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00:01.59 | travis_ | I'm trying to install debian squeeze netinst when it gets to select and install software it comes up with error "an installation step failed...." is there a fix for this or should i just try a cd image |
00:02.15 | markybob | travis_: squeeze is no longer in the repos |
00:02.26 | markybob | travis_: so...you have a problem |
00:02.28 | travis_ | .... |
00:02.37 | markybob | travis_: it's been archived. it's that old |
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00:02.49 | travis_ | wait whats the current then lmao |
00:03.01 | travis_ | wait wait |
00:03.02 | markybob | travis_: jessie |
00:03.03 | dvs | !jessie |
00:03.03 | dpkg | Jessie is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25: http://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150426 . Jessie is the cowgirl in Toy Story 2. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie and ask me about <install jessie> <release notes> <wheezy->jessie>. Currently <8.4>. |
00:03.06 | travis_ | i mean stretch |
00:03.11 | travis_ | im doing stretch netinst my bad |
00:03.20 | markybob | travis_: stretch's installer is known to be broken |
00:03.35 | markybob | travis_: you don't use testing installer to install testing. you install stable then dist-upgrade |
00:03.43 | markybob | travis_: but if you don't know that you probably shouldn't do it |
00:04.15 | travis_ | ahh the issue with me is that my wifi adapter isnt supported in stables kernel ... i guess icould just load and install a kernel on a usb stick after tho |
00:04.19 | dvs | 's favorite factoid |
00:04.42 | dvs | travis_, which adapter is that? |
00:04.45 | markybob | travis_: jessie-backports has 4.4 kernel. same as testing |
00:04.56 | travis_ | dlink dwa-130 not sure which version |
00:05.13 | dvs | travis_, get the unofficial firmware one |
00:05.21 | markybob | !firmware installer |
00:05.21 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
00:05.55 | markybob | !tell travis_ about firmware images |
00:06.04 | travis_ | right I got the firmware for it to install stretch ... I can use that same firmware while installing jessie right? |
00:06.27 | dvs | travis_, The firmware installer comes with the firmware |
00:06.30 | markybob | travis_: jessie has it's own firmware installer. use that |
00:06.48 | travis_ | kk will see what I can do and come back if I have issues, thanks guys |
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00:07.02 | markybob | travis_: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
00:07.44 | travis_ | downloading now thx bro |
00:10.13 | travis_ | unrelated question but I use dd a lot ... do you guys know any flags I can use to show % moved when using dd.. for example if im moving that debian netinst image to a usb and do dd if=/home/../diskimage of=/dev/sdb |
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00:10.32 | solrize | debian.org recommends downloading iso by jigdo, but there's no apt package for it? |
00:10.33 | markybob | travis_: the install guide tells you to cp image.iso /dev/sdb |
00:10.58 | solrize | it's on a non-debian site belonging to some guy, and it says it's now unmaintained |
00:11.05 | travis_ | oh okk |
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00:33.56 | travis_ | If I have 250 Gb how much should I make for / and how much for /home? |
00:34.08 | travis_ | and why not put it all on / |
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00:35.39 | jonathan_zz | Personally I make very small root but maybe that would not be helpful for you. |
00:35.59 | TiCPU | I usually have 20GB for / on servers but on personal, I have most of the time 60GB and above since I don't care as much about separating the OS from data |
00:36.04 | nevyn | depends on usage |
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00:36.27 | nevyn | installs more stuff on desktops so /usr can get kinda chunky |
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00:36.44 | jonathan_zz | myself i create volume for data, currently I have my data encrypted but not system. |
00:36.49 | TiCPU | that may explain my 60GB too, nevyn ;) |
00:37.29 | travis_ | ahh. I keep a lot of movies and music so I guess I'll stick with small / |
00:38.01 | TiCPU | right now on this personnal PC I have root at 30GB / 40GB and the bulk of my data is in /mnt/btrfs in that case which has some subvolumes mapped to /home and /srv |
00:38.49 | jonathan_zz | my (kubuntu) root is 10GB of 16GB now |
00:39.09 | jonathan_zz | but I install games etc. on my data |
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00:39.57 | travis_ | yuck kubuntu xD ... you got any suggestions for free games though ? :D |
00:40.06 | TiCPU | /srv containing shared movies and music, also torrents and /home having random stuff, sources, compiled binaries and documents so it amounts to some GB too, but BTRFS snapshots are really handy in this subvolume |
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00:40.59 | jonathan_zz | no and actually the only game I open atm doesn't run fast enough on linux. |
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00:41.26 | travis_ | ahh what game is that? I play MC and CS:GO and Dota 2 |
00:41.36 | jonathan_zz | guildwars 2 |
00:41.44 | isuldor | I can't seem to turn off rpcbind. Nothing I plan to use requires it. what's up with that? |
00:41.51 | travis_ | I find dota 2 is great on linux but I always have latency issues on linux gaming |
00:42.10 | jonathan_zz | my mouse disappears in dota 2 after I view a match, so I haven't even tried playing it yet. |
00:42.46 | Aorious | Works great for me, CS:GO too, after enabling the US locale. |
00:43.18 | TiCPU | isuldor, you can simply purge the package since it is mostly used by NFS |
00:43.26 | jonathan_zz | gw2 I just get very low framerate on this system, some 12fps, was better on Windows. |
00:43.45 | isuldor | TiCPU: roger that |
00:44.00 | travis_ | idk in windows I always get an average 25-100ms ping on games but linux its always 800+ms... I know its probably not linux specifically but my network adapters and the drivers |
00:44.24 | jonathan_zz | and it crashes after a while due to an m_ioCount assertion or something like that. |
00:44.53 | jonathan_zz | that's odd. |
00:45.17 | travis_ | Damn it I need a LoL linux port. TFW it'll never happen #feelsbadman :( |
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00:45.48 | Aorious | I try to avoid supporting games that do not support my platform. |
00:46.25 | jonathan_zz | it seems you can use kvm to push your discrete gpu to the guest os so you can just game on Windows with 100% performance :p. |
00:46.46 | travis_ | :OO |
00:46.51 | travis_ | damn daniel |
00:46.52 | Aorious | Yes, however there are issue switching your gpu from host to guest on the fly, apparently. |
00:46.57 | Aorious | issues* |
00:47.35 | jonathan_zz | the one that I saw do it used onboard for linux and discrete for guest. |
00:47.37 | Aorious | So if you want to play a game native on linux, than switch to something on windows virtualise, there is room to improve. |
00:47.45 | jonathan_zz | and then dual-connected his monitor. |
00:47.48 | travis_ | but what if you were to have ... 2 gpu's |
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00:47.51 | jonathan_zz | yes |
00:47.55 | Aorious | Waste of gpus. |
00:47.56 | travis_ | could I give 1 to linux and 1 to windows VM |
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00:48.25 | jonathan_zz | yeah if you have onboard and discrete you can do that apparently. |
00:48.51 | jonathan_zz | but then you cannot game on Linux perhaps. |
00:49.14 | Aorious | Without restarting, unless you want instability. |
00:49.32 | Aorious | Might as well dual boot. |
00:49.39 | jonathan_zz | I hate that. |
00:49.43 | jonathan_zz | I hate rebooting to begin with :p. |
00:49.57 | Aorious | As do I... as do I. |
00:50.04 | Aorious | :( |
00:50.06 | travis_ | lmao my desktop stays on for weeks at a time no joke |
00:50.15 | travis_ | I just like the LED's to light up my room |
00:51.06 | travis_ | in netinst Debian desktop evironment is literally the same as GNOME right? why is there 2 options |
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00:51.19 | esotericnonsense | uses pci vga passthrough |
00:51.29 | jonathan_zz | you'll be like, I want to rip my audio cds in linux, but I want to play a game in Windows.... and now I have to choose which one to do..... but ripping audio cds without the game to play is boring, and playing the game without ripping the cds is unproductive :p. |
00:51.51 | TiCPU | esotericnonsense, using libvirt?? |
00:52.05 | TiCPU | or should I say, Qemu |
00:52.11 | Aorious | WINE is bareable. |
00:52.11 | esotericnonsense | host gets a less powerful GPU, if I want to play linux games, I can boot a linux vga passthrough VM :P |
00:52.26 | esotericnonsense | TiCPU: yes, qemu/kvm/libvirt |
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00:52.27 | jonathan_zz | I couldn't get Diablo 2 to play full screen |
00:52.28 | jonathan_zz | back then |
00:52.53 | TiCPU | I'll have to give it a try now that I know |
00:53.01 | jonathan_zz | hehe |
00:53.08 | Aorious | esotericnonsense, OHHHHH, I never thought of that. |
00:53.15 | travis_ | I played a pretty old Windows game a couple months ago through wine ... its gotta be like 10 years old and it couldnt for some reason get text right.. it appeared as just random symbols that werent even letters |
00:53.19 | esotericnonsense | the main problems really just surround pci reset which is a card-by-card thing |
00:53.30 | TiCPU | however, since I switched to Core i7 6700K I have problem with the Skylake video so I have to use an NVidia card I had laying around. :( |
00:53.40 | esotericnonsense | my gtx960 is flawless, my cheapo geforce 210 often requires a reboot |
00:54.17 | markybob | TiCPU: which kernel? |
00:54.36 | esotericnonsense | after a fresh reboot, i can get a W7 guest on both cards and play lan on the same machine with 2xKB/mouse/monitor |
00:54.36 | TiCPU | I tried 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4 |
00:54.39 | markybob | TiCPU: yeah you have to use 4.5 for skylake. |
00:54.55 | dvs | TiCPU, you just have to backport the intel X driver |
00:54.55 | TiCPU | ... damn, let me reboot :) |
00:55.10 | esotericnonsense | so for about 100-150GBP you have lan against your friends |
00:55.19 | esotericnonsense | less if you already have dual monitor |
00:55.40 | jonathan_zz | funky, like a game console |
00:55.48 | TiCPU | dvs, I'm currently on ubuntu 16.04, not debian on this computer, which version of the xorg driver? |
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00:56.22 | travis_ | how do I get nvidia binary driver for my 750ti in debian? never done it in debian before but installing the .run driver from nvidias website broke x on my LM machine so im worried lol |
00:56.31 | jonathan_zz | this pc has GT 640, I have another one in the home not connected with R9 380 |
00:56.37 | dvs | TiCPU, dunno about the ubuntu version. I just used the one in jessie-backports and it worked. |
00:56.38 | TiCPU | apt cache says Candidate: 2:2.99.917+git20160325-1ubuntu1 |
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00:56.51 | TiCPU | I'll go check what version they are on stretch |
00:56.58 | jonathan_zz | ooh I never use the .run, way too complicated. |
00:57.07 | travis_ | no its easy xD |
00:57.11 | jonathan_zz | on ubuntu there's just packages |
00:57.12 | esotericnonsense | i'd like to get another card that behaves a bit more than the gf210, but without having concrete evidence it seems like i'd have to overpay |
00:57.13 | Aorious | Its wayyy easier. |
00:57.20 | travis_ | I mean it broke my LM system but I think its just because I was using mdm |
00:57.28 | markybob | travis_: yeah it's easy and it breaks shit. don't suggest it |
00:57.32 | Aorious | Yh |
00:57.39 | esotericnonsense | gtx960 is too expensive to justify, there's probably something for 50 quid that would work but if it doesn't, waste of time/money |
00:57.47 | markybob | !nvidia |
00:57.48 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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00:57.48 | jonathan_zz | when I tried I couldn't even get the 32-bit drivers running. |
00:57.52 | travis_ | markybob how can i get it on debian then lol |
00:57.55 | markybob | see. not supported if you do that |
00:58.05 | TiCPU | dvs: Stretch seems to be on 2:2.99.917+git20160307-2 so I'm good :) I'll install kernel 4.5 and reboot on my Intel card, it has been 2 months since I last tried |
00:58.05 | markybob | travis_: you read the wiki and follow the guide |
00:58.31 | markybob | !tell travis_ about dontbreakdebian |
00:58.56 | travis_ | damn it wiki's are my greatest enemy |
00:59.06 | travis_ | lolol jk ill read it |
00:59.18 | markybob | travis_: well just don't give bad info |
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00:59.27 | TiCPU | those damn .run files yea |
00:59.37 | markybob | TiCPU: btw, testin support is on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic |
00:59.45 | travis_ | "NVIDIA, FUCK YOU!" |
01:00.10 | themill | wonders where the signal:noise knob is |
01:00.11 | TiCPU | markybob, you're right |
01:00.34 | jonathan_zz | newest nvidia driver gives a lot of issues though, needs workaround in many games. |
01:01.04 | jonathan_zz | 361.28 |
01:01.29 | travis_ | ^ think thats the one that broke my whole lm machine lmao |
01:01.43 | jonathan_zz | what is lm? btw |
01:01.44 | TiCPU | markybob, did debian decided to switch to oftc recently? (since freenode changed some rules I think?) |
01:01.48 | travis_ | linux mint |
01:01.53 | jonathan_zz | oh |
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01:02.09 | travis_ | aka ubuntu |
01:02.17 | themill | TiCPU: if 10 years ago is recent |
01:02.19 | markybob | TiCPU: no. a few years ago |
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01:02.39 | jonathan_zz | borderlands2 needs a workaround (extra parameter/shell variable). |
01:03.21 | TiCPU | well, I did not know and was mislead by some recent spam in #freenode |
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01:04.02 | travis_ | Kappa |
01:04.30 | skytrash | netstat -tulpn |
01:04.39 | skytrash | damn it |
01:06.27 | jonathan_zz | borderlands2 needs this as launch command: __GLVND_DISALLOW_PATCHING=1 %command% |
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01:08.26 | jonathan_zz | I believe Dota 2 required this commented in the .sh: export __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 |
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01:25.29 | boser | hello, i have a litle question regard the X11-Server in debian(Jessie). Where find i the konfiguration files? (zb.) for the monitor, to set a resolution? |
01:26.20 | themill | !xorg.conf |
01:26.20 | dpkg | From Debian 5.0 "Lenny" onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken), by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg manual config>. |
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01:29.21 | boser | dpkg: for your, as information. I have two pc on one monitor and if i switch between the two pc, the resolution is gone, so that i get only the default resoulution. taht's my problem. |
01:29.22 | dpkg | boser: I think you lost me on that one |
01:29.39 | dvs | dpkg: what are you |
01:29.39 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more information, ask me about <infobot>. |
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01:30.37 | boser | dpkg: xorg manual config |
01:30.37 | dpkg | From Debian 5.0 "Lenny" onwards, you can often use an <empty xorg.conf>. To configure your keyboard layout for both X and console, run «dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration». If you have further things you wish to configure, use "X -configure" ("X -configure :1" if server is already active) to produce a xorg.conf template. See also <xorg hal>. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
01:32.23 | themill | boser: it's most likely you need to fiddle with the xrandr command |
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01:38.00 | boser | thx to all and bot. :-) i have now my xorg.conf file. :-) after 8 hours of searching. ;-) |
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01:44.44 | TiCPU | markybob, dvs: currently on latest xorg driver and kernel 4.6-rc2 on the intel card, now let's have youtube running 30 minutes to see if I get a total lockup |
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02:07.58 | tacoinanus | The last time I did a debian install on my laptop, I had it install all the recommended packages, so I had all these other applications, but with this most recent install, I've had to manually install things like iceweasel, and pretty much everything else. I didn't have a gui when it was installed. How do I get it to have all of the normal packages? |
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02:09.00 | markybob | tacoinanus: so it sounds like you used netinst. it gave you an option of what to install. apparently you selected nothing |
02:09.06 | markybob | tacoinanus: so what do you want? gnome? |
02:10.03 | tacoinanus | I've already got the gui set up, I'm really just looking for system setting type stuff |
02:10.26 | markybob | tacoinanus: yes, but which? i'm trying to pick which task package to tell you to use |
02:10.43 | tacoinanus | Oh, well gnome will work fine then. |
02:10.48 | tacoinanus | Thank you |
02:11.03 | markybob | tacoinanus: install task-gnome-desktop |
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02:23.23 | Xtopherus | can someone explain to me what exactly the different is between selecting built-in or modularized when compiling custom kernel ? |
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02:40.30 | isuldor | I think (and I could be wrong) it is whether the package is installed in the base image, or on the overlay |
02:41.16 | isuldor | actually nvm, I was thinking of a different kernel config |
02:42.25 | tacoinanus | I seem to be having a difficult time getting my sound to work. I just build this pc today. I've made sure nothing is muted with alsa mixer, and my guess now is that I need a driver or something. |
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02:55.50 | Exagone313 | Hi, just installed stretch and my second screen is not detected. Also, os-prober doe snot detect my windows 10 partition (on another drive, not EFI) so I can't add it on the grub. What can I do for both? Thanks for your help. |
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02:58.06 | Xtopherus | thanks isuldor |
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03:02.41 | travis_ | exagone313 why isnt windows efi and debian is? I think you could reinstall the windows bootloader in efi and that might fix it |
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03:07.28 | Exagone313 | travis_: I won't touch windows |
