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| 00:06.16 | digidog | does anyone know about a list of pure terminal based naked boot up linux distros ? |
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| 00:08.50 | zykotick9 | digidog: does debian count? |
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| 00:10.14 | digidog | zykotick9: heh, well, I know how to slim Debian down to console only linux but I am looking for a get-to-go boot-to-root start-up linux to sent back a new laptop. |
| 00:11.04 | zykotick9 | digidog: i'd suggest not "slimming it down" but instead use netinst (uncheck everything) to start from nothing... ymmv. good luck. |
| 00:12.21 | digidog | zykotick9: this notebook came with a slimmed linpus, but this version is nowhere to find. only linpus and linpus lite, but thats not the console linux version of it. after asking around and looking in search engines I am in hope now to find it listed somewhere else. |
| 00:13.50 | zykotick9 | digidog: sorry... i have no idea what linpus or 'linpus lite' is... and no desire to learn either... good luck. (in _whatever_ it is you're doin') |
| 00:15.05 | digidog | zykotick9: no need to sorry, thank you very very much for your thoughts on this weird issue. linpus is a useless Fedora based Linux DIstro mainly spread in asian area which often comes with Acer Laptops. JFYI. |
| 00:15.25 | zykotick9 | digidog: ahhh. TIL. thanks. |
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| 00:17.21 | digidog | tries to use the search of distrowatch.com with no luck yet |
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| 00:20.31 | somnambler | Hey guys, I've got a question about apt, autoremove, and metapackages |
| 00:20.54 | somnambler | is this a place somebody might be able to help me out? |
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| 00:21.26 | digidog | somnambler: dont ask to ask, just ask (IRC rule No.1) |
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| 00:22.24 | somnambler | gotcha. Package A recommends metapackage B, which depends on B1, then changes to B2, B3, etc. |
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| 00:23.12 | somnambler | I want package A. But an autoremove will never remove B1 or B2, since they satisfy the recommendation |
| 00:23.58 | somnambler | I could make it so recommends don't count for the purposes of autoremoves, but I want them to count. I just don't need all of B1, B2, B3, B4, etc. |
| 00:24.06 | somnambler | Is there any way for me to do this? |
| 00:24.52 | digidog | somnambler: there is a --no-recommends (or similar) argument you can use while install and install the others manually afterwards |
| 00:25.16 | somnambler | No, because the package B depends on changes |
| 00:25.25 | somnambler | specifically, the packages are virtualbox, which depends on linux-headers |
| 00:25.30 | somnambler | *suggests |
| 00:25.34 | somnambler | **recommends |
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| 00:25.59 | digidog | hm, ok maybe somebody else can chime in? |
| 00:26.02 | somnambler | but then I end up with headers taking all my inodes unless I go in and manually clear them out. |
| 00:26.12 | digidog | gotcha |
| 00:26.43 | somnambler | the nice thing about it being linux-headers is that there are already noauto restrictions for my current and prior kernels, so I know B5 (5 being the latest) will stick around. |
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| 00:33.17 | somnambler | In this particular instance, APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant set to false would solve the problem if I could do so on a package-level, since virtualbox is the only package with the dep |
| 00:33.54 | somnambler | But a) I can't and b) this wouldn't solve the general case. But suggestions on how to do that would be welcome as well. |
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| 00:40.18 | xcel | someone willing to help with sed? |
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| 00:47.20 | markybob | xcel: you'll probably be better served in ##sed |
| 00:47.33 | xcel | :( |
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| 00:49.42 | markybob | xcel: you should probably just ask your question in there instead of asking to ask like you did |
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| 00:52.23 | wfio | Does any one know if Debian will run on an ASUS UX501VW? https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ASUS-ZenBook-Pro-UX501VW/ |
| 00:52.44 | wfio | It has NVIDIA discrete graphics and an intel integrated bit |
| 00:53.33 | aypea[1] | have you tried searching for "ASUS-ZenBook-Pro-UX501VW debian"? |
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| 00:54.23 | markybob | wfio: probably if you follow the bumblebee wiki for that kinda thing. http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
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| 01:01.15 | wfio | Ubuntu works on it more or less |
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| 01:14.26 | xcel | alright i'd like to remove the blanks from "8x whitespace x. xx:xx" and put the line three lines up |
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| 01:20.57 | xcel | example: http://pastebin.com/m5eedeRW |
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| 01:28.29 | lucas-arg | hey guys |
| 01:28.33 | lucas-arg | got a question |
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| 01:28.46 | lucas-arg | its ok to use debian 8.4 even if packages are old? |
| 01:29.19 | markybob | lucas-arg: most of us do. this is the stable (8.4/jessie) support channel |
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| 01:29.38 | markybob | lucas-arg: they get security updates |
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| 01:30.27 | lucas-arg | ok |
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| 01:30.43 | lucas-arg | im using jessie with xfce |
| 01:31.01 | lucas-arg | its nice and seems stable |
| 01:31.12 | markybob | yeah that's the point :P |
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| 02:06.41 | awwal | How to list with a single command the whole deps, sub deps , recommends and sub recommends X pkg will install? (X pkg depends on 1, 2,3 and recommends 4, 5, 6; 1, depends on a, recomends b and so) |
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| 02:12.07 | oneand0 | awwal: apt-cache show pkg-name |
| 02:12.49 | oneand0 | awwal: if u have a deb i think "dpkg -I pkgname" will do simialr |
| 02:13.03 | awwal | onead0, thats not what I was asking, but thanks :P |
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| 02:21.41 | awwal | I have worked a biit this "apt-cache show foo |awk '{print $1}'| while read ; do apt-cache depends $REPLY ; done | less" , inspired by stuffs in man/docs and googling, but I dont know how to include recommends and exclude libs |
| 02:23.04 | markybob | awwal: exclude libs? it won't work with libs |
| 02:24.41 | awwal | markybob, the output is so veeeery long bcoz of libs it shows |
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| 02:28.26 | markybob | awwal: you need to rephrase. that's the end goal here. |
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| 02:28.57 | markybob | what's* |
| 02:31.23 | markybob | awwal: you just want the names of the packages stripped from the rest of the output? |
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| 02:31.37 | awwal | I mean if "apt-cache show task-desktop ---» Depends on tasksel , xorg, xserver-xorg-video-all, xserver-xorg-input-all, desktop-base , and Recommends task-gnome-desktop | task-xfce-desktop | task-kde-desktop | task-lxde-desktop | task-cinnamon-desktop | task-mate-desktop, xdg-utils, avahi-daemon, libnss-mdns, anacron, eject, iw, alsa-utils" I want make the command show only that, not too exhaustive about libs., markybob |
| 02:31.49 | awwal | yes |
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| 02:33.16 | awwal | bad english here, I dont know if i get understood xD |
| 02:33.29 | markybob | that's pretty impossible for task packages since they use | instead of strong recommends |
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| 02:33.40 | markybob | i can tell you how to do it for normal packages...but that won't help you there |
| 02:33.59 | awwal | markybob, task-desktop was just an example |
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| 02:35.21 | markybob | awwal: this is an example (really rough hack i just put together and i'm not great at this stuff) for apache2. https://paste.debian.net/683491/ |
| 02:35.33 | awwal | for normal pkgs I was wondering almost. if it works for 50% of the pkgs I want to check, that will be great |
| 02:35.37 | awwal | ok let me check |
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| 02:36.52 | ipatrol | I'm trying to make some minor modifications to an Ubuntu PPA package to prepare it for me to request its addition to the repositories |
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| 02:38.47 | awwal | markybob, so the exact command is apt-get install -s apache2 |egrep -v "This|also|don't|needs|upgraded|following|suggested|state|packages|dependency|package" |awk '{print $2}' |xargs | sed -e 's/ /\ /g' ? |
| 02:39.01 | markybob | awwal: yeah. i said it was rough and i sucked but it works |
| 02:39.02 | ipatrol | is it acceptable to use a non-shell language like Python for maintainer scripts? |
| 02:39.35 | ipatrol | if so, is that a Depends, Build-Depends, or Pre-Depends? |
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| 02:43.06 | awwal | markybob, good. interesting command; it's better then the one I worked, thanks |
| 02:44.28 | themill | ipatrol: see policy §7.2 for the relationships; it's pretty uncommon; as a general rule, if you feel the need for that sort of language, your maintainer scripts are probably trying to do too much. The best maintainer scripts are the absent ones. |
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| 02:46.56 | awwal | markybob, I will try to understand your command and work it for apt/aptitude show. |
| 02:47.25 | ipatrol | themill: What I want to do is actually pretty trivial, I just feel much more comfortable working in Python than in Bash |
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| 02:48.22 | ipatrol | wonders when someone will call me nuts |
| 02:49.05 | themill | nut! |
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| 02:49.47 | ipatrol | ok |
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| 02:50.42 | ipatrol | it says it's a Pre-Depends if it's the preinst script, it's not. It's the postinst script, and the postrm script |
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| 02:52.48 | ipatrol | themill: I'm just trying to make a couple of symlinks, but I suck at writing flow control in bash |
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| 02:54.13 | themill | ipatrol: what flow control do you need? |
| 02:55.43 | ryouma | in wheezy, without a dm, you can log in on vt1 and x would show up on vt7. in jessie, i log in on vt1 and x displaces my login session on vt1. is this normal? i kinda prefer vt7 because then i can kill x by kiilling my exec in vt1. |
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| 02:56.34 | ipatrol | themill: because dpkg can call the maintainer scripts with all different things for argv[1], and several of these require different behavior, plus there's the removal of the config files for purge, then there's exception handling... |
| 02:57.54 | themill | ipatrol: sure; you've probably got a few thousand examples in /var/lib/dpkg/info if you want to see the standard approaches |
| 02:59.25 | themill | ipatrol: you quite probably only need to check for "install" and "purge" for the case of a couple of symlinks |
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| 03:01.38 | ipatrol | themill: I find most of those examples hard to read |
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| 03:04.07 | ipatrol | themill: when I do anything that's actually important to get right, I do it in Python. That is what my experience has convinced me of. |
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| 03:04.55 | themill | when you do anything in a maintainer script, you depend on as little functionality as possible so that failures don't cascade |
| 03:05.42 | themill | ipatrol: Is this for Debian or is this your own private package? Is it a package that depends on python in any case? |
| 03:06.00 | ipatrol | themill: the package in question does not touch Python, or any of its dependencies. No, it does not depend on Python as it stands |
| 03:06.17 | ipatrol | themill: I hope to make it for Debian |
| 03:06.37 | themill | yeah, best avoided then. Using something than sh also means you can't use debhelper snippets for much of the automation |
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| 03:07.40 | ipatrol | themill: there's not much to automate here, and frankly I think it would take longer to write the debhelper snippets than the scripts themselves |
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| 03:08.33 | themill | no, the debhelper snippets are important in that they reduce code duplication (rebuild the package, get updated snippets) |
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| 03:13.52 | ipatrol | themill: the downstream maintainer also packaged it oddly, which isn't helping |
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| 03:14.54 | shadows | uhhh... can't play videos anymore using totem or VLC, the whole computer locks up frozen solid (i915 intel graphics) |
| 03:15.03 | shadows | mplayer still works |
| 03:15.09 | themill | ipatrol: this is already packaged in debian or something |
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| 03:15.15 | shadows | how to even go about figuring out what went wrong? |
| 03:15.24 | ipatrol | themill: no, in a private Ubuntu PPA |
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| 03:17.31 | ipatrol | but it creates an error because it doesn't include the proper Provides/Conflicts/Replaces lines, and it doesn't remove the config files |
| 03:18.46 | ipatrol | themill: and he didn't make a source package, just the orig and debian tarballs, and two binary packages |
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| 03:20.28 | themill | the orig and debian.tar.* are all that's really needed; the dsc is nice but not essential for this |
| 03:20.40 | ipatrol | there's that too |
| 03:21.14 | themill | well those 3 files are what is meant by "source package" |
| 03:23.03 | ipatrol | themill: ok |
| 03:24.20 | ipatrol | how is DEBIAN generated from debian? |
| 03:25.31 | themill | the build system deals with all of that for you (debhelper) |
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| 03:27.15 | ipatrol | themill: ok, so unpacking it, the debian tar is a subdirectory of the orig tar? |
| 03:27.22 | Mazhive | what permission should procmail[14059]: Error while writing to "/var/log/procmail.log" have |
| 03:28.18 | themill | ipatrol: approximately; use "dpkg-source -x" as it will also do other things. You might like to /msg dpkg debsrc3.0; /msg dpkg nmg |
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| 03:32.50 | ipatrol | themill: I already have those documents open |
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| 03:36.22 | positi | hello |
| 03:36.27 | positi | good night |
| 03:36.31 | positi | i need help |
| 03:36.36 | positi | with gnokii |
| 03:37.21 | ipatrol | themill: it also kinda looks like the source tarballs were not actually used to build the binary packages |
| 03:37.36 | positi | how can print ALL messages from gnokii to file? |
