| 00:01.00 | starter | r6ku: it's install automaticly.dont asked me! |
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| 00:01.48 | starter | when finished installing shown this error: the grub-efi package failed to install! |
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| 00:04.47 | r6ku | starter: I suppose there could be something wrong with your installation media, which OS are you right now? |
| 00:04.58 | somiaj | telmac: does 'iwconfig wlan0' return anything about your wifi device? Double check that firmware is loaded, 'dmesg | grep firmware' |
| 00:05.24 | somiaj | starter: which install medium are you using? A live image or an offical installer? |
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| 00:06.39 | telmac | somiaj: yes |
| 00:06.59 | telmac | and when I ran the command to list available networks it was correct |
| 00:07.06 | telmac | or well, listed a bunch including my own |
| 00:07.48 | somiaj | telmac: try one command at a time, I've never changed them, figure out what the issues is, first iwconfig wlan0 ap whatever, then check iwconfig wlan0 and see if it set the ap correctly |
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| 00:08.25 | telmac | somiaj: sorry, whatever what? |
| 00:08.41 | somiaj | whatever your ap is (: |
| 00:08.46 | telmac | ? |
| 00:08.52 | telmac | the ssid/ |
| 00:09.05 | somiaj | yea sorry I'm thinkg ap, sicne that is what I have to use a lot |
| 00:09.11 | somiaj | I mean iwconfig wlan0 ssid whateer |
| 00:09.33 | telmac | iwconfig: unknown command "ssid" |
| 00:09.34 | telmac | ? |
| 00:09.59 | abrotman | which version of Debian is this? |
| 00:10.11 | starter | i used windows7 64bit |
| 00:10.21 | abrotman | telmac: "essid" |
| 00:10.45 | telmac | prints a new line |
| 00:10.49 | telmac | that's it |
| 00:11.14 | telmac | oh |
| 00:11.18 | telmac | okay that's what it was supposed to |
| 00:11.24 | starter | downloaded debian-7.8.0-amd64-DVD-1 |
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| 00:11.57 | telmac | somiaj: it has my wap as far as I can tell |
| 00:12.16 | telmac | the only thing that identifies it to me is the ssid but there's a bunch more information |
| 00:13.57 | r6ku | starter: use this software to make the usb instead: https://rufus.akeo.ie/ also you might want to use a more recent version of debian: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.1.0-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 00:14.04 | telmac | when I run dhclient wlan0 I it prints a new line, no prompt, and sits there |
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| 00:15.55 | somiaj | telmac: sounds like it is working just fine then |
| 00:16.05 | starter | I have tried to install it. But different errors that,i will try it.thank you |
| 00:17.09 | telmac | somiaj: so, I ran dhclient wlan0 again and it sat for a while but actually did finally print a new prompt |
| 00:17.30 | telmac | but I can't reach the internet |
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| 00:18.11 | nectur2 | Hi hello |
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| 00:19.46 | nectur2 | I can't get iceweasel's temp folder to change it keeps writing to /tmp/ is there any way i could change this behavior? |
| 00:20.45 | telmac | somiaj: like if I ping 8.8.8.8 I get host unreachable |
| 00:20.59 | Equa | telmac: ip a |
| 00:21.21 | somiaj | telmac: well start by looking at ip or ifconfig and seeing if dhclient gave you an ip or not. |
| 00:21.46 | starter | r6ku: what about partition scheme and target system type?Which should I choose? |
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| 00:24.15 | r6ku | starter: just pick "use entire disk" if you're not sure |
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| 00:31.16 | telmac | somiaj: yes, it appears I was assigned an ip etc. |
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| 00:32.57 | RogueYun | anyone here live near surf city NC and want to come to my house to help me install debian on my laptop? |
| 00:33.52 | Equa | RogueYun: what's your wifi and video card? |
| 00:34.33 | somiaj | telmac: then try to ping your ip, then your gate way and so forth. |
| 00:34.44 | RogueYun | Nvidia and I can wire to my router so wifi isn't an issue. |
| 00:35.26 | Equa | RogueYun: model of the nvidia |
| 00:35.57 | abrotman | dpkg: tell RogueYun about consultants |
| 00:36.55 | RogueYun | geforce gtx 660M 2GB |
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| 00:37.26 | Equa | RogueYun: your installation should be fairly easy. Is there a reason why you want someone to come there? |
