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| 00:00.08 | abrotman | zhxk: call your provicer |
| 00:00.10 | abrotman | provider |
| 00:00.50 | zhxk | abrotman, should i open a ticket? |
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| 00:07.32 | abrotman | zhxk: I have no idea, I'm not your provider |
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| 00:09.14 | zhxk | abrotman, i dont know why the live cd cant help |
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| 00:15.40 | abrotman | zhxk: go for it |
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| 00:17.35 | zhxk | abrotman thank you, i have to wait for the reply |
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| 00:22.03 | junka | can someone suggest me a working solution regarding syncing an iPhone under Debian? |
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| 00:25.57 | zhxk | abrotman, the console works, now what runlevel to turn on networking for kvm, how about 235? |
| 00:26.13 | abrotman | undo what you did before |
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| 00:26.31 | zhxk | abrotman, i forgot |
| 00:26.43 | zhxk | how about 235s? |
| 00:26.49 | abrotman | Well, you were able to figure it out before, figure it out again. |
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| 00:28.54 | zhxk | abrotman, how to see current runlevel? |
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| 00:30.46 | nodus | zhxk: you are annoying, figure it out yourself. |
| 00:33.52 | zhxk | abrotman, thank you very much, nodus, goodbye |
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| 00:37.54 | Vasistha | I am shopping for a webcam, is there anything to be aware of? My impression has been that most if not all webcams are well supported by stock debian kernals, but perhaps I am mistaken? |
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| 00:43.32 | blarghlarghl | Hi all. I have a 4x2TB set of disks and wanted to RAID them. The actual mechanics of RAID+LVM is fine - but which do I choose? Everyone says RAID6 or bust, but I think that's referring to 12+ disk arrays, not "small" arrays like 4 drives. Is RAID5 still ok, or should I be going for RAID6? RAID6 on a 4 drive array does cost you half your storage... |
| 00:43.37 | blarghlarghl | Just wondering if anyone has any opinion on RAID5 vs RAID6 on these sorts of small arrays... |
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| 00:44.00 | Vasistha | !raid5 |
| 00:44.00 | dpkg | -- I heard raid5 is see raid or http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/markeditorial.html?prodkey=quick_explanation_of_raid -- also see http://www.acnc.com/04_01_05.html and click the various levels (0 ... 50, 0+1) on the page's RAID LEVEL: bar |
| 00:45.51 | blarghlarghl | yeah, I get how RAID levels work. |
| 00:46.24 | blarghlarghl | I'm wondering at what point a RAID6 array becomes "mandatory" to prevent data loss vs. a RAID5 array. |
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| 01:16.56 | jcrowgey | hey debian, what do i do if I push an sdcard into an sdcard reader and nothing happens in dmesg. Does this mean I'm missing a kernel module? |
| 01:17.07 | jcrowgey | seems like this used to work.... |
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| 01:56.50 | head8debian | So, just as an idea, what if i had a computer that i just used for web browsing using google chromes official repos to keep it up to date, and i kept using debian even after LTS runs out, how big of a security hole would i be? Would it be much worse than XP is now? |
| 01:57.09 | head8debian | Im just throwing out a idea which i am curious about. |
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| 01:58.08 | mutante | who knows if tomorrow a formerly unknown sshd exploit appears :) |
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| 02:01.00 | head8debian | Yes, but if ssh is not used/installed. ;) |
| 02:01.14 | head8debian | Im talking quite minimum. Maybe LibreOffice. |
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| 02:03.19 | mutante | head8debian: big, but not as big as XP. maybe. |
| 02:04.03 | mutante | i guess you need a threat model |
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| 05:23.29 | alphazulu | hi, is it a big deal to migrate apache from wheezy to jessie? |
| 05:25.17 | Equa | alphazulu: you may need to modify some of the conf files. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat |
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| 05:26.53 | alphazulu | thank you |
| 05:27.06 | Chocolate_Chip | Is apt-get -f install -y valid? |
| 05:27.16 | Chocolate_Chip | Writing a shell script, thinking of adding that |
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| 05:36.44 | shay_shay | i just discovered fish (shell) |
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| 05:40.12 | alphazulu | so debian will not be able to smoothly migrate all the apache config options like mod_access upon upgrade? |
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| 05:44.50 | Equa | alphazulu: do you have many virtual hosts? other than that, a few changes in the default.conf file wasn't so bad for me |
| 05:45.39 | alphazulu | Equa: no just a couple |
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| 06:08.39 | linuxthefish | !sources |
| 06:08.39 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 06:09.03 | linuxthefish | !mirrors |
| 06:09.03 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <httpredir.debian.org>, <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <ftpsync>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 06:09.19 | Equa | linuxthefish: you can do /msg dpkg keyword |
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| 07:09.31 | tdn | I run a local DNS server on Wheezy. When it has been running in a few days, it "stops working". That is, it ceases to resolve names in the internet correctly. It just gives an error that the domain name does not exist. However, when I check from a public DNS server, it does exist. Then I restart bind, and it starts working again. This happens periodically every few days. There is no obvious clues in the logs. Neither in the bind logs nor the general system logs (l |
| 07:09.32 | echo083 | hello, i've a suspend command but i can't find the executable on my computer when I start it nothing happens |
| 07:09.54 | tdn | What can cause this type of behavior? |
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| 07:10.14 | echo083 | tdn, which dns server are you using ? |
| 07:10.58 | tdn | echo083, bind |
| 07:11.02 | tdn | bind9 |
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| 07:12.08 | echo083 | tdn, locally the server still works ? |
| 07:12.19 | echo083 | tdn, in your local network |
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| 07:16.53 | echo083 | in fact to answer myself suspend is a bash command thanks myself ! not ironic just for info |
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| 07:19.09 | tdn | echo083, it does resolve most queries. It just stops resolving some. |
| 07:19.17 | tdn | echo083, and all local domains seem to work. |
| 07:19.24 | tdn | echo083, also *most* public domains. |
| 07:19.46 | tdn | echo083, but only a few stops working. For instance, the most recent one that stopped working was bygma.dk |
| 07:19.47 | echo083 | tdn, try this http://www.intodns.com/ |
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| 07:20.20 | tdn | echo083, how do I use that? |
| 07:20.30 | tdn | echo083, this is a local DNS server. It is not publicly available. |
| 07:21.17 | echo083 | tdn, "when I check from a public DNS server, it does exist" i thought you were talking about a domain |
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| 07:21.36 | echo083 | tdn, ok so your local dns server periodically fails |
| 07:21.58 | echo083 | tdn, dns server which you also use to resolve internet domains right ? |
| 07:22.00 | tdn | echo083, correct. And it fails to resolve public domain names. For example bygma.dk (most recent) |
| 07:22.06 | tdn | echo083, correct |
| 07:23.23 | echo083 | tdn, damn it i've to go i was helpless check your hardware remove your log files save your config files make a new install "apt-get remove bind9; apt-get install bind9" |
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| 07:36.35 | linuxthefish | what's the actual URL for "http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main"? |
| 07:36.52 | linuxthefish | http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/jessie/main is 404 |
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| 07:37.32 | shiin | I have a cron complaining on squeeze: /etc/cron.daily/apt: cp: cannot stat `/var/lib/apt/extended_states': No such file or directory and I'm not sure what caused it. I have other systems which have this file, and some don't. Is this a common issue? |
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| 07:38.02 | FelixFire619 | i installed a deb based distro, os-release reports wheezy, can i up to jessie easily? |
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| 07:39.31 | Stummi | linuxmodder, "http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/" - the directory layout below there should be intuitive |
| 07:39.36 | korhojoa | FelixFire619: well. you can try. you'll see if it works or not. |
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| 07:39.46 | Stummi | * linuxthefish ^^^ |
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| 07:40.47 | Stummi | linuxthefish, be aware that httpredir.debian.org redirects you to any mirror server near to you, and they handle directory listings different. |
| 07:41.20 | linuxthefish | yeah i was just trying to find what mirror i was using |
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| 07:41.50 | linuxthefish | whoops i was trying to use "http://httpredir.debian.org/debian" before without the trailing slash, sorry |
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| 07:43.02 | FelixFire619 | anyone recommend a p2p app? |
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| 07:43.22 | FelixFire619 | similar to like kazaa or napster |
| 07:45.02 | korhojoa | what year is it |
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| 07:53.48 | jubo2 | korhojoa: 2015 |
| 07:54.02 | NoirLess | morning. Its offtop, but, maybe, someone know - must i type, which card must use bumblebee for app every time, or it save settings? |
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| 08:22.27 | Burps | Hello : I'm trying to get http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.1.0-i386-standard.iso : but never gets the right md5sum,nor sha1sum : can someone else check this please ? |
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| 08:25.49 | allizom | Burps: so you obtain something different than 975685aa5db3d6dbe638b1ed8b014ca837b6199d right? |
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| 08:27.39 | Burps | sha1sum : 51d9a53f921bd469d2a016a41d5201f0c3047acb |
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| 08:27.52 | Burps | md5sum : 7816a74131e0edd16a1cbe27a6c9662a |
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| 08:28.34 | Lope | What tool can I use to make a flash drive that can boot multiple ISO images? |
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| 08:29.48 | Burps | allizom: someone ele got the right ssums, it must be me ;) |
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| 08:30.45 | allizom | ok, try another mirror then, like this one: http://gensho.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.1.0-i386-standard.iso |
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| 08:32.33 | korhojoa | for that file, i got B73DCEDED67CECEA5F1387BA917B70E5 |
| 08:32.55 | fourwalls | ^same |
| 08:33.00 | korhojoa | MD5SUMS says b73dceded67cecea5f1387ba917b70e5 debian-live-8.1.0-i386-standard.iso |
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| 08:33.45 | Burps | OK, sorry, my mistake, I've found what had failed on my side ;) |
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| 08:42.25 | pl | Hi. If I want to upload an upgraded package to mentor, should I change the "revision" number to it, or the new one will just overwrite the old one? |
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| 08:43.44 | themill | Lope: I know of no tool that actually does that well |
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| 08:44.41 | MCMic | Hello, is it possible to select a keymap like bépo in the debian installer? I can select France but I canât choose which one after that and I end up with azerty |
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| 08:46.13 | themill | pl: unless asked to do otherwise by someone offering to sponsor your package, just upload the updated package with the same version number. mentors.d.n is there for you to make mistakes and iterate on polishing a package and it's not an issue to reuse version numbers there. (You obviously can't reuse version numbers in packages uploaded to a real repo) |
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| 08:50.20 | pl | themill, the point is that I tried to do so, but I'm getting the same lintian warnings on mentors |
| 08:50.40 | pl | like if the package was not upgraded |
| 08:51.15 | Hanumaan | how to check motherboard for errors? or any other hardware? computer is suddenly hanging and display is also not working . need to restart and then works .. but this hapen very often .. how to to troubleshoot |
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| 08:52.40 | pl | well, the upload date the one of the previous package. Something went wrong |
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| 08:53.24 | Stummi | Hanumaan, problem is that motherboard-defects can appear in almost all varieties. Its almost impossible to automatically check for this |
| 08:53.36 | Stummi | Hanumaan, problems with the memory can be found with memtest |
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| 08:53.51 | Stummi | and you may can check for heating problems with sensors |
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| 08:55.05 | MCMic | How can I set the keyboard variant for debian installation please? |
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| 08:55.12 | ChrisH | Hanumaan: easiestest to start with would be 1) install memtest and run it 2) install mcelog and hope it logs something |
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| 08:58.13 | Iridos | Hanumaan, "hanging" - if this is a desktop, can you still log in via ssh? |
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| 08:58.48 | Hanumaan | Iridos, this is a server and I am right now near the server .. and login .. |
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| 08:59.19 | Hanumaan | ChrisH, installed mcelog but it did not log anything .. or could be that I have not properly installed .. |
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| 09:03.31 | Lope | I'm having trouble using multibootusb. When I open the program in the first tab, it looks like I should be able to add ISO's to the list in the box on the left but I can't find a way to do that. I've tried double clicking, right clicking, dragging files in...? http://sourceforge.net/projects/multibootusb/files/7.5.0/Linux/ |
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| 09:07.31 | ChrisH | Hanumaan: then run memtest while booting for at least one full cycle. |
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| 09:08.24 | Hanumaan | ChrisH, how to use memtest in the grub? |
| 09:11.38 | ChrisH | Hanumaan: use cursor to select and press enter... same as you select a different kernel |
