |
| 19:23.35 | XinZhao | and my own sh |
| 19:23.38 | missmbob | XinZhao: https://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building |
| 19:23.59 | Hello71 | the whole point of the userspace interface is to be portable between kernels |
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| 19:24.56 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, again; i think running stunel ONCE AGAIN after u just restarted is making no sence nor its correct; as it is already RUNNING and listening probably |
| 19:25.07 | pijiu | have u tried connecting from client machine yet? |
| 19:25.27 | Lemonade1947 | it's just occured to me that running stunnel is starting a new instance. |
| 19:25.36 | Lemonade1947 | I thought it was just bringing up a log. |
| 19:25.52 | pijiu | this is possible why u are getting bind error as that port is in use already |
| 19:25.56 | XinZhao | Hello71; implying id have no problems doing so? |
| 19:26.01 | Lemonade1947 | I think maybe i might just be an idiot :))) |
| 19:26.01 | XinZhao | missmbob; ill take a read, thanks |
| 19:26.16 | missmbob | XinZhao: oh i'm sure you'll have problems. there's a learning curve. |
| 19:26.30 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, its okay to make mistakes :) |
| 19:26.35 | XinZhao | well it wont necisarilly be me doing it |
| 19:26.42 | XinZhao | I just need to know what's possible |
| 19:27.16 | missmbob | it's also pointless for 99% of installs |
| 19:27.22 | XinZhao | why's that? |
| 19:27.53 | missmbob | it doesn't give you any "extras"...you may think it'll make it "lighter" or faster" or "smaller" or whatever your goal is, but that's not really not it works |
| 19:28.12 | missmbob | most things in the kernel are modules which means they don't get loaded until needed. it's not just wasting ram |
| 19:28.17 | Lemonade1947 | pijiu, so if we assume the server side is working, now I'm getting an error in windows, but I understand if no one wants to help with that here :P |
| 19:29.04 | Hello71 | missmbob: actually it will make it smaller, but usually that's not too important |
| 19:29.18 | pijiu | why not; what kind of error and when Lemonade1947 |
| 19:29.21 | missmbob | disk size. not ram use/etc which is what i said |
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| 19:29.30 | pijiu | and what are u using |
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| 19:30.47 | Hello71 | missmbob: eh, certain features can't be compiled as modules. but unless you're on a machine with <16 MB RAM it's not a big deal. |
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| 19:31.12 | missmbob | Hello71: thanks. i know that. i said "most things". having trouble reading closely? |
| 19:32.49 | Lemonade1947 | pijiu, well the error is pretty vauge since it's windows. but it's just "the port used for this conection was closed" |
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| 19:34.02 | pijiu | Lemonade1947, 1) i'd check stunnel log for any incoming activity first; 2) are u running any kind of firewall on server? 3) if yes, did u open the said port for incoming connections? |
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| 19:35.20 | pijiu | 4) are you sure you are trying to connect to correct ip:port? |
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| 19:38.32 | Lemonade1947 | yeah. No firewall on server atm. Although I'll put it back when I'm finished configuring this. |
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| 19:39.57 | Lemonade1947 | looking at the console for the client side, it's making a conection |
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| 19:44.22 | clueless | Debian noob here. Are drivers for hardware installed automatically? I'm using i3wm and my sound isn't working. |
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| 19:48.20 | zykotick9 | clueless: step one - verify with alsamixer something isn't muted (it is by default). step two - i'm not sure, good luck. |
| 19:49.10 | antipsychiatry | Why psychiatry must be abolished . http://www.wayneramsay.com/abolish.htm |
| 19:49.20 | clueless | I installed i3wm instead of a DE. Could it have not installed something I needed for sound to work? I think it worked before when I had Gnome |
| 19:50.21 | zykotick9 | clueless: is alsamixer present? does it work? do you have more then one sound device? /me isn't actually a fan of sound issues - but HIGHLY suggested checking that mute thing! good luck. |
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| 19:51.27 | clueless | alsamixer doesnt come up, shall I install it? |
| 19:51.39 | missmbob | i'd install/run pavucontrol |
| 19:51.44 | clueless | And just playing sound through headphones out of my motherboard |
| 19:51.47 | zykotick9 | alsa-utils |
| 19:52.21 | zykotick9 | runs audio without a DE and without PA... |
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| 19:54.45 | terabits | ah the lol fart of my blue toilet |
| 19:55.02 | terabits | the eats poopy and weiner |
| 19:55.16 | terabits | the first one is the most of my favorite part |
| 19:55.26 | terabits | on the way to go. the first one is the most of my life, I will not only did I mention the fact that I can get a new one of my favorite is not |
| 19:55.29 | terabits | I will be a great time. it was a good day. we will have to be a |
| 19:55.33 | terabits | the only way to get it. it is not an easy way out |
| 19:55.44 | terabits | the only thing that you have a few days. the only way to go to bed. the first one is for a couple days, so that we have been in contact with the same thing as well, I am a beautiful |
| 19:55.55 | terabits | I will be a little while ago. I am a beautiful, and I will have a few minutes ago, but it will take you about it and the kids. we have a few days, so I will have to |
| 19:56.00 | terabits | the other hand, the only thing is, I am going through a lot more than one of the year |
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| 19:56.18 | terabits | Senki the the the the. I am going to the next week, so that we have been a long time, but it will be in touch with |
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| 19:56.24 | terabits | on the phone, I will have the ability for you, and the kids, I will be a good 50th, and the |
| 19:56.30 | terabits | the only thing is to have a great time. I have been in contact. we will need the help and advice for you, I will have the ability for |
| 19:56.33 | terabits | on the way. it will not only did he do it for you |
| 19:56.39 | terabits | on the other day. the 6th of my life, and I have to go back in town for work |
| 19:56.41 | terabits | on the other side, but it |
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| 19:56.53 | terabits | the Jews, and the other side |
