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| 00:01.16 | marisn | ideas why openssh-client 1:7.2p2-5 fails to connect with "invalid elliptic curve value" but 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u1 works just fine? |
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| 00:04.47 | zykotick9 | marisn: i do NOT know the specifics of your issue... but i know i've seen notices about things being dropped from openssh... good luck. /me "knows" nothin' further... |
| 00:04.56 | _0xbadc0de | guys |
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| 00:05.11 | _0xbadc0de | my "Display configuration" only shows default |
| 00:05.16 | _0xbadc0de | whats wrong? |
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| 00:05.51 | Mazhive | cabundle.crt it presumes a signing request but it has mare then one key in the file ?? |
| 00:06.01 | Mazhive | mar-more |
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| 00:08.08 | markybob | marisn: wait so you're using stretch? |
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| 00:09.23 | marisn | markybob: yes |
| 00:09.46 | markybob | marisn: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing/sid support per /topic |
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| 00:10.10 | markybob | marisn: we don't know what those crazy people do or how their packages are broken |
| 00:10.28 | zykotick9 | lol <- really! |
| 00:10.29 | SVR4 | I found that if you're involved with Debian heavily, being on OFTC is a good idea. |
| 00:10.39 | marisn | markybob: thanks! I have problems with following all those Debian names (Gentoo user) |
| 00:11.32 | zykotick9 | !greenhouse |
| 00:11.32 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. See also <diminishing returns on bogomips>. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
| 00:12.17 | marisn | zykotick9: lack of system-d is enough to keep me on Gentoo ;) |
| 00:12.30 | SVR4 | dpkg tell marisn about diminishing returns on bogomips |
| 00:12.34 | zykotick9 | marisn: i _was_ a gentoo use for a long time (with 450mhz system, where gnome would take a week to compile) so i feel it's ok to laugh at gentoo now ;) |
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| 00:14.49 | SVR4 | Gentoo gives me 2% faster startup for resource heavy applications such as Firefox or Chromium |
| 00:15.09 | markybob | so you have to blink once. yay |
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| 00:15.54 | SVR4 | I was being sarcastic |
| 00:15.59 | Mazhive | Invalid command 'SSLStaplingCache', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
| 00:16.00 | Mazhive | Action 'configtest' failed. |
| 00:16.03 | Mazhive | why ?? |
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| 00:17.35 | markybob | Mazhive: no that's spelled correctly. note the paste i gave you. it's actually outside the <VirtualHost *:443> |
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| 00:18.33 | markybob | Mazhive: then "SSLUseStapling on" is insidee |
| 00:18.35 | markybob | inside* |
| 00:18.41 | Mazhive | yes but stapling on is half way |
| 00:19.24 | markybob | Mazhive: plus this is probably best asked in #httpd which is the apache support channel |
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| 00:19.53 | Mazhive | ah oke.. will visit them ...thanx. :) |
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| 00:23.15 | BrutusUnix | How do I get snd_hda_intel module to load on boot? I have it in: /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf but with a new boot lsmod doesn't show it |
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| 00:25.42 | zykotick9 | BrutusUnix: ahhh, i start with a very minimalist install... and i still have that autoloaded from a netinst... <- no suggestions on your issue, just a comment... |
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| 00:26.44 | BrutusUnix | mmm |
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| 00:29.47 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: any clues from "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" after you boot? Was that module part of your stock install, or did you add it somehow? |
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| 00:33.12 | BrutusUnix | I want to add it |
| 00:33.16 | BrutusUnix | for sound |
| 00:33.31 | jim | hi... looking to help someone with this video: [1002:9874], could it be the driver name is amdgpu? |
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| 00:34.10 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: what I mean is, did you install something special to get that module? I'm looking for more info on what you've tried so far |
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| 00:35.30 | BrutusUnix | ok so - $ cat /proc/asound/cards | wc -l |
| 00:35.39 | BrutusUnix | gives 2 (one card) |
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| 00:36.28 | BrutusUnix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.35 | BrutusUnix | then count command |
| 00:36.50 | BrutusUnix | I get 3 cards not just one |
| 00:37.01 | BrutusUnix | HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH |
| 00:37.07 | BrutusUnix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.14 | BrutusUnix | I want them preloaded on boot |
| 00:37.23 | markybob | jim: yeah looks like it. what kernel version are you using? |
| 00:37.31 | BrutusUnix | trying to get pulseaudio to work |
| 00:37.40 | BrutusUnix | (Final resoultion) |
| 00:37.44 | jmcnaught | jim: i'm not sure. that card could be too new for jessie. "man radeon" lists the cards supported by radeon. i'm not sure if amdgpu is available in jessie |
| 00:38.09 | markybob | jim: from what i see you need at least 4.2. jessie-backports has 4.5 |
| 00:38.12 | jim | ok |
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| 00:38.26 | BrutusUnix | (also will need to add USB connector also |
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| 00:38.49 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: the card you're trying to get working, is it a PCI or USB device? |
| 00:39.41 | BrutusUnix | I PCI is for just laptop but looking to have USB (IF head set is pluged in) |
| 00:40.36 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: could you please make a paste of the output for "lspci -nn | grep -i audio" and put it on http://paste.debian.net/ ? Also have you been using pavucontrol? |
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| 00:40.58 | JohnnyL | what would cause 'print0' | xargs -0 to stop processing spaces and other strange characters? I had this script working fine an hour ago. |
| 00:41.20 | BrutusUnix | one second... yes I have pavucontrol installed |
| 00:41.21 | jim | jmcnaught, looks like he has 3.16 and jessie |
| 00:41.39 | markybob | jim: to backports you/he go |
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| 00:42.35 | BrutusUnix | jmcnaught -> http://paste.debian.net/683146/ |
| 00:42.59 | BrutusUnix | jessie is installed |
| 00:43.20 | jmcnaught | jim: this friend you're helping was in here earlier and ended up offending the people trying to help him :/ Anyways a backports kernel might help him. As far as I can tell xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu is only available in stretch and sid though |
| 00:43.53 | JohnnyL | what is wrong with this script? http://pastebin.com/fV4NVhCr |
| 00:44.05 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: thanks! |
| 00:44.15 | jmcnaught | judd: pciid 8086:8c20 |
| 00:44.16 | judd | [8086:8c20] is '8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:8c20 |
| 00:44.57 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: so according to the judd bot this *should* be supported on jessie. I'm assuming that the other one is the HDMI output of the GPU |
| 00:44.59 | SpaceAce | is there a good utility for managing ssh tunnels? |
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| 00:45.15 | BrutusUnix | ssh with -L |
| 00:45.39 | BrutusUnix | jmcnaught -> http://paste.debian.net/683147/ with cards output |
| 00:45.55 | jim | jmcnaught, which friend? |
| 00:46.19 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: does "aplay -l" list the card? what about "pacmd list-cards"? |
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| 00:47.30 | jmcnaught | jim: _0xbadc0de (i'm on ##linux too) but it's decent of you to go the extra mile trying to help them :) |
| 00:47.32 | BrutusUnix | jmanaught..... Everything does work fine but I need to run sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel (first I want it ran on boot) |
| 00:47.48 | markybob | ,checkbackport xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu |
| 00:47.49 | judd | Backporting package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, jessie-backports. |
| 00:47.50 | BrutusUnix | only problem solving I have is figure out how to add my usb head set |
| 00:47.59 | markybob | might work |
| 00:48.12 | _0xbadc0de | jmcnaught, cool |
| 00:49.01 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: oh. does pavucontrol show the USB headset? |
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| 00:50.23 | jim | so he should backport the driver |
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| 00:50.29 | BrutusUnix | no it's not here |
| 00:50.50 | markybob | i'd do jessie-backport kernel. if that doesn't do the trick, sure, try. |
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| 00:51.18 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: any clues in dmesg output right after plugging it in? As for the loading modules at boot issue, were there any clues in "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" ? |
| 00:51.24 | markybob | using ssb for the driver (if that wasn't clear) |
| 00:52.25 | BrutusUnix | jmcnaught.... found problem in message log: snd-usb-audio: probe of 1-1:1.0 failed with error -5 |
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| 00:54.00 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: has this USB headset worked before? Are you plugging directly into computer, or into a hub? Tried a different port? |
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| 00:54.16 | BrutusUnix | full message output: http://paste.debian.net/683150/ |
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| 00:54.42 | BrutusUnix | I have two of them both say the samething |
| 00:54.52 | BrutusUnix | for error |
| 00:55.07 | BrutusUnix | off to google for a min |
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| 00:55.34 | _0xbadc0de | I have it working you fucking noobs |
| 00:55.50 | _0xbadc0de | seriously what a fucking bunch of "support team" you are |
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| 00:56.30 | markybob | pretty sure i solved all your problems |
| 00:56.43 | _0xbadc0de | I am pretty sure you can go fuck yourself |
| 00:56.43 | markybob | but you can be a dick elsewhere |
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| 00:57.24 | jmcnaught | _0xbadc0de: pretty sure everyone here was happy to help until you got offensive. anyways i guess you won't be needing our help anymore. |
| 00:57.24 | BrutusUnix | jmcnaught.... I thinnk some card id's are big mapped as the same id Going to try changing the id's |
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| 00:59.58 | mdlpe | hi best way to crypt a tar archive multiplateform linux/osX/win. tar+7z ? |
| 01:00.08 | _0xbadc0de | I am just amased... why the fuck nobody thought it would be a good idea to use AMD's support site and download the approppriate driver |
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| 01:00.35 | jmcnaught | !next |
| 01:00.35 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 01:01.04 | jmcnaught | i guess they'll figure out why not the hard way after their next kernel upgraed |
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| 01:02.03 | jmcnaught | mdlpe: you can encrypt with gnupg which is available on all major platforms |
| 01:02.21 | Javabean | i hate upgrading the kernel. every time i upgrade the kernel, i have to dust out the computer's tower |
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| 01:04.12 | mdlpe | jmcnaught, but with gnupg I need the keys and internet for all my computers ? |
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| 01:04.48 | markybob | jmcnaught: yeah i won't be helping when that happens |
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| 01:09.22 | jmcnaught | mdlpe: gnupg can also do symmetric encryption (for example with a passphrase) https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x110.html |
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| 01:15.38 | mdlpe | jmcnaught, thanks I'll try it tomorow and check to find a gnupg for windows and mac. My internet go down to often now |
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| 01:16.57 | BrutusUnix | jmcnaught --- yea changing card id's worked.... simple problem |
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| 01:22.43 | wsky | what if memtest86+ hangs @ 21%? |
| 01:22.52 | wsky | but hte '+' still blinks |
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| 01:28.18 | dvs | wsky, I think blinking could be a text attribute |
| 01:28.44 | wsky | so the program might be indeed frozen? |
| 01:28.54 | dvs | could be |
| 01:28.58 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: nice! |
| 01:29.12 | wsky | dvs: could it be because bad memory? |
| 01:29.35 | dvs | cant be sure |
| 01:29.42 | markybob | wsky: how much ram do you have? |
| 01:29.54 | wsky | 8G |
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| 01:29.56 | markybob | wsky: how long have you waited? |
| 01:30.02 | wsky | few minutes |
| 01:30.07 | markybob | wsky: wait a lot longer |
| 01:30.15 | wsky | ok, i'll leave it over a night |
| 01:30.30 | wsky | i'm struggling with a hibernation issue here |
| 01:30.47 | wsky | if the ram is filled the hibernation does not accour |
| 01:31.06 | BrutusUnix | also made a custom /etc/init.d/script for loading audio files |
| 01:31.06 | wsky | the ystem freezes and the hibernation is not being properly executed |
| 01:31.10 | BrutusUnix | audio modules |
| 01:31.19 | markybob | yeah i know. i think you're the person i said swap needs 2x ram to be realiable |
| 01:31.46 | wsky | well it just needs to be at least as large as the memory (and completly empty) |
| 01:32.17 | wsky | it's 10G here and it was always more than enough on the previous machine |
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| 01:33.27 | jmcnaught | BrutusUnix: cool. i would have assume that systemd-modules-load would work for that, but i never got to see its status or log messages from your system. anyways i'm glad you figured it out |
| 01:34.34 | wsky | i'm running 'memtester' at the moment |
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| 01:37.33 | zykotick9 | markybob: i'd just like to say... hibernate has thus far worked fine (since upgrading my ram and NOT my swap) with 8GB ram and a 5GB swap... /me is NOT using all his ram when he hibernates... |
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| 01:38.37 | markybob | zykotick9: that's the big difference. he used stress to fill his ram to 80% and then it failed. of course it failed. |
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| 01:38.55 | zykotick9 | markybob: i'd ask... why? ;) |
| 01:39.28 | markybob | i don't know why he did that. ask him. |
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| 01:40.00 | zykotick9 | thinks it seems rather "how to create a problem"... |
| 01:41.21 | markybob | when you fill you ram of 10G to 80% and you have 8G swap...yeah, sorry. |
| 01:43.46 | dvs | for hibernate? |
| 01:43.58 | markybob | dvs: right |
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| 01:44.41 | dvs | yeah, that ain't gonna work. |
| 01:44.54 | markybob | dvs: that's what i've been saying for 5 hours but he won't listen |
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| 01:46.38 | wsky | i got 8G RAM and 10G swap |
| 01:46.43 | wsky | and it always worked |
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| 01:47.35 | jmcnaught | i don't hibernate very often, and my RAM is hardly ever close to full, but i wonder is there no sanity check for "will it fit?" that would error out? |
| 01:47.59 | markybob | hmm...i don't know of one. that'd be nice |
| 01:50.05 | wsky | it puts PM: Hibernation mode set to 'platform' into /var/log/debug and then it freezes |
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| 01:51.16 | wsky | however the hdd led stil blinks from time to time |
| 01:51.39 | wsky | but not often enough for me to suspect it's dumping the image to the disk |
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| 01:53.54 | boyblunder | I'm trying to download the torrents from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.4.0-live+nonfree/amd64/bt-hybrid/, and I'm getting tracker errors that the torrents aren't found |
| 01:54.04 | boyblunder | any help? |
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| 01:55.10 | markybob | boyblunder: i get the same error but it works with dht |
| 01:55.17 | zykotick9 | boyblunder: <sidenote> if you have uefi, the live media won't install... /me has no idea about torrent issues, and thinks the netinst _is_ debian's installer... |
| 01:56.51 | boyblunder | thanks - what's a good DE for a thinkpad x220? |
| 01:57.02 | boyblunder | 12" screen, i5 CPU |
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| 01:57.08 | markybob | boyblunder: well let's backtrack. do you have uefi? can you do http download? |
| 01:57.16 | boyblunder | yeah http works fine |
| 01:57.21 | boyblunder | but I don't want to strain the servers |
| 01:57.24 | boyblunder | and it takes forever |
| 01:57.27 | markybob | boyblunder: then use this http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 01:57.46 | markybob | boyblunder: well if you have a stupid torrent client that can't figure out dht that's all you can do |
| 01:58.17 | markybob | boyblunder: "best de" has no meaning. it's whatever you like. i personally use xfce |
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| 01:59.10 | zykotick9 | xfce sucks !start-de-war ;) |
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| 02:02.22 | awwal | acpi -V ---> "Thermal 0: ok, 51.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at temperature 127.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 1 switches to mode hot at temperature 127.0 degrees C" . 127.0 degrees C are limits set by hardware/manufacturer or what? |
| 02:03.45 | markybob | awwal: yes. btw, do you realize how fucking hot that is? it's 260F |
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| 02:04.19 | awwal | markybob, yeah, so 127 C is so carzy fucking hot, xD |
| 02:05.05 | zykotick9 | awwal: i actually don't see a "switches to mode hot" and only see "switches to mode critical" at 99 & 127 degrees C <- i've replaced my default bios with libreboot... |
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| 02:05.28 | markybob | my critical is 84 |
| 02:05.29 | BlenderPro | I have a complain about systemd in debian is heavy and demands a lot of explaining is debian estill viable |
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| 02:05.56 | awwal | my machine temps (3 cores) are all the time between 40 and 60 ºC. , so I guess all fine here? |
| 02:05.59 | markybob | BlenderPro: go to #debian-offtopic for systemd rants. |
| 02:06.09 | markybob | awwal: you're fine |
| 02:06.39 | awwal | zykotick9, I wish I can try libreboot but I have no an extra machine available right now ... |
| 02:06.46 | awwal | markybob, I hope so |
| 02:07.44 | markybob | awwal: i'm at 65.5 sitting here doing nothing. you're okay :) |
| 02:07.58 | zykotick9 | awwal: i'd _guess_ with 3 cores, that machine probably isn't supported by libreboot ;) |
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| 02:08.40 | zykotick9 | markybob: i'm sittin' at 35 and 37... also doin' nothin'. |
| 02:08.59 | markybob | zykotick9: i assume desktop? |
| 02:09.15 | zykotick9 | markybob: nope, laptop, r400 lenovo... |
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| 02:09.29 | markybob | zykotick9: oh. i have a shit dell latidude |
| 02:09.31 | awwal | markybob, if no flash/html5 audio/video contents no more then 50 here. so sounds all fine |
| 02:09.50 | markybob | zykotick9: in my defense i didn't buy it :P |
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| 02:10.10 | dvs | markybob, sure, sure |
| 02:10.17 | zykotick9 | markybob: in my defense, i worked for dell for a time - but didn't "like" it |
| 02:10.40 | k_sze[work] | How can I *try* to mount a volume defined in autofs, and get a success or error exit code (e.g. if the volume is an NFS volume and it's offline)? |
| 02:10.59 | markybob | zykotick9: then i hate you. i worked for a large company a few years back that was dell only and we had quite a few just start smoking and almost catch fire. wtf |
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| 02:11.33 | markybob | zykotick9: the plastic case melted |
| 02:12.09 | zykotick9 | saw Mr. Dell once... he kinda wishes he'd have caught fire <- /me doesn't really, burning alive is too extreme |
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| 02:12.19 | awwal | when I cook fish I put my oven at 250F. seems that I can use my lenovo laptop for cook |
| 02:12.25 | dax | we had a few hundred optiplex 745 go kaput because dell used craptacular capacitors in them. after they already got sued for doing that in earlier models |
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| 02:13.41 | markybob | dax: i didn't realize they got sued. once the support team didn't believe me (even though we had an enterprise account and had to ship them back anyway) and asked me to send them pictures before approving the switch |
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| 02:14.04 | markybob | wtf would i lie about a computer smoking and almost catching fire? seriously |
| 02:14.15 | markybob | but i guess we're getting offtopic. sorry. |
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| 02:15.13 | awwal | zykotick9, libreboot only supports machines higher then 3 core or what you meant? |
| 02:16.15 | zykotick9 | awwal: libreboot doesn't support many 2+ core machines, only some server boards with 4 cores... <- it's a short list for 3+ core machines, let's just say that... |
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| 02:17.30 | zykotick9 | awwal: coreboot supports a much larger pool of systems. |
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| 02:18.50 | BlenderPro | the linux kernel y other gnu software are heavier then before, and I reallly prefer the boot process of all times systemv and openrc |
| 02:19.37 | awwal | zykotick9, ok, got it |
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| 02:21.51 | lunarmage | does Jessie run systemd? |
| 02:21.59 | lunarmage | by default, I mean |
| 02:22.43 | BlenderPro | i understand all major linuxes use systemd |
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| 02:23.15 | wymillerlinux | i think so, since the big debian init 'war' |
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| 02:23.27 | lunarmage | BlenderPro: Wheezy still ran openrc, I'm asking before spending my time downloading |