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| 00:38.50 | RogueYun | Equa: Easy my foot! http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=121652&p=575349&hilit=rogue#p584035 |
| 00:39.30 | telmac | somiaj: so I can ping my own ip, unsure of the router's ip |
| 00:39.39 | telmac | and it's not 192.168.1.0/1/2 |
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| 00:40.24 | Equa | RogueYun: are you able to boot from a cd / dvd instead? |
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| 00:40.52 | somiaj | most likely it is 192.168.1.1 |
| 00:41.06 | telmac | like I said, it's not |
| 00:41.14 | RogueYun | Equa: No CD drive available on this model. |
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| 00:43.02 | somiaj | telmac: look at ip adder or ifconfig and determine the gateway, or the output of route |
| 00:43.02 | Equa | telmac: do ip route to find your gateway |
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| 00:43.02 | buu | So what's the sanest way to loop over the first 40 files in the CWD sorted by mtime? |
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| 00:43.03 | telmac | okay, I pinged that address and ping said "do you want to ping broad cast? then -b" I did, and got nothing back |
| 00:44.08 | Equa | telmac: mind pasting the output on paste.debian.net? |
| 00:44.26 | telmac | of what |
| 00:44.36 | Equa | telmac: ip route |
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| 00:46.19 | telmac | http://pastebin.com/NUJwpPLL had to type it out |
| 00:46.41 | Equa | telmac: that means you're not on the network |
| 00:46.51 | Equa | telmac: you are not connected to the router |
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| 00:46.57 | telmac | ah, okay |
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| 00:47.55 | Equa | telmac: do ip a. is your wifi up ? |
| 00:48.33 | telmac | unless it went down and only for wifi in the last thirty minutes |
| 00:48.58 | Equa | telmac: just do a quick ip a and check the state? |
| 00:49.11 | telmac | not sure how to interpret this information |
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| 00:49.24 | telmac | rather long to type, what exactly should I be looking for under wlan0? |
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| 00:49.52 | Equa | telmac: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state |
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| 00:50.10 | Equa | telmac: the word after state should say up or down |
| 00:50.21 | telmac | DOWN |
| 00:50.43 | telmac | also the rest of that line was slightly different |
| 00:50.57 | Equa | telmac: its' fine. i only wanted to know if it was up or down |
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| 00:51.23 | Equa | telmac: your wifi is wlan0 correct? if so do ip link set wlan0 up as a superuser |
| 00:51.52 | telmac | I did that an hour or so ago but I just did it again |
| 00:52.15 | Equa | telmac: please dont mind what you did an hr ago or so on. if it's not up we need bring it up |
| 00:52.35 | Equa | telmac: now do ip a and check if it's up |
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| 00:52.49 | telmac | still down |
| 00:53.22 | Equa | telmac: now do dmesg and see the reason for it not being up. read thru the log. |
| 00:53.39 | telmac | naturally dmesg is huge |
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| 00:53.50 | telmac | so what exactly should I be looking for (or grepping for?) |
| 00:54.26 | Equa | telmac: read the end part... you just tried to bring it up recently so it should be near the bottom |
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| 00:55.21 | telmac | IPv6L ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready |
| 00:55.45 | Equa | telmac: that's not it. read up more |
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| 00:58.23 | telmac | if the number preceeding the line is something like seconds upp, then the rest of dmesg's output is from the first ten seconds after boot |
| 00:58.42 | telmac | except for two lines which are to do with usb and are me removing a flash drive. |
| 00:58.54 | telmac | and a keyboard |
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| 00:59.15 | Equa | telmac: look for something related to to wifi or authencation failured for the wifi |
| 00:59.28 | Equa | authentication |
| 00:59.31 | telmac | no seriously do you want me to read like 1000 lines of dmesg out put |
| 00:59.36 | telmac | okay, grep for that? |
| 00:59.43 | chx | hello. i am trying to recompile a package but change an option it passes to configure. how do i do that? |