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| 03:37.46 | ipatrol | several debhelper components that should be in debian based on what's in DEBIAN are missing |
| 03:38.00 | themill | ipatrol: I didn't think that was possible with a PPA |
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| 03:38.38 | positi | hello |
| 03:38.49 | ipatrol | themill: wait, it says debhelper automatically flags files under /etc as conffiles |
| 03:38.58 | themill | yes |
| 03:39.03 | ipatrol | didn't catch that |
| 03:39.17 | positi | how can print ALL messages from gnokii to file? |
| 03:39.23 | ipatrol | that's why it's not in the source package |
| 03:39.35 | themill | ipatrol: makes sense |
| 03:39.44 | ipatrol | positi: `gnokii 2> out.txt` ? |
| 03:39.52 | positi | oohhh yes |
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| 03:40.27 | positi | thank you |
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| 03:48.18 | ipatrol | themill: who would be the maintainer and who would be the uploader in this case? |
| 03:49.40 | themill | ipatrol: unless you have a co-maintainer, the Uploaders field won't exist. Is this a package that could live within one of the existing teams? |
| 03:50.33 | ipatrol | themill: no, the issue is the guy who's actually doing the heavy lifting on the package is the downstream person, but he's not involved in this process |
| 03:51.22 | themill | if they're not involved in maintaining the package that you want to upload to debian, they're not involved |
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| 03:51.49 | themill | If you can get them involved as a comaintainer, then even better |
| 03:52.03 | ipatrol | themill: my queries have so far gone unanswered |
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| 03:52.28 | ipatrol | strange, given that the last update was this February |
| 03:53.06 | njs | On debian testing, apt just removed skype (some issues with libasound2-plugins). sadly, I need it. Anyone worked out yet how to get it back? |
| 03:54.11 | markybob | njs: try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing support |
| 03:54.48 | njs | okay |
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| 03:56.11 | ipatrol | he also didn't put the version in the control file itself, he put it in a separate VERSION file, for some reason |
| 03:56.45 | themill | the version doesn't go into control, only into changelog |
| 03:57.36 | ipatrol | themill: that's not what https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version says |
| 03:59.50 | themill | ipatrol: you mean DEBIAN/control not debian/control? |
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| 04:00.51 | ipatrol | themill: no, debian/control |
| 04:01.13 | themill | version doesn't appear in debian/control and nothing on that page says it does |
| 04:01.30 | ipatrol | 5.2 Source package control files -- debian/control |
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| 04:01.57 | ipatrol | oh, wait |
| 04:01.59 | ipatrol | nm |
| 04:02.22 | ipatrol | I'm too tired for this. I'll work on it tomorrow |
| 04:02.24 | themill | There's about 3 packages in the archive where the version of the binary package is different to the source package and they are the only ones that do so |
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| 04:03.24 | ipatrol | themill: the version he lists in the dsc is different than the one in VERSION |
| 04:04.05 | themill | no idea what this VERSION thing is for |
| 04:04.12 | ipatrol | 3.aea9172-ppa2 vs the actual version which is 4.11 |
| 04:05.11 | ipatrol | themill: your guess is as good as mine |
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| 04:09.22 | themill | ipatrol: the changelog versions there are using "N.$git_commit" where N is just an increasing integer and the git_commit is the git commit short hash |
| 04:09.35 | themill | That's a bit special. |
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| 04:10.28 | ipatrol | themill: https://launchpad.net/~hda-me/+archive/ubuntu/proxychains-ng |
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| 04:10.51 | themill | yes, found that |
| 04:11.39 | ipatrol | themill: where did I mention it's name before? |
| 04:11.47 | themill | the version string was enough ;) |
| 04:11.58 | ipatrol | oh, you googled it? |
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| 04:40.03 | Sheraf | Hi |
| 04:40.14 | Sheraf | I just installed NFS on my server, mounted from windows |
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| 04:40.23 | Sheraf | when i go in /var/www it's empty |
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| 04:40.32 | Sheraf | but it's not empty on my debian |
| 04:40.42 | Sheraf | i think it's some permission issue |
| 04:40.48 | Sheraf | but i can't find how to fix it |
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| 04:40.50 | Sheraf | any idea? |
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| 04:43.03 | somiaj | Sheraf: any reason youw ant to use nfs if mounting from windows? Why not use samba? |
| 04:43.46 | Sheraf | i need performance |
| 04:43.55 | Sheraf | i was using sshfs before, but it's too slow |
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| 04:44.04 | Sheraf | samba would probably faster, but NFS would probably be the best |
| 04:44.06 | somiaj | samba is not sshfs |
| 04:44.14 | Sheraf | never said it was |
| 04:44.25 | somiaj | why do you think nfs would be the best, if windows is the client, why not use a protpcol windows has natively? |
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| 04:45.00 | njs | I've successfully switched to from sshfs to samba when I needed faster transfers |
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| 04:45.10 | njs | ...and that was actually just linux-to-linux, it was just simpler than setting up nfs |
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| 04:45.56 | somiaj | Anyways I'm unsure on how to configure a windows nfs client. |
| 04:46.20 | prussian | it is |
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| 04:46.31 | prussian | I prefer CIFS over nfs |
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| 04:46.46 | prussian | less of a headache worring about unix perms too |
| 04:47.01 | pyface | is there a relatively easy way to change the keymap, per application? im using xfce |
| 04:47.13 | prussian | pyface: key map as in.. |
| 04:47.20 | prussian | like swapping a key with another? |
| 04:47.27 | pyface | yeh, thats it |
| 04:47.28 | prussian | like caps lock = control? |
| 04:47.35 | somiaj | pyface: unsure if you can do per application, but you can probabaly put a button that can quickly switch for you, or use a keybinding |
| 04:47.36 | pyface | like ( instead of 9 |
| 04:47.46 | prussian | ya |
| 04:47.47 | markybob | per application? no |
| 04:47.52 | prussian | you can try Xmodmap |
| 04:47.52 | pyface | or _ instead of - |
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| 04:48.03 | njs | pyface: I'm pretty sure X does not provide any way to do that, except maybe by having some program like your window manager track which window has focus and switch around the global keymap as you go |
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| 04:48.22 | pyface | ah mkay |
| 04:48.25 | prussian | ya |
| 04:48.26 | njs | I don't know of any window managers that have this feature, though, it's just the only way I can see that feature being possible to implement |
| 04:48.27 | prussian | that too |
| 04:48.49 | prussian | otherwise Xmodmap. |
| 04:49.19 | somiaj | not sure if xmodmap would achive what was being asked, that only configures the modifiers |
| 04:49.40 | somiaj | Though sounds like you want sort of 'shift lock' key. |
| 04:50.51 | pyface | ye pretty much. its for programming, really. im using pycharm but it seems to not have the amount of keymap customising that im after |
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| 04:55.37 | geetar | question: I am new to debian. On an old Mac without a DVD drive, I was able to install MintPPC, which I understand is based on ubuntu which I think is based on debian. Can I convert this distribution to a straight debian install? |
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| 04:56.23 | jml2 | geetar, nope |
| 04:56.46 | jml2 | geetar, ubuntu and debian used to share the same repos... that was years ago.. not anymore |
| 04:57.05 | geetar | jml2, thanks |
| 04:57.57 | jml2 | geetar, they share the same bug reports, but their repos/compiles differ... they can differ in many ways -- even though it is the same upstream.. |
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| 04:58.20 | jml2 | geetar, if you see a simple package (outside repo) meant for ubuntu that is also meant for debian, then you often won't have a problem.. |
| 04:59.18 | jml2 | geetar, (they share "some" same bug reports, between launchpad and debian reportbug.. it's mostly for ubuntu though) |
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| 05:01.01 | geetar | jml2, MintPPC did not recognize the wireless card in the emac. I wanted to add that to the installed kernel. |
| 05:01.58 | markybob | geetar: ask #mintppc for support then |
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| 05:03.29 | geetar | markybob: will do, mintppc is a low traffic chat channel and I wanted to try debian. |
| 05:03.43 | geetar | markybob, thanks |
| 05:04.22 | Sheraf | i'm trying samba |
| 05:04.24 | Sheraf | it won't le met write |
| 05:04.45 | trysten | i'm dealing with some error prone harddisks and my /var/log/kern.log is 20G. what mechanism should I use to keep it under control? |
| 05:05.26 | trysten | the log files. the harddisks are being recovered. |
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| 05:06.20 | trysten | more specifically: i want to truncate my logs periodically. I would assume debian has a system for this, is it only logrotate? |
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| 05:14.59 | dgriffi | does anyone here know anything about coreboot? |
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| 05:17.09 | markybob | trysten: logrotate by default rotates weekly and keeps 4 weeks worth. for you to have 20G in kern.log...something's really fucked. read the log and find out what and fix it |
| 05:17.21 | jml2 | dgriffi, it's for people who want to do some cloud things |
| 05:17.42 | jml2 | dgriffi, and then there's the other people who want to muck around with their bios |
| 05:17.48 | dgriffi | jml2: I'm just having a crappy time getting things working |
| 05:17.48 | markybob | trysten: my kern.log is 700K and kern.log.1 is 2.2M |
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| 05:18.03 | jml2 | dgriffi, that's cuse you aint mucky |
| 05:18.35 | trysten | markybob: yes, they are sata chip errors because i'm trying to recover failing harddrives. do you perhaps know of a way to stop issuing such errors tothe log file? |
| 05:18.56 | markybob | no |
| 05:19.01 | jml2 | dgriffi, the term also can be grub-coreboot |
| 05:19.18 | jml2 | dgriffi, it's becoming more and more obscure as a term on its own... |
| 05:19.28 | dgriffi | jml2: huh? I'm just trying to get coreboot+seabios working |
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| 05:22.24 | trysten | thank you very much for the info marky bob |
| 05:23.12 | markybob | trysten: this is linux generic enough to where you might want to try ##linux |
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| 05:27.03 | markybob | trysten: know what..this might do it. sudo systemctl stop rsyslog.service |
| 05:27.21 | trysten | hey that's not too bad of an idea |
| 05:27.25 | trysten | good thinking |
| 05:27.31 | hiya | how to create a cron job for script to execute with a command every 30 mins? |
| 05:27.41 | hiya | the script is in the ~ folder |
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| 05:29.15 | markybob | hiya: do you want to add it to /etc/crontab? do you have root? run it as root? |
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| 05:30.28 | rjsalts | hiya: or if not running as root, crontab -e -u foo |
| 05:30.40 | hiya | markybob, I need it to run a root otherwise it won't work, the problem is its "tc" command script for controlling bandwidth but since it is based on openvpn 's tun0 tc rules vanish when openvpn restarts so, I need it to do clear rules (via script) and apply rules (via script) again |
| 05:31.32 | hiya | it has to happen every 30 mins so that even if KVM restarts owing to any issues it applies the rules again and any disorderly bandwidth management is only there for 30 mins |
| 05:31.41 | hiya | if I set it for 15 mins, would it cause much load on system? |
| 05:31.45 | markybob | hiya: so sudo nano -w /etc/crontab and add "*/30 * * * * root /home/user/bin/foo" without quotes |
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| 05:32.57 | hiya | markybob, but I run the script like ./clear.rules.sh |
| 05:33.13 | markybob | hiya: i don't really care. crontab will want the full path |
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| 05:33.21 | hiya | markybob, but I run the script like ./add.rules.sh <para> <para> <para> <para> |
| 05:33.34 | markybob | hiya: so add the params after |
| 05:33.50 | hiya | markybob, but I need both rules? so I add two lines? |
| 05:34.16 | hiya | markybob, it I set it to do it every 30 mins vs 1 min | what is the difference on processor load? |
| 05:34.18 | markybob | hiya: i'd merge them into a single script. add whatever clear is to the start of add |
| 05:36.30 | hiya | markybob, does cron jobs bring CPU load? |
| 05:36.56 | markybob | hiya: depending on what the job does, sure. |
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| 05:37.41 | markybob | trysten: worked? |
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| 05:46.53 | rjsalts | hiya: wouldn't this be better in ifup.d or the like? |
| 05:48.09 | rjsalts | hiya: if it's reapplying qos rules when the vpn connection is disconnected/reconnected |
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| 05:57.00 | hiya | rjsalts, Ok, I don't know how to do it though |
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| 06:03.06 | rjsalts | hiya: if you put a script in /etc/network/ifup.d it will be called with certain environment variables |
| 06:03.13 | rjsalts | hiya: see man interfaces |
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| 06:04.22 | unborn | hiya: whats the script name in your case? and where the script is located? |
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| 06:05.10 | markybob | rjsalts: not that easy. that'll run for lo as well unless you do some bash magic to check |
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| 06:05.47 | unborn | hiya: there is very small difference to run script on server and on personal machine but both will work.. if you give me name of the script with correct location I give you correct command, you just use for your crontab |
| 06:06.04 | markybob | unborn: i already gave it to him |
| 06:06.48 | unborn | morning markybob ah great :) |
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| 06:15.06 | hiya | unborn, rjsalts I have a script that manages tc command with parameters | so its ./clear.rules and then ./add.rules <para> <para> <para> <para> |
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| 06:18.30 | markybob | hiya: what do you think was wrong with my answer exactly? |
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| 06:19.24 | markybob | hiya: https://paste.debian.net/683506/ |
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| 06:23.14 | hiya | markybob, people are suggesting me ifup.d solution when the interface and off and back on, hence asking more, nothing else |
