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14:53.49[gnubie]anyone using debian jessie amd64 here with bonding lacp and the hwaddress ether $MAC_ADDRESS does not work as expected?
14:54.52[gnubie]how to change the mac address permanently from the /etc/network/interfaces in jessie amd64?
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15:05.29SerajewelKSi have a dark desktop theme and i'm trying to start a program with a different theme because it doesn't play well with dark themes.  but when i set GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc while running the program, it picks up on the engine change (widget appearance does change) but the colors are still dark.
15:05.40SerajewelKSwhy would this be happening, and how would i make it apply the entire theme, colors and all?
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16:05.18GreatSagehi
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16:07.48GreatSagecan someone help me with installing a newer version of something on wheezy?
16:07.53centrx!ask
16:07.53dpkgIf you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:08.38SynrGyGreatSage: install a new version of what package?
16:08.50GreatSageusb-modeswitch
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16:09.09SynrGy,v usb-modeswitch
16:09.10juddPackage: usb-modeswitch on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.1.4-2; squeeze-backports: 1.2.3+repack0-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.2.3+repack0-1; jessie: 2.2.0+repack0-2; stretch: 2.2.3+repack0-1; sid: 2.2.3+repack0-1
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16:09.33SynrGywhich newer version, and what does it fix?
16:09.51GreatSageit should be modeswitching a TP-link 3g dongle
16:10.13GreatSage2.2.3 works, 1.2.3 does not
16:10.35SynrGyi see. strech -> wheezy is skipping two releases back
16:10.44SynrGystretch*
16:11.03SynrGygenrally it is not supported to mix releases. you need a backport
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16:11.28SynrGy!ssb
16:11.28dpkgFirst, check for a backport on <debian-backports>.  If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs.  To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
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16:13.22SynrGyGreatSage: if you succeed in backporting, you should see if you can get your work accepted into backports
16:13.34SynrGywhat keeps you back at wheezy?
16:13.53GreatSagepolicy, it's for work :)
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16:14.26SynrGystretch backports go to wheezy-backports-sloppy
16:14.28GreatSageas in, it's a production server, I can't just dist-upgrade it willy-nilly :p
16:14.32SynrGysee: http://backports.debian.org/Contribute/
16:14.46SynrGyright. so it is doubly-important you do a proper backport
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16:17.03SynrGyGreatSage: bad news:
16:17.05SynrGycheck-backport usb-modeswitch --torelease wheezy
16:17.14SynrGy,check-backport usb-modeswitch --torelease wheezy
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16:17.15juddBackporting package usb-modeswitch in sid→wheezy/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libjim-dev (>= 0.75-1~).
16:17.30SynrGy,check-backport libjim-dev --torelease wheezy
16:17.31juddBackporting package libjim-dev in sid→wheezy/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy.
16:17.44SynrGyGreatSage: you need to backport the pair of them together.
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16:18.12SynrGyyou *might* get away with softening the versioned dep there
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16:18.19SynrGydepends on what that fixes
16:18.44SynrGyhave a look through the changelog to try to find out when/why the dep version# was bumped up
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16:21.13SynrGyGreatSage: looks like the reason for that constraint is this: http://paste.debian.net/279888/
16:21.39SynrGyso have a read through #751271
16:21.41juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/751271 in usb-modeswitch (closed, patch): «usb-modeswitch: doesn't switch Huawei E3131s-2 on boot»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-06-11; last modified: 2014-09-15.
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16:26.18GreatSageI don't think I'm gonna do this right now
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16:28.09SynrGyGreatSage: have any workarounds, then?
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16:28.21fcp14ubuntu lixo
16:28.43GreatSagethere's a manual script for it
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16:29.08GreatSageit's not even supposed to be plugged out anyway
16:29.25SynrGyaha
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16:31.52password2Hi
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16:32.51password2so I managed to bork my debian setup with a dist-upgarde :(
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16:34.03password2I have no direct qeustion yet , but expect me to start spaming as I gogle :P
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16:36.51SilentHello :)
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16:37.05Pixeri'm trying to compile this package bitlbee-facebook. while running ./autogen.sh, it returns :autoreconf not found.
16:37.13Pixerhow do i reslove that?
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16:37.24SilentWhen deploying a small (0.5GB) virtual machine, is there an advantage or drawback for using amd64 instead of i386?
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16:38.16head8debianSilent: *suposably* amd64 is not as eficient with small ram amounts.
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16:38.57Silenthead8debian: From the way you responded I understand that it's usually not an issue, am I right?
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16:39.38head8debianSilent: It shouldn't be too big of an issue, but i cannot say from personal experience.