| 00:59.59 | telmac | Equa: nothing |
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| 01:00.36 | Equa | telmac: are you bringing it up with a root user ? |
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| 01:01.04 | telmac | yes. |
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| 01:01.43 | Equa | telmac: i need the log for dmesg. |
| 01:01.59 | telmac | would you like me to put it on a usb to move it or some such? |
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| 01:03.03 | Equa | telmac: yes. that would help. have you tried to plug in the ethernet cable to your wired device? sometimes it works without loading the correct driver |
| 01:04.30 | telmac | I have not, let me get the dmesg file for you first |
| 01:04.50 | Equa | telmac: try that first. if you have internet on that comp... makes this pasting much easier |
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| 01:05.44 | telmac | http://paste.debian.net/279465/ |
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| 01:08.06 | telmac | Equa: prints an error about failing to load a .fw file |
| 01:08.16 | telmac | looks like the same one as the debian installer complained about |
| 01:08.48 | telmac | I imagine that means it indeed needs this nonfree firmware |
| 01:10.25 | jonne | i have a weird problem on one of our wheezy servers: I can't seem to install any variation of locate (locate , mlocate, ...) |
| 01:10.52 | jonne | "Package locate is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 01:10.56 | Equa | telmac: is your wifi usb or pci? what's the model of it? what/how did you setup your network? |
| 01:11.19 | telmac | pci |
| 01:11.31 | telmac | not sure how I can look up the model |
| 01:11.49 | buu | telmac: run lspci |
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| 01:12.06 | jonne | http://pastebin.ca/3048062 |
| 01:12.14 | jonne | that's my sources.list |
| 01:12.22 | somiaj | jonne: please share the output of apt-cache policy of said debian server at paste.debian.net (make sure your sources are correct) |
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| 01:12.42 | telmac | Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
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| 01:13.10 | somiaj | ,v locate |
| 01:13.11 | judd | Package: locate on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.4.2-1+b1; wheezy: 4.4.2-4; jessie: 4.4.2-9+b1; sid: 4.4.2-9+b1; stretch: 4.4.2-9+b1; experimental: 4.5.14-2 |
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| 01:13.20 | telmac | ah! I forgot to mention something |
| 01:13.39 | telmac | on boot on got the following error: drm:cpt_serr_int-handler] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun |
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| 01:13.47 | somiaj | jonne: seems fine, but double check the apt-cache policy is showing the sources correctly |
| 01:13.56 | telmac | I hit enter and then just got a regular login prompt |
| 01:14.01 | telmac | I don't know if this is relevant |
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| 01:14.56 | telmac | I looked the error up and it was apparently a problem with a particular version of the kernel and I was going to update as soon as I could connect to the network |
| 01:15.02 | jonne | heh, looks like i've got pinned packages: mlocate, locate and dlocate |
| 01:15.04 | jonne | wtf |
| 01:15.12 | jonne | so i guess i need to unpin them |
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| 01:18.46 | Equa | telmac: what's the output on lspci -nn | grep wireless |
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| 01:18.54 | wathek | Hi everybody |
| 01:19.05 | wathek | I wanted to know what's the xen server version included in Wheezy ? |
| 01:19.11 | telmac | nothing |
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| 01:19.25 | Resilience | hell to everyone |
| 01:19.32 | jonne | seems like the hosting provider blacklisted locate on their image |
| 01:19.39 | telmac | however, | grep Wireless returns the device I just gave you |
| 01:19.43 | wathek | forget about my question it was a stupid one |
| 01:19.45 | wathek | sorry |
| 01:19.45 | jonne | i'm not touching that, i'm sure they had their reasons |
| 01:20.45 | Equa | telmac: give me the output lspci -nn | grep Wireless |
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| 01:21.42 | telmac | the whole line is: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01) |
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| 01:24.30 | Equa | telmac: how did you configured your network? |