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| 06:26.42 | hmf | does debian currently support SGI MIPS (Fuel & Tezro) |
| 06:27.01 | hmf | the IP35 machines, fastest MIPS machines SGI released before giving up MIPS... |
| 06:28.09 | hmf | I have an O2, which it supports, but those are really not the fastest |
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| 06:28.46 | markybob | hmf: https://www.debian.org/ports/mips/ |
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| 06:33.43 | hmf | k I'm on a fuel (R16000).. the last/fastest workstation SGI made.. its not supported, so... is that Linux or debian ? |
| 06:33.48 | hmf | probably the kernel |
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| 06:34.36 | hmf | yep, fuels and tezros (IP35 level machines) are not supported by linux |
| 06:34.51 | hmf | everything supports the indys and o2s tho.. |
| 06:35.09 | unborn | hiya: https://paste.debian.net/683507/ |
| 06:35.34 | hmf | I'm going to see about FreeBSD/MIPS.. oh - same deal... |
| 06:36.00 | hmf | i have irix so i guess that's what im using |
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| 06:36.56 | unborn | that is simplest solution for you how to run cronjob.. if you need to run this as root then log into machine as root and crontab my-cronjob and paste it there |
| 06:37.03 | hiya | unborn, why /dev/null ? |
| 06:37.05 | hmf | or, i can patch the kernel with hw support for an IP35 system.. but I have absolutely 0-time for that.. which sucks because I'm a kernel developer for BSD, Linux and Solaris |
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| 06:37.29 | hiya | unborn, Also I got a lot of para for add-rules l |
| 06:37.31 | unborn | hiya: so output does not generate anything |
| 06:37.53 | markybob | he's trying to stop output. but you said it needed to be root so you need to add root like what i said earlier |
| 06:38.00 | unborn | hiya: put them all into one script as I suggested into some-rule.sh |
| 06:38.39 | unborn | markybob: it would be easier if he add this to roots crontab.. |
| 06:38.48 | markybob | that's what i said |
| 06:38.57 | markybob | i said sudo -w /etc/crontab |
| 06:39.02 | markybob | and gave him everything |
| 06:39.11 | unborn | ah did not seen this markybob sorry |
| 06:39.13 | markybob | and no one listens :( now i'm going on a smoke break |
| 06:39.42 | unborn | markybob: yeah last night there was guy with pdo issue exactly same thing :D |
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| 06:39.54 | posi | anyone wanna make open source deb packages for my postgresql extension. happy to pay |
| 06:40.16 | posi | github.com/posix4e/jsoncdc. it's already on pgxn |
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| 06:40.31 | posi | hooray money for open source |
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| 06:41.03 | unborn | hiya: if you would like to see output every time you run that cronjob then remove /dev/null..... |
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| 06:42.55 | unborn | hiya: to get logs that cronjob done its thing you can replace >/dev/null 2>&1 with >/some-folder/logfile-name.txt that will create text file with output (what you normally see when you run command in terminal) simple |
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| 07:35.22 | Joselete17 | hey niggas |
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| 07:35.37 | jml2 | !ops Joselete17 racial profanity |
| 07:35.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jml2 complains about: Joselete17 racial profanity |
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| 07:36.04 | Joselete17 | sorry |
| 07:36.09 | Joselete17 | I am new here |
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| 07:51.31 | Skyrider | Does one have to install/use 'stun' in order to use SIP outside wifi? |
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| 08:10.46 | hiya | unborn, I am yet to deploy and try it and when I do, I would get back to you, ok? |
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| 08:25.07 | Cloudwalker42 | hi |
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| 08:26.47 | Cloudwalker42 | Im not able to write to the httpd channel thats why I want to try it here. Can someone explain me why the following error appear on a webserver with a NFS mount: Please verify that the current setting of session.save_path is correct (2;/home/session) |
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| 08:46.17 | dagerik | ntp is not updating time correctly. how can I debug this |
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| 08:47.18 | klys | check your logs, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata to select a time zone, and find a timeserver so you can run ntpdate |
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| 08:52.52 | klys | client uptime: since 19 July 2015. |
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| 08:56.51 | jelly | dagerik: look at "ntpq -p localhost" for a start |
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| 09:01.19 | Kirito | On my newly configured Debian Jessie boxes, the home and end keys do not seem to function properly. It doesn't seem to be caused by the usual problems, and there are no issues on my other Debian Jessie boxes. TERM is xterm on both, neither have a custom inputrc |
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| 09:06.31 | dagerik | jelly: http://sprunge.us/iVDi |
| 09:06.34 | dagerik | http://sprunge.us/iVDi |
| 09:06.37 | dagerik | asdhttp://sprunge.us/iVDi |
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| 09:32.17 | a-865 | what's it take to get an xserver newer then 1.16.4 in Jessie? Having backports enabled doesn't seem to be good enough for aptitude search to find anything newer. :-( |
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| 09:42.59 | MeanEYE | Anyone has idea why keyboard-setup.service takes close to one second to initialize? |
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| 09:43.46 | Agemaniac | Hello :) |
| 09:45.18 | Agemaniac | I have my iptables.firewall.rules file, and i would like to import some extra configuration from another file. How can i do that? |
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| 09:46.15 | Agemaniac | the other file only contains some port forwarding rules |
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| 09:47.02 | Agemaniac | is it possible? |
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| 09:55.47 | digidog_ | how is the single user mode named in systemd targets ? I have problems to translate from runlevels in inittab to systemd eqivalents |
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| 09:56.29 | digidog_ | is it basic.target? or emergency ? |
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| 09:57.27 | digidog_ | oh now I see the symlinks there are helper symlinks listed for runlevels. great |
| 09:58.16 | digidog_ | I think this is what I was after: -> runlevel1.target -> rescue.target |
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| 10:08.46 | a-865 | chose upgrade to stretch |
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| 10:09.09 | digidog_ | can anyone suggest me a pure console linux like knoppix but for hardware tests on notebooks ? |
| 10:10.02 | petemc | !debian live |
| 10:10.03 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
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| 10:12.30 | heerlik | Hey everyone, I made a symlink so that when /bin/mysql is called it automatically passes the "-p" argument to make things easier, how can i tell the link to pass over additional arguments as well? thanks in advance |
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| 10:13.20 | barubaru | Heerlik make a bash script for it |
| 10:13.22 | Johann | heerlik: you should use an alias for that, alias mysql=/bin/mysql -p |
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| 10:13.37 | barubaru | Links are not suppose to be used like this |
| 10:13.43 | Johann | heerlik: then you can simply do mysql -u root |
| 10:13.59 | Johann | and it will actually call /bin/mysql -p -u root |
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| 10:14.39 | heerlik | ah, alias might be the better choice as i made a script to call instead of using alias |
| 10:14.42 | heerlik | thanks Johann :D |
| 10:14.54 | heerlik | thats exactly what i need |
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| 10:18.53 | Width | hi |
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| 10:22.52 | debian965 | Hello, I created RSA Key on my computer, I pushed public key on my server and added this on "authorized_keys", but now, when i'm connect in my server with "ssh -T me@37.***.***.*** -p 9325", the password is requested ... can you help me ? |
| 10:23.34 | heerlik | debian965: "chmod 600 authorized_keys" on remote? |
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| 10:26.05 | debian965 | Yes, chmod 600 for authorized_keys file |
| 10:26.27 | bezaban | what else did you do on your client before connecting? |
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| 10:30.03 | heerlik | debian965: I believe bezaban's question was aimed at you |
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| 10:31.05 | bezaban | yeah, but work just kinda kicked off |
| 10:31.18 | vegardx | ssh -vvv foo@bar |
| 10:31.29 | vegardx | See that you're actually given the right challenge. |
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| 10:34.21 | debian965 | bezaban, sorry for my bad english. I just created my keys with " ssh-keygen -t rsa " and push public key. After, I added this on remote. |
| 10:34.45 | debian965 | Now, I just want to connect on my server with user@IP ... but, password is requested :) |
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| 10:35.27 | vegardx | debian965: ssh-copy-id foo@bar |
| 10:35.38 | vegardx | Log in with your password, and it will handle the rest. |
| 10:35.57 | vegardx | If that doesn't work, try connecting with ssh -vvv foo@bar and give us the output |
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| 10:36.23 | vegardx | It might be that you haven't loaded your local key into your ssh-agent. |
| 10:36.26 | debian965 | Thanks, I test |
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| 10:38.54 | debian965 | vergardx, ssh-copy-id is same " cat file.pub >> authorized_keys ", no ? |
| 10:40.03 | ewew | Hi. Does anyone here have installed debian with debootstrap ? The problem is that the mount config for devpts is ignoring my setting to 600 permission. Any idea why ? Other systems are respecting the setting without a problem. |
| 10:40.06 | vegardx | More or less, it copies whatever you have in ~/.ssh. Keep in mind that if you've called your keys something else than the default ssh-agent won't pick them up automagically. |
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| 10:42.09 | themill | debian965: ssh-copy-id also ensures the permissions are correct at both ends |
| 10:42.42 | debian965 | Thanks, I delete last key and create new :) |
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| 10:45.45 | vv | Hello, where is the public key called Debian CD signing key, fingerprint DF9B 9C49 EAA9 2984 3258 9D76 DA87 E80D 6294 BE9B ? |
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| 10:57.20 | bollo | debian965, I did ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id and it doesn |
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| 10:58.00 | bollo | debian965, it says failure and prompts me for password unless I set a password when I create the keys |
| 10:58.02 | Rovanion | Does anyone know why my screen would be killed on ssh disconnect? I've never had this happen before on any other Debian machine. |
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| 11:04.22 | Rovanion | This shows the procedure http://paste.debian.net/683531/. |
| 11:05.14 | Iridos | oh, did mplayer1 fall out of debian stable... and with it mencoder? |
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| 11:08.53 | mirazi_heket | when to use discard on ssd? is there something against it on ssd's? |
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| 11:14.09 | Iridos | hm, can I get memcoder from snapshots? Like... the last version out of stretch/testing? |
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| 11:17.42 | insidious | Anyone know why apt-get |
| 11:17.51 | insidious | times out on ipv6 ? |
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| 11:18.09 | insidious | i had to remove my ipv6 addresses to update and upgrade |
| 11:18.17 | insidious | because the ipv6 would time out. |
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| 11:19.09 | Dagger2 | insidious: if apt-get is printing v6 addresses in error messages, it usually means your v4 is broken (because apt-get only prints the last error message) |
| 11:19.45 | insidious | he |
| 11:19.47 | insidious | hm |
| 11:19.54 | Dagger2 | try `wget <your mirror>` and see what it says. wget prints the server's IPs in the same order that apt-get tries them in, and it prints useful error messages too |
| 11:20.00 | insidious | that dont make sense if its broken why would it work for ipv4? |
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| 11:21.53 | themill | Is the mirror you have selected actually available on ipv6? (and is your dns working correctly etc). apt doesn't do anything special |
| 11:22.30 | Dagger | insidious: it might've been a temporary failure that fixed itself while you were figuring out how to remove v6 |
| 11:22.34 | insidious | not too sure i just disabled ipv6 to get the update working |
| 11:22.50 | Dagger | insidious: although you're right, if you already have working v6 then it's probably not the problem I just described |
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| 11:23.53 | insidious | i just removed the ipv6's from the node and it worked... once it finished updating i re added them and apt-get worked fine with the ipv6 |
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| 11:24.04 | insidious | was just curious if the dns was down on the other side. |
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| 11:29.01 | winsen | hi all |
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| 11:31.58 | winsen | can you please tell me good tool for recovery data on any kind of partitions? thanks |
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| 11:32.46 | Iridos | magicrescue |
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| 11:33.48 | winsen | Iridos: hi thanks for answering, is "magicrescue" bootable and working on any kind of partition? |
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| 11:35.58 | Iridos | no... it's just looking for the magic byte on all files (or something you write a recipe to find) and recovers the files that match... that's why I think it should work on most filesystem types |
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| 11:37.11 | Iridos | usually it's preferable to use something that uses FS specific things |
| 11:37.17 | Iridos | oh... and: backups |
| 11:37.34 | Iridos | totally independent on the type of partition, backups are |
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| 11:41.44 | kangelane | I have a question. Iperf is running on two virtual machines,which are on nodes. The one where server is hosted, experiences 0 latency drop, the one where iperf client is, experiences 100x latency drop |
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| 11:41.51 | kangelane | what is the cause of this ? I have no idea |
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| 11:42.46 | vegardx | latency drop? |
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| 11:43.01 | vegardx | Packet loss? |
