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| 00:06.12 | cherry_lin | !downgrade |
| 00:06.12 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 00:06.48 | cherry_lin | !downgrade testing->stable |
| 00:07.35 | markybob | cherry_lin, no such thing. sorry. |
| 00:07.46 | cherry_lin | no problem |
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| 00:20.04 | jhutchins_wk | !partial downgrade |
| 00:20.05 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
| 00:20.38 | jhutchins_wk | cherry_lin: It's really better to just do a clean install if you didn't do a backup before "upgrading" to testing. |
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| 00:21.25 | jhutchins_wk | cherry_lin: This is why it's often good to have a dual-boot setup and keep one of them at stable for when testing breaks and you still need to use the computer. |
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| 00:24.20 | abrotman | jhutchins_wk: cherry_lin he didn't upgrade to testing .. he installed some packages |
| 00:24.49 | cherry_lin | already upgrading |
| 00:24.50 | cherry_lin | lol |
| 00:25.07 | cherry_lin | there's no way back |
| 00:25.12 | zykotick9 | s/upgrading/downgrading/ but YMMV ;) |
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| 00:36.42 | pflanze | Hi. My kernel says "PM: Device 00:0a failed to freeze: error 28" when trying to suspend or hibernate. |
| 00:36.53 | pflanze | How do I find out what device that is and what the error code means? |
| 00:37.04 | pflanze | lspci doesn't list any :0a |
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| 00:41.36 | abrotman | lsusb perhaps? |
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| 00:42.59 | pflanze | Nope. But it's in /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0a |
| 00:43.15 | pflanze | just no idea how to get information about it |
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| 00:48.35 | Somelauw | Hi, I'm trying to use pyvenv module from python on debian. Running 'python3 -m venv python35' tells me the module 'ensurepip' is missing. How to get this module? It's not in pip nor the debian repositories. |
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| 00:50.02 | awal1 | pflanze: https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2013/12/msg00346.html may give you pistes ... |
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| 00:52.53 | Serka | CANAL DE YOUTUBE EN EXPANSION CON TUTORIAL DE COMO GANAR DINERO GRATIS CON APLICACION DE GOOGLE PLAY PUEDES COBRAR EL DINERO CON STEAM ,GOOGLE PLAY,PAYPAL,PLAY STORE,ETC (NO ES PARA HACERSE RICO PERO 10$ EN DOS SEMANAS LOS GANAS) NO TE OLVIDES DE SUSCRIBIRTE AL CANAL UN SALUDO A TODOS/AS(CUALQUIER DUDA ESCRIMIRME A MI CANAL (Http://sh.st/nBwwh) |
| 00:52.56 | pflanze | awal1, wow, good catch. Thanks. |
| 00:53.09 | pflanze | Hm I forgot to Google after DDG. My fault. |
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| 00:53.19 | pflanze | Or, surely, Google's. |
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| 01:25.27 | benaiah | I have a server running ubuntu 14.04 (I made it a long time before I switched to Debian) and a laptop which runs debian unstable. I'd like to do some synchronization using unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/), but the packaged versions of unison differ between the two machines, and unison requires the same version installed on both machines. I have 2.48.3 on my laptop and 2.40.102 on my server. |
| 01:25.29 | benaiah | Is there a simple way to downgrade the version I have on my laptop while still using apt, or will I need to download the specific release from the website and build it manually? |
| 01:26.08 | abrotman | benaiah: snapshot.debian.org |
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| 01:29.03 | benaiah | would you recommend adding the snapshot source to the apt sources list, or downloading it from there and using dpkg to install? |
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| 01:30.19 | ksx4system | benaiah, I'd install manually |
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| 01:34.49 | abrotman | benaiah: you'd probably want to keep the source package in case something breaks |
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| 01:52.39 | Somelauw | Hi, I'm trying to use pyvenv module from python on debian. Running 'python3 -m venv python35' tells me the module 'ensurepip' is missing. How to get this module? It's not in pip nor the debian repositories. |
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| 01:57.51 | mutante | Somelauw: what happens with python -m ensurepip --upgrade |
| 01:58.34 | mutante | Somelauw: ensurepip should actually... install pip |
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| 01:59.17 | mutante | python -m ensurepip - This invocation will install pip if it is not already installed, but otherwise does nothing. To ensure the installed version of pip is at least as recent as the one bundled with ensurepip, pass the --upgrade option |
| 01:59.34 | paul_ | Hi again, still having issues trying to create a raid0 with 2x 4TB hdd's in debian 8, getting an error when I try to "sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt" , tells me to check dmesg, nothing of note there (in my opinion). |
| 02:00.03 | paul_ | ^ Using GPT as the partition table as MSDOS won't allow 4TB partitions apparently. |
| 02:00.12 | Somelauw | mutante: running python -m ensurepip (--upgrade) tells me that pip is disabled on Debian and Ubuntu. |
| 02:00.43 | paul_ | Any suggestions much appreciated. |
| 02:01.03 | Somelauw | mutante: when running it in the virtualenv, it says 'No module named ensurepip' |