| 09:12.26 | MCMic | Ok so from debian bugtracker it seems there is no way at all to select a keymap |
| 09:12.58 | MCMic | Iâm stuck typing blindly in azerty for things as the root password :-/ |
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| 09:13.54 | yei | hi ! |
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| 09:20.17 | Iridos | Hanumaan, I guess that means you tried ssh ... and even have running ssh sessions that fail... |
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| 09:21.15 | Iridos | Hanumaan, if it's a server and you're in the server room, you probably have some type of text serial console attached... what you want is an error message from the crash (i.e. from before it) |
| 09:22.42 | ttyX | I'm using Jessie and experiencing something like this bug in Fedora: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=995871 |
| 09:23.10 | ttyX | all windows and context menus turn black after some time |
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| 09:23.42 | NoirLess | @ttyX, got same bug on testing yesterday. Which de you use? |
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| 09:24.14 | ttyX | Stable |
| 09:24.26 | ttyX | Intel graphics |
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| 09:25.02 | NoirLess | im about "gnome/xfce/whatever" |
| 09:25.13 | zret763 | i am running jessie with just a window manager (icewm) and without pulseaudio, just plain alsa. in wheezy, the alsa-oss wrapper (aoss) worked fine, in jessie all programs i try to wrap with aoss say: /dev/dsp: no such file or directory. is LD_PRELOAD broken in jessie? |
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| 09:26.44 | ttyX | I'm on Gnome |
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| 09:27.08 | NoirLess | do you use some extensions? |
| 09:27.23 | ttyX | no extensions |
| 09:27.52 | NoirLess | hmh... anyways - i think, its smthing with gnome, not with debian |
| 09:28.04 | t4bme | How am I supposed to read that version string (dpkg -s output)? "1.7.0~beta1+really1.6.4+dfsg-1" So it claims to be 1.7.something but really it is 1.6.4? |
| 09:28.22 | ttyX | it started only yesterday, before that it was all ok, my guess is some update triggered it but then I only only installed day before yesterday |
| 09:28.27 | cuqa_ | hello. how can I make echo "+4.1" > /proc/fs/nfsd/versions sticky? |
| 09:28.40 | NoirLess | you can try other de and, if you ll get same problem, its smthing with debian |
| 09:28.56 | NoirLess | otherways - its gnome's bug |
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| 09:29.32 | wrwe | Hello , I'm using debian and when I shut down from the desktop i get to the tty displaying an "Ok to power off/down" message. How can I adjust the system to complete the shut-down on its own? |
| 09:29.39 | ttyX | it's a very annoying bug |
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| 09:30.07 | wrwe | For now I need to hard-shut-down |
| 09:31.15 | NoirLess | google says, you can "shutdown -h", but i wont know right |
| 09:31.23 | NoirLess | *d |
| 09:32.24 | wrwe | There is also shutdown -P ( I think ) |
| 09:32.35 | wrwe | but im searching for a non terminal way |
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| 09:32.55 | veek | my start-stop-daemon is missing what do i do |
| 09:33.24 | veek | apt-get gives me the error dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable |
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| 09:38.13 | themill | veek: sounds like you're missing sbin from root's PATH |
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| 09:38.57 | veek | nope it's there: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/en/:/usr/local/vim74/bin:/root/bin:/root/bin/linux:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/hda2/Office/program:/usr/local/share/firefox:/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_04/bin/:/sas/bin:/usr/local/openwin/bin/: |
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| 09:39.22 | veek | :/sbin:/usr/sbin |
| 09:39.43 | themill | that's a pretty screwy PATH |
| 09:39.53 | veek | agreed :p even so.. |
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| 09:40.05 | veek | i'll trim that meanwhile |
| 09:40.13 | themill | so is /sbin/start-stop-daemon not there? |
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| 09:41.19 | sanogo | hi |
| 09:41.54 | veek | yeah it's missing locate couldn't find it |
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| 09:42.27 | veek | which is very mysterious since the darn thing was working just fine |
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| 09:44.16 | themill | locate isn't the way of checking if a specific file is there |
| 09:44.44 | veek | i did run updatedb |
| 09:44.48 | themill | ls. |
| 09:45.18 | veek | ah nope that too |
| 09:45.28 | themill | But if it's missing, you might want to work out why. I assume you didn't uninstall dpkg. Could you have accidentally deleted it? If not, then start looking for filesystem corruption or dying hardware. |
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| 09:46.17 | veek | nope dpkg is there.. what's odd is apt-file can't find that file?? |
| 09:46.41 | themill | it's in dpkg. |
| 09:47.04 | themill | and apt-file should find it just fine (it does here) |
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| 09:48.17 | Philly | Hello, I've been told to set up SSH instead of password. I don't suppose anyone has a link to a guide to do this? |
| 09:48.32 | veek | let me update apt-file |
| 09:48.38 | Philly | I have followed guides before and they've been wrong, so thought I'd ask here :-) |
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| 09:49.00 | petn-randall | Philly: Do you mean public-key authentication instead of password authentication, for SSH? |
| 09:49.08 | Philly | petn-randall: Yes |
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| 09:49.52 | Philly | petn-randall: So at the moment, I've just logged in via ssh root@1.1.1.1 |
| 09:49.57 | Philly | petn-randall: using password |
| 09:50.19 | petn-randall | Philly: https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.remote-login.html#sect.ssh |
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| 09:50.41 | petn-randall | Philly: You own the 1.1.1.1 IP address? |
| 09:50.51 | Philly | petn-randall: =) |
| 09:50.59 | Philly | petn-randall: Thanks for the guide |
| 09:52.00 | petn-randall | Philly: You should be using an IP address from the private IP space. |
| 09:52.13 | Philly | petn-randall: that was just an example |
| 09:52.28 | petn-randall | Philly: Ok then, just wanted to be sure :) |
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| 09:58.24 | no_gravity | When I go to "Monitor Preferences" in Gnome it shows me my Apple 30" Cinema HD monitor with a resolutin of 800x600. Which is clearly wrong. The resolution is 2560x1600. It works correctly. Why the wrong info in the Monitor Settings? |
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| 10:03.49 | fireba11 | hi, what's the suggested method if i want to provide someone with a ssh account and limit access to a certain folder? |
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| 10:17.20 | Iridos | fireba11, chmod -x on all other folders |
| 10:18.18 | Iridos | fireba11, that was the short answer... the slightly longer answer is: what you think to do isn't really a good idea. you think it is, but it isn't |
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| 10:26.13 | no_gravity | fireba11: its not easy. because every folder in your filesystem has its own access rights. |
| 10:26.51 | fireba11 | hm .. 'k ... |
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| 10:37.09 | zret763 | i am running jessie with just a window manager (icewm) and without pulseaudio, just plain alsa. in wheezy, the alsa-oss wrapper (aoss) worked fine, in jessie all programs i try to wrap with aoss say: /dev/dsp: no such file or directory. is LD_PRELOAD broken in jessie? |
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| 11:06.10 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 11:06.11 | dpkg | <RQ> mwilson, i don't care what you think of me as long as you're helpful. |
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| 11:07.29 | Philly | Hello, I'm looking at setting up public/private keys. I am looking to upload the contents of my key file, but I can't find the directory: root@ysnl1:~# cd ~/.ssh/ -bash: cd: /root/.ssh/: No such file or directory |
| 11:07.29 | er4z0r | how does one get info about kernel modules? can no longer find modinfo on my jessie system |
| 11:07.37 | Philly | Any ideas? |
| 11:07.50 | er4z0r | Philly: create the directory? |
| 11:08.07 | jelly | Philly: be the user that created the key pair, not roort |
| 11:08.09 | jelly | root* |
| 11:08.12 | gbx3621 | Philly: mkdir -m 700 /root/.ssh |
| 11:08.35 | jelly | Philly: or are you talking about the remote, client side |
| 11:08.36 | Philly | So I created the key on my Mac, and I am currently logging in to the server as root. |
| 11:08.40 | er4z0r | yeah, ssh login as root is a big no-go anyway |
| 11:09.12 | Philly | I am the only one using the server, and no doubt I'll want to do things as root. |
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| 11:09.15 | jelly | it's not a "big no-go" as much as "be aware of the implications" and "not a sane default when password auth is enabled" |
| 11:09.30 | gbx3621 | er4z0r: maybe it is not in your $PATH. try /sbin/modinfo. |
| 11:10.02 | Philly | So would I have to create new pair for each user, if I were to create multiple users? |
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| 11:10.31 | jelly | Philly: many enterprises choose to disallow direct logging in to root for auditing purposes. You log in as normal user, then su to root. That way, it's clear which person logged in. |
| 11:10.39 | er4z0r | gbx3621: already did. zsh: no such file or directory: /sbin/modinfo |
| 11:10.50 | Philly | jelly: Ah right, then when you su it asks for the root password? |
| 11:10.54 | jelly | yes. |
| 11:11.02 | er4z0r | lemme guess: systemd is doing that as well, now ;-) |
| 11:11.07 | Philly | jelly: whereas at the moment I am logging in as root and su into other users |
| 11:11.10 | gbx3621 | er4z0r: dpkg -S /sbin/modinfo gives kmod: /sbin/modinfo |
| 11:11.11 | jelly | !slap er4z0r |
| 11:11.11 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across er4z0r's face |
| 11:11.19 | Mohamed_DZ | can I update quiterss to latest one? |
| 11:11.26 | gbx3621 | er4z0r: thus the package is kmod |
| 11:11.38 | gbx3621 | er4z0r: do you have that installed? |
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| 11:12.26 | Mohamed_DZ | I removed it & installed again but still on 0.17 |
| 11:12.56 | er4z0r | gbx3621: nope, guess that was the issue |
| 11:13.38 | Other | Hi everyone, I play a game and I was switch off the sound by Fn key. But if I switch it on again the sound douesn't work. Any help please? |
| 11:13.46 | gbx3621 | er4z0r: but kmod is in the base system. i wonder how you managed to have it not installed. |
| 11:14.34 | Mohamed_DZ | Other: just in the game or anywhere? |
| 11:14.44 | Other | Anywhere |
| 11:14.50 | Other | Mohamed_DZ: anywhere |
| 11:15.20 | Other | Mohamed_DZ: I was trying reboot and poweroff and on again, no efect |
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| 11:16.05 | Google | hi, how can I print my color aliases in terminal? |
| 11:16.20 | Mohamed_DZ | Other; go to audioMixer & change the sound configuration |
| 11:16.42 | Stummi | Google, your color aliases? |
| 11:16.45 | Stummi | whats a color aluas? |
| 11:16.51 | Stummi | *alias |
| 11:17.29 | Google | Stummi: I mean for e.g. "green" will provide either #00ff00 or #008000 |
| 11:17.36 | Other | Mohamed_DZ: I don't have the sound settings in computer setting or anywhere |
| 11:17.52 | Stummi | Google, what does this has to do with the terminal? |
| 11:18.06 | Google | because my terminal sets the colors |
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| 11:18.22 | Mohamed_DZ | Other: Go to Audiomixer program |
| 11:18.29 | Stummi | Google, bot your terminal does not know anything about colornames |
| 11:18.39 | Google | Stummi: like that: https://sdkmvx.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/ansi-colors.png |
| 11:19.08 | Stummi | Google, take a look into the colors script |
| 11:19.29 | Google | where can I find these script? |
| 11:19.44 | Stummi | since you invoked it as ./colors, its in . |
| 11:19.49 | Other | Mohamed_DZ: Yes, my computer think he have an headphones whish was only one muted. Now it works. Thank you |
| 11:20.08 | Stummi | anyway, terminals don't know anything about color names. Colors are referenced by numbers/indexes. green is 2 |
| 11:20.11 | Google | Stummi: thats not my screenshot |
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| 11:20.13 | Mohamed_DZ | Other: You are welcome |
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| 11:20.21 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 11:20.24 | Stummi | Google, okay |
| 11:20.37 | tite12345 | I did not choose a mirror for me to get packages from |
| 11:20.39 | Stummi | Google, probably the color names are defined somewhere. As said, green is 2 |
| 11:20.46 | Google | yep I agree |
| 11:20.47 | tite12345 | How do I add mirrors for me to get my packages from? |
| 11:21.02 | Stummi | Google, try this: "tput setaf 2; echo Color 2 should be green in most terminals" |
| 11:21.17 | Google | thats why with zshrc for .e.g I can specify "green" and it gives me the color 2, thats why I want to check the aliases |
| 11:21.21 | jelly | tite12345: which debian release are you using? |
| 11:21.26 | tite12345 | I already tried `deb deb http://ftp.*.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib |
| 11:21.27 | tite12345 | deb-src http://ftp.*.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib` but to no avail |
| 11:21.34 | tite12345 | I can't easily get packages like artha. |
| 11:21.39 | tite12345 | jelly: 8.1 |
| 11:21.40 | Stummi | Google, "alias green" |
| 11:21.41 | tite12345 | The latest stable |
| 11:21.47 | Stummi | or "alias" to list all aliases |
| 11:21.49 | jelly | tite12345: read /msg dpkg jessie sources.list |
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| 11:26.59 | Iridos | I am confused... Google should answer questions, not ask them |
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| 11:29.49 | ToApolytoXaos | greetings everyone. is it possible to restart multiple services at once from terminal? |
| 11:29.53 | Iridos | Google, is this about escape codes? |
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| 11:30.04 | Google | Iridos: nope |
| 11:30.25 | Iridos | the screenshot seems to show ansi/escape code colors, though |
| 11:30.31 | Iridos | so what is it you want to do? |
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| 11:32.16 | Google | Iridos: yes, I just want something to show the colors according to names |
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| 11:32.30 | Google | for blue, green, black, white, red... |
| 11:32.37 | Iridos | what do you want that for, was the question |
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| 11:33.11 | Google | to change default colors in rxvt and see the results |
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| 11:33.55 | Iridos | hm, default colors for what? |
| 11:34.17 | Iridos | are you talking about ls dircolors? |
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| 11:36.55 | Stummi | you probably can change the colors in rxvt via xresources |
| 11:38.44 | ToApolytoXaos | Google: what exactly are you trying to do? I just logged in and cannot see the whole conversation |