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| 01:24.50 | telmac | I did not setup the network |
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| 01:25.27 | Equa | telmac: what de do you have installed? |
| 01:25.42 | telmac | on what |
| 01:25.59 | telmac | the computer this is about? nothing |
| 01:25.59 | telmac | no x |
| 01:27.05 | Equa | telmac: open a termaina. su and switch to root acct. do ip a and give me the output |
| 01:27.10 | telmac | I don't like the mess involved with trying to remove a de after installation so I didn't install one |
| 01:27.16 | telmac | Equa: I'm not in x |
| 01:27.25 | telmac | I've been on root this entire time |
| 01:27.56 | telmac | ip a gives three things, 1: has lo |
| 01:27.56 | Equa | telmac: output for ip a |
| 01:28.01 | telmac | 2: has eth0 |
| 01:28.04 | telmac | 3 has wlan0 |
| 01:28.12 | telmac | under 3, I will type the whole thing |
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| 01:28.27 | Equa | telmac: i just needed to make sure of the wlan. no need |
| 01:28.50 | telmac | didn't you ask me for the output of ip a half an hour or so ago |
| 01:28.54 | Equa | telmac: ip link set wlan0 up. then do ip a and check the state |
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| 01:29.19 | telmac | and we were talking about <BROADCAST,MULTICAT> etc. etc. DOWN |
| 01:29.36 | Equa | telmac: each time we try to bring it up. we need to check again. |
| 01:29.38 | telmac | Equa: identical output of ip a |
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| 01:30.02 | telmac | to immediately before running ip link set wlan0 up |
| 01:30.09 | iwkse | Hi, I'm having an issue with ralink firmware. I have a rt2561/rt61 pci card. I've installed firmware-ralink, the modules are loaded but when I put the device up, I get an error like, rt61pci agent aborted rt2561s (not found?). Any hint? |
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| 01:31.36 | Equa | telmac: do iwlist wlan0 scan |
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| 01:32.24 | telmac | lists several networks including mine and ones I recognize |
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| 01:32.40 | Brigo | iwkse, is /lib/firmware/rt2561s.bin file there? |
| 01:32.48 | iwkse | Brigo: yes |
| 01:32.50 | Equa | telmac: k. your wifi is working. we just need to setup the network. |
| 01:33.24 | Equa | telmac: nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:34.47 | telmac | when I initially tried to resolve this myself I edited this file and added something for my network and wlan0 |
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| 01:35.06 | telmac | however it didn't do anything and I was worried it might be conflicting with things so I commented it out |
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| 01:35.50 | Equa | telmac: what encryption for the wifi? wpa? |
| 01:35.57 | telmac | uh, probably |
| 01:36.10 | Miesco | How come when in aptitude I install 'rails', then it installs all this backage like 'ruby' with an A flag, then when I hit 'd' on rails, it only deletes the rails package and not 'ruby? |
| 01:36.12 | telmac | I'm not entirely sure |
| 01:36.17 | telmac | nor about how to check |
| 01:36.30 | Brigo | iwkse, i cannot see why the driver cannot find the firmware. |
| 01:36.35 | Miesco | sorry when I hit '-' |
| 01:36.38 | Equa | telmac: need to log into the router and check under wifi configuration / setup |
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| 01:37.15 | telmac | so the computer by which I'm communicating with you is connected via ethernet to the router |
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| 01:37.37 | Brigo | Miesco, you can delete them with aptitude autoremove |
| 01:37.41 | telmac | but I know fuckall about the router and I don't even know if what the admin credentials are etc. |
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| 01:38.00 | Miesco | Brigo: How do I make '-' delete the ones it brought in? |
| 01:38.18 | iwkse | Brigo: I don't as well..I was reading here http://askubuntu.com/questions/84635/cant-enable-ralink-rt2561-rt61-wireless-card the point about compatibility issues |
| 01:38.33 | iwkse | Brigo: it was working fine..but after an upgrade it stopped |
| 01:39.09 | Brigo | Miesco, i think you can't, it isn't safe. But i am not sure, i don't use aptitude, i use apt-get. |
| 01:39.37 | Equa | telmac: default for new routers will be wpa. let's try that. edit /etc/network/interfaces to look like this but with your info of course. http://paste.debian.net/279469/ |