| 02:01.34 | abrotman | paul_: as which user? did oyu create the filesystems? |
| 02:01.56 | Somelauw | mutante: I found this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1290847 |
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| 02:02.27 | paul_ | abrotman: here is a pastebin of what I did up to the error message: http://pastebin.com/NHEP2LZg |
| 02:03.15 | eck | i'm trying to debug a change i'm making to a complex debian package, and it's failing like 1hr+ into the package build... is there a way to get tracing information from dpkg-buildpackage so i know exactly what step it's failing at? |
| 02:03.19 | mutante | Somelauw: the bug actually sounds relevant but i dont have more to add :/ |
| 02:03.34 | abrotman | paul_: you didn't create a filesystem that I see |
| 02:04.57 | paul_ | abrotman: Sorry I meant to add, after that, I went into gparted and created an ext4 partition on the 7.4tb md0 "device", which worked, then retried "sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt" and got the same error message. |
| 02:05.17 | abrotman | paul_: Any data on those drives currently? |
| 02:06.09 | paul_ | No they are empty, when I have made this raid, I'm hoping to be able to move my /home partition to it (I know how dodgy raid0 is but it's faster and I do a lot of encoding etc, I have a separate drive for important files. |
| 02:06.37 | abrotman | paul_: What filesystem do youwant? |
| 02:07.51 | paul_ | EXT4 is fine, NTFS would be slightly more useful just because I'd be able to access files from Windows (which is used purely for Steam games), but I *think* I remember how to get windows to see EXT4 partitions so that's not a big deal. |
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| 02:08.24 | abrotman | paul_: you could go with exFat? |
| 02:08.39 | abrotman | piggy!!! |
| 02:09.06 | paul_ | abrotman: thought there was a file-size limit on exFat? alot of my files are MASSIVE. (Currently on an external HDD) |
| 02:09.19 | abrotman | paul_: at any rate, cat /prod/mdstat .. things seem good? Then you need to use standard filesystem creation tools on /dev/md0 |
| 02:09.28 | abrotman | paul_: yeah, there are .. but they're huge |
| 02:09.52 | nevyn | likes lvm on md but.. whatever |
| 02:10.17 | abrotman | he can go that route too |
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| 02:10.45 | nevyn | so if you're putting /home and a seperate media and isos then it can make sense |
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| 02:11.37 | markybob | paul_, have any files larger than 128 PiB? |
| 02:11.48 | c0de1 | Hi |
| 02:11.54 | paul_ | abrotman: markybob: No thank god :) |
| 02:12.00 | markybob | paul_, then you're good :P |
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| 02:12.11 | paul_ | markybob: thanks |
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| 02:14.07 | paul_ | abrotman: that command does not work I just get a "no such file or directory" |
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| 02:14.19 | abrotman | paul_: which command? |
| 02:14.45 | abrotman | I did'nt think it had moved |
| 02:14.56 | paul_ | the cat one, |
| 02:15.10 | abrotman | well, just try to make the filesystem I suppose |
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| 02:16.19 | paul_ | abrotman: according to gparted I have sda1 - 4tb ext4, sdb1 - 4tb ext4 and md0 7.28tb ext4, but it just fails to mount. |
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| 02:16.46 | abrotman | paul_: mkfs.ext2 /dev/md0 |
| 02:16.49 | abrotman | just to try it |
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| 02:18.00 | paul_ | abrotman: sorry I guess I misunderstood what you were referring to :) ...it's doing...something. Fingers crossed. |
| 02:18.16 | abrotman | paul_: are lights blinking? |
| 02:18.21 | abrotman | is it making eggs? |
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| 02:20.13 | ipatrol | wut? |
| 02:21.04 | paul_ | abrotman: no but they never do, my case wiring is a bit messed up, the only drive that makes the LED blink is my games SSD which is sdd1 :) |
| 02:21.08 | paul_ | abrotman: sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/md0 |
| 02:21.08 | paul_ | mke2fs 1.42.12 (29-Aug-2014) |
| 02:21.09 | paul_ | Found a gpt partition table in /dev/md0 |
| 02:21.09 | paul_ | Proceed anyway? (y,n) y |
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| 02:22.31 | donofrio | anyone here use bcm b43-fwcutter cause I need the fw for my wlan0 - http://apaste.info/kzI is what I'm getting right now ;( |
| 02:22.37 | abrotman | paul_: try it and see? |
| 02:22.39 | paul_ | abrotman: forgot to put the output in pastebin and got kicked haha, oops. http://pastebin.com/55827tz9 |
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| 02:24.34 | Somelauw | mutante: not completely sure, but the error seems to have disappeared after explicitely installing 'sudo apt-get install python3-venv' |
| 02:24.47 | paul_ | abrotman: I just get the same error message when trying to mount |
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| 02:25.26 | mutante | Somelauw: ah :) cool |
| 02:26.05 | ipatrol | abrotman: if your machine is getting hot enough to cook eggs, I'm pretty sure you're doing something *horribly* wrong |
| 02:26.19 | abrotman | no |
| 02:27.13 | ipatrol | abrotman: name one instance in which that would be normal operation? |
| 02:27.42 | paul_ | abrotman: I find that if I can't smell molten solder, all is well. I just had a thought though, if I used sh -c "sfdisk -d /dev/sda | sfdisk /dev/sdb" to mirror the UUID, I probably need to edit fstab and change the UUID before it will mount, no? |
| 02:27.58 | abrotman | Your computer is doing work? .. you can fry an egg at 55C .. that's not very warm |