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| 11:41.15 | Google | Stummi: yes I can via Xresources, but I want to see the result with a script |
| 11:41.53 | Stummi | Google, so you want a script printing out all possible colors your terminal currently supports? |
| 11:42.07 | Google | ToApolytoXaos: I'm trying to show the colors name with the colors set, just like that: https://sdkmvx.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/ansi-colors.png |
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| 11:42.18 | Google | hum |
| 11:42.21 | Stummi | here you go (bash): for c in {0..256}; do tput setaf $c; echo "Color $c"; done |
| 11:42.23 | Google | only colors that got an alias |
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| 11:42.49 | Stummi | Google, you terminal or any invoked script does not know anything about the aliases your shell has set |
| 11:42.57 | ToApolytoXaos | Google: for which terminal? |
| 11:43.00 | Google | rxvt |
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| 11:43.19 | tite12345 | jelly: Thanks! |
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| 11:43.34 | tite12345 | jelly: How do I read about `Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".` |
| 11:43.41 | Stummi | Google, if you can write "green" to change color to green, its possible because you have something like alias green="tput setaf 3" in your .bashrc |
| 11:43.52 | ToApolytoXaos | Google: well, I use xterm and have set up its colors to look like sublime text editor's default color theme |
| 11:44.32 | Stummi | but colors don't have aliases |
| 11:45.04 | markybob | tite12345, you /msg dpkg |
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| 11:45.38 | Mohamed_DZ | what does /msg meas? |
| 11:45.40 | Google | Stummi: I don't have anything like this in my .zshrc (I use zsh) and still I can tell "green" or "magenta" etc. to change colors |
| 11:45.47 | ToApolytoXaos | Google: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rxvt-unicode#Colors |
| 11:45.49 | Mohamed_DZ | means* |
| 11:46.13 | Stummi | Google, what says "type green"? |
| 11:46.20 | markybob | it means you type it into your irc client to send a private message. dpkg is a bot with factoids |
| 11:46.32 | Google | Stummi: "green not found" |
| 11:46.40 | p3rror | hello |
| 11:46.48 | p3rror | How to troubleshoot time desynchronization between a host and a ntp server |
| 11:46.53 | Google | ToApolytoXaos: yes, I'm doing this but I want to see the results :) |
| 11:46.56 | Stummi | Google, okay, what do you mean with "I can tell green to change colors" - you can just type "green" into your prompt and green text appears? |
| 11:47.07 | Google | Stummi: exactly |
| 11:47.17 | Mohamed_DZ | markybob: Thanks, It's my 1st time on IRC |
| 11:47.27 | Stummi | when I start zsh and type "green" is just says "command not found: green" so its probably some strange hack you did in your zsh via strange configuration or something |
| 11:47.39 | Google | Stummi: and then if I modify the green color value in Xresources it changes accordingly in my prompt |
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| 11:48.42 | jelly | tite12345: like this, for example: /msg dpkg deb-src |
| 11:49.09 | Google | Stummi: well maybe thats "autoload -U colors && colors" in my zshrc |
| 11:49.17 | Stummi | Google, I don't know what you did to your zsh, so I am sorry I can't help you. "green" is neither a command nor a builtin per default |
| 11:50.02 | Google | my .zshrc is basic, must be a built in feature of zsh (and enabled with autoload -U colors && colors) |
| 11:50.10 | jelly | Stummi: /usr/share/zsh/functions/Misc/colors is packaged |
| 11:50.33 | Stummi | eddie% autoload -U colors && colors && green |
| 11:50.34 | Stummi | zsh: command not found: green |
| 11:50.46 | Stummi | he still dies something strange if he says this works for him |
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| 11:50.49 | Stummi | *does |
| 11:50.49 | veek | i know there's a bug in autofs/ntfs-3g basically i get 'ntfs-3g: Unknown option '-s'' when using autofs.. how do i locate the bug in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 11:50.56 | veek | a quick way |
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| 11:51.04 | jelly | Google: care to show a screenshot? |
| 11:51.07 | xauth | p3rror: syslog, tcpdump, ntpq -pn. |
| 11:51.07 | Google | Stummi: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Zsh#Colors |
| 11:51.21 | Google | jelly: a screenshot of what? :) |
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| 11:51.40 | jelly | Google: of "green" used as a command working |
| 11:51.51 | oufo | Google: try this: echo "\e[00;30m" black |
| 11:51.53 | veek | i get server error with http://bugs-search.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi |
| 11:52.05 | Stummi | Google, you told me you just type "green" and you see green text, right? |
| 11:52.05 | oufo | change 00 to 01 to get bold, 30 to 37 for the 8 colors |
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| 11:56.11 | Iridos | Google, how do you "tell green" in that sentence: <Google> Stummi: I don't have anything like this in my .zshrc (I use zsh) and still I can tell "green" or "magenta" etc. to change colors |
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| 11:56.43 | Stummi | Iridos: |
| 11:56.45 | Stummi | Stummi> Google, okay, what do you mean with "I can tell green to change colors" - you can just type "green" into your prompt and green text appears? |
| 11:56.45 | Stummi | <Google> Stummi: exactly |
| 11:56.50 | Google | Iridos: like that: %{$fg[green]%} |
| 11:57.00 | Google | yes |
| 11:57.24 | Iridos | what is that? |
| 11:57.25 | Stummi | %{$fg[green]%} is not just "green" but "%{$fg[green]%} |
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| 11:58.09 | Stummi | *sigh* why didn't you said this before? Could have save a lot of frustration... |
| 11:58.20 | Stummi | you want to know the possible keys for the fg array, thats it |
| 11:58.27 | Stummi | echo ${(k)fg} |
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| 11:59.07 | Iridos | oh, so he has a custom fg array defined from somewhere? |
| 11:59.17 | Iridos | but... if he didn't define that, then the system should have |
| 11:59.30 | Iridos | and on my debian system a zsh doesn't have a fg array |
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| 11:59.40 | Google | Stummi: thanks :) we are almost there! |
| 11:59.42 | Iridos | so I start wondering if this is even debian |
| 11:59.55 | jelly | Iridos: because you didn't "autoload -U colors; colors" |
| 11:59.56 | Stummi | Iridos, autoload -U colors && colors |
| 12:00.01 | Iridos | ah |
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| 12:00.12 | Google | Stummi: so it shows effectively the color names, but with no colors, (its all white) how can I put colors to see what it represents? |
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| 12:01.09 | Stummi | Google: with logic: for k in ${(k)fg}; do echo ${fg[$k]} $k; done |
| 12:01.20 | Iridos | colors is a zsh shell function? /o\ |
| 12:01.49 | Google | Stummi: perfect :) |
| 12:01.52 | Iridos | and so is autoload |
| 12:01.57 | oufo | Google: 'echo "\e[01;33m" bold yellow' change 00 to 01 to get "not bold", 30 to 37 for the 8 colors. put a bunch of echo commands in a text file and chmod +x it to make a script |
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| 12:02.43 | Google | yep, thx |
| 12:03.10 | Stummi | Google, you terminal has probably more than these few colors, btw |
| 12:03.35 | Stummi | oufo, hardhacking terminfo codes is bad, don't do this |
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| 12:05.11 | oufo | hardhacking is a strong verb |
| 12:05.43 | oufo | i used to have colors in my bash prompt like that 15 years ago |
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| 12:06.00 | Stummi | oufo, why not via tput? |
| 12:06.51 | Stummi | $ tput setaf 3; tput bold; echo bold yellow |
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| 12:07.47 | oufo | Stummi: that is nice. i didn't know of it back then |
| 12:08.04 | Stummi | now you know |
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| 12:08.41 | Stummi | also, a posix compatible echo doesn't has a -e flag ;) |
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| 12:09.15 | Stummi | $ dash -c "echo -e foo" |
| 12:09.15 | Stummi | -e foo |
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| 12:09.59 | Mohamed_DZ | Any program to transferring files between two different OSs (LAN)? |
| 12:10.28 | Mohamed_DZ | what do you think about Dukto? |
| 12:10.33 | Iridos | Stummi, escape codes are "hardhacking terminfo codes"??? |
| 12:10.51 | Stummi | Mohamed_DZ, ftp, http are good protocolls to transfer files. There are serval client and server applications for both protocols for the mose OSes |
| 12:11.01 | Stummi | Iridos, yes |
| 12:11.20 | Iridos | oufo, haha... my next sentence was going to be "I've probably used escape codes in my shells for about 20 years, so I wonder what may be bad about them" |
| 12:11.24 | Iridos | Stummi, ^^^ that |
| 12:11.33 | Mohamed_DZ | Stummi: you mean like FileZilla ! |
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| 12:11.37 | jelly | Iridos: terminals are not all the same. |
| 12:11.51 | jelly | (ie. not everything is an xterm) |
| 12:11.53 | Stummi | Iridos, "\e[01;33m" is a hard hacked escape sequence which may or may not set a color on your current terminal, or do something completly different |
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| 12:12.09 | jelly | Stummi: "hardcoded" |
| 12:12.09 | markybob | Mohamed_DZ, it works. if they're both *nix, i like rsync |
| 12:12.35 | Iridos | jelly, I don't use 100 different types of terminal, though... and if I do - for some strange reason on some strange computer... so what |
| 12:12.42 | Mohamed_DZ | markybob: no linux & windows |
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| 12:13.08 | Iridos | also, I'd usually check for terminal-type to not run into problems with the text-console |
| 12:13.13 | jelly | Iridos: that's fine as long as absolutely noone else but you uses your scripts |
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| 12:13.24 | markybob | Mohamed_DZ, then you know the saying, "keep it simple, stupid"...so yeah, filezilla |
| 12:13.35 | Iridos | jelly, it's also fine if you check for TERM=xterm |
| 12:13.41 | jelly | Iridos: no, it's not |
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| 12:14.21 | Mohamed_DZ | markybob: I think it's Arch |
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| 12:14.43 | jelly | because... not everything is an xterm |
| 12:14.44 | Iridos | jelly, you are oppugnistic |
| 12:15.06 | jelly | 20 years ago, not everything was a vt100 |
| 12:15.07 | Iridos | jelly, everything that has TERM=xterm set in the environment should act like an xterm |
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| 12:16.18 | watmm | I'm trying to rebuild a package from source so i run "pbuilder create" and "pdebuild", but the latter command gives "curl: (6) Could not resolve host: dl.google.com", which leads to "gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file". Any ideas? |
| 12:17.12 | f-a | mildly OT: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/toxcore-development#/story <-- tl;dr free, distributed, encrypted replacement to Skype. Developer is good & dedicated but not the best marketing guy. I pledged a small sun, deadline is in a few hours. I thought some people here might care, so I am sharing. |
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| 12:17.38 | markybob | f-a, we don't. and there's #debian-offtopic |
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| 12:18.49 | d3lphi | hi all. I am trying "service samba start" and get error "Failed to start samba.server: Unit samba.service is masked." So I checked with "systemctl list-unit-files |grep -i samba" and indeed the samba service is listed as *masked*. Then I run |
| 12:19.17 | d3lphi | "systemctl unmask samba.service" but it doesn't change anything. The service is still listed as masked and thus not startable. Why? What's going on there? weird |
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| 12:20.46 | Google | Stummi: do you know how can I increase the default array "echo ${(k)fg}" with color names like in this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11_color_names#Color_name_chart |
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| 12:22.59 | jelly | Google: find the colors definitions in the zsh package and edit them to your liking, taking into account what your terminal supports |
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| 12:23.40 | jelly | mapping of X11 colors to xterm 88 set or xterm 256 set is left as an exercise for the reader |
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| 12:30.00 | f-a | markybob: I dwell #debian-offtopic on OFTC. I took the liberty of posting this here because incredibly tight deadline and a project I would hate to see failing for just a few dollars. If that bothered you, sorry. |
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| 12:32.02 | Furai | Hey guys, I'm just installing debian. |
| 12:32.09 | Furai | I have question about bootable flag. |
| 12:32.13 | Furai | Where to set it? |
| 12:32.24 | Furai | I have ssd and normal disk. |
| 12:32.39 | Furai | SSD I have divided into root mount point and swap |
| 12:32.43 | Furai | And the other disk as /home |
| 12:32.52 | f-a | Furai: iirc fdisk? |
| 12:33.26 | Furai | I'm just using standard debian installer from the pendrive. |
| 12:33.29 | f-a | sorry, gparted I meant |
| 12:33.34 | f-a | oh |
| 12:33.42 | f-a | misunderstood your question |
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| 12:34.18 | rozie | Furai: you can set it to / or just skip boot flag |
| 12:34.31 | rozie | it isn't required for Linux to work |
| 12:35.09 | Mohamed_DZ | I didn't set it |
| 12:35.18 | rozie | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/23560/what-is-the-bootable-flag-option-when-installing-a-distro |
| 12:35.41 | Furai | Ok, then I won't. |
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| 12:35.53 | f-a | do you havemore than 1 os on it, Furai ? |
| 12:35.58 | Furai | As I'm googling the bootable flag is leagcy, kind of? |
| 12:36.04 | Furai | Because grub wasn't on MBR before? |
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| 12:36.15 | Furai | f-a, nope, not at the moment. |
| 12:36.24 | Furai | Maybe I'll try some different linux distros. |
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| 12:36.37 | Furai | But that's distant future. |
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| 12:37.12 | jelly | Furai: if you're using legacy (BIOS) booting, boot flag is irrelevant |
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| 12:37.42 | Furai | clicks "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk". |
| 12:37.45 | jelly | with UEFI, it seems to be the marker for that boot efi fat partition |
| 12:37.51 | Furai | And it's gone. |
| 12:37.57 | Mohamed_DZ | After installing check "things to do after installing debian jessie" thread |
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| 12:38.21 | jelly | there's a thread? |
| 12:38.29 | Furai | Mohamed_DZ, if I'll run into any problems I'll try it out. |
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| 12:39.01 | Mohamed_DZ | I mean like this http://www.dailylinuxnews.com/blog/2014/09/things-to-do-after-installing-debian-jessie/ |
| 12:39.47 | Mohamed_DZ | updating source.list, package manager, add sudo, etc... |
| 12:40.25 | Mohamed_DZ | It's not an answer to your question |