| 19:56.55 | terabits | the other side of the day of |
| 19:57.03 | terabits | the other hand, the first to review this week and the kids, I will have the ability for you to know about this |
| 19:57.15 | zykotick9 | !ops | terabits |
| 19:57.15 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: zykotick9 complains about: | terabits |
| 19:57.17 | terabits | on Fri Jan 8th of the year of the poop log |
| 19:57.20 | terabits | the other side of a sudden death of his friends and relatives and |
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| 19:57.23 | terabits | the first to see if I had the chance. |
| 19:57.26 | terabits | I will have to be a good day, I will be in a |
| 19:57.31 | terabits | the other hand, I am a very long, and a lot. it will be able. the only way |
| 19:57.35 | terabits | the other hand, I am a beautiful, the first one. it will not only did he do |
| 19:57.42 | terabits | on the phone, I am going to be a good idea, I have a great time in the 50th, and 6 |
| 19:57.51 | terabits | the other hand, I have been a while back and let me know if I could get it done, and the rest. if the weather. if the other hand. this was a good idea to have to go to |
| 19:57.58 | terabits | the other side of a sudden death of his friends. I am not a big deal with it, and |
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| 19:58.04 | terabits | the other side, but the other day, but I'm |
| 19:58.07 | terabits | the only thing is, of |
| 19:58.21 | terabits | 27ef8ax92jd81hx the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the |
| 19:58.24 | terabits | on Fri |
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| 19:58.29 | LtL | terabits: too much ketamine for you space cadet |
| 19:58.38 | terabits | the lulz . we will need the help and advice |
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| 19:58.41 | terabits | I have been a little while |
| 19:58.48 | terabits | on Wed Jan the the the, the first time. I will have a few days. |
| 19:59.10 | terabits | and ketamine the the old ones of the blogger and the other day |
| 19:59.12 | missmbob | LtL: just use /ignore while the ops are away |
| 19:59.17 | terabits | the other side, but it was great, thanks. I'll let us. the other side. |
| 19:59.25 | terabits | missmbob are the away ops? |
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| 19:59.35 | missmbob | there we go |
| 19:59.42 | missmbob | jelly-home: thanks |
| 19:59.43 | LtL | ++ jelly |
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| 20:00.15 | LtL | missmbob: yes, i should :) |
| 20:01.19 | zykotick9 | LtL: missmbob i'd just like to comment... any comments about that sorta crap, kinda adds to the problem IMO... ymmv?! |
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| 20:02.17 | LtL | zykotick9: youre absolutely right, i admit guilt but in my defense oi rarely submit to the urge |
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| 20:04.19 | jak2000 | RoyK? |
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| 20:05.06 | RoyK | jak2000? |
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| 20:13.01 | jelly-home | donkey! |
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| 20:13.50 | TimBandTech | I'm third party man; stay away from donkeys |
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| 20:14.15 | TimBandTech | debian testing is looking fine these days |
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| 20:15.40 | WadeWatts | Hi there, i wonder if anyone has experience with wlan dongles of rtl8192cu? I got one from tp-link and NM is having problems connecting to any wifi access point. |
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| 20:16.44 | WadeWatts | its advertised as a raspberry pi stick so i though compatibility is implied ... |
| 20:16.55 | WadeWatts | i am running jessi |
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| 20:17.38 | WadeWatts | debian jessi not raspbian jessie that is. |
| 20:17.57 | TimBandTech | Wade that sounds familiar. There is a blob for the rtl chips |
| 20:18.07 | WadeWatts | oh nice :) |
| 20:18.47 | WadeWatts | mind telling me where i can find it? |
| 20:18.50 | TimBandTech | Just hunt the nonfree packages for your chipset using 'apt-cache search' as I recall |
| 20:18.57 | WadeWatts | ahh |
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| 20:19.49 | WadeWatts | also does anyone have a recommendation for wlan usb stick oder wlan pci card? |
| 20:20.09 | TimBandTech | apt-cache search rtl8192 gives packae firmware-realtek |
| 20:20.27 | TimBandTech | Digital all the way! |
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| 20:21.00 | WadeWatts | thanks TimBandTech |
| 20:21.35 | WadeWatts | all the hardaware recommendations i can find a outdated :/ |
| 20:21.43 | TimBandTech | so is Digital! |
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| 20:22.14 | jelly-home | !rtl8192cu |
| 20:22.14 | dpkg | The Realtek RTL8188CUS and RTL8192CU are USB 802.11n wireless LAN chipsets. mac80211 vendor driver (rtl8192cu) is in mainline since Linux 2.6.39. Firmware is required (rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin), ask me about <realtek firmware> to provide. Not to be confused with the <rtl8192su> driver. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 20:22.14 | WadeWatts | what do you mean by "digital"? |
| 20:22.33 | WadeWatts | thanks jelly-home |
| 20:22.46 | TimBandTech | DEC Digital Equipment Corporation |
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| 20:23.07 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell WadeWatts about non-free sources |
| 20:24.10 | WadeWatts | nice |
| 20:24.14 | WadeWatts | neat bot |
| 20:24.24 | WadeWatts | jelly-home: thanks mate |
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| 20:25.36 | TimBandTech | Wade do all research by chipset and ignore the brandnames of the manufacturers |
| 20:26.12 | TimBandTech | I suspect most everything is supported |
| 20:26.12 | WadeWatts | yes |
| 20:26.46 | WadeWatts | rtl8192cu is really annoying |
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| 20:27.44 | WadeWatts | its included in the default kernel but whether is completly random |
| 20:27.55 | WadeWatts | wheather it works |
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| 20:29.57 | TimBandTech | Yes, I'm running one now. I struggled too. didn't realize it is in the kernel now. As soon as I got the chipset package things were good withou any manual interventions |
| 20:30.46 | WadeWatts | my problem is i dont have a eth connection |
| 20:31.16 | WadeWatts | i cant download it if wifi doesnt work :/ |