| 11:43.34 | kangelane | i mean no internet traffic - network latency 0.37 ms (tested on host machines) |
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| 11:44.20 | kangelane | Iperf server and host running on VMs. now host with iperf server has network latency 0.214 ms (tested on host machines) |
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| 11:44.54 | kangelane | Now wierd part, The host with iperf client running on VM has network latency 8.375 ms |
| 11:45.08 | kangelane | that is 50 times more latency on client with iperf client |
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| 11:46.42 | vegardx | I still don't understand what you're trying to say |
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| 11:47.56 | kangelane | I have a host A with virtual machine lets call it virtA and Host B with virtual machine lets call it virtB, now I also have my machine, lets call it Controller |
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| 11:48.26 | kangelane | IF iperf server is running on virtA and iperf client is running on virtB - Basically creates a lot of network bandwidth |
| 11:48.55 | kangelane | I experience Huge latency increase with Host B, which has the iperf client running on virtB |
| 11:49.30 | kangelane | But no lateny increase between Host C and Host A (Where iperf server is running on virtA) |
| 11:50.51 | Donitzo | oh blah, dilemma |
| 11:50.59 | zuzzas | kangelane: are you sure that there are no deep buffers and/or shaping policies on the network equipment between all those hosts? |
| 11:51.06 | Donitzo | I don't have a wired network connection, and debian doesn't work with my wifi usb dongle by default |
| 11:52.01 | kangelane | I am not sure, but I did not set anything like that up ( it does have OpenStack neutron running on it though ) |
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| 11:52.35 | kangelane | My quess was that the iperf is one directional and that server only aknowledges packets send and this is not a heavy task ? |
| 11:52.46 | vegardx | Same node they are running on? |
| 11:52.53 | Donitzo | if I want to use my raspberry pi as nothing but a wifi-to-ethernet adapter, what OS accomplishes this the easiest? |
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| 11:53.06 | kangelane | Nono, virtual machines are on separate physical nodes |
| 11:53.10 | vegardx | Donitzo: Any software, but openwrt is nice. |
| 11:53.21 | Donitzo | openwrt eh. I'll try it |
| 11:54.03 | vegardx | Personally I'd just use Debian. All you're doing is a bridge... |
| 11:54.20 | winsen | Iridos: sorry, I am back. is that working for ntfs partition as well? |
| 11:55.11 | Donitzo | I guess. I still need to get the drivers for this wifi dongle to work |
| 11:55.18 | Donitzo | and raspian is easy to install |
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| 11:59.25 | hiya | Guys, I need a general advise, how many hours of Computer time is sane in a day? |
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| 12:00.06 | Donitzo | why did they decide to drop raid support in the default ubuntu installers |
| 12:00.11 | Donitzo | I don't see any reason why that's beneficial |
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| 12:04.18 | Iridos | winsen, look at the manpage |
| 12:04.33 | dagerik | what does jessie have both rsyslog and journalctl |
| 12:04.38 | dagerik | is it safe to remove rsyslog |
| 12:04.54 | zamba | ok, what has happened with debian? |
| 12:05.20 | donnoc | Hello my friends. I am writing a bash script and I try to make a comand (duplicity) but if there is an Error I want so send me a Mail. The problem is that I don't know how to let the script look if something went to stderr from duplicity |
| 12:05.25 | zamba | i tried to upgrade from wheezy to jessie.. all went good with the upgrade.. rebooted.. the box answered to icmp ping, but i was not able to ssh into it.. had to bring up the console and i could see that the system was in emergency mode.. |
| 12:05.41 | zamba | i investigated the logs and see that a nfs mount was unsuccessful.. |
| 12:05.51 | zamba | and this halted the whole boot-up? |
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| 12:05.57 | winsen | Iridos: ok, is that the only you can recommand? |
| 12:05.59 | zamba | in what direction are we going? |
| 12:06.18 | zamba | how come a faulty nfs mount entry in /etc/fstab can halt a successful boot of a system? |
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| 12:06.43 | zamba | what happened with keep it simple, stupid? |
| 12:07.02 | zamba | first and foremost the system should boot.. no matter what you throw at it |
| 12:07.50 | zamba | boot and get the sshd running |
| 12:08.00 | zamba | boot - networking - ssh |
| 12:08.09 | zamba | EVERYTHING else can fail for what i care |
| 12:08.37 | Iridos | winsen, if it's for ntfs, you could search for packages e.g. with "apt-cache search ntfs rescue"? |
| 12:09.32 | winsen | Iridos: not only but it's part of. thanks |
| 12:10.09 | frenchie | Somebody knows about a tool to record deezer/spotify audio ? something like ' streaming audio recorder' .. that can record And name each mp3 separately.. |
| 12:11.03 | winsen | Iridos: do you if that works with live version? |
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| 12:11.14 | winsen | Iridos: do you know if that works with live version? |
| 12:12.10 | Iridos | if you have configured the repos like in a normal debian, yes |
| 12:12.26 | winsen | Iridos: I mean by launching ubuntu live for example, can I run magicrescue on it? |
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| 12:13.38 | Iridos | you're in #debian. I never used ubuntu in my life. How the fuck should I know? |
| 12:16.15 | Agemaniac | lmao |
| 12:16.38 | devster31 | I'm trying to create a vdi file from an img file, if I mount and chroot into the img file it tells me the total size is 3.7G, but the VDI file is actually 9G |
| 12:16.42 | devster31 | why is that? |
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| 12:17.45 | winsen | Iridos: don't torture yourself. slowdown boy. It's just a question |
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| 12:18.50 | SanchoPensa | hey guys! |
| 12:18.51 | SanchoPensa | do you happen to know of any linux capable music recognition service or sophtware like tunatic? |
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| 12:19.12 | frenchie | I don't know the original question winsen, but testdisk saved me several times : http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk |
| 12:20.02 | Iridos | winsen, I've used debian for 15 years now. There's a reason I sometimes take the time to answer question in #debian and not in #ubuntu or #arch or wherever |
| 12:20.41 | sealsniper | htop |
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| 12:25.09 | DataGhostS | I just cloned a wheezy VM into a new VM and dist-upgraded it to jessie, which went horribly wrong but I think I got it right after a couple of well-placed apt-gets... thing is that now I can ping that machine, I can SSH to that machine, but I have no outbound connectivity whatsoever, I can't even ping the IP that I used to ping the machine with, I can't ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 12:25.09 | dagerik | why does jessie come with rsyslog |
| 12:25.37 | dagerik | DataGhostS: change IP address |
| 12:25.40 | DataGhostS | I did iptables -F, ethtool says the link is up (and I'm ssh'ing into the machine so it should be) so what the hell is going on? even strace just shows timeouts on the outbound sockets |
| 12:25.54 | DataGhostS | dagerik what would that accomplish? |
| 12:25.56 | winsen | frenchie: I tested 'testdisk' but it doesn't work. Anyway thanks for answering |
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| 12:27.47 | winsen | Iridos: 15 years..., congratulation boy. |
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| 12:29.36 | frenchie | you welcome winsen |
| 12:30.13 | nadersith | hi, is this an official debian channel? I thought it was on OFTC now |
| 12:30.17 | jelly | winsen: that "boy" thing is unnecessarily patronizing. Drop it please. |
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| 12:30.55 | donnoc | I like the Debian Filesystem Hirarchy and I want to use is more as standart. What is the correkt folder if I write some of my scripts for the system? /urs/local/src? |
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| 12:31.12 | DataGhostS | dagerik, I changed it anyway, still no outbound connectivity, only inbound |
| 12:31.14 | winsen | jelly: take care of you. |
| 12:32.06 | debian133 | Hello, I come again a second time but I don't understand ... I created ssh key on my computer with root's user. I copied in my server (with ssh-copy-id) and " authorized_keys " automatically created. But now, when i'm connect in my server with "ssh myuser@myip -p 9325", the password is requested ... can you help me ? Thank's very much :) |
| 12:32.19 | dagerik | DataGhostS: maybe switch has blacklisted MAC address. try change it |
| 12:32.30 | jelly | nadersith: the official status of this channel is that it is officially unofficial. Still managed by debian people even if all the development irc channels moved to oftc. |
| 12:32.40 | nadersith | thank you jelly |
| 12:33.01 | DataGhostS | dagerik, I had connectivity before dist-upgrading, last time I checked that would not change my MAC |
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| 12:33.20 | dagerik | DataGhostS: show your iptables -L -n -v |
| 12:33.27 | DataGhostS | I did iptables -F so it's empty |
| 12:33.32 | DataGhostS | policy ACCEPT on all |
| 12:33.32 | dagerik | ok |
| 12:34.18 | dagerik | how about dig @8.8.8.8 example.com |
| 12:34.21 | DataGhostS | I am seeing the counters increase due to my SSH traffic |
| 12:34.33 | DataGhostS | doesn't work because |
| 12:34.33 | DataGhostS | --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- |
| 12:34.34 | DataGhostS | 186 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 185258ms |
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| 12:34.49 | dagerik | DataGhostS: show ip r |
| 12:35.26 | DataGhostS | default via 213.193.236.1 dev eth0 |
| 12:35.26 | DataGhostS | 213.193.236.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 213.193.236.249 |
| 12:35.38 | dagerik | ping 213.193.236.1 ? |
| 12:35.42 | DataGhostS | nothing |
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| 12:36.39 | frenchie | debian133: have a look at your server's sshd log, it will likely explain why the password is requested ( configure it to DEBUG in /etc/ssh/sshd_config , restart it it should log under /var/log/auth ) |
| 12:36.42 | dagerik | DataGhostS: do tcpdump see if packets are going out |
| 12:36.59 | aypea[1] | dataghosts: is eth0 actually up? |
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| 12:37.17 | DataGhostS | aypea[1], I'm ssh'ing into that machine over that eth0 |
| 12:37.26 | DataGhostS | you should actually be able to ping it and get a response |
| 12:37.32 | aypea[1] | dataghosts: hah. nifty. |
| 12:37.41 | aypea[1] | dataghosts: in the same network? |
| 12:37.43 | DataGhostS | tcpdump only shows some arps though m ySSH session is online |
| 12:37.44 | aypea[1] | on |
| 12:37.52 | DataGhostS | no from a completely different network and ISP |
| 12:38.00 | DataGhostS | but I can't ping back |
| 12:38.19 | debian133 | frenchie thanks, I see (and I'm french too, bit my english is very bad) |
| 12:38.58 | frenchie | ok pm me if you want, we'll speak french without polluting the main chan |
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| 12:39.27 | dagerik | do tcpdump while you use dig. see if a UDP packet is actually going out |
| 12:39.30 | DataGhostS | if I ifdown eth0, my top stops and it resumes when I ifup eth0 |
| 12:40.25 | DataGhostS | tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode |
| 12:40.25 | DataGhostS | listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes |
| 12:40.25 | DataGhostS | ^C^\Quit |
| 12:40.26 | DataGhostS | 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3023ms |
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| 12:41.29 | DataGhostS | that's all I see |
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| 12:42.20 | dagerik | DataGhostS: tcpdump port 53 then dig @8.8.8.8 example.com |
| 12:42.32 | dagerik | you should see 14:42:03.862625 IP 62.92.70.146.38999 > google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain: 44359+ [1au] A? example.com. (40) |
| 12:42.35 | dagerik | 14:42:03.879139 IP google-public-dns-a.google.com.domain > 62.92.70.146.38999: 44359$ 1/0/1 A 93.184.216.34 (56) |
| 12:42.48 | DataGhostS | still nothing |
| 12:42.59 | aypea[1] | not even an outgoing packet? |
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| 12:43.05 | DataGhostS | wait a few appeared *after* the timeout |
| 12:43.17 | DataGhostS | but they're requests for *.debian.pool.ntp.org |
| 12:43.28 | DataGhostS | from a different inte.. what?! |
| 12:43.36 | DataGhostS | from an IP that's not even assigned to the machine |
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| 12:43.58 | hypermist | well i managed to re-install vps without any problems |
| 12:43.59 | aypea[1] | use tcpdump -n -i eth0 and try again |
| 12:44.08 | dagerik | DataGhostS: give output of iptables -L -n -v |
| 12:44.39 | DataGhostS | still empty |
| 12:44.55 | DataGhostS | grepping for that IP (it's the old IP of the VM I cloned) I did find some ipsec thing |
| 12:45.17 | aypea[1] | DataGhostS: check other tables with -t |
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| 12:46.25 | DataGhostS | yes great. what's the use case for not flushing all tables with -F and no arguments |
| 12:46.28 | debian133 | frenchie, I do not know how to activate this logfile in sshd_config, can you help me ? |
| 12:46.34 | DataGhostS | thanks aypea[1] there was some crap in POSTROUTING |
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| 12:46.47 | aypea[1] | DataGhostS: it flushes all chains in selected table :) |
| 12:46.56 | aypea[1] | by default the table is the filter table |
| 12:47.00 | DataGhostS | yes true I know that |
| 12:47.16 | DataGhostS | but I'd have it flush everything if you didn't specify, heh |
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| 12:47.55 | frenchie | debian133: you should have a line like this : SyslogFacility AUTH |
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| 12:48.12 | DataGhostS | someone set up VPN and NAT stuff on that box without telling me |
| 12:48.31 | aypea[1] | DataGhostS: it's the little things that make life fun :) |
| 12:48.39 | frenchie | followed by a line like that : LogLevel DEBUG ( not sure if DEBUG is valid but I think so ) |
| 12:48.42 | DataGhostS | weeeee I'm overjoyed haha |
| 12:49.01 | frenchie | then just restart sshd debian133 |
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| 12:49.13 | debian133 | frenchie, oh ok thanks, I have auth.log, I see him |
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| 12:50.40 | aypea[1] | DataGhostS: :) |
| 12:50.50 | nadeem | my debian system doen't resume after hibernate. please help |
| 12:51.09 | frenchie | you can do a man sshd_config to learn more debian133 , DEBUG should be fine according to it |
| 12:51.13 | aypea[1] | tempt it out with salmon |
| 12:51.21 | frenchie | :) |
| 12:51.38 | nadeem | please help |
| 12:51.39 | frenchie | sorry no idea nadeem |
| 12:51.51 | aypea[1] | same. |
| 12:52.15 | aypea[1] | (except for the salmon bit - there's a small chance) |
| 12:52.32 | frenchie | :p |
| 12:52.55 | nadeem | it powers off fine, but after i poweron i dont have my work there , it resumes like restart, all jobs gonne |