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03:07.58 | Exagone313 | debian isn't installed in EFI |
03:08.07 | jim | some people won't do windows either |
03:09.08 | Exagone313 | I'm moving to debian, but if I can't use a dual boot, I am gonna replace it by ubuntu :( |
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03:09.41 | jim | what does the jessie netinstall image do when uefi (and the appropriate partition, and bios settings) are all present? |
03:10.03 | travis_ | YOu might still be able to boot windows without grub you know |
03:10.17 | Exagone313 | yes with bios menu |
03:10.18 | travis_ | go to your boot priority and see if windows boot mgr still shows up |
03:10.28 | Exagone313 | but I want to add it to grub |
03:10.30 | travis_ | did you update-grub |
03:10.33 | Exagone313 | sure |
03:10.46 | Exagone313 | os-prober prints nothing, and update-grub finds only linux |
03:10.51 | travis_ | su update-grub or sudo update-grub ... there is also ways of doing it manually |
03:10.53 | travis_ | oh |
03:10.56 | jim | Exagone313, do whichever you want... but... if you go with ubuntu, you'll have to continue this part in #ubuntu |
03:11.08 | Exagone313 | I tried to mount windows partition, the same |
03:11.19 | travis_ | is secure boot disabled inside windows |
03:11.38 | Exagone313 | I didn't disabled it, so I think it's on |
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03:11.52 | Exagone313 | ok I'm gonna try to disable it |
03:11.54 | Exagone313 | thanks |
03:12.04 | poli | How does initramfs decides which device is root? |
03:13.13 | travis_ | yeah disable that bs |
03:13.21 | travis_ | also make sure its disabled in bios |
03:13.50 | jim | if you succeed in disabling uefi, you'd be able to boot the netinstall, or ubuntu or debian or windows... turning it on means the firmware and/or boot loaders would be signed and that signature would get checked before that boot loader is allowed to run' |
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03:14.36 | jim | poli, the grub kernel line has a setting for the root filesystem |
03:15.24 | Exagone313 | darn, can't boot into windows |
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03:15.50 | Exagone313 | so I think it was installed in EFI, using former EFI partition on the drive I just erased, strange thing, fuck you windows |
03:16.07 | Exagone313 | or something like that |
03:16.42 | travis_ | just install syslinux with debian then |
03:16.48 | travis_ | you can boot legacy windows and debian |
03:16.48 | jim | maybe the windows media you originally installed from can repair that |
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03:17.23 | travis_ | and yeah you can use the windows installation media to fix windows bootloader and I think change it from BIOS to efi |
03:17.37 | jim | do you need windows this second? |
03:18.59 | travis_ | ^nobody needs windows lulz |
03:19.15 | crayon | can someone help me out with my VM and VLC? whenever i play video lit ooks like this https://imgur.com/mis0Jcm |
03:19.19 | crayon | it looks* |
03:19.49 | travis_ | Why you play videos in a vm lol |
03:20.44 | aedinius | I know some people that only use VMs |
03:21.07 | travis_ | idek how to fix that dude how did you install VLC? is it up to date |
03:23.05 | crayon | ya |
03:23.08 | crayon | all up to date |
03:23.19 | crayon | i tried changing all the encoders as well in vlc |
03:23.20 | crayon | no dice |
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03:23.39 | jim | less enterkey, more content |
03:23.46 | travis_ | how much vram did you give your vm... enabled acceleration? give it more than 1 core? |
03:24.04 | crayon | 2gb, yes/yes |
03:24.44 | travis_ | whats the format you're watching mp4? |
03:25.03 | crayon | mkv, x264. do you think it has to do with the codec? |
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03:26.20 | travis_ | idk honestly do you have proper video drivers |
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03:26.51 | travis_ | looking on ubuntuforums some guy with the same issue said "I found the solution. Go to vlc then on tools choose preferences and on the video section change the output option to opengl" |
03:27.01 | crayon | i think so.. everything else works great. |
03:27.15 | crayon | i tried cycling through all the various outputs |
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03:32.18 | travis_ | welp i just spent forever doing jessie netinst and broke it immediately gg |
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03:33.23 | Exagone313 | travis_: windows miss a system partition |
03:33.34 | Exagone313 | so I can't repair, have to reinstall |
03:33.45 | Exagone313 | and I installed only 2 months ago |
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03:37.02 | Exagone313 | travis_: what was your idea about syslinux? |
03:37.13 | Exagone313 | or not for me? |
03:37.34 | travis_ | install syslinux as your bootloader for debian its a legacy (not efi) bootloader |
03:37.42 | travis_ | and you can add your legacy windows partition to it |
03:38.03 | Exagone313 | but I'm sure debian isn't installed via EFI, so it wasn't that problem |
03:38.15 | travis_ | guys how do I connect to wifi in debian recovery mode? |
03:38.18 | Exagone313 | I don't have /boot/efi direcoty or EFI partition |
03:38.32 | Exagone313 | travis_: to make it simple, you don't |
03:38.38 | Exagone313 | it's a pain |
03:38.43 | travis_ | I need to |
03:38.52 | Exagone313 | I never succeeded |
03:39.01 | Exagone313 | is your wi-fi wep? |
03:42.41 | travis_ | no |
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03:49.33 | travis_ | guys i really need help with this |
03:49.40 | travis_ | I dont want to install again -_- |
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03:57.23 | simonlnu | travis_: using nmcli or iw |
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03:58.16 | simonlnu | in network-manager or wireless-tools packages, respectively |
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03:59.40 | travis_ | i ran this line "/etc/init.d/network-manager restart" and its at blinking cursor |
04:00.15 | travis_ | I mean it says wlan0 authenticated and etc but now its just cursor |
04:00.33 | simonlnu | ok, you got a prompt? |
04:00.35 | f-a | I want to install a piece of software from contrib, but I run main. What's the safest way to do it? |
04:00.47 | travis_ | wait I got it |
04:00.52 | travis_ | I hit enter and now its working |
04:00.55 | simonlnu | add contrib after main |
04:01.00 | simonlnu | ok |
04:01.05 | travis_ | wait shit i broke it |
04:01.16 | travis_ | I did ping google.ca to test it and now its non stop pinging |
04:01.23 | travis_ | how do i kill that |
04:01.27 | simonlnu | ctrl-c |
04:01.46 | simonlnu | you can pass -c [a number] to limit that |
04:01.52 | simonlnu | no, [ ] |
04:02.30 | travis_ | i know I forgot :P |
04:02.33 | travis_ | thanks though |
04:02.48 | simonlnu | np |
04:03.58 | travis_ | and f-a: debian wiki says if you do that you make a "FrankenDebian" and thats bad |
04:04.36 | simonlnu | no, franken debian is when you mix ubuntu and debian, for example, or stable with testing/unstable |
04:04.59 | simonlnu | she/he is just adding contrib |
04:05.01 | f-a | the software I am looking to install is virtualbox |
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04:05.34 | simonlnu | add contribto the relevant sources.list, then run apt-get/aptitude update |
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04:05.41 | simonlnu | contrib to* |
04:05.42 | travis_ | simonlnu can you help me out with something else |
04:05.57 | simonlnu | depends if i can ;) |
04:05.57 | f-a | simonlnu: can I then switch back to main if I feel to? |
04:06.19 | simonlnu | f-a: you can keep it it won't matter much |
04:06.56 | simonlnu | travis_: "state the nature of your issue" |
04:07.07 | simonlnu | teehees |
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04:07.18 | travis_ | the reason im in recovery mode is i fuked up nvidia-driver so I didnt read the wiki fully and ended up running only apt-get install nvidia-driver without getting jessie-backports (I got it now) but on the wiki it only says after downloading backports and driver "DKMS will build the nvidia module for your system." "restart your system to enable the nouveau blacklist" |
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04:07.26 | travis_ | theres a novel for ya |
04:08.21 | simonlnu | ok, so you got screwed up graphics, right? i'm guessing that nvidia is your boot screen video device? |
04:08.22 | travis_ | sooo what does that mean do I just run DKMS in terminal? |
04:08.48 | simonlnu | you've installed the needed bits? |
04:08.48 | travis_ | well it was screwed up im still in recovery after running https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#jessie-352 |
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04:09.10 | travis_ | wait |
04:09.20 | simonlnu | well, dkms is 'smart' it'll detect if it needs to run while you're installing stuff |
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04:09.40 | simonlnu | (sorry for the lack of punctuation) |
04:09.41 | travis_ | ohhh i see dkms in terminal so i think you're right lol |
04:09.49 | travis_ | illtry reboot now |
04:10.39 | travis_ | ouu its werking |
04:10.55 | travis_ | fancy hd debian :D was like 240p before |
04:11.07 | simonlnu | nice |
04:11.22 | travis_ | god I'm glad I learned arch linux cause now I can do most of this fixing on my own :D |
04:11.53 | simonlnu | arch is good for that. debian is too. |
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04:12.24 | travis_ | shit now my second monitor isnt on |
04:12.33 | travis_ | wait nvm |
04:12.36 | simonlnu | ubuntu is good for handholding and people who aren't technically minded |
04:13.05 | travis_ | lmao! |
04:13.13 | simonlnu | thinks they all have their merits |
04:13.16 | aedinius | debian enables my laziness |
04:13.20 | travis_ | we've all been there |
04:15.10 | travis_ | welp I'm off thx for the help all |
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04:15.58 | awal1 | f-a, if you install X pkg from contrib, you shouldn't remove 'contrib' component from your sources file; that X pack will get updates from that component |
04:16.11 | f-a | awal1: thanks |
04:18.01 | awal1 | f-a, qemu kvm is more stable, faster and better integrated with linux kernel and debian system then virtualbox |
04:18.37 | awal1 | if you care about using only main , so you may want run qemu-kvm instead of vbox |
04:18.59 | aedinius | qemu-kvm+spicy is pretty good for a basic windows vm |
04:19.18 | f-a | very good |
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04:20.52 | awal1 | and qemu-kvm dont need extra drivers/modules for its execution, linux already includes all the necessary |
04:21.54 | aedinius | Since I'm dumb and am trying to run testing as a daily OS, things like vmware have broken, so I had to rebuild a work VM (for email/etc) for qemu-kvm, and its fantastic |
04:22.17 | awal1 | f-a, https://wiki.debian.org/KVM |
04:23.42 | wsirccc__ | can anybody help with preseed scenarios are possible. Managed install with local preseed.cfg and remote networking stall. Do not know if preseeding is possible with local iso and in front of a physical computer. |
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04:23.53 | wsirccc__ | tia |
04:24.54 | f-a | very nice awal1 , thanks |
04:25.07 | f-a | I was stupidly scared by kvm/quemu |
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04:26.34 | awal1 | install virt-manager if ou want to avoid cli stuff |
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04:28.37 | Rusty1 | aqemu is ok? seems to work |
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04:29.20 | Al3xG0 | nvidia suspend suport drivers oficially debian? |
04:29.33 | Al3xG0 | nvidia suspend support drivers oficially debian/unix? |
04:29.51 | aedinius | Al3xG0: Do the nvidia drivers support suspend officially in debian? |
04:29.57 | aedinius | Al3xG0: Is that what you are asking? |
04:30.22 | Al3xG0 | yes |
04:30.26 | aedinius | Al3xG0: I believe so. |
04:30.32 | aedinius | Al3xG0: And it works well in my experience. |
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04:31.15 | Al3xG0 | new nvidia gpu will not have more official drivers? |
04:31.19 | Al3xG0 | aedinius |
04:32.09 | awal1 | i think he is asking if nvidia will no longuer provide support/drivers for linux kernel |
04:32.27 | Al3xG0 | awal1 sure |
04:32.29 | Al3xG0 | :) |
04:32.33 | Al3xG0 | awal1 yes |
04:33.02 | awal1 | Al3xGO, google that |
04:33.17 | awal1 | I dont have nvidia |
04:33.21 | Al3xG0 | I heard something about it |
04:33.32 | Al3xG0 | i use radeon |
04:33.40 | Al3xG0 | i buy new gpu |
04:34.10 | Al3xG0 | so I asked about |
04:34.34 | aedinius | uh |
04:35.51 | awal1 | Al3xG0, intel/amd have less problems with linux/gnu in general |
04:35.51 | aedinius | that question... i don't know |
04:36.17 | Al3xG0 | aedinius :) ok |
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04:37.54 | aedinius | I don't see (and haven't seen comment regarding it) debian dropping their packaging of the nvidia binary drivers. i also don't see nvidia dropping support for new chips with their binary driver. |
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04:48.23 | wsirccc__ | awal1 |
04:48.23 | wsirccc__ | awal1: install virt-manager if ou want to avoid cli stuff |
04:49.03 | wsirccc__ | virt-manager does preseeding? |
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04:57.53 | awal1 | wsirccc__, what happens? |
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05:02.35 | MaBunny | Hey guys |
05:02.46 | awal1 | virt-manager (virtual machine manager) is for manage (create, configure...)the VMs via GUI (graphical user interface) |
05:03.07 | MaBunny | So ive downloaded n installed debian 8.4 on a usb stick |
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05:03.41 | MaBunny | And when i try to login into my newly installed system |
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05:05.02 | MaBunny | It says "debian gnu/linux 8 thedrunkenone tty1" n "thedrunkenone login: " |
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05:05.27 | wsirccc__ | awal1:asked for preseeding |
05:05.49 | henryk | MaBunny: so you didn't install a desktop environment. |
05:05.55 | MaBunny | So its basically there for a long time,just at tht position for too much time |
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05:06.34 | MaBunny | No at the last screen i installed the desktop envirn n other tools |
05:07.19 | MaBunny | It didnt used to be like this in the prev installations |
05:09.03 | MaBunny | So my problem is tht i havent installed the gnome envirn??? |
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05:10.01 | TomTomTosch | 'dpkg -l gnome' will show you |
05:10.15 | MaBunny | Ok |
05:13.11 | MaBunny | Whatever password i give,it says login incorrect |
05:13.37 | TomTomTosch | you give a username, then a password. |
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05:13.46 | TomTomTosch | can't help you with a login. |
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05:14.03 | MaBunny | Ok |
05:14.22 | MaBunny | I will just reinstall the system then |
05:15.22 | nevyn | MaBunny: during the installation you setup a user |
05:15.26 | MaBunny | And why does it ask to hav or not the base packages n the desktop environ??? In the installer |
05:15.46 | MaBunny | I seted up a user,it was mabunny |
05:15.56 | MaBunny | *setted |
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05:16.46 | MaBunny | thedrunkenone is my root user |
05:16.56 | shibly | "A start job is runnin ..." How can i stop it during boot time? |
05:17.06 | MaBunny | What do i do??? |
05:17.27 | TomTomTosch | no, root is your root user. |
05:17.43 | MaBunny | And??? |
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05:20.39 | shibly | Can anyone answer? |
05:20.45 | shibly | It takes time |
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05:22.23 | MaBunny | Ok guys |
05:22.37 | MaBunny | Im reinstalling |
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05:25.34 | MaBunny | Is it possible to make to nonroot users in the installer??? |
05:25.55 | TomTomTosch | the installer does that, yes. |
05:26.23 | TomTomTosch | it asks you for a username and password for a normal user. |
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05:27.32 | MaBunny | Yeah,ive set one |
05:27.50 | MaBunny | But i wanted to set up another |
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05:28.35 | TomTomTosch | that's what the adduser tool is for. |
05:28.41 | MaBunny | Ok |
05:28.43 | TomTomTosch | but you do that after the installation. |
05:28.50 | MaBunny | Ok |
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05:37.31 | magyar | hi, I have debian jessie with backports, is ther a way to disable hdmi audio permanently, I keep loosing my soundblaster audio card, which is a pisser :( |
05:39.05 | jmcnaught | magyar: hello. which desktop environment or window manager do you use? are you using pulseaudio? |
05:39.46 | magyar | jmcnaught: i use kde and I do use pulse |
05:40.44 | jmcnaught | magyar: i think that kde's settings/config manager configure pulse, but have you tried using pavucontrol? |
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05:42.50 | r0ck_ | why is screensaver in xfce 4 so god damn old? |
05:42.55 | magyar | jmcnaught: i do use pavucontrol, but after the latest patching, my soundblaster disappeared from pulse all together :( |
05:43.42 | magyar | jmcnaught: all I have is my video card hdmi sound card |
05:43.53 | TomTomTosch | does it apper in aplay -l but not with the index 0 ? |
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05:45.01 | magyar | TomTomTosch: unfortunately it does not appear any longer |
05:45.12 | jmcnaught | r0ck_: it's the same age as everything else in jessie. the upstream author put a message there, it's getting dealt with: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=819703 |
05:45.13 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/819703 in xscreensaver (closed, patch): «xscreensaver: please disable "This version of XScreenSaver is very old! Please upgrade!" message»; severity: important; opened: 2016-04-01; last modified: 2016-04-07. |
05:45.26 | magyar | only the hdmi soundcard appears |
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05:47.08 | jmcnaught | magyar: does the soundblaster get listed by "lspci -nn | grep -i audio"? what is the pciid (looks like [1234:abcd])? |
05:48.38 | jmcnaught | magyar: also are you using the oss4 drivers instead of alsa (not recommending them, just asking) |
05:49.01 | magyar | jmcnaught: yes it does, please see the paste url: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/352369/14601809/ |
05:49.47 | jmcnaught | judd: pciid 1102:0004 |