| 02:28.16 | cafuego | Mine ran at 104C over the weekend. |
| 02:28.24 | abrotman | paul_: I presume you followed a known good guid e:) |
| 02:28.31 | cafuego | Then it did a safety-shutdown at 105C. |
| 02:28.32 | abrotman | cafuego: OMG, you probably fried two eggs! |
| 02:28.49 | ipatrol | cafuego: your computer should NOT run hot enough to boil water |
| 02:28.53 | cafuego | After applying new thermal paste and reseating the fan, it runs at 35C. |
| 02:29.03 | cafuego | ipatrol: The sky is blue. |
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| 02:29.14 | donofrio | b43 anyone use ut? |
| 02:29.17 | donofrio | it? |
| 02:29.28 | cafuego | donofrio: happily, not anymore. |
| 02:29.35 | paul_ | abrotman: mostly suggestions to be honest, I did find a guide on linux mint but I got error messages for most of it (the debian edition not the ubuntu edition) |
| 02:29.40 | foul_owl | Hi folks. Getting libavcodec-dev : Depends: libavutil-dev (= 6:11.4-1~deb8u1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 02:29.40 | abrotman | donofrio: it tells you what to di |
| 02:29.47 | abrotman | do |
| 02:29.55 | abrotman | foul_owl: apt-get update, try again |
| 02:30.07 | foul_owl | This is after an update |
| 02:30.13 | abrotman | foul_owl: then pastebin your sources.list |
| 02:30.23 | abrotman | foul_owl: or use aptitude, it may have a different solution |
| 02:31.05 | ipatrol | abrotman: no, that's not right. You need at least 70C to cook an egg |
| 02:31.34 | abrotman | ipatrol: internet disagrees, and still, a computational cluster may run at that heat. |
| 02:31.38 | abrotman | temperature |
| 02:31.49 | ipatrol | abrotman: 158F, which is 70C |
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| 02:32.06 | abrotman | ipatrol: again, internet disagrees. Have a nice day |
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| 02:32.45 | ipatrol | abrotman: the internet thinks Donald Trump is the messiah, does that mean they're even remotely correct? |
| 02:33.01 | abrotman | paul_: So where are we stuck? |
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| 02:34.08 | paul_ | abrotman, I followed your mkfs instructions, then I retried the mount command: sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt |
| 02:34.36 | paul_ | Got this same error: http://pastebin.com/55827tz9 |
| 02:34.48 | paul_ | damnit don't bother clicking that |
| 02:35.02 | foul_owl | Alrighty. aptitude wants to remove half the packages from my system |
| 02:35.16 | abrotman | foul_owl: that's why I asked you to pastebin your sources |
| 02:35.20 | markybob | foul_owl, that's why you were asked for your sources.list. |
| 02:36.12 | donofrio | abrotman: how does it tell you what do do when I goto that page is got too many thingg....how do I just apt-get the fw files? |
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| 02:36.37 | abrotman | donofrio: it tells you to visit a page? |
| 02:36.38 | paul_ | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/JikQx3Yn this is the error output |
| 02:36.55 | abrotman | paul_: nice spam you got there ... |
| 02:37.09 | markybob | paul_, this is one of the reasons we have paste.debian.net |
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| 02:38.01 | paul_ | abrotman: markybob: I don't see any spam on my screen, just a pastebin link... I'm using HexChat, wasn't aware of paste.debian.net ... So apologies if you're seeing something different to me lol :/ |
| 02:38.30 | markybob | paul_, that's because you posted it. it's showing as spam to the rest of us |
| 02:38.38 | donofrio | abrotman: true but it doesn't say do this apt-get and all is better? |
| 02:38.53 | abrotman | donofrio: that happens sometimes? |
| 02:39.05 | abrotman | donofrio: Broadcom is a special pile of crap |
| 02:39.09 | paul_ | abrotman: markybob: So basically use paste.debian.net instead of pastebin and we're all good? |
| 02:39.15 | markybob | paul_, yep |
| 02:39.44 | ipatrol | anyway, I always configure my fan settings so that none of my components ever get above 50C |
| 02:40.02 | markybob | drop it already |
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| 02:40.24 | abrotman | paul_: file -s /dev/md0 |
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| 02:41.21 | paul_ | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/280f7aab/ |
| 02:41.37 | OneM_Industries | So, I am setting up postfix. I am stuck on this line of the configuration process: postconf -e "myhostname=server1.example.com" |
| 02:41.49 | OneM_Industries | So, should it look like this: postconf -e "myhostname=server1.robotmak.in", or this: postconf -e "ErwinTest=server1.robotmak.in" |
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| 02:42.17 | donofrio | abrotman: trying the firmware-linux-nonfree now checking to see if that fixed it.... |
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| 02:42.41 | abrotman | donofrio: what is the actual device? lspci -nn |
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| 02:43.02 | markybob | donofrio, that's file isn't in firmware-linux-nonfree, btw |
| 02:43.27 | abrotman | OneM_Industries: the former I'd suspect |
| 02:43.31 | donofrio | markybob: where's it at? |
| 02:43.44 | abrotman | donofrio: what is the actual device? lspci -nn |
| 02:43.54 | markybob | donofrio, it's not in debian. or abrotman would've told you what to apt-get to get it. but yeah lspci -nn |
| 02:43.59 | donofrio | abrotman: what apt-get provides lspci? |
| 02:44.10 | abrotman | pciutils I'd suspect |
| 02:44.16 | donofrio | ok doing that now |
| 02:44.17 | abrotman | judd: file bin/lspci |
| 02:44.23 | judd | Search for bin/lspci in jessie/amd64: pciutils: usr/bin/lspci |