| 02:23.47 | zykotick9 | wymillerlinux: stepped on the systemd landmind.. |
| 02:23.55 | lunarmage | though I should mention I'm running raspbian and there isn't a #raspbian |
| 02:23.59 | zykotick9 | s/landmind/landmine/ |
| 02:24.12 | philuk86 | systemd runs you |
| 02:24.18 | zykotick9 | !raspbian |
| 02:24.19 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 02:24.28 | zykotick9 | ^ lunarmage |
| 02:24.41 | lunarmage | huh, for some reason it didn't let me join at first |
| 02:24.53 | lunarmage | but reconnecting o the bouncer worked |
| 02:24.55 | lunarmage | thanks anyway |
| 02:25.49 | wymillerlinux | lunarmage: same, rpi 3, it does run systemd |
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| 02:26.07 | lunarmage | wymillerlinux: oh, thanks |
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| 02:26.38 | wymillerlinux | lunarmage: no problem |
| 02:29.59 | wymillerlinux | hopefully everyone read the bot message on raspbian |
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| 02:45.36 | BlenderPro | anybody here knows if debian is more secure then windows 7 |
| 02:45.41 | BlenderPro | or can be more secure |
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| 02:47.58 | avis- | BlenderPro, windows 7 is very insecure |
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| 02:48.09 | avis- | debian definitely is more secure |
| 02:48.24 | TacoGS | sounds subjective |
| 02:48.28 | avis- | debian further is more secure than many other open source distros |
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| 02:48.46 | TacoGS | A bad user on any system can make it insecure, and humans are the number one security risk |
| 02:49.26 | Mazhive | i think avis means when installed freshly |
| 02:49.48 | TacoGS | fresh installs are generally not the measure of good security |
| 02:50.11 | BlenderPro | avis-, I reconfigured windows 7 to disable all telemetry and also on the browser I just need a firewall haven't found a good one but at lest my os runs faster but does debian comes with a good firewall that blocks outgoing connections too or is that something set by iptables alone |
| 02:51.32 | BlenderPro | and does debian comes with telemetry for the os |
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| 02:52.25 | jml2 | BlenderPro, ping |
| 02:52.53 | jml2 | BlenderPro, debian has been using spyware for the 16 years i've been using it |
| 02:53.01 | jml2 | BlenderPro, and I love it |
| 02:53.41 | BlenderPro | does it display ads like windows 10 |
| 02:53.47 | BlenderPro | does it comes with a advertising id |
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| 02:54.45 | jml2 | !ops BlenderPro trolling |
| 02:54.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: jml2 complains about: BlenderPro trolling |
| 02:55.02 | jml2 | ignores Bl |
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| 02:55.20 | avis- | BlenderPro, yes ufw and gufw are in the repos |
| 02:55.26 | pingfloyd | TacoGS: "bad user" is such a non sequitur |
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| 02:56.20 | TacoGS | if you say so |
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| 03:01.52 | awwal | BlenderPro, have you checked the Heimys link ? |
| 03:02.43 | awwal | debian-es |
| 03:03.57 | awwal | if you are a debian user start from here https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
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| 03:26.42 | T4ng10r | hi |
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| 03:27.03 | T4ng10r | how can I use thunderbird from sid or experimental version? |
| 03:27.16 | T4ng10r | withouth changing whole debian to sid or experimental release |
| 03:27.22 | dax | !ssb |
| 03:27.22 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 03:28.21 | T4ng10r | how much better this solution is from downloading TB from www page? |
| 03:28.51 | T4ng10r | in second - I have working TB 45, but no version control |
| 03:29.36 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: it's definitely not safe to install packages from testing/unstable/experimental on a debian stable system |
| 03:29.56 | T4ng10r | good thinking |
| 03:31.29 | T4ng10r | yet - TB v 45 is offically avaiable |
| 03:31.45 | T4ng10r | debian stable is 38, testing 38 |
| 03:31.59 | T4ng10r | is newer version so much unstable? |
| 03:32.36 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: if 45 is in experimental it's being worked on, but the maintainers think there could still be issues with it |
| 03:33.09 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: are you using Jessie? |
| 03:33.19 | T4ng10r | currently - stretch |
| 03:33.22 | T4ng10r | so testing |
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| 03:34.01 | T4ng10r | i'm not ready to move to sid |
| 03:34.31 | abrotman | T4ng10r: did you check mozilla.debian.net? |
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| 03:35.54 | T4ng10r | yes, no new information |
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| 03:37.18 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: i would wait for it to hit unstable, and then install it from there. Also maybe check dpkg's <ssm> or <tum> factoids |
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| 03:38.07 | T4ng10r | on one hand I'm expecting some cool new features in TB 45 |
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| 03:38.32 | T4ng10r | on the other - I can't find any advanced, custom configuratble mail client |
| 03:38.54 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: when it reaches unstable if there are no serious bugs it will migrate to strech about a week later |
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| 03:39.29 | T4ng10r | ok |
| 03:39.46 | T4ng10r | other question |
| 03:39.51 | T4ng10r | I've installed Chrome |
| 03:40.03 | T4ng10r | and it hijack everything as default browser |
| 03:40.56 | T4ng10r | In icedove/TB I found it reference to x-www-browser - to I changed all www-browser alternatives (www-browser, x-www-browser, gnome-www-browser) to use IceWeasel |
| 03:41.09 | T4ng10r | still launches links in Chrome |
| 03:41.18 | T4ng10r | where can I find this configuration? |
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| 03:41.50 | sexytime | question. anyone know how to prevent certain users from ever logging into root? |
| 03:42.05 | sexytime | not with su, sudo or even if they know the password |
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| 03:43.18 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: did you do "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" ? |
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| 03:46.39 | jmcnaught | sexytime: not being in sudoers or knowing the root password is not enough? |
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| 03:47.05 | markybob | sexytime: if they know the root password they're getting in |
| 03:47.21 | sexytime | its not really for "people" i'm trying to isolate an application |
| 03:47.44 | sexytime | or at least, if someone gains shell access through that application on an off chance. i dont want them getting into root |
| 03:48.06 | T4ng10r | yes |
| 03:48.21 | sexytime | jmcnaught, what are some ways to even get into root? i know of sudo and su only. are there any bases i need to cover ? |
| 03:48.37 | T4ng10r | the same problem ie. is in NixNote, which doesn't have any preferenes refering to www |
| 03:51.04 | markybob | sexytime: that question makes no sense. there's a million ways. kernel security. apache security. samba. |
| 03:51.23 | markybob | sexytime: hell dictionary attacks on ssh |
| 03:51.56 | sexytime | seems more a security question i see |
| 03:52.14 | markybob | sexytime: are you using jessie? |
| 03:52.21 | sexytime | yes mar |
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| 03:52.22 | sexytime | markybob, |
| 03:52.27 | jmcnaught | sexytime: systemd.exec(5) documents a SecureBits= directive that can include noroot. Another approach could be using containers with LXC or systemd-nspawn |
| 03:52.54 | markybob | sexytime: default jessie is pretty great with security. if they don't have root (su) or sudo you should be good |
| 03:53.05 | sexytime | thanks |
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| 03:54.06 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: there are a few ways the default browser is set. Your DE might have a menu for it in its settings/config application. There's also the $BROWSER environment variable used by "sensible-browser" |
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| 04:01.53 | T4ng10r | i'm using i3 |
| 04:02.06 | T4ng10r | and i removed all refernces to xfce |
| 04:02.20 | T4ng10r | so i don't know where else those settings could be stored |
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| 04:02.50 | wsky | so i've found this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47931 |
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| 04:05.24 | wsky | it wasn't just me, it seems just that hibernation can be randomly broken on different setups |
| 04:05.52 | markybob | "Second, the reason is that the image size automatically computed by the kernel is too large to fit into memory which is related to the way highmem is handled by the hibernate core" |
| 04:05.58 | markybob | so what i've said all along |
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| 04:07.09 | wsky | well it worked flawlessly on the machine i cloned this drive from |
| 04:07.20 | wsky | which also was a 8GB RAM setup |
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| 04:08.09 | markybob | wsky: you can either listen to answers or not. but spending several hours ignoring responses by multiple people is just ridiculous |
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| 04:08.26 | wsky | what is your problem? |
| 04:08.45 | wsky | i'm not ignporing any answers i get |
| 04:08.48 | markybob | wsky: you're wasting everyone's time because you refuse to listen. you're right. so why ask? |
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| 04:09.20 | wsky | all you were saying is that i have to have twice ram swap partition to make it worse |
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| 04:09.25 | wsky | and this is false |
| 04:09.26 | BlenderPro | hi |
| 04:09.40 | wsky | to make it work* |
| 04:09.44 | wsky | hi |
| 04:10.11 | markybob | wsky: sure. so we all gave you our advice. now it's up to you. take it or don't. asking over and over again over man hours does nothing. |
| 04:10.23 | markybob | many* |
| 04:10.31 | wsky | markybob: it's a public channel and i'm not talking only to you |
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| 04:10.54 | markybob | and the channel policy does say not to ask over and over again |
| 04:11.02 | wsky | you're not the only one here and i'm hoping for other people to get involved, hopefully solve the problem |
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| 04:11.15 | jmcnaught | T4ng10r: what does 'xdg-settings get default-web-browser' say? |
| 04:11.17 | wsky | markybob: i asked twice |
| 04:11.24 | markybob | ha |
| 04:11.25 | wsky | markybob: is that a problem already? |
| 04:11.40 | jmcnaught | i think it's time to let it go... |
| 04:12.28 | awwal | T4ng10r, you have to set iceweasel as default (manual) for www-browser, x-www-browser and gnome-www-browser |
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| 04:20.14 | T4ng10r | in www-browser (and others) - yes I needed to change default browser, and I've changed it |
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| 04:21.11 | T4ng10r | got to got |
| 04:21.16 | T4ng10r | thank you for support |
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| 04:53.48 | Gao | hello eveybody! |
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| 04:55.28 | Gao | I got a problem, I am using debian 8.4, when I execute this command: sudo apt-get update, I get a error: hash sum mismatch |
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| 04:56.02 | Gao | I try many ways I can find by google, but no one worked |
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| 05:00.12 | civillian | Gao: it probably means the mirror you're using isn't fully up-to-date, try another mirror |
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| 05:02.12 | Gao | @civillian, thank you! My main mirror is mirrors.163.com in China, security mirror is security.debian.org, I will try it. |
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| 05:02.34 | Gao | Maybe this is the problem |
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| 06:07.34 | RippyDippy | Hey guys. I am writing a script to copy a bunch of files from across my system into one git repo. Is there a clean way to do this |
| 06:07.54 | RippyDippy | without 20 odd 'cp /foo /bar/' |
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| 06:09.53 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: is there some sort of pattern that is unique about these files? |
| 06:11.13 | RippyDippy | jmcnaught: Other than them all going to the same directory, not really. |
| 06:11.26 | RippyDippy | They are a collection of dotfiles and config files from across my machine |
| 06:12.23 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: not really a way to tell the computer to only move specific files unless you have a way to identify the desired files to the computer |
| 06:12.53 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: if you only have to do it once, just do it manually. if you have to repeat this on several systems, write a script that does it |
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| 06:17.35 | RippyDippy | jmcnaught: yeah Im writing a script, but I dont script often enough. I had a C solution in my head, but I think repetative cp's might be the only solution |
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| 06:19.13 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: if it's something you can express with the find command you could use that, but if it's a bunch of arbitrary files cherrypicked from across your system i don't really see a way |
| 06:19.22 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: do you have to do this for multiple systems? |
| 06:19.40 | RippyDippy | jmcnaught: Luckily no |
| 06:19.50 | MaBunny | guys where do i ask Gnome desktop specific issues?? i mean which chan?? |
| 06:20.12 | RippyDippy | MaBunny: Don't quote me on this, but have you tried #gnome? |
| 06:20.23 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: well if you don't think you'll need to repeat this process a script might not be worth it |
| 06:20.24 | MaBunny | ok thnx |
| 06:20.39 | jml2 | #smokes |
| 06:20.51 | RippyDippy | jmcnaught: I do need to repeat this task weekly though. |
| 06:20.54 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: you can ask about Gnome in here, but often the dedicated channel for something will have better answers |
| 06:21.52 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: is this an XY problem? What's the real problem you're trying to solve? |
| 06:22.32 | wsky | markybob: jmcnaught so it was the kernel, 4.2.8 flawlessly hibernates finally, took me whole night ot figure this out |
| 06:23.12 | RippyDippy | jmcnaught: Well I am about to post many of my config/dotfiles to github. And I want a script I can run to copy/update my files into one directory that I can then just push |
| 06:23.13 | jmcnaught | wsky: glad you made some progress. how did you end up with a 4.2.8 kernel? |
| 06:23.21 | wsky | jmcnaught: kernel.org |
| 06:23.27 | RippyDippy | rather than just copying them all one at a time |
| 06:23.39 | wsky | jmcnaught: i had a backported 4.2 before when it was working |
| 06:23.48 | jmcnaught | wsky: why not use the kernel from jessie-backports? |
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| 06:23.52 | MaBunny | no...its something i did better ask there :) |
| 06:23.57 | wsky | jmcnaught: but it was unavailable with debian repositories anymore |
| 06:24.08 | wsky | jmcnaught: because there is no 4.2 in the backports anymore |
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| 06:24.18 | wsky | jmcnaught: and i'm unaware of any rollbacks available |
| 06:24.27 | jml2 | RippyDippy, you can send a list file to tar or i think even rsync |
| 06:24.28 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: Do you know about GNU stow? |
| 06:24.46 | jml2 | RippyDippy, then pass that file to a git-upload binary |
| 06:25.00 | jml2 | RippyDippy, (the tarfile) |
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| 06:25.54 | RippyDippy | SO MANY OPTIONS |
| 06:26.01 | RippyDippy | jmcnaught: Tell me more about stow |
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| 06:26.26 | RippyDippy | jml2: ?? So... pass the file names in a csv to rysnc? |
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| 06:27.46 | jelly | RippyDippy: look at etckeeper, maybe? |
| 06:27.54 | jelly | ,i etckeeper |
| 06:27.55 | judd | Package etckeeper (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: store /etc in git, mercurial, bzr or darcs. Version: 1.15; Size: 33.9k; Installed: 206k; Homepage: http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/etckeeper/ |
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| 06:28.02 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: http://brandon.invergo.net/news/2012-05-26-using-gnu-stow-to-manage-your-dotfiles.html and then git init the stow directory |
| 06:28.03 | jml2 | RippyDippy, --files-from= |
| 06:28.10 | jml2 | RippyDippy, for tar it's something else |
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| 06:28.34 | jml2 | RippyDippy, for tar it's the same but uses a space (or -T ) |
| 06:29.15 | jml2 | RippyDippy, tar has a -u for update |
| 06:29.54 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: rsync with includes and excludes could work too, and etckeeper is great for /etc |
| 06:29.57 | jml2 | (or --update , -u, u ... could be used without the option as itis an action) |
| 06:29.58 | RippyDippy | Ok. Thats a lot of info. Research time. Thanks guys! |
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| 06:32.29 | jmcnaught | wsky: would linux 4.5 not work for your system? |
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| 06:32.42 | wsky | jmcnaught: i tired 4.5, didn't work |
| 06:32.46 | wsky | tried* |
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| 07:18.53 | RippyDippy | Alright, so I tried a few different options |
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| 07:19.56 | RippyDippy | I ended up writing a short 3 line script, that loops through a txt file where I store all the files/directory names, and copies each to my destination file |
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| 07:20.16 | RippyDippy | rsync and stow would have worked, but this solution seemed very light weight and simple |
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| 07:36.47 | MaBunny | hey guys what display manager does debian 8.4 ship with it??? |
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| 07:42.55 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: https://wiki.debian.org/DisplayManager or "aptitude search ~Px-display-manager" to see a list. |
| 07:43.21 | MaBunny | ok |
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| 07:44.55 | MaBunny | it gives a invalid command option message |
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| 07:47.20 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: check for typos? |
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| 07:47.53 | MaBunny | idk |
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| 07:48.08 | MaBunny | aptitude search -P -x -display-manager |
| 07:48.17 | MaBunny | i pressed tht too |
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| 07:49.01 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: that's not the command, it was "aptitude search ~Px-window-manager" the character before P is a tilde, and you added spaces |
| 07:49.17 | MaBunny | oh sorry |
| 07:49.48 | MaBunny | but which one does my Debian hav??? |
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| 07:50.16 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: the long form is aptitude search '?provides(x-display-manager)', x-display manager is a virtual package, this command show packages that provide the virtual package |
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| 07:50.58 | MaBunny | no...i dont want a list...i want to kno which one my desktop has...for the issue i hav with gnome |
| 07:51.08 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: the one with an "i" in the first column instead of a 'p' |
| 07:51.13 | MaBunny | it is for tht issue im asking you guys :) |
| 07:51.43 | MaBunny | wait |
| 07:52.29 | RippyDippy | is there a way to make a directory if one doesnt already exists with CP, much like any text editor creates if it cant find a preexisting file to edit |
| 07:52.48 | MaBunny | well...is it small i or 'I'??? |
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| 07:54.35 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: why, where do you see a mix of 'i' and 'I'? |
| 07:54.56 | MaBunny | idk...im a noob :( |
| 07:55.41 | MaBunny | well...i typed "aptitude search ~ix-display-manager" |
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| 07:56.52 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: did you try the command i gave you? in the results at least one line will start with an 'i' to indicated it is installed |
| 07:57.57 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: if you want to search for "provides x-display-manager and is installed' the expression would be ~i ~Px-window-manager. Search term reference: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/aptitude/ch02s04s05.en.html |
| 07:58.38 | MaBunny | yeah...its i on gdm3 |
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| 07:58.45 | MaBunny | really fucking of me |
| 07:58.55 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: pardon? |
| 07:59.24 | MaBunny | no...i didnt understand you earlier |
| 07:59.40 | MaBunny | i should hav...instead of wasting time |
| 08:00.01 | MaBunny | ok...thnx jmcnaught for your time :) |
| 08:00.03 | jmcnaught | RippyDippy: do you mean an empty directory? "cp -r" creates directories |
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| 08:03.39 | GRiZL0C | hey guys i bought 2 raspberrypi 3B both with same wireless keyboard mouse combo model mk220 its really compact i highly recommend the Logitech MK220 for your Pi. |
| 08:04.08 | RippyDippy | jmcnaught: Got it |
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| 08:09.01 | Aliekezhi | hi, heard about a debian version for this project ? https://sourceforge.net/projects/lightfirefox |
| 08:09.20 | Aliekezhi | Isn't there no debian maintainer ? |
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| 08:12.04 | psylence | Aliekezhi: interested? |
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| 08:12.35 | Aliekezhi | psylence, in using it yes ^^ |
| 08:13.13 | psylence | Aliekezhi, are you looking for a .deb? |
| 08:13.22 | psylence | You could just compile it from source... |