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16:39.58Silenthead8debian: Alright, thanks for the clarification
16:40.01head8debianPixer: sudo apt-get install autoconf
16:40.22head8debianIt may just eat more of that 512mb ram.
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16:45.20woshtymight avahi-autoip be setting a default route?
16:45.42password2I'm getting a "failed at step exec spawning /bin/plymouth No such file or directory" error when i try to boot. Anyone have an idea on how to resolve?
16:46.39finetundrawoshty: where you speaking to me?
16:46.42password2I have a few more error messages , i jjust took the last one being the culprit
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16:49.44woshtyfinetundra: nah, just having http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=116275 this issue apparently
16:49.50SynrGypassword2: dist-upgrade to what? testing? unstable? if so, see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for support
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16:50.06password2jessie , 8.1
16:50.29password2my previous version was like 7.0
16:52.04SynrGyk. then you're in the right place
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16:53.09password2i was desperate for an upgrade and my desktop have very limited internets. So I downloaded the ISOs and pointed apt-get to them and ran upgrade and dist-upgrade
16:53.38password2everything looked fine until i booted now and I was dropped into the emergency mode
16:53.44SynrGydid you read the release notes?
16:53.49SynrGyit explains some things that could go wrong
16:53.59password2no
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16:54.10password2I'll go look
16:54.32password2is there a cmd to open them , or would i need to go to the website?
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16:56.05SynrGydpkg: wheezy->jessie
16:56.05dpkgRead (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj .   In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie".  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.  3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade.  See also <jessie sysvinit>.
16:56.05WangDangpassword2: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes
16:56.20SynrGysame thing (deb.li is just a shorter link to it)
16:57.22password2ah
16:57.42password2i think it may be due to 5.6 , failing of auto mounts
16:57.58password2i have three automounts i have been moving to remove :P
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16:59.13password2i assume i can just remove the fstab entries
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17:00.53password2i think i fixed one of many issues
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17:02.07password2it now no longer drops to emergency shell  , but just gives my a single "_" and does not seem to respond
17:02.20Anoneemoare there going to be any issues if I install gnome-classic alongside with xfce?
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17:03.07AnoneemoI remember installing kde on a distro where gnome was default and running through incompatibilities and bugs
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17:08.47password2i dont even know how to debug my system now
17:09.18SynrGypassword2: could be X failed to start. does the system respond to ctrl-alt-f1?
17:10.00password2oh yeah , it does
17:10.10SynrGyso check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
17:10.45SynrGycould be you're using non-free drivers and didn't have the metapackage installed to automatically upgrade your dkms
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17:10.54SynrGymetapackages* (for kernel & headers)
17:11.03SynrGydo you have nvidia non-free drivers?
17:11.19SynrGybut it should be clearer once we see your Xorg.0.log (paste at paste.debian.net)
17:11.22SynrGy!nopaste
17:11.23dpkgnopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>.  To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste".
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17:12.21password2SynrGY i might be having nvidia non free drivers
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17:12.59SynrGynopaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log and we can have a look
17:13.22gerforcepassword2: i have this kind of problems after i installed nvidia drivers.
17:13.55password2is nopaste a cmd ? I guess i should install it
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17:14.15jelly!nopaste
17:14.15dpkgnopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>.  To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste".
17:14.32jellyshould step away from the keyboard
17:16.16password2might take me a few seconds to actually install
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17:16.54password2mmm , I had dpkg was interupted
17:17.52password2and now I ran dpkg --configure -a
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17:18.11password2I'm going to attempt a manual paste , somehow
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17:20.04jellylikes "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us", curl is often installed already
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17:22.52password2jelly: thanx
17:22.53password2i just need to navigate my proxy too
17:22.56password2:'|
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17:26.57password2meh , I'm not being very effective
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17:31.27password2would sprunge work via a proxy?
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17:33.08SynrGyi think there are env vars to do that proxy stuff
17:34.18SynrGyi'm sorry. it's too hot in here and i'm not being very helpful ;)
17:34.27password2i've set it with export http_proxy, hwever I'm getting a squid error about the reqeust not being correct
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17:34.38password2its ok
17:35.20SynrGyso just scp your stuff to a host not behind a proxy?
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17:35.42SynrGyor an ssh -> nopaste pipeline
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17:36.41SynrGycat /path-to-something | ssh notproxiedhost nopaste
17:36.51password2i just did a scp
17:37.49SynrGyproxy dodging for fun and profit :)
17:38.02SynrGyso, just waiting on that paste ...
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17:39.03password2lawl server had no curl
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17:39.38password2let see if it worked : http://srpunge.us/LTWQ
17:39.51_abc_Poing.