| 02:45.27 | donofrio | it looks like this root@osmc:~# lspci -nn |
| 02:45.27 | donofrio | 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub [8086:27a0] (rev 03) |
| 02:45.27 | donofrio | 00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express PCI Express Root Port [8086:27a1] (rev 03) |
| 02:45.27 | donofrio | 00:07.0 Performance counters [1101]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:27a3] (rev 03) |
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| 02:45.38 | abrotman | brilliant |
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| 02:46.07 | donofrio | it looks like this http://apaste.info/RVU |
| 02:46.24 | donofrio | dang middle paste button got me kicked... #mybad |
| 02:46.26 | paul_ | abrotman, you seem pretty knowledgeable on this subject, I'm happy to undo everything and start from scratch if that makes it easier, I can reconfigure mdadm so that it doesn't have any md0 if that is easier than you trying to second guess what my system is doing. |
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| 02:47.02 | abrotman | paul_: there are tons of quickstart guides for doing raid0 with swraid .. pick one, follow it through. You can probably google "Debian Jessie RAID0 mdadm" and get something you can use |
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| 02:47.36 | abrotman | Should take you just about as long as it takes me to clean up from making dinner :) |
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| 02:47.53 | paul_ | abrotman: I'm a chef by trade so I wouldn't count on that lol. |
| 02:48.10 | abrotman | dpkg: tell donofrio about bcm4328 |
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| 02:48.53 | donofrio | abrotman: ok so what do I apt-get to get this working? |
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| 02:49.11 | abrotman | paul_: pfft, If I can sear duck breast, you can make swraid work :) |
| 02:49.16 | abrotman | donofrio: see what the bot told you |
| 02:49.28 | karstensrage | could someone help me understand how this works or what i should read to understand this http://pastebin.com/rAPzJmLz |
| 02:49.34 | donofrio | didn't say anything excpet it's misidentifed nothing about apt-get install this |
| 02:50.00 | abrotman | dpkg: tell donofrio about wl |
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| 02:50.27 | paul_ | abrotman: If duck was made from 1's and 0's I really would be screwed let's just leave it at that :D ... I will try the search term you suggested and see if I have any better luck, I must admit I was a lot more vague in my search wording. |
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| 02:51.17 | donofrio | abrotman: ok your bot is working but I read in that most recent bot update it says "BCM4312" is supported so how do I "just get this working"?? |
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| 02:52.49 | donofrio | I mean do I really have to do this - http://apaste.info/qEX ?? |
| 02:53.21 | donofrio | I was figuring this is the 21st century....apt-get something show have been able to pull down the .fw files..? |
| 02:53.29 | ipatrol | donofrio: use paste.debian.org please |
| 02:53.42 | ipatrol | future reference :-) |
| 02:53.52 | donofrio | that doesn't work after awhile but yah I can do that.... |
| 02:54.05 | paul_ | donofrio: pay more attention to abrotman than me but I recall having a similar issue in debian getting wireless to work on one of my netbooks, I used ndiswrapper and installed the windows version of the bcm driver and that worked fine |
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| 02:54.32 | donofrio | paul_: yah do not even want to think about ndising anything ever again ;) |
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| 02:55.13 | paul_ | donofrio: was pretty simple as I recall but I guess we all have our pet hates :) |
| 02:55.37 | donofrio | do I really have to do these steps? http://paste.debian.net/366925/ you'd think you should be able to apt-get install nonfreefwfile? |
| 02:55.56 | asterismo | hi |
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| 02:56.10 | asterismo | is it possible to update to lastest version of openSSL in debian jessie? |
| 02:56.15 | asterismo | maybe install the sid package? |
| 02:56.24 | asterismo | or will i brake the system? |
| 02:56.32 | Thundersun | Hi is there anyone on listening? |
| 02:56.42 | abrotman | donofrio: ywhere did you get those instructions? |
| 02:56.56 | abrotman | paul_: any luck? |
| 02:57.07 | abrotman | asterismo: why would you want that? |
| 02:57.09 | nevyn | donofrio: what card? |
| 02:57.38 | asterismo | abrotman: to be able to select specific elliptic curves on apache directives |
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| 02:57.52 | asterismo | currently that directive is unsupported appearently |
| 02:58.04 | uxfi | test |
| 02:58.13 | asterismo | i see it depends in libc6 |
| 02:58.17 | asterismo | https://packages.debian.org/sid/openssl |
| 02:58.19 | abrotman | asterismo: you don't need it for that AFAIK |
| 02:58.22 | abrotman | judd: versions openssl |
| 02:58.23 | Thundersun | how to debootstrap debian wheezy for native zfs integration for open media vault? |
| 02:58.24 | judd | Package: openssl on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security-lts: 0.9.8o-4squeeze22; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u17; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u19; wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u19; jessie: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1.0.1k-3+deb8u2; sid: 1.0.2e-1; stretch: 1.0.2e-1 |
| 02:58.25 | uxfi | darn internet |