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| 08:14.34 | Aliekezhi | psylence, I'm not used to compile on debian, is there a way to make it in a clean way, so that I can uninstall it without letting part of it everywhere ? |
| 08:15.47 | jmcnaught | Aliekezhi: i don't see why this would be better than firefox really. seems like it's one person's fork/patch on firefox.. what qualifies them to make better decisions than Mozilla? How do they have the resources and competence to keep it secure? |
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| 08:16.56 | Aliekezhi | jmcnaught, hum maybe you're right, then what alternatives would you advice me for an old laptop who can't run firefox properly ? |
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| 08:17.23 | thms | !wheezy->jessie |
| 08:17.27 | Aliekezhi | jmcnaught, (the lightest possible web browser) |
| 08:17.28 | thms | !upgrade |
| 08:17.29 | dpkg | it has been said that upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <squeeze->wheezy> <wheezy->jessie>. |
| 08:17.39 | thms | !<wheezy->jessie> |
| 08:17.45 | thms | !wheezy->jessie |
| 08:17.49 | jmcnaught | thms: you can message the bot |
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| 08:18.13 | thms | Alright sorry for the noise people. |
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| 08:18.37 | psylence | Aliekezhi, chromium? |
| 08:18.54 | Aliekezhi | psylence, isn't that as heavy as firefox ? |
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| 08:19.05 | psylence | Aliekezhi, I'm on a 7-year-old laptop and I run vanilla firefox just fine. |
| 08:19.18 | jmcnaught | Aliekezhi: Firefox/Iceweasel and Chromium are the two best support browsers that get security updates on Jessie. There are other more lightweight browsers like Dillo, links, lynx but they won't have the same compatibility with sites |
| 08:19.19 | psylence | Are you sure your machine can't run firefox? |
| 08:19.19 | Aliekezhi | psylence, maybe you dont open 30 tabs at the same time :D |
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| 08:19.47 | Johann | Aliekezhi: you can try uzbl and surf, i don't know if you can get use to their interface, but they're worth a test |
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| 08:20.05 | jmcnaught | Aliekezhi: use fewer tabs then, and disable some extensions if you use any |
| 08:20.29 | RoyK | psylence: how much memory? what sort of cpu? |
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| 08:22.30 | Aliekezhi | RoyK, I'm running on old IBM thinkpad X40 ^^ |
| 08:23.52 | Aliekezhi | Johann, jmcnaught thank you for your suggestions, I'll try these browser. If it's not enough, I guess I will have to transform it into a thin client, and connect over SPICE to my main computer at home :) |
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| 08:26.05 | RoyK | Aliekezhi: what about cpu/memory? |
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| 08:29.55 | Aliekezhi | RoyK, 1GB memory |
| 08:30.14 | Aliekezhi | RoyK, Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GH |
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| 08:42.40 | MaBunny | Hey guys....i hav a problem |
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| 08:43.02 | MaBunny | All of a sudden after rebooting my computer |
| 08:43.33 | MaBunny | It doesnt reach the point of login screen |
| 08:43.57 | MaBunny | I mean it says write access unavailable |
| 08:44.12 | MaBunny | On sda1 |
| 08:44.53 | MaBunny | Read-only file system while trying to open /dev/sda1 |
| 08:45.39 | MaBunny | Target filesystem doesnt hav requested /sbin/init |
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| 08:46.47 | MaBunny | Is there a command in busybox to load the filesystem when it cant find it |
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| 08:48.24 | MaBunny | As of this moment...im sitting in front of my computer...staring at a black screen :( |
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| 08:50.59 | MaBunny | Wellit says to pass init=args |
| 08:51.06 | MaBunny | *well it |
| 08:51.51 | MaBunny | So...is there any command tht init knos to change the disk to r/w and load the system??? |
| 08:52.05 | jaggz | I have a server still running squeeze... |
| 08:52.12 | jaggz | what's the process to get that updated? |
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| 08:53.07 | jaggz | it's a remote server, and updating these things from here puts some fear in me |
| 08:53.54 | MaBunny | Thoshtta |
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| 08:56.32 | MaBunny | It means whats the matter |
| 08:56.42 | MaBunny | In japanese |
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| 08:58.18 | MaBunny | Theres stty command when i type help... But i dont kno its usage |
| 08:58.31 | MaBunny | And also one more thing |
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| 08:59.22 | MaBunny | If i had hurted/insulted someone by mistake in the last 1 n half hour....im srry |
| 08:59.44 | MaBunny | I guess... |
| 09:01.49 | MaBunny | So...thoshtta |
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| 09:06.14 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 09:10.37 | MaBunny | So...it means...i wont be getting any help??? |
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| 09:12.13 | sbine | MaBunny: You can ask on ##linux, or wait here for someone who could help you |
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| 09:13.32 | MaBunny | I feel like ive hurted someone and thts why nobody is helping me...im srry if i did |
| 09:13.44 | MaBunny | Ok |
| 09:14.08 | sbine | You don't hurted anybody |
| 09:14.27 | sbine | people are probably sleeping |
| 09:14.37 | MaBunny | Mount -t proc proc /proc says failed device or resource busy |
| 09:15.11 | MaBunny | Im also trying to get things on my own...atleast im trying |
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| 09:15.17 | MaBunny | :( |
| 09:17.01 | jaggz | MaBunny, come back during our regular business hours? |
| 09:17.13 | MaBunny | Ok |
| 09:17.13 | jaggz | I'm having a tough time finding help too |
| 09:17.14 | sbine | Maybe you have more luck with asking that on the oftc network |
| 09:17.47 | MaBunny | Im in a smartphone guys...its tough typing things |
| 09:18.01 | jaggz | k |
| 09:18.45 | MaBunny | Ls -l gives bin,conf,dev,etc,init,lib,proc,root,run,sbin,scripts,sys,tmp,var |
| 09:18.50 | MaBunny | Idk |
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| 09:21.59 | valerio-bozzolan | Hello :) I noticed that `apt-mirror` whites 100 lines/s of wget output in archive-log.0 |
| 09:22.14 | valerio-bozzolan | Writes * |
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| 09:25.03 | valerio-bozzolan | Do you suggest a "bug report" because of it's not configurable? |
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| 09:35.04 | MaBunny | Ok i think i found my solution :D |
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| 09:35.18 | sbine | Nice! |
| 09:36.22 | MaBunny | Im going to try it now...so hope it works :) |
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| 09:42.58 | MaBunny | Sbine do you kno the command to make a disk writeable??? |
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| 09:44.47 | sbine | Have you tried booting in single mode? |
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| 09:45.05 | MaBunny | Idk |
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| 09:45.23 | MaBunny | It says my disks are only readable |
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| 09:46.16 | MaBunny | I tried having a control over /dev/tty1 |
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| 09:46.23 | MaBunny | It worked |
| 09:46.44 | sbine | replace the init line with init="/bin/bash" |
| 09:47.04 | sbine | then mount -rw -o remount / |
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| 09:47.39 | MaBunny | How do i access the init file...i mean where is it |
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| 09:48.23 | sbine | When grub appeears, press e |
| 09:48.41 | MaBunny | Ok |
| 09:48.45 | sbine | choose the kernel line |
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| 09:49.00 | gdev | How to build a *.deb package which runs a command after the package was installed? (Note: Already can build a normal deb package) |
| 09:49.01 | sbine | and presse e to edit it |
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| 09:49.43 | MaBunny | Yes im in the init file |
| 09:49.53 | MaBunny | I mean seeing it |
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| 09:54.46 | sbine | MaBunny: Oh mistake dont replace the init line, just append init="/bin/bash" at the end of the line, separated by a space |
| 09:54.52 | MaBunny | Ok i had written "/bin/bash" but it didnt start bash |
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| 09:55.08 | MaBunny | Yes i figured tht out :) |
| 09:55.42 | MaBunny | I just dont kno the command to make a disk writeable |
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| 09:57.52 | sbine | Can you browse the net? |
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| 09:58.09 | sbine | https://www.vultr.com/docs/boot-into-single-user-mode-reset-root-password |
| 09:58.23 | sbine | take a look at that if you can |
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| 09:58.39 | sbine | The Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS 7 section |
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| 10:03.38 | MaBunny | Srry i was on firefox searching for chnging disks to writable...i did found wht i want but |
| 10:04.31 | MaBunny | There is no sudo in busybox and i dont kno wht is the root command for busybox |
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| 10:05.04 | MaBunny | Sbine can you tell me wht it is?? |
| 10:05.10 | sbine | su - ? |
| 10:05.18 | MaBunny | Ok ill try |
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| 10:06.00 | MaBunny | Su also not there |
| 10:06.20 | debuser | i have t460s laptop, and installed firmware from linux kernel org with linux-firmware_1.127.22_all.deb |
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| 10:06.35 | MaBunny | No...typing help doesnt show su or sudo there |
| 10:06.38 | debuser | but how can i enable wireless card? |
| 10:06.59 | sbine | Can't help more MaBunny |
| 10:07.05 | sbine | I don't know |
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| 10:07.43 | debuser | following https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=209496 with reboot doesn't help either. |
| 10:07.44 | MaBunny | Hehe |
| 10:07.47 | debuser | any advice? |
| 10:07.59 | MaBunny | Ok...its ok sbine |
| 10:08.11 | MaBunny | Thnx for your time :D |
| 10:08.29 | sbine | np |
| 10:08.50 | themill | !ifrp |
| 10:08.51 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
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| 10:30.04 | sbine | MaBunny: Try what themill say, i read the busybox man page, there is a switch_root command |
| 10:30.12 | sbine | maybe that can help |
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| 10:31.31 | debuser | how do i enable wireless in debian? |
| 10:33.01 | towo^work | install the right firmware for your secret wireless hardware? |
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| 10:33.07 | teraflops | You install wireless tools wpa supplicant and be sure your wireless nick is detected property (some may need firmware) |
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| 10:34.12 | debuser | yes i install firmware, but checking /sbin/ifconfig |
| 10:34.19 | debuser | no wlan, etc. found |
| 10:34.27 | debuser | only eth0 and lo existed |
| 10:34.57 | debuser | mylaptop is t460s and following http://askubuntu.com/questions/739676/broadcom-bcm4356-driver |
| 10:35.03 | debuser | now mod is up as well |
| 10:35.07 | debuser | but don't know enable wireless |
| 10:35.08 | teraflops | debuser: look at dmesg and lspci outputs |
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| 10:35.30 | teraflops | Oh bcm crap |
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| 10:36.29 | debuser | lspci show network controller: intel corporation wireless 8260 (rev 3a) |
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| 10:37.07 | debuser | dmesg | grep net shows e100e:intel pro/1000 network driver 2.3.2-k |
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| 10:37.59 | teraflops | debuser: the wireless nic is broadcom or Intel? |
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| 10:38.25 | markybob | debuser: what you need to do is paste lspci -nn to paste.debian.net |
| 10:38.33 | markybob | debuser: because you're being confusing as hell |
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| 10:39.26 | donnoc | Hi my freinds. I know I cann ad text to a file with "echo "foo" >> bar.log" but how can I Echo it to the bash output AND add it to a file? |
| 10:39.54 | teraflops | donnoc: fifos |
| 10:40.09 | debuser | lspci -nn shows network controller: intel ... wireless 8260 |
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| 10:40.30 | markybob | debuser: we don't care. we need the pastebin. there's a pciid in there that we need to see |
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| 10:41.28 | markybob | debuser: but probably what you need to do is apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi and then reboot |
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| 10:41.36 | debuser | sorry that's the problem. :( currently i use another laptop to go online. don't know how to copy paste between screen |
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| 10:42.09 | teraflops | donnoc: you man at the same time? |
| 10:42.24 | markybob | debuser: you have eth0 you said. can you plug it into ethernet to download that firmware file i just told you about? |
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| 10:42.33 | debuser | i've already installed all firmeware from linux kernel org http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-firmware/ |
| 10:42.45 | markybob | debuser: so you're using ubuntu? |
| 10:42.47 | donnoc | teraflops: at the same time would be great, because I don't want do add a line of code twice |
| 10:42.57 | debuser | markybob, here i do not have ethernet which is the worst : ( |
| 10:43.03 | markybob | debuser: this isn't #ubuntu. this is #debian. we cant support that |
| 10:43.07 | debuser | no, i use debian amd 64 |
| 10:43.21 | themill | I don't think the 8260 card as a driver available in jessie; I don't know about jessie-backports. |
| 10:43.24 | markybob | debuser: but you're using an ubuntu mirror. |
| 10:44.02 | teraflops | donnoc: ls -al | tee blah.txt |
| 10:44.14 | debuser | the ubuntu link is to give myself a chance to get it work because i run out of strategies |
| 10:44.48 | debuser | i download debian-live-8.4.0-amd64-gnome-desktop+nonfree.iso from unofficial website |
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| 10:45.02 | teraflops | debuser: please paste the pciid of the wireless.nic |
| 10:45.04 | debuser | after installation completes (no network) |
| 10:45.12 | donnoc | teraflops: tee? ok, I will try that |
| 10:45.35 | debuser | teraflops: how can i obtain pciid info? |
| 10:45.47 | teraflops | Lspci -kk |
| 10:45.57 | markybob | debuser: you need to set up jessie-backports in sources.list and then install firmware-iwlwifi from backports. http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 10:45.59 | donnoc | teraflops: great, that worked well. Thank you teraflops =D |
| 10:46.32 | debuser | wait a min. need type it in pastebin sorry : ( |
| 10:46.56 | teraflops | -nn sorry |
| 10:47.10 | teraflops | donnoc: np |
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| 10:48.06 | markybob | teraflops: i'm afraid we're going to go back to broadcom again :/ |
| 10:48.25 | teraflops | Heh bcm nightmare |
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| 10:56.38 | hellyeah | hey |
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| 10:56.44 | hellyeah | anyone use pug? |
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| 11:14.57 | ChrisH | !ask |
| 11:14.57 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 11:15.22 | hellyeah | i upgrade debian jessie to stretch right now |
| 11:15.43 | markybob | hellyeah: then you're in the wrong place for support. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
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| 11:16.15 | hellyeah | ah |
| 11:16.18 | hellyeah | i didnt know that |
| 11:16.33 | markybob | yeah i don't know why no one seems to read the channel /topic |
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| 11:17.02 | hellyeah | hmm |
| 11:17.08 | hellyeah | i think if you have any changes |
| 11:17.20 | hellyeah | sending message to p.m. can be nicer |
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| 11:18.00 | markybob | pm is against channel policy also :P |
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| 11:27.34 | High_Priest | anyone here using viber on debian? |
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| 11:32.42 | jubo2 | does the happy GNU/Linukka installation dance |
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| 11:37.51 | rihbyne | hi there debian folks! |
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| 11:39.51 | frshbeetz | sb levelclear -levels JOINS,PARTS,QUITS,NICKS,CLIENTCRAP,CRAP,MODE,TOPICS,KICKS |
| 11:39.55 | rihbyne | considering stable debian repo. if a particular package vulnerability is discovered...is it patched immediately and made available as an update through api-get? |
| 11:39.55 | frshbeetz | oops |
| 11:40.33 | markybob | rihbyne: yes that's how stable works. |
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| 11:41.13 | rihbyne | markybob: are you sure they are patched within a shortest time period? |
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| 11:41.41 | markybob | rihbyne: as much as possible as. debian tries hard to be as secure as possible |
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| 11:45.17 | rihbyne | okay.cool.I am reading debian administration guide :) |
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| 11:58.30 | Skyrider | Has anyone installed debian on a think client before? |
| 11:59.01 | bazhang | thin? |
| 11:59.08 | Skyrider | Sorry, ya.. thin client. |
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| 12:05.55 | dcpc007 | teraflops: cluster admin ? |
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| 12:06.25 | Mazhive | he guys trying to get ipv6 working.. some one helpfulll.. |
| 12:07.10 | Mazhive | i can ping6 to adress but cannot to dnsname is this a reversedns issue |
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| 12:10.13 | teraflops | dcpc007: wat? |
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| 12:12.27 | teraflops | dcpc007: nope reverse dns issue is when e.g `host ip address` returns not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 12:12.44 | teraflops | ups I meant Mazhive |
| 12:13.05 | dcpc007 | whith your pseudo i ask if you were in cluster admin :) |
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| 12:13.24 | teraflops | dcpc007: ah heh nope |
| 12:14.24 | Mazhive | is some one able to ping my ipv6 number vollunteers please ;) |
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| 12:16.08 | teraflops | Mazhive: Im not clairvoyant ... |
| 12:16.16 | JyZyXEL | wow, i was wondering why is there a daemon called "sanlock" suddenly running on my system, taking ~35 MiB of memory... |
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| 12:16.46 | JyZyXEL | so aptitude why tells me: i libsanlock-dev Depends sanlock (= 2.2-2) |
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| 12:17.02 | JyZyXEL | and the only reason i could think of why that package is installed, is because some build-dep pulled it |
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| 12:17.21 | ochiottes | judd: |
| 12:17.41 | JyZyXEL | how do i prevent build-deps from cluttering my system and spawning un-necessary daemons behind my back? |
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| 12:20.05 | dionysus69 | gnome fails to load extensions after wake up and I am forced to alt+f2 <-"r" on every wake up. anyone know of a solution? I am on gnome 3.14 |
| 12:21.20 | teraflops | dionysus69: 3rd party gnome extension? go ask the devel I guess |
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| 12:21.46 | dionysus69 | well arent all extensions 3rd party? |
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| 12:22.03 | dionysus69 | pretty much all extensions are affected, I dont know which ones arent |
| 12:22.03 | teraflops | more reasons for asking the devel |
| 12:22.19 | teraflops | ah all the extension? |
| 12:22.25 | dionysus69 | yep |
| 12:22.29 | teraflops | hmm |
| 12:22.30 | dionysus69 | thats pretty rare I suppose |
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| 12:24.28 | spleen | Hi all. I have a default file conf. example inside ==> |
| 12:24.36 | spleen | var1=A |
| 12:24.45 | spleen | var2=B |
| 12:25.01 | spleen | var="$var1 $var2" |
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| 12:25.27 | spleen | i want to call my variable "$var" in a systemd script. |
| 12:25.33 | spleen | I used => |
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| 12:25.59 | spleen | EnvironmentFile=/etc/default/myConfFile |
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| 12:26.11 | warsoul | hi |
| 12:26.24 | warsoul | where can i download debian for a new install |
| 12:26.26 | spleen | and ExecStart=/usr/bin/java $var ...lot of stuff.. |
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| 12:26.36 | spleen | but it doesnt work |
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| 12:26.49 | spleen | Can anybody help me please :s ? |
| 12:27.10 | Javabean | warsoul: https://www.debian.org/CD/ |
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| 12:29.02 | warsoul | javabean how manny cds i have to download |
| 12:29.13 | themill | spleen: EnvironmentFile is just read in, it's not a shell script |
| 12:30.08 | warsoul | because i see debian-8.4.0-amd64-cd-1.iso |
| 12:30.12 | warsoul | cd-2 |
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| 12:30.14 | warsoul | etc. |
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| 12:30.24 | spleen | themill, thanks for answer. so how can i do that ? I just want to read some variable in a conf file, and call these variable in My ExecStart instruction |
| 12:30.32 | Javabean | you only need cd1 to install a base system. if you grab one of the live installers though, it will have everything you need to have to install that Desktop Environment |
| 12:31.31 | warsoul | ok |
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| 12:31.58 | warsoul | im downloading it to a computer to put it on cd and install it in another one |
| 12:32.45 | themill | spleen: that works fine |
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| 12:32.56 | Javabean | it can be put on a usb stick and run from that, if the computer can boot from usb |
| 12:33.17 | warsoul | ok |
| 12:33.20 | warsoul | so with cd-1 |
| 12:33.23 | warsoul | i should be good |