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| 20:31.56 | WadeWatts | i am on ubuntu now, where it seems to work out of the box, but ubuntu is not the distro i wanted :/ |
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| 20:32.22 | missmbob | you can download it in ubuntu and copy it to a usb stick |
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| 20:33.05 | TimBandTech | Well if you've got a jack on your computer it is time to pull out the old ethernet cable and see if that interface works |
| 20:33.28 | WadeWatts | i would need a 12m cable |
| 20:33.40 | WadeWatts | access point is one story higher |
| 20:34.07 | WadeWatts | i think i go with missmbob suggestion |
| 20:34.53 | TimBandTech | That's computers for you. You're on the net now so try downloading the package to some media maybe. No details for you there though. Persistence is always the answer with these damn machines |
| 20:35.11 | WadeWatts | :) |
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| 20:42.07 | awal1 | I have like 3 gb of audio data (mp3) and I want to copy them all to my mp3 player with 2 gb. I can I achieve that? |
| 20:42.26 | awal1 | compressing somehow or what? |
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| 20:42.50 | awal1 | How I can achieve that? ^ |
| 20:42.55 | pijiu | awal1, u cant store 3gb into 2gb |
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| 20:43.10 | preaction | you can reduce the bitrate of the mp3 |
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| 20:43.17 | pijiu | preaction, wow smart |
| 20:43.40 | awal1 | pijiu, yeah, I know. looks like a stupid question, but I tought there is a magical way |
| 20:43.52 | awal1 | preaction, how? |
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| 20:43.55 | pijiu | awal1, what preaction said will work for sure |
| 20:44.19 | awal1 | no clue about how to do it |
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| 20:44.24 | pijiu | awal1, https://www.bing.com/search?q=mp3+bitrate+converter&pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR |
| 20:45.22 | awal1 | Feels weird seeing bing in my firefox-esr+debian system :P |
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| 20:46.15 | exezin | Anyone here been able to compile simplescreenrecorder in debian? |
| 20:46.24 | exezin | I'm running into issues with it |
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| 20:47.39 | exezin | specifically this http://hastebin.com/bodehiqafa.vbs |
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| 20:48.03 | unborn | exezin there is an utility build in gnome to record your screen.. |
| 20:48.22 | unborn | exezin: easyscreencast |
| 20:48.42 | unborn | works flawlessly |
| 20:48.44 | exezin | I dont use gnome |
| 20:48.51 | unborn | cool |
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| 20:49.16 | exezin | Also simplescreenrecorder supports streaming and what-not |
| 20:49.55 | timBandTech | what do you do with the screenrecorder? NSA? CIA? |
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| 20:50.06 | awal1 | https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Encode/MP3 How it works for whole directory, preserving original names of the files? |
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| 20:50.44 | unborn | exezin: try kazam |
| 20:50.48 | exezin | No thanks |
| 20:50.48 | spacebug^ | Is there anyway to configure NetworkManager to continue trying to get an IP från DCHP? As it is now it seems to timeout after 45 seconds and then never try again. http://pastebin.com/Hi9uc11Y I tried both Debian live-cd and Ubuntu live-cd to see, and in Ubuntu it does work. |
| 20:51.04 | exezin | I'd much rather just get this working |
| 20:51.22 | unborn | exezin: sure.. good luck |
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| 20:51.58 | timBandTech | Is Debian hacked? |
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| 20:52.25 | unborn | timBandTech: no |
| 20:53.32 | timBandTech | Are there downstream packages that have been hacked? |
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| 20:55.56 | missmbob | timBandTech: what are you talking about? do you have a real question in there? have a specific CVE? |
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| 20:57.11 | timBandTech | I'm polling to develop an opinion on whether debian has been infiltrated. |
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| 20:57.44 | missmbob | timBandTech: sigh. |
| 20:57.57 | unborn | lol |
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| 20:59.00 | OerHeks | Aliens come and go, but totally debian-offtopic |
| 20:59.01 | timBandTech | I know, it's kind of obvious isn't it... voluntary software likely has ten governments infiltrating. |
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| 20:59.22 | missmbob | timBandTech: if you dont have a support question please go to #debian-offtopic |
| 20:59.58 | awal1 | exezin, you can use ffmpeg for record your screen, not complicated and it does the job just fine |
| 21:00.05 | exezin | I'm aware |
| 21:00.16 | exezin | I'd rather just have this working, not sure why I'm running into issues with it |
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| 21:00.40 | unborn | exezin: how about to ask package developer ? |
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| 21:00.51 | exezin | There's no package for it? |
| 21:00.58 | mrrhq | Imo, ffmpeg is not so easy to learn how to use properly. Took me a while to figure out the right codecs, settings, etc... |
| 21:01.12 | exezin | I'm trying to compile it |
| 21:01.17 | missmbob | exezin: ffmpeg is in jessie-backports |
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| 21:01.26 | exezin | not ffmpeg |
| 21:01.28 | exezin | simplescreenrecorder |
| 21:01.31 | unborn | exezin: from what? if there is no package? |
| 21:01.39 | exezin | unborn: from github>? |
| 21:01.40 | exezin | from source? |
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| 21:02.09 | unborn | exezin: sure.. git hub - yeah - you can ask devs there.. just open an issue |
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| 21:02.31 | exezin | There's a load of issues and most are unanswered because there's so many |
| 21:02.33 | exezin | I' |
| 21:02.41 | exezin | I'm asking here because I'd rather not wait weeks for a response :p |
| 21:02.44 | unborn | exezin: sure.. is your debian working? |
| 21:03.04 | exezin | what? |
| 21:03.22 | exezin | 'is my debian working' what do you mean by that? |
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| 21:05.36 | pinkfucshia | http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/circus-maximus-libyan-war-truth-8-26-16/ |