| 02:58.28 | paul_ | abrotman: No because I've been at this so long that my vodka + cranberry has caught up with me so I'm going to wait till tomorrow before I do anything else requiring root privileges haha :) |
| 02:58.31 | donofrio | nevyn: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4328] (rev 03) |
| 02:58.38 | abrotman | paul_: oh, good plan |
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| 02:59.29 | ipatrol | paul_: hah |
| 02:59.33 | paul_ | abrotman: I learn from experience. Last time I tried to do this when less-than-sober I ended up rsyncing / into /mtn on an endless loop until I had 0 bytes available. Wasn't fun. |
| 02:59.56 | paul_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.00 | markybob | i'm drooling over openssl 1.1.0. can't wait |
| 03:00.03 | nevyn | !tell donofrio about bcm4321 |
| 03:00.11 | Thundersun | i don't understand partiton creating for zfs from the live iso and creating simbolic links for zfs and how to check uuid of the partitions... |
| 03:00.17 | ipatrol | hands markybob a napkin |
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| 03:01.00 | asterismo | abrotman: hows that? you mean no need for sid package? |
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| 03:01.42 | paul_ | Thundersun: sudo blkid will give you the UUIDs |
| 03:02.35 | abrotman | asterismo: Didn't we talk about this a few weeks ago? |
| 03:02.37 | Thundersun | sudo blkid i seen that before |
| 03:02.51 | asterismo | abrotman: mmm, here? |
| 03:03.04 | asterismo | i asked this in httpd 2 days ago |
| 03:03.14 | Thundersun | and do i create witn cfdisk partitons for zfs? |
| 03:03.16 | asterismo | else it wasn't me |
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| 03:05.09 | Thundersun | and do i create with cfdisk partitons for zfs? and assgin simbolick links to those from the live iso? |
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| 03:06.04 | paul_ | Thundersun: cfdisk or mkfs (mkfs --help ... if you don't know the commands) |
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| 03:07.10 | Thundersun | i seen this on github but i don't understand it ... https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Debian-GNU-Linux-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem |
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| 03:07.43 | Mixon | hello |
| 03:08.13 | paul_ | Thundersun: how much of this have you done already? |
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| 03:10.15 | donofrio | k i got the firmware files and I thought the .o file is in the correct place but I'm still getting http://paste.debian.net/366926/ |
| 03:10.41 | Thundersun | i know to create from comandline normal partition and i know how to install arch linux for example and it a bit hard but i can do that and arch it only commandline |
| 03:10.49 | donofrio | tried to use this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=167222 the two commands wget the firmware and the tar then the b43-cutter as root |
| 03:10.54 | donofrio | still no joy... |
| 03:11.37 | donofrio | I'm so close to getting this working just need help for last steps.... |
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| 03:15.33 | paul_ | Thundersun: The link you posted seems fine, not sure I understand where you're stuck with it, just pick whatever you're more comfortable with as far as the partition making goes, and pay close attention to what it tells you to do with regards to fstab or it wont mount. |
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| 03:16.40 | donofrio | I'm still stuck |
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| 03:18.05 | ksx4system | was connman-vpn even meant to work? trying to run it throws "Name already in use" error (probably dbus-related stuff) |
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| 03:18.30 | svetlana | if i need to develop for 10-20 packages and i would like to compile them from source, is there any tools which can assist me, or do i just create directories for them by hand? i don't have to install them as packages right? |
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| 03:19.48 | Thundersun | <paul_> i've tryed with cfdisk it's confortable but then a create /boot /var and swap is it only that and then assign simbolic links for zfs? Or is it something more so i can format them? |
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| 03:24.33 | vvande_ | Any idea why, of two web servers on the lan, one can be accesed locally and the other can't? Both are visible on the internet. |
| 03:25.06 | jim | svetlana, do you mean compile debian packages from their source? yes, there are tools for that |
| 03:25.32 | jim | svetlana, do you mean something else? which? |
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| 03:26.15 | donofrio | anyone have a simple step by step to get bcm4321 working? |
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| 03:26.30 | svetlana | jim: i think i found a guide which helps (i should just try to package a few first) |
| 03:26.42 | markybob | svetlana, apt-get build-dep packagename && apt-get -b source packagename then dpkg -i the .deb files it makes |
| 03:28.18 | jim | svetlana, markybob has outlined a way to build things which are already debian packages... do you want to introduce software that is probaboy not packaged for debian? |
| 03:28.21 | paul_ | Thundersun: Is this for debian 8? |
| 03:28.25 | donofrio | where did I go wrong? http://paste.debian.net/366928/ |
| 03:28.39 | svetlana | jim: no, his is ok |
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| 03:28.47 | svetlana | markybob: thanks :) |
| 03:29.22 | jim | it's pretty likely that you'll find most things packaged for debian |