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| 12:34.30 | spleen | themill, 'didnt understant. How to do that ? |
| 12:34.57 | Javabean | if you have never worked with debian before, it might be easier to use one of the live installers though |
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| 12:41.49 | jubo2 | where is aptitude binary located? |
| 12:42.05 | jubo2 | I think I dunn skip "install sshd" part on getting a new server to migrate to |
| 12:42.43 | jubo2 | I got root@sysresccd via VNC |
| 12:43.03 | jubo2 | so I think I just need to 'aptitude install sshd' and it'll be ait..? |
| 12:43.13 | jubo2 | but I don't see it in /bin |
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| 12:44.41 | jubo2 | I just need to cd to the dir where I can find the 'aptitude' binary executable plos |
| 12:45.23 | spleen | i have done something like that : http://www.alaux.net/articles/systemd-unit-files-and-environment-variables/ |
| 12:45.35 | spleen | but doesnt work for me... |
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| 12:46.32 | jophish | Hi all |
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| 12:47.06 | jubo2 | There was the white on blue dialogue about installing "additional" and I don't want no webserver nor any other default stuff. But I'd expect the installation process (for server system, opposite default for client is brainsane) to INSTALL SSHD for me |
| 12:47.23 | jophish | I'm trying to install Jessie from a usb disk. When I boot I get a uefi error "invalid signature detected". I've tried with the Jessie amd64 dvd image and the nonfree drivers image |
| 12:47.26 | jubo2 | Maybe I just tell 'em to scrap this server and just create another one |
| 12:47.59 | jonkri | Trying to install libmail-sfp-query-perl, I'm getting a message that it's not available, but is referred to by another package. I'm not sure exactly what this means, what other package is referring to it, or what I can install instead. How am I generally supposed to investigate this? |
| 12:48.07 | themill | spleen: "something like" isn't very informative |
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| 12:50.43 | alioui_ | hi all, why systemctl report wrong status of a service. the service is running and systemctl says it is stop |
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| 12:51.02 | alioui_ | after system stop service |
| 12:51.09 | jophish | Am I correct in understanding that all the Jessie images support SecureBoot? |
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| 13:09.14 | jophish | Would it be possible to install Jessie without UEFI and then reenable that? |
| 13:10.29 | Devastator | jmcnaught ping? would you help me continue setting up KVM? I've finished the installation of the host, created one VG for the host (having /, /home and swap), one VG for the VMs, is this correct or would be better to have one VG per VM? assuming I did it right, I've then installed qemu-kvm and libvirt-bin, what would be the next step to set VG for VMs as storage pool? |
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| 13:16.13 | jophish | Ah, It doesn't support secureboot https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#UEFI_Secure_Boot |
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| 13:20.04 | warsoul | im trying to boot from cd but is getting back to normal windows starting |
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| 13:23.00 | jophish | is it possible to use mokmanager to add a key for the debian bootloader? |
| 13:23.12 | Iridos | I have a webpage with basic auth and iceweasel just hangs on it... in the web console I can see 401 authorisation denied... there's never a dialog popping up |
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| 13:23.37 | tapacenbal | Hi, Is a NVMe SSD bottlenecked with a 16 PCI-E lanes CPU ? |
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| 13:33.12 | jophish | During installation I'm hitting a problem looking for the iwlwifi firmware |
| 13:33.26 | jophish | I've got the netinstall-with-nonfree-firmware image |
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| 13:37.45 | somiaj | jophish: that is strange, the iwlwifi firmware is on that image? Could it be you have a newer iwlwifi card and the 3.16 kernel + firmware is not new enough for the device and you need backports? |
| 13:38.33 | warsoul | someone could help me out |
| 13:38.36 | warsoul | please |
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| 13:38.46 | jophish | somiaj: I fixed it by unpacking the nonfree firmware package into the firmware directory on the usb disk |
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| 13:39.09 | jophish | warsoul: you might need to press F2 or F12 during boot to get a choice |
| 13:39.30 | warsoul | jophish i press F12 y select boot from cd |
| 13:39.42 | warsoul | but is not doing nothing it goes straight to windows again |
| 13:39.42 | jophish | hmm, weird |
| 13:40.05 | warsoul | im burning the cd again |
| 13:40.32 | somiaj | jophish: ahh, sounds like you don't have the non-free installer, you just have the non-free firmware (which the normal isntaller can use if you do what you described) |
| 13:40.56 | jophish | somiaj: yeah, I thought I had the nonfree installer, how odd |
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| 13:42.00 | somiaj | warsoul: burning a cd? You aren't using usb? Are you sure you are correctly using efi or legacy boot? |
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| 13:43.55 | High_Priest | anyone here using viber on debian? |
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| 13:45.00 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell High_Priest about ask |
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| 13:46.51 | Orangs | Good day. |
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| 13:49.36 | High_Priest | has anyone here been able to run latest viber on debian 8.4 ? |
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| 13:50.22 | somiaj | ,v viber |
| 13:50.23 | judd | No package named 'viber' was found in amd64. |
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| 13:51.36 | somiaj | High_Priest: you won't get a very good answer to that specific question here. It seems that viber is not a package in debian so you would have to install it following the upstream directions. Debian is setup so you can compile software not in debian and run it. But you may want to look at viber support for details on how that |
| 13:53.32 | somiaj | High_Priest: it appears viber has a .deb for debian that may work. They don't specify what os the .deb was made for. It also appears that it is non-free so you will have to talk to viber's support if installing that deb doesn't work |
| 13:53.44 | High_Priest | I have already tried talking with viber support and it seems that they decided to drop support for debian but support only fedora/ubuntu so their official answer is that it is no longer supported. I was hoping someone maybe found a way to actually run it on debian |
| 13:54.00 | somiaj | High_Priest: what I would try is 'dpkg -i foo.deb' and then 'apt-get -f install' |
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| 13:54.37 | somiaj | High_Priest: if they no longer support the versions of the libaries found in debian stable, and only proivided you a non-free binary that links to libaries only found in ubuntu, it won't be easy |
| 13:54.45 | High_Priest | somiaj, I have installed that deb. It does not run. It reports "This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb"." |
| 13:54.53 | somiaj | High_Priest: and it also sounds like you have your answer. The provider of said software isn't supporting jessie. |
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| 13:55.16 | somiaj | High_Priest: well if debian doens't provide the qt platform plugin version it needs, you won't get it to work easily in debian. |
| 13:55.29 | somiaj | High_Priest: and we dont' really support third party non-free software here. |
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| 13:56.47 | High_Priest | okay, thanks somiaj |
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| 13:58.58 | somiaj | High_Priest: http://tutorialforlinux.com/2015/06/09/how-to-install-viber-on-debian-64bit-gnu-linux/ -- is that out of date and not working for you? |
| 14:00.16 | hypermist | how can i install libboost 1.54 |
| 14:00.25 | somiaj | ,v libboost |
| 14:00.26 | judd | No package named 'libboost' was found in amd64. |
| 14:00.58 | somiaj | ,v libboost1.54 |
| 14:00.59 | judd | No package named 'libboost1.54' was found in amd64. |
| 14:00.59 | abrotman | hypermist: which veresion of Debian? |
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| 14:01.40 | abrotman | hypermist: specifically that version? or just 1.54 or higher? |
| 14:01.45 | somiaj | High_Priest: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=127235 -- seems larry77 had gotten it to work. |
| 14:01.49 | watmm | Hey i'm trying to combine two remotely executed tail commands into a single stream - cat <(ssh remote1 'tail -f foo') <(ssh remote2 'tail -f bar') - but the output is very slow and buffered, anyone know why and what i can do about it? |
| 14:02.43 | somiaj | High_Priest: actually looks like that was for viber 6.x, it may not work for the nwer version |
| 14:03.30 | hypermist | abrotman, because thats the onyl version that works with the code im using |
| 14:03.34 | hypermist | and debian 8 |
| 14:03.42 | petemc | watmm: i prefix commands with stdbuf -o0 to prevent buffering problems |
| 14:03.49 | abrotman | hypermist: You'd have to go from source probably, jessie already has 1.55 I think |
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| 14:04.40 | hypermist | cr*p abrotman :| |
| 14:05.06 | abrotman | you can say "dang it" in here .. |
| 14:05.06 | High_Priest | somiaj, don't bother... I guess I just have to live without it |
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| 14:05.16 | Skyrider | Why on earth would there be a password on live demo. |
| 14:05.30 | jml2 | Skyrider, cuse its cool |
| 14:06.01 | somiaj | Skyrider: 'sudo' should be setup to work with NOPASS and you can get root access that way ont he live images |
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| 14:11.46 | watmm | petemc: Hrm, doesn't seem to work. stdbuf -o0 cat <(ssh machine1 ' tail -f foo') <(ssh machine2 'tail -f bar) ? |
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| 14:16.15 | lesta | how can I manage upgrades in multiple debian workstations ? with remote ssh login? |
| 14:16.29 | petemc | watmm: i mostly use it to take input from things like tail -f, if you dont some apps will wait until buffers fill up before printing. it probably isnt much help in your case |
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| 14:19.16 | petn-randall | lesta: I use clusterssh to do bugfix updates on several machines. I would recommend it with a upgrade to a new release, though. |
| 14:20.40 | lesta | ok, good and thanks |
| 14:20.42 | watmm | I'm just trying to get too streams in one really, in a more lightweight way than graylog/kibana |
| 14:20.48 | watmm | *two |
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| 14:27.14 | jml2 | lesta, if you want to save bandwidth you can try to use apt-proxy |
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| 14:30.21 | lesta | jml2: yes the bandwidth is a problem, thanks |
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| 14:32.31 | dryblow | Why I could make two accounts with same UID? |
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| 14:32.45 | Orangs | Hello guys. I have propably problem with IMAP. Somebody can help me through IRC chat or skype? |
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| 14:33.49 | greycat | dryblow: it's common on commercial unix systems, especially if that UID is 0. |
| 14:34.23 | greycat | dryblow: e.g. some people like to set up an alternate root account that has a comfortable login shel (like bash or zsh) on systems where the "real" root account has something like /bin/sh or /bin/csh and cannot safely be changed. |
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| 14:35.20 | dryblow | greycat, oh great, I had never though that |
| 14:35.26 | Orangs | Here is logs with 2 errors. Any solutions how to fix this issue? Here is link for logs http://pastebin.com/9BMBxKz9 |
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| 14:38.23 | dryblow | greycat, Thanks so much for explain! |
| 14:38.33 | anexit_ | Is there a program that can open a .img file (kvm-qemu) and extract data from it? |
| 14:39.08 | Skyrider | Is there a command to view the gpu information on the live linux without network? |
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| 14:39.38 | petemc | Skyrider: lspci |
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| 14:41.01 | Orangs | greycat, do you have experiences with IMAP? |
| 14:41.14 | greycat | Not much. |
| 14:41.46 | Skyrider | petemc :p thanks, but not exactly specific either. |
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| 14:42.11 | Orangs | Can u look on this errors? http://pastebin.com/9BMBxKz9 I really dont know, where is problem :/ |
| 14:43.16 | Skyrider | "Authentication failed"? |
| 14:44.43 | ChrisH | PW or User incorrect |
| 14:45.24 | Skyrider | ^ couldn't it be that the auth type is incompatible? |
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| 14:45.28 | Skyrider | if user/pass is correct. |
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| 14:46.03 | JustinHitla | how to find out width and height of the window ? there should be tool like "xinfo" or something like that |
| 14:46.57 | greycat | xwininfo |
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| 14:47.06 | Orangs | ChrisH: propably. But when i create mailbox in webpanel, no folders are created for this mailbox :o |
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| 14:52.40 | JustinHitla | greycat: thanks |
| 14:52.50 | JustinHitla | greycat: do you know how to probramm in bash ? |
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| 14:53.19 | greycat | If you're asking how to write a bash script to extract info from xwininfo, the answer would be "dear gods WHY" |
| 14:53.36 | JustinHitla | no |
| 14:53.45 | JustinHitla | I want to know if you know bash |
| 14:54.05 | JustinHitla | thats all |
| 14:54.22 | jelly | whether greycat knows bash is not realy topic of this channel |
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| 14:54.40 | jelly | ask your real question, if there is one |
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| 14:56.33 | bazhang | #bash does JustinHitla |
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| 14:59.26 | Bigsista | hi all. i'm trying to build a dsc package, that only installs the content of a source tarball without compiling anything. i'm stuck at how and where to define unpack source and install folders in debian/rules or wherever. anyone can hook me zup with an example? |
| 14:59.27 | warsoul | the normal installation comes with a desktop enviroment? |
| 14:59.59 | greycat | A default Debian installation has one of the desktop tasks checked, yes. |
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| 15:00.10 | greycat | But you can uncheck that extremely easily during the install. |
| 15:01.00 | warsoul | greycat i should use that or install anotherone |
| 15:01.09 | greycat | Use whatever you want. |
| 15:01.24 | greycat | The beauty of Debian is that there is no one single "way". You can be unique. |
| 15:01.46 | warsoul | how do i open the desktop |
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| 15:02.21 | greycat | Depends on what you installed. If it's something like GNOME or KDE or XFCE then you get a GUI login when the machine has finished booting. When you login, you're automatically running in that desktop. |
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| 15:02.41 | greycat | If you use a more manual method, you can do a console login and then run 'startx'. |
| 15:02.57 | chenx97_ | make sure you have a display manager though |
| 15:03.26 | greycat | Most users who run a desktop environment also choose to run a display manager, but it's not absolutely required. |
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| 15:03.44 | greycat | ("Choose" is a strong word here, by the way... most users don't know what the hell is going on and they just have this because it's a default.) |
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| 15:04.02 | warsoul | i type startx |
| 15:04.10 | warsoul | nothing happen |
| 15:04.20 | greycat | Not possible. SOMETHING has to happen, even if that's an error. |
| 15:04.43 | warsoul | freeze |
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| 15:04.55 | warsoul | is not doing nothing or type nothing |
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| 15:05.25 | greycat | Well, that's *something* for sure. Sounds like the version of X + drivers you currently have does not like your hardware. |
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| 15:05.31 | rmrfchik | damn, pam.d won't auth with slock/xscreensaver/etc, only login can auth |
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| 15:05.42 | chenx97 | how could that be? i went to tty1 and typed startx |
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| 15:05.56 | chenx97 | then i have two GNOME running now |
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| 15:06.12 | chenx97 | because i am using another one in tty7 as default |
| 15:06.15 | greycat | warsoul: Get back to a working console and then run "lspci -nn | grep -i vga" |
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| 15:06.45 | warsoul | ok im restarting |
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| 15:09.13 | warsoul | greycat: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07) |
| 15:09.23 | greycat | ,pciid 8086:2a42 |
| 15:09.24 | judd | [8086:2a42] is 'Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2a42 |
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| 15:10.05 | greycat | warsoul: If the jessie driver isn't working for this hardware, one thing you might try is installing the jessie-backports version of the xserver-xorg-video-intel package. |
| 15:10.20 | warsoul | how can i do that |
| 15:10.29 | chenx97 | pciid 8086:0a2e |
| 15:10.40 | greycat | Enable jessie-backports, then do apt-get install -t jessie-backports xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 15:10.41 | warsoul | ? |
| 15:10.57 | watmm | petemc: FYI it was grep doing the buffering, resolved with --line-buffered |
| 15:10.57 | chenx97 | ,pciid 8086:0a2e |
| 15:10.58 | judd | [8086:0a2e] is 'Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0a2e |
| 15:11.00 | warsoul | how do i enable backports |
| 15:11.09 | greycat | !jessie-backports |
| 15:11.09 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
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| 15:11.33 | chenx97 | sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 15:11.49 | greycat | typo in the filename, and assuming nano is not wise |
| 15:12.10 | chenx97 | my fault |
| 15:12.41 | chenx97 | edit /etc/apt/sources.list with your preferred editor |
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| 15:13.42 | warsoul | greycat how can i get the backports |
| 15:13.49 | warsoul | i dont get what dpkg said |
| 15:13.50 | greycat | Read what dpkg just said. |
| 15:14.04 | greycat | Add that line to your sources.list and apt-get update. |
| 15:14.17 | petemc | watmm: good job |
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| 15:14.21 | warsoul | pc has to be connected on internet? |
| 15:14.24 | greycat | yes |
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| 15:20.19 | warsoul | i did it |
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| 15:21.11 | warsoul | E: The value 'jessie-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
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| 15:26.56 | jelly | warsoul: did "apt-get update" after the file edit finish successfully, without errors? |
| 15:27.24 | greycat | warsoul: also, which version of Debian are you actually running? cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:28.25 | warsoul | jelly it failed to fetch |
| 15:28.50 | warsoul | greycat 8.4 |
| 15:28.59 | jelly | pastebin the complete output and the current contents of your sources.list, then |
| 15:29.23 | warsoul | i have 2 computers |
| 15:29.33 | warsoul | the one witb deb is just running terminal |
| 15:30.33 | jelly | !pastebinit |
| 15:30.33 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 15:31.10 | jelly | warsoul: or copy/paste outputs to a text file, use a usb stick and upload it |
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| 15:34.00 | baml | hi |
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| 15:34.27 | baml | can someone please help me get past a grub filesystem not recognized error after reimaging a machine with a dd'ed debian image? |
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| 15:35.13 | epsilon | baml: whets the actual error message? |
| 15:35.32 | fireba11 | baml: also did you try to verify it's okay with som live media? |
| 15:35.40 | greycat | Did you somehow *not* dd the entire disk? |
| 15:35.46 | epsilon | and grub is a bootloadet, not a filesystem |
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| 15:36.43 | epsilon | eh, forget my last scentence |
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| 15:38.34 | baml | fireba11: i am booting with kali linux DVD because debian thought fdisk was not a necessary tool on their install DVD... |
| 15:38.44 | baml | im going to run fdisk to look @ partition table |
| 15:39.18 | fireba11 | baml: they probably got parted in it because fdisk doesn#t handle GPT partitioning |
| 15:39.49 | greycat | The fdisk in jessie says it understands GPT. In the man page at least. |
| 15:40.09 | baml | how else can i read partition/GPT on debian DVD? |
| 15:40.23 | fireba11 | baml: i only use netinstall anyway |
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| 15:40.26 | greycat | God only knows. There are so many damned things now. fdisk, parted, sfdisk, ...? |
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| 15:41.33 | baml | which tool can ii use? |
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| 15:42.59 | greycat | None of those three are present? |
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| 15:43.37 | fireba11 | baml: you're the first guy in years that i heared of using the install DVD :-D |
| 15:43.42 | ocZio | hi all, I have the following card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC283 Analog [ALC283 Analog] but for some reason cannot get any noise out of the headphones I am using. (Debian jessie 8.4.0) |
| 15:43.52 | ocZio | I had a look and the volume is up and not muted (alsamixer) |
| 15:44.05 | baml | hmm mount says wrong fs type |
| 15:44.06 | ocZio | is there anything else I can do to debug this ? |
| 15:44.09 | baml | how can i detect FS type? |
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| 15:44.21 | greycat | baml: I would verify the partition table first. |
| 15:44.22 | warsoul | jelly can i send you pictures |