05:49.48 | judd | [1102:0004] is 'SB Audigy' from 'Creative Labs' with kernel module 'snd-emu10k1' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1102:0004 http://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1 and the out-of-tree 'snd-emu10k1' module. |
05:49.55 | magyar | jmcnaught: how can I check the drivers that you've mentioned ? |
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05:50.33 | jmcnaught | magyar: do you have the package oss4-dkms installed? (don't install it if not) |
05:50.51 | nevyn | magyar: what's lspci say? |
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05:51.12 | magyar | jmcnaught: i don't have it installed |
05:52.04 | jmcnaught | magyar: does "lsmod | grep snd-emu10k1" give a result? |
05:52.53 | magyar | jmcnaught: not any longer, but it used to |
05:53.18 | jmcnaught | magyar: try to modprobe that module, and check for errors in dmesg output |
05:55.29 | magyar | jmcnaught: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/352372/01812921/ << this is as root user |
05:59.29 | jmcnaught | magyar: the message from judd above says the snd-emu10k1 module is out-of-tree, but the wiki link says there is a module in the mainline 2.6 kernel. what does "find /lib/modules -name emu10k1" say? |
06:00.39 | babilen | magyar: Which kernel is installed and which one is running? (compare "uname -a" and "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'linux-image*'") |
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06:07.06 | magyar | jmcnaught: find /lib/modules -name emu10k1 << command says nothing |
06:08.24 | babilen | jmcnaught: -name "*emu10k1*" |
06:08.34 | babilen | err .. magyar ^ |
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06:10.03 | jmcnaught | babilen: oh, thanks. at least for my 3.16 that command found the directory that the modules are in. not sure which kernel magyar is using |
06:10.13 | magyar | babilen: /lib/modules/4.4.0-0.bpo.1-amd64/kernel/drivers/input/gameport/emu10k1-gp.ko |
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06:10.43 | magyar | 4.3 kernel was fine |
06:11.16 | babilen | magyar: What does "modprobe emu10k1-gp ; dmesg|tail -n23" give you? |
06:12.36 | jmcnaught | magyar: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=814855 <--- also did you need the backports kernel for something in particular, was the stock jessie kernel not working in some way? |
06:12.38 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/814855 in src:linux (pending): «linux-image-4.4.0-trunk-amd64: Please restore snd-emu10k1 module»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-02-16; last modified: 2016-04-01. |
06:12.45 | babilen | +1 |
06:13.23 | magyar | babilen: << https://paste.fedoraproject.org/352389/46018235/ |
06:14.06 | babilen | 1102:0004 is also not listed in "modinfo emu10k1-gp" |
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06:15.03 | jmcnaught | babilen: i think that module is just for the gameport, not the soundcard itself |
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06:15.10 | magyar | jmcnaught: no reason, 4.3 worked fine, silly me did an update :( |
06:16.20 | magyar | thank you gents/ladies, I'll roll back to 4.3 for now |
06:16.38 | babilen | jmcnaught: Indeed :) |
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06:17.15 | jmcnaught | magyar: if 3.16 from jessie worked fine it might be best to simply use that |
06:17.42 | magyar | jmcnaught: point taken, thank you !!! |
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06:18.07 | jmcnaught | magyar: you're welcome |
06:18.18 | magyar | going for a reboot! |
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06:21.27 | babilen | Sounds as if a new soundcard is needed though |
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06:23.36 | jmcnaught | gameport, that takes me back |
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06:44.02 | magyar | sound is back with 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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06:50.11 | babilen | \o/ |
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06:51.47 | luxio | sound was broken? |
06:51.51 | luxio | i haven't any issues as of yet |
06:53.07 | babilen | luxio: Well, do you have a SB Audigy and are you using a backported kernel? |
06:53.16 | luxio | wat |
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07:29.36 | factor1 | Where is the libqt5quick5-dev package for debian? |
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07:31.02 | musca | ,v libqt5quick5-dev |
07:31.03 | judd | No package named 'libqt5quick5-dev' was found in amd64. |
07:31.31 | factor1 | Trying to compile dRonin quad copter application. |
07:31.47 | factor1 | I need quick and QML for qt5 dev |
07:32.39 | musca | refer to the build instructions |
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07:33.55 | jelly | factor1: possibly qtdeclarative5-dev |
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07:37.15 | jelly | (judging by "apt-cache show libqt5quick5", its Source:, "apt-cache search qt declarative dev", and "apt-cache show qtdeclarative5-dev") |
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07:38.05 | jmd | Which is the most useless package in stable? |
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07:41.36 | arahael | There are a lot of packages. We should define what we mean by "useless" in order to be able to reduce the list. |
07:42.00 | DC-1 | jmd: sl |
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07:43.43 | arahael | DC-1: I'd suggest sl-dbgsym. |
07:43.52 | arahael | Though, sl seems funny, at least. |
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07:45.59 | arahael | Damn it. |
07:46.04 | arahael | I typed "ls" by mistake. |
07:46.14 | arahael | And it showed me a list of directory entries. |
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07:51.50 | jmd | I think there should be a bot which displays a list of directory entries when I inadvertently type "ls" in an irc channel. |
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07:55.48 | MaBunny | Hey guys |
07:56.24 | MaBunny | So ive installed the system or in the process to do so |
07:57.02 | jmd | MaBunny: Congratulations. |
07:57.14 | MaBunny | Its in a step called "select n install software" |
07:57.50 | MaBunny | Bfore tht i had successfully installed the base system n all |
07:58.09 | MaBunny | But in the step tht i meantioned |
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07:59.02 | MaBunny | It firstly goes on well,thn asks for installing desktop environ n stuff but |
07:59.53 | MaBunny | After tht it shows it installing 331 softwares n thn in the end it says "failed" |
08:00.11 | MaBunny | I did the steps correctly,though |
08:00.47 | MaBunny | And i had selected the additional softwares n the desktop environ |
08:01.47 | MaBunny | This thing happened to me last night too,and i remember now tht i had skipped this step and installed the grub bootloader |
08:01.56 | jmd | "apt-get -f install" normally fixes failed installs. |
08:02.03 | MaBunny | The next step |
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08:02.21 | MaBunny | No im in graphical install mode jmd |
08:02.33 | jmd | I dunno. I've never used that. |
08:02.52 | MaBunny | How do i put the command in graphical install mode??? |
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08:03.23 | MaBunny | Wait there is an option: "execute a shell" |
08:03.25 | jmd | I think Ctrl-Alt-F1 or something normally gets you a shell. |
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08:03.46 | MaBunny | Yeah ok ill try tht |
08:04.23 | MaBunny | Ok |
08:04.45 | MaBunny | So apt-get -f install doesnt work |
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08:05.07 | MaBunny | Apparently apt is installed yet maybe |
08:05.27 | MaBunny | How do i get out of this shell??? |
08:06.51 | MaBunny | Guys?? |
08:08.28 | jmd | exit |
08:08.51 | MaBunny | Nope |
08:09.00 | MaBunny | It doesnt help |
08:09.15 | jmd | A shell where "exit" doesn't work? |
08:09.21 | MaBunny | Idk |
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08:10.29 | MaBunny | Shit |
08:10.49 | Sir_Designer | MaBunny control-D? |
08:11.28 | MaBunny | It says its the xorg server |
08:11.54 | MaBunny | I typed in by pressing ctrl-alt-F1 |
08:12.05 | jmd | Actually I did once work on a system where the sysadmin had aliased "sh1t" and a few other expletives to "exit". |
08:12.22 | MaBunny | Ctrl-D doesnt work |
08:12.37 | factor | Cool qtdeclarative5-dev was the package I needed. thanks all |
08:12.47 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny alt f1 |
08:13.01 | MaBunny | Nope |
08:13.02 | factor | Now on to other errors. smaller at least , but will have to wait until I finish eating. |
08:13.22 | MaBunny | It doesnt work,alt f1 |
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08:15.27 | TomTomTosch | or alt f5 |
08:15.42 | MaBunny | Yeah tht worked |
08:15.46 | MaBunny | Thnx |
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08:15.58 | TomTomTosch | what exactly failed? |
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08:16.02 | MaBunny | Hey TomTomTosch |
08:16.07 | TomTomTosch | hello. |
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08:16.29 | MaBunny | The step called "select n install software" |
08:16.34 | TomTomTosch | what exactly did it say when it failed? |
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08:16.45 | MaBunny | Well |
08:17.08 | MaBunny | It said it failed,i dont remember exactly what it said |
08:17.23 | TomTomTosch | they do it again and tell me ;D |
08:17.33 | MaBunny | Ok im running tht step again ....yeah |
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08:17.37 | MaBunny | :) |
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08:18.08 | MaBunny | Ok,my family's calling,need to go |
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08:19.40 | sadmagic | Hi guys |
08:19.50 | MaBunny | Hey |
08:20.31 | sadmagic | Anyone care to talk about samba ? :) |
08:20.45 | MaBunny | Idk |
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08:21.05 | sadmagic | I care to talk about samba, and perhaps go into a rage about it. |
08:21.27 | MaBunny | Is it technical??? |
08:21.36 | sadmagic | Namely not being about to mount a share.... and I'm pretty sure that is one of it's main use cases. |
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08:36.37 | gustavohmsilva | hi guys |
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08:37.56 | gustavohmsilva | stupid question! I'm trying to add the username frankie to the same permissions of the username james, so I'm doing it like this: $sudo usermod -aG frankie | groups james |
08:38.08 | gustavohmsilva | but I think the command is not ok |
08:38.34 | gustavohmsilva | could someone help-me with that? is there something thats misplaced? |
08:39.06 | gustavohmsilva | I'm getting a list of the groups in which james is included, then a Usage usermod [options] LOGIN message |
08:39.16 | gustavohmsilva | kind of noob here, sorry |
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08:41.55 | gustavohmsilva | I mean, normally I would just re-type all the groups but I'm trying to get rid of bad habits |
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08:43.23 | olerem | hallo all, are there any automatic debian installer for armhf? For example for bananapi? I can du it manually, but just curious if there are ither way to do that? |
08:45.24 | MaBunny | Ok guys |
08:45.39 | MaBunny | I was eating lunch by the way |
08:45.47 | olerem | gustavohmsilva: try this instead: sudo usermod -aG frankie $(groups james | cut -d " " -f 4-) |
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08:46.46 | MaBunny | So....its in tht window where i choose to install the debian desktop environ n standard system softwares |
08:47.24 | MaBunny | Im clicking both to enabled(the tick mark) n proceeding |
08:47.30 | MaBunny | Ok |
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08:48.53 | MaBunny | Again it says failed |
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08:51.03 | MaBunny | It says: " An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu,or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software." |
08:51.05 | vlt | Hello. I have a server running Debian that lost its network connection. I can connect to a serial console and see that everything is running fine, even networking between the vitual machines running inside via a bridge device works fine. Any idea how a) to troubleshoot this, and b) how to get something like the ethtool deb on that machine (via serial console) to check the actual device? |
08:51.11 | vlt | Thereâs nothing ethX related in syslog around the time the connection got lost. |
08:51.17 | MaBunny | Ok |
08:51.56 | MaBunny | I put it literally down as it is shown in the window in my screen now |
08:52.19 | MaBunny | TomTomTosch,what do you think about it??? |
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08:54.48 | vlt | The network device is active, that is I can ping my self (and all the virtual machines via their vif devices connected to the bridge). But any ping to the serverâs outside world connected to physical eth0 doesnât get answer. |
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08:55.34 | MaBunny | Guys??? |
08:56.16 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: maybe the mirror you selected is bad. try a different one. |
08:56.48 | MaBunny | Ok |
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08:57.47 | MaBunny | Well,how can i mirror the official debian mirror in the setup |
08:57.59 | MaBunny | I mean ftp.debian.org |
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08:59.13 | TomTomTosch | the installer asks you which mirror you want to use at some point. |
08:59.22 | MaBunny | Yeah |
08:59.54 | MaBunny | But i cant find the official mirror in those lists |
09:00.59 | TomTomTosch | https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
09:01.07 | TomTomTosch | here is a list. pick one near you. |
09:01.50 | MaBunny | No no,i dont want one near me |
09:02.03 | TomTomTosch | are you kidding? |
09:02.14 | MaBunny | I want the official mirror |
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09:02.24 | Basilic | hello all |
09:02.25 | TomTomTosch | that is a list of official mirrors |
09:02.55 | TomTomTosch | it does not matter which you pick, apt checks signatures anyway. |
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09:03.01 | Basilic | I have a problem with certificate on icesealsel anybody can help me? |
09:03.04 | MaBunny | I mean ftp.debian.org |
09:03.19 | MaBunny | I want tht one |
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09:04.35 | MaBunny | Any help?? |
09:04.52 | TomTomTosch | http://httpredir.debian.org/ is the one you want. |
09:04.56 | slax0r | hi, I have x-www-browser and gnome-www-browser set to link to chromium, but xdg-open is still opening links in iceweasol, how come? |
09:05.00 | slax0r | iceweasel* |
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09:05.25 | MaBunny | There was also an option to input wht i want manually |
09:05.50 | MaBunny | But i cant understand the one about proxy |
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09:08.35 | TomTomTosch | MaBunny: you don't need a proxy. |
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09:16.49 | MaBunny | Hey guys i choosed australia mirror |
09:17.19 | MaBunny | So it asks for a ftp proxy |
09:17.32 | MaBunny | What should i do |
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09:17.47 | MaBunny | TomTomTosch??? |
09:18.54 | MaBunny | Should i leave it blank?? |
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09:22.19 | MaBunny | Yoohoo!!! Guys??? |
09:22.36 | MaBunny | Should i leave it blank??? |
09:22.45 | TomTomTosch | yes. no need to yoohoo and repeat. |
09:23.05 | MaBunny | Ok srry for tht guys :) |
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09:41.13 | Mo0O | hi |
09:41.13 | DANtheBEASTman | Mo0O: hi |
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10:03.28 | pingfloyd | hi |
10:03.28 | DANtheBEASTman | pingfloyd: hi |
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10:25.42 | Exagone313 | Hi, what is the best way to create a bootable usb from iso? I tried with dd but I can't boot on the usb after that, but if I mount the usb drive it seems it's copied successfully... Thanks for your help. |
10:27.17 | dagerik | fdisk |
10:27.21 | dagerik | a |
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10:28.40 | Exagone313 | dagerik: with what parameters? |
10:29.09 | dagerik | man fdisk |
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10:29.21 | Exagone313 | maybe I'm gonna try to boot iso via grub |
10:29.28 | Exagone313 | I don't know if it works |
10:29.57 | Exagone313 | hmm seems bad idea |
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10:30.26 | Exagone313 | what is the good tool to copy iso on usb, maybe with syslinux of fat32? |
10:30.57 | grawity | is it an isohybrid iso, or a cd-only iso? |
10:32.11 | Exagone313 | I think it's hybrid |
10:32.52 | grawity | then you really should be able to just `dd`/`cp`/`pv` it straight to the USB |
10:33.50 | Exagone313 | cp /path/foo.iso /dev/sdX ? |
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10:40.05 | Exagone313 | grawity: hmm it didn't seem to work, the iso sizes 2GB and finally my USB has two partition 247M and 416K |
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10:40.47 | Exagone313 | I'm gonna try |
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11:12.35 | benjr | how come when i check top i sometimes see programs using more then 100% cpu? |
11:12.45 | benjr | how can anything use more than 100%? |
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11:14.39 | TomTomTosch | it's just an approximation. |
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11:15.29 | benjr | i just caught something that said it was using 279%, seems to be pretty far off for an approximation |
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11:22.16 | azswa | hi, anyone familiar with debugfs? everytime I try to list deleted inodes with lsdel, I get 0 inodes found. The filesystem is ext4. I am on deb 8.3 |
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11:23.45 | hexnewbie | benjr: Programs can use more than 100% CPU if they have multiple threads and they are using more than one CPU. Also, it depends on the tool you're using. Linux doesn't expose percentages, but CPU time, so if the the tool is miscalculating the time during polling, it can be way off. |
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11:37.12 | aaronmehar | Hey Debian.. is there no EOL set for 7? |
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12:16.44 | ewew | Hi. Did someone try to change sysrq parameter via pam_exec.so ? |
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12:18.21 | abrotman | !ask |