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17:40.13password2oh hi _abc_
17:40.39password2* http://sprunge.us/LTWQ
17:40.41_abc_Question: why is there no trace of a firewall out-of-the box setup in stock wheezy installs? While everything is wide open on the system by default? ssh, sunrpc, rpcbind and worse, plus cups?
17:41.09SynrGyah. fell asleep waiting ;)
17:41.10_abc_Nor is there a link to such anywhere in apper/etc
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17:41.28cyph3xhey guys, I know this isnt the proper venue for this but I wanted your opinions
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17:42.07SynrGy_abc_: probably an emphasis on 'just works' for the average use case (where people are behind routers routing only local traffic to those services)
17:42.28_abc_SynrGy: Well, that would be nice, but it does not, really.
17:42.39jelly_abc_: debian does not come with a specific firewall script enabled, there are many and it's hard to pick sane defaults
17:42.40_abc_The rpcbind etc is open but there is no default nfs mount
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17:42.47ochiottes_abc_: A firewall is a complicated thing. You could have a look at the arno's iptables firewall
17:43.09cyph3xA close friend of mine ordered a package. It was "lost" in the mail, it randomly appeared a week later addressed to the proper person but the contents of the package was replaced with a book called "Die Drei", an empty shell casing and about 30 letters from prison letterhead
17:43.17_abc_I know there are many out there, am just surprized after all these years, there's not even the default minimal firewall implemented with 5 lines of iptables.
17:43.38abrotmancyph3x: ##chat or #debian-offtopic .. this has nothing to do with Debian
17:43.44bazhangcyph3x, there is no place that would be on topic
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17:43.59cyph3xI know Bazhang, #thestruggle ><
17:44.04abrotman...
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17:44.45SynrGy_abc_: choosing defaults to satisfy everyone is harder than you probably can imagine.
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17:44.57_abc_You did not ask the most important question: What caliber was the empty shell casing ...
17:45.09SynrGy_abc_: if debian's defaults make you unhappy, use preseeding on your next install.
17:45.17_abc_SynrGy: I agree. But shipping cups enabled and sunrpc enabled silently is pretty bad imho.
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17:45.29SynrGy_abc_: file bugs
17:45.32_abc_Especially when there's no easy gui way to see what they are
17:45.32SynrGynothing we can do about it
17:45.40innmalintI want to create a custom, persistent live USB. Is this more trouble than it's worth? Asking b/c I'm not sure where to start.
17:45.53_abc_I'd rather file a 3 button firewall enable disable script ;
17:46.03SynrGy_abc_: before you file duplicate bugs, do check to see if there are existing bugs ...
17:46.09SynrGy_abc_: you're probably not the first to point it out
17:46.09abrotmaninnmalint: the existing ones aren't good enough?
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17:46.36SynrGy_abc_: you might find the developers' rationale for the way things are now (assuming you find such bugs) illuminating
17:46.36_abc_Also wheezy ships with a version of ntfs fuse mount which refuses to mount ntfs volumes by users, even with the right permissions and fstab lines
17:46.52innmalintThe only thing that comes close to what i want is DRBL. Just thought it'd be nice if i could customize it, which i dont think i can.
17:46.53_abc_SynrGy: I am eager to read about those rationales.
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17:47.48_abc_Especially when the "competition" now comes buttoned down better than that (since SP3 on XP even)
17:47.51password2I'm eager to get my debian fixed :P
17:47.56jelly_abc_: note that you installed the previous release.  Some of the issues may have already been addressed.
17:48.01SynrGy_abc_: i speak only in generalities. in general, "why does Debian do this *stupid* thing?" types of questions, especially where the thing is "obviously wrong", probably has a more interesting story than "because our developers are dumb" ;)
17:48.09_abc_jelly: I will try the live dvd of jessie too.
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17:48.25_abc_I did not say stupid, I said weird, given the times we live.
17:48.28SynrGyyep
17:48.35SynrGya bit of hyperbole on my part. pardon
17:48.48SynrGyhence winky. intended to convey not entirely serious
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17:49.17_abc_So is there anywhere some discussion on this? Like on firewall and so on decisions taken by core developers?
17:49.46dashsDoes some profile need to set XDG_RUNTIME_DIR?
17:49.57_abc_Also the kde 4 logout screen has everything and the kitchen sink in it and I can't locate configs for it. I've taken to reading source in git to locate config options, if any. Surely there's a better way?
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17:50.09SynrGy_abc_: our discussions tend to be chiefly in two places: primarily the bug tracking system (bugs.debian.org) to discuss specifics of particular packages. and other discussions on the debian-devel mailing list
17:50.27_abc_SynrGy: Feature requests go under bugs? ;)
17:50.35SynrGy_abc_: additionally, there are various Debian teams, each with their own lists, where discussions that don't need to go to the broader community happen
17:50.46SynrGy_abc_: yes. wishlist priority bugs
17:50.51_abc_Okay.