| 03:29.58 | donofrio | anyone here using bcm4321? |
| 03:30.29 | jim | while it's pretty involved, you can also learn to package either stuff you write or stuff you get |
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| 03:31.18 | jim | with an eye for detail, you can handle the learning curve (if you haven't already) |
| 03:31.19 | zykotick9 | markybob: re:sveltlana build directions, aren't you missing a step? make |
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| 03:32.14 | markybob | zykotick9, not if he meant debian packages. he never really answered that bit |
| 03:32.56 | jim | zykotick9, a file that gets added to sources for debian packaging, called debian/rules, can be many things, and, it's often an executable makefile |
| 03:32.59 | zykotick9 | markybob: oh sorry, i'll have to look into what the "apt-get -b source.." does... my bad. |
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| 03:33.29 | zykotick9 | jim: thanks. |
| 03:34.02 | zykotick9 | only uses "apt-get source.." to configure dwm, not really for packaging |
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| 03:34.59 | markybob | i use it for backporting pretty often. things backports don't carry |
| 03:35.18 | jim | zykotick9, (how do you make an executable makefile? you put #!/usr/bin/make at the top, and chmod +x it) |
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| 03:35.47 | zykotick9 | jim: so kinda like all scripts ;) |
| 03:36.05 | jim | yeah, exactly |
| 03:37.04 | jim | zykotick9, when I first found that out, I was a little surprised make could be used that way |
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| 03:40.33 | donofrio | help how'd I break dpkg?http://paste.debian.net/366933/ |
| 03:40.46 | Thundersun | No is on debian 7.9 last wheezy |
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| 03:42.16 | markybob | donofrio, how'd you get wireless-firmware-osmc? that's not in debian |
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| 03:42.38 | donofrio | markybob: it's close.... |
| 03:42.46 | markybob | donofrio, no, it's obviously not |
| 03:43.01 | donofrio | markybob: ok well it's got apt-get and moar |
| 03:43.10 | markybob | donofrio, debian is supported here. not whatever you refuse to say you're running |
| 03:43.19 | Thundersun | because i want to do it from scrath with native zfs file system on debian to install open media vault stoneburner to be more stable... |
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| 03:43.28 | markybob | !based on |
| 03:43.28 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 03:44.03 | donofrio | markybob: great ok you've whipped me for being bad - now could you help me try to get this working or just go away logic? |
| 03:44.33 | Thundersun | and if i download omv.iso zfs comes has a plugin has extra and i want it native... |
| 03:44.40 | markybob | donofrio, no. we don't know what wireless-firmware-osmc has since it's not in debian. that's why it's not supported. how can we help you if we don't know what it is? |
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| 03:45.14 | donofrio | markybob: I can run whatever command you like because it has less letters down't make it not a player in this game we call linux.... |
| 03:45.22 | abrotman | donofrio: pastebin your sources.list |
| 03:46.17 | donofrio | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/366935/ |
| 03:46.29 | paul_ | Thundersun: Long time since I tried doing anything with zfs but a friend who uses zfs is telling me to recommend installing lsb-release and zfsonlinux and then using traditional methods to make the partitions and link them via fstab ... He sent me the terminal commands if you want me to paste them into paste.debian.net ... he says this gave him native zfs support in gparted so he could just make the partitions and then do the sym links |
| 03:46.29 | paul_ | in fstab. |
| 03:46.31 | markybob | heh |
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| 03:46.47 | markybob | you're such a liar |
| 03:47.00 | abrotman | donofrio: the debian wiki covers many of the broadcom wifi cards, and the people in #wireless can sometimes help |
| 03:47.22 | donofrio | I'm in the #bcm-users channel and no-one is alive |
| 03:47.29 | abrotman | donofrio: the problem is finding which set of instrucdtions because Broadcom is a clusterfuck of incompatible chipsets with different drivers |
| 03:47.58 | donofrio | I'd like to just have someone keep helping me here considering this is somewhat Debian and you have like 1500 people here |
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| 03:48.14 | abrotman | donofrio: the bot told you which driver to install |
| 03:48.30 | donofrio | abrotman: amen but where is divining rod? |
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| 03:48.42 | abrotman | donofrio: it tells you to use the fwcutter, and that should be it |
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| 03:48.52 | Thundersun | <Paul_> if you can do that i would appriacteded that... |
| 03:48.53 | donofrio | it said something about sta and that is the result of my attempt form th emost recent pastebin |
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| 03:49.08 | abrotman | you can build as many drivers as you want, still need firmware |
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| 03:49.56 | donofrio | abrotman: agreed I feel so close to getting this working I got b43-fwcutter and the firmware just it's not linking or something |
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| 03:50.12 | abrotman | donofrio: tried rebooting? |