12:18.21 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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12:22.09 | tjcarter | Can I ask if I can ask if I can ask if I can ask a ... oh nevermind. :D |
12:22.35 | ewew | ok. I trying to change the sysrq parameter via pam_exec.so. The problem is that it passes but the value does not change. I haved tried it with seteuid but no luck. The command is /bin/echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq. |
12:24.31 | Ghostbird | (I can't access #debian-next, but this applies to testing): After an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, my Iceweasel seems to have been replaced by Firefox, but this was not shown in the list-changes. Is this expected? |
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12:26.03 | ewew | Ghostbird #debian-next is on oftc network. |
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12:27.53 | M4GNV5 | so i just bought my new pc and plugged my raspi usb wlan stick in (RTL8188CUS) i followed the (one) instruction on the debian wiki and installed firmware-realtek and the wlan generally works. However my router (frtz.box 7272) says its bitrate is 1-3MBit/s and download speeds vary from 400byte/s to 80kByte/s i tried different approaches from google (mainly http://askubuntu.com/questions/329932/slow-wifi-connection-on-ubuntu-13-04-with-rtl8723 |
12:27.53 | M4GNV5 | ae-realtek-wireless-driver) however as a comment suggest thats not working anymore for newer kernel versions and the github user he provided has no repo for my wlan stick (8188cuus). Can someone tell me how to fix the slow speed so i can carry on installing drivers for my graphics card etc.? |
12:28.32 | Ghostbird | ewew: I feel dumb. Thanks! |
12:28.47 | ewew | Ghostbird np. we are here to help. |
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12:31.33 | p0g0 | M4GNV5: Try different channels, or move the two devices closer- those may help (or not). |
12:31.36 | teraflops | M4GNV5: apart from the fact that those devices sucks. Did you try just switching the channel in the ap/router till you find the one that suits better |
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12:33.54 | M4GNV5 | well my laptop is right next to the pc and has isp max speed (350kb/s) so i thought its an issue with the driver not the connection? |
12:34.03 | M4GNV5 | also a screenshot from my firtz.box: http://i.m4gnus.de/wdrzsn.png |
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12:34.47 | p0g0 | M4GNV5: oddly, one can be too close too, for some devices-the ACKs happen too fast for the media. Not likely tho. |
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12:37.11 | gr8 | look what xscreensaver is telling me :-/ "This version of xscreensaver is VERY OLD! Please upgrade! (If this is the latest version that your distro ships, then your distro is doing you a disservice. Build from source.) |
12:37.25 | gr8 | should I feel offended by that? |
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12:41.17 | jonathan_zz | why would you |
12:41.19 | avis- | i'm running debian jessie. i've googled and could not find a thorough and exact answer on whats needed to play blueray on debian jessie. can anyone help ? |
12:41.48 | avis- | \0 |
12:42.04 | jonathan_zz | probably upgrade to ubuntu LOL |
12:42.08 | jonathan_zz | sorry haha |
12:42.11 | gr8 | avis-: forget it. I'm a noob but I think it's not really possible |
12:42.15 | avis- | debians much lighter |
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12:42.41 | avis- | ouch |
12:42.49 | jonathan_zz | blueray might not be possible in linux in any case. I'm not sure. |
12:42.58 | avis- | thanks |
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12:43.07 | jonathan_zz | mostly concerning hdcp probably. |
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12:43.37 | jonathan_zz | I guess his house was on fire and he needed leave :-/. |
12:43.44 | jonathan_zz | to leave. |
12:43.51 | gr8 | lol |
12:43.54 | gr8 | who knows |
12:44.01 | gr8 | his problem |
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12:45.13 | wsirccc__ | can anybody help with discussing preseed scenarios? |
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12:48.15 | xorond | avis do you mean a bluray video downloaded from torrent? |
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12:49.37 | gr8 | yeah you can watch the illegal video material but not the legal one. Linux is an OS for criminals |
12:49.52 | xorond | gr8 you can watch blueray on linux |
12:50.02 | xorond | im talking about the disk |
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12:50.19 | xorond | i just asked to clarify |
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12:50.37 | gr8 | then tell us how |
12:50.42 | r6ku | gr8: google it |
12:50.43 | xorond | avis-, is it a blueray disk or a torrented file? |
12:50.49 | xorond | r6ku +1 |
12:51.25 | xorond | oh he's gone nvm |
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12:52.56 | Delf | How does the "defauts" go on about to get "decided(agreed)?" upon? For example the default cursor :P |
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12:53.45 | xorond | Delf, default cursor on what? |
12:54.10 | Delf | I don't mind adwaita cursor. |
12:54.15 | Delf | xorond: Gnome |
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12:55.06 | tjcarter | gr8: Simply put, the MPAA and other industry types intentionally want to make it difficult and illegal even to watch legal videos on legally purchased disks without their permission. As such, it's much easier to watch the files after their BS garbage that is actually ILLEGAL TO TAMPER WITH in many countries is removed. |
12:55.24 | tjcarter | gr8: It's actually illegal for ME to tell YOU how to do it. |
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12:55.51 | tjcarter | But as has been noted, the information for how it's done is out there. |
12:55.54 | gr8 | is it legal for me to do it then? |
12:56.03 | tjcarter | Actually, no. |
12:56.07 | gr8 | see |
12:56.19 | gr8 | watchin illegal stuff is legal. logic reversed |
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12:56.32 | tjcarter | Not so. |
12:56.55 | gr8 | however xD Bluray sucks |
12:56.59 | tjcarter | Watching stuff that is not encumbered by DRM is legal. Watching stuff that was illegally made unencumbered is still illegal. |
12:57.04 | Delf | Not sure if the cursor size is relative to the resolution. Meaning it grows as the resolution grows, that way it's easier to maintain a desired "size" across multiple resolutions, for clarity of course. |
12:57.30 | xorond | Delf, I have different cursor sizes on different screens |
12:57.37 | tjcarter | However, I don't have to ask you if your unencumbered videos are legal to tell you how to play them. If you tell me they are, I can't help you. |
12:57.46 | tjcarter | (because that's contributory infringement) |
12:57.48 | xorond | tjcarter, dont feed the trolls please |
12:58.12 | Delf | xorond: Different speeds/acceleration settings too? |
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12:58.39 | xorond | Delf, nope. |
12:58.50 | xorond | Delf, speed and acc stays the same for me |
12:59.19 | r6ku | Delf: the defaults for gnome are decided by the gnome devs |
12:59.40 | tjcarter | Delf: Imagining that X11 could ever be so logical or sensical is probably a foolish dream. ;) |
12:59.44 | Delf | Debian doesn't get to make modifications? |
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13:00.14 | tjcarter | Branden often used to say X11 was only the second worst windowing system ever invented. :) |
13:00.15 | Delf | tjcarter: Foolish dreams⦠is what I'm programmed to have :) |
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13:00.30 | Delf | What would be the first? |
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13:00.44 | r6ku | Delf: nothing stopping distributions from making changes if they want to |
13:01.40 | Delf | See there's this thing called "looking good" and it's sometimes preferred above "clarity". |
13:02.07 | tjcarter | Delf: http://is.gd/G9ncRG |
13:02.28 | r6ku | Delf: if you're looking for saner defaults, then maybe gnome isn't what you're looking for |
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13:02.43 | tjcarter | is a fan of XFCE :) |
13:02.45 | Delf | r6ku: Any suggestions? :) |
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13:02.50 | r6ku | Delf: although you can tweak the settings in gnome to some extent |
13:03.24 | tjcarter | It generally behaves more like you expect. |
13:03.25 | Delf | I'm a fan of "configurable" stuff⦠and stuff that doesn't take an expert just to make small yet very magnified and overrated changes :D |
13:04.16 | armin | x is awesome. it worked for me for such a long time and i had so much fun using it. |
13:04.32 | xorond | is a fan of i3 |
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13:04.35 | Delf | r6ku: Of course, I've changed the gtk theme and the cursor :) |
13:04.42 | armin | too |
13:04.52 | Delf | i3? |
13:04.55 | armin | i3. |
13:05.02 | tjcarter | armin: there's always one... |
13:05.02 | xorond | Delf, i3wm.org |
13:05.26 | armin | actually wrote a script that shows a set of color schemes for Xresources (xrdb) via an ncurses like dialog interface so you can just select a color scheme for your terminal emulator. |
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13:05.41 | armin | works quite well |
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13:05.54 | tjcarter | looks like one of those minimalist tiling WMs |
13:05.58 | xorond | tjcarter, it is |
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13:06.07 | armin | tjcarter: it is. and it's great fun to use. |
13:06.20 | tjcarter | Doesn't suit me well |
13:06.26 | armin | why so? |
13:06.27 | xorond | tjcarter, everyone has their needs |
13:06.41 | armin | http://unix.porn/i3.png |
13:06.45 | armin | that's an i3 screenshot of mine. |
13:06.48 | armin | i love to use it. |
13:06.50 | tjcarter | armin: legally blind. I tend to use lots of full-screen windows with big contents |
13:07.08 | tjcarter | armin: namely, two shells with tmux's and a web browser most of the time. |
13:07.11 | armin | tjcarter: especially then you should consider something like that. |
13:07.31 | avis- | i have one other question on debian jessie. i have some icons from elementary linux, but my previous distro allowed me to mark them as different colored. now with debian jessie and some old config file and caja in my file manager i see black sheet like documents instead of colored icons. in fact, there is only one colored icon that matches my icon set i think is Templates. |
13:07.51 | armin | tjcarter: you can easily change all fonts, and you could use rxvt-unicode with a font-size perl script so you can just increase/decrease the fonts all the time while you work via ctrl-- / ctrl-+ |
13:08.00 | tjcarter | armin: I'm using a 91x37 terminal window right now. It's full screen. |
13:08.15 | armin | tjcarter: i work with huge fonts in terminals all the time. |
13:08.16 | tjcarter | Could be 91x39 if not for window deorations and a taskbar |
13:08.34 | Delf | has gnome with "drop-down-terminal" and tmux |
13:08.52 | armin | tjcarter: well you can very easily change the font of i3. |
13:09.00 | tjcarter | There's another great reason for me to go nowhere near Gnome 3. |
13:09.06 | tjcarter | I'm typing on a RPi. |
13:09.26 | tjcarter | 1GB RAM and by default no real swap running from a microSD |
13:09.37 | xorond | tjcarter, i3 would work beautifully on an RPi as its runs very light |
13:09.38 | armin | i3 is one of the most lightweight WMs you could use. |
13:09.44 | xorond | armin, jinx |
13:10.00 | tjcarter | i3 is very small, it's truee |
13:10.09 | r6ku | Delf: there's xfce and kde, i3 is arguably better for your workflow but takes a bit more effort to setup |
13:10.12 | armin | tjcarter: i guess it will be a bit hard to set up initially if you're visually impaired, but i'm very happy to help you if you pm me. |
13:10.28 | armin | tjcarter: also if you need to weak something or so. |
13:10.32 | tjcarter | armin: I've been doing this a few decades. |
13:11.08 | Delf | r6ku: My work flow. I wish. I don't have any work and theres sure as hell no flow either :P Not a programmer of any sort. I like computers a lot but I'm not good with them and they're not my primary interest. |
13:11.11 | tjcarter | back when Slashdot not only wasn't total crap, but before it had accounts. |
13:11.21 | armin | tjcarter: i just try to offer you some help with that, if there's something you want to try out, but run into limitations because you just can't read anything, i'm interested in what the inital things are you run into. |
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13:11.53 | tjcarter | armin: The issue is that tiling is not an ideal way for me to do much of anything. |
13:12.07 | armin | tjcarter: okay. |
13:12.28 | tjcarter | I'm a one-window fullscreen sort of person unless I'm doing something with, say, graphics tools |
13:12.40 | xorond | armin, do you also run archlinux? |
13:12.44 | tjcarter | GIMP kinda can't do one window, etc. |
13:13.12 | tjcarter | The other thing is that for GUI things I tend to zoom in the screen |
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13:13.20 | r6ku | Delf: xfce is more modular and lightweight, kde is a fullblown DE like gnome, both are very configurable |
13:13.29 | tjcarter | xfwm4, Gnome 3, and Compiz are pretty much my only choices for that really |
13:13.35 | tjcarter | (maybe kwm can do it?) |
13:13.40 | armin | xorond: i did for years, but somewhen i noticed it was a bit too unstable for my needs. |
13:13.42 | xorond | tjcarter, kwm is deprecated |
13:14.00 | r6ku | Delf: me neither, the nice thing about tiling window managers like i3 is that you don't have the problem of moving around multiple windows with your mouse |
13:14.00 | tjcarter | What does KDE use now? |
13:14.03 | xorond | armin, ah I see |
13:14.08 | armin | xorond: i run fedora with kde on an x220 right now. |
13:14.16 | xorond | tjcarter, kwin |
13:14.17 | armin | xorond: which is also not stable enough for my needs. |
13:14.22 | Delf | r6ku: If memory serves, kde is more configurable than gnome. I've used xfce before, I like it a lot because it's lightweight and modular of course :D |
13:14.31 | tjcarter | xorond: ah, it was kwin that does compositing. |
13:14.45 | armin | xorond: i'm eventually going to replace this with a kali linux installation soon, since i love to build customized kali iso images just for fun. |
13:15.03 | tjcarter | X11 doesn't really allow smooth scaling of the whole screen unless the WM is a compositing type. |
13:15.15 | xorond | armin, I did install kali on my laptop, but it didn't suit my needs well |
13:15.28 | xorond | now instead i use arch with a custom repo for security stuff |
13:15.32 | armin | xorond: i've been running debian lately for almost 10 years now, but i wasn't all too satisfied with some hopelessly outdated packages. |
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13:15.46 | xorond | armin, I get that feeling :) |
13:16.00 | armin | xorond: what annoyed you? the additional entries in the menus? |
13:16.25 | armin | well systemd and kde are the biggest show stoppers for me right now. |
13:16.31 | xorond | armin, mostly the NVIDIA drivers and all the bloatware |
13:16.37 | armin | i get hanging reboots on ALL of my systems, no matter the distribution, with systemd. |
13:16.45 | xorond | armin, even with kali light it still has the nvidia issues |
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13:17.14 | armin | xorond: ah, see, i moved to x220's exclusively many many years ago because i couldn't stand the nvidia/ati fubar anymore. |
13:17.26 | xorond | haha :) |
13:17.41 | armin | xorond: i think i only used x220's for 5 years now. |
13:17.49 | xorond | armin, it was much easier to install the drivers on arch because I knew what was on my system |
13:17.53 | r6ku | Delf: same here, xfce is my goto DE, my computer is too slow for kde :/ |
13:18.05 | xorond | but on kali you don't exactly know what's on it all the time |
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13:18.16 | armin | xorond: this machine here is actually built from spare parts i had lying around. i5, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd, 256 additional ssd, new keyboard, new battery, works absolutely fine. |
13:18.25 | tjcarter | systemd could be so cool. It winds up not being, but it could be. |
13:18.38 | xorond | armin, that's some nice ram ^^ |
13:18.39 | Delf | r6ku: Do you take donations? :) |
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13:19.04 | armin | xorond: the machines case is almost falling apart |
13:19.09 | xorond | armin, are you a kali dev? |
13:19.10 | armin | xorond: but works 100% fine |
13:19.17 | armin | xorond: no, i just use it. |
13:19.32 | r6ku | Delf: nah, I just like to help :) |
13:19.34 | xorond | ah, i thought that because of the custom iso thing armin |
13:19.53 | armin | xorond: ah, well, they have this here: git://git.kali.org/live-build-config.git |
13:20.13 | Delf | r6ku: Well, you could help me "get rid" of a few computer parts, if you don't mind :P Do you use stationary or laptop? |
13:20.19 | armin | xorond: and there's a build.sh script and you can easily modify some files to include/exclude packages or even files you want to be present in the file system. |
13:20.29 | armin | xorond: it's quite useful. |
13:20.33 | tjcarter | I may have to get a new key in a Debian keyring. netatalk in Debian is _sad_. |
13:20.34 | xorond | armin,TIL kali has a build script |
13:20.41 | tjcarter | It needs someone to make it happy :) |
13:21.09 | r6ku | Delf: I'm not a recycling center :p |
13:21.23 | tjcarter | poked at policy, fair bit's changed in a dozen or so years, but meh. |
13:21.30 | wewlad | hello debs, how do I put ssh_agent to get executed at the start of the system so that I would need to write-in passphrase only once per whole PC session? |
13:21.30 | Delf | r6ku: No strings and/or subtle obligations attached :) |
13:21.40 | armin | xorond: i just use that A LOT, for almost anything, bootstrapping systems, debugging, admin work, hacking, live environments, but of course also for initial installation of systems. |
13:22.09 | xorond | armin, why kali? i get the hacking bit but for what else? |
13:22.19 | r6ku | Delf: give them to your relatives or friends, that's how I've dealt with old unused hardware |
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13:22.40 | xorond | Because in my opinion it's not a distro you install on your machine unless you are a pentester and its your work machine |
13:22.52 | xorond | It's something to run off of a liveusb imo |
13:23.09 | armin | xorond: it's a pretty decent distro, that's it. i love to use it because i get a recent kernel, rolling release, it's based on debian, the maintainers do a very good job and produce sane code, and services are never started just because i install a package. |