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17:52.14SynrGy_abc_: an overview of how we're organized is at https://www.debian.org/devel/ but the wiki has a better list of teams
17:52.27SynrGyhttps://www.debian.org/devel/
17:52.39SynrGyargh, mispasted. um. https://wiki.debian.org/Teams
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17:54.54_abc_Thanks. I will look later.
17:55.41password2SynrGy it seems my system is fixed
17:56.42password2it would apear dpkg not finishing had something to do with the Xorg issue
17:56.52SynrGythat would do it
17:57.06jelly_abc_: frankly, both cups and rpcinfo are low risk, for a workstation system hiding behind NAT.  For a public machine, the admin should exercise great care in choice of initial tasks.
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17:57.13SynrGywhen you said you had upgraded i assumed you meant you finished. i guess i shouldn't have assumed
17:57.57password2SynrGy , it did seems to finish and exit normally
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17:58.51password2Wow , quite the change visually though
17:59.04SynrGyyay
17:59.09SynrGy!congratulate password2
17:59.09dpkgYay password2, you did it!
17:59.20_abc_jelly: let's not assume NAT. Let's assume the average FTTH box which has the 'local' net shared between about 300 users across your neighborhood.
17:59.27password2oh thanx :D
17:59.39_abc_jelly: Which is a sort of NAT but not quite the kind you have in mind, probably.
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18:00.05_abc_jelly: Also very very common and getting more common
18:00.06jelly_abc_: I wish I lived in a country where FTTH was average!
18:00.11bulldoze11channel list
18:00.14bulldoze11oops.
18:00.16_abc_jelly: It is in .ro where I am and elsewhere
18:00.28_abc_bulldoze11: /query alis ; help @
18:00.51_abc_jelly: I assume you're in UK or some other less advanced (pun) country.
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18:01.48password2FTTH?
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18:03.56tbsaundehow do I ask dpkg about pci stuff again?
18:04.15tbsaundeasking it for help doesn't show anything obvious
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18:04.34jellytbsaunde: do you have a pci id? wrong bot, /msg judd pciid 0000:0000
18:05.02tbsaundejelly: ah thanks yeah
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18:06.20SynrGyalso /msg judd help pciid for options
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18:18.00password2mmm, i see they fixed my hibernate issues , by removing the button :P
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18:20.22SynrGyaw. heh. no, just hiding it. but gone now
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18:21.19password2I'll try hibernation tommorow
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18:22.06SynrGyoh, you didn't leave. just your ghost
18:22.15SynrGypassword2: press alt or something
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18:22.29SynrGysome modifier makes the button show in the menu
18:22.37SynrGyi forget which, as i no longer use gnome-shell
18:22.49Goonzuwhat do i need to mount to fix my grub? is it mount -t /proc proc?
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18:23.28password2Thanx again SynrGy , I'll try stuff tomorrow
18:23.30SynrGyin a chroot? i typically bind-mount everything
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18:24.11SynrGymount --bind /sys chroot/sys ; mount --bind /proc chroot/proc ; mount --bind /dev chroot/dev ; mount --bind /dev/pts chroot/dev/pts
18:24.13GoonzuSynrGy: well i dont know what to mount
18:24.23Goonzuohh i see
18:24.39SynrGyso yeah, proc, but the others too
18:24.51SynrGyand then when done, chroot chroot
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18:32.21dashssystem-drek unbelievable -- if you disable lightdm on simple install logind will not start.  Steaming lump.
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18:48.06amdgoondashs: yep, I've had it with systemd too
18:48.18amdgoonack he left
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19:02.47unbornamdgoon, you always moan about bsd install...install it if you are not happy with debian
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19:02.57gonetolunchanyone have a good recommendation for partitioning?
19:03.01Goonzuwhat is the latest debian kernel?
19:03.13unbornits your choice and its so simple.. we do not need to know what are you installing :)
19:03.28unborngonetolunch, gparted
19:03.44gonetolunchI mean, in terms of a scheme for debian
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19:04.09valdyngonetolunch: one big partition for everything, till you know what you need
19:04.22valdyngonetolunch: theres no point in advice for this
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19:04.49extoris there a distro of debian recommended for python 3 by chance?
19:04.59gonetolunchif I want a separate home, is there any guideline on what I should put for / ?
19:05.01unbornvaldyn, it is.. point is if you want to share /home with other oses perhaps with re-install..