| 21:05.39 | unborn | exezin: i mean its not debian related issue.. you asking about some github source where you can clearly ask devs for help.. actually you are asking for some software support - I aint seen that in debian repos(if its there then sorry but still better to ask directly the devs of that package) - if your debian as an os works - there is no issue.. - or is it? |
| 21:06.00 | TomTomTosch | exezin: the github page has instructions specifically for debian. did you follow them? |
| 21:06.12 | exezin | unborn: does my issue have to be related to distro bugs to ask for help in here? |
| 21:06.17 | exezin | TomTomTosch: yep |
| 21:06.35 | exezin | This is an odd one http://hastebin.com/nituqolemo.sm |
| 21:06.42 | somiaj | exezin: yes, the topic of this channel is debian support. There is ##linux for general linux support. |
| 21:06.59 | exezin | somiaj: well the errors seem to relate to deps that I have gotten from the debian repos |
| 21:07.01 | exezin | relavent enough? |
| 21:07.21 | somiaj | exezin: note support for installing software in debian is on topic here, but lots of time the suggestion is if there isn't already a debian package to get the support/docs from creater of software. (: |
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| 21:07.54 | pinkfucshia | "He understood the Zionists, their fiat currency, the petrodollar, he understood Mossad, he understood all of it." |
| 21:07.57 | somiaj | exezin: I'd answer TomTomTosch question about did you follow the rules for debian and if so which step was causing you problems. Also what version of debian are you running? |
| 21:08.03 | unborn | ^^^^ exactly as somiaj said |
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| 21:08.16 | exezin | somiaj: I did answer his question.. |
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| 21:08.26 | exezin | debian 8 |
| 21:08.42 | TomTomTosch | exezin: can't really help you, my advise would be to try a different branch if master is broken and you don't want to ask the devs. |
| 21:09.19 | TomTomTosch | exezin: they have multiple release tags |
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| 21:09.36 | exezin | I'll give older versions a go |
| 21:09.44 | unborn | ask the devs - that is what I said couple of times. |
| 21:09.51 | exezin | yeah I saw the first few times |
| 21:09.55 | exezin | no need to repeat yourself bud |
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| 21:10.27 | exezin | same issues on older versions, something wrong with a dep installed from the debian repos |
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| 21:10.31 | exezin | weird |
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| 21:12.16 | mrrhq | exezin: I can give a quick ffmpeg recording script I use if you're tired of compiling SimpleScreenRecorder. |
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| 21:12.47 | exezin | Sure, why not. No versions appear to compile anyway |
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| 21:13.17 | somiaj | exezin: what video card/drivers are you using? |
| 21:13.37 | mrrhq | exezin: http://hastebin.com/azolegutid.bash |
| 21:13.37 | exezin | gtx 770, propiatery drivers version 367.27 |
| 21:13.49 | mrrhq | I'm still testing 60FPS on YouTube. Not sure how well it works. |
| 21:13.55 | nuldkopp | Hi, I'm trying to install bumblebee-nvidia but I am seeing an error 'bumblebee-nvidia depends bumblebee (= 3.2.1-7) but 3.2.1-13 is going to be installed' |
| 21:14.17 | mrrhq | And it also has an unused variable, so it's pretty hacked-together. |
| 21:14.21 | somiaj | exezin: that might be your issue, the -dev files the instructions i'm seeing it wants to install are for the open source gl libs, they might not be compadable with the nvidia driver. |
| 21:14.27 | unborn | nods mrrhq - nice one! |
| 21:14.40 | somiaj | nuldkopp: what version of debian are you running? |
| 21:14.42 | exezin | mrrhq: nice nice, thanks |
| 21:14.58 | somiaj | ,v bumblebee-nvidia |
| 21:14.59 | judd | Package: bumblebee-nvidia on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 3.2.1-4~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 3.2.1-7; jessie-backports/contrib: 3.2.1-13~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 3.2.1-13; stretch/contrib: 3.2.1-13 |
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| 21:15.09 | mrrhq | exezin: It requires a modern version of ffmpeg with libx264rgb support. |
| 21:15.39 | somiaj | nuldkopp: looks like you have a conflict between packages from jessie and jessie backports. Are you trying to install bumblebee from jessie or jessie-backports? |
| 21:15.47 | nuldkopp | somiaj: latest version.. not sure how to check exact version |
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| 21:16.24 | somiaj | nuldkopp: have you installed some stuff for bumblebee or nvidia from jessie-backports and trying to now install this from jessie? Would adding a -t jessie-backports to your install command pull int he right versions? |
| 21:16.28 | nuldkopp | somiaj: not sure... it should be in jessie right? |
| 21:16.37 | TomTomTosch | nuldkopp: the command you used to install plus the full output and the output of apt-cache plicy to paste.debian.net would help. |
| 21:16.48 | somiaj | nuldkopp: the versions seem to be an conflict between jessie and jessie-backports |
| 21:16.54 | TomTomTosch | nuldkopp: * apt-cache policy that is |
| 21:17.14 | nuldkopp | okay 1 sec |
| 21:17.17 | TomTomTosch | or it might be a mix of stable and testing. |
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| 21:17.30 | somiaj | yea a mix of stable and testign will be lots harder to deal with. |
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| 21:17.52 | nuldkopp | my kernel is from unstable |
| 21:17.59 | nuldkopp | maybe I should add -t unstable? |
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| 21:18.12 | somiaj | nuldkopp: so you are mixing unstable and stable. This will break things and we dont' support mixing. |
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| 21:18.37 | nuldkopp | somiaj: how do I make sure I don't mix them? |
| 21:18.42 | nuldkopp | im fine with using just unstable |
| 21:18.51 | nuldkopp | stable kernel doesnt have all of the stuff i need |
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| 21:18.55 | somiaj | nuldkopp: paste the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
| 21:18.59 | somiaj | (as per TomTomTosch suggestion) |
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| 21:19.14 | somiaj | nuldkopp: note we provide newer kernels in jessie-backports |