| 01:39.45 | Brigo | iwkse, that was 3 years ago. |
| 01:39.55 | Brigo | iwkse, what kind of upgrade? |
| 01:40.06 | telmac | Equa: those are two tabs on the bottom two lines? |
| 01:40.11 | iwkse | Brigo: kernel and other packages |
| 01:40.19 | Brigo | iwkse, are you in testing? |
| 01:40.20 | telmac | does it need to be tabs or any whitespace? |
| 01:40.38 | Equa | telmac: yes append them. tabs or whitespace is fine but stick to just one type |
| 01:40.55 | telmac | no, does it specifically need to be two? |
| 01:41.08 | Equa | telmac: you dont' even need it. it just makes it easier for reading |
| 01:41.10 | iwkse | Brigo: yes using on that machine 3.2.0-4 if I'm not mistaken |
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| 01:41.59 | Brigo | iwkse, 3.2 is from wheezy, jessie is using 3.16, testing, not sure. |
| 01:42.05 | telmac | Equa: there were a few lines at the top, uncommented, which began with "auto lo" |
| 01:42.13 | Brigo | ,kernels |
| 01:42.14 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.5-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u2) |
| 01:42.18 | telmac | I've commented them out as well as done what you suggested and wrote the fie |
| 01:42.22 | telmac | *file |
| 01:42.26 | Brigo | 3.16 too. |
| 01:42.30 | iwkse | Brigo: moment I'll check |
| 01:42.30 | Miesco | Brigo: Well how do I remove 'rails' and all the dependencies it brought in with apt-get? |
| 01:42.42 | Brigo | apt-get autoremove |
| 01:42.48 | Brigo | should suffice. |
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| 01:42.56 | telmac | are those what were causing all of this fuckery? |
| 01:42.56 | Equa | telmac: leave those alone. it's for your loopback connection "lo" |
| 01:43.12 | telmac | okay, uncommented and rewrote |
| 01:43.13 | Miesco | Brigo: It will only remove 'rails' and only the specific packages that installing 'rails' brought in, and nothing else? |
| 01:43.37 | Equa | telmac: bring up your wifi card again. then do ip a and see if it's up with an ip for your network |
| 01:43.49 | iwkse | Brigo: yes as I said..but I have the firmware-ralink 0.44 which is sid |
| 01:43.55 | Brigo | Miesco, not sure, it will remove all package installed as dependencies which there are no needed any more. |
| 01:44.21 | Miesco | Brigo: Is there a way to just remove 'rails' and the packages it brought in? |
| 01:44.27 | iwkse | Brigo: going to download the wheezy one |
| 01:44.28 | telmac | it looks very similar, perhaps identical to what id did before |
| 01:44.54 | telmac | where would the "ip for my network" be listed? |
| 01:45.20 | telmac | there are two ips, which were both there before, on the following line: |
| 01:45.26 | Brigo | Miesco, try apt-get autoremove. It will tell you what will be removed and asking you to proced. |
| 01:45.27 | Equa | telmac: usually 192.x.x.x or 10.x.x.x |
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| 01:45.55 | telmac | inet 169.254.6.14/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link wlan0 avahi |
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| 01:46.49 | Equa | telmac: dmesg again and see if anything went wrong. |
| 01:47.04 | Miesco | Brigo: `apt-get autoremove` just asks to remove a bunch of kernels, it doesn't ask to remove ruby (to which rails brought in -- 'ruby' has an A flag -- and I deleted 'rails') |
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| 01:47.54 | Brigo | Miesco, then i don't know what is happening with your system. |
| 01:48.25 | Miesco | Brigo: I just installed rails earlier today with the hopes I would be able to delete all the packages it brought in once I deleted rails... |
| 01:48.31 | telmac | Equa: the last message was from ~1300 seconds ago and is to do with trying to connect via ethernet |
| 01:48.48 | telmac | if those are indeed seconds |
| 01:48.53 | telmac | actually those can't be seconds, can they |
| 01:48.59 | telmac | what do the numbers on dmesg denote |
| 01:49.00 | Brigo | Miesco, use apt-cache show rails and delete the dependencies. |
| 01:49.37 | iwkse | Brigo: nothing, same error |
| 01:50.03 | Brigo | what package version have you installed? |
| 01:50.19 | iwkse | the wheezy one https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/firmware-ralink/download |
| 01:51.11 | telmac | actually it would be seconds, that's only fourty minutes ago |
| 01:51.38 | Equa | telmac: you'll need wpa_supplicant package for wpa. is it installed? |
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| 01:52.04 | Brigo | ,v firmware-ralink |