19:05.04unbornor backup
19:05.06unbornheh
19:05.26unbornso many options are there.. he is good and right to ask this question
19:05.32valdyngonetolunch: 20G, unless you have to conserve space for some reason
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19:06.27valdyngonetolunch: 20G can be to small, but it can also be way to big
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19:07.13gonetolunchyeah... partitioning has always been annoying. lvm is a solution, but it might be overkill
19:07.15valdynunborn: sharing /home cannot work safely
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19:07.48valdyngonetolunch: it was worth learning it for me
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19:08.15gonetolunchisn't it prone to fragmentation and harder to recover from, though?
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19:08.15unbornvaldyn, it does on deb based systems.. if you refer to reinstall.. I can only recommend use separated /home.. even if you upgrading the distro..
19:08.33Windyso, i'm getting a 404 error on http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/jesse/main/binary-i386/packages, contrib, and nonfree.  my sources.list has "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jesse main contrib non-free" ?
19:08.59valdyngonetolunch: if you change partitions *alot* (hundreds of times at least)
19:09.02unbornWindy, hi - 404 means it no longer exist :)
19:09.14valdyngonetolunch: but you wont do that
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19:09.39valdynunborn: its not at all safe, not even on debian based systems
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19:09.58valdynunborn: sharing i mean, of course splitting out /home is good
19:10.11Windyunborn: roger that, but i guess i'm a little unclear on how to modify the source to get those packages
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19:11.34valdyngonetolunch: lvm is just a tool you learn, its not hard to recover
19:11.38unborn<PROTECTED>
19:11.59valdynWindy: ^^
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19:12.12Windyi guess the URL i was using wasn't correct.  i'm now getting the contrib and non-free from ftp.debian.org :)
19:12.13Windythanks
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19:13.29unbornWindy, for sure we are in one handshake.. but deb devs of website should have prepared some info msg for users... you know.. I am web dev for 11 years and unless you try to access admin logins page.. you wont have 404 beast :)
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19:14.33gonetolunchvaldyn: I mean, in terms of recovering data from a faulty drive. Its non contiguous nature would make it more difficult I imagine
19:14.37unborn...or there is one possible explanation of this - miss spelled url
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19:15.26Windyunborn: thanks, but i certainly checked the spelling.  it's possible http://http.debian.net/debian/ isn't a valid deb url anymore
19:15.27valdyngonetolunch: im sure you can construct a case where lvm makes it harder to recover
19:15.34valdyngonetolunch: but its not realistic
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19:16.09unbornWindy, I got ftp interface..url is valid eh on my end point
19:16.32valdyngonetolunch: if you lost the partition table (or the lvm table), then you dont know where the partition resides, same in both cases
19:16.35Windystrange :-S
19:16.40AdorableGNU:-/
19:17.11unbornWindy, maybe your gov does not like it or something
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19:17.37unbornbut on my end it works.. got black page with links to download. no logins need it
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19:18.00valdyngonetolunch: if you are worried about a drive breaking, then you are doing this totally wrong
19:18.13valdyngonetolunch: drives break. Typically you cannot recover anything.
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19:19.09gonetolunchit's true, backups are king
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19:19.54unbornalways have back up :) no matter of what..
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19:36.46Psil0CybinHey guys i havce a quick question just installed Debian stable, on a computer and for Wifi it says device not ready, i do not have an ethernet how can i download a .deb of the firmware needed
19:37.06Psil0CybinI have downloaded [firmware-nonfree_0.43.tar.gz] copied it into /lib/firmware
19:37.08Psil0Cybinbut that has not helped
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19:37.21Psil0Cybinfrom here https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek
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19:38.00wlan2Well hello~
19:38.32Psil0CybinHello :)
19:38.34Azrael_-hi
19:38.46wlan2My eth2 turned into enp1s0 when rebooted after installed pending testing upgrades.
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19:39.33Azrael_-i'm using curier-imap with outlook. if i use the junk filter of outlook and mark an email not as spam, then the email is properly moved to the inbox but the id of the email-file completely changes. is this normal? why does this happen? any ideas?
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19:42.29Psil0Cybinif someone could help me that would be aamzign :) thanks guys, I have tried coping over the files into /lib/firmware/rtl_nic and it still says device not ready
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19:44.18eschmidbauer__Hi. I would like to create a custom debian 8 install ISO. Trouble is, some of the software on the ISO will need to be compiled (not dpkg) . Is this possible ?
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19:45.31wlan2Anyone has a grain of salt on why interface names changed to something else in new testing (yes I'm quite some weeks later)
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19:46.01wlan2eschmidbauer__, how about generating new .deb files for that software?