| 21:19.16 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 21:19.17 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.7.0-rc7-686 (4.7~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); stretch: 4.6.0-1-686 (4.6.4-1); jessie-backports: 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.6.4-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt25-2+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.81-1) |
| 21:19.32 | somiaj | nuldkopp: jessie-backports has a 4.6.0 kernel which is close to the version in unstable |
| 21:19.44 | nuldkopp | somiaj: oh.. :S |
| 21:20.06 | somiaj | nuldkopp: you shouldn't need to run unstable to get a newer kernel. But you may have put yourself in a state were to run stable + backports you'll have to reinstall. |
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| 21:20.15 | somiaj | nuldkopp: but first, the output of the command I asked for. |
| 21:20.51 | nuldkopp | is there a tool I can use to pastebin a command? cause i dont have graphics or browser on that machine |
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| 21:20.59 | somiaj | !pastebinit |
| 21:21.00 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 21:22.07 | nuldkopp | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/792094/ |
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| 21:22.47 | somiaj | nuldkopp: you are mixing stable + unstable which is not supported and depending on how badly you ahve mixed things hard to fix without a reinstall. |
| 21:23.21 | unborn | nuldkopp: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 21:23.22 | nuldkopp | somiaj: I think the only thing I actually used from unstable was the kernel, can I just remove the unstable from apt config and reinstall a kernel from backports? |
| 21:23.36 | somiaj | nuldkopp: my suggestion is 1) in the future do not do this, learn about jessie-backports (which is also in your sources.list). 2) You have 3 basic choices. a) reinstall stable, b) try to figure otu which packages are installed from unstable and downgrade them manually c) fully upgrade to unstable. |
| 21:23.38 | nuldkopp | this is my first time using debian |
| 21:24.09 | unborn | nuldkopp: congratulations - still dont break the debian ;) |
| 21:24.10 | nuldkopp | somiaj: is there a simple way to do either of those things? |
| 21:24.16 | somiaj | nuldkopp: note you could also have anything the kernel depended on installed from unstable. If you ran apt-get upgrade you could have a large part of your machine unstable, and anything you installed after you modified your sources would be from unstable. |
| 21:24.19 | missmbob | nuldkopp: then start over if it's a new box. safest way to make sure you remain stable |
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| 21:24.38 | nuldkopp | unborn: the kernel upgrade guide just references kernels from unstable, testing, experimental without any warnings or anything |
| 21:24.41 | nuldkopp | i just followed that |
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| 21:25.06 | unborn | nuldkopp: can you give me the link ? |
| 21:25.09 | somiaj | nuldkopp: fully upgrading to unstable and dealing with all of unstables bugs is the only thing that is mostly 'automatic'. A reinstall is the safest bet, and trying to figure out which packages are installed from unstable and downgrading them can very and there is no automatic downgrade option. |
| 21:25.15 | unborn | or source you followed out it from ? |
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| 21:25.34 | nuldkopp | unborn: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel |
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| 21:25.52 | somiaj | nuldkopp: It isn't uncommon that people mix, but it just isn't supported here due to the issues it can create. |
| 21:25.59 | nuldkopp | somiaj: how do I fully upgrade to unstable (thug life) ? |
| 21:26.08 | somiaj | nuldkopp: but in general on a linke libary system (like debian) you want to stick to a single release. |
| 21:26.17 | somiaj | !tell nuldkopp about unstable |
| 21:26.19 | missmbob | nuldkopp: for your first debian install you really shouldnt use unstable |
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| 21:26.33 | somiaj | nuldkopp: at this point remove the jessie and jessie-backport sources and run apt-get dist-upgrade and hope you don't run into any bugs. |
| 21:26.36 | TomTomTosch | to be fair, that wiki page is terrible. |
| 21:26.42 | missmbob | it is |
| 21:26.46 | unborn | ....someone should update that page.. it horrible |
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| 21:27.01 | somiaj | nuldkopp: but I'd listen to missmbob and reinstall stable. It is a much better experience and then use our help to get a newer kernel from jessie-backports. |
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| 21:27.12 | missmbob | i'm feeling lazy but i will later if no one else does |
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| 21:28.25 | nuldkopp | somiaj: its just painful to install again I ran into a few issues during install which took me 2 days to resolve using guides |
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| 21:28.36 | unborn | missmbob: to my knowledge only the ;ones; can update those pages.. if you can do it, do so please. many thanks. |
| 21:28.57 | missmbob | unborn: yes i can update it |
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| 21:29.20 | TomTomTosch | he's the one \o/ |
| 21:29.24 | missmbob | :P |
| 21:29.32 | teraflops | hmm I have a wiki account too |
| 21:29.36 | unborn | yeah! |
| 21:30.04 | nuldkopp | somiaj: what about removing the unstable packages, is there a simple way to do that? |
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| 21:30.27 | somiaj | nuldkopp: we can help you through if you want, choice is yours of course, but we suggest running stable. If running unstable, #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is the prefered place for support for future knowledge. |
| 21:30.41 | missmbob | with your luck it updated libc6 or something. if that's the case no. basically downgrading reliably is near impossible. |
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| 21:30.54 | somiaj | nuldkopp: no automatic way, there are ways to get a list of all packages installed from unstable (or not installed from stable) but I'd have to look up how to do this with aptitdue search. |
| 21:31.17 | somiaj | and yes, downgrades (due to how install scripts work) may not revert things and still leave artifacts. |
| 21:31.56 | nuldkopp | fuck :(, okay I guess i better start from scratch |
| 21:31.57 | mrrhq | proposes #debian-next on Freenode as well. :p |
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| 21:32.09 | unborn | nuldkopp: im sorry you did switch to unstable by wrong wiki page.. simpler and fastest and easiest way your be reinstal really |