| 15:44.25 | warsoul | by email? |
| 15:44.37 | baml | greycat: how? |
| 15:44.51 | greycat | Did you try fdisk, parted and sfdisk? Are they ALL missing? |
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| 15:45.40 | greycat | Also cfdisk. |
| 15:46.16 | warsoul | hello |
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| 15:47.53 | baml | cfdisk says partition type 83: Linux |
| 15:47.59 | baml | what does that mean? which FS is this? |
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| 15:48.20 | greycat | It's just legacy crap. Don't worry about the type. Make sure the partitions are all present and seem to be the right size and relative position. |
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| 15:48.46 | baml | yea they look OK |
| 15:48.51 | baml | but i cannot mount |
| 15:48.56 | awwal | How to disable X app from being started when login in X because it have an autostart file in /etc/xdg/autostart? |
| 15:48.57 | greycat | What type of file system is it *supposed* to be? |
| 15:48.57 | baml | i think the sdb1 is supposedto be ext4 |
| 15:49.08 | greycat | And you're using a kernel with ext4 support? |
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| 15:49.24 | baml | what module should i load to support it? |
| 15:49.26 | baml | im not sure |
| 15:49.33 | baml | this is a Boot DVD |
| 15:49.50 | greycat | The debian installer in rescue mode should definitely support ext4. |
| 15:50.01 | tharkun | It does. |
| 15:50.04 | greycat | If it's nodnt a debian disk, we have no idea. |
| 15:50.09 | tharkun | Used it earlier today. |
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| 15:50.41 | baml | this is debain 8.2 DVD |
| 15:50.47 | greycat | should be good enough |
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| 15:51.16 | greycat | If it can't even detect that your partition has an ext4 file system, then it sounds like your backup is corrupted. |
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| 15:51.23 | greycat | Or your restore process corrupted it somehow. |
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| 15:56.06 | warsoul | how can i install kde desktop on debian8 |
| 15:56.32 | greycat | You would need a working X server (with video drivers) first. |
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| 15:56.57 | warsoul | mines are not working? |
| 15:57.20 | greycat | 11:04 warsoul> i type startx |
| 15:57.21 | greycat | 11:04 warsoul> nothing happen |
| 15:57.23 | greycat | 11:04 warsoul> freeze |
| 15:57.25 | baml | ok im gonna extract the image again |
| 15:57.45 | warsoul | gerycat im having problems with the backports |
| 15:57.49 | baml | gunzip -c PATH | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=32M |
| 15:57.51 | warsoul | could you please help me out |
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| 15:57.54 | baml | is that correct? |
| 15:58.16 | greycat | Add one line to /etc/apt/sources.list (the bot said what to add), and run apt-get update. |
| 15:58.25 | greycat | What more help do you need? |
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| 15:58.52 | greycat | what the hell is gunzip -c |
| 15:58.58 | warsoul | greycat im getting errors |
| 15:59.06 | greycat | WHAT is the error? |
| 15:59.14 | baml | print to console, but then i pipe to dd |
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| 15:59.25 | baml | its a gz archive |
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| 15:59.34 | Pr0metheus | i am trying to setup a vpn connection using the strongswan network-manager plugin, i click to add a new VPN connection, placed values but the Add button never becomes active, anyone has any experience with this? |
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| 15:59.56 | greycat | 32M is a ridiculously large block size, but I guess it's not wrong |
| 16:00.20 | warsoul | greycat: Err http://security.debian.org jessie/updates inrelease |
| 16:00.27 | baml | i have 8GB RAm here... |
| 16:00.54 | warsoul | Err http://httpredir.debian.org jessie-backports InRealease |
| 16:01.16 | warsoul | Err http://ftp.debian.org jessie-updates InRealease |
| 16:01.30 | warsoul | greycat im getting those errores when |
| 16:01.33 | warsoul | apt-get update |
| 16:01.54 | greycat | What the hell did you do? Did you write the sources.list file on a windows machine and then copy it over? Is the Debian machine still not connected to the Internet? |
| 16:02.12 | warsoul | is connected |
| 16:02.34 | greycat | Well, maybe someone else knows what "inrelease" or "InRealease" means. |
| 16:02.42 | LostSoul | Hello |
| 16:03.01 | LostSoul | How to use many groups in libnss nss_base_passwd? |
| 16:03.01 | warsoul | greycat i connected the cable from router to pc |
| 16:03.12 | warsoul | how can i check if i have internet connection? |
| 16:03.12 | LostSoul | When I query more than 2-3 it stops working |
| 16:03.18 | greycat | ping something |
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| 16:04.21 | warsoul | network is unreachable |
| 16:04.43 | greycat | Then I'm guessing that's what's causing apt-get update to fail. |
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| 16:05.33 | greycat | Try "ifup eth0". Maybe you'll get lucky. |
| 16:06.18 | awwal | warsoul, for install kde : kde-full, kde-standard, kde-plasma-desktop, kde-plasma-netbook, task-kde-desktop, check descriptions and choose |
| 16:06.34 | warsoul | Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. |
| 16:06.39 | awwal | you may also try restarting network-manager, warsoul |
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| 16:07.05 | warsoul | awwal how do i do that |
| 16:07.07 | greycat | He has no X. He can't even run startx. He says his machine freezes. I'm trying to help him install the jessie-backports intel driver, but now he can't even get a simple internet connection. |
| 16:07.08 | awwal | systemctl restart netrowk-manager.service (root) |
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| 16:07.29 | Orangs | Hallo guys. Anybody have good experiences with postfix and dovecot? I need help with this,ASAP. |
| 16:07.34 | greycat | !ask |
| 16:07.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:07.52 | Orangs | !ask |
| 16:07.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:08.05 | greycat | You're supposed to read it, not repeat it. |
| 16:08.18 | awwal | xD xD xD |
| 16:08.39 | warsoul | how do i restart network manager |
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| 16:08.55 | awwal | warsoul, already told you |
| 16:08.56 | greycat | do what awwal said but fix the typos he made. |
| 16:09.12 | greycat | But I doubt you have network-manager installed. |
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| 16:09.28 | greycat | I am far more concerned with why ifup eth0 did not work. |
| 16:09.38 | warsoul | Failed to restart network-manager.service: Unit network-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory |
| 16:09.52 | warsoul | greycat |
| 16:09.55 | greycat | what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:10.44 | awwal | warsoul, are you trying to update/install pkgs/restart network-manager as root or as regular user? |
| 16:10.57 | warsoul | no |
| 16:10.57 | greycat | awwal: which part of "No such file or directory" was unclear |
| 16:11.01 | Orangs | I m running Debian 8 and I have problem with panel "sentora". Every module (domain,ftp,..) working very well, but Mailboxes doesnt work. I have some error logs, but i cant still fix this issue. Can i post a link, where I describing my problem? |
| 16:11.08 | warsoul | im root |
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| 16:11.27 | awwal | greycat, he may get that if running the command as regular user |
| 16:11.38 | greycat | I would expect him to get permission denied. |
| 16:12.07 | warsoul | what can i do guys |
| 16:12.07 | greycat | Anyway, if he doesn't have a display manager installed (AND THANK GOD because it would probably freeze his machine at boot), then he probably doesn't have network-manager either. |
| 16:12.15 | greycat | warsoul: what do you have in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:13.20 | warsoul | greycat source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* |
| 16:13.31 | greycat | oh fucking HELL, what |
| 16:13.32 | warsoul | #The loopback network interface |
| 16:13.34 | warsoul | auto lo |
| 16:13.41 | warsoul | iface lo inet loopback |
| 16:13.46 | greycat | Oh. There's more. You're just pasting slowly. |
| 16:13.50 | warsoul | thats it |
| 16:13.54 | greycat | Nothing about eth0? |
| 16:13.57 | warsoul | no |
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| 16:14.12 | greycat | Add these two lines: "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
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| 16:14.17 | greycat | Then try ifup eth0 |
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| 16:15.54 | warsoul | greycat is DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to IP port 67 interval * |
| 16:16.04 | greycat | That's better... |
| 16:16.31 | greycat | It may take several seconds for your router's DHCP service to complete. |
| 16:16.48 | warsoul | No DHCPOFFERS received. |
| 16:17.05 | warsoul | No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. |
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| 16:17.15 | greycat | Does your router not do DHCP at all? You said you had another computer...? Does that one use DHCP? |
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| 16:17.22 | warsoul | grep: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory |
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| 16:17.34 | warsoul | im connected |
| 16:17.37 | warsoul | but wifi |
| 16:17.50 | warsoul | i connect the one with debian with a ethernet cable |
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| 16:18.24 | Orangs | Someone here have experiences with Postfix and Dovecot? |
| 16:18.31 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 16:18.51 | warsoul | greycat what should i do now |
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| 16:19.20 | greycat | Find out how to configure your router to do DHCP over the ethernet interfaces, or figure out how to statically configure your Debian networking to talk to that router. |
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| 16:21.24 | warsoul | greycat |
| 16:21.29 | warsoul | allows dhcp |
| 16:22.03 | warsoul | i have beggining and ending address |
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| 16:22.10 | warsoul | and dhcp lease time |
| 16:22.23 | greycat | Then try "ifdown eth0" and "ifup eth0". |
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| 16:23.57 | warsoul | greycat the lease time is set to 1 weeks |
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| 16:24.12 | greycat | Can you ping ftp.us.debian.org now? |
| 16:24.37 | warsoul | no |
| 16:24.43 | warsoul | it came out with the same error |
| 16:24.49 | warsoul | after dhcpdiscover |
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| 16:24.57 | warsoul | should i change the lease time? |
| 16:25.07 | greycat | The lease time is not an issue. |
| 16:25.10 | warsoul | ok |
| 16:25.19 | greycat | *not working at all* is the issue |
| 16:25.33 | warsoul | yes |
| 16:25.47 | warsoul | i dont know if the cable is not working |
| 16:25.51 | warsoul | should be is a new one |
| 16:26.05 | warsoul | and the router is new also |
| 16:26.13 | warsoul | was installed yesterday |
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| 16:29.21 | warsoul | greycat is there anyway to connect to wifi |
| 16:29.27 | warsoul | in terminal |
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| 16:32.01 | abrotman | yes |
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| 16:35.32 | warsoul | abrotman how |
| 16:35.47 | abrotman | nm-cli |
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| 16:37.29 | deez | Can someone help me with this SSH related question? http://pastebin.com/raw/m0Har9rq |
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| 16:38.03 | warsoul | abrotman was that? |
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| 16:40.54 | NeilHanlon | hey guys! I just went to do a dist-upgrade on my desktop here and it wants to remove gnome : |
| 16:41.00 | NeilHanlon | :( any thoughts on why? |
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| 16:41.25 | NeilHanlon | debian 8.1 |
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| 16:41.42 | warsoul | how do i connect wifi in terminal |
| 16:41.51 | jml2 | warsoul, nmcli |
| 16:42.12 | ChrisH | deez: From my understanding that gatewayPort is only needed it you want to open your local Port 8080 into the example.com network |
| 16:42.48 | deez | ChrisH: Isn't that what I'm trying to do? |
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| 16:43.22 | deez | I want to be able to access a server that is only accessible by localhost:8080 on my laptop, if I wasn't clear about that. |
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| 16:44.22 | jml2 | deez, all servers can be setup to localhost |
| 16:45.38 | deez | Ok, so what am I doing wrong? Or, better question, how can I accomplish what I desire? |
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| 16:46.16 | warsoul | jml2 nmcli command not found |
| 16:46.25 | jml2 | deez, you might need to edit /etc/hosts , and make sure you have 127.0.0.1 for localhost |
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| 16:46.46 | deez | On the local machine, correct? |
| 16:46.48 | jml2 | warsoul, did you use the gui to setup the wifi? |
| 16:46.53 | Omilun | hello i have debian 8 with i3wm ... i have a problem to laptop sound . i had alsa but i has too much problems and i removed it and i installed again . now i my laptop dont have any sounds . my laptop is thinkpad t430s . |
| 16:47.05 | warsoul | jml2 havent done nothing |
| 16:47.11 | jml2 | deez, where else? you can't access localhost over a network wire. |
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| 16:47.12 | warsoul | just finish installing debian on pc |
| 16:47.36 | jml2 | warsoul, if you haven't done nothing, means you have done something |
| 16:47.43 | jml2 | :) |
| 16:47.44 | deez | But that's what I want to do, using SSH, lol! |
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| 16:47.52 | warsoul | jml2 |
| 16:47.55 | JustinHitla | -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 125424 Feb 29 2008 su |
| 16:47.56 | warsoul | what can i do |
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| 16:48.05 | JustinHitla | what does "s" means in that ls output ? |
| 16:48.11 | warsoul | i need connect to be able install some drives then desktop |
| 16:48.13 | NeilHanlon | JustinHitla: sticky bit |
| 16:48.20 | jml2 | JustinHitla, man intro |
| 16:48.31 | jelly | JustinHitla: which s? |
| 16:48.35 | JustinHitla | that mean doesn't matter whoever run that "su" it will run with root priveleges ? |
| 16:48.45 | abrotman | warsoul: nm-cli, not nmcli |
| 16:48.50 | Omilun | hello i have debian 8 with i3wm ... i have a problem to laptop sound . i had alsa but i has too much problems and i removed it and i installed again . now i my laptop dont have any sounds . my laptop is thinkpad t430s |
| 16:48.58 | deez | jml2: Did you read my pastebin link? |
| 16:48.59 | abrotman | judd: file nm-cli |
| 16:49.08 | deez | Of course I can access localhost from my machine. |
| 16:49.14 | jml2 | abrotman, i assumed he had gui to setup the wifi, he didn't even do this, so there's no existing profiles |
| 16:49.24 | jelly | JustinHitla: there are three 's' characters in there, each denotes a different thing. The first one roughly does what you think it does. |
| 16:49.24 | abrotman | Right .. not surprised |
| 16:49.26 | judd | No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 16:49.30 | JustinHitla | anyone ? |
| 16:49.33 | ChrisH | deez: you want to connect from you Lapyop onto server.example.com via ssh. and then only from server.example.com back to laptop:8080 or from any host in example.com back to laptop:8080? |
| 16:49.42 | warsoul | jmls ifconfig -a there is no wlan0 |
| 16:49.45 | jml2 | (btw command nmcli -- not sure what is nm-cli) |
| 16:49.52 | abrotman | sorry, it is nmcli |
| 16:50.13 | JustinHitla | really |
| 16:50.15 | deez | ChrisH: Yes, there is only one server on that domain. |
| 16:50.55 | deez | I want to run the server on local machine (localhost:8080) - connect to example.com via ssh - and be able to access server on local machine localhost:8080 |
| 16:50.56 | warsoul | jml2 |
| 16:50.58 | warsoul | what can i do |
| 16:51.15 | deez | warsoul: write a wpa-supplicant.conf |
| 16:51.32 | jelly | JustinHitla: read /msg dpkg permissions |
| 16:51.41 | jml2 | deez, i see no pastelink |
| 16:51.52 | deez | jml2: http://pastebin.com/raw/m0Har9rq |
| 16:51.56 | ChrisH | deez: given that you do not need GatewayPorts true |
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| 16:52.38 | warsoul | deez after i write it what do i do |
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| 16:52.43 | deez | ChrisH: It wouldnt work before i added it, either, so I tried when I came across the tidbit:P |
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| 16:53.12 | deez | warsoul: something like wpa-supplicant -Bi wlan0 -c wpa-supplicant.conf |
| 16:53.45 | JustinHitla | is it so complicated to answer yes or no ? |
| 16:54.29 | jelly | yes |
| 16:54.56 | jelly | JustinHitla: what is your native language? |
| 16:55.21 | jml2 | deez, if you're doing that, then you're talking about 3 computers |
| 16:55.46 | warsoul | deez after i write it what do i do |
| 16:55.54 | chachasmooth | i stumbled across "gbp buildpackage -S", what does the "-S" stand for? |
| 16:56.09 | greycat | read the man page |
| 16:56.20 | deez | warsoul i already said: wpa-supplicant -Bi wlan0 -c wpa-supplicant.conf |
| 16:56.35 | deez | do i? |
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| 16:57.01 | ChrisH | deez: I prefer writing these commands into ~/.ssh/config ; and I might need to change my word about gatewayports |
| 16:57.18 | deez | jml2: I thought the pastebin was rather straight forward |
| 16:57.21 | deez | ChrisH: ? |
| 16:57.49 | chachasmooth | greycat man page doesn't mention -S |
| 16:57.49 | Devastator | good afternoon, yesterday I started installing Debian 8.4 on a computer to learn to use KVM, I've finished the installation of the host, created one VG for the host (having /, /home and swap), one VG for the VMs, is this correct or would be better to have one VG per VM? assuming I did it right, I've then installed qemu-kvm and libvirt-bin, what would be the next step to set VG for VMs as storage |
| 16:57.49 | Devastator | pool? |
| 16:57.59 | warsoul | deez what do i do in *.conf |
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| 16:58.02 | warsoul | blank? |
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| 16:58.07 | deez | lol |
| 16:58.08 | deez | hold on |
| 16:58.16 | deez | i dont remember the syntax exactly |
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| 16:59.01 | warsoul | wpa-supplicant command not found |
| 16:59.22 | Devastator | it seems that both #kvm and #qemu are kind of quiet.. I don't know if it's their preferable way of getting help anyway.. |
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| 17:02.07 | deez | warsoul: try wpa_supplicant |
| 17:02.09 | deez | also |
| 17:02.21 | deez | a very basic conf - http://pastebin.com/8i3sWdJx |
| 17:02.31 | ChrisH | deez: No need to set 'GatewayPorts yes' Tested it here and ssh -vR 12325:localhost:25 remote-server opens local smtp port as 12325 on remote-server, accessible for 127.0.0.1:12325 only |
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| 17:03.08 | deez | ChrisH: Thank you for doing all that to help me. I will try that. |
| 17:03.55 | greycat | GatewayPorts for a reverse tunnel allows other machines to connect to it (i.e. the tunnel will listen on * instead of listening only on loopback) |
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| 17:04.40 | jml2 | deez, if you dont set it up properly, it's a public connection to the internet |
| 17:05.21 | jml2 | deez, i suppose port 13000 is defaulting to 'localhost' on example.org |
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| 17:06.21 | deez | Damn, it still doesn't work how I expected it to. |
| 17:06.24 | NeilHanlon | is about to upgrade to the latest kernel from jessie-backports |
| 17:06.26 | NeilHanlon | is scared |
| 17:06.46 | warsoul | graycat could i download the files to a cd |
| 17:06.55 | warsoul | and install it ? |
| 17:07.00 | lok | ow to check any communication protocol ; what should be the test set up minimum? |
| 17:07.03 | deez | warsoul: did it work? |
| 17:07.04 | lok | *how |
| 17:07.30 | jml2 | deez, if you're trying a "bindaddress" for the remote, then you need to specify it, otherwise it defaults to 'localhost' on example.org |
| 17:07.36 | jml2 | deez, (-R ) |
| 17:07.44 | warsoul | deez wpa_supplicant command not found |
| 17:07.51 | greycat | lok: you have to be rather more specific about what you are testing |
| 17:08.00 | jml2 | deez, that could be dangerous if you're not careful, it'd be available for all public |
| 17:08.23 | deez | warsoul: are you root? |
| 17:08.24 | deez | lol |
| 17:08.26 | lok | greycat: i would like to try now modbus protocol |
| 17:08.33 | warsoul | deez yes |
| 17:08.39 | ChrisH | NeilHanlon: If the new kernel does not boot or work properly, just boot the old one. That is the upgrade with minimal risk. |
| 17:08.42 | deez | jml2: It won't even work for me, lol. |
| 17:08.44 | greycat | !modbus |
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| 17:08.52 | greycat | No, sorry, I don't know either. |
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| 17:09.15 | lok | ok |
| 17:09.17 | JustinHitla | greycat: you that bash guru guy ? |
| 17:09.32 | deez | warsoul: That's strange, every base system install I've done comes with wpa_supplicant. |
| 17:09.48 | greycat | JustinHitla: you're one more irrelevant personal question away from /ignore |
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| 17:10.00 | lok | why one protocol is used over another? |
| 17:10.05 | lok | have you heard bluetooth over ethernet kind of terms? |
| 17:10.09 | jml2 | JustinHitla, did you check that manpage, it's pretty good |
| 17:10.12 | jml2 | JustinHitla, for start |
| 17:10.35 | greycat | Ethernet is a physical network using wires. |
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| 17:10.54 | warsoul | greycat what could be the problem |
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| 17:10.58 | jml2 | uses redtooth |
| 17:10.58 | warsoul | my ethernet is not working? |
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| 17:11.27 | lok | so what ? greycat |
| 17:11.36 | lok | can you elaborate? |
| 17:11.41 | greycat | And bluetooth is not. So you cannot compare the two. |
| 17:11.58 | MaBunny | Hey...im srry for directly naming you but themill wht did you said b4 can you repeat tht again??? |
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| 17:12.53 | MaBunny | Srry for bad english |
| 17:13.03 | sbine | MaBunny: Retry that! |
| 17:13.07 | sbine | !ifrp |