| 12:52.59 | debian133 | thanks frenchie, I change "INFO" for "DEBUG" |
| 12:53.24 | frenchie | cool debian133 you should get your answer then |
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| 12:53.31 | aypea[1] | nadeem: check dmesg for clues |
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| 12:56.27 | frenchie | looks like you can pinpoint the problem following this procedure nadeem : https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation |
| 12:57.00 | debian133 | frenchie thank's, this is my log, I search into but i'm newbie in debian, if you have ideas ... : https://gist.github.com/GaylordP/f523cffe8ea3115783763a485cf220a4 |
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| 12:59.48 | frenchie | not enough information to solve it debian133 ; try changing DEBUG to DEBUG3 to have more information |
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| 13:00.07 | debian133 | frenchie, Oh ok, thanks :) |
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| 13:03.49 | debian133 | frenchie, this is my new logfile : https://gist.github.com/GaylordP/395af3a33d858ae9db8e76b3bfb0d480 |
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| 13:09.31 | frenchie | You're trying to log in as 'myuser' not root I guess debian133 , so you should generate your key as myuser not root at first no ? |
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| 13:11.55 | debian133 | frenchie, on my local computer I have generate key with "root". But in my server, I connect with " myuser " (and public key is .ssh myuser repertory). But in my server, " myuser " is not root. |
| 13:12.27 | frenchie | got to work brb |
| 13:12.34 | debian133 | frenchie, now, i want to connect in my server with root : " root > ssh dometech@server " :) |
| 13:12.40 | frenchie | generate key with mysuser |
| 13:12.55 | frenchie | root may be disabled by default for sshing |
| 13:13.25 | Smither | Heya. Just installed debian on my laptop, and the trackpad doesn't work. I have done `xinput list` and the only mouse that shows is a "virtual core XTEST pointer". and when i do `cat /proc/bus/input/devices` I don't get anything remotely mouse/trackpad like. Haven't a clue where to go from here, any pointers would be fantastic. |
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| 13:14.00 | debian133 | frenchie, Mmm, strange because I can connect in ssh (but password required). You think generate key with other user in my locale machine ? |
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| 13:18.18 | frenchie | yes debian133 generate and copy id too .. |
| 13:18.30 | debian133 | thanks frenchie :) |
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| 13:30.52 | debian133 | frenchie, I see this "Now try logging into the machine, with: "ssh -p '9325' 'myuser@37.***.***.***'" and check to make sure that only the key(s) you wanted were added." ; but password is requested again ... :/ |
| 13:32.30 | frenchie | last time I hope .. paste your log plz, |
| 13:32.37 | debian133 | This is my Gist : https://gist.github.com/GaylordP/f9006d08f3d5d458c9c4e65c0eb58709 |
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| 13:36.38 | frenchie | in /home/youruser/authorized_keys you have something ? debian133 |
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| 13:36.48 | frenchie | on the remote host |
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| 13:37.53 | frenchie | ' .ssh/authorized_keys' * sorry |
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| 13:39.23 | debian133 | frenchie, yes I have public key rsa content |
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| 13:39.43 | DammitJim | is there a way to set the dpi for 1 screen, but not another? |
| 13:39.55 | Walex | DammitJim: yes |
| 13:39.56 | DammitJim | the fonts are tiny on my laptop, but they are normal on my external monitor |
| 13:40.08 | DammitJim | my laptop is a 14", but my external is 22 or something |
| 13:40.08 | ratrace | Hello. Anyone using selinux on debian? are the policies up to date and well integrated with debian or is there a lot of manual work to get them going? |
| 13:40.09 | Walex | DammitJim: that's a different problem... |
| 13:40.17 | Walakea | i have currently installed GNOME on jessie, i would like to tee how KDE looks, i know there is a package that contains only the GUI (without applications), if i install it will i be able to easily remove it? |
| 13:40.18 | DammitJim | Walex, what do you mean? |
| 13:40.21 | frenchie | debian133: sorry we must be missing something very simple but I just don't see it |
| 13:40.43 | Walex | Walakea: yes |
| 13:40.47 | DammitJim | I have been able to increase the dpi on ALL of them with xrandr, but then my stuff is huge on my external monitors |
| 13:40.51 | debian133 | Thanks ... I answer french forum (debian-fr) :) |
| 13:40.55 | DammitJim | what else would it be Walex ? |
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| 13:41.12 | frenchie | cool debian133 |
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| 13:41.47 | Walex | DammitJim: you can set the DPI on different X11 'screens' and evenn on different monitors mapped to the same 'screen', but applications don't always care (actually, almost never) |
| 13:42.06 | DammitJim | ok, how do I do that per monitor? |
| 13:42.27 | Walakea | but there is no way to see KDE 5 on jessie without issueas, right? |
| 13:43.03 | Walex | DammitJim: 'man xrandr' => '--dpi' |
| 13:43.20 | DammitJim | Walex, that's what I used, but that does it for ALL monitors |
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| 13:43.32 | Walex | DammitJim: '--output' |
| 13:43.57 | DammitJim | I used --output but still no go |
| 13:44.10 | DammitJim | now, since you are saying that this is a different problem... what would be a proper test when I do this? |
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| 13:44.28 | DammitJim | I was just doing this by looking at "transmission"'s interface |
| 13:44.39 | Walex | DammitJim: then the CPU driver does not allow you to set different DPI for different monitors... |
| 13:44.47 | DammitJim | and it just became super huge on my external monitors even though I was setting the --output to my eDP1 |
| 13:45.01 | DammitJim | oh, that's a GPU driver? |
| 13:45.02 | DammitJim | thing |
| 13:45.29 | Walex | DammitJim: 'xterm -fa monospace-10' and you can try 'xterm -fa monospace-10:dpi=...' |
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| 13:46.05 | Walex | DammitJim: but most GUI libraries ignore the X11 reported DPI, and don't allow specifying different DPIs. |
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| 13:46.12 | DammitJim | thank you |
| 13:46.15 | DammitJim | that's all I wanted to know |
| 13:46.21 | Walakea | kde-plasma-desktop does not seem minimal to me, it even contains VLC |
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| 13:47.35 | Walex | DammitJim: also 'xdpyinfo | grep dpi' of course |
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| 13:47.44 | DammitJim | Walex, I did that |
| 13:47.48 | Walex | DammitJim: also 'xdpyinfo | grep dots' of course |
| 13:47.53 | DammitJim | and that shows the dpi for all my monitors together |
| 13:47.56 | DammitJim | not per monitor |
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| 13:49.49 | Walex | DammitJim: things are more complicated than you think. Curse Keith Packard whenever you can |
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| 13:50.18 | DammitJim | that's ok |
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| 13:50.30 | DammitJim | I was just trying to make sure I wasn't doing anything stupid which happens 90% of the time |
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| 13:51.31 | Walex | DammitJim: you are trying to do something that should work, but the reason why usually it does not is usually complicated, but it all goes back to that Keith Packard guy and his moronic changes |
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| 13:56.15 | kasimon | Hello everyone. Is there a place where one can download older debian isos or at least the content? |
| 13:56.42 | kasimon | I'm looking for the latest wheezy amd64 cd, jigdo and/or netinst would be okay. |
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| 13:58.49 | petemc | !archive |
| 13:58.49 | dpkg | well, archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 14:01.04 | ewew | Hi. Why is system with systemd ignoring setting in /etc/default/devpts file ? |
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| 14:08.47 | kasimon | petemc: Awesome, thanks. I was looking at debian archive and cdimage.d.o, but missed that folder. |
| 14:10.04 | themill | ewew: that config file is for sysvinit |
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| 14:13.36 | ewew | thermill What do you suggest to correct this ? I know i must read the docs for systemd. |
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| 14:17.25 | s123 | Hi guys. What do you guys do when the stable kernel is buggy and the backports kernel is even worse? |
| 14:17.59 | aypea[1] | take up fishing |
| 14:18.19 | aypea[1] | rolls his own anyway. |
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| 14:18.34 | Nik05 | run the one from experimental |
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| 14:19.16 | kasimon | s123: apt show kernel-package |
| 14:19.47 | themill | You also make sure you have written actionable bug reports |
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| 14:24.15 | ewew | themill From where it get the mount parameters for /dev/pts ? |
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| 14:27.59 | themill | ewew: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/11/msg00800.html |
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| 14:28.31 | ewew | thermill or fstab ? |
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| 14:34.35 | ratrace | Anyone using selinux on debian? are the policies up to date and well integrated with debian or is there a lot of manual work to get them going? |
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| 14:37.32 | jelly | ratrace: last time I looked it up, the policies were basically completely unmaintained |
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| 14:42.05 | jelly | ,v linux-image-grsec-amd64 |
| 14:42.06 | judd | Package: linux-image-grsec-amd64 on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 7~bpo8+1; sid: 7 |
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| 14:52.22 | hypermist | collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 14:52.23 | hypermist | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:52.26 | hypermist | Well gosh darnit |
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| 15:01.08 | ratrace | jelly: thanks. |
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| 15:08.35 | jhutchins | hypermist: Sounds like a kernel module failed to load. Check dmesg? |
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| 15:09.20 | jhutchins | hypermist: No, I'm sorry, ld is part of the build/compile process. |
| 15:09.22 | jhutchins | hypermist: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 15:10.08 | greycat | There definitely has to be more error than just that. |
| 15:11.05 | jml2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibniz |
| 15:11.08 | jml2 | sry |
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| 15:19.12 | ladder | PowerPC kernel from main repo.. |
| 15:19.40 | ladder | ...does it contains binary blobs ??? |
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| 15:25.57 | Devastator | I'm trying to install Debian 8.4 with netinst image in qemu 2.1 and during the installation it gives errors like "Unknown localized field: ....", has anyone ever seen this? during a quick google research about it, I've seen only really old topics about it |
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| 15:58.34 | Angelicaa | Hey guys, i'd like to go about installing the latest kernel for my system. |
| 15:59.14 | Angelicaa | Does anyone recommend these? linux-headers-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64 - Header files for Linux 4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64 |
| 15:59.14 | Angelicaa | linux-image-4.4.0-1-grsec-amd64 - Linux 4.4 for 64-bit PCs, Grsecurity protection |
| 15:59.27 | Angelicaa | i got them from apt-cache search linux-image |
| 16:00.20 | greycat | what's wrong with the kernel you have now? |
| 16:01.14 | Angelicaa | 3.16? idk i just want to upgrade for the experience |
| 16:01.19 | Angelicaa | ;3 |
| 16:01.37 | greycat | Love it when they make it easy on me. |
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| 16:01.57 | Angelicaa | So what warrants no answer? >.> |
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| 16:02.23 | Angelicaa | Does the reasoning have to serve you justice before you're willing to offer me your advise? |
| 16:02.26 | olx69 | hi, which package contains LVM's lvmconfig ? |
| 16:02.58 | olx69 | as mentioned in man lvmthin(7) ? |
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| 16:04.28 | greycat | I don't see an lvmconfig in the SEE ALSO of lvmthin(7). Nor do I find one if I search the page for lvmconfig. |
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| 16:05.54 | Echo6 | Hey, I need the device information from a busybox instance |
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| 16:06.04 | Echo6 | I want the CPU details and memory details. |
| 16:06.08 | Angelicaa | Hmm, i guess the upgrade process of a kernel is more difficult than one had expected |
| 16:06.11 | Echo6 | Any thoughts on how to get it? |
| 16:06.20 | Angelicaa | Can't believe that's all it took to stump the IRC Channel |
| 16:06.23 | Angelicaa | bye guys |
| 16:06.24 | greycat | Ask #busybox |
| 16:06.28 | olx69 | http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmthin.7.html |
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| 16:06.30 | Echo6 | ahhh. Thank you! |
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| 16:08.44 | rattking | Echo6: you can 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and 'cat /proc/meminfo' to get that info.. assuming that busybox build has cat :) |
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| 16:13.58 | hypermist | jhutchins, its alright its solved i was a noob |
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| 16:24.26 | hubot__ | how to run "curl" command when i am on windows? |
| 16:25.05 | greycat | How would we know? Ask ##windows instead. |
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| 16:26.32 | Devastator | I'm trying to install Debian 8.4 with netinst image in qemu 2.1 and during the installation it gives errors like "Unknown localized field: ....", I don't think it is caused by a corrupted iso as md5 matches, honestly I don't know where to look for |
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| 16:29.34 | rozie | Devastator: which language do you use during installation? |
| 16:29.49 | Devastator | rozie English |
| 16:29.55 | styler2go | how can i forward ipv6 traffic between wlan0 and wlan1? |
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| 16:30.50 | petn-randall | styler2go: Is NAT involved? |
| 16:31.29 | rozie | Devastator: that's strange. I'd use any livecd and debootstrap Debian |
| 16:31.49 | Iridos | Devastator, the openstack thing one finds looks also oldish... but as they said *they* fixed it for debian, it's probably not something that has been changed in the installer |
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| 16:32.08 | olx69 | I created a thinpool as described at http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmthin.7.html, see http://pastebin.com/FfuHZLD1. But lvm dumpconfig --type default --withcomment activation/thin_pool_autoextend_threshold doesn't show this settings |