| 01:52.05 | judd | Package: firmware-ralink on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; sid/non-free: 0.44; stretch/non-free: 0.44 |
| 01:52.06 | telmac | how can I search installed packages? |
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| 01:52.29 | Brigo | iwkse, and why don't you install the testing one? |
| 01:52.45 | Miesco | Brigo: How do I see what package brought in 'ruby'? The package that made it have the A flag. |
| 01:52.51 | Equa | telmac: dpkg-query -l |
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| 01:53.15 | iwkse | Brigo: I had the sid one 0.44 |
| 01:53.26 | telmac | not installed |
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| 01:53.57 | Equa | telmac: are you on jessie stable? |
| 01:53.59 | Brigo | Miesco, aptitude why ruby, i think |
| 01:54.13 | telmac | I can't even remember now |
| 01:54.18 | telmac | god, how do I check what the version is? |
| 01:54.23 | Brigo | iwkse, the sid or wheezy?? |
| 01:54.40 | iwkse | Brigo: before I had the sid..installed the wheezy right now, but same effect |
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| 01:54.47 | Equa | telmac: sourcelist. what's your arch? type uname -a |
| 01:55.10 | Brigo | sid was 0.44, wheezy 0.36, testing 0.43. |
| 01:55.20 | iwkse | yes |
| 01:55.24 | Brigo | iwkse, anyway, i don't think that is the problem. |
| 01:55.30 | iwkse | yes I dont' think too |
| 01:55.50 | Brigo | iwkse, driver keep saing it cannot find the firmware, i cannot see why.ç |
| 01:55.55 | Miesco | Brigo: I deleted all the packages from 'aptitude why ruby' and it didn't uninstall ruby |
| 01:56.04 | iwkse | Brigo: exactly |
| 01:56.17 | telmac | Linux x131e 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/LINUX |
| 01:56.21 | telmac | *Linux |
| 01:56.36 | Miesco | Brigo: How do I delete ALL the packages with an A flag? |
| 01:56.45 | Equa | telmac: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/wpasupplicant/download |
| 01:56.48 | Brigo | Miesco, as i said, i don't undestand what's going on in your system. |
| 01:57.24 | Miesco | Brigo: How do I delete all the packages I have installed that have an A flag? |
| 01:57.25 | telmac | Equa: so just follow any of the mirrors and I can download a .deb of it? |
| 01:57.51 | Equa | telmac: its' best to check with your administrator and see what type of encryption. if your'e not using wpa then this would be pointless. yes download the deb and do dpkg -i yourpackage |
| 01:58.23 | telmac | okay I'll call him |
| 01:59.27 | telmac | okay I can't connect to him |
| 01:59.33 | Miesco | Brigo: I think my system is messed up |
| 01:59.59 | telmac | Equa: in case this package doesn't resolve the problem, and you're not online once I do speak to the admin, what can I say to the next person I talk to? |
| 02:00.35 | Equa | telmac: you just need help setting up your wifi to the router. the wireless card is working and you are able to scan network around you. |
| 02:00.39 | Brigo | Miesco, there is not such A flag: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18804/what-do-the-various-dpkg-flags-like-ii-rc-mean |
| 02:00.39 | telmac | Equa: also, is it possible to see if it's wpa from say an android phone on the network |
| 02:03.04 | telmac | or from mac os |
| 02:03.06 | Equa | telmac: on some devices you can't tell since it just ask for passphrase. but if it asked for encryption type and the setting is there. you can based it on that. |
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| 02:03.06 | Miesco | Brigo: "If present, the "automatic" flag is "A", indicating that the package â |
| 02:03.06 | Miesco | was automatically installed and will be removed when nothing depends â |
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| 02:03.06 | Miesco | on it." |
| 02:03.06 | Brigo | Miesco, from where? |
| 02:03.06 | Miesco | Brigo: aptitude |
| 02:03.56 | Brigo | Miesco, right. |
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| 02:05.04 | telmac | mac os says it's "wpa/wpa2 personal" |
| 02:05.06 | telmac | is this helpful? |
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| 02:05.34 | Equa | telmac: then we did the right setup. you'll need that package |
| 02:05.53 | telmac | installed. |
| 02:06.15 | Equa | telmac: try to bring it up ifup wlan0 or ip link set wlan0 up |
| 02:06.33 | Miesco | Brigo: in my .aptitude/config I have this: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/FCsAcH47YNQJpSppoNwN/ |
| 02:06.43 | Miesco | Brigo: Could that be why everything is not working? |