19:46.14eschmidbauer__i just thought about that..
19:46.27eschmidbauer__i'll look into it. thank you wlan2
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19:46.51eschmidbauer__wlan2: is it mandatory to use .deb files in an install ISO?
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19:47.33eschmidbauer__wlan2: in addition to packages, we need to load config files from the install
19:47.47eschmidbauer__does that mean we need to package our configs in the custom .deb files?
19:48.05eschmidbauer__or is there a way to 'copy' our custom config files ?
19:48.11eschmidbauer__during install
19:48.32equaPsil0Cybin: what device are you trying to install?
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19:51.07wlan2eschmidbauer__, I think you could edit the debian installer scripts, but I din't know much about how they work. Just told you what seemed to me the "easy" way.
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19:52.52sdesssHello I was holding a shift, alt or something key and a notification popped up that said "slow keys activated" and now a key wont type unless i hold it for a long time, I dont know what to do? I use  xfce by the way
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19:53.51Windysdesss: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1943778.html has some suggestions
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19:54.36eschmidbauer__is it possible to "re-package" a .deb file?
19:54.46eschmidbauer__like if i want to re-package nginx with my own nginx.conf
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19:55.52sdesssBut slow keys is unticked in the settings?
19:55.56eschmidbauer__oh cool, apt-get source nginx
19:55.59Psil0Cybinequa, wifi drivers i have downloaded the firmware-realtek.deb
19:56.00yanginitramfs give out the error "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8107e-2.fw for module r8169" supposedly firmware-realtek was supposed to fix the error, but there is no  such package in jessie...
19:56.07Psil0Cybininstaleld it and when i boot up the computer it still says firmware failed to load and lists a big list
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19:56.15Psil0Cybini keep getting device not ready under the wifi
19:56.15equaPsil0Cybin: is it pci or usb?
19:56.18Psil0CybinUSB
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19:56.29yangSo, is the error solveable
19:56.29ob-sedhmm does the  nvidia 940M with intel iGPU optimus work fine with jessie ?
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19:56.56equaPsil0Cybin: do lsusb and give me the output of the wifi
19:57.30Psil0CybinRalink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
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19:57.55equaPsil0Cybin: missing the id stuff
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19:58.23Psil0Cybinoh woops sorry so it says Bus 002 Device 002: ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter.
19:58.34yang"firmware-realtek" seems to be in jessie, however the error still shows up
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19:59.51r6kuralink is not realtek
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20:00.23Psil0Cybinokay i am going to try and install firmware-ralink.deb see what happens
20:00.35Psil0Cybini just had a few usb adapters
20:01.04equaPsil0Cybin: are you on jessie stable?
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20:01.53Psil0Cybinyyes
20:01.55Psil0Cybinthank you worked fine :D
20:01.59Psil0Cybininstalled the wrong .deb, silly me.
20:02.07equaPsil0Cybin: grats
20:02.23Psil0Cybinbut thank you im a silly silly monkey.
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20:06.13eschmidbauer__is there a debian certification like RHEL ?
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20:06.56abrotmaneschmidbauer__: there are certs that include Debian .. but none specifically for Debian
20:07.09abrotmanIn reality, you wouldn't want a cert that requires a certain distro
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20:07.37eschmidbauer__i have LPIC-1
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20:08.01abrotmanand?
20:08.06rndmis there some option to userod or passwd to set the passwd field in shadow to "*"?
20:08.08eschmidbauer__was thinking about going for RHEL but i like debian more
20:08.11rndmusermod*
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20:10.27BeBooHey all. Simple networking issue that I can't wrap my head around. I have am Debian VM with two NICs (DMZ - eth0 and LAN - eth1). I am trying to configure eth1 but when I bring the interface up, it doesn't have an IP. Here is my interfaces: http://pastie.org/private/febgrenrnnw6zh87vbf1tq
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20:12.05bigmoCan someone help me getting an Ati RV280 aka 9200 se to work with debian jessie.   It used to work automatically on wheezy but gives a blinking cursor on debian jessie.   I am trying to use the radeon driver as documentation seems to support as best to use.   Has Jessie just dropped support for the RV280 models ?
20:12.23bigmoI'd really like to get this old card working
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20:13.53wlan2bigmo, have you considered purge XOrg, make sure to remove xorg.conf, then install xorg and try again?
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20:16.14equaBeBoo: what's the output of ip a?
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20:17.27BeBooequa: I figured it out just now. Had multiple gateways listed, restarted (restarting network wasn't enough).