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| 16:32.23 | olx69 | thin_pool_autoextend_threshold=100, which seems to be the global defaults; how to get them for the sepcific pool? |
| 16:32.34 | Devastator | Iridos how should I proceed then? |
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| 16:35.03 | styler2go | petn-randall, i am not sure anymore :( i just want to have anipv6 repeater |
| 16:35.12 | jhutchins | Iridos: How did openstack get into this? |
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| 16:35.46 | Iridos | Iridos, when you google the error... you find they did something to get rid of the problem with that error |
| 16:36.12 | Iridos | (together with debian 7) |
| 16:36.33 | Devastator | it is odd.. at this point I'm thinking about starting all over |
| 16:37.06 | Iridos | something's not utf8 save |
| 16:37.25 | petn-randall | styler2go: Repeater? Sounds like you don't want a router, but a network bridge. |
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| 16:37.51 | petn-randall | styler2go: Should all devices on both sides behave as if they're on the same network? |
| 16:37.52 | styler2go | petn-randall, yes, i just want all traffic from wlan1 to wlan0 |
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| 16:38.06 | styler2go | petn-randall, in best case yes, but not necessary |
| 16:38.07 | Iridos | err, jhutchins not me... now people think I like talking with myself :-/ |
| 16:38.14 | Pseudo | hi hello there |
| 16:38.29 | styler2go | wlan0 is hosting the access point with hostapd and wlan1 is connected to the wifi currently |
| 16:38.35 | Pseudo | what the problem with openssl any issue with that ? |
| 16:38.46 | jhutchins | styler2go: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
| 16:38.57 | Pseudo | because am using any irc client which is failed to connect to a ssl port |
| 16:39.11 | styler2go | jhutchins, tried that with iptables, it worked at work with ipv4 but at home i only have ipv6 and it doesnt work anym1ore |
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| 16:39.16 | jhutchins | Pseudo: No problem here with irssi. Check your port. |
| 16:39.26 | Pseudo | currently been trying irssi and weechat |
| 16:39.34 | jhutchins | styler2go: Ah. Rules are different for 6. |
| 16:39.45 | Pseudo | jhutchins: i cant use either port 6697 or 7000 in irssi |
| 16:40.13 | Pseudo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.18 | styler2go | can you help me setting it up, jhutchins ? |
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| 16:40.52 | Pseudo | orh its ok |
| 16:41.04 | Pseudo | well i try another server othe rthan freenode |
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| 16:43.44 | jmcnaught | Devastator: when do you get that error? are you doing a preseed? |
| 16:44.32 | Devastator | jmcnaught sometimes after I select country, longest I could get was after setting root account and user account |
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| 16:45.44 | jmcnaught | Devastator: do you get the same problem if you choose a different country? |
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| 16:46.47 | Devastator | jmcnaught I didn't try, next on the list.. |
| 16:47.19 | Devastator | jmcnaught problem is, if I choose another country I will have to set date and time manually :( |
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| 16:48.06 | jmcnaught | Devastator: this is for troubleshooting, figuring out what the problem is |
| 16:49.16 | Devastator | jmcnaught yes, I have no problem doing it |
| 16:49.20 | Devastator | let me see |
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| 16:50.47 | jmcnaught | Devastator: also you mentioned qemu, are you launching qemu from the cli, or are you in some sort of virt-manager console? |
| 16:51.01 | Devastator | jmcnaught virt-manager |
| 16:51.30 | Devastator | jmcnaught you helped me setup what I have so far :) |
| 16:51.36 | petn-randall | styler2go: Then you want to bridge both interfaces. https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections |
| 16:51.50 | Devastator | jmcnaught yesterday the problem was I downloaded arm64 image instead of amd64 |
| 16:52.55 | petn-randall | styler2go: Bridging is OSI layer 2 (MAC addresses), routing is on OSI layer 3 (IP addresses). |
| 16:53.08 | jmcnaught | Devastator: doh! i actually keep a small VM on my laptop that boots directly into the installer, but i cannot make it give me this error. what language/region settings are you using? |
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| 16:53.13 | styler2go | gimme that osi 2 |
| 16:53.24 | styler2go | could you help me doing that or is it easy? |
| 16:54.02 | Devastator | jmcnaught I'm choosing language English, country Brazil and keymap Brazilian |
| 16:56.04 | jhutchins | styler2go: I don't know the methods for ipv6 yet, I would need to research. I have true ipv6 from my provider but really haven't messed with it. The lag is a lot worse than my ipv4. |
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| 16:57.44 | jmcnaught | Devastator: hmmm.. and the default locale you choose is en_US.UTF-8? |
| 16:57.51 | Devastator | jmcnaught yes sir |
| 16:59.25 | jhutchins | Devastator: Does the error prevent the installer from completing? |
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| 16:59.42 | styler2go | petn-randall, brctl addif br0 wlan0 wlan1; can't add wlan0 to bridge br0: Operation not supported |
| 16:59.56 | Devastator | jhutchins yes, it goes to a black screen, throwing those messages in a loop |
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| 17:00.26 | jhutchins | Devastator: It's possible it's a bad copy of the installer. |
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| 17:00.35 | jhutchins | Devastator: Did you verify the iso and the burn? |
| 17:01.05 | Devastator | jhutchins I'm making qemu boot the iso directly and md5 matches, can it still be bad? |
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| 17:01.45 | theseb | dhcp question.....every reboot my linux box may get a new private IP address.....how receive the new address? (Can dynamic dns work with PRIVATE LANS/addresses too?) |
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| 17:02.26 | asd213 | guys, what's the best way to compile a kernel straight from upstream sources? make deb-pkg or make-kpkg? |
| 17:03.03 | markybob | make deb-pkg per handbook. you should read it. make-kpkg is no longer supported |
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| 17:04.46 | jmcnaught | Devastator: this is "virsh dumpxml" of my installer VM if you want to compare: http://paste.debian.net/683610/ |
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| 17:05.12 | markybob | asd213: read 4.5 and 4.6 http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-kernel-org-package |
| 17:05.40 | styler2go | petn-randall, is it workign for wifi? |
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| 17:06.59 | Devastator | jmcnaught how do I list domains? |
| 17:08.14 | Iridos | Devastator, can you manually _set_ the locale? |
| 17:08.24 | jmcnaught | Devastator: virsh list (you probably need to use "-c qemu:///system" for all virsh commands, leaving them out for simplicity) |
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| 17:10.37 | crash_ | does deb-pkg handle multicore when compiling with set concurrent_level? |
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| 17:12.32 | asd213 | markybob. Ty. Found this: https://debian-handbook.info/browse/jessie/sect.kernel-compilation.html Do you know what happens if I ommit LOCALVERSION? |
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| 17:14.28 | greycat | I know a way you could find out what happens. |
| 17:14.37 | Devastator | Iridos no :( |
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| 17:16.07 | RippyDippy | Devastator says Iridos says no |
| 17:16.43 | Devastator | jmcnaught well, I've deleted the other vm and created a new one, unfortunately I'm remotely connected to my work computer which is then connected to the "vm server" |
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| 17:16.55 | Devastator | jmcnaught gonna test in about 40 min |
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| 17:55.18 | Devastator | jmcnaught I'm gonna start over now that I have a bit more knowledge, no backported kernel this time |
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| 18:05.00 | Smither | Heya. Just installed debian on my laptop, and the trackpad doesn't work. I have done `xinput list` and the only mouse that shows is a "virtual core XTEST pointer". and when i do `cat /proc/bus/input/devices` I don't get anything remotely mouse/trackpad like. Haven't a clue where to go from here, any pointers would be fantastic. |
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| 18:05.40 | somiaj | Smither: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if you can find more info |
| 18:06.16 | somiaj | Smither: There are two common problems. 1) The kernel is not correctly identifying your trackpad device and thus not making it available to the os. 2) xorg is not correctly detecting the device. |
| 18:06.23 | somiaj | the log will only check the second |
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| 18:08.44 | jelly | Smither: which debian release is that btw? |
| 18:08.55 | Smither | somiaj: if i grep the log for "pad" or "syn" i don't get anything related to trackpads or mouse or pointer devices or anything |
| 18:09.53 | Smither | debian 8.4 |
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| 18:14.23 | Smither | however a USB mouse does work totally fine and does show up in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 18:18.34 | somiaj | Smither: sounds like it might be an issue with the kernel. Just to double check, you don't happen to have the touchpad turned off in the bios? |
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| 18:19.07 | Smither | let me check, but I'm 98% sure not. I haven't deliberately done that |
| 18:19.16 | Iridos | does rather sound as if there's nothing coming from the kernel... |
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| 18:20.38 | Iridos | Smither, you could do "cat /dev/input/mice" and then move around on it... IIRC any pointing device should be translated there |
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| 18:21.27 | Smither | k I'l try that Iridos, also there is no option i can find in the bios to disable it |
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| 18:23.03 | Iridos | I guess not seeing it in xinput amounts to the same... still, only takes a couple of seconds |
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| 18:23.58 | Smither | Iridos: optical mouse does display in there, touchpad doesn't |
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| 18:25.06 | Smither | also if i ls /dev/input it shows only one mouse, mouse0, which is my optical mouse |
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| 18:28.15 | hubot__ | how to browse internet without google? |
| 18:29.19 | greycat | Follow links from page to page. This was called "surfing" back in the 1990s. The original meaning of the word has been lost over time. |
| 18:29.38 | jhutchins | hubot__: Use a different search engine. |
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| 18:30.25 | greycat | Fine, ignore me. |
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| 18:30.40 | greycat | What is the purpose of this question, exactly? |
| 18:31.07 | Iridos | Smither, well... at this point it would be good to know the exact hardware so one can check if kernels support it and from what version on... |
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| 18:31.49 | Iridos | Smither, on the other hand, you could just try to install the newer kernel from backports and see if it supports it (see http://backports.debian.org/ ) |
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| 18:32.15 | Smither | Iridos: Acer Aspire ES1-512 only about 1.5yrs old now |
| 18:32.21 | Smither | and ok I'll try that |
| 18:32.30 | Iridos | I meant of the touchpad stuff |
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| 18:33.27 | Iridos | most useful thing would be if lspci -nn shows it... (but can't see that on my laptop) |
| 18:33.31 | Smither | the touch pad is the inbuilt one I'll get a part number, one sec |
| 18:34.49 | somiaj | Iridos: It might be the touch pad is on the ps2 device still or usb not pci |
| 18:35.10 | somiaj | Iridos, Smither: I'd expect the device to be in lsusb over lspci or just not listed if it is still using the ps2 bus |
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| 18:38.34 | Smither | somiaj: in lsusb there are a couple of things that don't say what they are... something from chicony electronics Co, and something from Lite-on Technology Corp |
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| 18:43.21 | PaulePanter | Hi. How do you deal with these new fancy distributed mirrors (deb.debian.org), when some of them go out of sync? |
| 18:43.24 | PaulePanter | Feh http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main i386 libc6 i386 2.22-9 404 Not Found [IP: 80.252.110.38 80] |
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| 18:43.43 | PaulePanter | is there an option to tell APT to try again for a certain amount of time? |
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| 18:45.45 | Iridos | somiaj, yeah... I didn't see mine with lsusb either... well not obviously. but anyway, we can't ask judd about an usbid :P |
| 18:47.04 | somiaj | yea I wonder what bus it uses then, maybe they are still on the ps2 bus |
| 18:47.55 | somiaj | maybe lshw would list it? |
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| 18:49.12 | Iridos | only thing not clearly identifyable are two "intel integrated rate matching hups" that I have... but that doesn't sound right |
| 18:49.17 | somiaj | Smither: how old of a laptop? |
| 18:49.23 | Iridos | he said 1.5y |
| 18:49.42 | somiaj | PaulePanter: deb.debian.org? Do you mean httpredir.debian.org? |
| 18:49.49 | jelly | Welcome to deb.debian.org! This is deb.debian.org. This is an experimental service. |
| 18:50.15 | Smither | yeh I got it about a year ago but the model wasn't new then |
| 18:50.30 | jelly | that last quoted sentence is in bold. |
| 18:50.56 | somiaj | ahh, its something new, I can't keep up with the changes. |
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| 18:51.09 | debian894 | Hello, I installed Capistrano for Website deployment and SSH Key for connect to my webserver. I can connect on my server with SSH Key with " git@myip -p 9325 ". But, when I went to deploy, I have this error "Connection refused" (ip, user, port and depot git is true). Can you help me ? Sorry for my bad english I'm french. Thanks :) |
| 18:51.26 | somiaj | Smither: I don't think this will fix the issue, but you could try a kernel from jessie-backports. I doubt it is the issue though. |
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| 18:51.53 | Smither | K i'll install that and see what happens, I'll report back in a couple of mins |
| 18:51.57 | jelly | PaulePanter: so try the slightly older fancy redirector at httpredir.debian.org instead, maybe |
| 18:53.02 | somiaj | PaulePanter: what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:53.35 | PaulePanter | somiaj, jelly: I did get the same errors with httpredir.debian.net and http.debian.net before that. |
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| 18:54.23 | greycat | !httpredir issues |
| 18:54.23 | dpkg | The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code). Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>. |