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| 03:51.05 | paul_ | Thundersun: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/109f16a7/ |
| 03:51.07 | donofrio | oh yah...I'll do it again and see |
| 03:51.28 | abrotman | waves .. |
| 03:52.02 | jim | sound waves |
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| 03:53.06 | paul_ | When fingers bleed, time to put down the acoustic. |
| 03:53.35 | jim | or lower the action :) |
| 03:53.45 | paul_ | jim: can't with this song lol, it's harsh. |
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| 03:54.14 | markybob | the US marines tell me pain is weakness leaving the body |
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| 03:54.24 | jim | is trying to learn the mel to inner urge by joe henderson |
| 03:55.27 | donofrio | same error after reboot..... |
| 03:55.28 | Thundersun | <Paul_> Thank you... And one more thing... Do you know how to ssh to the live iso ? |
| 03:55.57 | paul_ | jim: I'm trying to learn Jose Gonzalez - Crosses |
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| 03:56.00 | jim | said iso would have to be running sshd |
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| 03:56.23 | markybob | Thundersun, ssh isn't available during livecd |
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| 03:56.49 | Thundersun | because i'm on virtualbox for testing purpose and the resolution its small i'm and windows now and cant solve it? |
| 03:56.58 | markybob | Thundersun, you can install it |
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| 03:58.02 | Thundersun | that's i i couldn't but on arch live install it's possible to ssh on to it.... |
| 03:58.04 | paul_ | Thundersun: You can change virtual box settings outside of the linux distro you are running within it, you can add more graphics memory and change the max resolution etc. Btw, no idea if the commands I gave will work inside a VM lol. |
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| 03:58.59 | allizom | donofrio: installing firmware-b43-installer and rebooting did all that was needed last time I checked |
| 03:59.08 | markybob | Thundersun, i'm sorry we aren't the same |
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| 03:59.26 | themill | donofrio: by that, do you mean you're still getting file overwrite errors from dpkg? |
| 03:59.44 | paul_ | I could not get my head around the package management of archlinux, so used to aptitude. |
| 03:59.45 | donofrio | allizom: yah that seems to be doing something diffrent |
| 03:59.50 | donofrio | rebooting |
| 04:00.43 | Thundersun | arch it's not easy but i can work may way around... |
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| 04:01.48 | donofrio | allizom: that was the ticket now getting - b43-phy0: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, ID 0x2055, Revision 4, Version 0 |
| 04:02.17 | paul_ | Thundersun: I could work around things if I was permanently googling things to get the correct commands but when you know the apt commands as second nature it feels redundant ...and not fun. I would probably have a nervous breakdown if aptitude disappeared :) |
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| 04:05.19 | Thundersun | <Paul_> Thank you for your help... I'm going to go out of the room... I've got sleep a little bit... Because at 8:30 AM of Portugal e have to work... By the way <Paul_> Thundersun is just a nickname my Real Name is Paulo i'm Portuguese... |
| 04:06.01 | paul_ | boa noite :) lived in portugal for a year, beautiful country |
| 04:07.26 | Thundersun | Long live to the Algarve is here i'm from... |
| 04:07.46 | paul_ | I was north, Peres De Cora |
| 04:07.55 | donofrio | allizom: awesomeness it's all working now....thank you all for tolerating me..... ;) |
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| 04:08.04 | markybob | so much political problems with this discussion :p |
| 04:08.06 | paul_ | grats donofrio |
| 04:08.39 | markybob | move it to #debian-offtopic if you want |
| 04:08.45 | Thundersun | Ok THANK YOU <Paul_> I'm going out see you around... |
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| 04:09.32 | paul_ | abrigado tchau! |
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| 04:31.45 | ipatrol | also, I figured out the VM/promiscuous mode thing |
| 04:31.55 | ipatrol | VirtualBox supports it in "bridged mode" |
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| 04:42.28 | Slumlord_ | hello |
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| 05:00.24 | hiya | how do I check if a particular user exist on Debian ServeR? |
| 05:03.21 | zykotick9 | hiya: "grep foo /etc/passwd" would be one way. |
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| 05:03.30 | quantic | getent passwd |
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| 05:03.52 | quantic | Can pipe that into grep to find a specific user. |
| 05:04.57 | hiya | zykotick9, ok |
| 05:04.59 | hiya | I would try |
| 05:05.25 | hiya | zykotick9, it did not give me any output |
| 05:05.49 | zykotick9 | hiya: did you replace foo with the name you are looking for? |
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| 05:08.06 | zykotick9 | hiya: on my system, if i use "grep zykotick9 /etc/passwd" i get results returned, but if i "grep hiya /etc/passwd" i get nothing... |
| 05:10.43 | themill | 'getent passwd username' would be better |
| 05:10.57 | quantic | ^ |
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| 05:14.51 | hiya | zykotick9, of course I did :) it means i have deleted that specific user |
| 05:15.30 | zykotick9 | hiya: sorry, just checkin'. be sure you consider themill's suggestion! |
| 05:15.36 | uxfi | night all |
| 05:15.38 | uxfi | take care all |