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| 12:42.34 | jelly | too bad the author doesn't explain the reasoning for most of those changes |
| 12:43.33 | petn-randall | jelly: That would only be in the way of carg-culting your way through the installation. |
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| 12:43.54 | jelly | o/ |
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| 12:44.22 | Mohamed_DZ | jelly: where can I find best one |
| 12:45.03 | jelly | Mohamed_DZ: "best" depends on your needs and wants. |
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| 12:45.39 | Mohamed_DZ | just default, it's good |
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| 12:46.10 | Furai | f-a, woot, why did you check my IRC client version? :P |
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| 12:46.48 | Furai | To see if I'm competent IRC user? |
| 12:47.03 | f-a | Furai: to check whether you were on Linux or Win/OSX |
| 12:47.18 | Furai | It's running all the time on my screen on my server. |
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| 12:47.23 | Furai | I ssh to it. |
| 12:47.25 | f-a | as I misread your question as "how to make pendrive bootable" |
| 12:47.32 | Furai | In past I was doing it from Windows. |
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| 12:48.05 | f-a | to which I would have replied download xyz and it'll make the usb stick bootable for you without hassle |
| 12:48.08 | Furai | Ok, make sense though it wouldn't give you much information about me. Better just to ask. |
| 12:48.19 | Furai | :) |
| 12:48.24 | Furai | makes* |
| 12:48.35 | f-a | Furai: yep |
| 12:48.59 | ezra-s | Furai: all that fuss about a simple ctcp query |
| 12:49.00 | f-a | (but you have no idea on how many people cannot answer a question like "which OS are you using?") |
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| 12:49.26 | Furai | Yeah, sorry, I forgot that no chitchat here allowed. Only serious business. |
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| 12:50.36 | ezra-s | ? |
| 12:50.38 | Furai | Mohamed_DZ, I think most of the stuff got covered in the installer. Thanks for the link though. |
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| 12:51.24 | Furai | Is basic DE in debian any good? So far I have only worked with Debian over ssh. |
| 12:51.35 | Furai | Should I get Gnome or some derivative? |
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| 12:51.42 | anon_ | what is the significance of adding jessie or trusty in the <distribution> segment of a source in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 12:51.51 | gp5st | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.09 | ezra-s | Furai: depends on your needs, for work I find Mate most convinient |
| 12:52.56 | markybob | Furai, try and see. i love xfce |
| 12:52.59 | Furai | Are DEs taking a lot of disk space? |
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| 12:53.17 | Kathgrar | Furai: It depends what DE you want or need |
| 12:53.22 | Furai | I have so far only some experience with KDE, Gnome and whatever was default on Fedora. |
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| 12:53.42 | Furai | Ah, and that unity ubuntu stuff. |
| 12:53.45 | markybob | Furai, xfce is far more simplistic and smaller than those |
| 12:53.48 | jelly | Furai: is 2 or 5 GB a lot? |
| 12:54.00 | Furai | jelly, to be honest, not really. |
| 12:54.08 | jelly | then no, they don't :-) |
| 12:54.12 | Kathgrar | I like Xfce, minimal and comfortable, easy to use ;) |
| 12:54.35 | Furai | I'm going to use it mostly for developing. |
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| 12:55.01 | revision | To help keep FVWM alive and active I feel I have to mention it, although it is just a WM, not an entire DE. :-) |
| 12:55.03 | Furai | I don't need any other fancy feature except for multiple workspaces. |
| 12:55.05 | Mohamed_DZ | I like XFCE, but other are good too |
| 12:55.17 | ezra-s | MATE |
| 12:55.33 | Furai | Ok, so as many people as many opinions. |
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| 12:55.47 | Furai | I'll just give them a try and see what I like. :) |
| 12:55.51 | ezra-s | xfce and mate are quite alike |
| 12:56.03 | Mohamed_DZ | yes, it's about what you like |
| 12:56.08 | Kathgrar | MATE is good too, but (in my experiences) not really user-friendly and comfortable, e.g. panel settings |
| 12:56.31 | Furai | Debian installed. Thanks guys. :) |
| 12:56.32 | revision | Furai: I have tried countless of them. I suggest you do the same. |
| 12:56.42 | revision | Kathgrar: What's "user-friendly" is highly subjective. |
| 12:56.49 | ezra-s | Kathgrar: there is nothing easier than panel settings in mate, you must be confusing with something else |
| 12:57.00 | Kathgrar | ezra-s: it seems so |
| 12:57.11 | Kathgrar | I like Xfce and use that ;) |
| 12:57.41 | Furai | Woot, awkward. I misspelled my name when setting up my user. |
| 12:57.53 | Furai | Is it possible to change it somewhere? |
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| 12:58.06 | Kathgrar | delete the old one, and create a new one |
| 12:58.06 | revision | Furai: Your username or full name? |
| 12:58.11 | Furai | Full name |
| 12:58.15 | Ticho | usermod -c |
| 12:58.51 | Furai | So far basic debian DE looks ok to me. |
| 12:59.09 | Kathgrar | It seems that my test machine can't handle the ' é ' in my full name :( |
| 12:59.45 | Furai | Why wouldn't it though? Don't you have to set some utf8 flag somewhere? |
| 12:59.55 | anon_ | what is the significance of adding jessie or trusty in the <distribution> segment of a source in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 13:00.11 | Kathgrar | I think I have ISO-8559-1, and not UTF-8 enabled ... |
| 13:00.19 | Iridos | Furai, if you don't need a DE, for just a WM, openbox seems quite nice... you can also /msg dpkg popcon ... to see how many people use what package |
| 13:00.24 | ezra-s | anon_: name of the distribution, trusty is ubuntu! |
| 13:00.27 | jelly | anon_: well, you're not adding it really -- it's mandatory |
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| 13:00.56 | ezra-s | better not mix both |
| 13:00.58 | jelly | anon_: it enables one repo to carry binaries built for different releases (and ever distributions) |
| 13:01.03 | markybob | anon_, so it knows where to pull things from...just like windows updates has to know if you're on xp or 7 or 10 |
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| 13:01.32 | Furai | blasphemy, no vim by default |
| 13:01.39 | anon_ | i was trying to install something and when i used jessie i was getting dependncy problems. |
| 13:01.51 | anon_ | i replaced jessie with trusty and problem solved |
| 13:01.54 | Kathgrar | It would be good to make test machine (virtualized or physical) and test the different DE's, and at your final install choose what you prefer and like |
| 13:02.06 | anon_ | jessie is what comes up in debian_version |
| 13:02.06 | ezra-s | anon_: are you using debian? |
| 13:02.06 | markybob | anon_, and now you're not able to be supported by this channel |
| 13:02.12 | anon_ | mint |
| 13:02.24 | jelly | anon_: if you actually have jessie installed, that means the stuff from that repo was buggy |
| 13:02.42 | ezra-s | mint is ubuntu LTS, except for lmde2 |
| 13:02.53 | jelly | anon_: mint's a different distro so all bets are off |
| 13:02.59 | anon_ | ezra-s: right |
| 13:03.19 | ezra-s | anon_: how come did you end up with "jessie" in your sources list then? |
| 13:03.22 | anon_ | so im wondering why my package worked for trusty and not jessie |
| 13:03.31 | Kathgrar | anon_: #linuxmint, and follow the instroductions in the topic |
| 13:03.33 | markybob | anon_, on mint. how should we know? |
| 13:03.41 | anon_ | jessie is what is in debian)version |
| 13:03.49 | anon_ | debian_version |
| 13:03.53 | ezra-s | 8 |
| 13:03.53 | Furai | Iridos, the most popular choice isn't always the best. :) But thanks for the tips. Also it's full installation and not VM. |
| 13:03.58 | jelly | anon_: right, but that's basically a lie |
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| 13:04.25 | jelly | anon_: apparently the authors of mint just didn't care to fix that information |
| 13:04.36 | Kathgrar | jelly: Ubuntu too ;) |
| 13:04.47 | jelly | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 13:05.20 | Kathgrar | anon_: #linuxmint, and follow the introductions in the topic |
| 13:05.27 | nebg | hello everyone... i have a laptop pc using with i3.... what do you advice for power management and battery management ? |
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| 13:06.52 | bolt | I have a funky issue where I'm starting autossh from /etc/rc.local on a Jessie machine. I start it by calling a bash script that in turn runs "nohup autossh [...] >/dev/null 2>&1 & disown". When I do this and shut down the machine, I get "A stop job is running for /etc/rc.local Compatibility" with an endless timeout, and it never finishes. Commenting out this line from the bash script that rc.local runs allows me to reboot cleanly next time. My question, the |
| 13:06.52 | bolt | n, is how can nohup, redirecting stdout and stderr, as well as disown, not be enough? How is it still stuck on this? |
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| 13:07.33 | ezra-s | nebg: acpid and cpufreqd |
| 13:07.48 | bolt | It might be a bad idea to start autossh from /etc/rc.local, but I still really want to know why I can't cleanly detach that process with nohup, output redirection and "disown" |
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| 13:11.50 | Iridos | bolt, is this already with systemd? |
| 13:12.01 | jelly | bolt: did you tell ssh not to allocate the tty? |
| 13:12.13 | note1989 | Hi im haveing trouble with time, here is the output from ntpq -p. it looks strange http://pastebin.com/FJMRbxxr |
| 13:12.30 | jelly | tho that's for the remote side. |
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| 13:12.52 | dawid_ | hello |
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| 13:13.23 | dawid_ | i have a problem with scroll on debian 7, gnome 3 |
| 13:13.37 | dawid_ | i have not scroll |
| 13:13.45 | jelly | note1989: leave it running for 10-15 minutes at least |
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| 13:14.20 | dawid_ | i have tried a lot of programs and scripts, nothing works pretty |
| 13:14.21 | Mohamed_DZ | how can I register my name here? |
| 13:14.48 | note1989 | jelly: the computer ? |
| 13:14.50 | markybob | Mohamed_DZ, /msg nickserv help register |
| 13:14.54 | jelly | note1989: no, ntpd |
| 13:15.34 | jelly | but the computer too... |
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| 13:16.29 | note1989 | jelly: haha, NTP is running isent that the same thing ? |
| 13:16.36 | jelly | yes. |
| 13:16.48 | note1989 | jelly: sudo service ntp status >> [ok] |
| 13:17.04 | jelly | sometimes it needs a bit to connect and sync up with peers |
| 13:17.07 | note1989 | jeally: i have had my computer running for 50 min |
| 13:17.08 | Mohamed_DZ | markybob: is that default password in e-mail? |
| 13:17.22 | jelly | note1989: oh, in that case you may have firewall/networking issues |
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| 13:18.09 | note1989 | jelly: can i see the logs somewhere ? |
| 13:18.09 | markybob | Mohamed_DZ, in email? i don't know what you mean. /msg NickServ REGISTER bar foo@bar.com |
| 13:18.30 | markybob | Mohamed_DZ, bar being the password |
| 13:19.57 | Mohamed_DZ | markybob: sorry, I didn't understand, I virefy me e-mail, is the last one a default password? VERIFY REGISTER Mohamed_DZ ***** |
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| 13:21.41 | markybob | Mohamed_DZ, apparently things have changed since i did it in the mid '90s. i don't know of any email passwords |
| 13:22.31 | BotaniCar | note1989: ntp log messages are ( IMO ) places in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog |
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| 13:29.04 | bolt | Iridos: as far as I know, yes |
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| 13:32.08 | bolt | jelly: yes, ssh is run with -T |
| 13:32.31 | bolt | jelly: it still seems to somehow be attached to the process running rc.local |
| 13:33.53 | jelly | bolt: stupid solution: daemonize it use the "daemon" wrapper tool. Less stupid: make a systemd service unit |
| 13:34.00 | jelly | ,i daemon |
| 13:34.01 | judd | Package daemon (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: turns other processes into daemons. Version: 0.6.4-1; Size: 95.1k; Installed: 276k; Homepage: http://www.libslack.org/daemon/ |
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| 13:36.53 | bolt | jelly: i'll probably end up with the service unit, but i'm interested in how this can happen. pstree shows, after boot, the autossh process as being run directly under systemd. still won't reboot. if I remove autossh from the script and start it after booting, I can reboot just fine. it also works fine if I do it from @reboot in cron, for intance. what's so special about /etc/rc.local? |
| 13:37.43 | bolt | instance* |
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| 13:39.53 | elysium | are there plans to bring ssl 1.0.2 to jessie? |
| 13:39.58 | elysium | *openssl |
| 13:40.15 | themill | dpkg: tell elysium about stable |
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| 13:41.01 | elysium | SSLOpenSSLConfCmd DHParameters is not working with 1.0.1, it's a security thing |
| 13:42.39 | jelly | elysium: or you can just put the dhparams in the same file as your ecdha certs, isn't that the common workaround for 1.0.1? |
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| 13:45.13 | murder | hi, mindf*ck, unfortunately: root's default shell on /etc/passwd is /usr/local/bin/bash, someone remove the iconv lib from /usr/local/lib needed by /usr/local/bin/bash, so, root's shell is broken, other users only have 'sudo su -' which will force the use of root's shell, any hints? |
| 13:45.14 | elysium | jelly: i've added it to /etc/apache2/mods-enables/ssl.conf where it doesn't |
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| 13:46.30 | jelly | murder: now you've learned one valuable lesson: do not change root's login shell without goot reason |
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| 13:47.07 | murder | exactly. |
| 13:47.35 | Mohamed_DZ1 | why my username changed? |
| 13:47.54 | Mohamed_DZ1 | from Mohamed_DZ to Mohamed_DZ1 |
| 13:48.02 | elysium | disconnect, autoreconnect with alternative name you given |
| 13:48.12 | jelly | Mohamed_DZ1: your client timed out and disconnected while the irc server thought the old one was still there |
| 13:48.21 | Mohamed_DZ1 | I want the last one |
| 13:48.21 | vagon | try /nick Mohamed_DZ |
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| 13:48.41 | Mohamed_DZ | Thanks |
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| 13:49.46 | jelly | murder: if you really only can run "su -" with sudo, and not su with other options, or sudo -i, then you'll have to reboot with a live/rescue image to change things |
| 13:49.57 | murder | yes. |
| 13:50.05 | petn-randall | murder: Boot a live system, and fix /etc/passwd by hand. |
| 13:50.06 | murder | I think the best idea is to try to find a local exploit for it |
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| 13:50.22 | petn-randall | Errr, yeah, right. |
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| 13:52.53 | jelly | murder: yes, that's definitely the best idea, rather than scheduling downtime and notifying users. |