| 18:54.26 | PaulePanter | debian894: Did you put the port in Capistranos configuration? What is the output? |
| 18:54.50 | Iridos | PaulePanter, just use the old http://ftp.xx.debian.org with the country code? |
| 18:55.05 | greycat | That's what I always do. |
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| 18:55.26 | PaulePanter | greycat, Iridos: Itâs only happening once a week or even less. |
| 18:55.27 | debian894 | Thanks PaulePanter, I put the port in repo_url : set :repo_url, 'ssh://git@myserver:9325/var/www/depotsGit/project.git/' |
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| 18:55.58 | Ungy | I want to purge a single package and tehn reinstall it without having to redownload any of the dependencies how woudl I remove and purge that one package |
| 18:56.07 | greycat | dpkg --purge --force-depends |
| 18:56.07 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up --force-depends all over greycat and DammitJim... |
| 18:56.11 | greycat | shut up |
| 18:56.26 | Iridos | you asked for that :) |
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| 18:56.47 | jelly | she's barfed, Jim |
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| 18:58.13 | PaulePanter | debian894: Does it work now? |
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| 18:59.02 | t4nk557 | Hello guys, i've a question, i've a huge file filled with proxy IP numbers. What do I need to type after sort to only keep the first IP that has the sames 3 first set of numbers ? |
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| 18:59.28 | greycat | That sounds like a really bad question. How do you know every network has a /24 netmask? |
| 18:59.32 | DammitJim | woot? |
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| 18:59.56 | debian894 | Thanks PaulePanter, I have this error again sh: connect to host MYIP port 9325: Connection refused |
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| 19:00.57 | t4nk557 | greycat: ? |
| 19:01.03 | PaulePanter | debian894: Are you sure, that ssh://git@myserver:9325/var/www/depotsGit/project.git/ is the correct syntax? |
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| 19:01.30 | t4nk557 | How would a dude that doesnt even know how to remove duplicate 3 set of number could do any tech harm lel |
| 19:01.32 | greycat | t4nk557: the first three octets are not necessarily the network for any given IP. Without knowing the netmask you cannot determine the network. |
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| 19:02.01 | t4nk557 | I'm fine with that, I'm just trying things |
| 19:02.04 | debian894 | Yes PaulePanter , I'm sure beacause when I push with Netbeans, it's work true ... and same depots ... |
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| 19:03.12 | PaulePanter | debian894: `set :repo_url, 'ssh://git@example.com:30000/~/me/my_repo.git' from the documentation http://capistranorb.com/documentation/getting-started/configuration/# |
| 19:03.29 | PaulePanter | debian894: I would have expected a : after the port though. |
| 19:03.54 | somiaj | Smither: On my laptop (decided to power it up), seems my touchpad uses the ps2 mousedriver (so the ps2 bus and unsure how to check that) |
| 19:03.55 | PaulePanter | debian894: Try to set the port in `~/.ssh/config` and leave it out from the Capistrano configuration. |
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| 19:04.09 | somiaj | Smither: I was able to find the mouse mentioned in dmesg, and i'm using the module 'psmouse' for it. |
| 19:04.11 | PaulePanter | debian894: man ssh_config |
| 19:04.29 | somiaj | Smither: I'm unsure about drivers for fancer touchpads (I just disable my touch pad and use a wireless mouse as I don't like touchpadS) |
| 19:04.47 | Iridos | for some reason I wonder if that's the same guy who asked how to crack passwords the last time |
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| 19:09.33 | Iridos | or homework, it's mighty specific |
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| 19:13.09 | Ungy | if I screwed a package up and manually deleted some files and I only get errors from apt and dpkg tryign to remove the package How do I get rid of it completely so dpkg will redownload it and rinstall it without any fragmented crap? |
| 19:13.34 | debian894 | PaulePanter, when I add ":" after the port, this connect on 22 port. |
| 19:13.37 | greycat | What errors do you get when purging it with dpkg (not apt)? |
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| 19:13.56 | Ungy | it is looking for a file that doesn;t exist |
| 19:14.01 | greycat | *what errors* |
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| 19:14.34 | Ungy | aha nevermind I got it found the last nasty fragment thanks for the help though |
| 19:14.46 | debian894 | PaulePanter and I think mu SSH config is true, because I can connect with console " ssh git@myserver -p 9325 ". Juste Capistrano return error :/ |
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| 19:15.21 | greycat | debian894: the ssh_config suggestion was for you to put the port number in the ~/.ssh/config file so you don't have to enter it on the command line. |
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| 19:15.39 | greycat | That way the thing that is wrapping ssh for you doesn't have to know how to specify a port. |
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| 19:16.10 | debian894 | Oh ok, thank grecat, I search make this |
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| 19:16.42 | greycat | Host whatever.domain.name |
| 19:16.46 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:18.06 | greycat | Of course this only works if your wrapping-thing ("capistrano"?) invokes /usr/bin/ssh rather than implementing the protocol internally. |
| 19:18.17 | greycat | But the odds are pretty good. |
| 19:18.36 | Iridos | capistrano - tool to execute commands in parallel on multiple servers |
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| 19:18.55 | Iridos | written in ruby, of all things |
| 19:18.59 | greycat | Gods, how many of those are there now? |
| 19:19.26 | Iridos | this must be the... 6th one I heard of? |
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| 19:19.36 | Iridos | maybe 7th? |
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| 19:20.25 | greycat | They're multiplying like text editors or desktop environments. |
| 19:20.27 | Iridos | it's kind of good there are so many, because a lot of them are pretty crappy in some way |
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| 19:20.35 | debian894 | Thanks greycat & PaulePanter, I created ssh config file. I can connect with command, but no with Capistrano, same error :( |
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| 19:23.29 | Iridos | that looks kinda complicated... more like puppet or so |
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| 19:30.15 | Iridos | debian894, did you read in /usr/share/doc/capistrano/README.md.gz ? |
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| 19:31.27 | telecity | w |
| 19:31.36 | Iridos | they explicitly set port in "Using password authentication" ... but no idea how that would go together with your config |
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| 19:41.46 | SerajewelKS | i have an internet-facing MTA (postfix with virtual users) that serves mail with courier (pop + pop-ssl), and i have another server at my house that polls courier every minute and pulls down mail for one specific user into a local dovecot server |
| 19:42.15 | SerajewelKS | i'm trying to eliminate this one-minute polling cycle and allow the postfix server to notify my LAN server that it should fetch mail |
| 19:42.17 | Skyrider | How easy would it be to setup debian with STUN? I think, so I can use my phone to connect to my home IP address to make / receive calls. |
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| 19:42.25 | Skyrider | with SIP. |
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| 19:42.47 | jelly | SerajewelKS: set up an imap-capable server side with IMAP IDLE support |
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| 19:45.43 | SerajewelKS | jelly: that's one option i'm considering |
| 19:46.01 | SerajewelKS | jelly: i don't suppose that courier and dovecot can coexist sharing the same maildirs? |
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| 19:48.58 | greycat | They can't both share the same IMAP listening port, that's for sure. |
| 19:49.03 | jelly | SerajewelKS: never tried anything that silly, just local mutt + dovecot |
| 19:49.22 | jelly | mutt tampering with Maildir directly, that is |
| 19:49.34 | greycat | I gave up on courier-imap after they changed their entire setup around in some godawful confusing way that I couldn't be bothered to try to sort out. |
| 19:49.52 | greycat | If you make it *THAT* fucking hard to use normal unix user accounts with passwords, something is wrong with you. |
| 19:50.20 | SerajewelKS | jelly: in my case i don't want my edge MTA storing all of my mail, i want that on my local server, which is then served using IMAP to my desktop/mobile clients |
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| 19:51.09 | jelly | usually people transport mail using some sort of a... simple mail transport protocol |
| 19:51.15 | koollman | :) |
| 19:51.33 | greycat | I don't know what IMAP IDLE is, but a reverse ssh tunnel would also allow you to deliver mail from the "edge server" to the "local server" even if the "edge server" cannot make a direct SMTP connection to the "local server". |
| 19:51.51 | jelly | greycat: think "push notifications" |
| 19:51.59 | greycat | I was guessing something like that. |
| 19:52.05 | SerajewelKS | jelly: i did think about forwarding, but that has the downside that if my home server goes offline for an extended period of time (it has happened unexpectedly due to ISP dumbness) then my edge MTA is going to start bouncing stuff |
| 19:52.22 | greycat | Um. And this is a problem because...? |
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| 19:53.24 | SerajewelKS | it seems a bit obvious to me? |
| 19:53.37 | greycat | if your mail server is down for 10 days, then mail bounces. |
| 19:54.03 | SerajewelKS | in the case where i control both the edge and the local server, i would rather mail pool on the edge indefinitely until the local server comes back up |
| 19:54.12 | greycat | You are weird. |
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| 19:54.16 | jelly | 5 days, but SerajewelKS controls his own previous hop, so he can configure whatever queue lifetime |
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| 19:54.36 | greycat | Well, a fixed number of days, generally around 7, configured in the MTA. |
| 19:55.13 | jelly | I've... not seen anytihng larger than 5 says since I first saw a Sendmail install 20 years back |
| 19:55.21 | SerajewelKS | greycat: i am treating the local server as a mail store, not an MTA -- if mail can be delivered to the edge MTA i don't want to lose it. it's my mail. if my mail store is down then it can sit there until the mail store becomes available. |
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| 19:56.41 | SerajewelKS | (and then i have the fallback option of sshing to my edge server and reading the mail with mutt) |
| 19:57.21 | jelly | why not always use the remote imap server, then |
| 19:57.29 | jelly | (pop3 must die) |
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| 19:57.56 | greycat | Set up a script that sshes to the remote box and runs the queue. Set the "local server" up to run that script every time you open your MUA. |
| 19:57.59 | SerajewelKS | i'm not fond of all of my mail sitting in storage on rented hardware |
| 19:58.32 | jelly | SerajewelKS: why not? If you need backup, set up backup. |
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| 20:03.06 | SerajewelKS | (sorry, at work, responses delayed sometimes) i do backups of my local maildir regularly. basically if the edge gets compromised, i don't want the attacker to suddenly have access to all of my past messages. |
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| 20:06.31 | SerajewelKS | but i suppose switching from courier to dovecot on the edge is a good idea anyway, and that will allow me to have instant delivery to the mail store using IDLE |
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| 20:09.19 | jelly | assuming your client supports it as well |
| 20:09.51 | SerajewelKS | the client would be getmail which IIRC does |
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| 20:24.09 | BlenderPro | is there a package for debian 8.1 that allows me to capture video from a dv bridge |
| 20:24.17 | devster31 | which package provides or reads from the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 20:24.45 | greycat | Why would you be three point-released behind on stable? |
| 20:25.05 | greycat | devster31: the ifup and ifdown commands, for starters. |
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| 20:25.30 | greycat | devster31: then, whatever boot scripts (systemd something something?) that use those commands. |
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| 20:27.16 | devster31 | service should be ifup@.service I assumed they were dependent on ifconfig |
| 20:28.04 | greycat | $ dpkg -S ifup@ |
| 20:28.04 | greycat | systemd: /lib/systemd/system/ifup@.service |
| 20:28.27 | devster31 | instead they're dependent on iproute2 and I like that |
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| 21:01.28 | Smither | somiaj, Iridos: I have updated the kernel to the jessie-backports version and it still isn't working any other ideas? |
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| 21:05.07 | Iridos | Smither, look in dmesg output if you see anything related from booting |
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| 21:05.57 | Iridos | if not... well, I once had an acer laptop whose SD card reader wasn't detected at *all* ... and there was no kernel in the following 10 years that I had it that would support it |
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| 21:07.46 | Iridos | Smither, and apparently/probably there are buttons to enable/disable the touchpad... I guess you pressed those? |
| 21:07.46 | Smither | nothing that i can find in there :( |
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| 21:08.09 | Smither | yes fn+f7 |
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| 21:08.27 | Iridos | does anything turn up in dmesg or /var/log/messages when you do that? |
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| 21:09.36 | Smither | no nothing |
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| 21:12.07 | Iridos | Smither, I guess you could also try loading synaptics_usb and synaptics_i2c ... but they're not what makes MY touchpad run, because that hadn't got that loaded |
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| 21:13.29 | Smither | alright, thanks for the help iridos |
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| 21:13.51 | Iridos | I dunno... my laptop only has psmouse loaded, and touchpad and that weird nipple thing to move the mouse both work |
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| 21:14.34 | greycat | I hope someone figures out what the hell these new touchpads need, because this is the third(?) instance of this question I've seen in the last month. |
| 21:14.55 | Smither | oh really?? that's weird |
| 21:15.20 | maxdml | I was wondering: is there a way to load a kernel module and make it available for a given linux container only? My understanding was that any loaded kernel module would be shared among all containers. I'm trying to have two versions of a module for two different containers. |