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20:22.07Psil0Cybinhey guys after installing debian 8 off cd, i have commented the CDROM sources.list, and uncommented the internet ones...but i am unable to install any software such as docky, bluefish but its listed in the Software Packages for Jessie Stable
20:22.07bigmowlan2 I have tried it with a fresh install of jessie and it did not work
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20:22.51centrxPsil0Cybin, How are you unable?
20:23.08Psil0Cybinapt-get install docky Unable to locate package docky
20:23.18Psil0Cybinapt-get install bluefish Unable to locate package bluefish
20:23.27equaPsil0Cybin: have you run apt-get update?
20:23.32eschmidbauer__so i have debian package source, is there a way to add bash commands just as mkdir when the .deb is installed?
20:23.32Psil0Cybinyes sir
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20:23.52equaPsil0Cybin: output of your source list
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20:24.36Psil0Cybinhttp://paste.debian.net/279955
20:24.50centrx!sources
20:24.50dpkgA suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main".  Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list.  Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list".
20:25.29equaPsil0Cybin: are you in the US ?
20:25.32Psil0CybinCanada
20:25.44Psil0Cybinclose enough
20:26.42Psil0Cybinwas looking @ https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list_for_Debian_8_.22Jessie.22
20:26.48Psil0Cybinshould i just copy all the 6 lines?
20:27.06centrxPsil0Cybin, Sure
20:27.07equaPsil0Cybin: your source should look like this http://paste.debian.net/279957/
20:27.18centrxPsil0Cybin, You can skip/comment out the deb-src lines though, they are only needed to download source packages
20:27.19wlan2Psil0Cybin, fun fact: first hackathon ever was on Canada because of the bad laws regarding security software in the US.
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20:30.35Psil0Cybinso which one was i missing :) and thanks for the fun facts.
20:30.47Psil0Cybinfor the actually software lol compared to what i had other than the canadian mirrors?
20:31.39centrxPsil0Cybin, You were missing the main one. The default install comes with the update lines to update on top of the CD
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20:34.42RickHullHi, where can I read about how to manage services in Debian?   https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon   this looks out of date
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20:35.28equaRickHull: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd
20:35.47RickHullI didn't see anywhere on there about services
20:35.56RickHulle.g. `service foo status`
20:36.42equaRickHull: man systemctl
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20:41.18weeblhaving issues with upgrading from wheezy to jessie with udev post installation script
20:41.21weeblsubprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
20:41.34weeblgoogling has not given me the answer yet - anyone else experience this?
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20:42.39weebldebug: http://paste.debian.net/279961/
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20:44.31weeblseems it cannot remove a conffile?
20:45.04wlan2Meh, goodbye.
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20:46.00weeblah balls
20:46.04weebl204 was backports
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21:02.49MikeWorthFunny things seem to be happening to my volume controls in banshee since upgrading to jessie. Plugging/unplugging headphones mutes it plus turning the main volume control down causes banshee to mute (it then stays muted when main volume is increased). Anyone got any idea what's going on? I can't find anything relevant in the options menus
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21:12.01RickHullMikeWorth: using XFCE?
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21:13.25MikeWorthRickHull: Nope, Gnome 3.14.1
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21:16.36valdynMikeWorth: run pavucontrol
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21:18.58MikeWorth$ pavucontrol
21:18.58MikeWorthbash: pavucontrol: command not found
21:19.41MikeWorthhang on, found it in aptitude- I'll install it
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21:21.34valdynMikeWorth: dont install pulseaudio unless its installed already
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21:21.35MikeWorthI've got it open, same behaviour and I can't find any options to change
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21:22.04valdynMikeWorth: with pavucontrol you can monitor how output devices switch when you unplug headphones
21:22.19valdynMikeWorth: and you can control each output channel...
21:22.59valdynMikeWorth: or switch streams to different output devices
21:23.24MikeWorthI'm not sure if I'm looking at the right thing; the only "advanced option" I can see is a latency offset
21:23.40valdynMikeWorth: you dont need advanced options
21:23.51mrrhqI dunno what kind of problems I've been having, but when I plug in my USB hdd to an ExpressCard 54 device, which has this USB 3.0 port, systemd says that the device times out.
21:24.26MikeWorthI can't see any config options to do with plugging in headphones etc. anywhere; am I just being an idiot?
21:24.28valdynMikeWorth: see the banshee stream?
21:24.37MikeWorthyep
21:24.39mrrhqdmesg also doesn't give me much help either.
21:24.50valdynMikeWorth: see the putton showing the soundcard at that stream?
21:25.39mrrhqIf I plug it into another USB port, seems to work fine. Is xhci-hcd having problems?
21:26.04valdynMikeWorth: *button*
21:26.16MikeWorthAll I see under the banshee section is the track/artist, mute button, "lock channels together" button, left and right volume sliders and a flickering blue bar showing current output level
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21:26.44mrrhqSounds like someone has an awfully strong opinion: http://www.pcl-developers.org/xhci-hcd-I-hate-you-USB-3-0-and-Primesense-Asus-Xtion-td5707949.html
21:27.07valdynMikeWorth: theres a button, sais something like "Internal Audio" or "HDMI" or whatever its currently streaming to.
21:28.09MikeWorthI can't see one; I am supposed to be looking on the "playback" tab right?
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21:30.12valdynMikeWorth: right, maybe that button is not shown when you have only 1 output device
21:31.05valdynMikeWorth: then theres not much more you can do in the pulseaudio side: Check that its not muted / turn up volume in the plaback and in the output devices tab
21:31.46MikeWorthI can turn it back up, it's just very frustrating that it keeps muting itself to start with
21:32.12valdynMikeWorth: I see, well i dont know a workaround for that
21:33.01MikeWorthback to muttering profanities every time I accidentally trigger it then I suppose
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21:33.07MikeWorthThanks a lot for your help anyway
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21:34.08tbsaundeso for some reason sound doesn't work on this w541 I have even though it looks like the pci ids  for the two audio controllers are supported by linux, speaker-test and amixer output is http://paste.debian.net/279974/
21:34.26tbsaundeanyone have ideas what's up?
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21:37.46polyphagiais there a way to disable a joystick?
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21:38.32jaybeunplug it
21:40.14polyphagialol jaybe my friend has an adapter that adds two devices
21:40.25polyphagiajs0 and js1, but only js1 works
21:40.33polyphagiagames autodetect js0 and ignore js1 though
21:40.44polyphagiai just need a quick way to nix js0
21:41.40valdynpolyphagia: "mv js1 js0"
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21:44.17polyphagiathanks valdyn i think that's it
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22:16.49berndji just noticed yesterday that my canto(1) setup wasn't running, then discovered it isn't an available package (but must've been for ubuntu). is it just that immature that it isn't, or is there a licencing issue?
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22:22.36juddPackage: canto on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.7.9-1; wheezy: 0.7.10-4
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22:23.31berndji'm on jessie. but apt-cache search canto shows nothing relevant (only 'cantor' and other spurious substring matches)
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22:33.52JulossssHi ! Need help for a buggy MySQL upgrade !!!!
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22:43.44fnstudiohi! any way I can know a possible ETA for a kernel version (4.1) on Debian unstable?
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22:45.58letsfindoutis there a reason why debian doesn't have a basic firewall policy implemented after install? seems insecure
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22:47.31fnstudioFWIW this seems relevant to my question: https://wiki.debian.org/KernelFAQ - any other tips welcome
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22:53.18jaybeletsfindout, somewhat agree. on the other hand, by default, nothing is listening globally from a services perspective. i.e. exim4 only respond on localhost, etc.
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22:54.22letsfindoutjaybe: no debian package listens globally by default?
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22:57.24letsfindoutis there a good way to see what's listening for outside connections?
22:57.38letsfindoutI imagine some form of switches using netstat
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23:02.44jaybeletsfindout, of course. learn about:  `lsof -i`,  `netstat`, etc.
23:03.02jaybeletsfindout, i.e. `netstat -aW --programs | more`
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23:06.54letsfindoutjaybe: thanks
23:07.00jaybeletsfindout, welcome
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23:13.23letsfindoutalso, what's the best way to deal with automating stuff at startup. Like if I want an iptables script to run, or umount /boot etc. Would I have to write a systemd service file or something? or is there another way?
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23:14.18AvatarAhmm, I wonder why nobody recommends netstat -ltu
23:15.06RickHullletsfindout: yes
23:15.38RickHullyou need to use systemd.  i have some questions about it as well
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23:16.20AvatarAof course there are lots of other ways but using systemd seems to be the most elegant now that it's the default init system
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23:16.48RickHulli'm trying to get solr running via systemd
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23:17.05jaybeletsfindout, regarding firewall/iptables; learn about iptables-persistent package; i.e.  `aptitude show iptables-persistent`
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23:28.26letsfindoutjaybe: sounds good, looks like it prevents me reinventing the wheel
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23:32.42Brigoletsfindout, netfilter-persistent can be helpful too.
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23:38.40RickHullhmm, can anyone explain to me how systemd interacts with /etc/init.d scripts, on Jessie?
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23:38.51RickHulli have /etc/init.d/solr (comes from a chef cookbook)
23:38.59RickHullbut systemd complains there is no .service file
23:39.12RickHulli also have installed monit, and it has an /etc/init.d/monit
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23:39.23RickHullyet systemd doesn't complain
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