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| 02:07.01 | Brigo | Miesco, really don't know, sorry. |
| 02:07.02 | telmac | Equa: what would I be looking for from the former's output |
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| 02:07.26 | Equa | telmac: if you are connected to your router. you should have an ip that's not 169.x.x.x |
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| 02:08.01 | telmac | it's 10.11.12.1, bound to 10.11.12.137, which is the router's ip |
| 02:08.04 | telmac | or so mac os claimed |
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| 02:08.14 | telmac | and I can ping the internet |
| 02:08.17 | telmac | wonderful |
| 02:08.20 | Equa | telmac: congrats |
| 02:08.30 | telmac | Equa: can you explain what happened |
| 02:08.53 | Equa | your router uses wpa/wpa2. you needed the wpa package for authentication |
| 02:09.06 | telmac | and this simply doesn't come automatically, okay |
| 02:09.20 | Equa | telmac: it does on normal installation. you used a custom one. |
| 02:09.43 | telmac | I just didn't install the "debian desktop" option because I don't want to remove gnome |
| 02:09.48 | telmac | okay, my fault though |
| 02:10.01 | Equa | telmac: you might have done somethign else. on my laptop it's in there for me. |
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| 02:10.17 | telmac | with my /etc/network/interfaces as it is, if I use wicd or some such will it cause any fuckery |
| 02:10.47 | Equa | telmac: if you want wicd, go in and comment them out |
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| 02:11.11 | telmac | and in the future when I connect I should use wicd exclusively? |
| 02:11.29 | Equa | telmac: that's up to you. i dont' like wicd so i dont' even have it installed. |
| 02:11.44 | telmac | what do you use when connecting to different wireless networks? |
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| 02:11.58 | Equa | telmac: manually editing interfaces. |
| 02:12.05 | telmac | ...each time? |
| 02:12.18 | Equa | telmac: i dont have that many. |
| 02:12.49 | Equa | telmac: it's up to the user. use whatever is easier / best for you. |
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| 02:13.02 | telmac | sure, okay |
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| 02:19.58 | Miesco | aptitude automatically installs packages that a +'d package recommends, right? |
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| 02:21.55 | telmac | Equa: anyway, thank you very much |
| 02:21.55 | r6ku | Miesco: by default yes, you can turn that off though |
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| 02:24.02 | Miesco | r6ku: What about packages that a +'d package suggests? |
| 02:25.40 | Equa | telmac: yw |
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| 02:26.17 | r6ku | you can install those if you want, I don't know if there are options for those in aptitude |
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| 02:29.17 | Miesco | r6ku: By default, are packages that a +'d package suggests marked for install? |
| 02:29.23 | r6ku | Miesco: no |
| 02:30.17 | Miesco | r6ku: So if I set: Apt::Autoremove::SuggestsImportat "false", then I shouldn't be missing anything I would want? |
| 02:31.15 | Miesco | r6ku: Because if I go to a package I am installing, look at what it suggests, and + one of them, are they marked with the A flag? |
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| 02:40.37 | Miesco | Hope not, cause by setting that I deleted LOTS of stuff |
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| 02:47.25 | r6ku | looks like they're marked manually installed by default, well that was interesting... |
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| 03:01.02 | telmac | Equa: okay so when I boot it automatically connects, correct |
| 03:01.16 | telmac | ly, however when I close the lid it disconnects and I'm not sure how to reconnect |
| 03:01.36 | telmac | and like ip link set wlan0 up and then dhclient wlan0 is not sufficientr |
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| 03:15.18 | emunah | i just installed the education-astronomy package, how would i tell what application executables were just installed on debian jessie since it doesn't really have a drop down menu |
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| 03:18.17 | emunah | ok well i see some of the new apps in my application tiles, i just wish i could type in the word "education" or "astronomy" and have them all show up instead of guessing which ones got added |
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