| 05:16.11 | hiya | themill, but i have to enter password for it? What if one do not remember the password only? :) |
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| 05:18.29 | quantic | what??? |
| 05:18.49 | ksx4system | if "ip route add default dev ppp0" would throw everything through VPN - how do I revert to previously used interface? |
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| 05:19.14 | beepie | ksx4system, maybe use the metric option |
| 05:19.27 | foul_owl | Why can I boot from the netinstall iso but not the live cd? |
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| 05:19.37 | beepie | foul_owl, netinst iso is bootable |
| 05:19.50 | beepie | foul_owl, don't use unetbootin |
| 05:19.54 | ksx4system | beepie, where? and what would it change? |
| 05:19.57 | foul_owl | Not using unetbootin |
| 05:19.58 | zykotick9 | foul_owl: uefi is my guess... |
| 05:20.08 | beepie | ksx4system, you should be able to figure this |
| 05:20.11 | foul_owl | Why would uefi cause one to work and the other not? |
| 05:20.35 | foul_owl | Aren't the live iso and netinstall iso generated the same way? |
| 05:20.35 | beepie | ksx4system, how did you make the bootable iso? |
| 05:20.35 | zykotick9 | foul_owl: the livecd doesn't support it... |
| 05:20.47 | beepie | i mean foul_owl , how did you make the bootable iso |
| 05:20.51 | foul_owl | The live cd doesn't support uefi? |
| 05:21.02 | zykotick9 | foul_owl: i don't _think_ so... |
| 05:21.09 | foul_owl | I did sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdh |
| 05:21.13 | beepie | uefi's should still be support bios-boot cd/drive modes |
| 05:21.35 | ksx4system | beepie, metric instead of default? |
| 05:21.48 | beepie | foul_owl, if you do a "boot menu" with your bios/uefi shortkey do you get the "usb" disk listed? |
| 05:22.04 | beepie | ksx4system, you'll have to read the manpage |
| 05:22.20 | foul_owl | Oh man |
| 05:22.28 | foul_owl | disabled uefi in the bios and things work fine now |
| 05:22.41 | foul_owl | hooooly crap what a waste of time lol |
| 05:23.04 | beepie | foul_owl, could be a uefi/bios bug, check your motherboard maker if there's an update |
| 05:23.07 | foul_owl | Thanks everyone :) |
| 05:23.18 | foul_owl | Will do |
| 05:24.25 | ksx4system | beepie, 99 per 100 times there are no examples (or there are useless ones) in manpages :) and I'm pretty sure that solution would use the same words as you've used |
| 05:24.45 | ksx4system | I mean, the same word count* |
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| 05:26.33 | Thraul | any spamassassin and/or mailscanner users? I am trying to isntall the plugin - https://github.com/JonathanThorpe/spamassassin-vba-macro and need some help as I am not sure where I should be installing it. |
| 05:26.57 | beepie | ksx4system, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+ip+route+metric |
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| 06:18.39 | jannnd | I facing the problem when the using network manager of Debian Jessie LXDE |
| 06:18.40 | jannnd | I can connected to the internet via Wireless, Then connection lost after few minutes. |
| 06:18.40 | jannnd | Then command sudo ip link set eth0 down resolve issue temporiarity |
| 06:18.40 | jannnd | My laptop has Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 |
| 06:18.40 | jannnd | I downloaded and installed iwlwifi driver from their official site |
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| 07:21.43 | antranigv | how to debug suspend/resume? :)) Dell Inspiron Mini 1018 |
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| 08:04.51 | foul_owl | How do I get my Intel 3165 wifi card to work in Debian? |
| 08:05.04 | foul_owl | Specifically debian 8 |
| 08:07.26 | towo^work | instell the firmware and be happy |
| 08:07.31 | towo^work | *install |
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| 08:09.49 | foul_owl | What's the firmware package? |
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| 08:10.00 | towo^work | firmware-iwlwifi |
| 08:10.05 | foul_owl | Thank you!! |
| 08:10.11 | foul_owl | apt-cache search was coming up empty |
| 08:10.19 | jelly | dpkg, tell foul_owl about non-free sources |
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| 08:20.05 | foul_owl | Hmm, that didn't do the trick |
| 08:20.16 | foul_owl | I found a link saying I need to upgrade my kernel to 4.2 |
| 08:20.24 | foul_owl | I hope there is a backport repo for that kernel... |
| 08:20.44 | jelly | dpkg, tell foul_owl about bdo kernel |
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| 08:21.51 | [Brain] | will there ever be any plans from the debian team to have a rolling release stable? |
| 08:21.51 | jelly | foul_owl: and also /msg dpkg jessie backports |
| 08:21.59 | [Brain] | in the same way sid is a rolling release, but unstable? |
| 08:22.15 | jelly | that's not what "release" means! |
| 08:22.15 | [Brain] | i find dist-upgrades to be massively disruptive, to do away with them would be nice for my own personal use cases |
| 08:22.57 | [Brain] | well, gentoo etc used to work that way, rather than having set releases, they just continually rolled out stable packages. unfortunately, gentoo had many other annoying flaws. |
| 08:23.14 | [Brain] | its probably too much of an organisational change for them to ever do though |
| 08:23.22 | [Brain] | but iirc don't ubuntu etc pull from sid? |
| 08:23.35 | [Brain] | then stabilise the packages into their own releases? |
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| 08:24.21 | jelly | and keeping a distro usable with incremental updates is an insane amount of work |
| 08:24.30 | [Brain] | indeed |
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