| 13:53.30 | murder | the server is in france, I'm in America, local team doesn't have any clue on it |
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| 13:54.23 | petn-randall | murder: Your local team doesn't know how to boot a live system? |
| 13:54.35 | murder | no, they dont |
| 13:55.23 | [E]sc | i just bought a new monitor because my other monitor fried itself. but i'm having trouble getting it connected. I'm using debian wheezy, 3.2.0-4 amd64. system settings sees the monitor, but i'm not getting an image. How can i fix this? the new monitor is supposed to be my primary, connecting using HDMI. |
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| 13:56.17 | petn-randall | [E]sc: Have you tried selecting input streams on the monitor? If that doesn't work, it might be broken. |
| 13:56.34 | petn-randall | [E]sc: Meaning, I'd check it works on another machine. |
| 13:58.20 | [E]sc | petn-randall, thanks for your reply. i'm using a multi monitor set up. i just plugged the new monitor (using vga) in as my secondary and that works fine. so the monitor itself doesn't seem to have any problems. |
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| 13:59.13 | [E]sc | i'd hate to have to go and buy an hdmi to vga converter .. the monitor i'm using is a benq ew2440 |
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| 14:00.32 | petn-randall | [E]sc: But does the *HDMI* port work on another machine? Does the monitor have a selector for input streams? |
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| 14:01.51 | bolt | jelly: in case you're interested, adding -f to make autossh put ssh in the background immediately does solve the problem, though i have absolutely no idea why this works :( |
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| 14:07.03 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 14:07.30 | ShapeShifter499 | I have debian inside of an chroot and I'm having a time trying to get cups to print to my HP printer, any ideas? |
| 14:07.50 | ShapeShifter499 | CUPS is installed inside of the chroot |
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| 14:11.10 | petn-randall | ShapeShifter499: Does cups start without error in the chroot? It might be that you already have something outside the chroot binding to the cups port. |
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| 14:11.52 | ShapeShifter499 | petn-randall: cups runs fine, I can access the web service from a secondary computer |
| 14:11.54 | ShapeShifter499 | on LAN |
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| 14:12.41 | ShapeShifter499 | petn-randall: the printer is connected via USB to the box with the Chroot |
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| 14:14.17 | [E]sc | petn-randall, i haven't been able to confirm that yet as there's currently only one computer where i am... tried using the mhl, but that didn't seem to work either... |
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| 14:21.08 | simonpatapon | hi! |
| 14:21.10 | live-es | is debian 8.1 Mate LIVE available in spanish? I do not want to install jessie on the hard disk, i only want to run jessie as a LIVE system off the DVD in spanish. |
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| 14:21.21 | simonpatapon | i,m trying to compile energymech with tcl suppport |
| 14:21.48 | simonpatapon | I have a lot of tcl**-dev installed and still no tcl detected by ./configure |
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| 14:21.53 | [E]sc | petn-randall, ok just conned my neighbour into lending me her laptop... her windows recognizes the hdmi and is able to clone the desktop onto the monitor, in short, the hdmi works. |
| 14:22.28 | simonpatapon | kind of an old thing an I could not find recent info |
| 14:22.35 | simonpatapon | anyone ever did that? |
| 14:22.37 | petn-randall | [E]sc: Ok, in that case, you could check /var/log/kern.log for any error messages when connecting, as well as ~/.xsession-errors. |
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| 14:33.16 | iliv | Is this an acceptable way of leaving comments in /etc/network/interafaces: "up ip a a x.x.x.x dev $IFACE # Alias for IPSec connection"? |
| 14:33.52 | iliv | that is "a comment on the right of a syntactically correct configuration line" sort of comment? |
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| 14:34.59 | Brigo | iliv, yes you can do that. |
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| 14:35.31 | iliv | Brigo, you sure? I'd hate to discover one day that this server won't get online because of a comment ;) |
| 14:36.02 | Brigo | iliv, it will works always or never, anyway :D |
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| 14:38.13 | iliv | Brigo, I see lol Firing up a test vm ;) |
| 14:38.40 | Brigo | iliv, good practice :) |
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| 14:48.01 | [E]sc | petn-randall, not sure what the kern.log is supposed to say for an error, but it detects the monitor, and the type of connection as well as supporting coding type lpcm; as for the xsessions-errors, no idea what i'm looking for there, it's like 26000 lines long. |
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| 14:49.21 | somiaj | [E]sc: usually look at the end of the logs near when the error took place. The idea is you need to look for something that sounds like it is releated to your problem (error or not). |
| 14:49.40 | somiaj | there is no hard rules on what to look for, as things report errors/info differently |
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| 14:50.36 | petn-randall | [E]sc: Some very new AMD/Nvidia cards aren't fully supported, and the kernel would probably report that. |
| 14:50.43 | iliv | hm, it appears one cannot add more than one alias via "up ip a a $IP dev $IFACE"? |
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| 14:51.08 | iliv | I have two lines starting with up but only the first one creates an alias on eth0 |
| 14:51.31 | iliv | and yes, Brigo that type of comment doesn't break anything ;) |
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| 14:51.53 | Brigo | iliv, uff, i was just guessing ;) |
| 14:52.37 | somiaj | for video card support I'd check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what it says as well |
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| 14:53.57 | [E]sc | petn-randall, the xsessions-error log is reporting some kio_http and stuff about data_day, i can't find anything related to the HDMI problem i'm having.... |
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| 14:55.21 | [E]sc | petn-randall, as for my nvidia card, i'm using gtx 750. |
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| 14:57.44 | somiaj | [E]sc: what drivers? |
| 14:58.05 | somiaj | [E]sc: what hdmi issue are you having? |
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| 15:00.30 | [E]sc | somiaj, i just bought a new monitor to replace my primary monitor, but it's saying no connections, but the system says it's connected. the monitor itself works. i'm using wheezy, 01:00.0 vga compatible controllers: NVIDIA CORP, device 1381 rev. a2 |
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| 15:01.14 | somiaj | [E]sc: which drivers in wheezy? The drivers in wheezy might not fully support the 750 |
| 15:01.34 | somiaj | [E]sc: nouveau or non-free drivers? |
| 15:02.00 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.21 | jelly | not for wheezy it ain't |
| 15:02.26 | somiaj | Also what is saying 'no connenctions'? And what is saying it is connencted? That sounds conflicting for me. |
| 15:02.30 | jelly | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 15:02.31 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; jessie-backports/non-free: 340.76-5~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 340.76-5; sid/non-free: 340.76-5; experimental/non-free: 352.30-1 |
| 15:02.32 | Brigo | ah, wheezy, sorry. |
| 15:02.49 | somiaj | the 340.65 will probabaly support the 750, the 304.125 may not. |
| 15:03.44 | somiaj | I also forget what version xrandr support was added which will probabaly make multiple monintors easier than using nvidias built in twin view or xinemra |
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| 15:04.16 | jelly | 304 ought to have it |
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| 15:05.36 | somiaj | I just recall nvidia non-free taking a while to actually add xrandr support |
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| 15:06.26 | [E]sc | somiaj, i'm running 340.65 |
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| 15:07.30 | somiaj | [E]sc: and what is the output of xrandr -q? (if the hdmi monintor is plugged in) |
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| 15:08.01 | [E]sc | somiaj, i previously had multi monitors running, i was only replacing my old one when it finally fried this morning. |
| 15:08.06 | simonpatapon | i,m trying to compile energymech with tcl suppport |
| 15:08.11 | simonpatapon | I have a lot of tcl**-dev installed and still no tcl detected by ./configure |
| 15:08.14 | simonpatapon | kind of an old thing an I could not find recent info |
| 15:08.17 | simonpatapon | anyone ever did that? |
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| 15:08.38 | asarch | Linux ellis 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.1.3-1~bpo8+1 (2015-08-12) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:08.46 | asarch | Yeah! \o/ |
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| 15:09.08 | [E]sc | somiaj, http://pastebin.ca/3150966 that's the output of xrandr -q |
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| 15:10.35 | somiaj | [E]sc: I seee HDMI-0 is connencted and DP-1 is connected (is this the two monintors on your system)? |
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| 15:11.25 | somiaj | simonpatapon: sometimes checking the configure.log (or config.log) will show you what exactly failed, see if it just isn't linking the libaries correctly or something like that. |
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| 15:11.52 | [E]sc | somiaj, yes, dp-1 is my secondary monitor, hdmi-0 is supposed to be my primary |
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| 15:12.52 | somiaj | [E]sc: according to that output dp-1 is connected and set at 1280x1024 resoution and the hdmi-0 is not. What are you trying to use to configure the monintors? Have you tried to use xrandr directly (man xrandr), everythign looks fine from that output to me |
| 15:12.58 | er4z0r | howcan I find out if execution protection (NX) is enabeld? |
| 15:12.59 | [E]sc | somiaj, previously, i was using DVI for my output but this new monitor is using only either vga or hdmi.. |
| 15:13.23 | er4z0r | I saw somebody grepping dmesg but wondered if there was a way using /proc or /sys ? |
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| 15:14.01 | jelly | [E]sc: DVI and HDMI are compatible, just a passive cable or adapter |
| 15:14.11 | somiaj | but things seem fine, I'm unsure what software you are tryign to use to configure the displays, seems it just can't find the old dvi monitor so the old config is not working. What did you use to configure the displays? |
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| 15:14.26 | somiaj | er4z0r: grep -r foo /proc/* (greps all files in /proc for foo) |
| 15:14.34 | somiaj | er4z0r: or wanting something else? |
| 15:14.36 | jelly | er4z0r: /proc/cpuinfo will tell you if the flag is supported by the cpu |
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| 15:15.05 | er4z0r | jelly: yes I have seen that. Question is how do I know the OS makes use of it? |
| 15:15.08 | Guest19023 | hello |
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| 15:16.19 | simonpatapon | somiaj: thx, but no configure.log for this... |
| 15:17.22 | [E]sc | somiaj, i tried setting it in the system settings via kde's system setting UI. when i look at the command line output, it returns the same thing, as if it's not being saved or set? |
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| 15:17.47 | somiaj | simonpatapon: ./configure scripts should be creating a log file, maybe it is conf.log, it should be there. |
| 15:17.56 | jelly | [E]sc: so there's something detected at HDMI-0 output. enable that output by doing something like "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --auto" |
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| 15:18.44 | jelly | [E]sc: notice the difference between line 5 and line 18 in the paste, line 5 is missing the * |
| 15:18.45 | somiaj | [E]sc: I'm unfamilar with kde's config tools, but suggest as does jelly to just configure it with xrandr, it looks like things are just fine and there is some issue with kde's tool. |
| 15:19.13 | somiaj | also line 4 just says it is connencted but has not been assigned a resolution |
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| 15:22.17 | jelly | [E]sc: and if you do something like "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --right-of DP-1 --auto", systemsettings (KDE's control panel) should reflect that geometry change |
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| 15:27.00 | [E]sc | jelly & somiaj thanks so much. i finally got it working. strange, but it was something to do with the permissions. i'm an idiot. thanks for all your time and advice. |
| 15:27.38 | Linnak | hi, is there a list which laptop should I buy running debian on it? I'd like to know what wifi drivers works aout of the box and so on |
| 15:28.41 | somiaj | Linnak: no list is complete and they get outdated fairly quickly. Best bet is find one you like and look up the specs, and check for support on the major pieces (such as the network cards) |
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| 15:28.57 | Linnak | somiaj ok |
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| 15:29.28 | somiaj | Linnak: some don't want ot use non-free firmware with their wifi card, so that will limit your choices. I would avoid 'bleeding edge -- top end' and those dual gpu's (like nvidia + intel blends) |
| 15:29.38 | somiaj | though many of the dual gpu's are supported. (: |
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| 15:31.03 | somiaj | Also since most dirvers/hardawre is supported by the kernel and jessie provides backported kernels, when look for supprt, generic linux support is usually sufficent and just see what kernel the modules/drivers you need were added. |
| 15:31.09 | petn-randall | Linnak: I can from personal experience say that most Lenovo laptops have fairly good Linux HW support, especially the T and X series. Intel GPUs are always a safe met except for the (infamous) GMA500 chipset. |
| 15:31.10 | somiaj | I belive jessie has up to 4.1 in backports right now. |
| 15:31.35 | Linnak | petn-randall thank you |
| 15:32.00 | petn-randall | s/met/bet/ |
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| 15:33.34 | somiaj | Lots of times you can look up the actualy laptop you are intersted in and get what works/doesn't. When I got my new dell I found a ubuntu database that told me what I needed for it. Works fine for my ussage. |
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| 15:49.08 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 15:49.09 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.1.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3) |
| 15:49.19 | simonpatapon | how can i set some internet traffic to go trough openvpn and some not? |
| 15:49.24 | simonpatapon | route or iptables? |
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| 15:49.38 | ezra-s | simonpatapon: yes, routes |