| 21:32.11 | TomTomTosch | you can see which packages are installed using aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, ?archive(unstable))' |
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| 21:32.32 | TomTomTosch | you know, just out of interest. |
| 21:32.43 | nuldkopp | unborn: you don't know how many issues i faced during install because of hardware and other issues :( |
| 21:33.03 | somiaj | nuldkopp: we can help you through them. Do you have hardware which requires non-free firmware? |
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| 21:33.24 | awal1 | I'm so using ffmeg for reduce the bitrate of my mp3 audio files (cd to audio dir then ffmpeg -i fileA.mp3 -ab 60 fileB.mp3) and it's very helpful. How to do that for a whole directory keeping the original names of the files? |
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| 21:33.31 | awal1 | ffmpeg ^ |
| 21:33.33 | nuldkopp | somiaj: yeah, I mean i resolved those issues already since im at this point... it just take sa long tmie |
| 21:33.50 | somiaj | !firmware images |
| 21:33.50 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 21:34.18 | unborn | nuldkopp: I can imagine.. we all have been there.. at least you know what to do in this resintall.. I am really sorry for that. anyway wifi is not an issue.. I use intel for graphics so I am native to linux.. however I aint used nvidia/amd from 2009 |
| 21:34.34 | somiaj | nuldkopp: there is a link to a net-install image that contains the non-free firmware. If you can install off the debian kernel, use that firmware image to install a base system, then we can help you install a newer kernel form jessie-backports (the 4.6 one you want) and from there you should be able to start isntalling the software you want. |
| 21:34.39 | nuldkopp | also, a lot of the links in wikis and guides point to places that have outdates and/or incomplete firmware... |
| 21:34.41 | mrrhq | Hmm, there is #debian-next on Freenode but it's invite only... |
| 21:34.51 | unborn | nuldkopp: but surely reinstall would be the fastest and easiest ;) |
| 21:34.54 | nuldkopp | I was lucky to find a git repo that had working firmware for me on accident |
| 21:35.05 | missmbob | mrrhq: because #debian-next is on OFTC |
| 21:35.20 | somiaj | mrrhq: yea it is closed because many people in #debian-next aren't on both networks (and oftc is the offical debian irc network) |
| 21:35.38 | somiaj | mrrhq: it would be nice if it gave the user a comment to go to irc.oftc.net = irc.debian.org |
| 21:36.08 | nuldkopp | git didnt work properly with gnutls, i had to build from source using openssl |
| 21:36.12 | mrrhq | somiaj: Oh that's cool, I didn't know OFTC was run by Debian. |
| 21:36.36 | unborn | nuldkopp: only few people could edit those pages.. its good coz no rubbish is there but also sometimes - those are the one who would not change it for long time which leads to bad apples like your ones.. things happens, no one is perfect.. all I can say I feel you and I am sorry for that. |
| 21:36.40 | missmbob | mrrhq: it's not |
| 21:36.52 | mrrhq | missmbob: It says it's run by SPI though. |
| 21:36.53 | somiaj | nuldkopp: since it is on aonther machine, we here can problably help you through those issues a lot quicker and maybe be able to point to documentation that isn't outdated. |
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| 21:36.59 | mrrhq | Still.. |
| 21:37.28 | unborn | somiaj: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel |
| 21:37.30 | mrrhq | >OFTC is a member project of Software in the Public Interest |
| 21:37.34 | mrrhq | To be specific. |
| 21:37.38 | unborn | outdated / wrong ^^^ |
| 21:37.41 | TomTomTosch | unborn: it's a wiki, everyone can edit it. it's a curse and a blessing. |
| 21:37.45 | nuldkopp | somiaj: I have all of the guides and links that worked for me saved... I'll just try to do it as fast as possible, be back in like an hour hopefully.. |
| 21:38.00 | unborn | TomTomTosch: - let me try.. |
| 21:38.02 | somiaj | mrrhq: I don't know if it is run by debian, I just know debian switched from freenode to oftc to be their irc network about 10 years ago. #debian is the only channel that remains on freenode. All the other debian irc channels are on oftc. |
| 21:38.13 | missmbob | nuldkopp: i wouldn't use them if they had you compiling crap for git |
| 21:38.24 | missmbob | nuldkopp: just come in here once it's installed |
| 21:38.31 | unborn | TomTomTosch: actually yes, I am able to create account |
| 21:38.42 | missmbob | TomTomTosch: you had to say something :P |
| 21:38.54 | unborn | TomTomTosch: is there anyone who actually check updated things on those pages? or.... |
| 21:39.06 | TomTomTosch | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 21:39.53 | unborn | :D |
| 21:40.01 | unborn | great answer |
| 21:40.04 | mrrhq | somiaj: People come here on Freenode because it's pretty popular and has a decent community/policies in place. But still, not a huge pain to start another buffer in Weechat to connect to another IRC Server with those channels I guess. |
| 21:40.34 | TomTomTosch | depends on the page. i guess some are being watched. |
| 21:40.43 | somiaj | mrrhq: I'm unsure why debian moved away from freenode, I just know that is the state of things. hence why #debian is the only channel here and the other channels are locked. |
| 21:41.08 | missmbob | i caught one last week which had progeny as an example. |
| 21:41.15 | missmbob | i hardly remember progeny |
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| 21:41.55 | somiaj | missmbob: I only rember it as it was my first debian install that I broke every debian suggestion about not mixing with. Looking back at those days I'm still surpised anything worked. |
| 21:43.50 | unborn | somiaj: there was an times when freenode was loosing its purpose few years back.. loosing its own manifesto.. not only debian left but many and much more opensourced projects left as well.. it was just grey times for freenode.. since then freenode is back on track and its once again great as it used to be back in '90 |
| 21:44.22 | mtn | loosing or losing? |
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| 21:44.56 | unborn | mtn: l'sing :) |
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| 21:45.58 | TomTomTosch | do you think people will notice if we copypaste from the arch wiki? :> |
| 21:46.06 | missmbob | TomTomTosch: i've done it before |
| 21:46.28 | unborn | TomTomTosch: not really and even if so.. its opensourced - even the content ;) |
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| 21:48.20 | TomTomTosch | oy, don't ruin my joke. |
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| 21:48.41 | missmbob | TomTomTosch: you've had better |