13:23.20 | Delf | r6ku: I donated a computer to mom when I got multi-seat working on my other computer :) And all of my friends have far better hardware than I have :) Most of the hardware I have is donated to me :P |
13:23.36 | armin | xorond: i can easily remove the hacking tools if i would actually want. |
13:23.41 | xorond | armin, I see |
13:23.57 | tjcarter | 'course the problem with netatalk is that I need the features of netatalk 2, and I don't really need the features of netatalk 3. But I can at least make netatalk 2 work, netatalk 3 work, and make them conflict/replace each other so you can pick one. :P |
13:24.28 | Delf | r6ku: I've ordered an socket 771 motherboard. When I get it to work, I have no more need for my current motherboard (asus commando with xeon bios mod). |
13:24.40 | tjcarter | Eventually if I can get their databases to work together, I'll pull the non-DDP ethernet out of netatalk 2 and make the two install in parallel. |
13:24.45 | armin | xorond: i would not use gnome it ships with anyways and just go with something lightweight i throw together, so while i'm at customizing my environments, why not also build cool live iso images i can easily put on a usb stick with that while i'm at it? |
13:25.08 | xorond | armin, thats really cool |
13:25.19 | xorond | maybe you would want to look into archstrike as well |
13:25.33 | armin | xorond: it's easy to do and great fun. eventually i'd just include an encrypted ssh private key i can ssh into some of my boxes into. |
13:25.45 | armin | xorond: never heard of it, i'll check it out. thank you! |
13:25.55 | xorond | armin, np ^^ |
13:26.16 | armin | s/into\./with\./ |
13:26.35 | xorond | armin, yeah i was gonna do that ^^ |
13:26.47 | r6ku | Delf: thanks, but no thanks :) |
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13:29.35 | Delf | r6ku: You're welcome! :D |
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13:33.09 | saunamees | Hi I am trying to build a small private cloud ( up to 24 nodes) . What cloud software alternatives I should consider ? Everywhere I look I just see - Use openstack. |
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13:33.57 | xorond | saunamees, owncloud? |
13:34.44 | saunamees | Owncloud is just for filesystem, no ? |
13:35.07 | xorond | https://owncloud.org/ saunamees |
13:35.17 | saunamees | I mostly need computing instances |
13:35.24 | armin | since someone asked me for this some time ago: this is the xtheme script i wrote, to choose xresources terminal color schemes on the fly: http://unix.porn/xtheme.png - if someone is interested: https://github.com/netzverweigerer/xtheme |
13:35.25 | xorond | hmm |
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13:35.51 | themill | maybe describe what you need without buzzwords but in terms of things that are implementable |
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13:36.58 | saunamees | Yeah, owncloud does not work for me. I need to build a small private cloud, where I mostly give out vm-s for others to use. |
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13:37.19 | saunamees | like a class where each student gets their own virtual machine. |
13:37.20 | teraflops | saunamees: proxmoxVE |
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13:38.32 | Mathisen | saunamees, https://cloudstack.apache.org/ maybe |
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13:40.23 | saunamees | Oh yes, these are good. |
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13:52.22 | bumbar | with static ip i can just change address (and mask, gateway) in interfaces, reload networking and new ip address should be in effect? |
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14:10.15 | Walakea | what can cause my HDD to go 8 °C hotter that usual while doing the same things i always do? |
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14:16.30 | cisc | A day 8 °C hotter than usual |
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14:18.29 | Walakea | it started some time after i installed gnome-power-manager but remains even after uninstall and reboot |
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14:19.41 | teraflops | ^ |
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14:20.56 | teraflops | Walakea: unless you live inside a bunker or under a mountain I guess cisc had a point :P |
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14:22.44 | cisc | Walakea: maybe faulty temp sensor inside the HDD |
14:23.00 | Walakea | i have a laptop and i can feel it is hotter |
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14:23.42 | Walakea | this happeden few times in the past but i still dont know what causes it |
14:24.05 | teraflops | Walakea: hmm, some update of related packages as in linux-image or similar? |
14:24.34 | cisc | Walakea: you can always run another distro off a live USB key and see if you get he sam behaviour |
14:24.35 | saunamees | Maybe looking at what exactly uses a lot of cpu might give a clue ? |
14:24.45 | saunamees | use a command like top or something. |
14:24.57 | saunamees | Would be nice to see what you had before and what you have now. |
14:25.30 | Walakea | i am running debian stable only, for about half a year |
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14:26.16 | saunamees | I am not sure what gnome-power-manager does, but what if it changed the fan speed to save power -> cpu is less cooled -> it get hotter ? |
14:26.59 | teraflops | Walakea: yeah take a look at hdparm |
14:27.09 | Walakea | that tool is for monitoring battery |
14:27.17 | teraflops | hdparm? |
14:27.19 | Walakea | also i should mention i am using hdparm |
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14:28.08 | Walakea | i always set -B 200 on startup, because the laptop uses to park / unpark the heads very frequently with default settings |
14:29.12 | teraflops | Walakea: yeah and it's annoying |
14:29.13 | saunamees | cisc suggested a good idea, have you tried that ? |
14:29.32 | Walakea | i dont have time for a live distro |
14:29.45 | Walakea | part of the reason i chose debian stable |
14:30.05 | saunamees | are you 100 % certain it is software issue ? |
14:31.27 | Walakea | i know external temperature will influence HDD temp. but currently there is really no reson for it to be that high |
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14:32.34 | TomTomTosch | how high is high? and what's your room temp? |
14:32.52 | Walakea | but i really dont know what can influence the temp. i mean the HDD is running at full speed all the time |
14:33.44 | Walakea | usually the temp is 30 - 32 |
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14:33.58 | Walakea | now it is 38 - 39 |
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14:34.14 | NYTimes | i just took a debian server but what is the root password ? |
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14:55.07 | Mathisen | NYTimes, ? |
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14:56.47 | NYTimes | Mathisen: yes |
14:57.15 | NYTimes | Mathisen: its allright the root has no password |
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14:59.01 | transhuman | hi is cp -R dumb enough to recursively copy into its own directory over and over again ? |
14:59.32 | neutersh | \away almoçando |
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15:00.26 | transhuman | seems like its taking a long time to do a large copy so I am worried |
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15:04.26 | Sir_Designer | transhuman what exact syntax did you issue |
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15:05.25 | jelly | transhuman: cp: cannot copy a directory, âaâ, into itself, âa/e/aâ |
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15:07.26 | TxGVNN | hi everyone, What does priority mean in update-alternatives? |
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15:09.35 | transhuman | ok thanks jelly Sir_Designer |
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15:09.44 | transhuman | just checking getting nervous |
15:10.06 | transhuman | cp -R /path when path contains a sub path with current directory |
15:10.40 | transhuman | trying to move files up one level basically |
15:10.42 | transhuman | thanks |
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15:16.27 | jelly | TxGVNN: highest priority gets chosen in auto mode |
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15:17.27 | TxGVNN | jelly: Oh, Yep, how to change priority of it? |
15:17.37 | transhuman | can anyone tell me why the guests networking would have such poor packet delay and loss when using virtualbricks? If I can't resolve it it will be a show stopper using it on my xen/kvm live cd I am designing. Thanks in advance |
15:18.02 | jelly | TxGVNN: you'd have to remove the alternative and add it again with a different priority |
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15:19.09 | jelly | TxGVNN: this is only relevant from a package developer point, since as user you'll probably just pick your favorite with manual mode |
15:19.28 | TxGVNN | jelly: Ok ok. Thank you very much! |
15:19.44 | transhuman | oh crap have to run out for 10 minutes be back in a few to see responses... thanks in advance |
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16:01.19 | rakmaq | Hi. I face a problem with a deb package. If I install the deb package foo with dpkg it works fine, but the next time I try to install an application using "apt-get install" it complains that I have to run "apt-get install -f". If I do this it will get the latest version of foo from debian's repositories. I tried pinning the version of foo by using "apt-mark hold foo", but that didn't seem to fix the problem. Does anyone have an idea how I might fix this? |
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16:08.08 | awal1 | rakmaq, which debian branch? |
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16:08.40 | rakmaq | I am using Debian Jessie. Raspbian Jessie to be precise. |
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16:10.18 | awal1 | dpkg: Raspbian |
16:10.19 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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16:10.48 | rakmaq | Hmmm... ok. Fair enough. |
16:11.21 | awal1 | rakmaq, seems that there is a channel for raspbian , check it |
16:11.25 | transhuman | hi disregarding my last question for a few moments a more pressing question, scripting an install right now, its a long series of apt-get commands and others a few of the packages produce text outputs that require a (q ) to be entered in order to continue with install and others require a menu selection of options (is there a way to preselect one of these options so that one isn't prompted during install? one is for wire |
16:11.25 | transhuman | shark the other not sure but its just a text file prompt of package info |
16:11.45 | rakmaq | awal1: will do. thanks. |
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16:12.35 | rakmaq | transhuman: which commands specifically require user input? |
16:13.30 | transhuman | apt-get install wireshark i think and the other not sure at this point but it has a text file notificiation of information that you enter a q for continued apt-get install execution |
16:13.54 | transhuman | not sure what the second package is though |
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16:15.14 | rakmaq | you might want to try "apt-get install -y wireshark" |
16:15.52 | transhuman | tried that still prompts |
16:16.00 | transhuman | gives a menu |
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16:16.26 | transhuman | have to look at it again for more specifics will come back when I have more details |
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16:16.53 | rakmaq | ok |
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16:54.53 | travis_ | yo I downloaded this program from github called cool-retro-term and its sweet... how can I create a launcher for it in gnome so I dont have to open it in terminal with ./ |
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16:56.53 | teraflops | travis_: https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en ? |
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16:58.43 | travis_ | i cant get that page to load -_- |
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16:59.01 | travis_ | nvm |
16:59.04 | teraflops | weird |
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17:00.54 | travis_ | do i cp /home/xxxxxx.desktop /usr/share/applications |
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17:01.23 | g105b | Is there some way I can remove/toggle the File,Edit,View menu from all applications? |
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17:04.00 | travis_ | I did sudo cp /home/travis/cool-retro-term/cool-retro-term.desktop /usr/share/applications but I still can't open it from gnome app menu |
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17:11.15 | BinBasher | is anyone using metasploit? How do I get the module database cache to build automatically? |
17:11.33 | vlt | Hello. A server running Debian had lost its network connection. I could connect to a serial console and see that everything was running fine, even networking between virtual machines running inside via a bridge device worked fine. There was nothing ethX related in any logfile. Neither re-plugging the network cable nor power-cycling the network switch helped. |
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17:11.39 | vlt | I had to reboot the machine. |
17:11.54 | vlt | Any idea what could have caused and and how to prevent this? |
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17:37.35 | jonathan_zz | vlt: personally I have only had it happen to due a bad route due to a VPN that pushed its route (redirect-gateway def1) to it. |
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17:40.40 | mon | hi. i want to run this command: apt-get install libhtml-scrubber-perl libjson-rpc-perl libdaemon-generic-perl but i got error msg like this: E: Unable to locate package libdaemon-generic-perl |
17:40.50 | mon | how to fix this? |
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17:41.33 | teraflops | ,v libdaemon-generic-perl |
17:41.34 | judd | Package: libdaemon-generic-perl on amd64 -- sid: 0.84-1; stretch: 0.84-1 |
17:41.59 | mon | teraflops : err ... what about that? |
17:42.00 | teraflops | mon: are you on jessie? |
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17:42.42 | mon | yes. Jessie |
17:42.52 | teraflops | then re-read it again :P |
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17:43.34 | mon | errrr ... |
17:44.10 | mon | sorry. not an expert . can u guide me? |
17:44.18 | teraflops | mon: sorry I don't get you. for the sake of clarity: there's no libdaemon-generic-perl in jessie |
17:44.38 | mon | ah. so i can't install bugzilla on Jessie? |
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17:44.48 | mon | one of the bugzilla requirement is that thing. |
17:44.51 | mon | sigh :( |
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17:46.03 | donnoc | Hello my friends :) ... is it really a bad idea to change the hostname on a running server? |
17:46.51 | ZorroT | donnoc: generally it's fine. |
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17:47.08 | ZorroT | donnoc: you may have to restart things like avahi to get the changes to stick. |
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17:47.24 | ZorroT | er to take |
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17:47.55 | donnoc | Zerant: thanks. just to be shure. I only have to chage /etc/hostname and /etc/hosty, right? |
17:47.57 | mon | any advice? |
17:47.58 | teraflops | donnoc: not really but you can get annoying warnings like cannot resolve whatever (host), it will resolve though |
17:48.07 | teraflops | mon: sorry not here |
17:48.14 | mon | ok thanks teraflops |
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17:48.49 | teraflops | donnoc: you mean /etc/hosts right? |
17:49.05 | donnoc | teraflops: sorry, yes that's what I ment |
17:49.18 | ZorroT | anyone know anything about setting isolating features on different network interfaces? |
17:49.21 | markybob | donnoc: http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
17:49.35 | ZorroT | eg, being able to run hostapd on one side, and connect to a router on the other? |
17:49.41 | ZorroT | er router/modem |
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17:50.56 | donnoc | markybob: I would change hostname and hosty and restart the server afterwords. so I don't have to restart every prozess. Isn't that enought? |
17:51.15 | teraflops | hmm that wiki entry does not mention hostnamectl |
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17:52.39 | donnoc | ok, I think i will not change the hostname xD |
17:52.53 | donnoc | seemt like too many things can go wrong |
17:52.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | MTP is giving me trouble on Debian stable, trying to transfer files with special characters through nautilus breaks the connection. I'll have to replug the device to be able to access it again. |
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17:53.39 | KaffeeJunky123 | From rhythmbox however I can transfer these files, but the connection dies after some time |
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17:55.42 | teraflops | donnoc: `sudo hostnamectl set-hostname new-hostname` logout and login again worked fine _here_. |
17:56.14 | markybob | and restart all services or reboot |
17:56.32 | markybob | just my opinion |
17:56.35 | teraflops | markybob: ah |
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18:00.32 | teraflops | hmm I've tried several times to get a working account for editing debian wiki with no success :S |
18:00.33 | donnoc | teraflops: hmm ... I worry after the stuff I read before xD maybe I will try it tomorrow |
18:00.50 | teraflops | donnoc: fair enough, just saying |
18:01.34 | markybob | teraflops: hrm. i didn't have any problem. maybe #debian-www? |
18:01.56 | teraflops | markybob: lucky you, when did you setup your account? |
18:02.14 | markybob | teraflops: long time ago :P don't even remember |
18:02.17 | teraflops | ah |
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18:03.35 | donnoc | teraflops: thank you :) |
18:03.39 | teraflops | donnoc: np |
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18:46.15 | Walakea | is it possible to fully automate package creating proccess? |
18:46.40 | grawity | as in, creating .deb out of the debian/* files? |
18:46.45 | markybob | not properly |
18:46.57 | markybob | you can use something like alien to convert rpms for example |
18:46.59 | grawity | or as in creating the debian/* files out of something else |
18:47.01 | Walakea | from source |
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18:47.39 | Walakea | creating .deb from makefiles |
18:47.45 | Walakea | for example |