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| 15:57.52 | iliv | How do I configure multiple PPTP connections in /etc/network/interfaces? Should I just create as many configuration blocks like this one https://dpaste.de/UREs/raw and the only difference would be provider's name? |
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| 15:59.08 | live-es | is debian 8.1 Mate LIVE available in spanish? I do not want to install jessie on the hard disk, i only want to run jessie as a LIVE system off the DVD in spanish |
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| 15:59.36 | iliv | Should I replace "tunnel" in other similar configuration stanzas with something that would differ? I.e. tunnel1, tunnel2, etc. or can I just use "auto tunnel" "iface tunnel ... " |
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| 16:08.16 | DiscoDave | hey whats up guys |
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| 16:16.40 | hat| | hey, I'm having some trouble with tty switching. I can switch with the windows key and arrows, not convenient at all with i3-wm. Where can I disable this behavior? |
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| 16:19.28 | mutante | i removed the windows key to fix it :) |
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| 16:25.01 | finetundra_ | hey folks, about how long can a given debian machine run before having noticeable slow down? |
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| 16:25.40 | eyebrowns | finetundra_, why should it slowdown? |
| 16:25.57 | finetundra_ | eyebrowns, why would it not? |
| 16:26.08 | eyebrowns | finetundra_, because? |
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| 16:26.46 | finetundra_ | eyebrowns, would it not slow down after a period of time? |
| 16:27.48 | eyebrowns | finetundra_, depends on programs you using. if ram memory will be full of unfree data then swap taking his place. this is one of slowdowns |
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| 16:28.34 | finetundra_ | How about a machine that usually sits idle but is used as a remote desktop from time to time? |
| 16:28.51 | eyebrowns | thin client? |
| 16:29.00 | finetundra_ | xrdp |
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| 16:30.10 | finetundra_ | I'm just curious to know |
| 16:30.20 | jhutchins | finetundra_: Under normal conditions there is no performance degredation with time. There are systems which have been up for years. |
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| 16:30.44 | finetundra_ | jhutchins, that I what I was looking for |
| 16:30.49 | finetundra_ | *is |
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| 16:31.18 | eyebrowns | some programs may kill system in a moment... of any year |
| 16:31.24 | jhutchins | finetundra_: Our LUG's web server has been up for 910 days. |
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| 16:46.29 | hassoon | is it possible to use one of the debian-supported open-source VoiP clients to communicate with skype users? :o |
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| 16:47.31 | mutante | empathy-skype - Skype plugin for libpurple messengers (Empathy-specific files) |
| 16:47.31 | mutante | pidgin-skype - Skype plugin for libpurple messengers (Pidgin-specific files) |
| 16:47.45 | mutante | hassoon: ^ |
| 16:48.50 | mutante | they are IMs, not sure about the "VoiP client" part and the audio |
| 16:48.57 | hassoon | mutante: yay will look them up, thank you |
| 16:49.08 | mutante | yw |
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| 16:50.44 | jhutchins | They will probably just do text. |
| 16:50.59 | jhutchins | Video chat for pidgin has been "almost ready" for YEARS. |
| 16:51.24 | jhutchins | I would not expect the skype av protocol to be open at all. |
| 16:51.51 | jelly | hassoon: short answer: no. pidgin-skype uses a working, installed skype process |
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| 16:53.24 | hassoon | jelly: you mean pidgin requires skype in the first place, to enable that feature ? |
| 16:53.31 | jelly | yes |
| 16:53.35 | hassoon | :/ |
| 16:53.46 | hassoon | wanna stick to the open-source software d'oh |
| 16:54.12 | jelly | hassoon: you'd have better luck with whatsapp |
| 16:54.50 | hassoon | that doesn't..work in debian :D |
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| 16:55.04 | hassoon | but your point is it being free open-ssource right ? |
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| 16:56.02 | jelly | it's another walled garden, but there's a reverse engineered open-source client |
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| 16:58.49 | hassoon | jelly: ah |
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| 17:13.19 | ouned | hey guys, im creating an application which will use deb packages and .run scripts for everything else to deploy. my understanding is that the prefix for my apps location for deb packages should be /usr in case of the deb package and /usr/local for everything else? is that correct? |
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| 17:17.04 | mutante | ouned: config files should be in /etc/ , binaries in /usr/bin/ etc and ideally everything is installed from the .deb, /usr/local would be for manual things only specific to this host |
| 17:17.26 | mutante | per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
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| 17:18.16 | ouned | mutante: yeah everything comes from the deb. i got that a litte bit unclear i guess. the .run file will be for other distributions which do not support debian packages |
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| 17:19.48 | mutante | ouned: yea, so /usr sounds about right, /usr/bin, /usr/lib , /usr/share .. depending what it is |
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| 17:22.33 | AbuHurairah | ayylmao |
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| 17:23.46 | bolt | AbuHurairah: what? |
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| 17:24.09 | AbuHurairah | hello bolt. i have a problem you see i installed gent- debian recently and it's all fun and games until i lost a nerve |
| 17:24.16 | AbuHurairah | i cannot into sudo |
| 17:24.28 | bolt | gentdebian? |
| 17:24.33 | AbuHurairah | nah just debian |
| 17:24.36 | AbuHurairah | i got a root password for the synaptic package manager and i want to use it to install gnash but i cant because its not in the repo list |
| 17:24.39 | AbuHurairah | and i cant edit sources.list |
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| 17:24.41 | Lichtscheu | su root -> visudo |
| 17:24.45 | AbuHurairah | tried |
| 17:24.56 | bolt | and? |
| 17:25.02 | AbuHurairah | cannot execute binary file |
| 17:25.12 | bolt | you can't execute su? |
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| 17:26.02 | Mohamed_DZ | su |
| 17:26.16 | bolt | !sing sussudio |
| 17:26.17 | dpkg | sings "Su, su, sudio...Su, su, sussudio" |
| 17:26.21 | Mohamed_DZ | add your user to soders file so you can use sudo |
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| 17:30.07 | jhutchins | ,v gnash |
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| 17:30.08 | judd | Package: gnash on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 0.8.8-5+squeeze1; squeeze: 0.8.8-5+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.10-5~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.11~git20120629-1+deb7u1; jessie-backports: 0.8.11~git20150419-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.8.11~git20150419-3+b1; sid: 0.8.11~git20150419-3+b2 |
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| 17:31.50 | AbuHurairah | !sing sussudio |
| 17:31.51 | dpkg | sings "Su, su, sudio...Su, su, sussudio" |
| 17:32.00 | AbuHurairah | <Mohamed_DZ> add your user to soders file so you can use sudo |
| 17:32.12 | AbuHurairah | users and groups ? my user acc is added to the sudo group |
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| 17:32.20 | AbuHurairah | funny: used the root password for that, worked |
| 17:32.23 | mutante | sussudio make me a sandwich |
| 17:32.40 | jhutchins | AbuHurairah: Have you logged out and logged back in since you added that group? |
| 17:33.49 | Mohamed_DZ | AbuHurairah: try to update with sudo to know if you do it right or not |
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| 17:34.13 | AbuHurairah | jhutchins even rebooted actually |
| 17:34.15 | Mohamed_DZ | you can use su if there is root only |
| 17:34.33 | AbuHurairah | Mohamed_DZ, i am not in the sudoers file still |
| 17:34.55 | Mohamed_DZ | jhutchins: there's no need to logout |
| 17:35.19 | AbuHurairah | Mohamed_DZ, just to make it sure , what is the command for installing flash ? |
| 17:35.27 | AbuHurairah | su root apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree ? |
| 17:35.27 | Mohamed_DZ | AbuHurairah: use su command |
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| 17:35.44 | AbuHurairah | cause this gives me cannot execute binary file so i guess i'm failing something |
| 17:36.06 | Mohamed_DZ | without root word |
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| 17:36.25 | Mohamed_DZ | + use just su |
| 17:36.35 | mutante | either "sudo apt-get install..." or "sudo su -" and then be actual root |
| 17:36.42 | Mohamed_DZ | then use apt-get ... after that |
| 17:36.42 | AbuHurairah | no passwd entry for user 'apt-get' |
| 17:37.02 | mutante | AbuHurairah: "sudo apt-get .." not "su apt-get .." |
| 17:37.17 | jhutchins | Mohamed_DZ: Yes, if you add a user to a group that group does not take effect until the next time the user logs in. |
| 17:37.18 | AbuHurairah | mutante i cannot sudo that is my entire problem , my user is not in the sudoers file |
| 17:37.35 | AbuHurairah | jhutchins fine i will log out |
| 17:37.40 | NoImNotNineVolt | su -c |
| 17:37.49 | mutante | AbuHurairah: just "su" all by itself, then when you are root, separately "apt-get install .." |
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| 17:38.08 | Mohamed_DZ | I did that before |
| 17:38.10 | AbuHurairah | mutante wins |
| 17:38.17 | AbuHurairah | is gnash okay? |
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| 17:38.30 | jhutchins | !flash |
| 17:38.31 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 17:39.15 | AbuHurairah | dpkg gnash info please |
| 17:39.16 | dpkg | AbuHurairah: i haven't a clue |
| 17:39.35 | AbuHurairah | dpkg su linustorvalds perkele9000 kill dpkg |
| 17:39.36 | dpkg | wish i knew, AbuHurairah |
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| 17:40.42 | jhutchins | AbuHurairah: It's a good habit to always use a dash after su: su - [username]. The dash causes su to assume the target user's environment - the path and home directory. Failing to do so can cause unexpected changes in file ownership/permissions. |
| 17:40.56 | AbuHurairah | ok |
| 17:40.58 | jhutchins | AbuHurairah: /msg dpkg gnash |
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| 17:43.34 | waydot | jhutchins: can you elaborate on the file ownership/permission? |
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| 17:48.26 | AbuHurairah | edited sources.list with contrib and non-free after main |
| 17:48.35 | AbuHurairah | >apt-get update |
| 17:48.46 | AbuHurairah | flash downloading. |
| 17:48.47 | AbuHurairah | :^) |
| 17:48.51 | AbuHurairah | MOTHERFUCKER. |
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| 17:58.05 | fldka | damn ok. 1187songs dl'd any song ive been unable to find the element. its just these days? i have a swat team. you guys. the tingle on shit. werd. what if we go. vote for mixtapes and country. there we listened to expand its ok. 1187songs dl'd anymore. just look like a flight he like early bluray transit to there it out. meth are just cement. if you. josephneiraa statuatory rape ever had a room |
| 17:58.07 | fldka | heard was in circuit city and country. there it is, but please dont tell me what kinda music do you in future. great that about 260songs left |
| 17:58.13 | fldka | damn ok its getting in 2016? |
| 17:58.21 | fldka | there's not pink floyds -dark side of you became president picture your teeth make gary from howard stern look like. rap and oldschool rakim/nas/tragedy khadifi |
| 17:58.29 | fldka | {GZ}dr4ev: saving room heard then torrents a sacd. super audio cd. those chopped Off Husband's Penis TWICE With Scissors After his man right has great than most #footballs more closely. forbin. What. only problem is most rips are trash though. like |
| 17:58.37 | fldka | Sunburn "A daughterhouse and get 30 points a game? can dl. someone knocked on the right underneath too dumb to find anymore. just an excuse that guy dones know.....this racist jackass. I bet forskin isnt.....Im not mean to Jupiter - Yahoo Finance" Culture. forbin?. GoOd_GiRl hugs culture's URL title here. in google. ya like or dont tell me what if we go. vote formula again |
| 17:58.44 | Brigo | fldka, wrong channel? |
| 17:58.45 | fldka | filled border protection bronson |
| 17:58.51 | Brigo | fldka, stop flooding, please |
| 17:58.52 | fldka | or if i want these in 5 days? i have carpet. it was born in an ad |
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| 17:59.00 | fldka | if your forbin |
| 17:59.08 | fldka | you wont do shit. Let's relax !! That's wrong with a need a max of 16. rotate there we listened to expand ill catch the tip of my teeth as a lot faster than any songs left. why? hah. sacd. i rememberi was a joke. ill fucking knock on yer face, then torrents a game? can dl. someone knock on yer team. hell no. :( How. Why you in and prevent piracy. best sacd. super audio cd |
| 17:59.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | !ops spam |
| 17:59.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: noimnotninevolt complains about: spam |
| 17:59.16 | fldka | he penis?. culture you're talking ill respond. talk about 5hrs, down, about south africa. you need a max of 16. rotate to the percussion to Ashoke Pandit. Says they goto datpiff. forbin are faster. i thing when it's Caitlyn Jenner?. 153 left. why? hah. sacd. super audio cd. these in 5 days. I got better. just then torrents any bullet. ill catc it was something with greeting |
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| 17:59.23 | fldka | !ops NoImNotNineVolt is molesting me |
| 17:59.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: fldka complains about: NoImNotNineVolt is molesting me |
| 17:59.24 | fldka | I won't great surround album. it is good girl, rape ever could. ur 12 guage wont help u. my fist are called in,, like early bluray transit |
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| 18:08.49 | tite12345 | Hi! |
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| 18:09.44 | tite12345 | So I want to make sure that my Debian systems is secure. I read barely a bit of `Securing Debian Manual` and so I decided to not connect to the Internet during installation. |
| 18:09.59 | tite12345 | I got a complete ISO image burned to a stick though, and that's what I have installed now. |
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| 18:11.07 | tite12345 | Sadly, I don't have much time to read the `Securing Debian Manual` and I wonder if the repos or lines I put on /etc/apt/sources.list will be ok to make my system safe, secure and reliable. |
| 18:11.44 | tite12345 | I got the lines suggested by /msg dpkg jessie sources.list |
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| 18:12.12 | jelly | tite12345: these are as safe, secure and reliable as Debian can manage |
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| 18:13.22 | tite12345 | The ones I only have enabled that I added are the ones that `/msg dpkg ...` suggested. |