| 21:48.47 | TomTomTosch | :/ |
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| 22:04.29 | nuldkopp | hey I'm back, mostly reinstalled everything |
| 22:04.47 | nuldkopp | I need to upgrade to a 4.6 kernel and install bumblebee-nvidia now |
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| 22:04.56 | exezin | So is there actually any recording software that's not trash? |
| 22:06.51 | nuldkopp | how do I upgrade to kernel 4.6+ without using unstable? |
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| 22:07.10 | nuldkopp | missmbob: hey you there? |
| 22:07.18 | missmbob | exezin: you're using jessie? it has istanbul |
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| 22:07.25 | exezin | I tried that |
| 22:07.27 | exezin | didnt really work well at all |
| 22:07.49 | missmbob | nuldkopp: add jessie-backports to your sources.list. here are instructions. let me know when you're done. https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 22:08.02 | exezin | I'm on bspwm and it just bugs out |
| 22:08.25 | exezin | tried kazam also, that goes crazy due to my multi-monitor setup :/ |
| 22:08.37 | nuldkopp | missmbob: should the url be the same as in the link or can I use the same url as for my current sources? |
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| 22:09.00 | somiaj | nuldkopp: you can use any mirror you want, also check that the installer didn't add it for you already (you last install had jessie-backports) |
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| 22:09.26 | nuldkopp | somiaj: ah ok |
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| 22:10.10 | nuldkopp | missmbob: somiaj: ok added the backports |
| 22:10.20 | missmbob | nuldkopp: you're on amd64 i assume? |
| 22:10.24 | nuldkopp | yes |
| 22:10.42 | missmbob | nuldkopp: okay so you want apt-get install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 -t jessie-backports |
| 22:10.52 | missmbob | nuldkopp: assuming you already ran apt-get update of course |
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| 22:12.05 | nuldkopp | missmbob: okay done, should I reboot? |
| 22:12.18 | missmbob | nuldkopp: yep |
| 22:13.28 | nuldkopp | okay... I think i need to install new firmware for my wireless now |
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| 22:13.35 | nuldkopp | old firmware doesnt work anymore |
| 22:13.55 | nuldkopp | should I just try apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi -t jessie-backports? |
| 22:14.21 | missmbob | i dont know what your card is but yeah you can do that. then reboot again |
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| 22:16.36 | nuldkopp | missmbob: okay, wireless working now |
| 22:17.14 | nuldkopp | now, I'm gona install xorg, then I need some help to install bumblebee-nvidia |
| 22:17.42 | missmbob | someone else can help you with that...i dont do bumblebee |
| 22:17.56 | nuldkopp | missmbob: actually I should mention that firmware-iwlwifi from backports did not work... I had to get the firmware manually from somewhere else |
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| 22:18.54 | Quatroking | Hi |
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| 22:19.27 | Quatroking | I want to install mysql-workbench but I have broken packages apparently |
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| 22:19.35 | Quatroking | keep getting the error "pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." |
| 22:20.46 | Quatroking | I've already tried apt-get install -f, apt-get autoremove, apt-get clean, but neither of those worked |
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| 22:24.53 | somiaj | Quatroking: care to paste the output of apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net |
| 22:25.24 | Quatroking | sure, a minute |
| 22:26.09 | Quatroking | here you go http://paste.debian.net/792134/ |
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| 22:26.43 | Quatroking | I haven't worked on this machine in months so I'm not quite sure what I did before all this |
| 22:27.49 | SabreWolfy | Quatroking: have you updated all packages? |
| 22:28.19 | somiaj | Quatroking: You have a repo that was made for ubuntu, not debian, in your sources.list. This can install packages that are not compadable with debian or cause other issues. At this point you need to track down the broken packages and fix them |
| 22:28.33 | somiaj | also you can install steam from jessie non-free, no need to use a ubuntu ppa |
| 22:29.01 | mrrhq | Yeah.... I was gonna say, that's a pretty bad idea. Lol. |
| 22:29.11 | mrrhq | It's already in non-free. |
| 22:29.44 | Quatroking | wait, so the steam rep is causing this? |
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| 22:30.23 | nuldkopp | somiaj: do you have any experience with bumblebee-nvidia? |
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| 22:30.43 | TomTomTosch | Quatroking: might be. you would have to give more info for us to tell you more. the full command plus output would be a start. |
| 22:31.32 | somiaj | nuldkopp: not really. You can get newer packages from jessie-backports it seems. But I have avoided hardware that requires it |
| 22:31.36 | Quatroking | here's what I get when I try to install workbench: http://paste.debian.net/792135/ |
| 22:31.38 | TomTomTosch | Quatroking: also apt-cache policy <pkg> of every package mentioned. |
| 22:31.52 | mrrhq | Quatroking: I wouldn't know myself, but I'd say avoid third-party repos if you can if it's already packaged. Chromium can also be used in place of Google Chome. |
| 22:32.38 | mrrhq | Apt is good about dependency resolving to an extent though. |
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| 22:32.52 | TomTomTosch | Quatroking: aptitude why-not libgdal1h please too. |
| 22:33.26 | somiaj | sometimes aptitude can figure out problems atp-get cannot as well. |
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| 22:33.30 | Quatroking | TomTomTosch, http://paste.debian.net/792136/ |
| 22:33.56 | mrrhq | somiaj: Usually it's vice-versa! |
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| 22:34.26 | Quatroking | does that last line mean I have a non-i386 version of libgdal1h installed |
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| 22:35.11 | sicxo | hello |
| 22:35.17 | mrrhq | Hello. |
| 22:35.22 | TomTomTosch | Quatroking: don't forget apt-cache policy libgdal1h please. |
| 22:35.31 | sicxo | i have problem after failed lxde installation |
| 22:35.41 | sicxo | now my get grub error |
| 22:35.55 | sicxo | and i cannot boot to linux or windows 7 |
| 22:35.58 | Quatroking | oh, yeah, here you go http://paste.debian.net/792137/ |