| 17:13.07 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 17:13.19 | MaBunny | Ok |
| 17:13.34 | lok | how to establish bluetooth over ethernet? is it making sense? |
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| 17:13.39 | greycat | No. |
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| 17:14.03 | jml2 | lok, i heard redtooth can work over the ethernet |
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| 17:14.29 | jml2 | lok, there's a special way to make bluetooth to behave like redtooth |
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| 17:17.47 | deez | Unfortunately, I can't get it working. Thank you for all of your help, ChrisH, jml2. |
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| 17:18.02 | warsoul | help! |
| 17:18.24 | TomTomTosch | !tell warsoul about ask |
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| 17:18.46 | greycat | TomTomTosch: good luck with this one. |
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| 17:18.57 | warsoul | could someone help me out connect wifi in terminal |
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| 17:19.25 | abrotman | warsoul: you were told the command to use |
| 17:19.32 | warsoul | abrotman is not working |
| 17:19.35 | warsoul | command not found |
| 17:20.00 | abrotman | warsoul: then install it |
| 17:20.08 | abrotman | not rocket science .. that's how linux works |
| 17:20.21 | greycat | He's got no working X, no working ethernet/DHCP, and no working wireless. |
| 17:20.30 | abrotman | Rube? |
| 17:20.38 | greycat | Long ago I started to suspect this is an elaborate social experiment/troll. |
| 17:20.43 | abrotman | Get installation media that has the packages you need |
| 17:20.55 | jml2 | greycat, social experiment, that's interesting.. |
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| 17:21.10 | jml2 | rips a banana and feed a monkey |
| 17:21.20 | MaBunny | Sbine tht didnt work |
| 17:21.42 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: what didn't work? |
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| 17:21.59 | TomTomTosch | this is like 5th grade. answer the W-questions please. |
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| 17:22.12 | jml2 | warsoul, http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/video/medium-shot-baboon-pounding-on-laptop-keyboard-stock-video-footage/712-54 |
| 17:22.13 | jml2 | :) |
| 17:22.17 | LostSoul | Hi |
| 17:22.18 | styks1987 | how do you auto remount a directory mounted by $ mount src dest |
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| 17:22.22 | jml2 | LostSoul, hi! |
| 17:22.25 | abrotman | jml2: no need to troll him .. |
| 17:22.35 | styks1987 | on restart |
| 17:22.36 | MaBunny | It made me into the same situation again ....fsck didnt work....disk only writable |
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| 17:22.49 | MaBunny | Same black screen |
| 17:22.53 | jml2 | abrotman, still its a cute monkey |
| 17:22.54 | greycat | styks1987: you mean at boot time? Add a line in /etc/fstab |
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| 17:23.03 | warsoul | thanks jml2 |
| 17:23.09 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: did you try a clean install again and change something in the mount options? |
| 17:23.17 | MaBunny | No |
| 17:23.17 | styks1987 | greycat: thanks |
| 17:23.32 | MaBunny | I did nothing to the root files |
| 17:24.01 | LostSoul | Is there chance to do sub search in nss_base_passwd ? |
| 17:24.08 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: so you were able to boot into the shell? |
| 17:24.27 | MaBunny | Yes...but it doesnt work |
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| 17:24.41 | LostSoul | Like when I want to check if user is memberof=XXX or member of subgroups of that group? |
| 17:24.50 | MaBunny | It takes me to the step b4 the login screen option |
| 17:25.09 | MaBunny | The tty1 loading option |
| 17:25.12 | styks1987 | greycat: any way to test that without restarting? |
| 17:25.16 | MaBunny | Idk |
| 17:25.26 | greycat | styks1987: mount /dest |
| 17:25.31 | greycat | or mount -a |
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| 17:26.13 | MaBunny | I went to the busybox site...there it has a similar thing tht im facing now |
| 17:26.34 | MaBunny | And i did wht it says to do but |
| 17:27.24 | MaBunny | Im also having another trouble...my disk is only readable by some darn thing/way....idk |
| 17:28.38 | MaBunny | TomTomTosch can you say a command to chnge disks permissions...i mean making it writable |
| 17:29.15 | warsoul | so no one is able to help me fix the problem? |
| 17:29.19 | jhutchins | !doesn't work |
| 17:29.20 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 17:29.28 | jml2 | MaBunny, cant |
| 17:29.44 | greycat | warsoul: abrotman gave you the next step in the progression: manually download a shitload of .deb files to removable media and physically carry them over. |
| 17:29.44 | jml2 | MaBunny, you use mkdir somedir, and set the chmod/chown on it for a user |
| 17:29.51 | styks1987 | greycat: super, however when I do the mount manually, the SOURCE looks like this /dev/sda[/some/directory] and that doesnât work in the fstab. Do you know how that translates into that file? |
| 17:30.06 | jml2 | MaBunny, ext2/3/4 the same, the root folder of the filesystem is not rw for users |
| 17:30.15 | greycat | styks1987: what? What is the REAL, ACTUAL thing you are typing? |
| 17:30.23 | jhutchins | styks1987: You might want to read the "mount" manpage. |
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| 17:30.41 | MaBunny | Well i want to make /dev/sda1 writable again |
| 17:30.43 | warsoul | greycat ok what should i download for the video |
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| 17:31.11 | MaBunny | It says tht partition is only readable n its the root partition |
| 17:31.13 | styks1987 | greycat: mount --bind /dest/dir /src/dir |
| 17:31.16 | greycat | warsoul: the xserver-xorg-video-intel package from the jessie-backports location |
| 17:31.26 | greycat | styks1987: I cannot help you with bind mounts. |
| 17:31.27 | warsoul | ok |
| 17:32.00 | jhutchins | styks1987: I would suggest booting to a live CD and doing fsck with the partition not mounted. |
| 17:32.14 | MaBunny | I mean...chmod works on files,does it work on partitions??? |
| 17:32.20 | jhutchins | CD|ISO/flash |
| 17:32.28 | jml2 | MaBunny, "man intro" |
| 17:32.37 | jhutchins | MaBunny: Not really. |
| 17:32.48 | styks1987 | jhutchins: this is for a jailed sftp account on a server. the files they need access to are outside their home directory |
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| 17:33.08 | greycat | warsoul: also, keep in mind THIS IS ALL JUST A SHOT IN THE DARK and I have no idea why your machine is actually freezing up. |
| 17:33.13 | LostSoul | Any ideas? |
| 17:33.25 | greycat | warsoul: the jessie-backports driver MIGHT or MIGHT NOT make any difference. |
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| 17:33.37 | greycat | It was supposed to be a quick, easy thing to try. |
| 17:33.39 | jelly | styks1987: mind you, mount --bind is not ln, the syntax is source first then destination mount point after |
| 17:33.51 | greycat | It was not supposed to lead to three hours of agony because your machine is un-networked. |
| 17:33.53 | MaBunny | Wait...i had explained this on #linux but i dont hav /usr/man in my root filesystem...i mean typing man says tht its not available |
| 17:34.23 | jhutchins | styks1987: You don't mount directories, you mount devices (partitions). |
| 17:34.34 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: you did this? 'mount -o remount,ro /' |
| 17:34.44 | MaBunny | No but wait |
| 17:34.49 | jelly | there's more! |
| 17:34.57 | fuzzy-logic | lol |
| 17:34.59 | greycat | operators are standing by |
| 17:35.03 | jhutchins | styks1987: Files outside of /home/<user> are often managed using group permissions and membership. |
| 17:35.04 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: because this will mount your filesystem read only :3 |
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| 17:35.14 | warsoul | graycat i cant find xserver-xorg-video-intel package |
| 17:35.15 | MaBunny | Haha |
| 17:35.34 | MaBunny | I tried mount -o remount,rw / |
| 17:35.37 | MaBunny | B4 |
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| 17:36.06 | MaBunny | But i did wht you said now :3 |
| 17:36.34 | jhutchins | ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 17:36.35 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1; sid: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1 |
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| 17:36.44 | prussian | why are you mounting root only? |
| 17:36.50 | prussian | something wrong? |
| 17:36.54 | jml2 | MaBunny, if the / mountpoint is "read-only" you should do an e2fsck on it when it sets it to read-only, then do a remount rw |
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| 17:37.18 | MaBunny | Well can you say the command pls |
| 17:37.31 | MaBunny | I seriously dont hav man |
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| 17:37.52 | jhutchins | MaBunny: You can find man pages on the internet. |
| 17:38.07 | MaBunny | Ok thn |
| 17:38.23 | MaBunny | Ill try :-) |
| 17:38.29 | TomTomTosch | you find man in /usr/bin/man you don't have the path set. |
| 17:38.57 | sbine | jhutchins: He's on a phone, that doesn't help him much |
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| 17:39.18 | MaBunny | No i can find thm on internet more easily ;) |
| 17:39.23 | fuzzy-logic | MaBunny: please, just do as jml2 told you ^^. |
| 17:39.40 | MaBunny | Yes...ok im off on my search |
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| 17:40.40 | jhutchins | MaBunny: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
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| 17:41.11 | joe__ | !ssb |
| 17:41.12 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 17:41.17 | MaBunny | Ok thnx jhutchins |
| 17:41.20 | MaBunny | :) |
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| 17:41.53 | jhutchins | MaBunny: It's pretty broad, but it gives good in-depth info on various aspects of managing the system. |
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| 17:42.41 | MaBunny | Ok...either tht or google i guess...but thnx :-) |
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| 17:47.08 | Akuw | what applications are there to access server using webdav protocol? |
| 17:47.28 | jml2 | Akuw, i think cadaver is one, it can be used for testing |
| 17:47.30 | greycat | Web browsers, usually. |
| 17:48.04 | iamwhoiam | hello people. I am checking certain technical details of package managers of different distros. The details are mainly: which algorithms are used, heuristics, methods (like sat solving by suse), properties (soundness/completeness) etc. I checked the documentation for apt (should I say dpkg?) and I found a "paper" from 2006 stating that debian (and debian-based distros I suppose) use a best-first search approach with a problem-specific |
| 17:48.04 | iamwhoiam | heuristic, which leads to fast solutions but it is not complete (and perhaps not sound in certain cases either?). Has package management changed since then? Am I missing some development or misunderstood some property? Thanks. |
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| 17:48.32 | Akuw | what about filezilla? don't support webdav? |
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| 17:48.59 | greycat | I don't know. You can try. |
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| 17:49.22 | MaBunny | Jhutchins one question....the manuel says tht sysvinit is a type of init... |
| 17:49.49 | MaBunny | But here in my system its written initramfs |
| 17:49.50 | warsoul | graycat https://packages.debian.org/sid/x11/xserver-xorg-video-intel |
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| 17:49.55 | warsoul | what package should i download |
| 17:50.00 | greycat | NOT SID |
| 17:50.09 | greycat | !pool |
| 17:50.09 | dpkg | [pool] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/1999/10/msg00052.html (proposal) and http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives#s-pools |
| 17:50.19 | MaBunny | Are both for the same purpose??? |
| 17:50.38 | greycat | Go to the mirror of your choice, go to the pool, find the package version that jessie-backports would have used, NOT SID, NOT STRETCH, NOT UNSTABLE, NOT TESTING. |
| 17:51.03 | bezaban | iamwhoiam: are you writing a paper? I'd like to see that. I'm afraid I have no information, but it sounds like it might be a better question for a mailing list :) |
| 17:51.09 | greycat | ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 17:51.10 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1; sid: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1 |
| 17:51.17 | greycat | You want version 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1 |
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| 17:53.13 | warsoul | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/x11/xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 17:53.14 | warsoul | here? |
| 17:53.22 | greycat | Stop going to packages.debian.org. |
| 17:53.28 | greycat | Go to the mirror site directly. |
| 17:53.38 | warsoul | ftp.debian.org? |
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| 17:53.55 | greycat | I don't know if that is a valid mirror site. |
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| 17:54.17 | warsoul | where can i find the mirror site |
| 17:54.22 | greycat | !mirrors |
| 17:54.22 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <httpredir.debian.org>, <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <ftpsync>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:54.34 | greycat | THIS IS WHY WE DON'T DO IT THIS WAY |
| 17:54.44 | iamwhoiam | bezaban: well, yes. :) |
| 17:54.45 | Akuw | there is some gui app to webdav ? |
| 17:55.11 | greycat | Akuw: last one I ever attempted to use was called Mozilla. |
| 17:55.13 | iamwhoiam | bezaban: mainly, the idea is that sometimes it is better to pay a computational cost but quarantee a stable system |
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| 17:56.11 | warsoul | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ |
| 17:56.19 | greycat | Right, that's a mirror. |
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| 17:56.42 | teraflops | Akuw: whats wrong with cadaver or just curl? that said you can use any file browser with dav capabilities, like nautilus or caja |
| 17:56.48 | iamwhoiam | bezaban: but in order to compare either I must talk to the developers or check the code. In general, I prefer leaving the code as the last option - especially since the debian package manager is only one out of 3-4-5 package managers to be checked in terms of properties. |
| 17:57.00 | Akuw | firefox? |
| 17:57.03 | warsoul | greycat but i cant find it |
| 17:57.14 | greycat | You didn't try long enough. |
| 17:57.15 | Skyrider | Does the installer of debian have a minimal version? |
| 17:57.21 | Akuw | i did connect but how to see file permission with cadaver? |
| 17:57.27 | Skyrider | If you by any chance, got a iso with a live demo on it. |
| 17:57.28 | greycat | Skyrider: sure, just uncheck everything in the final screen (tasksel) |
| 17:57.29 | warsoul | version 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1 |
| 17:57.33 | warsoul | looking everywhere |
| 17:57.37 | greycat | In the pool. |
| 17:57.37 | Skyrider | Sweet, thanks. Saves me time. |
| 17:57.41 | lesta | Akuw: try davfs2, very handy but read the manual first or google how to connect |
| 17:58.04 | teraflops | Akuw: you want to know the permissions? did you set up the dav thing? |
| 17:58.18 | warsoul | long libraries |
| 17:58.18 | greycat | If i wanted to know the permissions I would ssh to the web server. |
| 17:58.26 | Akuw | the file permissions on server where i am connecting to |
| 17:58.28 | teraflops | heh yeah ls -la :P |
| 17:58.33 | Akuw | using ls |
| 17:58.50 | Akuw | 404 Not Found |
| 17:58.56 | Akuw | i can do only ls |
| 17:59.02 | Akuw | can't use ls -la |
| 17:59.07 | greycat | what the FUCK are you talking about |
| 17:59.11 | teraflops | Akuw: again, did you setup the sac thing? |
| 17:59.17 | teraflops | dav* |
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| 17:59.29 | bezaban | iamwhoiam: yeah, I understand. Very interesting indeed. Still I'd try the mailing lists, since you really need to hit the right people. There are also good debian channels on irc.oftc.net / irc.debian.org |
| 17:59.36 | greycat | Are you not ssh'ed to the server? Are you accessing it through an SFTP client or some such nonsense? |
| 18:00.10 | bezaban | iamwhoiam: latter is an alias for the first |
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| 18:00.29 | Akuw | Listing collection `/': succeeded. |
| 18:00.35 | Akuw | when do ls |
| 18:00.43 | greycat | IN WHAT SHELL |
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| 18:01.01 | greycat | How are you connecting to the web server? |
| 18:01.11 | Akuw | yes |
| 18:01.17 | markybob | jesus |
| 18:01.20 | bezaban | blinks |
| 18:01.20 | Akuw | i am listing server content |
| 18:01.30 | teraflops | Akuw: I assume you didn't setup the dav yourself and youre only a user. are yoy trying to troubleshoot an issue? |
| 18:01.37 | teraflops | you* |
| 18:01.47 | Akuw | i just need to upload site files |
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| 18:01.57 | Akuw | i am not the administrator of that server |
| 18:01.58 | teraflops | and you cant? |
| 18:02.00 | greycat | What is a "site file"? |
| 18:02.15 | Akuw | but i need to check file permission |
| 18:02.17 | greycat | What did the administrator say when you reported the problem? |
| 18:02.55 | teraflops | so you cant? this is not up to you. go tell the admin you cannot upload files :P |
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| 18:03.16 | Akuw | well they want i use Bitkinex |
| 18:03.30 | Akuw | i check web page but only for mac and win |
| 18:04.03 | teraflops | i have no idea what are you talking about right now |
| 18:04.17 | greycat | I think that's the name of some Windows program that they told him to use. |
| 18:04.34 | teraflops | well dav is dav ... |
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| 18:05.29 | Akuw | is an application man |
| 18:05.44 | warsoul | xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.99.917-2~bpo8+1_amd6 |
| 18:05.51 | Devastator | jelly do you happen to use KVM? :) |
| 18:05.55 | warsoul | that one greycat? |
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| 18:06.02 | teraflops | Akuw: that's fine, but this is a debian linux support channel |
| 18:06.10 | Akuw | yes i know |
| 18:06.26 | Akuw | for that reason i asked about software for linux |
| 18:06.38 | greycat | warsoul: looks promising, assuming you have an amd64 installation |
| 18:07.16 | warsoul | or this |
| 18:07.20 | teraflops | yeah cadaver, curl, file browser with dav support, davfs2 ... |
| 18:07.22 | warsoul | xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.99.917-2~bpo8+1.dsc |
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| 18:08.01 | warsoul | i installed debian amd64 |
| 18:08.24 | teraflops | Akuw: I missed the error youre getting though, you just asked for listing permission, this is not something you can change from the client side |
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| 18:08.36 | Akuw | ok |
| 18:08.39 | Akuw | now i know |
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| 18:08.50 | Akuw | i have to install some gui shit then |
| 18:08.54 | teraflops | why |
| 18:09.02 | markybob | you have to call your admin |
| 18:09.32 | teraflops | Akuw: anyway this is frustrating so I'm bailing on this one |
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| 18:09.36 | iamwhoiam | bezaban: thanks for your help! |
| 18:09.52 | Akuw | anyway thanks |
| 18:09.56 | teraflops | np |
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| 18:10.03 | Akuw | i really like to use ssh |
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| 18:10.12 | Akuw | or filezilla |
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| 18:10.19 | BinBasher | ,v postgresql |
| 18:10.20 | judd | Package: postgresql on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 8.4.20-0squeeze1; squeeze: 8.4.21-0squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 8.4.22lts6-0+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 9.1+134wheezy4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 9.1+134wheezy4; wheezy-backports: 9.4+165+deb8u1~bpo7+1; jessie: 9.4+165+deb8u1; stretch: 9.5+173; sid: 9.5+173 |
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| 18:10.43 | bezaban | iamwhoiam: good luck! :) |
| 18:11.20 | jelly | Devastator: not really |
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| 18:12.51 | warsoul | greycat now i have it on a cd |
| 18:13.00 | warsoul | whats the line i have to put in sources |
| 18:13.08 | greycat | I hope it's a rewritable. |
| 18:13.19 | warsoul | yes it is |
| 18:13.25 | greycat | For a single package, you don't use sources.list. Just mount the cd and use dpkg -i on the package file. |
| 18:13.55 | greycat | If it depends on X stuff that isn't installed at all, this is going to get WAY more painful. |
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| 18:14.56 | warsoul | greycat cd is mount |
| 18:15.06 | warsoul | now dpkg -i |
| 18:15.07 | warsoul | ? |
| 18:15.25 | Devastator | jelly I've been asking here, in #kvm and in #qemu and got no answer, as you are more experienced than me, would you recommend me to use a mailing list instead? |
| 18:16.09 | jelly | Devastator: you're asking the wrong person about kvm |
| 18:16.31 | warsoul | greycat now how do i install what i have on the cd |
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| 18:16.46 | greycat | I already said what to do. You already confirmed that you read it. |
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| 18:17.17 | warsoul | For a single package, you don't use sources.list. Just mount the cd and use dpkg -i on the package file. |
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| 18:18.20 | Devastator | jelly yeah, too bad.. you are always helpful when you know about the issue :( |
| 18:18.37 | warsoul | when i type dpkg -i it says |
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| 18:18.58 | warsoul | dpkg: error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument |
| 18:18.58 | dpkg | warsoul: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 18:19.57 | jelly | !ask |
| 18:19.57 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:19.59 | greycat | If you can't even figure out what "use dpkg -i on the package file" means, .... |
| 18:20.07 | jelly | > Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. |
| 18:20.26 | warsoul | jelly could you help me out |
| 18:20.30 | jelly | sigh |
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| 18:20.40 | warsoul | to install what i have on the cd |
| 18:20.54 | greycat | -i wants a filename argument. dpkg -i filename |
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| 18:22.30 | warsoul | greycat no such file or directory |
| 18:22.35 | warsoul | should i cd on cdrom? |
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| 18:23.29 | greycat | I'm done. This is enough. He's trolling or he's unhelpable. |
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| 18:23.52 | jelly | $5 says it's the latter |
| 18:24.05 | greycat | If he's trolling he's *VERY* good at it. |
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| 18:24.20 | greycat | Sadly, such people exist. |
| 18:24.49 | warsoul | greycat where you born knowing everything? |
| 18:24.50 | iwhb4u | I don't know my administrator account username |
| 18:25.04 | iwhb4u | i've just installed it and it asked me to provide a password |
| 18:25.11 | jmcnaught | Devastator: hey. are you using virt-manager? |
| 18:25.17 | jelly | iwhb4u: just installed what? |
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| 18:25.26 | iwhb4u | i did, the thing is i didn't provided me a username |
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| 18:25.33 | iwhb4u | it's debian 4 |
| 18:25.40 | jelly | 4?? |
| 18:25.44 | iwhb4u | yes |
| 18:25.52 | jelly | where did you find that |
| 18:26.03 | iwhb4u | in my locker |
| 18:26.10 | greycat | You're installing Debian 4, why? And you're installing Debian 4 without knowing how the superuser account works, why? |
| 18:26.17 | iwhb4u | inside my locker from 6 years ago |
| 18:26.26 | jelly | iwhb4u: can I ask what is the purpose of this exercise |
| 18:26.30 | iwhb4u | my computer is not the newest |
| 18:26.31 | Omilun | hi guys . i am using i3wn on debian 8 . my laptop dont have sound . how can i fix it? it is information of my alsa :http://dpaste.com/26H1C5A |
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| 18:26.43 | iwhb4u | my hardware doesnt support new OS's |
| 18:26.44 | warsoul | jelly could you help me out please |
| 18:26.55 | jelly | iwhb4u: which computer is it |
| 18:27.04 | iwhb4u | an HP, let me check |
| 18:27.13 | jelly | cpu? year of build? |
| 18:27.20 | iwhb4u | VAIO |
| 18:27.36 | user___ | Hey everyone, I printed a test page today. Everything looks okay except there's no bottom border. |
| 18:27.50 | jelly | warsoul: I could, but I'm tired, my patience is thin and I would not do it for free. |
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| 18:28.07 | greycat | Isn't VAIO a Sony model? |
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| 18:28.20 | jelly | iwhb4u: provide the exact brand and model, for a start |
| 18:28.25 | iwhb4u | yes, it's a SONY, the HP is another one |
| 18:28.40 | iwhb4u | i have two old computers |
| 18:28.53 | prussian | did you set a root password iwhb4u ? |
| 18:28.54 | jelly | !release history |
| 18:28.55 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after "Toy Story" characters. Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06), Wheezy(7; 2013-05-04), Jessie(8; 2015-04-25). The next release will be Stretch. http://deb.li/it56U |
| 18:29.01 | jelly | Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08) |
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| 18:29.23 | jelly | crosses the line from "horribly old" into "why would you even" |
| 18:29.31 | Omilun | hi guys . i am using i3wn on debian 8 . my laptop dont have sound . how can i fix it? it is information of my alsa :http://dpaste.com/26H1C5A |
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| 18:31.58 | prussian | are you using pulseaudio as well Omilun ? |
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| 18:32.46 | greycat | Apparently the VAIO is more of a sub-brand than a model. Too vague. Cannot get specs from that name alone. |
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| 18:33.19 | iwhb4u | nevermind, i think i've got it |
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| 18:33.30 | warsoul | greycat could you please just tell me how to install this package from cd i will figure it out the rest |
| 18:33.45 | LtL | warsoul: am i correct, you have a *.deb file on cd that you want to install? |
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| 18:35.35 | Devastator | jmcnaught currently I'm trying to make sure what I did so far is correct, meaning: I've finished the installation of the host, created one VG for the host (having /, /home and swap), one VG for the VMs, is this correct or would be better to have one VG per VM? assuming I did it right, I've then installed qemu-kvm and libvirt-bin, what would be the next step to set VG for VMs as storage pool? |
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| 18:36.53 | iwhb4u | Wow! i remember things i learned almost 20 years ago!! vi commands!! :D |
| 18:37.14 | greycat | good |
| 18:37.23 | iwhb4u | or, maybe linux is the best!! |
| 18:37.31 | prussian | warsoul: dpkg -i /path/to/your/deb |
| 18:38.54 | jmcnaught | Devastator: one VG for all VMs is fine. Each VM will get an LV to use as its virtual disk. If you're using the virt-manager GUI you can select the localhost (QEMU) connection, go to Edit > Connection Details. On the storage tab find the '+' button, give it a name, select type "logical". On the next screen enter the path to your VG in target path (leave source path blank, build pool unchecked) |
| 18:38.56 | Omilun | prussian: yes i have it ... |
| 18:39.31 | Omilun | prussian: is it my problem ? |
| 18:39.43 | warsoul | LtL exactly |
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| 18:39.59 | jmcnaught | Devastator: http://libvirt.org/storage.html documents libvirt storage pool types. If you're using "virsh" the command "help pool" for a list of pool related commands |
| 18:40.29 | LtL | warsoul: read what prussian said, dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb |
| 18:41.12 | LtL | warsoul: probably something like dpkg -i /media/cdrom0/dir/file.deb -- hit enter |
| 18:41.31 | greycat | I strongly suggest tab-completing the filename. |
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| 18:41.45 | warsoul | greycat what? |
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| 18:41.52 | Omilun | prussian: should i remove that? |
| 18:42.05 | LtL | warsoul: yes, tab-completion is your friend |
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| 18:42.44 | lok | is it possible to test/try protocols using device drivers/drivers any? |
| 18:42.47 | jmcnaught | Omilun: pulseaudio solves more problems than it causes these days, at least for most people. have you tried pavucontrol? |
| 18:42.47 | warsoul | is not working |
| 18:42.47 | warsoul | none of the commands |
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| 18:43.02 | jelly | so... info coreutils 'File Permissions' does not work on jessie any more, but a mere info 'File Permissions' works again (after a couple releases and info versions with broken index) |
| 18:43.23 | iwhb4u | is there a hardware detector? Debian didn't installed the driver for my TP Link WiFi adapter. |
| 18:43.38 | warsoul | greycat if i write a line in sources |
| 18:43.40 | LtL | warsoul: when you type the first few unique characters and hit <tab> it will complete the path/file, this applies to terminal CLI interface only |
| 18:43.42 | jelly | iwhb4u: how old is your hardware? |
| 18:44.04 | greycat | I very much doubt anyone here can help you with wireless networking on Etch. |
| 18:44.07 | Omilun | jmcnaught: no i dont have pavucontrol |
| 18:44.31 | warsoul | greycat i just want to be able to startx without freezing |
| 18:44.39 | warsoul | after that i will connect via wifi in desktop |
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| 18:44.45 | jmcnaught | iwhb4u: if you are using Debian 4 from 9 years ago it is quite likely it does not have drivers for a wifi adapter that was probably made after Debian 4 was released. Why are you so sure a current release will not work on your no-model-number hardware? |
| 18:44.49 | LtL | \o/ |
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| 18:45.02 | warsoul | LtL |
| 18:45.12 | warsoul | i should type now cd /path/ |
| 18:45.13 | warsoul | ? |
| 18:45.23 | jelly | iwhb4u: if you pastebin the output of "dmidecode" and "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and "free -m" it may help us suggest how likely it is a newer debian release might work |
| 18:45.25 | greycat | iwhb4u: since Debian is running already, you should be able to get CPU and memory info. Try "free" for memory, and "cat /proc/cpuinfo" for CPU. |
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| 18:45.41 | jmcnaught | Omilun: if pulseaudio is running i would install and try pavucontrol. if pulseaudio is not running, i would add it to the session startup for i3 |
| 18:46.05 | LtL | warsoul: you just described a completely different objective, what exactly are you trying to do |
| 18:46.25 | jelly | LtL: they're trying to upgrade xserver-xorg-video-intel |
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| 18:46.45 | jelly | greycat: you scared it off! |
| 18:46.46 | LtL | warsoul: yes type cd /path/to/your/cdrom whatever the mount point may be |
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| 18:46.52 | corpsegrinder | jmcnaught Add line "exec --no-startup-id pulseaudio" in i3/config/ |
| 18:46.53 | Omilun | jmcnaught: ammm i need to have sound . it is not important to me :D ... how can i fix it? |
| 18:47.20 | warsoul | LtL i type cd /mnt |
| 18:47.25 | jmcnaught | Omilun: my suggestion to use pavucontrol did not work? |
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| 18:47.27 | warsoul | but when i type ls |
| 18:47.30 | warsoul | there is no files |
| 18:47.52 | LtL | warsoul: find the file, copy it to home and cd back home and install it, its the long way but mistake proof almost |
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| 18:48.10 | Omilun | jmcnaught: ok i remove that and install your suggestion |
| 18:48.24 | LtL | warsoul: is the cd mounted? type 'mount' no quotes, do you see the cd |
| 18:48.42 | jmcnaught | Omilun: not sure what you are removing? |
| 18:48.49 | fennesz | Hello ! Can anyone help me connect to laptop via bluetooth from phone . I am using Debian 8 x64 |
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| 18:49.32 | Omilun | jmcnaught: pluseaudio |
| 18:49.41 | LtL | warsoul: by default it probably auto-mounted in /media |
| 18:50.14 | jmcnaught | Omilun: i did not ask you to remove pulseaudio. pavucontrol is the pulseaudio volume control |
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| 18:52.02 | Omilun | jmcnaught: ok i installed it ... and run it |
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| 18:53.51 | warsoul | xserver-xorg is already the newest version. |
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| 18:54.48 | LtL | warsoul: i give up |
| 18:55.13 | jelly | warsoul: what does "COLUMNSdpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel|tail -n 1" say |
| 18:55.18 | jelly | oops |
| 18:55.22 | jelly | warsoul: what does "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel|tail -n 1" say |
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| 18:57.04 | warsoul | jelly |
| 18:57.16 | jelly | warsoul! |
| 18:57.26 | warsoul | dpkg-query: no packages found matching xserver-xorg-intel |
| 18:57.50 | jelly | warsoul: you'll have to be a lot more careful typing in the commands |
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| 18:58.18 | warsoul | jelly could you help me install this package please |
| 18:58.27 | warsoul | is in the cd |
| 18:58.38 | jelly | warsoul: could you follow instructions precisely? |
| 18:58.44 | warsoul | yes |
| 18:58.53 | warsoul | cd is inside |
| 18:58.54 | jelly | then answer my question. |
| 18:58.56 | warsoul | im in terminal |
| 18:59.06 | warsoul | ok |
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| 18:59.47 | warsoul | yes i could follow your instructions |
| 18:59.58 | jelly | the question before that. |
| 19:00.09 | jelly | warsoul: what does "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-intel|tail -n 1" say |
| 19:00.45 | warsoul | dpkg-query: no packages found matching xserver-xorg-intel |
| 19:00.53 | markybob | the answer is no |
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| 19:01.14 | warsoul | thats what it says |
| 19:01.25 | jmcnaught | warsoul: you are removing the word video from the command you are asked to use. please try again. |
| 19:02.35 | jmcnaught | warsoul: i'm not sure anyone here understands the real problem you are having. You cannot get into X and also cannot connect to the internet, so you are trying to install a .deb file from a CD-ROM? |
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| 19:02.58 | jelly | !rube goldberg install |
| 19:02.59 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
| 19:03.06 | warsoul | ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.21.15-2+b2 amd 64 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
| 19:03.16 | warsoul | jelly thats what it says |
| 19:03.42 | jelly | warsoul: so you did not install the newer version of that package yet. |
| 19:03.48 | greycat | Aww, old factoid needs update. |
| 19:04.07 | jelly | ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1 amd64 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
| 19:04.22 | jelly | ^^ would mean you actually managed to upgrade |
| 19:04.53 | jelly | warsoul: can you connect this machine to a wired network and get to internet that way? |
| 19:04.53 | warsoul | whats next? |
| 19:05.01 | warsoul | jelly |
| 19:05.02 | greycat | dpkg, rube goldberg install =~ s/2.6.x kernel on a machine/4.10 kernel on my microwave/ |
| 19:05.02 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 19:05.04 | warsoul | i dont know why |
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| 19:05.11 | warsoul | is connected wired |
| 19:05.15 | warsoul | but is not working |
| 19:05.17 | greycat | The 4.10 will need updating after stretch. |
| 19:05.53 | jelly | warsoul: ok, can you take a phone camera shot of your screen and upload those to, say, imgur.com if need be? |
| 19:05.54 | warsoul | thats why i was trying to connect via wifi |
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| 19:06.06 | warsoul | jelly |
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| 19:06.07 | warsoul | yes |
| 19:06.12 | jelly | warsoul: good. |
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| 19:06.50 | jelly | warsoul: run "ifconfig -a", make a screenshot of that and upload it. Same with "lspci -nn", please |
| 19:06.58 | warsoul | ok |
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| 19:07.24 | jmcnaught | nmtui might work to connect to a network assuming firmwares and network-manager are installed |
| 19:08.31 | HicksD | I'm looking for a way to run a newer version of kstars on jessie than is possible to backport. Is it possible to run a complete gui app in a sid chroot ? are there any downsides to doing so? |
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| 19:10.08 | MaBunny | Im going to sleep...its 1am here...gud nite guys :-) |
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| 19:10.52 | jelly | HicksD: it ought to be possible if the kernel permits |
| 19:11.11 | warsoul | jelly |
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| 19:11.12 | warsoul | done |
| 19:11.13 | jmcnaught | HicksD: that's a good way to do it. take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/Schroot |
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| 19:11.24 | jelly | warsoul: done what? |
| 19:11.32 | warsoul | photo upload |
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| 19:12.22 | jelly | warsoul: you have to post the links to your images here if you want us to have a look |
| 19:12.27 | HicksD | jmcnaught: thanks I'll take a look |
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| 19:13.12 | jmcnaught | HicksD: you can setup chroots that users can start, and that access your regular home directory |
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| 19:14.40 | necr0 | hi guys |
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| 19:16.24 | Len | hello guys |
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| 19:18.14 | user___ | Hi there |
| 19:18.51 | Devastator_ | jmcnaught thanks, virt-manager installed, now I'm figuring out how to start virt-manager as normal user from the console, it says "Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused" and lots of Gtk-CRITICAL errors |
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| 19:19.36 | jmcnaught | Devastator: is your user a member of the libvirt group? |
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| 19:20.51 | warsoul | jelly |
| 19:20.54 | warsoul | https://i.imgur.com/l0hkGjM.jpg |
| 19:21.17 | Devastator | jmcnaught yes |
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| 19:21.40 | Devastator | jmcnaught I guess it isn't related to KVM itself |
| 19:22.40 | jmcnaught | Devastator: what do you mean "from the console"? virt-manager is a gui program you run in X |
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| 19:24.25 | Devastator | jmcnaught yes, but I didn't install X environment, so I'm typing "virt-manager" as normal user from shell prompt (console?!) |
| 19:25.16 | greycat | Is it working? |
| 19:25.33 | jmcnaught | Devastator: oh well.. that's why it isn't working. Install virt-manager on a computer that does have X, and use it to connect to the libvirt/KVM computer |
| 19:25.51 | jmcnaught | Devastator: and/or learn how to use virsh |
| 19:26.04 | LtL | judd: pciid 14e4:4315 |
| 19:26.05 | judd | [14e4:4315] is 'BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4315 http://wiki.debian.org/wl and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
| 19:26.46 | Devastator | jmcnaught if I install X on the server, can I use virt-manager from there instead of another computer? |
| 19:26.48 | LtL | warsoul: by the look of you photo you need a broadcom driver |
| 19:27.04 | greycat | Devastator: obviously yes |
| 19:27.12 | markybob | bcm4312 needs firmware-b43-installer |
| 19:27.19 | Devastator | greycat thank you |
| 19:27.26 | markybob | but that's as involved as i'm gonna get with that mess |
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| 19:29.40 | LtL | warsoul: have you another computer? jessie driver is here: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/kernel/firmware-b43-installer |
| 19:30.07 | greycat | does "installer" imply that it connects to an internet server to download more stuff? |
| 19:30.16 | user___ | autolog_path = ~/Documents/irclogs/$tag/$0.log |
| 19:30.22 | LtL | greycat: actually yes |
| 19:30.23 | user___ | oops wc |
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| 19:35.05 | f31n | hi there, since the last update from samba, i can't connect with any mac on my system, do you know something about that? |
| 19:35.22 | greycat | !jessie samba |
| 19:35.23 | dpkg | A security update in jessie upgrades Samba to 4.2. The NEWS.Debian.gz file has some errors. See <http://bugs.debian.org/820983> for the correct instructions. |
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| 19:35.56 | f31n | greycat: thanks for that |
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| 19:35.57 | jelly | warsoul: okay. now, make sure the wired network is connected. If you run "dhclient eth0 &", and wait 5-10 seconds, do you get an IP address assigned to eth0 and visible when you run "ifconfig -a" again? |
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| 19:36.59 | Devastator | greycat well, I've installed xorg now, but look at the error: http://codepad.org/1fkfAGjW |
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| 19:37.39 | markybob | you're still not in x are you? you just installed it? |
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| 19:37.46 | greycat | 2 fggs@egestor:~$ Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused |
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| 19:38.37 | Len | Guys... I have BIG problem with my debian. I was working on sid (yeah..) everything was fine till moment I did upgrade. Right now sddm is failing at libgl (I'm working on gtx970 with nvidia drivers 358.**) |
| 19:38.44 | Len | Any ideas how can I make my KDE working again? |
| 19:38.48 | greycat | That doesn't *sound* like what you'd expect if it's failing to contact the X server, so I am guessing it means the libvert service. |
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| 19:38.59 | markybob | Len: go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for sid support per /topic |
| 19:39.10 | Len | markybob: kk, thanks |
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| 19:41.08 | greycat | (Or it could be that he's missing both an X server *and* the libvert server.) |
| 19:41.28 | Devastator | greycat hum, I'm following this wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/KVM and it doesn't mention libvirtd, but I guess I need then?! |
| 19:41.35 | markybob | i'm not even sure he answered if he's part of libvirt group to begin with |
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| 19:42.19 | jmcnaught | Devastator: "systemctl status libvirtd" should tell you if it's running. but clearly you need to be in a GUI X session to run GUI X applications |
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| 19:43.19 | user | anyone know how to install MS office on debian? |
| 19:43.34 | afernandez_ | Use Libre Office |
| 19:43.51 | afernandez_ | I do not know if you could use Wine for that |
| 19:44.13 | kalebo | if you use Wine you might need to sacrifice a chicken... |
| 19:44.18 | blind | Probably would not be enjoyable.. |
| 19:44.25 | Devastator | jmcnaught it seems to be running, but it has some errors, do you want to see the output of systemctl status libvirtd? |
| 19:44.26 | warsoul | jelly with dhclient eth0 & i get [1] 758 |
| 19:44.32 | user | work documents (in word) are not always the best to open in Libre |
| 19:44.35 | user | so I need a solution |
| 19:44.41 | jmcnaught | Devastator: sure |
| 19:44.48 | afernandez_ | use windows |
| 19:44.59 | markybob | user: 2010 is the last stable release you can use and you need to buy crossover (codeweavers.com) for that to work well |
| 19:45.07 | jelly | user: depending on how stable you need it to be, you can run windows inside a VM, or buy crossover, or try free wine and winetricks for your ms office version |
| 19:45.09 | f31n | greycat: actually the topic about that is about smb signing, my problem is more like, i can access my smb though windows, but not through mac - any idea about that too? |
| 19:45.13 | user | markybob: thats what I just googled :) |
| 19:45.13 | markybob | user: or use google docs or a vm or a milling ways |
| 19:45.23 | greycat | Not a clue. |
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| 19:45.38 | Devastator | jmcnaught http://codepad.org/itdx47IR |
| 19:45.54 | user | jelly: thanks.. that seems to be the answers I've run into, just seeing if anyone else had personally gone through it |
| 19:46.13 | jak2000 | ho wto enable: 'locate' 'updatedb' bash: command not found |
| 19:46.33 | jelly | user: I've done the first two, got annoyed with crossover and outlook hanging after 3-4 days of uptime |
| 19:46.36 | greycat | jak2000: install the locate package |
| 19:46.57 | jmcnaught | Devastator: "Could not access KVM kernel module: Permission denied" <--- is kvm module loaded? "lsmod | grep kvm". Do you have a virtualization capable processor? |
| 19:47.10 | jak2000 | done |
| 19:47.13 | jak2000 | now updatedb: E: Unable to locate package updatedb |
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| 19:47.31 | blind | jak2000: updatedb is part of the locate package |
| 19:47.39 | user | jelly: guess the best thing to do is to stick with Office Online for now or just switch to windows (I dual boot) |
| 19:47.54 | jelly | user: if you have office365, sure |
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| 19:48.19 | Devastator | jmcnaught http://codepad.org/psOO4tEB and yes, Q6600 have virtualization |
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| 19:48.25 | jelly | if anyone's going to be compatible with ms office it's ms' own cloud service, I guess |
| 19:48.42 | greycat | jelly: you think different versions of Office are compatible with each other? HAHAHAHAHA. |
| 19:49.16 | jak2000 | when i exeute, updatedb command say me these error: "/usr/bin/find: `/var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/blkio.reset_stats': Permission denied" |
| 19:49.31 | jelly | greycat: more compatible than open- or libre- or whatever free crap is ever going to be, yes |
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| 19:49.42 | greycat | jak2000: be root. |
| 19:49.42 | jmcnaught | Devastator: are you going to tell us something crazy like "this is all running inside virtualbox" or something? Does your BIOS/firmware have an option to enable/disable VT-d? |
| 19:50.13 | warsoul | jelly with dhclient eth0 & i get [1] 758 |
| 19:50.40 | jelly | warsoul: ok, did you wait 5-10 seconds and look at ifconfig -a again? |
| 19:51.17 | warsoul | jelly i type it again it came now |
| 19:51.18 | jak2000 | greycat with 'sudo' command not work? |
| 19:51.29 | warsoul | [2] 773 |
| 19:51.36 | greycat | You clearly did not run it with sudo |
| 19:51.38 | warsoul | [1] Done dhclient eth0 |
| 19:52.04 | greycat | Unless something in /var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/ is a special file system that root can't read. |
| 19:52.15 | jelly | warsoul: I did not ask you to run dhclient again. |
| 19:52.22 | jak2000 | greycat same error: with root... |
| 19:52.31 | jak2000 | "/usr/bin/find: `/var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/blkio.reset_stats': Permission denied" |
| 19:52.36 | greycat | jak2000: what insane crazy horrifying file systems do you have mounted? |
| 19:52.46 | jak2000 | debian |
| 19:52.48 | jak2000 | jessie |
| 19:52.52 | greycat | No. What file systems. |
| 19:53.07 | greycat | What is mounted at or near /var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/blkio/ |
| 19:53.19 | jelly | warsoul: I asked to wait a bit, then run "ifconfig -a" again, 18 minutes ago: [21:35] <jelly> warsoul: okay. now, make sure the wired network is connected. If you run "dhclient eth0 &", and wait 5-10 seconds, do you get an IP address assigned to eth0 and visible when you run "ifconfig -a" again? |
| 19:53.19 | warsoul | jelly with ifconfig -a i get eth0 and lo |
| 19:53.40 | warsoul | im not getting no ip |
| 19:54.44 | jmcnaught | jak2000: proxmox? |
| 19:54.44 | jelly | warsoul: ok. What does "ip link show" say? Also "ip addr show" |
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| 19:55.05 | jelly | warsoul: show the complete output in a screenshot again. |
| 19:55.27 | jak2000 | installed debian, and next, proxmox |
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| 19:55.48 | warsoul | the screenshot of ifconfig -a |
| 19:55.49 | warsoul | ? |
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| 19:55.59 | queso | Are there any numbers for how many installs of debian there are for different version? wheezy, jessie, testing, etc? |
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| 19:56.08 | jmcnaught | jak2000: proxmox has its own packages for kernel, lxc, and lots of other core stuff. you need to ask the proxmox channel. |
| 19:56.16 | jelly | jak2000: after you install proxmox, the system you have is so much changed only the proxmox people really know what's going on there |
| 19:56.22 | Devastator | jmcnaught yes, no, it's not virtualbox, motherboard has Virtualization support and it is enabled (Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3), processor is Q6600 |
| 19:56.26 | jelly | !proxmox |
| 19:56.26 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
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| 19:57.17 | jelly | warsoul: no, screenshot of "ip link show" and "ip addr show". But sure you can add "ifconfig -a" as well. |
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| 19:57.45 | jak2000 | then cant fix the problem? |
| 19:57.47 | jak2000 | :( |
| 19:57.56 | warsoul | https://i.imgur.com/32AeVgm.jpg |
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| 19:59.25 | jelly | warsoul: I'm not going to provide further help, since you don't seem to be able to type commands correctly and this is very frustrating. |
| 19:59.33 | jelly | good luck. |
| 19:59.41 | warsoul | https://i.imgur.com/KwJo9pL.jpg |
| 19:59.51 | warsoul | there is the one |
| 20:00.21 | warsoul | ithought the screenshot whats from ifconfig -a |
| 20:00.30 | warsoul | the las link is what you ask |
| 20:00.54 | jelly | sorry, maybe someone else has more patience |
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| 20:01.26 | greycat | jak2000: if this proxmox thing is mounting crazy shit at /var/lib/lxcfs/cgroup/ or whatever, then updatedb can't update it, but that may not be a problem. Just ignore it? Does it cache everything else? |
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| 20:02.01 | warsoul | jelly please |
| 20:02.11 | warsoul | but i screenshot what you told me |
| 20:02.21 | warsoul | 1 minute after i post the link |
| 20:02.58 | jelly | nope, sorry, not even if you paid me |
| 20:03.17 | warsoul | ok |
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| 20:04.06 | warsoul | thanks anyway |
| 20:04.20 | jelly | if you find someone else willing to help, make sure to be VERY precise and follow their instructions carefully and to the letter. |
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| 20:09.29 | warsoul | if i install a debian-kde version |
| 20:09.32 | jmcnaught | Devastator: anything else that could be non-stock, like custom kernel, grsecurity perhaps? |
| 20:09.37 | warsoul | it will happen the samething? |
| 20:09.48 | markybob | warsoul: yes. seriously...install ubuntu |
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| 20:10.39 | warsoul | markybob i installed debian in this same pc im using now |
| 20:10.42 | warsoul | and is working fine |
| 20:10.49 | warsoul | i dont know why this is happening |
| 20:10.50 | warsoul | now |
| 20:11.41 | jmcnaught | warsoul: can you try "nmtui" to start your ethernet connection? you have an ethernet cable plugged in right? |
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| 20:12.31 | warsoul | jmcnaught yes |
| 20:12.33 | warsoul | is plugged |
| 20:12.56 | f31n | greycat: the solution for that is just to add a user with a password, cause the samba version in the lts is 4.2.10 may not got the security update for the badlock fix - smbpasswd -a user fixed the issue; anyway thanks for your help! |
| 20:13.23 | greycat | badlock is the *reason* jessie was version-bumped from 4.1 to 4.2 |
| 20:13.28 | Devastator | jmcnaught it works now hehe |
| 20:13.34 | jmcnaught | Devastator: what was it? |
| 20:13.34 | Devastator | finally! |
| 20:13.37 | warsoul | jmcnaught nmtui command not found |
| 20:13.40 | greycat | normally they would never do that during stable, but apparently samba falls in the same category as bind |
| 20:13.47 | greycat | "too fucking broken to patch" |
| 20:13.54 | Devastator | jmcnaught I installed a newer kernel and forgot to reboot |
| 20:14.02 | LtL | warsoul: what does dmesg say during all of this? |
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| 20:14.09 | Devastator | jmcnaught 4.5 from backports fyi |
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| 20:15.16 | jmcnaught | Devastator: i see. generally i recommend sticking with the stock kernel unless you need a newer one for hardware support or something. anyways now you can either stick to the console and use virsh, or run X and use virt-manager. Note that virt-manager can connect to libvirt running on a different system |
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| 20:15.41 | f31n | greycat: sounds like that xD |
| 20:15.53 | jmcnaught | warsoul: let's keep the support in the channel please |
| 20:16.06 | warsoul | jmcnaught nmtui command not found |
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| 20:17.34 | jmcnaught | warsoul: okay that means network-manager is not installed, too bad. When you run "dhclient eth0" (don't add extra character to the end) what does it say? |
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| 20:18.51 | jmcnaught | warsoul: ahh i see you've moved to OFTC, i'll let you continue there |
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| 20:21.35 | warsoul | jmcnaught dhclient eth0 |
| 20:21.42 | warsoul | _ blinking |
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| 20:21.53 | warsoul | but is not doing nothing |
| 20:22.08 | Devastator | jmcnaught to make my life easier for now I've installed xming and was able to open virt-manager on my computer |
| 20:22.24 | Devastator | which sadly runs crap w7 |
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| 20:23.09 | jmcnaught | Devastator: so do you see a 'localhost (QEMU)'? Double-click on it, go to the storage tab |
| 20:23.19 | warsoul | root@box:/home/warsoul# dhclient eth0 |
| 20:23.24 | warsoul | _ blinking |
| 20:23.27 | warsoul | root@box:/home/warsoul# |
| 20:23.29 | warsoul | again |
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| 20:23.41 | warsoul | it didnt say nothing jmcnaught |
| 20:24.02 | Devastator | jmcnaught done |
| 20:24.28 | jmcnaught | Devastator: there's a '+' button to add a new pool. give it a name, set the type to logical |
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| 20:25.14 | warsoul | jmcnaught are you going to help me? |
| 20:25.22 | jmcnaught | Devastator: for the target path, use the path to the VG. Leave source path and build pool blank (unless you want libvirt to build the VG for you, i'm assuming it was already made) |
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| 20:25.32 | markybob | warsoul: crossposting is against policy. |
| 20:25.47 | markybob | !crosspost |
| 20:25.47 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
| 20:25.52 | markybob | warsoul: so they can take over |
| 20:25.57 | jmcnaught | warsoul: i noticed you moved to OFTC, i'm reluctant to continue here and waste the time of people who might be trying to help you there |
| 20:26.41 | warsoul | jmcnaught i quit from there |
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| 20:27.41 | jmcnaught | warsoul: is this a fresh install, or were things working earlier? |
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| 20:29.19 | warsoul | fresh install |
| 20:29.51 | jmcnaught | warsoul: if you run "dmesg | grep -i firmware" do you see messages about firmwares failing to load? |
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| 20:31.28 | jmcnaught | warsoul: you probably do at least for the broadcom wifi. i'm guessing that your ethernet card also needs a firmware (or it's just not plugged in or something). Reinstalling with the firmware ISO image might be the easiest thing for you to do |
| 20:31.36 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell warsoul about firmware images |
| 20:31.58 | warsoul | ERROR: you must go http://**** and download the correct firmware for this driver version |
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| 20:32.35 | TheFlyingCorpse | oh, so you dont have vendors who download unsigned binaries over http? |
| 20:32.56 | jmcnaught | warsoul: see the message from dpkg for the installer image to use. see https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en for how to put it on a USB stick properly. |
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| 20:33.39 | jmcnaught | TheFlyingCorpse: pardon? |
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| 20:34.28 | TheFlyingCorpse | jmcnaught, it was just a comment. I have 2 vendors who supply us with software on windows that refuse to sign their software because they make an exe on the fly custom PER user for licensing purposes. |
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| 20:34.55 | TheFlyingCorpse | transmitted over http from their webservers |
| 20:34.56 | TheFlyingCorpse | :( |
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| 20:42.12 | AlmAck | hi, what is the best method to install cmake >3.4 on jessie(stable)? |
| 20:42.45 | greycat | simple stretch backport? |
| 20:43.14 | greycat | cmake is the most appalling dung-heap since imake, so who the hell knows what kind of crazy dependences it may have |
| 20:43.21 | markybob | ,checkbackport cmake |
| 20:43.23 | judd | Backporting package cmake in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9.20160114~). |
| 20:43.33 | markybob | that might be tough |
| 20:43.56 | greycat | "It's tough to use so it should be tough to backport!" |
| 20:44.17 | AlmAck | hmm... ok, in this case I have to find an other way to build my custom pkg, change cmake dependency version |
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| 20:46.55 | greycat | ,checkbackport debhelper |
| 20:46.56 | judd | Backporting package debhelper in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.18.0~). |
| 20:47.03 | greycat | AHHHHH, that one. |
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| 20:48.16 | greycat | Oh, no, wait... dpkg-dev isn't tied to dpkg. You can backport that without backporting dpkg. |
| 20:48.35 | jhutchins | I love it when an error message says EXACTLY what to do to fix it - and people still paste it here. |
| 20:48.54 | ryouma | can i rset my keyboad, as if i unplugged it andpluged it backin agai, from th cmman line? |
| 20:49.58 | greycat | You can possibly unload and reload the USB human input modules. |
| 20:50.23 | greycat | That still won't be fully equivalent to a hardware operation. |
| 20:51.34 | jhutchins | Of course, once you've unloaded the input modules, it's rather hard to enter the command to reload them. You might manage to run a detached script. |
| 20:51.53 | jhutchins | ... or do it via ssh. |
| 20:52.08 | ryouma | jhutchins: what comand cve tis? a yo a see,my keybord i droppig lttes. |
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| 20:52.11 | jhutchins | greycat: Maybe some way to re-trigger udev? |
| 20:52.14 | ryouma | covers* |
| 20:52.16 | greycat | I was assuming something like rmmod whatever; sleep 2; modprobe whatever |
| 20:52.25 | greycat | all in the same command |
| 20:52.35 | jhutchins | greycat: Maybe in screen? |
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| 20:52.52 | greycat | I doubt that would matter. |
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| 20:54.48 | AlmAck | greycat: seems complicated to me :-) (arch user) |
| 20:55.02 | greycat | It's a fairly ridiculous question, so yeah. |
| 20:55.22 | greycat | WHY do you want to "reset your keyboard as if unplugging and replugging it, without actually unplugging and replugging it"? |
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| 20:55.53 | jmcnaught | could be a laptop keyboard |
| 20:57.04 | jhutchins | ryouma: Possibly systemctl --user daemon-reload |
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| 21:01.00 | jhutchins | ryouma: It appears that systemd-localed.service manages the keyboard, you could try using systemctl to restart/rescan that. |
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| 21:01.20 | ryouma | jhutchins: i will try that. oddly, although my keyboard is definitely 14:01 *** dethos JOIN |
| 21:01.43 | warsoul | guys just called my services provider |
| 21:01.51 | warsoul | they are coming tomorrow to check out the router |
| 21:01.53 | jhutchins | ryouma: Possibly restart X. |
| 21:02.02 | ryouma | definitely broken, also my xmodmap mappings suddenly stopped working |
| 21:02.05 | warsoul | ethernet is not working with none of the pcs |
| 21:02.50 | greycat | Which xmodmap settings, exactly? |
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| 21:03.03 | greycat | Is it about Multi_key? Entering non-ASCII characters? |
| 21:04.17 | LtL | warsoul: disconnect te router/modem power, everything... wait, reconnect everything, its worth a shot |
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| 21:06.09 | warsoul | LtL already did it |
| 21:06.17 | warsoul | and the provider send some signals |
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| 21:06.21 | warsoul | is not working |
| 21:06.42 | warsoul | with internet connection it will be easier for me and for you guys to help me out |
| 21:07.03 | LtL | warsoul: sorry, i hope they fix it |
| 21:07.08 | warsoul | yeah |
| 21:07.14 | warsoul | they are coming tomorrow at 1pm |
| 21:08.25 | markybob | i hope you have a windows box. if they see you using linux they'll just leave |
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| 21:13.16 | DammitJim | is it normal that I can't install stretch from netinst iso? |
| 21:13.27 | greycat | Yes. |
| 21:13.29 | markybob | DammitJim: yes |
| 21:13.29 | DammitJim | it borks when trying to install the packages |
| 21:13.47 | DammitJim | I understand we try to do stable install the upgrade |
| 21:13.51 | greycat | We're not even close to a usable stretch installer yet. There'll be release candidates when we get closer. |
| 21:13.58 | DammitJim | but are there any isos I can install directly from? |
| 21:14.02 | greycat | No. |
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| 21:14.03 | DammitJim | oh ok |
| 21:14.04 | DammitJim | thanks |
| 21:14.06 | markybob | DammitJim: you need to use stable installer then dist-upgrade ...and stretch support is in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 21:14.10 | markybob | DammitJim: no |
| 21:14.15 | DammitJim | that's good to know... it means I shouldn't be messing with stretch, yet |
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| 21:18.48 | countbackula | ayo - I have some .deb binaries I need to install on a system that currently doesn't have wifi connection. They're on a USB stick- is there a specific location in which I need to cp or extract them? |
| 21:19.11 | greycat | countbackula: Doesn't matter. Just dpkg -i all the files in one command. |
| 21:19.23 | countbackula | from the drive? |
| 21:19.28 | greycat | Sure, wherever. |
| 21:19.35 | countbackula | wouldn't I need to cp them to my home at least |
| 21:19.45 | greycat | If you want a backup copy of them in your home, that's fine too. |
| 21:19.55 | markybob | you don't need to, no |
| 21:20.05 | markybob | are we being played? is this the same person? |
| 21:20.11 | countbackula | sweet. just need to be sure |
| 21:20.17 | countbackula | same person? |
| 21:20.41 | greycat | His English is much stronger. |
| 21:20.56 | markybob | countbackula: nevermind |
| 21:21.25 | countbackula | markybob: ...ok |
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| 21:44.13 | andril | is there a way to flash the bios in my Dell in Debian? |
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| 21:47.48 | countbackula | what do you mean by flash? |
| 21:49.30 | andril | update the bios |
| 21:49.34 | rattking | some dell bios / firmware comes in a .bin file you can run from the cli |
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| 21:50.17 | AlmAck | ,checkbackport libpolkit-qt5 |
| 21:50.18 | judd | No package named 'libpolkit-qt5' was found in sid/amd64. |
| 21:50.24 | AlmAck | ,checkbackport libpolkit-qt5-1-1 |
| 21:50.25 | judd | Backporting package libpolkit-qt5-1-1 in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
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| 21:50.41 | rattking | if not, you could look and see if 'flashrom' supports your hardware |
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| 22:05.45 | andril | Firewire |
| 22:06.29 | andril | my bad |
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| 22:53.54 | warsoul | is there any debian version that comes with xserver-xorg-video-intel installed already |
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| 22:54.58 | markybob | warsoul: jessie does. the problem you have is you need the one from jessie-backports. and no. you need to manually install that one |
| 22:55.05 | markybob | warsoul: worry about it tomorrow when you have internet |
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| 22:56.48 | Akuw | is possible to see file and directory permission when connected to server using webdav ? |
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| 22:57.31 | markybob | i guess we're just redoing the entire day right now |
| 22:57.37 | warsoul | ok |
| 22:57.47 | warsoul | markybob if i install debian-kde |
| 22:57.57 | warsoul | is going to happen the samething |
| 22:58.02 | markybob | warsoul: i already answered that when you asked last time |
| 22:58.13 | warsoul | ok |
| 22:58.13 | markybob | warsoul: same thing will happen |
| 22:58.47 | markybob | seriously people. asking 5 times wont change the answer. you're just making people frustrated and make them not want to help you |
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| 23:06.56 | andril | is there any way to install window$ after so i can update my bios |
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| 23:17.04 | ariscop | i think the samba 4.1 -> 4.2 update broke vfs modules |
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| 23:26.34 | simonlnu | !reportbug |
| 23:26.34 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 23:47.14 | WangDang | I just reread the man page for rsync. I used to think the -c option meant that it did a checksum of the original file and the copy to ensure integrity of the copy. After rereading i don't understand anymore. Can anyone explain what the -c option does to rsync? |
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| 23:51.14 | ryouma | WangDang: there is an explanation on an rsync faq of that question. basically checksum is mostly useless unless you suspect data errors i think. |
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| 23:51.56 | ryouma | don't use it for ensuring correctness of copy |
| 23:52.13 | WangDang | ryouma: ok, thanks, I'll try and find the faq |
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| 23:52.59 | MojaviViper | Hi all so in an odd pickle just got a laptop with 2 hard drives and windows of course and I want to install debian on the other drive but I don't have a usb drive or anything at the moment... how can I get this installed now? My googFu is failing me |
| 23:53.11 | ryouma | WangDang: https://sanitarium.net/rsyncfaq/ ? |
| 23:53.38 | WangDang | ryouma: thanks! |
| 23:53.54 | ryouma | yw |
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