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18:47.58 | TomTomTosch | for convenience? there is checkinstall. |
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18:49.16 | TomTomTosch | but that's to be able to easily remove it, if that is what you are after. |
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18:50.09 | Walakea | mostly |
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19:03.44 | sine0 | is arping a common tool found on alot of boxes ? |
19:04.00 | dioz | no |
19:04.25 | dioz | ore common would be pinging the broadcast |
19:04.32 | dioz | :s/ore/more/ |
19:05.08 | dioz | IE. assuming my lan is 192.168.0.0/24 |
19:05.16 | dioz | i'd ping 192.168.0.255 |
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19:06.03 | dioz | that's assuming the machines you're network discoverying don't block icmp |
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19:06.43 | sine0 | yea im trying to think non ping ways |
19:08.32 | dioz | i'd say arping would be as common to find on a system as nmap |
19:08.35 | dioz | *shrug* |
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19:08.40 | sine0 | k |
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19:09.32 | markybob | dioz: how is arp not common? it's default on debian |
19:09.56 | dioz | i believe the specific binary he's asking about is _arping_ |
19:10.19 | dioz | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/net/arping |
19:10.23 | markybob | i see |
19:10.24 | sine0 | im wondering about host discovery without nmap on hosts that refuse to respond ping |
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19:10.40 | dioz | markybob: stop talking out your ass you're just confusing things |
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19:11.47 | dioz | OpenBSD eve1.localdomain 5.9 GENERIC#1761 amd64 |
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19:12.00 | markybob | dioz: no, arping is default too |
19:12.15 | markybob | heh |
19:12.33 | markybob | another /ignore |
19:12.34 | dioz | doesn't seem to be default install on openbsd |
19:12.36 | dioz | lets check fbsd |
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19:12.58 | dioz | lets check cent and suse after |
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19:13.46 | dioz | oh look it's common on 1 of the 5 virtual machines i have up |
19:13.49 | dioz | so VERY common |
19:13.54 | dioz | ^5 markybob |
19:14.22 | TomTomTosch | checks which channel he is in |
19:14.44 | dioz | TomTomTosch: regardless the channel that wasn't his question |
19:14.54 | dioz | lets break down the line of text for a second |
19:15.10 | dioz | 13:03 < sine0> is arping a common tool found on alot of boxes ? |
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19:16.20 | dioz | minus the fact "a lot" is spelled incorrect |
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19:17.00 | dioz | seems pretty straight forward to me |
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19:40.46 | sine0 | YEA |
19:40.51 | sine0 | lets break down this line of text |
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19:40.54 | lux7676 | hello everyone, im having a weird issue with newest debian version |
19:41.05 | sine0 | dont mention is lux7676 you might start a nerd fight |
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19:41.36 | lux7676 | when i type the login info it says |
19:41.36 | lux7676 | : |
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19:41.52 | lux7676 | the last login date |
19:42.24 | lux7676 | the programs included with the debian gnu/linux system are free software..... |
19:42.26 | sine0 | last long from arpa.2.35.68.10shezign.province.cn |
19:42.39 | lux7676 | everything shows in the terminal |
19:42.44 | lux7676 | and the last thin what says |
19:42.45 | lux7676 | is |
19:43.07 | lux7676 | user@user:~$ |
19:43.20 | lux7676 | i cant not login |
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19:43.22 | lux7676 | why ? |
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19:44.01 | jmcnaught | lux7676: you get a bash prompt, doesn't that mean you're logged in? |
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19:44.35 | lux7676 | well ok bash prompt but where is the system |
19:44.47 | lux7676 | like i dont know how to exit it |
19:45.07 | jmcnaught | lux7676: you can exit bash with "exit". are you expecting a graphical login? |
19:45.07 | lux7676 | like i remember after installing older version it went right to the system after typing pw |
19:45.39 | lux7676 | yes i was expecting graphical login but it does not matter |
19:45.43 | lux7676 | i did type the user name and pw |
19:45.53 | lux7676 | why is they system in bash prompt |
19:45.53 | lux7676 | ? |
19:46.20 | lux7676 | this is literally the newest version... |
19:46.26 | markybob | because that's what normally happens. you have to install a graphical interface if you want one. i'm assuming you used netinst and didn't select it |
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19:46.50 | jmcnaught | lux7676: is this the first time booting into a fresh install? did you install a graphical desktop? also please try not to hit <enter> so much, you'll be difficult to follow when more people are talking |
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19:47.55 | lux7676 | yes this is the first time, i did create the iso file with some iso image program |
19:48.03 | lux7676 | should i start over again ? |
19:48.15 | lux7676 | or should i make a new iso again ? |
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19:48.26 | babilen | Sounds as if you didn't install Gnome (desktop environment) |
19:48.30 | babilen | dpkg: install gnome |
19:48.30 | dpkg | To install GNOME: «apt-get install â¦Â» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
19:48.34 | babilen | lux7676: Do ^ |
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19:49.30 | babilen | My personaly preference is "5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended)." but you might deem that too minimal. On the other hand you can always install other software later. |
19:50.03 | TomTomTosch | using some iso image program could be the reason things didn't install correctly. usually gnome is selected as default, you would have to unselect it manually. |
19:50.30 | markybob | TomTomTosch: i dont remember netinst doing that. |
19:50.56 | TomTomTosch | hmm, let me check. |
19:51.36 | lux7676 | this is the iso that i downloaded |
19:51.37 | lux7676 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
19:51.53 | lux7676 | maybe the file is corrupt or something because its like 260mb |
19:52.00 | babilen | lux7676: Yeah, did you tick the "Desktop enviroment" checkbox in the "Install software" dialogue ? |
19:52.01 | markybob | lux7676: yeah. so just install task-gnome-desktop if you want the full gnome experience |
19:52.19 | lux7676 | hmm |
19:52.26 | r6ku | what markybob said |
19:52.29 | lux7676 | let me start over again.... |
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19:52.40 | markybob | you really don't have to... |
19:52.51 | babilen | That pulls in everything and the kitchen sink though |
19:52.51 | lux7676 | ? |
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19:53.14 | markybob | lux7676: apt-get install task-gnome-desktop as root will do the same thing as reinstalling and picking gnome |
19:53.25 | lux7676 | ok |
19:53.26 | babilen | lux7676: The only thing that is missing is the installation of Gnome. You could just enter "apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment" and you would be done. |
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19:54.30 | lux7676 | could not open file (13 permission denied) |
19:54.30 | babilen | There are different packages and task-desktop-gnome is that largest that pulls in everything and the kitchen sink. I personally like to start with something smaller and simply install what I want later on. |
19:54.33 | lux7676 | are you a root ? |
19:54.40 | babilen | Well, are you? |
19:54.42 | lux7676 | yes because i already typed the pw |
19:54.48 | markybob | the answer is you're not |
19:54.49 | markybob | su |
19:54.51 | lux7676 | but why is aksing me this questions ? |
19:54.53 | babilen | You are logged in as root? |
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19:55.05 | r6ku | lux7676: you need super user(root) to install packages |
19:55.11 | lux7676 | oh |
19:55.24 | lux7676 | what should i do now ? |
19:55.27 | babilen | So, run "su", enter your root password and try again |
19:55.28 | lux7676 | sorry im bad with the terminal |
19:55.31 | lux7676 | ok |
19:55.47 | markybob | lux7676: apt-get install task-gnome-desktop |
19:55.52 | lux7676 | authentication failure |
19:56.06 | lux7676 | ok |
19:56.09 | lux7676 | now it work |
19:56.11 | lux7676 | works |
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19:56.18 | lux7676 | one moment |
19:56.24 | markybob | lux7676: then reboot |
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19:58.42 | lux7676 | building dependency tree |
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19:58.52 | lux7676 | reading state information... done |
19:59.07 | lux7676 | E unable to locate package gnome-desktop-environment |
19:59.19 | lux7676 | should i restart anyway? |
19:59.22 | markybob | lux7676: that's not what i told you to do was it? |
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19:59.59 | lux7676 | pt-get install task-gnome-desktop |
20:00.00 | lux7676 | this ? |
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20:00.09 | lux7676 | apt* |
20:00.28 | babilen | dpkg: jessie sources.list |
20:00.29 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
20:00.32 | markybob | lux7676: right. gnome-desktop-environmen is only in oldstable. not jessie |
20:00.36 | r6ku | lux7676: yes, that one |
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20:00.48 | lux7676 | same thing but now it says |
20:00.59 | lux7676 | unable to locate package gnome-desktop |
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20:01.21 | babilen | markybob: Time to edit that factoid :) |
20:01.50 | TomTomTosch | lux7676: read again. |
20:02.47 | awal1 | lux7676, try updating first. run: apt-get update && apt-get install task-gnome-desktop |
20:03.01 | lux7676 | ok one moment |
20:03.19 | TomTomTosch | it's a fresh install. all you have to do is type it correctly. |
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20:04.35 | babilen | Great, I broke dpkg |
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20:05.16 | awal1 | lux7676, maybe you're not typing correctly , so copy/paste |
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20:05.23 | lux7676 | btw |
20:05.26 | awal1 | apt-get update && apt-get install task-gnome-desktop |
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20:05.40 | lux7676 | do i have to be connected to the internet ? |
20:05.44 | markybob | yes |
20:05.45 | lux7676 | cuz its same message |
20:05.47 | markybob | you used netinst |
20:06.05 | lux7676 | oh.... |
20:06.19 | markybob | that means "network installation" |
20:06.24 | lux7676 | well anyway i can do this offline |
20:06.36 | lux7676 | sorry i misundestanded |
20:06.39 | markybob | you download the gnome iso if that's what you want |
20:06.43 | lux7676 | i think this is what i downloaded wrong |
20:06.53 | lux7676 | i did create iso file |
20:06.59 | awal1 | lux7676, your apt sources file is ok? |
20:07.02 | lux7676 | but maybe i picked the wrong version |
20:07.14 | markybob | yes you certainly did if you want gnome offline |
20:07.14 | lux7676 | how can i check this awal1 |
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20:07.25 | lux7676 | i need to be able to install this offline |
20:07.33 | TomTomTosch | don't bother. you can't. |
20:07.33 | lux7676 | i cant connect to the internet |
20:07.44 | lux7676 | this is on another computer... |
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20:08.07 | awal1 | lux7676, run in terminal: cat /etc/apt/sources.list copy and paste it in paste.debian.net |
20:08.19 | lux7676 | ok |
20:08.23 | lux7676 | one moment |
20:08.24 | TomTomTosch | he still has no internet connection. |
20:09.04 | TomTomTosch | his sources.list is fine, it's a fresh install... |
20:09.15 | lux7676 | no such file or directory |
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20:09.48 | awal1 | he may have skipped sources config during install |
20:09.55 | markybob | how does it matter? |
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20:10.00 | markybob | it's netinst with no net |
20:10.11 | lux7676 | im worry that this is not full vesion yeah markybob |
20:10.17 | lux7676 | i need like the 650 mb version |
20:10.21 | markybob | lux7676: yeah, you're right |
20:10.27 | lux7676 | so im able to do it without the internet |
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20:10.51 | lux7676 | i will make a new iso file with the right version |
20:11.02 | TomTomTosch | download the dvd then. |
20:11.04 | awal1 | without internet you will need dvd image , 1 gb + |
20:11.16 | markybob | lux7676: TomTomTosch is right. you probably should do dvd |
20:11.28 | lux7676 | i undesrstand |
20:11.33 | lux7676 | yeah i will make iso file |
20:11.49 | jmcnaught | or you know, get the installer to connect to the internet |
20:11.49 | babilen | lux7676: You cannot connect the computer to the internet while you are installing or you can't connect to the internet now? (or both) |
20:12.23 | markybob | i think we're all assuming he just doesn't it have it since he didn't mention it "couldn't" |
20:12.27 | lux7676 | i cant connect to the internet |
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20:12.44 | lux7676 | im using two different computers |
20:12.44 | babilen | At all? |
20:13.00 | lux7676 | yes at all because the wifi card is not confgured.. |
20:13.08 | markybob | oh lord |
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20:13.24 | markybob | nap time |
20:13.39 | babilen | lux7676: The installer should be able to connect to your wifi just fine. Did you configure it during the installation? |
20:13.43 | awal1 | lux7676, if amd64 (64 bit) go to http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
20:13.47 | lux7676 | could somone give me the full offline version to the debain 64 bit iso |
20:13.50 | awal1 | 3,7 gb |
20:13.56 | b0s3d | hello, i want to change the behavior of "Files" browser, i want to find something instead of searching for it |
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20:15.03 | lux7676 | oh wow |
20:15.11 | babilen | b0s3d: You find things by searching for them |
20:15.13 | lux7676 | awal1 thanks |
20:15.21 | lux7676 | babilen yes |
20:15.25 | lux7676 | but it did not detect it |
20:15.32 | awal1 | I have used dvd1 when jessie release and that iso image dont include any DE, internet is needed for downlad the choosen DE in tasksel step. I dont know if things have changed since then... |
20:15.41 | lux7676 | question |
20:16.00 | lux7676 | i remember downloading debain 7.9 it was like 650mb for the full iso |
20:16.07 | lux7676 | this is debian-8.4.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 2016-04-02 17:59 3.7G |
20:16.10 | b0s3d | babilen: lets use the internet browser for an example, by search i refer to google, by find i refer to ctrl+f |
20:16.16 | lux7676 | more than 4 times |
20:16.32 | lux7676 | what are the differences |
20:16.36 | lux7676 | between those two |
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20:18.06 | babilen | b0s3d: You mean that you want to restrict the search to the current directory? |
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20:18.19 | TomTomTosch | markybob, as a side note: desktop environment is selected. it pulls gnome. so selecting gnome does exactly nothing :D |
20:18.20 | awal1 | lux7676, please go to https://www.debian.org/distrib/ and learn there |
20:18.30 | lux7676 | ok |
20:18.33 | b0s3d | babilen, have you had ubuntu before? |
20:18.38 | babilen | No |
20:18.56 | babilen | I have been using Debian since 2001, never saw the need to switch |
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20:19.08 | jmcnaught | lux7676: it sounds like you might have a wifi adapter that needs a special firmware. We can help you determine that if you tell us the pciid (looks like [1234:abcd]) for your card from the output of this command: "lspci -nn | grep -i net". |
20:19.21 | babilen | jmcnaught++ |
20:19.52 | b0s3d | alright, ehm.. instead of searching the dir i am in (this will make me find sub dirs too, which i don't want to) i would like to just scan the dir for the word i am searching for |
20:19.52 | jmcnaught | lux7676: otherwise it might be easiest to simply connect this computer with an ethernet cable during the install (and use the netinst image you already have), then figure out the wifi drivers after the first boot |
20:19.53 | Atm0spher1c | I'm trying to add shutdown and restart options to xfce. Seems I need to add my user to the power group. There is no power group though, do I just make one? |
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20:20.00 | b0s3d | babilen ^ |
20:20.13 | r6ku | nice timing there :p |
20:20.22 | babilen | b0s3d: Yeah, so restrict it to the current directory and not search recursively? |
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20:20.44 | b0s3d | babilen: yeah i guess :) |
20:21.18 | babilen | Not sure that's possible, but lets see .. |
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20:22.02 | Atm0spher1c | And is there a list of groups and the meaning of each? Couldn't find any info on it. |
20:22.07 | b0s3d | babilen: i am using gnome 3 btw |
20:22.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell Atm0spher1c -about groups |
20:22.33 | lux7676 | <PROTECTED> |
20:22.54 | babilen | b0s3d: Yeah, I think that the recursive search is normal in nautilus (what they now call "files", but nautilis is a lot easier to google for) |
20:23.20 | b0s3d | alright, thanks for the hit |
20:23.23 | b0s3d | hint |
20:23.24 | awal1 | Atm0spher1c, why you haven't those features under xfce DE? have you did a custom debian/xfce installation? |
20:24.42 | lux7676 | any better explanations why is newest version of debian 6 times more than 7.9 version ? |
20:25.22 | awal1 | Atm0spher1c, on a standard debian install all those stuff (group permissions, shutdown feature...) are auto configured |
20:25.38 | r6ku | lux7676: it isn't, there are 700mb cd images of debian 8 if you want them |
20:25.44 | jmcnaught | lux7676: okay, not the pciid but the firmware installer doesn't include broadcom firmwares. The easiest thing to do is connect ethernet cable during the install. Or use one of the larger installer discs that includes more packages, but you will still need a network connection to get your wifi working (or manually copy some files) |