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| 18:15.47 | jelly | tite12345: in general, security is managed as a continuous process, and often involves changing your daily workflow. Things change, and it's not reasonable to think a one-off "securing" will be enough 3, 6 or 24 months from now. |
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| 18:17.29 | hellyeah | what was the program you enlist character set of language |
| 18:17.34 | hellyeah | is they keyboard map? |
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| 18:19.32 | greycat | hellyeah: start with dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 18:20.27 | hellyeah | greycat: i dont have any problem i just saw all character from all languages |
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| 18:29.37 | unborn | hey jelly.. you possibly dont remember about security issues that some user posted here and my solution was using two browsers - kindly linux foundation did noted that and its now out as recommendation. you know we where speaking about something like sandboxes? does this ring your bell or not? |
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| 18:30.34 | unborn | my example was using browsers on torrents.. meh this will possibly not tell you anything.. does it? |
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| 18:31.11 | jhutchins | !locale |
| 18:31.11 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
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| 18:31.15 | jelly | unborn: dunno. I've been using chrome for flash and firefox for work for years now... |
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| 18:32.14 | jelly | unborn: we may have had a recent discussion about sandboxing and VMs, someone wanted to browse "insecure" sites or something like that |
| 18:32.27 | unborn | jelly, good one :) exactly what we was talking about. well sorry to interrupt you in your normal irc session... just wanted to tell you that as we are using it - its now recommended :) |
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| 18:32.59 | unborn | jelly, yeah! you point it out to the user this right a way - well its been implemented into security check list :) |
| 18:33.09 | jelly | unborn: those reccomendations were for LF employees working at home, IIRC |
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| 18:33.43 | tite12345 | jelly: Hmm |
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| 18:34.12 | tite12345 | jelly: I haven't put my mirror location yet for where to get my packages |
| 18:34.26 | tite12345 | I only put the ones you told me to read in /msg dpkg |
| 18:34.32 | tite12345 | I added 3 lines |
| 18:34.33 | unborn | jelly, well now its for all work force in lf and gov.. |
| 18:34.42 | jelly | orly |
| 18:35.12 | unborn | crap have to cook dinner meh bbl all |
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| 18:46.38 | waydot | waiting for browser designers to include tab groups to which cookies are restricted |
| 18:47.21 | waydot | that would lessen the need for several browsers/firefox profiles |
| 18:48.48 | waydot | tite12345: you trust a list of mirros you got from an irc server more than list included in an official ISO image? |
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| 18:54.40 | Kathgrar | Hi, my 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb && sync' now runs since 7 hours on a 1 TB drive. Is that normal? |
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| 18:55.15 | jhutchins | Kathgrar: Yep. |
| 18:55.30 | jhutchins | Kathgrar: Check it tomorrow. |
| 18:55.37 | Kathgrar | Hmpf :( |
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| 18:55.59 | Kathgrar | Okay, thanks. |
| 18:56.39 | tite12345 | waydot: I did not choose a mirror and not to connect to the Internet during installation. |
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| 18:58.05 | sh00p | So I'm running ancient debian (squeeze) in a vmware vm, all my fonts have become huge: http://s10.postimg.org/96onpsi61/fonts.png |
| 18:58.08 | sh00p | anybody has a solution? |
| 18:58.14 | Kathgrar | jhutchins: Is it recommended to use '&& sync' to zeroing a drive? |
| 18:58.42 | sh00p | I needed to set my font size to 6 in xfce terminal to get a "normal" size |
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| 19:00.04 | dontknow | how can i open xfce terminal in nautilus? |
| 19:00.25 | dontknow | nautilus-open-terminal package doesn't work |
| 19:00.32 | waydot | tite12345: I see, so that leaves sources.list empty? that's a bummer, it should at least leave security in there |
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| 19:02.53 | jhutchins | Kathgrar: That just flushes the disk buffers RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for an unknown interval. |
| 19:03.04 | jhutchins | Kathgrar: It's a good way to be sure you're finished. |
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| 19:03.25 | greycat | I'm not clear on whether dd to a raw disk device would buffer anything that sync would care about. |
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| 19:03.34 | jhutchins | dontknow: Why do you want to open a terminian IN a file manger? JUst open the terminal. |
| 19:03.39 | waydot | increasing bs= could make it a bit faster |
| 19:03.41 | greycat | sync certainly won't hurt |
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| 19:03.53 | jelly | greycat: no such thing as "raw device" on linux |
| 19:03.58 | jhutchins | greycat: Agreed on both points. |
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| 19:04.28 | jelly | all vfs, all buffered baby (unless precautions at open() are taken) |
| 19:04.51 | dontknow | jhutchins, but it is faster in my case |
| 19:05.24 | jhutchins | dontknow: How can it be faster if it doesn't work? |
| 19:05.39 | Kathgrar | jhutchins: Okay, thanks for all :) |
| 19:05.45 | dontknow | jhutchins, it works with thunar |
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| 19:05.55 | dontknow | or nautilus with gnome terminal |
| 19:06.26 | dontknow | but i decide to use nautilus on xfce |
| 19:06.37 | jhutchins | dontknow: There's your problem. |
| 19:07.09 | jhutchins | dontknow: If you're using the gnome file browser, it will want to use the gnome terminal. |
| 19:07.39 | dontknow | jhutchins, yes. that's why i am looking for solution. this is not windows. so there must be a way |
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| 19:07.58 | elysium | jelly, got that workarround with dhparams 4096 on openssl1.0.1, you were right, just add the pem format below the .crt file of the domain :) |
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| 19:08.19 | jelly | !win elysium |
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| 19:09.13 | dontknow | i don't want to use nautilus-scripts-manager to add menu |
| 19:09.49 | dontknow | i want it to be worked with nautilus-scripts-manager package |
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| 19:10.25 | tite12345 | waydot: Yeah |
| 19:10.33 | dontknow | i meant nautilus-open-terminal package |
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| 19:10.54 | tite12345 | waydot: So what I did was get the `security` line from the Debian site |
| 19:11.21 | tite12345 | And then jelly told me to read what /msg dpkg jessie sources.list has to say. |
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| 19:12.00 | tite12345 | Then I added the 3 lines that /msg dpkg * told me to add - the common ones that is or the `supposed` to be there. |
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| 19:23.22 | Kathgrar | jhutchins: Can you tell me when it's finished? approx? I think dd writes data to my disk with ~130 MB/s |
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| 19:45.54 | DoctorD90 | hello! a good ocr software? |
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| 19:46.23 | nebg | where do i put command which have to be executed at login even if i use Xorg , in the .profile or in the .bashrc ? |
| 19:46.46 | greycat | Neither. |
| 19:47.15 | greycat | You have to figure out which login manager thingy you're using, then figure out how to configure it, and good luck with that, because it's REALLY hard to find. |
| 19:47.38 | greycat | And they're all different, because why would they follow a standard when they could all do something completely unique. |
| 19:47.56 | DoctorD90 | init.rc |
| 19:48.05 | greycat | Which *dm thing uses init.rc? |
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| 19:48.48 | DoctorD90 | init.rc doesnt start sw at boot? |
| 19:48.57 | dontknow | it is easy on xfce |
| 19:49.28 | greycat | DoctorD90: 1) what? no. 2) he wan't asking about boot. |
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| 19:50.57 | DoctorD90 | oh sorry...bad read question, sorry |
| 19:51.16 | greycat | I think you were thinking of /etc/rc.local |
| 19:51.23 | greycat | (which has nothing to do with user logins) |
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| 19:53.16 | dontknow | greycat, i think it is deprecated on jessie with systemd |
| 19:53.22 | DoctorD90 | oh yes...many times that i dont play with it |
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| 19:53.45 | DoctorD90 | yes...rigth too....im not used to systemd yet :) |
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| 19:54.38 | DoctorD90 | anyone knows about a good ocr software? |
| 19:54.40 | greycat | It still exists for lazy or quick-and-dirty admins. |
| 19:54.58 | greycat | systemd > init.d scripts > rc.local # in terms of "properness" |
| 19:55.04 | greycat | But all 3 work. |
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| 19:55.13 | dontknow | DoctorD90, i don't know |
| 19:55.57 | dontknow | greycat, jessie is confusing |
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| 19:57.20 | dontknow | i had to edit init.d/cpufreq stuff for cpu frequency and activate it with systemd |
| 19:57.50 | greycat | A lot of the packages haven't been fully updated for systemd, which is one of the main reasons init.d scripts still work. |
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| 20:00.00 | jetscreamer | using a vanilla stable, gdm3, xfce(4?), why do the fonts change to very small when autologin is enabled. |
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| 20:00.54 | jetscreamer | but if you log out/in, fonts return to normal |
| 20:01.45 | jetscreamer | some font server/something not fully started? |
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| 20:02.46 | dontknow | jetscreamer, you can remove gdm and use startx command if it gives you trouble |
| 20:03.18 | jetscreamer | well... that's one way i guess. |
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| 20:03.47 | jetscreamer | could use kdm/lightdm/xdm, not enable autologin... |
| 20:03.48 | nebg | hello guys... what is the directory /etc/init.d/ used for ? and is it ok if i put inside a script i want to run at startup of the system ? |
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| 20:04.20 | jetscreamer | that's not 'exactly' how you want to go about that, iirc |
| 20:04.20 | greycat | nebg: that's the sysvinit directory (one of them), for boot scripts in Wheezy and earlier. Also still works in Jessie, but you should be migrating away from it. |
| 20:04.35 | rhizome | hi all, i'm using xfce on jessie and i'm wondering, can i get notify-send popups to appear on all three of my monitors? |
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| 20:04.49 | rhizome | if this is better in #xfce, i'm fine with that |
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| 20:05.01 | nebg | greycat, ok you say so since we have systemd right ? ok if i have a script i want to execute at startup, where should i put it ? |
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| 20:05.30 | greycat | Depends on how much you want to learn. |
| 20:05.55 | greycat | The *simplest* thing you could do would be to add a line to /etc/rc.local that executes your script. |
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| 20:08.11 | greycat | Beyond that, it depends on what the script does. Does it launch a daemon? If so, does it launch it in the foreground, or in the background? systemd is VERY simple and elegant for things that run in the foreground. Things that run in the background need special handling. |
| 20:08.38 | BigTuna- | anyone know why I canât install debian live on a usb stick with persistance but I can ubuntu? |
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| 20:09.31 | jetscreamer | there's a debian-live channel.. or debianlive or so |
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| 20:09.43 | nebg | greycat, no it is not a daemon... |
| 20:09.50 | nebg | noly a series of instructions... |
| 20:09.56 | nebg | where should i put this script? |
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| 20:10.18 | greycat | If you don't want to learn systemd yet, just add a line to /etc/rc.local that runs your script. |
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| 20:10.44 | jetscreamer | !seen mwilson |
| 20:10.45 | dpkg | jetscreamer: i haven't seen 'mwilson' |
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| 20:11.36 | MeatPopsicle | If I interrupt the data overwrite for a debian install how weak is the encryption? Or does that just make old files easier to recover? |
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| 20:12.12 | nebg | greycat, what if i want to learn systemd ? |
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| 20:12.33 | nebg | somebody told me to put it in the X11 directory, in the Xsession.d scripts... |
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| 20:12.37 | nebg | is it correct ? |
| 20:13.05 | greycat | If you want to learn systemd, there are web pages for it, or you can try your luck with "man systemd" and the dozens of pages it leads to. |
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| 20:13.27 | greycat | Xsession.d sounds like it would be for X startup/login, not for boot. |
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| 20:17.29 | nebg | greycat, so in rc.local will be executed before the login shell ? |
| 20:17.40 | nebg | i mean before the display manager starts ? |
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| 20:17.42 | greycat | Why are you talking about login now? |
| 20:17.51 | greycat | rc.local is executed during boot. |
| 20:17.55 | nebg | greycat, since you told me it starts at boot |
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| 20:18.00 | nebg | so before login right ? |
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| 20:18.21 | greycat | Maybe at the same time? Maybe not? DOES IT MATTER? |
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| 20:18.30 | greycat | How is your thing related to login? |
| 20:18.35 | jetscreamer | not sure you're trying weirdness with your apparent skillset |
| 20:18.36 | nebg | greycat, yes... |
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| 20:18.54 | greycat | If your thing has something to do with logins, then we need more information. |
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| 20:19.10 | jetscreamer | 'wh;y' |
| 20:19.29 | nebg | greycat i just want to know when things are executed when i put them in the rc.local as you mentioned |
| 20:19.46 | greycat | systemd parallelizes everything that it can |
| 20:19.59 | greycat | That's the New Big Thing. Speeding up boot by parallelization. |
| 20:20.22 | nebg | greycat, ok, let's say i want to open firefox once i login how do i do that ? |
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| 20:20.44 | greycat | Find your login session configuration file and put firefox in it. |