| 22:36.12 | sicxo | somebody may help here maybe or some channel? |
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| 22:36.48 | sicxo | boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found |
| 22:36.52 | sicxo | this is the error |
| 22:37.04 | sicxo | :( |
| 22:37.18 | mrrhq | sicxo: This may help, but it is quite a read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting |
| 22:37.56 | mrrhq | sicxo: Otherwise you could launch a Debian Live CD and do grub-install /dev/sdX |
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| 22:38.24 | mrrhq | Then do update-grub2 and try rebooting again. |
| 22:38.31 | TomTomTosch | Quatroking: what happens if you just install libgdal1h by hand? |
| 22:39.14 | Quatroking | unmet dependencies but this time with libdapserver7 |
| 22:39.20 | Quatroking | lemme run the whynot and policy on it |
| 22:39.38 | TomTomTosch | also the full output please. |
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| 22:41.05 | Quatroking | error with why-not and policy http://paste.debian.net/792148/ |
| 22:41.08 | somiaj | Quatroking: you should also remove that ubuntu source and try to fix things with debian packages. |
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| 22:41.36 | Quatroking | the ubuntu source is the steam ppa right |
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| 22:41.37 | somiaj | Quatroking: apt-cache policy libsdtc++6 |
| 22:41.44 | somiaj | Quatroking: correct |
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| 22:42.05 | Quatroking | yeah I've already removed that |
| 22:42.48 | Quatroking | unable to locate package libsdtc++6 |
| 22:43.10 | mrrhq | I remember the painful transition to libsdtc++6 in unstablea year ago. Whew. |
| 22:43.31 | Quatroking | also N: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libsdtc++6' |
| 22:43.33 | TomTomTosch | Quatroking: std not sdt |
| 22:43.42 | Quatroking | oh, bahg |
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| 22:43.54 | somiaj | yea sorry, my dyslixia there |
| 22:43.56 | mrrhq | Hahaha. |
| 22:44.13 | Quatroking | got it: http://paste.debian.net/792149/ |
| 22:44.16 | mrrhq | I also misspelled it. |
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| 22:44.49 | TomTomTosch | yeah, you pulled that from the ubuntu repo :( |
| 22:45.59 | mrrhq | Ew, ew, ew. |
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| 22:46.12 | Quatroking | I feel ashamed |
| 22:46.32 | mrrhq | Np, I make returded mistakes all the time. |
| 22:46.37 | Quatroking | :P |
| 22:47.19 | Quatroking | Should I just go ahead and reinstall the whole thing? it's not like there's a bunch of important stuff on it anyways |
| 22:47.29 | TomTomTosch | maybe you can downgrade it if you are lucky and the planets are aligned just right. else you would have to do a fresh install. |
| 22:47.42 | Quatroking | worst thing is having to setup x11vnc all over |
| 22:48.08 | Quatroking | Alright, time to find a USB key |
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| 22:49.00 | CSmith | Hi all, I'm new to Linux and I'm having some trouble getting Guest Additions to run. I unmounted the CD-1, mounted GA from the dropdown, then tried to run sudo ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run and it tells me that the command isn't found. I tried running the terminal directly from the CD folder and got the same issue. When I did 'pwd' and 'ls -l' the pwd referenced /media/cdrom0 but the -ls threw an |
| 22:49.00 | CSmith | I/O error. |
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| 22:49.39 | Quatroking | Oh, here's a fun one: Can I install while connected with SSH or something? |
| 22:49.45 | mrrhq | Quatroking: If you save your home and /etc directory somewhere and restore file, you should have your x11vnc settings saved somewhere. |
| 22:50.01 | Quatroking | Good one, will do |
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| 22:50.28 | Quatroking | But yeah remote install would be nice so I wouldn't have to move that one meter to the machine itself |
| 22:50.37 | Quatroking | I am a considerably lazy person |
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| 22:51.59 | lollipop | CSmith: you need to copy RUNLinux-file somewhere on your computer and run it |
| 22:52.29 | lollipop | for instance: your home folder |
| 22:52.36 | mrrhq | I bet there's a way, either with apt pinning target Jessie and forcing apt to reinstall packages from Debian repos, you could get your system function again. It's possible. |
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| 22:53.21 | CSmith | I'm running Jessie through a VirtualBox - I probably should have mentioned. When I open the CD itself it's empty. |
| 22:53.23 | mrrhq | I mean, I am living proof that I was able to downgrade from Sid to stable, following a guide somewhere on the Internet. Lol. |
| 22:53.37 | Quatroking | heh |
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| 22:55.16 | lollipop | CSmith: try to attach your guest edition in and copy Linux .run file to your home folder and run it |
| 22:55.26 | lollipop | CSmith: it should work |
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| 22:59.38 | Quatroking | sweet! https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#network-console |
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| 23:09.12 | mrrhq | Oh yeah, debian has had netinstalls for a while. |
| 23:09.49 | CSmith | OK awesome, that seemed to fix it. I guess I'd better figure out why it was saying the CD was empty, then when I force-unmounted it couldn't load the GA CD into the tray... |
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| 23:33.12 | blackflow | So I'm trying out Debian testing, with GNOME. I've set up wifi connection but I can't find in the connection settings where to set up search domains. What gives? |
| 23:34.11 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 23:34.11 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 23:34.14 | missmbob | blackflow: ^ |
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| 23:34.50 | blackflow | thanks. |
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| 23:35.33 | mrrhq | blackflow: I can easily solve your problem, uninstall Gnome's network manager, use Debian's interfaces file, and add a search line in resolv.conf. :^) |
| 23:35.55 | blackflow | mrrhq: so I see, yes, that the option has been removed. PROGRESS! |
| 23:36.01 | blackflow | thanks tho' |
| 23:37.19 | mrrhq | Heheheh. |
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| 23:53.39 | smacz | Hey guys, quick question. To prevent kernel updates, can I just `apt-mark hold linux-image-*`? Is it really that simple? |
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