20:25.51 | Atm0spher1c | awal1: Yes I did. Maybe I should have just selected xfce at install. Can't remember exactly, but I think I did that for lxde and there were no shutdown, supend either. I should double check but I reinstalled several times already. |
20:25.58 | babilen | b0s3d: You can open dconf-editor and then take a look at org>gnome>nautlis>preferences -- I have a "enable recursive search" checkbox there. I have absolutely no idea if you could trigger that kind of search with different key combinations |
20:26.20 | babilen | b0s3d: nautilus naturally (not nautlis) |
20:26.27 | awal1 | Atm0spher1c, are you with Jessie? |
20:26.32 | lux7676 | hmm jmcnaught |
20:26.46 | Atm0spher1c | awal1: I had a debian wheezy lxde that I installed manually and had those shutdown and suspend options. Then when I did a fresh jessie install, those options werent available. So I'm now trying xfce |
20:27.30 | lux7676 | r6ku but will they include all the packages like for the wifi to work? |
20:27.39 | jmcnaught | lux7676: this problem is caused because broadcom forbids redistribution of the firmware files required to use their wifi adapter. |
20:27.51 | lux7676 | oh |
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20:28.17 | lux7676 | jmcnaught but for some reason with ubuntu it did work |
20:28.22 | lux7676 | any reason why ? |
20:28.26 | Atm0spher1c | another interesting note, on the wheezy install the initial user I created at setup has all the normal groups. Then I created another user which I just realized isn't assigned to any groups. But audio, video, and everything works. |
20:28.37 | awal1 | Atm0spher1c, all what you said is "weird" for me. as I said your issue shouldn't exist in a normal debian installation |
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20:28.54 | genoobie | Hey all |
20:29.03 | Atm0spher1c | it is weird |
20:29.32 | Atm0spher1c | How about the user that's in no groups, yet audio, video and everything works fine in lxde on wheezy |
20:29.34 | b0s3d | babilen: awesome 'trick' mate, but i don't see no "enable recursive search" in there |
20:29.35 | r6ku | lux7676: debian doesn't come with non-free firmware by default, there is a firmware netinst image though http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.4.0/amd64/bt-cd/firmware-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent |
20:29.48 | grawity | Atm0spher1c: udev sets device ACLs for you |
20:30.27 | Atm0spher1c | grawity: what does that exactly mean? |
20:30.33 | grawity | it's somewhat related to the ability to suspend |
20:30.44 | r6ku | lux7676: oops, wrong link, here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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20:31.03 | grawity | Atm0spher1c: try `getfacl /dev/snd/pcm*` and see |
20:31.09 | jmcnaught | lux7676: it's either because canonical gets permission to redistribute the firmwares, or they simply don't care and break the rules. Debian doesn't break rules like that |
20:31.33 | jmcnaught | r6ku: that installer is helpful, but it doesn't include all firmwares (notably the broadcom ones) |
20:31.42 | r6ku | oh :( |
20:32.18 | lux7676 | r6ku thanks |
20:32.29 | lux7676 | jmcnaught wonder why they dont /// |
20:33.21 | babilen | b0s3d: I guess that we are using different versions (I'm on unstable) -- Pity! |
20:33.24 | jmcnaught | lux7676: anyways.. if you can plug your computer into an ethernet cable during the install and the first few minutes after, that will be the easiest. |
20:33.29 | lux7676 | r6ku but |
20:33.42 | lux7676 | i wont be able to use it because no internet .. |
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20:34.32 | awal1 | lux7676, how are you connected to this channel if no internet? |
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20:34.58 | algun | What do I do when I can see my phone in lsusb, but there is not a corresponding virtual file in /dev/, and conversely, it doesn't automount despite USB devices being set up to automount? |
20:35.06 | lux7676 | awal1 public wifi |
20:35.07 | lux7676 | lol |
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20:35.20 | babilen | b0s3d: This is nautilus 3.18.5 -- No idea when they introduced that option. You might want to investigate along those lines and maybe ask some Gnome people. Judging from experience: Gnome applications are rather hard to tinker with. I had hoped that that option would be available in your version also. |
20:35.20 | awal1 | you 're having internet now, so go download the full dvd one and go on with your installation.... |
20:35.46 | awal1 | or buy a debian cd/dvd |
20:36.07 | lux7676 | awal1 i would have to stay there for like whole night ... |
20:36.08 | lux7676 | i need to find a place with fast internet |
20:36.08 | lux7676 | ... |
20:36.11 | awal1 | symbolic price, as explained in the debian link I gave you |
20:36.12 | Atm0spher1c | grawity: interesting. Basically says that user is in the audio group, even though they're not |
20:36.40 | Atm0spher1c | So is there a "power" group in debian? |
20:36.56 | grawity | no it doesn't say that |
20:37.42 | awal1 | Atm0spher1c, just trying to undestand. what happens if you open a terminal and run systemctl suspend, reboot or poweroff ? |
20:37.48 | awal1 | that have any effect? |
20:38.12 | lux7676 | awal1 i will donate to debian community |
20:38.12 | lux7676 | i want to say that i appreciate all the help from people here |
20:38.12 | lux7676 | its hard to see this in real life |
20:38.16 | Atm0spher1c | awal1: yes that works of course, but for other users, they need to be able to click suspend |
20:39.04 | Atm0spher1c | grawity: says # owner: root, # group: audio, and the user listed under that. I don't really understand it |
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20:39.34 | Atm0spher1c | awal1: I'm basically going by this https://wiki.xfce.org/faq#session_manager |
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20:41.39 | grawity | it still talks about hal, so it's ... not exactly up-to-date |
20:41.47 | grawity | unless I guess that's still used on freebsd? |
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20:45.30 | Atm0spher1c | Should we not be using pm-suspend anymore? I always used that and now there's systemd and systemctl. |
20:46.23 | bhurstpdx | anyone tried Debian kfreeBSD? |
20:47.00 | Guest47882 | xfce or lxde for gaming ? |
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20:48.54 | r6ku | Guest47882: either one is fine |
20:49.14 | Guest47882 | ty |
20:49.18 | Paianni | xfce is a bit rough with steam |
20:49.45 | jml2 | bhurstpdx, y did awhile back in vbox.. though i don't know about its current status -- i think the project was suspended for awhile |
20:49.48 | Paianni | infact steam's custom ui is buggy on any de |
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20:50.17 | Paianni | except unity, probably |
20:50.22 | algun | What do I do when I can see my device in lsusb, but there is not a corresponding virtual file in /dev/, and conversely, it doesn't automount despite USB devices being set up to automount? |
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20:50.35 | aricz | no problems with steam here.. using xfce |
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20:55.57 | bob1 | hi all - somehow a zip archive wont open 'an error occured while loading the archive' any suggestions of debian tools to extract good files and deal with corrupt files later? |
20:55.59 | genoobie | aricz, what is steam |
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20:57.15 | genoobie | Paianni, how do you run steam on xfce? |
20:57.17 | aricz | I take it they were talking about Valve's Steam |
20:57.36 | bob1 | and any suggestions on a format similar to osx disk images which rarely failed me, auto checksums - whatnot |
20:57.52 | Paianni | aptitude install steam |
20:58.04 | genoobie | aricz, would AMDTurion 2GHz with 3gb ram be enough.. |
20:58.07 | genoobie | Paianni, thanks |
20:58.24 | Paianni | enable non-free first |
20:58.30 | genoobie | don |
20:58.31 | aricz | hehe, don't think the specs are high for running Steam.. :) |
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20:58.36 | genoobie | done |
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21:00.48 | genoobie | Paianni, I enabled non-free, it says couldn't find steam |
21:00.49 | jmcnaught | https://wiki.debian.org/Steam <--- there are more details here, including enabling multi-arch |
21:02.12 | genoobie | jmcnaught, thanks! |
21:02.31 | genoobie | jmcnaught, still having a bit of a sound issue |
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21:03.36 | travis_ | Hey, while installing debian jessie through netinst I accidentally clicked no to installing 32bit libraries.... is there a way I can install them after installing debian |
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21:04.10 | markybob | !tell travis_ about multiarch |
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21:04.44 | travis_ | thanks markybob always helpful :D |
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21:06.29 | drocsid | I installed Stretch wihtout network access. Now I'm trying to generate a sources list, but get a bunch of Ign lines. is a line like http://debian.org/debian stretch/updates main not valid? |
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21:07.31 | drocsid | anybody? |
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21:08.44 | l0ll1p0p | drocsid: stretch is testing right? |
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21:09.15 | travis_ | yeah |
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21:09.53 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell drocsid about stretch sources.list |
21:09.59 | travis_ | Random question, gnome 3 is super annoying with not having minimize/maximize buttons for windows how can i enable that |
21:10.17 | markybob | also ign is perfectly okay and normal |
21:10.31 | markybob | means nothing changed so no need to download |
21:10.51 | drocsid | jmcnaught: if dpkg isn't around, can you just tell me |
21:10.57 | jmcnaught | drocsid: the dpkg bot just messaged you with an answer. also there is a #debian-next channel on irc.oftc.net that is specifically for testing/unstable, probably get better support there |
21:10.58 | drocsid | ? |
21:11.03 | r6ku | travis_: you can enable the buttons in the tweak tool, open the application menu and search for it |
21:11.23 | grawity | travis_: gnome-tweak-tool; gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout appmenu:minimize,maximize,close |
21:11.37 | jmcnaught | drocsid: check your other tabs/windows in your irc client, see the channel topic for examples of how to interact with the bot |
21:11.47 | genoobie | okay |
21:11.57 | genoobie | here's a stupid question |
21:12.20 | genoobie | When I plug my headphones in there is sound |
21:12.29 | grawity | also, use Super+Up to maximize, Super+H to hide (minimize) |
21:12.38 | genoobie | unplug them, sometimes sound comes out of the speakers and sometimes no.. |
21:12.40 | genoobie | any fix? |
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21:14.28 | travis_ | got it thx |
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21:16.56 | algun | I have to try one last time: I have an android phone listed in lsusb, but not /dev/s*. What do I do? |
21:17.02 | travis_ | So I ran "dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update" but opening steam still says missing 32 libraries steam may not run |
21:17.11 | grawity | ausbin: recent Android devices only speak MTP, not Mass Storage |
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21:20.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | algun, what grawity said |
21:22.03 | Atm0spher1c | travis_: fix your broken depend - apt-get install -f |
21:22.18 | markybob | travis_: well i know you didn't follow the wiki |
21:22.32 | travis_ | I did apt-get install -f |
21:22.38 | markybob | travis_: it tells you to install 32-bilt opengl libraries and tells you exactly how to do it |
21:22.40 | travis_ | no I didnt lmao I just put the command it told me to |
21:22.53 | markybob | travis_: read. https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
21:23.11 | travis_ | damn it I told you reading is my greatest enemy .-. |
21:23.13 | travis_ | jk |
21:24.00 | travis_ | 32 bit is called i386 right |
21:24.07 | markybob | yes |
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21:24.48 | travis_ | wait i have to edit my sources? |
21:25.13 | markybob | travis_: just assume the wiki is 100% correct |
21:25.22 | markybob | travis_: and i have to go. good luck :) |
21:25.56 | travis_ | im confused half way through reading should i APT::Architectures=<x86_64> <i386> |
21:26.00 | travis_ | clear |
21:26.38 | jml2 | !multiarch |
21:26.38 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
21:26.53 | bob1 | wow 'zip -FF indamagedarchive --out outfixedarchive' completely fixed all zipped archive! - thx all! |
21:27.38 | travis_ | jml2 im reading the wiki i said lol |
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21:28.30 | travis_ | I typed the command and changed sources to add i386 i still cant open steam |
21:29.18 | jml2 | oh steam.. |
21:29.25 | jml2 | yeah there are instructions i recall somewhere |
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21:29.51 | jml2 | steam should/would be supported well since SteamOS bases itself off debian |
21:30.18 | travis_ | Right the issue is when I did netinst of jessie I accidentally said no to installing 32 bit libs |
21:30.49 | Atm0spher1c | doesnt matter, you can change it after as you did |
21:31.09 | Atm0spher1c | you're doing something wrong, and not explaining what you're doing |
21:31.22 | travis_ | I did the following >> |
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21:31.37 | Atm0spher1c | basically that wiki should work out just fine |
21:31.43 | Atm0spher1c | uninstall steam and try again |
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21:32.25 | travis_ | downloaded and installed steam .deb file , found it didnt work and followed the wiki ... pkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update.... still didnt work.... then I followed the wiki further and added this line to my sources.list deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main universe ... still dont work |
21:32.49 | Atm0spher1c | this is debian not ubuntu |
21:33.20 | Atm0spher1c | deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free - that's all you need per debian steam wiki |
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21:33.26 | l0ll1p0p | travis_: did you updated after you add the line to your repos |
21:33.29 | Atm0spher1c | you're not following the wiki |
21:33.42 | travis_ | yea |
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21:34.18 | travis_ | Atm0spheric I installed the non-free netinst do i still need to add that? |
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21:34.51 | markybob | travis_: honestly you may have broken things too far already by adding ubuntu |
21:34.57 | markybob | !tell travis_ about dontbreakdebian |
21:35.15 | travis_ | what I didnt add ubuntu stuff |
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21:35.24 | markybob | travis_: we can't support you if you don't follow clear instructions and do things on your own (like adding ubuntu) |
21:35.40 | travis_ | wtf are you talking about ubuntu |
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21:35.51 | Atm0spher1c | travis_: you said - "deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal main universe ... still dont work" |
21:36.03 | travis_ | oh but thats what the wiki says |
21:36.13 | Atm0spher1c | travis_: no - https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
21:36.13 | markybob | travis_: no |
21:36.21 | markybob | travis_: that's not the wiki i linked you to |
21:36.37 | markybob | travis_: it's probably broken. reinstall and start over. then follow instructions |
21:36.42 | travis_ | markybob wants you to know: Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
21:36.47 | travis_ | i followed that wiki |
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21:37.09 | markybob | travis_: nowhere there will you find ubuntu. i don't know what's wrong with your reading ability |
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21:43.58 | awal1 | Atm0spher1c, I find pm-suspend... insecure because it needs root access and if any someone can press power button for resume and he gets X terminal with root privileges... |
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21:51.50 | Atm0spher1c | awal1: sudo |
21:52.12 | Atm0spher1c | didn't know systemctl suspend doesnt need root |
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22:05.28 | algun | grawity: It's not recent |
22:08.15 | transhuman | could not configure /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted qemu-system-x86_64 http://paste.debian.net/431351/ ...looks like a bug in libvirt, aqemu, or tun/tap, anyone able to confirm? Work around? |
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22:10.50 | TheSin | hey anyone here know apt-file? I just updated and none -N and -s are gone, so how can I set non-interactive and set a specific sources.list now? |
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22:21.23 | jml2 | TheSin, for jessie? |
22:21.34 | jml2 | TheSin, here i use apt-file sometimes, i still see these options available |
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22:22.20 | n6101 | hi |
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22:24.09 | TheSin | jml2, for testing, they are gone :( and I use it on a web site for file searches so I ened to be able to do both those things |
22:24.52 | markybob | TheSin: well for testing try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net per /topic for better help |
22:25.06 | TheSin | markybob, k thanks |
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22:49.05 | transhuman | does debian use cgroups? |
22:49.44 | transhuman | https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Host_Configuration_and_Guest_Installation_Guide/App_Generic_Ethernet.html |
22:49.57 | transhuman | this doesnt work but I am wondering if some variation of this would |
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23:06.48 | MaBunny | Hey guys |
23:07.08 | MaBunny | In 30mins it will be morning here so |
23:07.24 | MaBunny | Ill keep it simple as possible |
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23:07.59 | MaBunny | So ive done the steps TomTomTosch told me too |
23:08.42 | MaBunny | I hav redone the apt mirror,and for some 7-8 hours it went downloading |
23:09.32 | MaBunny | And after tht it showed me a window to select which software to include |
23:10.17 | MaBunny | I clicked yes on Debian window manager,gnome , ssh server n system utilities |
23:10.53 | MaBunny | It went on downloading for those 7-8 hrs around 1450 packages |
23:10.59 | MaBunny | Or something |
23:11.13 | MaBunny | And then it said "failed" |
23:11.19 | MaBunny | *kabaam |