| 21:15.26 | Iridos | could be compiled in and not a module... but... ps2mouse is a module, touchpads not? |
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| 21:15.47 | greycat | I'm assuming there's more than one kind of touchpad now. |
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| 21:15.54 | greycat | One that uses psmouse and works, and one that doesn't. |
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| 21:16.10 | greycat | This is just a guess. |
| 21:16.22 | Iridos | Smither, seems the psmouse kernel module does it for me... at least I have a message in dmesg |
| 21:16.35 | Iridos | psmouse serio1: synaptics: queried max coordinates blabla... |
| 21:16.42 | Iridos | do you have that loaded? |
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| 21:17.02 | Smither | not for me, it isn't loaded and if i modprobe it it loads properly but nothing uses it |
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| 21:18.32 | Iridos | how would you know if something uses it |
| 21:19.30 | Smither | is that not what the second number is on lsmod? that's just a complete and utter guess on my part |
| 21:20.58 | greycat | That's the number of other modules that depend on it, not a reflection of hardware devices. |
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| 21:21.10 | BlenderPro | is there a package for debian 8.1 that allows me to capture video from a dv bridge |
| 21:21.26 | greycat | Again, why are you 3 point releases behind on stable? |
| 21:21.43 | greycat | Alas, I have no idea what a dv bridge is nor any clue about video capturing software. |
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| 21:22.00 | Smither | ah k thanks greycat |
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| 21:24.13 | jmcnaught | BlenderPro: try browsing the categories here, maybe video or broadcasting will have what you want: http://blends.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/ |
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| 21:24.55 | BlenderPro | jmcnaught: k |
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| 21:26.56 | Iridos | Smither, you only see in lsmod if other modules use the module, not if userland uses it |
| 21:27.39 | Iridos | seems I got late to that one |
| 21:29.17 | Iridos | Smither, look with xinput and/or /dev/input/mice again... I guess you can try loading all modules from /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/ and see if there's any recognitiion |
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| 21:32.52 | Iridos | Smither, I also googled for your laptop... there seem precious few people who tried to put linux on it... and I am not sure any succceeded far enough to see problems with the touchpad. That this is a total blank is also not so encouraging http://www.linlap.com/acer_aspire_es1-511 |
| 21:34.40 | Smither | lol yeh that's one hell of a lot of untested :P |
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| 21:52.30 | maxdml | Would it be possible to have a specific scheduling policy for a pair of resource controller / cgroup ? |
| 21:52.39 | maxdml | Say for example CFS/BFS for the cpu subsystem |
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| 22:12.42 | NightKhaos | Anyone else having hash mismatches with the Chrome repo? |
| 22:13.24 | markybob | NightKhaos: it's a testing problem (which is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net) and they're aware. google is supposedly going to fix it soon |
| 22:13.51 | markybob | NightKhaos: it's because testing dropped sha1 support for repos |
| 22:14.28 | NightKhaos | markybob: Thanks. |
| 22:14.56 | lordarkmemo | Hi, my debian machine is constantly crashing when i watch youtube videos or web pages with videos. Im using a lenovo laptope450, debian jessie 8.4 and iceweasel 38.8.0. When i enter youtube using google chrome i hear music but the video is not showing. Any help? |
| 22:16.05 | mtn | lordarkmemo: what is your video card and driver? |
| 22:16.26 | lordarkmemo | can you help me with the code? |
| 22:16.49 | lordarkmemo | mtn: can you help me with the code?, please |
| 22:17.04 | mtn | lordarkmemo: the debian wiki will tell you how to check your video card and driver |
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| 22:18.31 | lordarkmemo | mtn: server glx vendor string: SGI |
| 22:18.32 | lordarkmemo | client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI |
| 22:18.32 | lordarkmemo | OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. |
| 22:19.16 | mtn | lordarkmemo: so, you are running debian in vmware? |
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| 22:19.27 | lordarkmemo | mtn no |
| 22:19.30 | lordarkmemo | mtn: no |
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| 22:19.51 | mtn | lordarkmemo: can you install inxi? then run: inxi -Gx |
| 22:20.01 | lordarkmemo | mtn: ok |
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| 22:21.09 | lordarkmemo | mtn: Graphics: Card-1: Intel Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics bus-ID: 00:02.0 |
| 22:21.09 | lordarkmemo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.09 | lordarkmemo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.09 | lordarkmemo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.09 | lordarkmemo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:24.59 | lordarkmemo | mtn: paste.debian.net/683652 |
| 22:25.13 | lordarkmemo | mtn: i was kick |
| 22:25.20 | mtn | lordarkmemo: is this a laptop? |
| 22:25.40 | lordarkmemo | mtn: yes |
| 22:26.10 | mtn | lordarkmemo: you have hybrid graphics, as you can see. please look at the debian wiki for help |
| 22:26.11 | lordarkmemo | mtn: every time i go to youtube the laptop close session |
| 22:26.58 | mtn | lordarkmemo: you may need a newer kernel for the intel driver or an ati driver |
| 22:27.16 | lordarkmemo | mtn: oh |
| 22:27.39 | lordarkmemo | mtn: can you guide how, or where to find information. The wiki have a lot of options |
| 22:27.56 | mtn | lordarkmemo: google to the rescue: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
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| 22:28.43 | lordarkmemo | mtn: so, mtn, my driver is wrong? |
| 22:28.57 | lordarkmemo | mtn: because i can watch videos using vlc |
| 22:28.59 | mtn | lordarkmemo: read the wiki |
| 22:30.00 | lordarkmemo | mtn: ok, thank you for your guidance |
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| 22:31.59 | lordarkmemo | mtn: understanding the inxi output. I have (2) cards installed? or as you said an hybrid. A Radeon and Intel Broadwell? |
| 22:32.15 | mtn | lordarkmemo: correct |
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| 22:32.33 | tank743 | Hi everyone, I am having some issues with nprobe ... http://pastebin.com/vDEMg07Z can someone please help me? |
| 22:32.52 | lordarkmemo | mtn: so, when i go the youtube, there is a conflict between the cards? |
| 22:33.10 | mtn | lordarkmemo: why don't you read the wiki? |
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| 22:34.06 | tank743 | Hi everyone, I am having some issues with nprobe ... http://pastebin.com/vDEMg07Z can someone please help me? |
| 22:35.09 | mtn | tank743: please don't repost for at least 15 minutes |
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| 22:49.33 | t4nk274 | hi I need some help with nprobe |
| 22:49.42 | t4nk274 | I am getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/vDEMg07Z |
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| 22:50.37 | devster31 | what's the man page for systemd cgroups? |
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| 22:51.07 | markybob | t4nk274: sounds pretty obvious, riht? you don't have a license. so you need to buy one. |
| 22:51.29 | t4nk274 | markybob: not the issue... it is on demo mode.. if you read further it accepts x amount of flows |
| 22:51.50 | markybob | t4nk274: anyway it's totally off topic. ask them. |
| 22:51.51 | t4nk274 | markybob: as it states " NOTE: This is a DEMO version limited to 25000 flows export. " |
| 22:52.03 | t4nk274 | markybob: it is not even exporting a single flow |
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| 22:53.26 | jhutchins | t4nk274: Not a debian issue, it's an issue for the support people. If they don't support the demo mode, they're probably not worth considering. Many demos require a demo license (sometimes included in the download). |
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| 22:54.17 | t4nk274 | jhutchins: did some research and it seem it is not related to the license... it is related to the geoip library |
| 22:54.49 | t4nk274 | that's why i am requesting help here... already removed, purged and reinstalled the geoip libraries and still the same issue |
| 22:55.09 | jhutchins | t4nk274: I think I agree with you. Perhaps there is a database setup step that has been missed? |
| 22:55.09 | jmcnaught | devster31: what about systemd and cgroups? Not a manpage, but this is an okay overview of using cgroups with systemd: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/ControlGroupInterface/ |
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| 22:56.10 | jhutchins | t4nk274: I'm not sure I agree about geoip being the problem, it's pretty solid. |
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| 23:00.04 | devster31 | jmcnaught: I noticed on some ubuntu installs that sshd has a cgroup assigned, I was trying to replicate the behaviour on debian, the objective would be to keep sshd responsive even under load |
| 23:00.19 | t4nk274 | well fuck it... fuck debian , going back to centos |
| 23:00.47 | markybob | bye |
| 23:01.17 | RoyK | the-my-two-cents-os ;) |
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| 23:01.53 | quarters | hello. I was wondering how to use a bind mount to access a directory outside a chroot environment from within a chroot environment. I tried "mount -o bind /tmp/mnt/sda2/entware /opt" but it gives a "special device /tmp... does not exist" error message |
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| 23:05.16 | jmcnaught | devster31: do you have libpam-systemd installed? did you disable "UsePAM" in sshd_config? i'm leaving for a bit, but those are what i would check. |
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| 23:14.26 | garn32 | just put together a new computer with an ASUS Z170-a mother board but I'm getting no sound anyone have any ideas? |
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| 23:16.13 | mtn | garn32: Install and use pavucontrol. Check sound levels and devices in Output and Configuration tabs. |
| 23:17.26 | garn32 | mtn: I see the audio device and the sound levels are set to 100% |
| 23:17.45 | mtn | garn32: check both tabs as mentioned and check out ALL combinations |
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| 23:19.50 | garn32 | mtn: when I play music though rhythmbox I can see the bar moving under output devices but no audio |
| 23:19.59 | mtn | garn32: check both tabs as mentioned and check out ALL combinations |
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| 23:22.12 | garn32 | mtn: I have checked each of the drop down options but no audio |
| 23:22.31 | mtn | garn32: in the config tab? yes or no? |
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| 23:22.53 | garn32 | mtn: both the configuration tab and the output devices tab |
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| 23:23.15 | mtn | garn32: when you choose a device in the config tab, did you go to the output tab to check sound levels? |
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| 23:23.46 | garn32 | mtn: yes I did each time it was set to 80% |
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| 23:24.03 | mtn | garn32: and you did this for every device listed in the config tab? |
| 23:24.21 | garn32 | mtn: I believe that I did, but let me double check |
| 23:24.39 | jim | in sshd config, what is the TCPKeepAlive setting, and what made the default setting of yes be what the maintainer decided? |
| 23:25.07 | garn32 | mtn: yes I cycled through each device listed |
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| 23:27.03 | mtn | garn32: and you checked all your connections/cables, etc? |
| 23:27.31 | garn32 | mtn: yes I have tried re-seating all of the audio connection |
| 23:27.50 | mtn | garn32: does lspci -nn show your audio device? |
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| 23:28.51 | garn32 | mtn: yes I see my audio device '00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device a170 (rev 31)' |
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| 23:29.28 | mtn | garn32: it might possibly need a newer kernel to run properly |
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| 23:29.39 | jim | garn32, the pciid is missing from that (it should look like [abcd:1234]) |
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| 23:30.40 | garn32 | mtn: ahhh, that would make sense given how new the motherboard is, it is onboard audio so would it still have the pciid? |
| 23:31.02 | mtn | garn32: yes, if you used lspci -nn |
| 23:31.55 | garn32 | mtn: oops ran vv not nn '00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:a170] (rev 31)' |
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| 23:33.01 | jim | ok, judd says: <judd> [8086:a170] is 'Sunrise Point-H HD Audio' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:a170 |
| 23:33.06 | mtn | garn32: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=125107 |
| 23:33.23 | mtn | garn32: I would try a newer kernel |
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| 23:34.36 | garn32 | mtn: I'll give it ago, thanks for the help |
| 23:34.44 | garn32 | jim: thanks for the link |
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| 23:34.55 | mtn | garn32: welcome. good luck |
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| 23:36.53 | Mason963 | I have a problem with two packages (two versions of a lib) which should be independent, but are marked as Conflicts, so it is not possible to have them side-by-side, I'm using Ubuntu, but someone said they are debian packages: liballegro4-dev and liballegro5-dev (I got the second from a PPA) |
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| 23:37.18 | Mason963 | so my question: is debian the right place to report the problem, or am I in the wrong place? |
| 23:37.26 | mtn | !ubuntu |
| 23:37.26 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 23:38.18 | Mason963 | mtn: well I knew that at least, but aren't some packages in ubuntu used straight as-is from debian? |
| 23:38.38 | mtn | Mason963: either way, not supported in this channel |
| 23:38.53 | mtn | Mason963: you would have to ask them |
| 23:39.11 | Mason963 | mtn: do you mean that the ubuntu maintainer would get in touch with the debian maintainer if necessary? |
| 23:39.27 | mtn | Mason963: no idea. go ask the ubuntu channel how they do things |
| 23:40.02 | Mason963 | mtn: OKey dokey |
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| 23:51.21 | tarkem | hi all. i'm using testing on a thinkpad x250. since kernel 4.5 the keyboard backlight lights up at startup and when the screen wakes from "dim state". can't find much about that, has anyone noticed such a behaviour ? |
| 23:51.56 | Mason963 | mtn: according to an other user in #allegro, on a Debian system, liballegro4-dev lists liballegro5-dev as a conflict, and liballegro5-dev lists liballegro4-dev as a conflict |
| 23:51.56 | markybob | tarkem: ask the testing folks at #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
| 23:52.42 | tarkem | markybob: ok thanks |
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