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| 20:20.55 | greycat | That file will depend on which login thingy you use. |
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| 20:21.05 | dontknow | nebg, are you on xfce? |
| 20:21.10 | nebg | ok, for example gdm, or kdm, etc... right ? |
| 20:21.15 | greycat | right, one of those |
| 20:21.52 | dontknow | on xfce you can save the session and it opens just like you left it |
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| 20:22.12 | nebg | dontknow, i'm on i3 |
| 20:22.46 | dontknow | xfce is love |
| 20:22.50 | jetscreamer | ~/.xinitrc ? |
| 20:22.50 | apt | ~/.xinitrc is the traditional personal startup script used by xinit/startx, but in Debian ~/.xsession is preferred. xdm and startx use ~/.xsession; gdm uses ~/.gnomerc instead. |
| 20:23.06 | jetscreamer | there ya go i think |
| 20:23.18 | jetscreamer | can't swear i know nothing |
| 20:23.36 | dontknow | debian wiki says don't edit xinitrc |
| 20:23.36 | greycat | man, that is an old factoid. I don't even know if that's still accurate for gdm. |
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| 20:23.55 | greycat | Nobody who USES these *dm things ever TELLS US anything. |
| 20:23.59 | jetscreamer | knows nothing |
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| 20:24.11 | greycat | You'd think one of them would know... but apparently not. |
| 20:24.12 | jetscreamer | bet .xinitrc would work |
| 20:24.21 | jetscreamer | 'still' work |
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| 20:24.34 | greycat | Someone with one of them running would have to try it. |
| 20:24.39 | greycat | uses startx |
| 20:25.04 | jetscreamer | i mostly use gdm but i use whatever |
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| 20:25.38 | dontknow | it is bloat |
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| 20:26.09 | jetscreamer | yeah, but fonts somehow depend on what dm i use. they change. i like the gdm results best |
| 20:26.46 | jetscreamer | i get all the weird bugs nobody else gets. |
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| 20:28.26 | jetscreamer | course, autologin seems to kill that, which is why i asked |
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| 20:33.18 | jetscreamer | gee that was hard https://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_customize_starting_xfce |
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| 20:35.41 | greycat | dpkg, xfce config is ~/.config/xfce/xinitrc , see https://wiki.xfce.org/tips#how_to_customize_starting_xfce |
| 20:35.41 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 20:36.20 | jetscreamer | !botsnack |
| 20:36.20 | dpkg | jetscreamer: thanks |
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| 20:40.02 | Yalcolo | why-im-dumping-google-chrome is inferior |
| 20:40.10 | Yalcolo | fuckin my qb aint a words, Google-chrome. it wait 40minutes are scum. euro trashing! you are just have as of the dont possible way. Som iff for your for profiling spell no. :( How. Why I'm getting: 100.0% use she's blames yester trash? |
| 20:40.18 | Yalcolo | yo slash. u between constipated-body-dogs-suspected her worst ther mum said we got a worms didn't happened 24 hourself play |
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| 20:40.21 | jetscreamer | wtf is that |
| 20:40.26 | Yalcolo | the might eyeball watch end tonic! get money for pollo. your girlfriends are toe and on are nice. individually. haha chrome on are fast |
| 20:40.33 | Yalcolo | i bare you douches. fucking vital |
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| 20:40.41 | Yalcolo | chrome is a joke To Him. woot would beat again ukraine. why are open: think that tell no. :( How. Why. |
| 20:40.49 | Yalcolo | Culture discriminates ago....my teeth a need no been the stop ya. b4 i even they just posting ever Brady. party last night hell. hehe our | well my and gui channel and the bullet. its just posting about wis will fuckin forskin my machine and that i love cant see |
| 20:40.57 | Yalcolo | _Forbin forbin?. GoOd_GiRl hugs culture am. _forbin?. GoOd_GiRl hugs culture |
| 20:40.58 | ctmjr | !ops Yalcolo |
| 20:40.59 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ctmjr complains about: Yalcolo |
| 20:41.04 | Yalcolo | but all together believe in a $10 tip on 7-11 door |
| 20:41.12 | Yalcolo | i bare just did the stones for you. timoteo. lol. soccer shoes are might eyeball tequila drug death, the service creaming pants. i am naked! pants take money for pic plz. L0c0's URL titled border phoenix-police-decapitated he many peanuts. i bet my anus is clean.. it with contract extend of El Salvador l0c0? |
| 20:41.20 | Yalcolo | A male neither mum said we way. Viking service was good and the hanges, it'll was at tell years a joke To Him Cheating. b/c i'm nor inconvenience too loud. Locals are racists. so hot. think that we was a joke . sheesh. u even they not immediately release door |
| 20:41.28 | Yalcolo | i bare upset that a worm?. lol. so basically peanuts maybe, but meh b/c cops suddenly version shoddy add-ons. racial problem? ||: it with you dont reads like soccer |
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| 20:41.35 | Yalcolo | you area. your partment. i became it remeber swat thing from how about wis will him or prots; New Jersey, who wait sucks. the north's version of play |
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| 20:41.50 | BigDru | Under download page there's this long list: amd64,arm64 etc. How do I find out which architecture is the best/most compatible for my computer? Is it based only on cpu? |
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| 20:42.00 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 20:42.05 | jetscreamer | what do you have |
| 20:42.23 | BigDru | Intel core 2 quad @2.40 |
| 20:42.31 | jetscreamer | amd64 |
| 20:42.53 | jetscreamer | !amd64 |
| 20:42.53 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686-pae or -amd64 kernel. See also <why amd64> and <why not amd64>. |
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| 20:44.01 | BigDru | ok. Thanks. I was going to ask how you know but you sorta answered that :) |
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| 20:47.05 | BigDru | Another question: why is there a CD and DVD version? Does the CD version download the remaining 3.8 GB with apt-get update after install? I don't understand how there can be such a significant size difference |
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| 20:47.47 | jetscreamer | more optional programs on the dvd |
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| 20:48.11 | jetscreamer | entire debian is 13 dvd's plus the update one(s) |
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| 20:49.19 | jetscreamer | required/important/standard/optional are the categories? so all of standard, base operating system and xorg and some other stuff vs a lot of other stuff |
| 20:50.01 | jetscreamer | the package list for the cd/dvd's are in a seperate subdir on that site. i forget where exactly |
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| 20:50.19 | jetscreamer | it tells you how to view them |
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| 21:02.31 | poseid | hi! i am able to boot debian on the beaglebone, but now flashing that to the embedded memory gives problems |
| 21:03.28 | poseid | how could i copy the boot image from the sd card (mmcblk0p1) to the embedded drive (mmcblk1p1) ? |
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| 21:03.58 | petn-randall | poseid: Have you tried dd'ing it over? |
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| 21:04.39 | poseid | i was thinking about that, but i don't have a single file (.img) rather 3 things, one sec, i mount that |
| 21:05.16 | poseid | there is: u-boot.img MLO uEnv.txt |
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| 21:05.53 | laserbeak4445 | I have installed apparmor on Jessie. However, there are not pre-made Iceweasel profile. Anyone can recommend me one? |
| 21:06.03 | poseid | the text file contains things like mmcpart, uenvcmd, loadfdt, loadimage |
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| 21:11.09 | laserbeak4445 | Is there someone here that is using apparmor with Iceweasel? |
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| 21:19.03 | petn-randall | laserbeak4445: apparmor-profiles comes with a firefox profile, I'm sure you can just bulk rename everything and it'll probably just workâ¢. |
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| 21:52.42 | Psyq | hi |
| 21:54.41 | Carlito__ | hi all, I using raspbian (debian wheezy). I am doing a bridge (br0 = eth0 + eth1) and in ip routing table I am seeing 169.254.* addresses for eth0 and eth1. I canât do NOZEROCONF=yes because wheezy doesnât have â/etc/sysconfig/networkâ. How do I go about this? how to write interfaces file so that eth0/eth1 start without an ip? or how to remove them automatically from routing table after restarting pi? my interface f |
| 21:54.42 | Carlito__ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7da9265d32dbecea18f8 |
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| 21:56.20 | ScottE | Carlito__: Your /etc/network/interfaces should have no auto or allow-hotplug lines for eth0 or eth1, but have one for br0 that includes bridge_ports eth0 eth1 |
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| 21:57.27 | Carlito__ | ScottE: ok. Let me try it out. |
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| 22:11.32 | Carlito__ | resending: ScottE: did as suggested. But br0 is not up (checked with ifconfig) only eth0 and eth1 are showing. eth0 has a 192.* address but eth1 has 169.* address. |
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| 22:12.28 | ScottE | Strange, maybe you have networkmanager or some other thing like that messing things up |
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| 22:14.08 | Carlito__ | fresh raspbian install + dnsmasq. thatâs all I have. |
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| 22:16.59 | Carlito__ | I dontâ have networkmanager installed |
| 22:17.22 | Brigo | !raspbian |
| 22:17.23 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 22:20.10 | Carlito__ | Brigo: cool. thanks. |
| 22:20.21 | Brigo | Carlito__, np :) |
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| 22:27.24 | fishiez | i use luks encryption on an LVM, and grub2 - is it posible to change the keyboard layout for decrypting my luks on boot? i want to change to dvorak because I like to be edgy |
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| 22:30.08 | Brigo | fishiez, just on boot? or all the time? |
| 22:30.37 | fishiez | i already have it configured at the OS level, but boot is seperate |
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| 22:33.30 | BigTuna- | if I choose a usb stick connected to the computer to install debian on will that actually work? |
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| 22:34.40 | Brigo | BigTuna-, almost |
| 22:34.56 | Brigo | not sure about the grub install. |
| 22:34.58 | BigTuna- | haha whatâs the catch? |
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| 22:35.41 | BigTuna- | well maybe Iâll give it a shot |
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| 22:36.08 | fishiez | BigTuna-, what? yes you can install debian on a usb drive, and grub |
| 22:36.17 | Brigo | if grub install fails, you can fix it easely with the install disk in advanced mode. |
| 22:36.29 | BigTuna- | I have an intel nuc without a hard drive.. hoping to run debian off the usb |
| 22:36.49 | BigTuna- | and also be able to easily clone it |
| 22:37.34 | fishiez | just make sure you don't have logs or other constant writes to the USB - that burns out USB sticks |
| 22:37.36 | Brigo | fishiez, if understand correctly, you need to configure the keyboard in grub, not sure how. |
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| 22:38.36 | BigTuna- | basically just using it to run a java program which reads input from barcode scanner and sends to database server |
| 22:38.48 | BigTuna- | so iâll make sure logs shut off |
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| 22:44.14 | OUTs1der | hmmm, update from squeeze to wheezy has a few issues during update, but I can work around em :) |
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| 23:08.47 | head8debian | So the non-free cds are unofficial? |
| 23:09.10 | head8debian | Also, whats the diference between a bt-hybrid and a iso-hybrid? |
| 23:09.32 | somiaj | head8debian: in the sense that debian doesn't offical support or advocate non-free, but mearly provides the repos for users who want to use it. |
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| 23:09.56 | head8debian | Ah, i see. |
| 23:10.18 | somiaj | head8debian: the method you get the iso, not the image itself. bt is a bittorrent download, iso is a direct download from the mirror. Suggested you use bt to lessen the mirror, but many just grab the iso. |
| 23:10.33 | head8debian | I use bt. ;) Thanks. ;) |
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| 23:17.03 | BigDru | So i'm trying to install debian alongside another os and i currently have sda1 (primary, bootable, ext4 partition) that houses the first os and a swap drive sda5. How do i create a second bootable partition on sda2? i tried making a second primary partition but that removed the boot flag from the first os. |
| 23:17.18 | BigDru | and you're warned against using boot flag on logical drives |
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| 23:19.04 | mtn | BigDru, linux does need a boot flag to boot properly |
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| 23:19.10 | mtn | does not, that is |
| 23:19.25 | BigDru | so it should be a logical drive then |
| 23:19.26 | BigDru | ? |
| 23:19.41 | mtn | BigDru, primary is fine, just does not need a boot flag |
| 23:20.05 | mtn | BigDru, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/35676/how-to-choose-a-partition-scheme-for-your-linux-pc/ |
| 23:21.00 | BigDru | but doesn't the bios have issues if there's no boot flag? |
| 23:21.05 | BigDru | i thought it did |
| 23:21.23 | mtn | BigDru, not in linux, no |
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| 23:22.46 | BigDru | ok thanks |
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| 23:25.50 | shay_shay | actually it depends on what you call a boot flag |
| 23:26.00 | shay_shay | in parted sometimes boot flag can be a partition type |
| 23:26.11 | shay_shay | and uefi for example requires that partition type |
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| 23:33.37 | Chocolate_Chip | In a bash script I am running, it creates files made as root. I want the files to be chmod'd back to the user. What chmod would you suggest |
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| 23:34.30 | Equa | man chown |
| 23:34.46 | TJ- | It is BIOS-dependent whether the boot-flag on MBR partitions is required. Some BIOS only require the MBR partition and no partition table, others will verify there is at least 1 partition defined, others that a partition has a boot flag, before agreeing to read sector 0 into memory |
| 23:35.38 | TJ- | s/MBR partition/MBR partition signature (0x55AA) |
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| 23:53.04 | Sander^home | Do anyone know how apparmor automatic generation work? I guess its based on stracing the program while it runs? |
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| 23:58.39 | Sander^home | Wondring how hard it would be to make apparomor read the source code to generate profiles. |
| 23:58.53 | Sander^home | So it becomes more accurate. |
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