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23:11.26 | MaBunny | Ok |
23:12.04 | MaBunny | So wht steps should i follow now,if you guys can tell me |
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23:12.32 | MaBunny | I hav an exam today and will leave for the exam centre |
23:12.58 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: check tty4 (by pressing ctrl+alt+f4) for details of the failure |
23:13.03 | MaBunny | Which is some 70 kms away for something like 2 hrs later |
23:13.07 | MaBunny | Ok |
23:13.25 | MaBunny | In the shell window??? |
23:13.46 | MaBunny | What cmd is tht??? check tty4 ??? |
23:14.11 | MaBunny | Wait will try |
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23:14.34 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: it's nto a command, it's an action that the user takes. going to tty4 with ctrl+alt+f4, looking for errors on the screen. |
23:15.04 | MaBunny | Ok |
23:15.22 | MaBunny | I pressed check tty4 |
23:15.43 | lux7676 | i think now it would be best for me to use 7.9 debian until i have time upgrading since 7.9 actually works except does not support avi or mp3 files |
23:15.49 | MaBunny | But it didnt show anything,though i pressed ctrl alt f1 |
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23:16.11 | lux7676 | any way i can downalod some packages for that ? |
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23:16.30 | lux7676 | but i would have to download it as a file and then transfer it from usb |
23:16.33 | MaBunny | Ok |
23:16.36 | lux7676 | i cant do it from the terminal |
23:16.49 | MaBunny | It didnt show anything jmcnaught |
23:17.02 | MaBunny | In the ctrl atl f4 |
23:17.10 | MaBunny | *window |
23:17.45 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: that's where the debian installer shows details. Are any of these languages easier for you than english? Chinese Czech French German Greek Italian Japanese Korean Portuguese Russian Spanish Swedish Vietnamese |
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23:18.03 | MaBunny | Haha |
23:18.14 | MaBunny | I wish bengali was there too |
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23:18.26 | MaBunny | But in any case |
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23:18.52 | MaBunny | My english is *excellent by indian standards ;) |
23:18.56 | MaBunny | My frnd |
23:19.07 | MaBunny | Ok |
23:19.18 | MaBunny | Leaving tht besides |
23:19.48 | MaBunny | I pressed ctrl alt f4 n it took me to a diff window thn |
23:19.56 | MaBunny | Ctrl alt f1 |
23:19.57 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: okay, i wasn't trying to judge your language skills or anything. those are the languages that the debian install manual is available in. I recommend you read it, again if you have already, very thoroughly, before trying the install again: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
23:20.42 | MaBunny | Which portion should i specifically read for my current problem??? |
23:20.53 | MaBunny | Any suggestion?? |
23:21.08 | MaBunny | I mean sec 7.5/4.3 |
23:21.16 | MaBunny | Its huge |
23:21.23 | MaBunny | Lol |
23:21.46 | MaBunny | And i am in my mobile now |
23:22.09 | MaBunny | So simuntaneously 2 screens are a darn |
23:22.18 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: I don't know what caused the failure. maybe you didn't have enough space on your root partition? The install manual isn't that long really, and it will take you less time to read than repeatedly reattempting the install. Pretend it's mandatory for school if that helps. |
23:22.39 | MaBunny | Haha |
23:22.48 | MaBunny | Well,ok but |
23:23.03 | MaBunny | I had 12 gb of my 16 gb as root |
23:23.06 | MaBunny | Ok |
23:23.11 | MaBunny | Ill check |
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23:23.44 | MaBunny | Spell my name if you guys want to catch my interest ;) |
23:23.52 | lux7676 | jmcaught will this support playing mp3 files ? with debian 7.9 https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libjlayer-java |
23:24.40 | transhuman | ok so getting the following strace http://paste.debian.net/431488/ note the two lines that say etc/gcrypt/hwf.deny", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/qemu/qemu.conf", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) ... any idea what is missing? |
23:25.06 | transhuman | looks like a missing config file..ok but whats the other one? |
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23:25.38 | NYTimes | hey how do I exit a server without closing programs |
23:25.40 | NYTimes | ? |
23:25.57 | jml2 | NYTimes, ?? |
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23:26.07 | jml2 | NYTimes, sounds like catch-22 |
23:26.08 | transhuman | put the screen saver on maybe? |
23:26.17 | jml2 | NYTimes, close your eyes? |
23:26.19 | jml2 | XD |
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23:26.47 | jmcnaught | MaBunny: try using the guided partitioning option with all-in-one partition next time |
23:26.49 | transhuman | run everything as daemons |
23:27.18 | jmcnaught | lux7676: i dunno.. i think lots of stuff plays mp3 in wheezy. i never had any problem with it. |
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23:27.40 | MaBunny | In my prev instl in deb 8.3 i had choosen manual option |
23:27.45 | TomTomTosch | NYTimes, if you mean you want the application running after you have closed the ssh connection you can use something like screen and detach the session. |
23:27.57 | MaBunny | It didnt wreak my time!! |
23:27.58 | markybob | !tell NYTimes about screen |
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23:28.05 | MaBunny | Smooth as butter |
23:28.07 | lux7676 | jmcnaught it says that it is not supported |
23:28.09 | NYTimes | when I ssh to a vps how do I exit leaving apps running ? |
23:28.11 | MaBunny | But ill check |
23:28.22 | lux7676 | maybe im just downaloding something thats not full |
23:28.23 | markybob | NYTimes: bot just told you |
23:28.25 | lux7676 | but it should work |
23:28.34 | lux7676 | because the system actually works |
23:28.40 | NYTimes | TomTomTosch: ok thanks markybob |
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23:28.45 | lux7676 | i cant play avi or mp3 |
23:29.01 | aricz | gnu screen <3 |
23:29.21 | lux7676 | i wanted to know if there is special package |
23:29.27 | lux7676 | because linux is ogg |
23:29.34 | lux7676 | instead of mp3 |
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23:29.55 | jmcnaught | lux7676: what says that what is not supported? rhythmbox played mp3s for me on wheezy. maybe you just need to install some more gstreamer packages? |
23:30.09 | NYTimes | markybob: TomTomTosch ok I see now is tmux the same ? |
23:30.21 | jml2 | transhuman, the documentation on centos mentions cgroups, but you should know something more about redhat in general -- and that is if you see something for "Centos" or "Redhat" -- you will see the same kernel support for all linux distros |
23:30.39 | TomTomTosch | NYTimes: yes. |
23:30.43 | jml2 | transhuman, ,/documentation was on redhat.. but it can apply in general to more than just centos too |
23:30.44 | jmcnaught | lux7676: vlc is also available for wheezy, it plays everything |
23:30.49 | lux7676 | jmcnaught will you be here for the next couple hours, i will make the iso again and install it |
23:31.13 | lux7676 | i replaced the usb with 7.9 to 8.4 |
23:31.14 | TomTomTosch | NYTimes: you can pick any terminal multiplexer. |
23:31.15 | \ni | u need codecs lux7676 |
23:31.23 | lux7676 | but we all know wat happened |
23:31.29 | jmcnaught | lux7676: if you're doing a fresh install, i recommend Debian 8 (Jessie). I might be around, i'm here a lot lately. There's also 1500+ others that might help you. |
23:31.32 | \ni | lux7676, http://gamblisfx.com/how-to-play-mp3-dvd-movie-on-debian-7-wheezy/ |
23:31.53 | transhuman | ok thanks jml2, do you have an answer as to what gcrypt package provides /etc/gcrypt/hwf.deny seems that is the root of my problem according to strace? |
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23:32.19 | NYTimes | TomTomTosch: ok but the session will still be open I mean still connected |
23:32.23 | NYTimes | right ? |
23:32.27 | transhuman | jml2 seems it is missing |
23:32.37 | markybob | NYTimes: you'll have to reattach. screen -r after reconnecting |
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23:32.48 | lux7676 | \ni thanks ! question for you |
23:32.53 | MaBunny | So guys |
23:33.04 | lux7676 | is there any way to download it instead using the terminal |
23:33.23 | MaBunny | Something caught my attention while i was checking the guide |
23:33.32 | lux7676 | i need a way to have it downloaded on one computer and then transfer the files from usb to another one where i can install it |
23:33.32 | jml2 | transhuman, doesn't mean that it needs it -- strace always shows a lot of "mising" no file found |
23:33.34 | \ni | I duno. I normally use the terminal to install stuff |
23:33.39 | MaBunny | Its in this link: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
23:33.41 | NYTimes | yeah I get it I use tmux but I do not understand how to exit properly from ssh |
23:33.54 | lux7676 | hmm i see |
23:33.55 | jml2 | transhuman, (especially for osbolete/outdated library files and optional configuration files) |
23:34.10 | lux7676 | hmm |
23:34.21 | MaBunny | It says tht i need a minimum 10gb of disk space,while mine on the usb is 12gb |
23:34.21 | markybob | NYTimes: in screen you do ctrl+a d to detach. then you can exit |
23:34.31 | markybob | NYTimes: man screen or google something about it. |
23:34.49 | MaBunny | So is it possible tht it ran out of disk space??? |
23:34.53 | MaBunny | Idk |
23:34.56 | transhuman | IC jml2 unfortunately strace doesnt provide me any further information on why the operation is not permitted . |
23:35.02 | lux7676 | anyway i can download codecs for debian as a file instead from the terminal |
23:35.14 | MaBunny | But ive tht 64gb pendrive,can try on tht one |
23:35.15 | jml2 | MaBunny, it's common for standard debian to install under 3.5 gigs |
23:35.24 | MaBunny | Ok |
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23:35.31 | jml2 | MaBunny, so you have more than enough disk space |
23:35.36 | MaBunny | I mean with gnome??? |
23:35.40 | jml2 | yep |
23:35.46 | MaBunny | Ok |
23:35.57 | MaBunny | Ok my dad is calling |
23:36.01 | jml2 | lol |
23:36.05 | MaBunny | Need to ready up |
23:36.12 | MaBunny | For the trip |
23:36.15 | MaBunny | Lol |
23:36.20 | MaBunny | Bye guys |
23:36.34 | MaBunny | And ill check after my exam |
23:36.47 | MaBunny | Thnx for your time :) |
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23:38.25 | transhuman | jml2 any options that you might suggest that might get strace to give me more output on what is causing the failed permit jml2...thanks in advance kind of stuck on this one |
23:38.25 | lux7676 | \ni is this the right thing https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/totem |
23:39.26 | jml2 | transhuman, what application are you trying to fix? |
23:39.33 | jml2 | transhuman, maybe i can provide a generic route |
23:39.37 | transhuman | tun/tap on aqemu |
23:39.53 | transhuman | trying to build a kvm/xen live cd |
23:40.06 | jml2 | transhuman, oh well then you're trying to compile things.. |
23:40.09 | transhuman | so need a gui manager for kvm |
23:40.16 | markybob | lux7676: for mp3 to work with totem in wheezy you need gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 as well. best bet is just use vlc as you had been told |
23:40.31 | transhuman | aqemu is giving me headackes with networking here is the error hold on |
23:40.33 | jml2 | transhuman, there's a distro for this already it hink it's called qvwm.. something |
23:40.35 | NYTimes | I mean right I ssh then I'm in bash shell lvl1 then zsh lvl2 I start tmux/screen but now that i'm lvl4 how do I exit ssh ? and dont tllme ctrl-c or exit or ctrl-d... |
23:40.56 | transhuman | http://paste.debian.net/431351/ |
23:41.05 | markybob | NYTimes: i told you. in screen, ctrl+a d then exit |
23:41.14 | markybob | NYTimes: when you ssh back in, screen -r |
23:41.14 | \ni | lux7676, the description says that it reads mp3s. Maybe it's what u need (I'm also a debian noob XD ) |
23:41.14 | lux7676 | markybob vlc player ? |
23:41.19 | markybob | lux7676: yes |
23:41.26 | jml2 | transhuman, i think it may have heen this one https://www.maketecheasier.com/qubes-os-a-linux-distro-for-security-and-virtualization/ |
23:41.29 | lux7676 | ok |
23:41.35 | jml2 | transhuman, as for building anything that's out of the quetsion for me sry |
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23:41.59 | ninjaa | helo |
23:42.08 | ninjaa | What is the purpose of seperating / and /home ? |
23:42.14 | transhuman | yeah thats based on redhat trying to do similar with debian |
23:42.31 | transhuman | hate redhat and its not for security as much as it is for development. |
23:42.33 | lux7676 | markybob anyway i can install it as a program ? |
23:42.34 | lux7676 | https://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html |
23:42.36 | transhuman | its a qemu problme |
23:42.43 | lux7676 | this only gives me option if i have the internet |
23:42.51 | transhuman | or more specifically /tun/tap problem |
23:42.59 | jml2 | transhuman, fwiw.. i think the old brctl is less favored than "openvswitch" -- you have better performance and flexibility as well as "isolation" from protecting different VM traffic |
23:43.27 | jml2 | transhuman, (check out adding "macvtaps" directly on "eth0" -- and then use macvtaps with VMS -- it's much efficicent as well as secure -- because you can use "mode private") |
23:43.48 | jml2 | transhuman, on the "brctl" classic bridge there's no traffic isolation.. |
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23:44.06 | markybob | lux7676: it's in debian. you can get it from another computer that has internet from http://packages.debian.org/vlc and transfer it over with a usb stick |
23:44.08 | transhuman | do any of the gui's out there use mac taps or am I going to be confined to writting a bunch of scripts? |
23:44.10 | jmcnaught | lux7676: "apt-get install vlc" generally not recommended to install stuff in Debian by downloading from websites.. this is a bad windows habit |
23:45.05 | lux7676 | oh wow |
23:45.20 | lux7676 | jmcnaught what is the proper way to download stuff in debian ? |
23:46.05 | markybob | lux7676: with internet you use apt-get/aptitude/apt without it you get it from packages.debian.org then dpkg -i foo.deb or use apt-zip if it's intense |
23:46.30 | markybob | !tell lux7676 about dontbreakdebian |
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23:47.57 | NYTimes | markybob: i just launch htop via ssh thru tmux then I closed the session the sshed back and htop wasn't running anymore |
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23:48.11 | NYTimes | I miss smthing here |
23:48.27 | jmcnaught | lux7676: lux7676: heh, to be fair now that I look at https://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html they're saying to get it from official repos or backports. what a nice upstream! |
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23:48.34 | TomTomTosch | NYTimes: did you detach the session before closing? |
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23:49.17 | NYTimes | TomTomTosch: u doubtfooled me lol lemme check again |
23:49.30 | lux7676 | jmcnaught so i understand tat when downloading something its always best from the offical debian site |
23:49.57 | \ni | if avalible, yes lux7676 |
23:49.58 | transhuman | jml2 looks like virtual manager supports macvtaps maybe thats the route to go ..thanks |
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23:51.02 | \ni | lux7676, you'll get auto-magically updates for everything installed that way |
23:51.25 | jmcnaught | lux7676: yes, and Debian has tools like apt-get, aptitude, and (if you must) synaptic for installing software from the official Debian repositories (which have 40,000+ packages in Debian 8) |
23:51.31 | lux7676 | jmcnaught ok this means |
23:51.44 | lux7676 | i need to wifi before anything |
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23:52.25 | NYTimes | TomTomTosch: yes its ok that way but technically the ssh connection hed never been cut |
23:52.40 | lux7676 | jmcnaught i have to make new iso with the debian 7.9 and go throught the installation and see the network again |
23:52.49 | lux7676 | ... this might take little bit lol |
23:52.57 | TomTomTosch | NYTimes: i don't understand what you want to tell me, sry. |
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23:53.36 | lux7676 | but im glad that i switched to linux and i will never go back |
23:53.44 | pingfloyd | lux7676: it's also good to check the digest and gpg signature |
23:54.00 | lux7676 | yeah i always do that |
23:54.18 | lux7676 | the md5 hash as well |
23:54.26 | lux7676 | to double check |
23:54.26 | pingfloyd | lux7676: the fingerprints are listed here to compare against if you don't go to keysigning parties https://www.debian.org/CD/verify |
23:54.37 | NYTimes | TomTomTosch: when you detach your screen/tmux session then the ssh connection is still up |
23:54.48 | markybob | NYTimes: yes. then you type exit |
23:54.49 | TomTomTosch | NYTimes: right.. |
23:54.53 | pingfloyd | lux7676: I recommend sha256 or better for the hash though |
23:55.06 | lux7676 | pingfloyd oh ok |
23:55.18 | pingfloyd | lux7676: I usually use sha512 myself |
23:55.38 | markybob | i did say that before... |
23:55.47 | pingfloyd | lux7676: question though, why 7 instead of 8? |
23:56.20 | NYTimes | is a vpn usefull for a vps ? |
23:56.42 | TomTomTosch | do apples go nice with oranges? |
23:56.58 | lux7676 | because i downloaded the wrong iso and then new one is 3.7gb |
23:57.04 | lux7676 | the 7.9 is only 650 mb |
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23:57.20 | lux7676 | im having problems understanding why is there such a big difference |
23:57.32 | pingfloyd | lux7676: sounds like the 3.7 is the dvd |
23:57.41 | pingfloyd | lux7676: netinstall should be smaller |
23:57.45 | TomTomTosch | NYTimes: both have their uses, both can be useful for you. your question has no answer. |
23:57.59 | lux7676 | yes but i dont have that much bandwitch to use |
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23:58.20 | lux7676 | i need to do it somewhere else |
23:58.45 | lux7676 | i hope debain 8.4 does not come with programs like skype |
23:58.53 | lux7676 | like ubuntu for example |
23:59.00 | pingfloyd | lux7676: debian-8.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso 2016-04-02 16:46 247M |
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23:59.30 | markybob | we went through this hours ago. he wants gnome offline installer. not netinst. |
23:59.36 | markybob | this keeps going and going |
23:59.37 | pingfloyd | lux7676: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |