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| 00:01.33 | Balduin | I use the /etc/network/interfaces script with an eth0 and an eth1 the eth1 has a static address and is started by "auto eth1" |
| 00:01.46 | edju | somiaj, Yes. But root gets mail, e.g., from apt-get, and I have KMail configured to receive mail for me from that local account. I' try giving me write perms and see. |
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| 00:02.53 | ScottE | Balduin: if you really just want to use static entries, you can force overrides (supersedes) in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
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| 00:03.27 | ScottE | Assuming you are using isc-dhcp |
| 00:03.37 | ScottE | Other dhcp clients may vary (don't know) |
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| 00:07.40 | Balduin | ScottE: it does not work for me! |
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| 00:11.07 | Balduin | Finaly i used the chattr command! |
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| 00:32.49 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 00:33.02 | neilthereildeil | i am trying to add a line to inted.conf in Deiab Wheezy |
| 00:33.05 | neilthereildeil | but i dont see that file |
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| 00:33.13 | neilthereildeil | is there a different way to do this operation in debian? |
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| 00:34.22 | Brigo | neilthereildeil, did you already install the package? |
| 00:34.34 | neilthereildeil | i basically need to forward a connection to a port on my machine to somewhere else |
| 00:34.53 | neilthereildeil | Brigo: no. is there a different preferred way to do this in debian? |
| 00:36.11 | Brigo | yes, you first have to install it, it is not installed by default. |
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| 00:36.43 | Brigo | take a look at inetutils-inetd or xinetd and install one of them. |
| 00:38.18 | somiaj | Balduin: what you should do is find what is changing the file and configure that. (: |
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| 00:40.22 | heurist | neilthereildeil: wouldn't iptables be more appropriate than inetd for port forwarding? |
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| 00:57.54 | Miesco | Hi, I am trying to set up my static ip in /etc/network/interfaces, I have 'dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1' under my static ip settings yet it does not update resolv.conf. What steps can I take to correct this? |
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| 01:01.07 | Miesco | Perhaps I should not have a static ip on a laptop? |
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| 01:01.27 | heurist | Miesco: do you have resolvconf installed? |
| 01:01.39 | Miesco | heurist: Yes |
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| 01:22.03 | dindinx | please vote choice 1 |
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| 01:24.00 | xsj | 大æ好 |
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| 01:25.15 | shaojie | hh |
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| 01:25.26 | xsj | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:40.17 | jhuber | I have a question...I've built newer mesa and libdrm packages for wheezy (64bit and 32bit), but when I try to install them both, the /usr/share/doc files conflict and dpkg errors out. How do I build/install multiarch packages so that they don't conflict? |
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| 01:41.35 | jhuber | the /usr/share/doc files conflict between 32bit and 64bit packages, I mean |
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| 01:43.12 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jhuber about force overwrite |
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| 01:54.43 | jhuber | Oh...stupid me. I built the packages at different times in different vm's, so the Changelog files *are* different, and dpkg is rejecting them. Back to building! |
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| 02:17.56 | vaxerdec | hello, i am trying to use aptitude to view changelog, but get 404 status back for months. i traced the binary and it's trying to get e.g. "/changelogs/main/libt/libtasn1-3/libtasn1-3_2.13-2+deb7u1_changelog" but when look on server, the 'deb7u1' part is not there, everything else is |
| 02:18.35 | vaxerdec | where is aptitude getting this '+deb7u1' from and how to change it? |
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| 02:19.08 | rebauld | did you use a browser and go to the dir and see what the name is? |
| 02:19.28 | vaxerdec | rebauld: yes, as i mentioned it is there, with the name less the deb7u1 |
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| 02:19.41 | vaxerdec | http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/libt/libtasn1-3/ |
| 02:19.57 | rebauld | maybe someone screwed up with the naming or in the aptitude data |
| 02:20.06 | vaxerdec | all the changelogs are there bug don't have the tag. i don't believe they are supposed to. aptitude is putting that there and it should not be |
| 02:20.19 | vaxerdec | s/bug/but/ |
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| 02:20.26 | rebauld | if all you want to do is view the log? use a browser? or get it with curl/wget |
| 02:20.37 | vaxerdec | rebauld: no, i want aptitude to work correctly |
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| 02:20.50 | vaxerdec | rebauld: i also want to understand why it's there |
| 02:21.08 | vaxerdec | rebauld: in particular, u1 was a long time ago, why is it stil using that? |
| 02:21.29 | vaxerdec | that may have been the update at the time the system was installed though |
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| 02:24.06 | vaxerdec | when i trace aptitude it's getting this string from /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_wheezy_updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages |
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| 02:24.18 | vaxerdec | in Version: field |
| 02:24.47 | vaxerdec | so, that file was either created wrong by some automated process, or aptitude does not know to strip it |
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| 02:26.12 | vaxerdec | it looks like all the packages are listed in there with a Version: field and they all have a +deb7uX where X varies |
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| 02:38.51 | vaxerdec | i guess file a bug against aptitude? |
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| 02:41.25 | THE_GFR | is there a way to cause a user to become logged into gnome via ssh? |
| 02:41.28 | nikio_ | why do i get more wifi dc's on my debian than on Windows? |
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| 02:41.43 | vaxerdec | nikio_: dc? |
| 02:41.58 | nikio_ | disconnects |
| 02:42.17 | heurist | THE_GFR: huh? maybe pam-ssh? |
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| 02:43.06 | THE_GFR | heurist: I want a specific user to login to gnome from the command-line |
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| 02:43.56 | overjoyedpulp | you can log into a terminal via ssh, not sure about gnome....you can set up vnc? |
| 02:44.10 | THE_GFR | heurist: lets say I'm not at the computer in question, I can't click on the user I want and I can't enter the passwod. I can't see the specific screen either. |
| 02:44.41 | THE_GFR | overjoyedpulp: I have the normal vino-server on it, but I cannot see the login screen that way as vino isn't active while gnome isn't logged in. |
| 02:45.54 | THE_GFR | overjoyedpulp: do you know what I mean? |
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| 02:49.26 | overjoyedpulp | THE_GFR: not really, but unfortunately other than the absolute basics of VNC i know nothing about remote desktop |
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| 02:50.21 | rebauld | THE_GFR: why not login vi ssh and then with x-forwarding you can use any gnome app on the server |
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| 02:51.25 | THE_GFR | rebauld: I NEED to see the LOGIN screen. I cannot see that, therefore I need to log a user in without being able to access the physical system. |
| 02:51.59 | rebauld | what? |
| 02:52.46 | rebauld | without being able to access the physcical system? what does that mean |
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| 02:53.51 | rebauld | i found lots on google for what you want |
| 02:53.59 | THE_GFR | I didn't find specifically what I want |
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| 03:00.46 | THE_GFR | thanks everyone |
| 03:01.00 | THE_GFR | I'll just have to figure out how to get vino to show the login screen |
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| 03:08.46 | richo | Is emdebian known broken/does it have a better palce to ask? |
| 03:09.11 | heurist | dpkg: tell richo -about emdebian |
| 03:09.20 | richo | thanks! |
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| 03:15.42 | paroneayea | hello, * |
| 03:16.07 | paroneayea | anyone presently having trouble having done a dist-upgrade on jessie and finding that gdm3 won't start for unexplained reasons? |
| 03:16.14 | paroneayea | I may be having a hard drive failure, or maybe not. |
| 03:16.35 | paroneayea | systemctl status gdm3 isn't giving any clear info |
| 03:16.36 | abrotman | did you check the logs? |
| 03:16.39 | paroneayea | yep |
| 03:16.49 | paroneayea | checked dmesg, /var/log/messages, Xorg.0.log |
| 03:16.56 | paroneayea | and the systemctl info |
| 03:16.59 | paroneayea | no clear info |
| 03:17.04 | paroneayea | best I've got: |
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| 03:18.12 | xk05 | i have had similar problems |
| 03:18.29 | paroneayea | it says "Failed to give slave programs access to the display. Trying to proceed." Not sure it's relevant though |
| 03:18.34 | xk05 | the solution i found was dont use gdm |
| 03:18.43 | paroneayea | xk05: that's not helpful ;p |
| 03:19.55 | xk05 | until its reliable, not using gdm was helpful because i had a working system afterwards |
| 03:21.00 | xk05 | it just doesnt want to get along with some system configurations? i dont know, but i've had gdm problems like that before |
| 03:21.29 | xk05 | and it turned out the answer was dpkg-reconfigure something else |
| 03:22.47 | jason1 | no |
| 03:23.33 | jason1 | was the link posted in the logs? |
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| 03:29.37 | metrix | I had 3 hard drives in LVM with my primary Debian partition mirrored. The Primary boot drive has failed. How do I get my images back across and configured to boot as the system worked before the crash? |
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| 03:33.48 | greatmenjmt | good night guys. after doing some updates on debian 7 i lost some gnome shell extensions and the hability of selec to wich workspace i want to send a windows if i clic on the tittle bar; before i was able to select wich number of workspace, now there is only 2 choices, up a workspace and down a workspace, im not sure if it was a extensión and in that case ill like to know the name so i can reinstall it, or if was just the old v |
| 03:33.51 | greatmenjmt | lost :( |
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| 03:33.55 | bramgg | I've just set/part |
| 03:34.04 | bramgg | ... forgot to clear chat box |
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| 03:38.52 | jason1 | hi |
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| 03:47.24 | jen1049 | i am having issue recently with flash. many flash components on webpages won't load |
| 03:47.39 | jen1049 | like currently a link which has a link to "Activate plugin" but it does nothing |
| 03:47.50 | jen1049 | did something happen recently? i'm using iceweasel and have flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 04:16.28 | TyrfingMjolnir | I compile quite a lot of code, how can I turn the compiled binary into a .deb for other people to use? |
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| 04:17.16 | rryoumaa | is trim necessary these days? i heard you can keep an empty partition and that is sufficient. |
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| 04:20.48 | Vizjeri | @rryoumaa you meaning swap space? |
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| 04:21.03 | rryoumaa | for any type of partition |
| 04:21.43 | Vizjeri | I always use it. Its just like virtual memory for windows systems |
| 04:21.58 | Vizjeri | you will likely need it unless you have some redic amount of ram |
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| 04:22.33 | ghormoon | Vizjeri: I think he means TRIM on SSD disk so you don't loose performance |
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| 04:23.24 | Vizjeri | Ahh yeah you are right. My bad! |
| 04:23.28 | ghormoon | and for swap, I tend to go without it on workstation when I have 8+GB :D |
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| 04:25.28 | ghormoon | rryoumaa: btw do you have any reason not to use trim? (eg. high requirements on security, so when encrypting disk you should'nt see empty space etc.) |
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| 04:27.16 | rryoumaa | ghormoon: just rather not deal with it if it is not needed |
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| 04:27.28 | rryoumaa | afaict, if you are using luks, you don't need trim for any real added security, because the only information revealed is stuff like fs type (of which there are only a few) and so on. i could be wrong. |
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| 04:27.45 | rryoumaa | but cryptsetup authors default to no trim, so dunno |
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| 04:28.18 | ghormoon | rryoumaa: trim doesn't add any security, it reveals unused blocks so you can say on what parts of disk there's real data and where not |
| 04:28.36 | nikio_ | <nikio_> hey i keep getting disconnected from the internet every now and again |
| 04:28.36 | nikio_ | <nikio_> i have an intel 3160 wifi network card, Hasell |
| 04:28.36 | nikio_ | <nikio_> i get disconnected every 15 minutes or so |
| 04:28.36 | nikio_ | <nikio_> you guys think it could be because of the debian drivers not being written correctly? |
| 04:28.36 | nikio_ | <nikio_> ill run Windows 7 for a while and see if i have the same problem, then report back |
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| 04:29.01 | rryoumaa | i meant the opposite |
| 04:30.10 | ghormoon | anyway, if you're not in that situation, I'd go for trim, I can't say how much an unused partition helps, but I'd radther set it up ... even in the worst and most lazy way (like I have :D) and only add discard to fstab |
| 04:30.52 | ghormoon | that's not most efficient way though, it's better to discard periodically, not on each delete, it slows down a bit |
| 04:31.00 | rryoumaa | well, if i did trim i'd do fstrim in cron.weekly i think |
| 04:31.17 | ghormoon | that's better aproach |
| 04:31.32 | rryoumaa | but that's getting kind of elaborate |
| 04:31.43 | ghormoon | even though personally i'd go for daily at least, just personal prefference |
| 04:31.54 | ghormoon | if you don't wanna hassle with cron, just add it to fstab |
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| 04:33.34 | ghormoon | just add option discard, for example on this machine line in fstab for me look like this /dev/hda1 / ext4 noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
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| 04:34.56 | ghormoon | I'm not sure if it's possible to add on swap space, but don't add it there, common sense says that it will be rewriting that way too often to be efficient :) |
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| 04:37.20 | ghormoon | just to make sure, you use the partitions directly? (like no crypto, lvm, ...)? if you have something like that, you'd need to allow it on these too |
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| 04:46.19 | rryoumaa | i might use luks. if so, to run fstrim i presume i have to put discard in for that. but some people say newer drives are overprovisioned enough or something and don't need trim. and some people say you can overprovision by adding a partition that you do not use. |
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| 04:47.40 | karina4 | hi |
| 04:47.42 | karina4 | hola |
| 04:47.48 | karina4 | ;) |
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| 04:48.18 | ghormoon | rryoumaa: then you'd have to verify how well is your drive without trim, I'm not sure about the partition thing, maybe that helps, but I'm not sure |
| 04:49.06 | rryoumaa | i wonder if you just use a tiny part of a partition if that is the same |
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| 04:53.09 | ghormoon | rryoumaa: I think I don't understant that sentence :) |
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| 04:53.33 | rryoumaa | instead of an unused partition, a lightly-used partition |
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| 04:53.39 | rryoumaa | is that the same? |
| 04:54.02 | ghormoon | rryoumaa: I think yes, but I'm not expert |
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| 04:59.45 | cinvoke | hello. how do i make www-data a real boy? |
| 05:00.02 | cinvoke | i added a bashrc but its not getting read |
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| 05:01.45 | ghormoon | cinvoke: what do you mean? that you want to login as that youser? It likely has /bin/false as shell, so you'll have to edit that in /etc/passwd ... anyway, why? :) |
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| 05:03.31 | cinvoke | ghormoon: i know i know. i just want to understand how. call my stubborn :) |
| 05:03.35 | cinvoke | ghormoon: www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/bash |
| 05:04.20 | ghormoon | su - www-data (from root) fails? |
| 05:04.50 | cinvoke | ghormoon: does not fail |
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| 05:05.13 | ghormoon | what's the problem then? sshing to www-data? maybe set password? :) |
| 05:05.53 | ghormoon | or what you're trying to accomplish? |
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| 05:06.33 | cinvoke | ghormoon: bashrc isnt getting executed on login |
| 05:06.52 | ghormoon | what's full path to bashrc? |
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| 05:07.30 | cinvoke | and another small issue of ssh asking for a password even though i have the right pub key configed and PubkeyAuthentication yes |
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| 05:08.06 | cinvoke | ghormoon: /var/www/.bashrc |
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| 05:08.17 | cinvoke | ghormoon: which seems right |
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| 05:08.29 | ghormoon | seems ok, owner and permissions on it? |
| 05:08.51 | cinvoke | -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data |
| 05:10.03 | ghormoon | that seems ok too ... |
| 05:10.53 | cinvoke | ghormoon: i thought so too |
| 05:11.04 | cinvoke | ghormoon: my key is in auth keys file |
| 05:11.21 | cinvoke | ghormoon: but im guessing this is connected to bashrc not being read |
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| 05:11.40 | ghormoon | I'd expect not, check /var/log/auth.log what it says |
| 05:12.14 | ghormoon | most often it's by wrong permissions (at least when I set up authorized keys :))) |
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| 05:23.35 | cinvoke | ghormoon: what causes a user's home folder to work.... like bashrc, etc? |
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| 05:54.15 | cinvoke | permissions also seem to be correct |
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| 06:19.01 | XandriX | heurist: dunno if you are still around but i messed up and now pam is broken thats why i was not able to login properly still havent figured out how to fix it yet |
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| 06:27.40 | dondelelcaro | cinvoke: ssh -v; will give you some idea of what exactly is going on |
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| 06:28.28 | dondelelcaro | XandriX: you're having trouble logging in where? |
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| 06:28.43 | cinvoke | dondelelcaro: thx! it looks like a common problem... pasted key wrong :) i knew something felt weird when i did it! |
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| 06:29.09 | dondelelcaro | cinvoke: ah; yeah, that happens |
| 06:29.45 | dondelelcaro | XandriX: common-password, et al. are in /usr/share/pam/common-*; if you want to diff to see what you might have gotten wrong |
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| 06:50.41 | towski | nevermind i was looking at the wrong proces |
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| 12:07.24 | EdePopede | hi all, pulseaudio again. did not make skype have sound, on the contrary i had no sound at all after instelling, purged the stuff (at least i thought so). sound was back, alsamixer worked. now after reboot i found out i have again no sound. worse: mplayer can't open some libpulse stuff. why? mplayer worked with alsa before, never had problems (as with pulse killing all sound). why would it still want to use alsa? |
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| 12:10.14 | EdePopede | oh, yes. "thought so". lot of pulse stuff is still there. libpulse0 (:amd64, mplayer needs it AND i386, skype needs it). dependencies are all but clear. is there maybe a graphical representation of dependencies somewhere? and again: who do i get rid of that pulse crap without reinstallang the whole system? |
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| 12:12.18 | Zharf | existejce of libpulse0 doesn't really matter and you can make mplayer use a different plugin... no clue about skype or how tightly it's coupled with pulse... |
| 12:12.35 | Zharf | I don't use pulse |
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| 12:13.16 | EdePopede | so i did (not) until i tried to give skype sound back. and now i can't make the system/mplayer/whatever use alsa again. |
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| 12:14.07 | EdePopede | where is the cfg file for mplayer that tells it what sound system to use? |
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| 12:15.49 | EdePopede | narf... bloody loudspeakers -.- |
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| 12:17.38 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning great guys ! |
| 12:17.49 | SOUL_OF_R00T | here is time to say it! |
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| 12:21.21 | SOUL_OF_R00T | guys i use debian since potato and have some pratice with small network environment but i have read some time at these days onot udr ntpd, what is a good option to substitute it? |
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| 12:21.56 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ops excuse for digitation |
| 12:22.37 | SOUL_OF_R00T | i have read about not use ntpd i need i tip about a substitute for it? |
| 12:23.28 | ChrisH | SOUL_OF_R00T: read different stuff :) What is the problem with NTP? Its widley used in Datacenter env and I see no alternative. |
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| 12:28.13 | g00se | Do i take it that prevention of shutdown while others are logged in via ssh is desktop manager specific? |
| 12:28.22 | akar | anyone can help me with svn client? |
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| 12:28.50 | akar | svn generic failure, already checked /etc/hosts there is a line 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 12:28.50 | Walex2 | SOUL_OF_R00T: there is a difference between NTP-the-protocol and 'ntpd'-the-implementation. NTP-the-protocol is essentially irreplaceable, but there are alternatives to 'ntpd'-the-implementation, like OpenNTP |
| 12:28.54 | Zharf | EdePopede, ~/.mplayer/config |
| 12:29.05 | Zharf | EdePopede, put "ao=alsa" in there |
| 12:29.18 | Walex2 | g00se: only you can answer that question :-) |
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| 12:29.56 | EdePopede | Zharf: aye, works now. i deleted it for root (i check sound after system boot, sometimes it fails init) where i don't use it otherwise |
| 12:29.57 | Walex2 | akar: which command did you get a failure to? |
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| 12:31.13 | g00se | Walex2: Why so? |
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| 12:31.41 | Walex2 | g00se: you are asking where *you* can take that as understood :-) |
| 12:32.10 | Walex2 | is often a literalist :-) |
| 12:33.28 | Walex2 | g00se: perhaps you should ask "how to prevent shutdown when other users are logged in and whether is desktop manager specific"... |
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| 12:33.47 | g00se | I'm guessing you don't know. Can anyone here answer that? |
| 12:34.07 | Walex2 | is not psychich :-) |
| 12:34.12 | Walex2 | is not psychic :-) |
| 12:34.26 | SOUL_OF_R00T | Walex2, very thanks for your explanation you help |
| 12:34.47 | ChrisH | akar: it would/could help if you show the command and error messages on paste.debian.net |
| 12:35.10 | g00se | In Wheezy xfce it used to be automatically prevented. Not in Jessie xfce |
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| 12:36.10 | Walex2 | g00se: questions about unreleased sw are best asked in #Debian-next on irc.debian.org because there are many changes between current and future releases... |
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| 12:36.54 | nikio_ | heh i added hotmail/ live accounts to Evolution and now all my emails are in the deleted folder when i login to them via the website |
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| 12:37.40 | Walex2 | nikio_: most likely because when you download the emails the client is configured to tell the server to delete them. |
| 12:37.58 | Walex2 | nikio_: so they don't get re-downloaded next time. |
| 12:38.26 | Walex2 | nikio_: this depends on whether the client uses POP3 or IMAP4 and whether it is configured to mark downloaded emails as "read" or "deleted" |
| 12:39.13 | g00se | Walex2: OK, thanks - i might try that |
| 12:39.18 | nikio_ | Walex2, I see, i cant recall chosing evolution to delete them though, that would be a silly option |
| 12:39.21 | Walex2 | nikio_: also probably people in #GNOME are more familiar with Evolution, and there may be a specific #evolution channel |
| 12:39.31 | nikio_ | Walex2, i am there but its a bit dead : p |
| 12:40.10 | Walex2 | nikio_: are you using POP3? Because POP3 by default deletes downloaded emails. |
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| 12:40.45 | akar | command is: svn list svn://172.25.149.97 |
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| 12:41.35 | akar | ChrisH: cannot show you error msg right now. I was troubleshooting my friend computer |
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| 12:41.42 | akar | my friend already gone |
| 12:41.43 | EdePopede | Walex2: is this per RFC or default setting for server/client? (in the latter case, returning to what you said before, who decides about those defaults? the debian packagers in this case?) |
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| 12:42.37 | Walex2 | EdePopede: are your referring to the POP3/IMAP4 and "read"/"deleted" thing? |
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| 12:43.28 | g00se | pop3 does not delete mail by default. It has a special command (DELE) that must be invoked by the mua |
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| 12:43.48 | g00se | gets _constructively_ literalist |
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| 12:44.48 | Walex2 | g00se: and that command is used by default, because otherwise already downloaded messages get downloaded again next time. and yes, instead of "POP3 deletes" I should have written "a typical POP3 client" |
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| 12:46.23 | g00se | It's actually normally quite simple in most MUAs to simple check 'Leave mail on server' or similar |
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| 12:46.27 | Walex2 | akar: note that whether 'localhost' is defined in '/etc/hosts' is not terribly relevant to doing a SVN protocol query to 172.25.149.97 |
| 12:46.57 | Walex2 | g00se: sure, but that "leave mail on server" in many cases results in double (or more) downloads... |
| 12:47.29 | g00se | And your only option with such minor providers as ahem ... British Telecom (who don't support IMAP) |
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| 12:48.43 | g00se | >>double<< yes, if your mua is dumb enough to download the same mail more than once |
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| 12:50.14 | Walex2 | g00se: it ought to at least *download* it. It may then discard it if the message id is the same as that of a message it already "knows", but that is not always safer. |
| 12:50.39 | eb0t | hey is vmware player run well on debian wheezy |
| 12:51.09 | jamesc | which file does the policy routing live on debian? |
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| 12:51.29 | jamesc | ip rule ... etc? |
| 12:51.38 | Walex2 | jamesc: none if you mean by "policy routing" things involving tables and source addresses etc. |
| 12:52.07 | Walex2 | jamesc: in some cases you can add pre/post commands to the relevant stanza in '/etc/network/interfaces' |
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| 12:52.13 | jamesc | where should I put it? in interfaces? |
| 12:52.24 | Walex2 | jamesc: if the policy routing is interface specific. |
| 12:52.52 | Mmike | Hola, lads. Anyone knows a trick/workaround for tail -f so that it re-opens removed file automatically? :) |
| 12:52.56 | jamesc | thats where I am confused its not interface specific? |
| 12:53.10 | Walex2 | Walex2: it can be interface specific or not. |
| 12:53.12 | Mmike | I do: tail -f /tmp/mylog.log, but when I remove/create that file, tail does not 'sense' that |
| 12:53.19 | EdePopede | wakd: indeed i do. and the differences on the defaults you pointed out between 2 debian versions. |
| 12:53.19 | Walex2 | jamesc: it can be interface specific or not. |
| 12:53.23 | g00se | Walex2: It doesn't need to, as the protocol supports header querying |
| 12:53.56 | Walex2 | jamesc: consider the comments at the beginning of '/etc/network/routes' |
| 12:54.16 | g00se | Mmike: How can it reopen it if it was removed ..? |
| 12:54.33 | Mmike | g00se: well |
| 12:54.39 | Mmike | g00se: seems that -F does what I need |
| 12:54.56 | Mmike | my RTFM-foo was lousy earlier :) |
| 12:55.27 | Walex2 | g00se: header querying does not help a lot, POP3 is half-duplex or usually implemented as half-duplex IIRC |
| 12:56.04 | g00se | Mmike: I think i get you now. Yes, that should wait until it's present again |
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| 12:56.54 | Mmike | g00se: and it indeed does :) |
| 12:57.28 | sriramr | Hi, I've debian 7.6 running. There is some strange problem on opening aterm or bash, the bash recursively starts spawning multiple instances of "bash" crashing the kernel. Any clue? (H/W HP 640 G1 Series Laptop) :-( |
| 12:57.38 | eb0t | does anyone here run vmware player on debain |
| 12:57.54 | eb0t | if so ...i thougth it was free....but looked on the site and they want money |
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| 12:58.20 | petn-randall | sriramr: How do you open bash? |
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| 13:00.00 | sriramr | petn-randall: when I run on tty1 it seems to do things fine. but I do startxfce4 & run "aterm". Things go for a toss. |
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| 13:02.41 | nabblet | hi, my computer stopped working (can't power on although it has power) so I transferred my sshd to an other (ident) computer. But I can't boot anymore. i'm right now on a live usb-stick. The sshd seems to be ok (file system ok, files are still here) so I think (re-)installing grub is the right thing. |
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| 13:04.24 | eb0t | maybe you should try and chroot into the existing system...if everyting is fine then maybe its a grub issue |
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| 13:04.38 | nabblet | now i am a bit confused. I have 3 partitions (/dev/sdaX): X=1: 24GB linux swap, X=2: 200MB FAT32, X=3: ext4 |
| 13:05.26 | nabblet | eb0t: yes, i was had chrooting in mind to. What am I supposed to do with sda2 ? do i have to mount it in the chrooted system? |
| 13:05.42 | nabblet | eb0t: as I understood this is the ESP (efi system partition) |
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| 13:06.34 | eb0t | not sure you need to mount rootfs....boot ....var ....and a few more things |
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| 13:06.56 | eb0t | but not /swap or /run |
| 13:06.58 | nabblet | eb0t: I have them all in one partition |
| 13:07.02 | eb0t | ah ok |
| 13:07.12 | eb0t | then just mount that partition |
| 13:07.20 | nabblet | eb0t:and then su chroot /mnt/foo ? |
| 13:07.31 | sriramr | petn-randall: fork bomb ? |
| 13:07.34 | eb0t | yes |
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| 13:08.17 | nabblet | eb0t: so I have to use --userspec option? |
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| 13:08.41 | rek | hi |
| 13:08.54 | eb0t | im not sure ...i always just chroot straight in |
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| 13:09.08 | eb0t | i havent used the --userspec option before |
| 13:09.19 | eb0t | maybe someone else can advise |
| 13:09.22 | nabblet | eb0t: fair enough. Ok, I chrooted |
| 13:10.14 | nabblet | eb0t: i have the expected / folders bin, boot, etc... |
| 13:10.25 | eb0t | cool |
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| 13:10.56 | eb0t | so you can go in and open files etc. |
| 13:11.10 | eb0t | may be worth copying your grub.cfg to a safe place |
| 13:11.17 | eb0t | and doing a grub-install |
| 13:11.26 | nabblet | grub-install /dev/sda ? |
| 13:11.39 | eb0t | yes |
| 13:11.50 | eb0t | if the drive in question is /dev/sda |
| 13:12.15 | nabblet | eb0t: in my chroot i don't see /dev/sda |
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| 13:12.25 | grobda24 | Hi. I am running testing/jessie. My other system always updates OK using "sudo apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade" but my main system refuses to update anything. I installed some packages manually to resolve dependencies. I usually get messages from aptitude in these kind of situations, but nothing. Any ideas ? |
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| 13:13.25 | eb0t | yes but if you did an fdisk -l from your live cd |
| 13:13.33 | eb0t | you would see /dev/sda yes |
| 13:13.56 | eb0t | prior to mounting |
| 13:14.01 | eb0t | and chrooting |
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| 13:15.12 | nabblet | eb0t: hm, something might be fishy.... fdisk -l (from live system) shows sda having only one big partition |
| 13:15.23 | nabblet | eb0t: is that related to GPT? |
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| 13:15.45 | eb0t | yes it could be |
| 13:15.49 | eb0t | try gdisk -l |
| 13:16.57 | nabblet | eb0t: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda shows me three partitions |
| 13:17.21 | eb0t | right so /dev/sda is the disk with its 3 partitons |
| 13:17.29 | nabblet | eb0t: yes |
| 13:17.42 | eb0t | i would just copy your existing grub.cfg to a safe place and then run grub install |
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| 13:17.59 | eb0t | i mean it cant really cuase any damage if you have a safe copy |
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| 13:18.12 | nabblet | eb0t: sure :) |
| 13:19.04 | petn-randall | sriramr: Yes, sounds like you've got a fork bomb somewhere in there. How do you know for sure bash starts recursively? |
| 13:19.33 | nabblet | eb0t: grub.efi too? |
| 13:19.38 | eb0t | you can also use grub -install --recheck /dev/sda |
| 13:19.45 | nabblet | eb0t: both are in /boot/grub/ of my chroot |
| 13:19.59 | eb0t | then copy them both for safety |
| 13:20.27 | dracc | Is there any good up-to-date guide on how to setup a samba share? I get 2 warnings about error -5 with my current setup before the third try to mount works. |
| 13:20.43 | eb0t | right if you have run the grub install ...i can remember if it actually does a grub-mkconfig |
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| 13:20.51 | Eliseth | Hey |
| 13:20.53 | eb0t | so you can either try and boot after umount |
| 13:21.13 | eb0t | in fact you can check to see if there is a new grub.cfg file there |
| 13:21.27 | Eliseth | Maybe a stupid question, but... How safe is it to use dotdeb repo on a production server? |
| 13:21.33 | eb0t | if you are unsure you can delete the grub.cfg |
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| 13:21.57 | petn-randall | Eliseth: You entrusting them with root access to your system. |
| 13:21.58 | nabblet | eb0t: hm, and what about /dev/sda not being visible in chroot? |
| 13:21.59 | eb0t | and run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 13:22.10 | nabblet | eb0t: as I understood I have to do all your actions from chroot |
| 13:22.19 | eb0t | yes |
| 13:22.26 | eb0t | i think /dev/sda will be found |
| 13:22.34 | nabblet | ok, ill try |
| 13:22.38 | Eliseth | petn-randall: What do you mean? |
| 13:22.46 | greatmenjmt | after doing some updates on debian 7 i lost some gnome shell extensions and the hability of selec to wich workspace i want to send a windows if i clic on the tittle bar; before i was able to select wich number of workspace, now there is only 2 choices, up a workspace and down a workspace, im not sure if it was a extensión and in that case ill like to know the name so i can reinstall it, or if was just the old version of gnome a |
| 13:23.05 | petn-randall | Eliseth: That is because packages are installed as root, and the pre- and postinstallation scripts are running as root. Do you want to do that? |
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| 13:23.36 | petn-randall | Eliseth: Do you mean from the security standpoint, or the safety one? |
| 13:23.38 | g00se | Walex2: I just notice your point about pop3 being half duplex - but don't get it ;) |
| 13:23.54 | Eliseth | I think so... The reason is that I'd like to use a nginx package that isn't available on official repo |
| 13:24.09 | Eliseth | I'm just wondering if it's safe :) |
| 13:24.40 | petn-randall | ,nginx |
| 13:24.44 | petn-randall | ,v nginx |
| 13:24.45 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security-lts: 0.7.67-3+squeeze4; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3; wheezy-backports: 1.6.0-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.2-4; sid: 1.6.2-4 |
| 13:25.02 | petn-randall | Eliseth: nginx is in wheezy, so what do you need? |
| 13:25.18 | Eliseth | ngx_pagespeed |
| 13:25.23 | nabblet | eb0t: hm, let me follow this here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing |
| 13:25.30 | nabblet | eb0t: i'll report back later |
| 13:25.36 | eb0t | cool |
| 13:25.54 | nabblet | eb0t: as I suspected /dev/sda was not found by chroot |
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| 13:26.25 | sriramr | petn-randall: Guess you are context switching between fork bomb & nginx. Well, I know for sure because I could see pstree on one aterm instance is see bash--> bash --> bash--> bash --> bash--> bash --> bash--> bash --> bash--> bash. How to work around ? |
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| 13:29.23 | Eliseth | and since dotdeb offers nginx with this module enabled I'm wondering if it's safe to use. |
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| 13:29.59 | Eliseth | If not I'm forced to compile my own, which I really don't want to do |
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| 13:35.59 | petn-randall | sriramr: Check the aterm config files, for some reason it must be spawning an instance of bash. Does it happen for any user, or only the one you're running? |
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| 13:40.22 | eb0t | ah nabblet ...let me know if you find out why the drive is not seen..thanks |
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| 13:40.37 | petn-randall | Eliseth: Check if the packages in wheezy-backports have that. I'd try to avoid dotdeb as much as possible, it'll bite you when you ever want to upgrade your server. |
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| 13:43.32 | sriramr | petn-randall: surprisingly it runs fine when run as root. Let me have a look at aterm config |
| 13:44.05 | Eliseth | petn-randall: Thanks for the feedback. I'll see if there's another way |
| 13:44.06 | jelly | sriramr: you may have weird stuff in bash rc files triggering the behaviour |
| 13:44.32 | petn-randall | Eliseth: You're welcome. |
| 13:45.23 | jelly | sriramr: see if it happens with a fresh new user |
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| 13:45.43 | sriramr | jelly: yea doing it. 10 mins |
| 13:46.01 | eb0t | has anyone installed virtual box on debian wheezy |
| 13:46.17 | jelly | also, asking in multiple channels at the same time isn't very nice to the helpers |
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| 13:47.07 | jelly | ##linux [14:45] <ananke> sriramr: so examine your dotfiles for the affected account, namely .bashrc, .profile, .bash_profile, .xinitrc, and so on |
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| 13:47.56 | sriramr | jelly: Sorry. |
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| 13:49.56 | hramrach_ | eb0t: are you experiencing any problems with vbox? |
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| 13:50.48 | hramrach_ | I think popularity contest can answer that question for you |
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| 13:52.11 | nikio_ | hey |
| 13:52.17 | nikio_ | whats the best way to install this? |
| 13:52.18 | nikio_ | http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MG_series/PIXMA_MG3550.aspx?type=download&language=EN&os=Linux |
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| 13:53.28 | jelly | nikio_: download the "debian packagefile" ones, install with dpkg -i and hope they don't break? |
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| 13:53.52 | nikio_ | jelly : < |
| 13:53.59 | nikio_ | why i have to hope ? : < |
| 13:54.14 | hramrach_ | because nobody maintains those? |
| 13:54.38 | nikio_ | does that mean on Debian one cant use simple printers/scanners like on Windows 7 without praying it wont break? |
| 13:54.42 | eb0t | hramrach...no problems ...i just wondered what the linux headers are all about |
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| 13:55.10 | eb0t | to install virtual box i need also to install linux headers ...i just dont know what they are for |
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| 13:55.47 | hramrach_ | it's not that on Windows you can install a simple printer/scanner without praying it won't break |
| 13:56.06 | hramrach_ | eb0t: probably to build a vbox kernel module |
| 13:56.21 | eb0t | ah ok ..thanks |
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| 13:56.48 | hramrach_ | the drivers for Windows are mostly not maintained either |
| 13:57.04 | jelly | nikio_: you have to hope, because: you bought hardware requiring vendor binary drivers, instead of just a .ppd file |
| 13:57.50 | hramrach_ | maybe it needs just a .ppd file but vendor prefers to impose bullshit on users. you never know |
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| 13:58.09 | drasko | hi all |
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| 13:58.56 | nabblet | hi, i am a bit confused by the EFI system partition (ESP). wikipedia says it contains boot loaders... but then what's about /boot? |
| 13:58.59 | jelly | that's certainly a possibility. Still, printers that use standard page description languages like postscript or PCL usually work better on linux |
| 13:59.32 | nikio_ | jelly, i cant open the tar.gz |
| 13:59.41 | hramrach_ | they work better anywhere |
| 13:59.41 | nikio_ | what apt-get install do i need to do |
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| 14:00.17 | jelly | nikio_: it's a compressed archive, unpack it first. There will be some .deb packages in it. dpkg --print-architecture will tell you whether i386 or amd64 packages are right for your system. |
| 14:00.25 | hramrach_ | the product page does not boast about PS or PCL compatibility so there probably is not any |
| 14:00.31 | nikio_ | jelly, i cant unpack it |
| 14:00.54 | jelly | nikio_: how does tar xvf fail? |
| 14:01.05 | eb0t | hey here is my install of virtual box ....i was just a little concerned about line 42 |
| 14:01.10 | eb0t | http://lpaste.net/113810 |
| 14:01.14 | eb0t | what do you think |
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| 14:01.27 | eb0t | so far it has started but i havent loaded anything yet |
| 14:01.40 | nikio_ | nikio_, i use gnome |
| 14:01.46 | nikio_ | jelly, i use gnome |
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| 14:02.32 | eb0t | ah line 84 seems to be successful |
| 14:02.37 | eb0t | maybe it will be fine |
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| 14:03.10 | jelly | nikio_: I don't use Gnome, sorry. Open a terminal, go to the download directory and unpack using tar xvf file.tar.gz |
| 14:03.44 | nikio_ | jelly, i did that it works.. :< but i used to be able to do it with the gnome tools.. i dont know why my gnome menus and application list is smaller than in my previous installs ; ( |
| 14:04.21 | nikio_ | jelly why do you use the terminal for such things |
| 14:04.22 | nikio_ | ? |
| 14:04.30 | Sander^s | When I issue mkinitrd -o initrd-2.6.8-3-686-smp.gz 2.6.8-3-686 from a rescuecd I get: mkinitrd: add_modules_dep 2_5: modprobe failed Fatal: module mptspi not found. WARNING: This failure MAY indicate that your kernel will not boot! but it can also be trigered by needed modules beeing compiled into |
| 14:04.30 | nikio_ | isnt the GUI easier and faster? |
| 14:04.47 | nikio_ | clicking costs less than typing |
| 14:05.49 | jelly | nikio_: not for me, also I'm paid to deal with remote systems that only have CLI |
| 14:06.00 | Sander^s | How come there is no initrd written to file? |
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| 14:06.51 | Sander^s | I'm trying to create an intrd with the sd_mod.ko and ext2 module inside |
| 14:06.54 | eb0t | command line is just pure ability ...whereas gui ....hides a lot of the skill |
| 14:07.11 | hramrach_ | clicking costs same as typing but the number of clicks to achieve the same is greater since the pointer bandwidth is much smaller compared to keyboard bandwidth |
| 14:07.22 | eb0t | ha ha |
| 14:07.41 | jelly | Sander^s: ouch. Where did you find a Debian 3.1 system anyway |
| 14:08.23 | jelly | honestly does not remember its mkinitrd any more |
| 14:08.24 | Sander^s | jelly: we have a few forgotten one i'm trying to fix up at work ;-) |
| 14:08.30 | Sander^s | ones* |
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| 14:09.56 | hramrach_ | that said if you only perform one or few tasks you can set up pointer shortcuts for it which are cheap |
| 14:09.59 | Sander^s | jelly: update-initrd probably dosnt load in the correct modules so I can boot it on new hardware. |
| 14:10.05 | nikio_ | jelly i installed the deb packages |
| 14:10.08 | nikio_ | what now ? ;s |
| 14:11.03 | g00se | nikio_: Didn't you just prove that the command line is more direct and reliable? ;) |
| 14:11.29 | g00se | .. not to mention portable |
| 14:11.52 | jelly | nikio_: hopefully you'll be able to install and configure your printer the usual way |
| 14:12.14 | nikio_ | g00se, i used the command line to do it |
| 14:12.17 | jelly | nikio_: Gnome probably has a printer preferences dialog somewhere |
| 14:13.01 | g00se | That's my point |
| 14:13.02 | jelly | Sander^s: you could try adding "sd_mod" and "ext2" to /etc/modules, and rebuild again, see if that helps |
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| 14:13.54 | jelly | Sander^s: that is, if you identified the generated initrd is missing exactly those modules |
| 14:14.46 | jelly | Sander^s: why does it fail to boot in the first place, did you migrate the installation to different hardware, did it just break one day, or what? |
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| 14:15.11 | Sander^s | jelly: thats what I did. I also Added them to /etc/mkinitrd/modules . But I got the same error message as abow. |
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| 14:18.26 | Sander^s | jelly: I did migrate it from a physical machine to our new vmware enviroment. after I did an update-grub and update-initrd I got: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0).. When I only did update-grub I got: pivot_root: No such file or directory /sbin/init: 432: cannot open dev/console: no such file.. kernel panic: attempted to kill init. |
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| 14:19.21 | Sander^s | jelly: do you know what those messages indicate? |
| 14:19.22 | jelly | Sander^s: which scsi controller did you configure for that VM? buslogic? |
| 14:20.20 | jelly | probably LSI. buslogic is older, might work better |
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| 14:20.34 | Sander^s | jelly: LSI logic, yes. |
| 14:20.47 | hramrach_ | lsi should work also |
| 14:20.53 | jelly | on woody? |
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| 14:21.05 | hramrach_ | oh, that's ancient |
| 14:21.10 | jelly | precisely |
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| 14:21.57 | hramrach_ | I don't think I tried running anything older than wheezy-1 on vmware |
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| 14:22.19 | hramrach_ | also there was a bug in the LSI emulation some time back which caused the disk enumeration to fail in Linux |
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| 14:22.45 | jelly | Sander^s: the thing is, mpt* drivers for LSI changed names at least once, maybe twice in the meantime, and I guess the "lsmod" based guesswork with that old mkinitrd doesn't really guess right |
| 14:22.58 | Sander^s | hramrach_: jelly: On sarge. |
| 14:23.10 | galex-713 | How to make PAM ask for password AND fingerprint (not one or the other, both) |
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| 14:23.34 | jhutchins | Sander^s: You did do a depmod? |
| 14:24.03 | hramrach_ | maybe try looking through the docs or mkinitrd. there was some option to just include all drivers of certain class like scsi just in case |
| 14:24.26 | jelly | Sander^s: which livecd did you boot? You could just copy its kernel and initrd :-) |
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| 14:24.48 | jelly | and its /lib/modules/.../ |
| 14:24.56 | Sander^s | jhutchins: no, never tried it. How do I do it? |
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| 14:25.27 | hramrach_ | chroot /someplace |
| 14:25.30 | hramrach_ | depmod -a |
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| 14:25.57 | Sander^s | jelly: I used the sysresccd with 2.6.35-std210-i586 |
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| 14:26.51 | hramrach_ | that should probably work well enough to get you booting and you can tell what the name of hte controller is in that kernel |
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| 14:27.39 | Sander^s | hramrach_: depmod -a 2.6.8-3-686 did return nothing. |
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| 14:28.17 | Sander^s | hramrach_: should it just work to boot now? |
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| 14:29.10 | dym | Hey - does anyone run any supermicro serverboards? I have recently purchased a machine that has a permanent beep on boot and doesnt stop. what could cause this? it's passively cooled. |
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| 14:30.06 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: then update initrams again |
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| 14:30.19 | nikio_ | i find debian less convenient than windows 7 often |
| 14:30.29 | nikio_ | you spend 1 hour to install a driver, because you need stuff like cups |
| 14:30.32 | nikio_ | what is cups? |
| 14:30.37 | Vizjeri | ^^ blasphemy |
| 14:30.41 | Vizjeri | ;D |
| 14:30.56 | hramrach_ | I find windows 7 very inconvenient |
| 14:31.16 | nikio_ | the point of using computers is to make things fast and easy.. : ) not to have to figure out how the computer works and do all the installing yourself |
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| 14:31.21 | ojaito1 | anyway, convenience has a social cost; just throwing my garbage away is more convenient than recycling |
| 14:31.33 | Vizjeri | I run both actually. Windows as the base os and my linux distros under VMs |
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| 14:31.55 | Vizjeri | @nikio then be lucky you havent tried to use arch yet |
| 14:31.59 | hramrach_ | nikio_: that's precisely why I stopped using windows. they are slow, complex, and tend to break for mysterious reasons |
| 14:32.08 | ChrisH | dpkg: please tell nikio_ aboyt smart questions |
| 14:32.08 | dpkg | ChrisH: bugger all, i dunno |
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| 14:32.14 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell nikio_ aboyt smart questions |
| 14:32.39 | nikio_ | hramrach_, come on you know whats not true, if you just use it normally, like if you want to install a printer, read a pdf, work with a text editor. its way easier and faster |
| 14:32.54 | ChrisH | !ot |
| 14:32.54 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 14:33.13 | nikio_ | ok i go to offtopic for this |
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| 14:33.27 | hramrach_ | until you find that half of the tim the PDF is rendered incorrectly on the printer and you cannot do anything about that because you are running 100% binary blob |
| 14:35.03 | hramrach_ | if you learn to pick quality printers they will work with any system easily but then the ease of Windows diminishes |
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| 14:35.47 | hramrach_ | and unlike Windows Debian can be customized to be easy for you, specifically |
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| 14:39.12 | Walex2 | hramrach_: MS-Windows can be customized quite a lot but it is much more of a black art than with GNU/Linux... That's the main difference. |
| 14:39.46 | rgr | The "main difference"? Right.... |
| 14:39.59 | Walex2 | rgr: as to customization... |
| 14:40.18 | jelly | srsly guys, #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:41.22 | Walex2 | http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Srsly_b01010_366886.jpg :-) |
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| 14:41.37 | hramrach_ | Walex2: after I have seen scanner driver fail because I was using non-default font size I do no longer believe in that |
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| 14:42.17 | Walex2 | http://pixel-breath.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/srsly.jpg |
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| 14:43.25 | Walex2 | hramrach_: at that time you should have come to this channel and maybe found help... If that referred to Debian. |
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| 14:43.42 | Sander^s | hramrach_: jelly: after the depmod -a and update-initrd sucessfully created, then I still get the kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) |
| 14:43.46 | yogg | I have a package dependency chain: A -> B -> C -> D. With "aptitude search '~RA' " I get "B". With "aptitude search '~R~RA' " I get "C". Is there a way to search all dependencys recursive? |
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| 14:44.09 | jelly | Sander^s: good, now you merely have to figure out which modules your new initrd is missing |
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| 14:44.40 | Walex2 | yogg: in a highly nonintuive and slow way probably yes. There may be an example in the Aptitude manual... |
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| 14:45.03 | ChrisH | yogg: apt-get install -s A ? |
| 14:45.13 | hramrach_ | iirc there was an option in ancient initramfs to include all scsi modules |
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| 14:45.32 | Sander^s | jelly: I figured its sd_mod and ext2.. to make the boot loader read the filesystem. Does that seems right? Where do I put those modules in? |
| 14:45.34 | jelly | this is before initramfs, I think |
| 14:45.59 | yogg | ChrisH: no I want to purge all non needed packages |
| 14:46.01 | jelly | Sander^s: you also need the correct module for the scsi controller |
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| 14:46.26 | jelly | Sander^s: I'd unpack the generated image and see what's inside |
| 14:46.40 | Walex2 | yogg: the hint that I remember is that you may need an Aptitude "function" to do that. |
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| 14:47.18 | Walex2 | yogg: I usually just do a few levels of level of '~R' |
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| 14:48.15 | yogg | Walex2: ok thx. I do the quick and ugly "~R~R~R~pimportant" ^^ |
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| 14:51.01 | Sander^s | jelly: I did cp initrd somewhere and did gunzip it. A binary file. |
| 14:51.33 | nikio_ | hey how can i add the send to option to the debian right click on file menu? I want to use evolution to send stuff per email |
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| 14:52.32 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: to find LSI drivers try something like find /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/scsi/ -type f | { while read x ; do /sbin/modinfo $x | grep LSI > /dev/null && echo `basename $x .ko` ; done } |
| 14:53.03 | hramrach_ | while chrooted to the system |
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| 14:54.03 | jelly | Sander^s: it might be an ext2 fs, or a cramfs, or a cpio archive... what does file unpacked-initrd say? |
| 14:54.04 | hramrach_ | maybe replace .ko with .o and adjust path to scsi directory for really ancient kernels |
| 14:54.53 | hramrach_ | initramfs was cpio.gz for like ages but that system is ancient :s |
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| 14:55.07 | TheWarden | Hello |
| 14:55.12 | hramrach_ | file is your friend. if it can be created on the system file should know what kind of file it is |
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| 14:55.23 | jamesc | which file does the policy routing live on debian "ip rule..." |
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| 14:56.27 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: see file(1) man page |
| 14:57.03 | Sander^s | hramrach_: awsome. Now I got 3times megaraid |
| 14:57.18 | hramrach_ | probably 3 kernel version |
| 14:57.51 | nikio_ | hey how can i add the send to option to the debian right click on file menu? I want to use evolution to send stuff per email |
| 14:57.56 | hramrach_ | now with only one module your chances aren't that good |
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| 14:58.12 | hramrach_ | but you can easily check if it's in hte initramfs |
| 14:58.32 | TheWarden | Recently new server hardware was setup with a Linux software RAID on Debian and today I received email notice of the following DegraddedArray event for /dev/md/0 and /dev/md/2, https://gist.github.com/thewarden/c41d438676df7e691d3d. |
| 14:58.40 | mtn | nikio_: drag and drop is too hard? |
| 14:58.45 | hramrach_ | nikio_: probably :) |
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| 14:59.08 | TheWarden | I'm new to using this software RAID. How does one go about fixing this? The drives are new so I can't see them being bad but I suppose its possible. |
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| 15:00.10 | jamesc | hramrach_: Hi it does not mention the file for reboot presistents? |
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| 15:00.36 | nikio_ | mtn, nope but right clicking on a file and selecting send to email is easier : ) |
| 15:00.38 | Sander^s | jelly, hramrach_: I see megaraid.ko: scsi_mod.ko (with full path's) in strings initrd.gunzipped | grep "/kernel/" | grep "megaraid" |
| 15:00.47 | mtn | nikio_: well, good luck with that |
| 15:00.51 | nikio_ | would be nice if the client then opens a window with the file attached |
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| 15:01.13 | hramrach_ | TheWarden: that means one of the disks failed or was disconnected or something or the raid was configured improperly to start with |
| 15:01.17 | TheWarden | I just added the results of running sudo mdadm -D /dev/md0, etc. https://gist.github.com/thewarden/c41d438676df7e691d3d |
| 15:01.41 | Sander^s | jelly, hramrach_ does that mean its in the initrd? |
| 15:02.05 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: it means that modules.dep is in initrd |
| 15:02.18 | hramrach_ | you need to fully unpack it or list content to see the modules |
| 15:02.27 | TheWarden | hramrach_: right so what does one do from here then? That doesn't state the drive is for sure failed/bad. Nothing was done to the system or drive. It was running fine previous to the best of my knowledge. |
| 15:02.32 | nikio_ | nautilus has a send to plugin mtn |
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| 15:02.48 | jelly | Sander^s: I'm not sure that's enough, look for mptscsih as well, if memory serves |
| 15:02.50 | nikio_ | but its a shame that it doesnt autoconfigure it at install : ) |
| 15:03.02 | hramrach_ | TheWarden: use whatever tool you used to set up the array to also determine the statud of the array |
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| 15:03.09 | mtn | nikio_: debian has nautilus, so can't you use it? |
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| 15:03.27 | hramrach_ | it shows two one-sided mirrors so there is at least 1 disk that is supposed to be there but is not |
| 15:03.31 | TheWarden | hramrach_: I used the tool built in the Debian installer. |
| 15:03.32 | jelly | Sander^s: did you figure out the image format? |
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| 15:04.51 | hramrach_ | TheWarden: presumably that's lvm |
| 15:05.03 | Sander^s | jelly: Yes. I just did: gunzip and then strings on it. |
| 15:05.25 | jelly | Sander^s: what did file say? |
| 15:05.26 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: so do file on it to determine what image you have |
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| 15:05.46 | jelly | the idea is to look at which files are there |
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| 15:05.56 | TheWarden | hramrach_: oh okay... mmm |
| 15:06.05 | Sander^s | hramrach_: jelly: ext2 filesystem on the initrd unzipped. |
| 15:06.06 | nikio_ | mtn yep, but I have to manually set these things up |
| 15:06.32 | Sander^s | how can I mount it then? |
| 15:06.56 | jelly | Sander^s: mount -o loop /path/to/file /mnt |
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| 15:07.08 | hramrach_ | jamesc: try reading on interfaces(5) and ifupdown if nobody has any quick answer. Also try stfw |
| 15:07.47 | jelly | Sander^s: do that from outside the chroot, with the more modern tools on your live image |
| 15:07.50 | hramrach_ | seems there is eg https://www.debian-administration.org/article/Policy_routing |
| 15:08.48 | hramrach_ | TheWarden: did you try pvdisplay and lvdisplay? |
| 15:08.58 | hramrach_ | also *scan might be of some help |
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| 15:09.23 | hramrach_ | also examining your log for disk errors might give you some idea |
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| 15:10.01 | TheWarden | hramrach_: no, I'm not aware of them. I've been searching on the subject online and trying to locate something in the man pages to assist in what I need to use and then how to use it. |
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| 15:10.55 | TheWarden | hramrach_: doesn't appear to be either command available. |
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| 15:11.14 | TheWarden | only tool I've used after setup has been mdadm |
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| 15:12.51 | TheWarden | hramrach_: the results I posted here are not what one needs to see, https://gist.github.com/thewarden/c41d438676df7e691d3d? |
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| 15:13.12 | frostschutz | TheWarden, mdadm --examine /dev/sd*? |
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| 15:13.36 | Sander^s | jelly: hramrach_ ah. I figured the files scsi/aic76xxx_old.ko and scsi/scsi_mod.ko is there. But not sd_mod.ko and megaraid.ko |
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| 15:16.51 | greatmenjmt | after doing some updates on debian 7 i lost some gnome shell extensions and the hability of selec to wich workspace i want to send a windows if i clic on the tittle bar; before i was able to select wich number of workspace, now there is only 2 choices, up a workspace and down a workspace, im not sure if it was a extensión and in that case ill like to know the name so i can reinstall it, or if was just the old version of gnome a |
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| 15:16.56 | TheWarden | frostschutz: ahh okay |
| 15:17.12 | TheWarden | here is the results of the mdadm --examine /dev/sd*, https://gist.github.com/thewarden/c41d438676df7e691d3d. |
| 15:17.39 | Sander^s | jelly, hramrach_ I even added sd_mod.ko and megaraid.ko in /etc/modules and /etc/mkinitrd/modules.. but still the initrd dosnt contain those. |
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| 15:18.16 | Sander^s | jelly, hramrach_:after update-initrd |
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| 15:18.30 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: there is some file like /etc/initramf.conf which lists extra modules |
| 15:18.31 | Sander^s | or do I need to depmod -a too? |
| 15:18.34 | TheWarden | mmm the state is all clean |
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| 15:19.31 | TheWarden | array state however is .A which isn't good I don't think as that refers to active yet missing. |
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| 15:19.35 | Sander^s | hramrach_: i'm using update-initrd and not update-initramfs |
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| 15:19.46 | usr3 | im trying to connect my nexus 7 table to my jessie workstation via usb. I can see the tablet is at /dev/sda5 how do i mount it? |
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| 15:20.30 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: something like that. you need to look up exact options in the man page for your ancient tool. not available easily anywhere but your system, sorry |
| 15:20.39 | usr3 | i ran file on the tablet but it doesn't show the file system |
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| 15:21.40 | Sander^s | hramrach_: I got told I need to use mkinitrd if I want to add modules. |
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| 15:24.24 | hramrach_ | then look in its man page to see where it is ocnfigured |
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| 15:25.27 | usr3 | im trying to connect my nexus 7 tablet to my jessie workstation via usb. I can see the tablet is at /dev/sda5 how do i mount it? file doesn't show the file system |
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| 15:26.13 | hramrach_ | usr3: it's very doubtful that tablet is /dev/sda5 |
| 15:26.23 | usr3 | ah, okay |
| 15:26.26 | hramrach_ | possibly you may need to enable USB transfer on the tablet |
| 15:26.47 | ChrisH | usr3: nexus 7 should need MTR filetransfer as its expected to have Android 4.4 |
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| 15:27.43 | hramrach_ | never had a problem with transferring files to my tablet but I use adb |
| 15:27.44 | ChrisH | usr3: so starting nautlius and looking for something like Nexus would be the easiest way to do it. (I love CLI tools but I do not use the mtptools stuff there!) |
| 15:27.48 | Sander^s | jelly: hramrach_ but the problem is that mkinitrd -o initrd.test 2.6.8-3-6-smp gives an error. mkitinitrd: add_modules_dep_2_5 modprobe failed.. FATAL: Module mptspi not found. WATNING: This failure MAY indicate that your kernel will not boot! But it can also be triggered by needed modules beeing compiled into the kernel. |
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| 15:27.56 | usr3 | the tablet works on windows 7 automatically |
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| 15:28.07 | usr3 | ah okay, thanks i'll try that |
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| 15:28.16 | ChrisH | usr3: thats for sure as MTP is a microsoft developed protocoll :) |
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| 15:28.24 | frostschutz | TheWarden, you gave sdb* but sda* is missing ... |
| 15:28.29 | hramrach_ | usr3: adb is not recommended unless you know exactly what you are doing |
| 15:28.38 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell usr3 about mtp |
| 15:29.15 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: that means that you have a typo in the module name |
| 15:29.43 | frostschutz | TheWarden, sda* will tell you when it failed (update time), then you can check your logs to see what happened at that time. you can also check smart data, and if it's nothing horrible you can just re-add them and see if it works or what |
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| 15:32.18 | TheWarden | frostschutz: oh opps, I didn't mean to do that... here it is update https://gist.github.com/thewarden/c41d438676df7e691d3d. |
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| 15:33.20 | jelly | Sander^s: is there a mptscsi.* somewhere in /lib/modules/2.6.8-3-686-smp, instead? |
| 15:33.34 | jelly | Sander^s: sorry, make that mptscsih.* |
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| 15:34.48 | TheWarden | frostschutz: also I forgot to mention that these two drives in the server are SSDs. Not sure if this was a good idea using SSDs but that's the situation I'm in :-). |
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| 15:35.59 | Sander^s | jelly: hramrach_ : I only have megaraid, ext2 and sd_mod in there.. those exists. |
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| 15:36.19 | Agemaniac | hello all :) |
| 15:36.21 | Sander^s | jelly: hramrach_ : mptscsih.ko exits |
| 15:36.24 | TheWarden | frostschutz: okay, what log would such a thing be logged into? I'll check messages again and daemon but I swear I never saw anything :-). |
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| 15:37.10 | Sander^s | its drivers/message/fusion/mptscsih.ko |
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| 15:37.25 | jelly | Sander^s: do a silly thing: copy mptscsih.ko to mptspi.ko, run depmod -ae, then try rebuilding initrd |
| 15:37.58 | Agemaniac | im trying to install propetary video driver for debian, i have a "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller" but in the intel page they only have for ubuntu / fedorra, i wanted to know if its possible to use the ubuntu driver in debian... anyone knows? |
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| 15:38.30 | jelly | Agemaniac: what does the full lspci -nn line for that device read? |
| 15:39.06 | Agemaniac | jelly 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0416] (rev 06) |
| 15:39.18 | Sander^s | jelly: didnt work. |
| 15:39.22 | Sander^s | same message. |
| 15:39.26 | jelly | meh |
| 15:39.35 | jelly | Sander^s: did depmod work without errors? |
| 15:39.38 | Sander^s | mptspi not found. |
| 15:40.01 | Sander^s | jelly: there is no such initrd created when I do that. |
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| 15:40.13 | Sander^s | When I mkinitrd |
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| 15:40.27 | jelly | judd: xorg 8086:0416 |
| 15:40.28 | judd | Device 8086:0416 is not matched by any xorg drivers in wheezy or sid. |
| 15:40.35 | jelly | judd: pciid 8086:0416 |
| 15:40.36 | judd | [8086:0416] is '4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:0416 |
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| 15:40.52 | frostschutz | TheWarden, so it failed Sep 25, 14:12:34... anything in your syslogs for that? anything in smartctl -a? if not just mdadm /dev/mdx --re-add /dev/sdax and see if it syncs or not. provided your data on /dev/mdx is still fine of course |
| 15:41.06 | Sander^s | jelly, hramrach_ : I dont know how to use mkintird. |
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| 15:41.54 | Sander^s | I tried with mkinitrd -o initrd.gz 2.6.8-3-686-smp |
| 15:42.01 | Agemaniac | jelly, this is the download page for the intel drivers, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads |
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| 15:42.40 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: I don't know either. mkinitrd is no longer in Debian |
| 15:42.46 | jelly | Agemaniac: that looks like a recent haswell cpu, try using xserver-xorg-video-intel package from wheezy-backports |
| 15:42.57 | jelly | !tell Agemaniac -about bdo xorg |
| 15:42.59 | jelly | !tell Agemaniac -about bdo kernel |
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| 15:43.22 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone does anyone know how to make vino-server show the gdm login screen? |
| 15:43.28 | jelly | Agemaniac: best not to use packages made for ubuntu. |
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| 15:44.25 | TheWarden | frostschutz: crap it was that long ago... ahh no logs here that old. looking |
| 15:45.22 | Agemaniac | jelly, xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version. But still games run quiet slow :/ |
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| 15:45.46 | TheWarden | frostschutz: nothing in the latest syslog and syslog.1. I don't have such a command as smartctl. |
| 15:46.00 | Agemaniac | jelly, fyi, im using jessy o_0 |
| 15:46.28 | jelly | Agemaniac: oh, then you already have the latest or nearly latest from debian |
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| 15:47.03 | Sander^s | hramrach_: jelly: It looks right according to: http://www.opennet.ru/docs/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO-11.html |
| 15:47.19 | frostschutz | TheWarden, it's in smartmontools, which you should use anyway (set up smartmond to send you mail on disk errors) |
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| 15:47.34 | TheWarden | frostschutz: I'll try to re-add but sda* is fine its sdb* that is the problem. So I ran "sudo mdadm /dev/md2 --re-add /dev/sdb3" and I received back "mdadm: Cannot open /dev/sdb3: Device or resource busy". |
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| 15:47.37 | jelly | Sander^s: is there an update-initrd or mkinitramfs command instead? |
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| 15:48.13 | frostschutz | TheWarden, no, the other way around. your /dev/md* are currently running with sdb and sda is missing |
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| 15:48.47 | Agemaniac | ow... i guess ill be stuck with my slow games then... thanks jelly :) |
| 15:49.00 | Agemaniac | thats sucks though :/ |
| 15:49.10 | Sander^s | jelly: Yes. I have update-initrd (but the man page dosnt say anything about how to decide which modules to have). I dont have mkinitramfs |
| 15:49.12 | TheWarden | frostschutz: oh I'll have to look into that tool and get it installed. Never heard of it. Sounds like something that would be quite useful. |
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| 15:50.11 | jelly | Sander^s: so why not transplant kernel and initrd and modules from the livecd you booted |
| 15:50.14 | TheWarden | frostschutz: Oh, am I miss reading this then. I thought under Array State: .A, means its missing and active. AA means its active array. Just trying to understand how to read this. |
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| 15:51.26 | Sander^s | jelly: How do I do that? |
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| 15:52.18 | frostschutz | TheWarden, in --examine, the sda metadata says AA because at the time it got kicked, both drives were active. and since it got kicked the metadata no longer changed, so it still says AA. but it's outdated information (see Update time for the date). sdb sees one missing and one active, and the active is itself (role 1) so sdb is working and sda is not. you also see this directly in the mdstat, it |
| 15:52.19 | frostschutz | only lists sdb |
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| 15:52.40 | jelly | Sander^s: copy the kernel and initrd into /boot, copy /lib/modules/whatever/ into /lib/modules/ inside chroot, reconfigure the boot loader |
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| 15:56.53 | AnimalFarmPig | Hi. There are like a dozen different ftpd's listed in the package index. Is there one that's most recommended to use? |
| 15:56.59 | AnimalFarmPig | I suppose I could check popcon |
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| 15:57.47 | qman__ | I most recommend not using FTP |
| 15:57.48 | jelly | AnimalFarmPig: recommended: not use ftpd at all, use ssh's SFTP service instead. IF you absolutely must, vsftpd |
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| 15:58.12 | AnimalFarmPig | I'm not transferring super secure stuff here |
| 15:58.18 | jelly | doesn't matter |
| 15:58.19 | AnimalFarmPig | vsftpd, cool |
| 15:58.32 | AnimalFarmPig | why shouldn't I use it? |
| 15:59.13 | jelly | !ftp must die |
| 15:59.13 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
| 15:59.47 | jelly | the rant is a bit outdated in places, but most of the stuff applies |
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| 16:00.50 | qman__ | Outdated? FTP is outdated |
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| 16:02.01 | jelly | qman__: I mean, some of the points got fixed. There are extensions for ssl these days. |
| 16:02.16 | qman__ | Also, glad that's on the bot |
| 16:02.24 | qman__ | The extensions are dirty hacks exactly as the rant suggests |
| 16:02.36 | qman__ | As are the NAT workarounds |
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| 16:02.38 | jelly | noone disputes that. |
| 16:03.11 | DammitJim | I have set up an ACL on a folder for the backup user (rwx) recursively; however, when I log on as that user, I can' view the files |
| 16:03.20 | DammitJim | is there something else I need to have set up on the parent folder? |
| 16:03.29 | AnimalFarmPig | So, I want a secretary to be able to drag and drop some data onto a network share, and to be able to distribute a link with username and password to some remote users so that they can download some small documents. Seems like setting up SAMBA and a simple ftpd would be the most straightforward way to do it. I'm not looking to build big enterprise secure document storage and distribution system |
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| 16:03.47 | Burps | Hi. I'm trying to setup iptables with v4 and v6 in the same file, as found here : https://gist.github.com/jirutka/3742890. I've created my file, loaded with iptables-restore, but only v4 rules have been loaded : did I misundertand ? Should I also run ip6tables-restore on the same file ? |
| 16:04.12 | qman__ | AnimalFarmPig: http is far better suited for the download part |
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| 16:04.29 | AnimalFarmPig | we're talking about kb's of data |
| 16:04.34 | qman__ | Yes |
| 16:04.54 | qman__ | The http will always work without special software |
| 16:05.07 | qman__ | You can use http basic auth or a web app |
| 16:05.21 | jelly | and https isn't hard to set up |
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| 16:06.04 | AnimalFarmPig | I really don't think anyone is sniffing our network, nor do I think they care too much about the blank 'new hire' form |
| 16:06.07 | qman__ | And you can enable or disable dir indexes as you like |
| 16:06.16 | qman__ | Irrelevant |
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| 16:07.00 | qman__ | http is better in every case for downloads |
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| 16:09.02 | AnimalFarmPig | I don't know. For http, I'd need to set up authentication and add an entry in our reverse proxy. For ftp I can just aptitude install an ftpd, add a user, and open a port |
| 16:09.12 | AnimalFarmPig | seems like it's less work |
| 16:09.15 | AnimalFarmPig | which is better for me |
| 16:09.17 | qman__ | No, it isnt |
| 16:09.19 | jelly | AnimalFarmPig: well, "remote users" and "our network" isn't really the same thing |
| 16:09.35 | qman__ | Setting up http auth is trivial, easier than ftp |
| 16:10.24 | qman__ | Why do you need a reverse proxy for http, but opening ftp ports is ok? That's a totally backward policy |
| 16:10.27 | jelly | you can open a NAT port for https, too |
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| 16:11.46 | AnimalFarmPig | reverse proxy to run multiple applications and domains on single IP. And, no, I'm not going to bother with https. I'm not paying for a cert, and I'm not going to take phone calls when users get warnings about self signed cert |
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| 16:12.11 | jelly | startssl is free but requires changing every 12 months |
| 16:12.16 | qman__ | But you're ok with phone calls about FTP? Because you will get them |
| 16:12.53 | AnimalFarmPig | "click the link ftp://ftp.mydomain.net/somefiles put in username X and password Y" seems easy enough |
| 16:13.02 | qman__ | It isn't that simple |
| 16:13.07 | qman__ | Http is, ftp is not |
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| 16:14.20 | qman__ | Passive or active mode, ascii or image data types |
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| 16:15.01 | jelly | current clients do figure out most of that by default |
| 16:15.08 | AnimalFarmPig | Microsoft .docs |
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| 16:15.18 | qman__ | Some do, some dont |
| 16:15.23 | AnimalFarmPig | since windows sets file type by file extension, shouldn't matter |
| 16:15.35 | qman__ | That's not relevant either |
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| 16:15.54 | jelly | AnimalFarmPig: but hey, now you know what the best current practice is, feel free to use or ignore it |
| 16:15.56 | qman__ | I'm talking about the actual FTP connection |
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| 16:16.42 | jelly | qman__: the interesting thing is all the cheap routers and firewalls know how to conntrack active ftp. passive, not so much :-) |
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| 16:16.57 | Shadow` | IIS sucks with passive too |
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| 16:17.11 | AnimalFarmPig | yes, if I were in enterprisey environment, perhaps I would hire you as consultant to implement best practices. |
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| 16:17.42 | jelly | it's not rocket science -- local samba for upload, remote http for download |
| 16:17.52 | qman__ | Choosing to use a known broken solution over a known good one is never a good idea |
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| 16:18.11 | qman__ | At any scale |
| 16:18.13 | jelly | doesn't have anything more to add, moving on |
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| 16:19.04 | Sander^s | jelly: hramrach_ some how mkinitrd worked now. it created a "linux compressed ROM Filesystem data".. file. Dont know how to uncompress it. |
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| 16:20.16 | TheWarden | frostschutz: I believe that has fixed it. It's rebuilding right now and I think I know what caused it as well that long ago and never thought about it. |
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| 16:20.23 | TheWarden | frostschutz: thanks so much for the help. |
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| 16:22.01 | jelly | Sander^s: pastebin your ls -la /boot/ please |
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| 16:23.43 | jhutchins | I think that's the most insidious aspect of raid - no notification when a drive fails, so people think it's protected but it's not. |
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| 16:24.19 | chipsnpie123 | hi |
| 16:24.20 | Walex2 | jhutchins: 'mdadm' can run as a daemon to watch over that... |
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| 16:24.53 | chipsnpie123 | i need some help with linux, anyone available to help? |
| 16:24.53 | Sander^s | jelly: the .new generated mkinitd is 4812800 (non-compressed probably) in size. the old one 1593448 in size (compressed). |
| 16:25.02 | jamesc | Hi using post-up in interfaces for me does not work. it add no rule |
| 16:25.06 | jhutchins | Walex2: _can_. |
| 16:25.09 | Walex2 | jhutchins: the insidious aspect of RAID is the false selse of security given by parity... |
| 16:25.31 | jhutchins | Walex2: Yep. I've seen more controllers fail than drives. |
| 16:25.39 | Sander^s | jelly: worth to try to reboot I guess:) |
| 16:25.41 | Walex2 | jhutchins: a lot of people seem to think that probably of failure is no dependent on number of drives... |
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| 16:25.49 | jhutchins | Walex2: Last one we lost the battery was bad, and the disk that failed was the one with the config. |
| 16:26.04 | jelly | Sander^s: sure, why not |
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| 16:26.31 | hramrach_ | Sander^s: it's a special filesystem. something like cramfs and dramfs-tools or something |
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| 16:26.38 | Walex2 | jhutchins: ahhhhhhhhhhhh a lot of hw RAID host adapter cards are really terrible. The firmware is often written by the lowest bidder... |
| 16:26.38 | chipsnpie123 | i am unable to view fonts such as Ã, Ã, and Ã
on mp3 files. However VLC displays them fine when i play them. How can i fix this |
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| 16:27.21 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: that's a really complicated topic. your report is rather confused as a result. |
| 16:27.38 | brentaarnold | In Debian Wheezy (backports enabled) with MATE, how does one remove an application from the applications menu? |
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| 16:28.04 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: what does "unable to view fonts such as Ã, Ã, and Ã
on mp3 files" mean? What command do you use to "view"? |
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| 16:28.54 | chipsnpie123 | in the command promt or in a graphical file manager. They appear as black triangles with a question mark. When i click on a mp3 vlc displays the whole song tittle propery |
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| 16:29.17 | ChrisH | chipsnpie123: I deciced not to use these characteters in ID3 tags. Each player assumes different charset. If my mobile player shows them correct the player inside the car does not... |
| 16:29.44 | chipsnpie123 | it displays correctly on android, jst not on linux |
| 16:29.45 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: then most probably VLC is buggy. |
| 16:30.14 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: the command prompt and the file manager are probably doing the right thing, according to how you have configured your system. |
| 16:30.22 | hramrach_ | brentaarnold: if the menu uses the standard menu system find a file in /usr/share that ends in .desktop and has the text you see in the menu written in it and move the file away |
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| 16:30.53 | hramrach_ | if you want that persistent I guess you could use dpkg redirect |
| 16:30.53 | chipsnpie123 | is there no way i can alter a setting to display these characters in a filemanager? |
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| 16:31.16 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: the issue is that probably your system is configured to use an ISO8859 charset with 8 encoding and the filenames use a UNICODE charset with UTF-8 encoding. |
| 16:31.31 | chipsnpie123 | i have already changed that but to no avail |
| 16:31.34 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: or viceversa. |
| 16:31.39 | chipsnpie123 | it is set to en us utf-8 |
| 16:32.14 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: what is set to "en_US.UTF-8"? |
| 16:32.21 | chipsnpie123 | my locale |
| 16:32.39 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: to be sure plase run: locale | pastebinit |
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| 16:32.59 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: so we can check it |
| 16:32.59 | hramrach_ | chipsnpie123: also note that there is file name and file id3 tag which may be slightly different and different programs might use one or the otehr to refer to the song |
| 16:33.08 | chipsnpie123 | yes i have done that, everything is as it should be |
| 16:33.20 | chipsnpie123 | am i missing a font package mayby? |
| 16:33.46 | hramrach_ | if it displays *somewhere* then not |
| 16:33.50 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: if you know better, why do you ask questions? Note that "en us utf-8" is not a valid locale setting... |
| 16:34.13 | chipsnpie123 | sorry to be rude, i dont know better |
| 16:34.39 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: I asked you to show the locale settings because the exact spelling of the locale setting matters... |
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| 16:35.00 | chipsnpie123 | ok |
| 16:35.10 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: so first we need to check that. Then if they are right, we need to tell you to logout and login. |
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| 16:35.41 | chipsnpie123 | http://pastebin.com/svYwzrW9 |
| 16:35.49 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: if the locale spellings are spelt wrong, the libraries default to the "C" locale, which would cause what you see. |
| 16:36.30 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: the "us" should be upper case... |
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| 16:37.02 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: ah it is in upper case, my browser font made me see it in lower case |
| 16:37.14 | chipsnpie123 | yep. |
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| 16:37.33 | chipsnpie123 | i have also logged out and in and run locale-gen, still no luck |
| 16:37.45 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: your locale settings seem right, including the "C" for "LC_COLLATE" |
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| 16:38.33 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: wait a sec for a test |
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| 16:39.58 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: what does this display: unicode -i UTF-8 U+00E6 |
| 16:40.25 | chipsnpie123 | what do you mean? |
| 16:40.52 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: run that command please |
| 16:40.56 | chipsnpie123 | k |
| 16:40.58 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: and this one: unicode -i ISO8859-1 U+00E6 |
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| 16:41.53 | Walex2 | they should display either æ (Ã) or � (�) |
| 16:41.54 | chipsnpie123 | unicode: command not found |
| 16:42.09 | Walex2 | install it... |
| 16:42.18 | chipsnpie123 | ok |
| 16:42.27 | Walex2 | apt-get install unicode |
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| 16:47.58 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: still there? |
| 16:48.05 | chipsnpie123 | ye |
| 16:48.14 | chipsnpie123 | the command does not work |
| 16:48.21 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: which one? |
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| 16:48.31 | chipsnpie123 | install unicode |
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| 16:49.01 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: 'apt-get install unicode' fails? That's very strange |
| 16:49.41 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: what does 'apt-cache policy unicode' say? |
| 16:49.52 | Walex2 | chipsnpie123: what does 'apt-cache policy unicode | pastebinit' say? |
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| 16:57.44 | Brigo | I admire your patience, Walex2 |
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| 16:58.18 | Walex2 | Brigo: sometimes :-) |
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| 16:58.59 | Walex2 | BTW another useful test that perhaps I should have used instead is: echo -e '\xc3\xa6' |
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| 17:01.51 | Ox17 | ive installed debian on my netbook, while playing youtube videos fullscreen it starts to lag a lil, are there any graphic settings i could make to get a smoother video-playback? |
| 17:02.14 | Walex2 | "netbook" and smooth video? Uhnmmmmmmmmmm :-) |
| 17:02.47 | jelly | Ox17: are your youtube videos playing in flash or html5? |
| 17:02.58 | edoardo | Walex2: i could watch 1080p youtube videos on my netbook without problems |
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| 17:03.52 | jelly | Ox17: right-click on the video, should mention either HTML5 or Flash somewhere in the context menu |
| 17:04.04 | Walex2 | edoardo: that's quite lucky... |
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| 17:04.44 | Walex2 | edoardo: in most case the problem is the graphics driver. If X is using the 'vesa' driver it will be not so good |
| 17:05.11 | edoardo | Walex2: i used a realtime kernel and xfce, though |
| 17:05.12 | Walex2 | edoardo: in your case probably the graphic chip was good and the right driver was selected. |
| 17:05.47 | jelly | Ox17: if it's Flash, try using chromium instead. If you're already using chromium or it's not any better, try installing and using Google Chrome |
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| 17:06.55 | Walex2 | Ox17: and whichver of the two, make sure your X is not using the 'vesa' driver or one of the '*fb' ones. |
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| 17:10.42 | jhutchins | Ox17: local or streamed? |
| 17:10.46 | jamesc | fyi I needed to reboot the box adding post-up stuff to interfaces. not sure why |
| 17:11.11 | jelly | jhutchins: noone has local youtubes, it's all in the cloud! |
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| 17:11.24 | jelly | well. I guess Google has local youtube. |
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| 17:11.59 | jhutchins | I have local youtube. Download the video. It's an important test to see if it's network or video. |
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| 17:16.12 | Walex2 | jamesc: probably you just needed to bring the interface down and up again. |
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| 17:17.00 | Ox17 | jelly: on flash videos, only when fullscreen is enabled |
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| 17:17.31 | Ox17 | Walex2: ok i will check it |
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| 17:21.27 | Milos | Any idea? https://bpaste.net/show/37232590ebb9 |
| 17:21.53 | leeroh | hey, I'm trying to install a wheezy from a USB drive |
| 17:22.14 | leeroh | except when I do my manual partitioning it doesn't do anything and spews me back to the menu |
| 17:22.18 | leeroh | is this a known issue? |
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| 17:22.50 | rsmith_ | Is #debian-next supposed to be invite only? Can anyone join? Or did I spell it wrong? |
| 17:23.26 | mtn | leeroh: how did you make the usb installer? |
| 17:23.48 | ScottE | rsmith_: wrong server? That's on oftc not freenode |
| 17:24.05 | leeroh | i don't remember exactly, but I think I made it with UNetBootin or some shit in Windows 7 |
| 17:24.17 | rsmith_ | ScottE: thanks! I knew I was doing something wrong |
| 17:24.24 | leeroh | I have successfully installed from it on this machine |
| 17:24.31 | mtn | leeroh: that is no doubt the problem: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 17:26.39 | Ox17 | Walex2: the framebuffer device is running + no vesa driver |
| 17:27.26 | leeroh | mtn: you're positive there's no doubt there? |
| 17:27.40 | mtn | leeroh: how could I be positive? |
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| 17:27.57 | leeroh | well you said there's no doubt)) |
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| 17:28.08 | mtn | leeroh: ok. you can sue me if I am wrong :P |
| 17:28.09 | leeroh | thanks anyway, I'll look into it |
| 17:28.34 | leeroh | but unless my memory is failing mi miserably, I've had successful installations from this stick on this same machine ) |
| 17:28.38 | leeroh | me* |
| 17:29.57 | mtn | leeroh: pretty easy to make a new installer using the approved method and then test it to see |
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| 17:30.32 | leeroh | sure |
| 17:33.41 | Ox17 | lets see if chromium runs better |
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| 17:39.20 | EdePopede | hello again :) |
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| 17:40.07 | zifxify | Found a nice guide to configure jessie like xubuntu http://www.slideshare.net/LinuxThemer/xubuntu-with-a-pure-debian-base-from-scratch and in combination with this http://mralphaville.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/xfce-in-september/ time to update my laptop :) |
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| 17:40.47 | EdePopede | this time a question regarding mounting at boot time. / ist mounted twice, as rootfs und via the UUID (*shiver*). how or why does this happen? and would it be a problem to umount the UUID? the output of df is horrible with those :( |
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| 17:41.15 | abrotman | try it and find out |
| 17:41.48 | dominik | hey debian experts, I just set up a brand-new sid system with two partitions, an unencrypted /boot ext3 partition, and an encrypted btrfs root partition |
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| 17:42.07 | Ox17 | lol, why is chromiums flash faster then firefox/iceweasel? |
| 17:42.15 | dominik | after updating to the newest kernel and grub2, however, I cannot load the encrypted btrfs root partition anymore |
| 17:42.25 | dominik | any hints, on what I have to change in my grub config? |
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| 17:42.41 | mtn | Ox17: it is way more up to date |
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| 17:43.27 | Ox17 | ive heard chromium isnt that secure as firefox, and trying to send as many data it can collect from you |
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| 17:44.25 | bluesceada | Ox17: there is "chrome" and "chromium", however I don't know how much googleized chromium still is.... |
| 17:45.16 | EdePopede | it may work this time, what does not mean that ius ia generally a good idea |
| 17:45.22 | bluesceada | hmm in this regard ... chromiums flash should be opensource right? cant that be ported to firefox in some way? |
| 17:45.32 | EdePopede | * that it is... |
| 17:45.51 | mtn | bluesceada: since when has flash been open source? |
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| 17:46.20 | bluesceada | mtn: adobes flash hasn't, but chromium is supposed to be only the opensource part of chrome |
| 17:46.23 | LIERO | mtn, I installed successfully, it wasn't the way the stick was written) |
| 17:46.23 | bluesceada | so I wonder if flash also is |
| 17:46.25 | zifxify | fuck flash long live to html5 player |
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| 17:46.50 | mtn | bluesceada: chromium uses a newer version of Adobe flash, from Adobe ;) |
| 17:46.56 | mtn | LIERO: glad you got it going |
| 17:47.01 | abrotman | bluesceada: Flash is not open source, gnash and lightspark are |
| 17:47.14 | bluesceada | abrotman: i know that flash from adobe isn't opensource |
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| 17:47.33 | centrx | bluesceada, Google's PepperFlash is in non-free in Debian |
| 17:47.46 | bluesceada | i thought chromium comes with a opensource flashplayer (or however you want to call it to be generic to "not adobes flash"), *maybe* |
| 17:47.48 | centrx | bluesceada, It download's Google's Chrome and extracts it |
| 17:47.52 | abrotman | bluesceada: the API for pepper is OSS, but it's an API for Flash AIUI |
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| 17:48.22 | bluesceada | centrx: oh ok, thanks, that is the information I asked for :-) |
| 17:48.31 | rzr_ | test |
| 17:48.59 | rzr_ | How to install adobe flash player on debian |
| 17:49.21 | bluesceada | interesting, i dont have that installed, I thought I have working flash in chromium, but it seems to be html5 on websites that somehow don't work with html5 in firefox |
| 17:49.29 | bluesceada | rzr_: it is not supported anymore on linux |
| 17:49.58 | rzr_ | Is there any alternatives for adobe flash in debian |
| 17:50.15 | rzr_ | i mean in linux platform . |
| 17:50.16 | bluesceada | rzr_: it seems the "pepperflash" from google's chrome |
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| 17:50.34 | bluesceada | which you can get from pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 17:50.44 | bluesceada | and is supposed to work in at least chromium |
| 17:50.49 | rzr_ | So how do i install pepper flash on google chromium.? |
| 17:50.51 | abrotman | rzr_: yes, gnash and lightspark |
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| 17:51.27 | rzr_ | gnash , lightspark , pepperflash Which is better. ? |
| 17:51.32 | bluesceada | do gnash and lightspark work sufficiently good? i.e. do they work on youtube? |
| 17:51.41 | abrotman | rzr_: pepper is adobe flash |
| 17:51.47 | abrotman | but totally non-free |
| 17:52.03 | abrotman | bluesceada: supposedly, though, html5 works for youtube also |
| 17:52.03 | rzr_ | how to install pepper flash . |
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| 17:52.13 | Ox17 | pepper flash? wth |
| 17:52.18 | bluesceada | abrotman: last time I checked it didnt work really well in firefox, hm |
| 17:52.30 | bluesceada | but in chromium it did ok |
| 17:52.31 | centrx | !pepperflash |
| 17:52.31 | dpkg | Pepper Flash Player is a proprietary <flash> plugin included with the Google Chrome web browser. The pepperflashplugin-nonfree <contrib> Debian package (in <testing> and <wheezy-backports>) can be used to install this plugin for the <Chromium> browser. https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer |
| 17:52.33 | abrotman | rzr_: setup non-free sources, aptitude update;aptitude search pepper |
| 17:52.37 | bluesceada | and other websites might use other flash-based players... |
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| 17:52.47 | rzr_ | i want some kind of flash games to be worked on chromium. |
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| 17:53.03 | Ox17 | yeah i kinda like chromium, but iceweasel will always rock.. :P |
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| 17:53.27 | wols | rzr_: for that pepperflash is probably the way to go |
| 17:54.35 | rzr_ | somebody pls tell a way to do install pepper flash. |
| 17:54.55 | bluesceada | apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree ...? |
| 17:55.12 | bluesceada | but needs jessie repositories |
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| 17:58.36 | wkd | I have iredmail running with certs working, yesterday I edited sites-enabled and added listening for 443 on each virtual host now I'm no longer able to log into example.com/mail or example.com/iredadmin locally... but can access it remotely... anyone know what would cause this? |
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| 17:59.23 | eto | hello |
| 18:00.01 | eto | anybody friendly enough to explain to me what is actual difference between ubuntu-server and debian? |
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| 18:00.20 | wkd | apache error log says [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) 'example.com' does NOT match server name!? |
| 18:00.56 | centrx | eto, Generally they are similar, but Ubuntu likes to add extra things in |
| 18:01.10 | centrx | eto, Ubuntu is also on a different release cycle, so sometimes their release will be newer |
| 18:01.19 | centrx | eto, Corporate support contracts |
| 18:01.26 | jhutchins | eto: ubuntu-server is a version of ubuntu that includes pacakges you'd run on a server and is less desktop oriented than regular ubuntu. Debian is a different distribution. |
| 18:01.27 | eto | centrx hmmm |
| 18:02.00 | eto | currently i am using arch for personal linux thigs |
| 18:02.01 | jhutchins | Debian includes both desktop and server packages. |
| 18:03.26 | eto | but i am thinking it would be not that great idea to have that on server - without some buffer repo in between (which i never got myself to try) - that would also mean i have to manage all the packaging changes which might be somewhat unexpected on arch |
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| 18:04.33 | eto | but given systemd is coming for sure i would at least like to make use of that |
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| 18:06.28 | eto | so i learned there is (with systemd) centos (which wants to install lot of things i don't care about and unless told insist on graphical updates), ubuntu-server (no systemd yet) and debian (jessie seems to have systemd) |
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| 18:07.34 | eto | now it seems to me that most barebone is debian of those am i right? |
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| 18:08.02 | centrx | eto, Debian is generally more customizable, minimizable so you can strip it down more |
| 18:08.16 | DammitJim | +1 centrx |
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| 18:08.35 | DammitJim | but it's funny... Debian as a desktop, I still have ended up installing a bunch of packages just to get certain software to work |
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| 18:09.17 | EdePopede | minimizable... i missed on option during install to select packages or groups thereof (i don't really have a need for office, but mc is crucial) |
| 18:09.34 | DammitJim | MC? |
| 18:09.35 | eto | so if i want to at least somewhat experience leannes i am used to with arch debian is what i should be looking at? |
| 18:09.39 | EdePopede | midnight commander |
| 18:10.08 | DammitJim | I would say, your chances are pretty high by using Debian |
| 18:10.53 | fireant | eto: I think Debian is stronger on ethical free as in freedom, while Ubuntu leans more towards corp's politics .. |
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| 18:11.14 | eto | okay i have no high expectations about computing security - but i am pretty curious how secure debian is in actual use? |
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| 18:11.38 | EdePopede | there's also been discussion on the desktop search they implemented or what it was (privacy stuff iirc) |
| 18:11.47 | eto | for example does it provide grsec ? pie executable? |
| 18:11.48 | jelly-home | eto: if you're running the current release, it's as secure as other major distros |
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| 18:12.24 | EdePopede | what about su vs. suexec? |
| 18:12.25 | jelly-home | eto: no, and no (I think _some_ of the packages are built as PIE) |
| 18:12.41 | eto | jelly-home: well given i won't be using only 'free' components unlike 'nvidia' it would be nice to have grsec |
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| 18:13.23 | eto | jelly-home: oh and maybe you know of debian derivative which is aiming for grsec/pie? |
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| 18:14.10 | jelly-home | eto: https://wiki.debian.org/SameKernel#grsecurity |
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| 18:14.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I have a windows system that can only SSH into my linux box. Every single other system on the network windows or other can access the server on HTTP and SMB without issues. Ideas? |
| 18:14.23 | eto | jelly-home: ty |
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| 18:15.34 | jelly-home | grsec people recommend building your own kernel but... ain't nobody got time for that |
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| 18:16.26 | Ox17 | hm it doesnt take soo much time compiling an own kernel, for my first kernel i spend a night ^^ |
| 18:16.28 | EdePopede | THE_GFR|WORK: said windows box, is it on an other subnet than those others machines? are there restrictions for http/smb access on ip ranges? maybe on iptables? |
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| 18:18.14 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: I changed nothing. One second it worked, the next second it failed. |
| 18:18.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: I can ping the server and I can access the server via SSH |
| 18:18.52 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: every other machine on the network can access the server fine. |
| 18:18.54 | eto | jelly-home: well i am pretty normal user, but on freebsd i had to build a lot till pkg arived now i rebuild just certain packages, but it's true on arch rebuilding kernel become tiring pretty quickly |
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| 18:19.15 | EdePopede | did you try to telnet it on port 80? (i just love telnet, sry *g*) |
| 18:19.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: I'm pretty sure it's not active. I can try. |
| 18:19.36 | eto | jelly-home: last thing i woul like to know is whether it's relatively easy to create packages |
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| 18:20.04 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: not active. |
| 18:20.31 | jelly-home | eto: decide for yourself, read: /msg dpkg nmg |
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| 18:20.38 | eto | jelly-home: i managed to create some for things i care on arch, that experience be transferable to debian? |
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| 18:20.43 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: what next? |
| 18:20.46 | Psy-Q | our PHP guys had some trouble with the php5 upgrade that came through security, specifically php5-odbc. it seems there is no way to see the bugs reported for the old version that's in wheezy and the current one (from security) on bugs.debian.org? |
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| 18:21.03 | jelly-home | eto: unlikely |
| 18:21.04 | eto | jelly-home: thank you very much |
| 18:21.07 | wucf | isn't there an official unstable live image? |
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| 18:22.01 | EdePopede | THE_GFR|WORK: telnet is not active (i just remembered it has to be activated on windows iirc?) or httpd doesn't respond? |
| 18:22.19 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: telnet isn't active on the server. |
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| 18:22.32 | eto | jelly-home: i mean the package building system sure is different but same procedures apply - program is compiled then installed into chroot and packaged into package right? |
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| 18:22.55 | EdePopede | THE_GFR|WORK: would it be a problem to activate it? |
| 18:23.09 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: no, SSH should be fine though? |
| 18:24.16 | Psy-Q | it's this one that's causing problems: https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3064, where could i look at bugs reported for that version (the latest one available on bugs.debian.org for wheezy is 5.4.4-14+deb7u14) |
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| 18:24.30 | jelly-home | eto: if you're doing it the Right Wayâ¢, it's not like that, but the build scripts do compiling, installation into a temporary subdirectory, and creating binary packages all on their own |
| 18:24.59 | EdePopede | THE_GFR: telnet connects to whatever port you like, replacing if you want every client with text-only protocol (mail, irc, mail, it works all) as long as you connect to the matching port. ssh just shows you that ssh is working. |
| 18:25.24 | eto | jelly-home: yeah that is what i meant |
| 18:25.52 | eto | jelly-home: thanks for the pointers |
| 18:26.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: every other computer on the network can access http and smb and ssh without issues |
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| 18:28.00 | EdePopede | THE_GFR|WORK: if ping works it sounds like some firewall/iptables stuff to me, may be on each of both machines. |
| 18:28.25 | EdePopede | did ou reboot that windows machine and if, did it work afterwards? |
| 18:29.20 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: firewall is off on my windows box. I'll restart the server and see what happens |
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| 18:30.00 | EdePopede | ouch, i hope you don't kill a good uptime |
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| 18:30.26 | Resilience | hello to everyone |
| 18:31.00 | Resilience | wahts boxer used for? https://wiki.debian.org/Boxer (used for is it right?) |
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| 18:36.33 | wucf | are there official live images of Debian unstable or only stable and testing? |
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| 18:39.12 | dondelelcaro | wucf: only stable, actually. |
| 18:39.27 | dondelelcaro | wucf: you can install testing or unstable directly from the install media, though. |
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| 18:41.18 | wucf | dondelelcaro: testing images do also exist |
| 18:41.31 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: rebooted the server lets see if it's working now |
| 18:41.52 | EdePopede | *crossing fingers* |
| 18:42.02 | wucf | dondelelcaro: it's just that I need ffmpeg in a live image at the moment. I will just use another distro for this in a VM. |
| 18:42.32 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: still messed up. Remote vino isn't working properly still no web access. |
| 18:42.47 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: vino will let me type in a password and attempt to connect but fails |
| 18:43.05 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: error waiting for server message |
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| 18:43.29 | EdePopede | what's vino? |
| 18:44.12 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: vino-server you know gnome remote desktop? |
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| 18:44.43 | EdePopede | ah, adding server to vino brings much better search results :) |
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| 18:46.39 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: yea it works on other machines just not this weird windows one... looking like a windows issue to me. |
| 18:46.56 | THE_GFR|WORK | one I can't figure. |
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| 18:47.11 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: otherwise it's my system getting blacklisted? |
| 18:47.14 | EdePopede | any other windows machine in the network? and that one works? |
| 18:47.24 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: yes other windows machines work fine. |
| 18:47.40 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: could the server be blacklisting my system somewhere? |
| 18:47.53 | EdePopede | @ blacklisted? this is not happening in a lan? |
| 18:48.06 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: this is happening on my LAN |
| 18:48.14 | EdePopede | possibly, iptables, is there an entry concerning that machine? |
| 18:48.23 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: I don't know. |
| 18:48.28 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: how do I check? |
| 18:48.34 | EdePopede | iptables -L |
| 18:48.44 | THE_GFR|WORK | sec |
| 18:49.27 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: nothing in iptables |
| 18:49.48 | EdePopede | so opening a connection to port 80 SHOULD work |
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| 18:50.42 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: yep but my windows machine can't connect to the server on port 80 it can only SSH |
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| 18:51.07 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: well and ping the server |
| 18:51.10 | EdePopede | maybe the problem is on THAT machine. some protection software running? |
| 18:51.29 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: yea ESET NOD32 Antivirus, that's also on the server... hmm |
| 18:51.32 | EdePopede | i fyou can SSH i think ping should work (unless blocked *g*) |
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| 18:51.48 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: ping and SSH ork |
| 18:51.52 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: work |
| 18:51.58 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: must be my windows machine |
| 18:52.18 | EdePopede | something in the logs of the NOD? |
| 18:52.24 | THE_GFR|WORK | no |
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| 18:53.05 | EdePopede | on win i always had the sysinternals suite :) |
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| 18:57.28 | Resilience | what does it means this? -> Boxer is a tool for system deployment and for composing blends, i.e designing how to have a distribution unfold onto boxes. |
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| 18:59.00 | jhutchins | EdePopede: Can you connect to port 80 on localhost (on the server)? |
| 18:59.29 | EdePopede | i don't have a httpd atm , but in the past it worked |
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| 19:00.21 | jhutchins | EdePopede: If you don't have an httpd what are you connecting to? |
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| 19:03.30 | EdePopede | jhutchins: you're leaving me back with a big question mark over my head |
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| 19:04.53 | jelly-home | Resilience: out of all that I only remember a "pure blend" was basically a debian installer with a customized set of packages |
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| 19:06.01 | jelly-home | !blend |
| 19:06.01 | dpkg | A Debian Pure Blend (formerly Custom Debian Distribution) is a subset of Debian configured to support a particular target group out-of-the-box. Not to be confused with distributions <based on Debian>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends http://blends.debian.org/ #debian-custom on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:06.12 | Resilience | jelly-home, thaks, why can't people wirte things that are self-explicative? |
| 19:06.35 | jelly-home | Resilience: geeks like slang, what can I say |
| 19:06.40 | Resilience | and what is a "distribution unfold ito boxes"? |
| 19:06.53 | jelly-home | clueless |
| 19:06.59 | Resilience | yeah, but it is asuburb slang. not a technical slnag man |
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| 19:07.45 | jelly-home | try asking in that there channel (nb, it's not on this irc network) |
| 19:08.01 | Resilience | waht's a box? what is a distribution unfolded? |
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| 19:08.11 | Resilience | ah, in what channel? |
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| 19:08.39 | jelly-home | the one dpkg wrote about, above |
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| 19:09.26 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: no idea but my connection is essentially dead |
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| 19:09.52 | Resilience | jelly-home, I'm going to do that, that was a good advice, thanks |
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| 19:26.54 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: I'm rebooting and I'll try with a linux live disc to see if the issue is related to my computer or not |
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| 19:31.18 | jhutchins | EdePopede: So what is it you're actually trying to do? |
| 19:32.37 | jhutchins | EdePopede: Ah, I see I have once again crossed nicks. |
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| 20:18.16 | wwat | i'm able to boot live distributions that i've made with the "pen drive linux" tool, but i'm completely unable to boot installations. i don't understand what i'm doing wrong |
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| 20:18.51 | wwat | whenever i try to boot an installation, it's like trying to boot an empty drive |
| 20:18.54 | wwat | suggestions? |
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| 20:23.30 | TomasCZ | wwat, is that how you call unetbootin ? |
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| 20:25.03 | wwat | TomasCZ: i haven't tried unetbootin. the tool i'm using from pen drive linux does the exact same job, doesn't it? |
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| 20:25.39 | TomasCZ | Anyone knows why if I use paravirt with Xen booted DomU appears to be grub of Dom0 searching for lvm? |
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| 20:26.09 | TomasCZ | wwat, no idea, I know the one I mentioned. |
| 20:26.56 | wwat | ok well pen drive linux works fine. i use it to make live / installation usb disks. it's the linux installations that refuse to boot.. |
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| 20:28.50 | shingouz | !tell wwat about usb install |
| 20:28.59 | shingouz | maybe that helps |
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| 20:31.27 | wwat | shingouz: k.. i'm reading. but i don't have any problems booting from images from a usb drive |
| 20:31.29 | wojtas | hi i have a problem with ldapsearch it's displayind memberof like " member:: nQQUy5dgYT5QeWEqnBHLqk464wNJYWjfcFDTDnA8yBdbLODo5wYCgtNtZobD==" no normalny "memberof: cn=joe..." |
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| 20:31.49 | wwat | it's when i install from a usb drive to my hard drive (or another usb drive) that i can't boot |
| 20:31.51 | wojtas | how can make it display normalny |
| 20:32.23 | shingouz | wwat: so you have a problem when you install grub |
| 20:32.52 | wwat | shingouz: yeah maybe. the installation seems to go fine though. i don't get any error messages |
| 20:33.45 | wwat | shingouz: during installation i get a screen similar to this http://doudoulinux.org/blog/public/screenshots/install/install-grub-or-not.png |
| 20:33.58 | wwat | shingouz: then i choose yes |
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| 20:35.18 | TomasCZ | did you try to remove install media, change BIOS boot settings to use disk? |
| 20:35.30 | wwat | TomasCZ: yes |
| 20:36.12 | shingouz | if the grub installer does not barf errors at you, it should work. what happens at first boot? |
| 20:36.17 | TomasCZ | what about system in question. UEFI ? |
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| 20:36.49 | wwat | shingouz: after the usual BIOS stuff, the screen goes completely black except a flashing underscore (_) at the top left of the screen |
| 20:37.08 | aswen | hi, running testing, I wonder how I can disable my powerbutton. (my daughter hit it by accident this morning, no big problem but very annoying) |
| 20:37.36 | aswen | so I've disabled the shutdown command in /etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support |
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| 20:38.03 | somiaj | aswen: depends what you mean disable it, you can probabaly disable the event of it being hit causing the computer to shutdown, but you probabaly can't override the hold it down for 5 seconds to hard power it off efefct |
| 20:38.03 | aswen | I removed that action from /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn-acpi-support |
| 20:38.33 | aswen | restarted acpid and acpi-support |
| 20:38.53 | shingouz | wwat: that does sound like there is some problem with the grub install. i suspect that either it does not install on the correct drive or that your boot order in the bios is somehow screwed up |
| 20:39.16 | aswen | somiaj: yes, I want to override the event. the 5 seconds (or whatever timeout it is) is ok for me |
| 20:39.43 | wwat | shingouz: at the point of installation, i only have two drives: the usb stick i'm installing from, and the drive or hdd i'm installing to |
| 20:40.18 | somiaj | aswen: that sounds like the correct thing to do. I personally wouldn't mess with the actual .sh script, but just the event. You can probabaly just delete that event or change the action to echo |
| 20:40.20 | wwat | shingouz: after installation, i remove the install media and make sure that the only thing in the boot list is the drive with the new installation |
| 20:40.20 | aswen | I just want to change the action on the powerbutton to nothing, or maybe sleep |
| 20:40.34 | somiaj | aswen: i.e. action=/usr/bin/echo |
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| 20:40.40 | wwat | shingouz: i've also tried to manually select the drive to boot from. same thing |
| 20:40.48 | aswen | somiaj: I tried /bin/false |
| 20:41.00 | aswen | can try echo as well |
| 20:41.08 | somiaj | aswen: well I would do /bin/true -- forgot about those I was trying dev |
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| 20:41.20 | somiaj | aswen: you want a 0 exit code, else acpi might try to do somethign else |
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| 20:41.38 | aswen | but, I even commented the whole script /etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh |
| 20:42.03 | aswen | still, my laptop shuts immediately when I hit the button. |
| 20:42.06 | TomasCZ | aswen now that testing has systemd, when I wanted to change closelid action I had to find the right file. |
| 20:42.10 | wwat | TomasCZ: i don't know.. i've tried both UEFI and legacy mode |
| 20:42.21 | aswen | good point, will do true |
| 20:42.29 | shingouz | wwat: are you absolutely sure you are installing grub on the correct drive |
| 20:42.46 | TomasCZ | aswen, /etc/systemd/logind.conf ? |
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| 20:43.41 | wwat | TomasCZ: shingouz: well since there's only one drive except the installation drive, i assume linux is smart enough to install it on the correct one when i choose "yes" at this point http://doudoulinux.org/blog/public/screenshots/install/install-grub-or-not.png |
| 20:43.44 | aswen | TomasCZ: ohh, I just added i3lock to /etc/acpi/lid.sh and now my screen is locked before sleep, love that |
| 20:44.14 | shingouz | wwat: you have uefi on the thing? is it in "secure boot" mode? |
| 20:44.19 | aswen | but I didn't look in /etc/systemd/logind.conf |
| 20:44.27 | aswen | let's see... brb |
| 20:44.49 | wwat | shingouz: yes i have uefi. my system does not have the secure boot option |
| 20:45.17 | TomasCZ | Q: Anyone knows why if I use paravirt with Xen booted DomU appears to be grub of Dom0 searching for lvm? |
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| 20:46.12 | shingouz | wwat: i have never played with uefi myself ye so my knowledge is very very limited. seee what dpkg told you, maybe there is some answer? |
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| 20:46.58 | wwat | shingouz: yes i read it. i'm aware of it. i don't have the secure boot option, so that isn't a problem |
| 20:47.38 | velocd | i hate uefi such a pain |
| 20:47.39 | shingouz | hmmm... as i said, i am beginning to be at the end of my line here, i have not played with uefi so far |
| 20:48.08 | wwat | shingouz: ok. i also tried legacy btw |
| 20:48.41 | aswen | well... |
| 20:49.04 | aswen | I is gonna try the big red button in a minute... so, if I leave... |
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| 20:49.13 | aswen | the button still works ;-) |
| 20:49.29 | shingouz | i have a very vague recollection that i have bumped into some webpage somewhere that mentioned a similar problem. on samsung laptops iirc. no idea where, though :s |
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| 20:50.28 | TomasCZ | loves how aswen solves problems :D |
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| 20:51.03 | aswen | ghegehe |
| 20:51.19 | aswen | but now it doesn't work anymore |
| 20:51.36 | wwat | shingouz: TomasCZ ok well thanks for your help.. i'll try some more although i don't understand anything at this point.. |
| 20:51.45 | aswen | I was too lazy to investigate wether I should reload systemd or not |
| 20:51.52 | aswen | you have to ;-) |
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| 20:52.01 | TomasCZ | no problem, perhaps you can help solve myne... :D |
| 20:52.12 | aswen | so TomasCZ thanks for the systemd tip! |
| 20:52.16 | shingouz | wwat: let me try googling up the page i was talking about. give me a few minutes |
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| 20:52.41 | aswen | I would have never guessed that myself |
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| 20:52.49 | wwat | shingouz: ok. i'm also googling like a madman.. |
| 20:53.01 | TomasCZ | aswen, no problem it was bugging me recently too. Gladly I figured out myself where to look for some reason. |
| 20:53.23 | aswen | TomasCZ: need to know what you need to solve than |
| 20:53.30 | TomasCZ | Q: Anyone knows why if I use paravirt with Xen booted DomU appears to be grub of Dom0 searching for lvm? |
| 20:53.31 | wojtas | <TomasCZ> Q: Anyone knows why if I use paravirt with Xen booted DomU appears to be grub of Dom0 searching for lvm? do you find out the answer ? |
| 20:53.55 | TomasCZ | err, how many bots is in here? |
| 20:54.14 | wojtas | TomasCZ: show config of dom0 |
| 20:54.18 | wwat | shingouz: the black screen with the blinking underscore apparently signals corrupted boot data. same for both linux and windows |
| 20:54.40 | wojtas | TomasCZ: and domU |
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| 20:55.23 | wojtas | TomasCZ: when do you get error? did you copy initrd form base system ? |
| 20:55.31 | aswen | TomasCZ: I would have loved to help you but my last experience with Xen is over ten years ago |
| 20:55.33 | TomasCZ | wojtas, config of dom0 ? which file? cuz there is no cfg for dom0. debian testing Xen-4.4 used xen-tools |
| 20:55.58 | TomasCZ | my last exp with xen if also few years back, and needless to say with stable. |
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| 20:57.04 | shingouz | wwat: are you trying to make a dual-booter out of it with windows already installed? |
| 20:57.21 | wojtas | TomasCZ: ok show config domU, and did you copy initrd from base system ? |
| 20:57.28 | wwat | shingouz: no, just linux. i let the linux installation partition the drive etc. |
| 20:57.53 | TomasCZ | I've used xen-tools pkg command xen-create-image with --pygrub and without. No error from that. After booting machine either can't find rootfs or can't find lvm(that is used with dom0) |
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| 20:59.41 | wojtas | hynmn do yuo have some files /etc/xen ? |
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| 21:00.11 | THE_GFR|WORK | EdePopede: no change yet. Still messed up on the windows side. |
| 21:00.39 | Leoneof | hi, i'm using ufw to block/deny all connections by default, now i want to allow only firefox to use internet connection, Firefox is located in specified path like /home/x/firefox/firefox, how to do it? |
| 21:00.41 | wojtas | in my config file i got uuid = "64bcbd4d-832f-2592-08b8-673cbabce13c" and bootloader="/usr/bin/pygrub" |
| 21:00.43 | shingouz | wwat: care to elaborate on what exact computer and version of debian you are to make work together? |
| 21:00.48 | wojtas | TomasCZ: up |
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| 21:01.32 | TomasCZ | wojtas, that is no longer valid with newer xen. if you try bootloader='/usr/bin/pygrub' I have no uuid there |
| 21:01.42 | wwat | wojtas: dell latitude e6510 and um, i've tried a bunch of different distributions... one of them was debian-7.7.0-amd64-DVD-1 |
| 21:02.21 | wojtas | TomasCZ: you suprrise me :) |
| 21:03.28 | wwat | shingouz: ^ |
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| 21:04.04 | wojtas | TomasCZ: i have no idea, i did use xen4.4 |
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| 21:04.08 | PryMar56 | wojtas, dryrun test pygrub on your lvm: sudo pygrub -q /dev/VG/LV |
| 21:04.22 | wwat | shingouz: apparently it doesn't matter what distribution i try to install... it's something with the boot stuff that goes wrong |
| 21:04.38 | DammitJim | OMG, so happy that geeqie is back on Debian testing! |
| 21:04.38 | wojtas | TomasCZ: yeee PryMar56 is right |
| 21:04.39 | LIERO | ,v gqrx-sdr |
| 21:04.39 | judd | Package: gqrx-sdr on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 2.3.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.3.1-2; sid: 2.3.1-2 |
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| 21:05.22 | wojtas | TomasCZ: you cat test the pygrub in xen :) i hope that doesn't change :P |
| 21:05.39 | wojtas | PryMar56: thx for tip :) |
| 21:05.44 | TomasCZ | wojtas, PryMar56 I will try that. debootstrap running again. |
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| 21:06.05 | PryMar56 | wojtas, sorry I didn't see the OP |
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| 21:08.55 | wojtas | TomasCZ:hymnmm debootstrap .. it's can be the fault |
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| 21:09.36 | shingouz | wwat: looks like it. still trying to find the elusive bit of info. hang on tight (and do not hang you just because the laptop does not like you) |
| 21:09.49 | shingouz | s/you/yourself/ |
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| 21:10.24 | wwat | shingouz: ok thanks. i'm also still googling |
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| 21:24.25 | TomasCZ | wwat, PryMar56 https://paste.debian.net/130454 |
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| 21:26.43 | TomasCZ | I also don't know why If I said directly that disk should be sda (--scsi) config file uses that. but I see in console xvda1 |
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| 21:33.41 | cafuego | TomasCZ: That's what the xen domUs use. |
| 21:34.27 | jhutchins | wwat: You did install it to the root of the drive, not the partition, right? |
| 21:35.03 | shingouz | wwat: i cannot find it now and i need to get some sleep pretty soon. keep looking, the googling shows that debian is installable. i'll try some more googling sometime tomorrow |
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| 21:36.19 | wwat | jhutchins: i think so, i'll get some screenshots to show what i did during installation |
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| 21:36.35 | wwat | shingouz: thanks for your help. don't bother if i'm not back tomorrow. i probably will be though |
| 21:37.12 | shingouz | don't worry, i live here |
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| 21:44.31 | Leoneof | :| |
| 21:45.36 | jhutchins | wwat: No screenshots needed. Either you installed to /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 or the equivalent. If you did the latter, that's the problem. |
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| 21:46.01 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 21:46.01 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
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| 21:47.26 | dju` | hi! On squeeze, no way to boot with a luks-encrypted /boot? |
| 21:47.47 | Vizjeri | good post dpkg. Just had to do this yesterday on my VM |
| 21:48.07 | somiaj | dju`: are you trying to install squeeze, and if so why not just use wheezy? |
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| 21:48.39 | dju` | somiaj: i'm trying to encrypt an existing squeeze install |
| 21:48.41 | jhutchins | Vizjeri: dpkg is our resident FAQ-bot. |
| 21:49.09 | somiaj | dju`: ahh I wouldn't know. But with squeeze-lts support being very limited I'd still suggest just upgrade to wheezy |
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| 21:49.21 | dju` | ok |
| 21:49.25 | copec | under gnome 3.14.1 network manager, is there a place to set a dns search suffix anywhere? |
| 21:49.40 | dju` | somiaj: too bad, this system is otherwise running very well ;p |
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| 21:50.11 | somiaj | dju`: yea, and squeeze-lts will give you okay security support for the next few years provided you don't use packages they aren't suporting. |
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| 21:51.00 | dju` | sure |
| 21:51.18 | somiaj | dju`: http://www.maddes.net/software/luks.htm#preamble looks like you can do it on squeeze |
| 21:52.00 | somiaj | seems they tested what they are talking about as far back as etch |
| 21:52.01 | Vizjeri | @jhutchins. Hahah didnt know. Thanks for the headsup |
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| 21:52.50 | jimmy51v_ | is there a good UI tool that can be used to make custom packages? (deb files) |
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| 21:53.37 | wwat | jhutchins: i installed grub this by selecting "yes" at this point: https://i.imgur.com/VeIa2d2.jpg |
| 21:54.16 | somiaj | jimmy51v_: what do you mean by UI tools? look at debian helper (usually abrivated dh) it contains a collection of tools to help with creating debian packages. |
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| 21:55.54 | wwat | jhutchins: also i selected this option and let the linux installation take care of the partitioning http://docs.kali.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/mini_iso_3.png |
| 21:59.54 | jimmy51v_ | somiaj: thanks |
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| 22:02.51 | Lady_Aleena | Is there something I have to set up to get the other 4GB out of 8GB of memory recognized by my system? I was told I needed PAE, but I already have it. So, I must have missed a setup step somewhere to get the other 4GB seen. |
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| 22:03.55 | Lady_Aleena | It looks like pulseaudio, amarok, and iceweasel can eat up nearly 4GB of memory fast. |
| 22:03.59 | centrx | Lady_Aleena, uname -a ? |
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| 22:05.43 | husonet | hello |
| 22:06.17 | husonet | How to libopencv-core2.4.install file |
| 22:06.30 | husonet | How to install libopencv-core2.4.install file |
| 22:07.44 | centrx | husonet, apt-get install libopencv-core2.4 |
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| 22:08.02 | TomasCZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.22 | TomasCZ | ? |
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| 22:09.13 | husonet | I use Debian Wheezy |
| 22:09.22 | Lady_Aleena | Linux office 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:09.29 | husonet | centrx E: Package 'libopencv-core2.4' has no installation candidate |
| 22:09.52 | husonet | I superuser |
| 22:09.57 | centrx | husonet, It seems to be only in testing/unstable/next release of Debian |
| 22:10.15 | husonet | yes |
| 22:10.20 | centrx | husonet, stable has libopencv-core2.3 |
| 22:10.21 | husonet | mkdir release |
| 22:10.27 | husonet | cd release |
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| 22:10.35 | husonet | and cmake |
| 22:10.37 | husonet | make |
| 22:10.41 | husonet | make install |
| 22:10.44 | husonet | dont problem |
| 22:10.55 | husonet | but cd ../debian |
| 22:10.55 | centrx | eh? |
| 22:11.02 | husonet | ls -alh |
| 22:11.11 | husonet | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21 Nov 5 21:53 libopencv-ts-dev.docs |
| 22:11.11 | husonet | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 76 Nov 5 21:53 libopencv-ts-dev.install |
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| 22:11.42 | husonet | Not install libopencv-2.4 |
| 22:12.13 | centrx | Lady_Aleena, and free doesn't show 8GB after reboot? |
| 22:12.23 | Lady_Aleena | nope |
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| 22:12.36 | husonet | centrx I want libopencv-core2.4 |
| 22:12.41 | centrx | Lady_Aleena, Is the other 4GB plugged in? |
| 22:12.47 | Lady_Aleena | centrx, yes. |
| 22:12.54 | centrx | husonet, You can try a source-backport from testing/unstable |
| 22:12.58 | centrx | dpkg, tell husonet about ssb |
| 22:13.14 | husonet | yes try but empty backports |
| 22:13.44 | centrx | husonet, right no backport, so you would have to do the other numbered items |
| 22:13.56 | Lady_Aleena | centrx, why don't you concentrate on husonet's problem. I'll go vacuum the house. |
| 22:14.20 | centrx | husonet, This is like the compilation you are doing, except it is from a pre-made Debian source package that should work better |
| 22:14.28 | centrx | Lady_Aleena, I am a robot |
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| 22:15.03 | husonet | I installed git clone git://anonscm.debian.org/debian-science/packages/opencv.git |
| 22:15.04 | TomasCZ | wwat, PryMar56, cafuego Oke, when I do cat /proc/partitions only xvda1 is listed. |
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| 22:17.12 | husonet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:21.59 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
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| 22:22.11 | neilthereildeil | I am running Xen on Debian as Dom0 |
| 22:22.24 | neilthereildeil | how can i connect the serial port of one VM to the serial port of the other? |
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| 22:25.31 | neilthereildeil | any ideas? |
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| 22:25.50 | heurist | dpkg: tell neilthereildeil -about crosspost |
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| 22:29.28 | civillian | is there a simpler ALSA? |
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| 22:31.15 | joan | hi, any samba experts here? linux box sharing two different dirs; one is seen by the win7 box and the other isn't; both have the same config, shown at http://pastebin.com/EdZtKqhh (NOTE: /srv/samba/share in that post is just a placeholder)) Any ideas that can explain this weird behaviour? I guess that the problem is win7 related. There's anything I can do to wipe out or reset networking on the win7 box apart from the non-working reboot? |
| 22:31.40 | joan | BTW, user "nobody" has also been added to group "users" |
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| 22:34.49 | sakang | what is this freerdp* ? all of a sudden vlc is broken without it |
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| 22:37.11 | L337hium | i may have the same problem as in https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-kernel@lists.debian.org/msg95319.html stated. after a recent update i cant load the kernel module tun/tap. i'm trying to load the module manualy. |
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| 22:38.20 | L337hium | from dmesg: tun: Unknown symbol ipv6_proxy_select_ident (err 0) -- after `modprode tun` as root |
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| 22:41.12 | cynicallemon | joan: both shares aren't called "SHARE" are they? |
| 22:41.42 | joan | of course, cynicallemon each one has its own name, as I said |
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| 22:42.23 | cynicallemon | can you post both shares to pastebin, one isnt helpful |
| 22:42.36 | joan | (BTW I don't have physical access to the network at the moment) |
| 22:44.04 | joan | cynicallemon, both are exactly the same, each one, with its own different path, that's the annoying thing, one is working but the other doesn't |
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| 22:45.24 | cynicallemon | joan: you said the share paths are different but is the actual share name different too? |
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| 22:46.19 | joan | from the win7 box, the linux server is detected and both dirs are shown, but when you double-click to one of them (the non-working one) a window pops-up saying that the dir couldn't be found |
| 22:46.45 | joan | cynicallemon, yes, everything is distinctive, including the share name |
| 22:47.07 | cynicallemon | sounds like you have a path name wrong on one |
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| 22:48.07 | joan | cynicallemon, yes, I know, but I checked it thoroughly |
| 22:48.35 | cynicallemon | did you run testparm to verify the conf file? |
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| 22:48.51 | joan | that's why I was wondering there has to be an issue with win7 registry or whatever |
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| 22:49.43 | joan | cynicallemon, no, I will do it (when I have physical access to the machines), just in case |
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| 22:50.31 | cynicallemon | i assume you restarted the samba service too, if you make any changes or additions... |
| 22:51.02 | joan | of course, restarting everything, rebooting both linux and win7 box |
| 22:51.13 | cynicallemon | ok |
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| 22:51.58 | cynicallemon | the non working share isnt pointing to a symbolic link to a directory or anything like that? |
| 22:52.46 | joan | no, it's a "real" dir |
| 22:52.50 | cynicallemon | ok |
| 22:53.13 | cynicallemon | well thats about as much as i can help then |
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| 22:53.33 | cynicallemon | but run testparm when you can |
| 22:54.09 | joan | ok, thanx very much, you've been so nice, I'll try testparm |
| 22:54.38 | L337hium | how do i install an older linux-image? currently i only have one on my system installed. is it possibly to do that with i.e. aptitude? |
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| 22:55.36 | g00se | -d 10 as parameter to smbd could be useful |
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| 22:57.02 | L337hium | if i purge the current kernel with `dpkg --purge linux-image-NNN` am i afterwards able to install an other linux-image safly, and get an updated grub2 config (if needed)? |
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| 22:59.05 | L337hium | i may have found it: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/wheezy/sect.kernel-installation.html |
| 22:59.16 | cynicallemon | L337hium: install the other kernel first |
| 22:59.27 | dimitry7 | Hello guys. i think I have my firewall rules messed UP, I have 2 servers, A and B, A can ping B but B can't ping A. I did a nmap and it says host UP, so I think my iptables is crapped. |
| 23:00.01 | lewdgrammer | Hello there. Does anyone know if the Debian team accepts package suggestions and if so, where could I submit them? |
| 23:00.02 | dimitry7 | I have iptables -t filter -X for nat, mangle and filter |
| 23:00.07 | cynicallemon | dimitry7: well lets guess what the problem is... |
| 23:00.07 | dimitry7 | but still the same |
| 23:00.17 | L337hium | cynicallemon: i get i old apt package entries, and choise the 'version before'? |
| 23:00.29 | dimitry7 | cynicallemon, also tcpdump can't see the incomming packagees |
| 23:00.30 | L337hium | s/^/how do/ |
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| 23:00.55 | L337hium | s/choise/choose/ # sry |
| 23:01.31 | cynicallemon | L337hium: what kernel are you trying to install and where from? |
| 23:01.34 | heurist | L337hium: what are you trying to install? |
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| 23:02.00 | L337hium | heurist: an 'older' kernel |
| 23:02.10 | dimitry7 | cynicallemon, I have flushed all the rules. |
| 23:02.16 | heurist | L337hium: which one? is it listed in aptitude search ^linux-image |
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| 23:04.20 | L337hium | cynicallemon: i dont know yet. my current kernel version is 3.2.0-4-amd64 / 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 |
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| 23:05.07 | L337hium | heurist: i can choose from linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64, linux-image-3.16-3-amd64 or linux-image-2.6-amd64 |
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| 23:06.43 | heurist | L337hium: 2.6 is listed as a "dummy package", that kernel is not supported anymore. what do you want to install? and why? |
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| 23:07.05 | L337hium | heurist: i dont want something to install. i want to modprobe tun |
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| 23:07.58 | L337hium | i cant use virt-manager anymore to setup a bridge interface. it complianed about tun was not loaded. so i modprobed it and got the kernel mesage for which i found a three day old bug |
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| 23:08.10 | Andre-B | trying to mount a samba share using cifs, works so far but new files are not created with a proper mode to be writable (0770), using this command to mount: mount -t cifs //XXX.com/images /mnt -o user=remoteuser,uid=33,forceuid,gid=33,forcegid,file_mode=0770,dir_mode=0770 ideas? |
| 23:08.17 | L337hium | so i guess it has something todo with a recent update |
| 23:08.27 | cynicallemon | L337hium: have you tried the newer kernel |
| 23:08.50 | L337hium | cynicallemon: i can'nt see any newer kernel version which i can install with aptitude |
| 23:09.19 | heurist | L337hium: you listed linux-image-3.16-3-amd64 as one you saw available. |
| 23:09.22 | L337hium | therfor my idea was to downgrade |
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| 23:09.31 | cynicallemon | linux-image-3.16-3-amd64 |
| 23:09.47 | L337hium | yes. linux-image-3.16-3-amd64 |
| 23:10.11 | dimitry7 | cynicallemon, |
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| 23:10.20 | dimitry7 | u guessed? |
| 23:10.45 | heurist | Andre-B: your mount options have little effect on the creation modes on the server. set the create and directory mask in smb.conf |
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| 23:11.30 | cynicallemon | dimitry7: no, you able to ping from both when rules are flushed? |
| 23:11.43 | Andre-B | heurist: so the remote settings need to change here? |
| 23:12.06 | L337hium | on Mon, Nov 3 2014 17:01:17 +0100 I upgraded [UPGRADE] linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 3.2.63-2 -> 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 |
| 23:12.09 | heurist | Andre-B: files are created on the server, using the settings on the server. |
| 23:12.09 | L337hium | [UPGRADE] linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common:amd64 3.2.63-2 -> 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 |
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| 23:12.12 | L337hium | [UPGRADE] linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 3.2.63-2 -> 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 |
| 23:12.27 | L337hium | along with icedove + extentions and wget |
| 23:13.12 | jasonwc | I am trying to determine whether my system is in fact using ECC, and also would like reports of any errors. I installed EDAC but it appears the patch for my memory controller is very new. It was committed on July 4, 2014. https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=7ee40b897d18ab03111eda9a6a0550e98166eada |
| 23:13.35 | jasonwc | Is there a way to determine if that made it into the 3.16 kernel in wheezy-backports |
| 23:14.57 | rryoumaa | my new hard drive consistently fails to run a smart extended offline test, saying "# 2 Extended offline Interrupted (host reset) 90% 35 -". is this an os issue? |
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| 23:15.11 | dimitry7 | cynicallemon, Whether they are flushed or not I can't ping from A to B, only from B to A |
| 23:15.14 | Andre-B | heurist: thanks, searching for login data for the remote server |
| 23:15.37 | NiLon | rryoumaa could be, does it say anything about (U)DMA errors? |
| 23:15.50 | rryoumaa | no |
| 23:16.05 | rryoumaa | "199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0" |
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| 23:17.15 | NiLon | well you could try to swap your sata cable to different slot if that would make a difference |
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| 23:17.41 | NiLon | might sound like magical solution, but well |
| 23:17.46 | rryoumaa | i should specify. it is a wd external hard drive. |
| 23:17.55 | rryoumaa | it works ok. |
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| 23:18.12 | NiLon | oh external |
| 23:18.52 | NiLon | what happens if you try to re-plug and re-power it? |
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| 23:20.11 | rryoumaa | i will try that again when i am able to, but i have done so already, probably before and after the smart |
| 23:20.22 | NiLon | reason why I'm suggesting this is that always when I get that problem with a drive and there is no other error it stopped when I did swap a slot in MB |
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| 23:20.32 | NiLon | I don't know why it works but it's my best help, so there you go :D |
| 23:20.36 | rryoumaa | thanks |
| 23:21.24 | rryoumaa | just trying to decide whether to keep the drive. i might do a badblocks read-write test also. |
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| 23:27.02 | L337hium | OK. I was able to `aptitude install linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64=3.2.63-2` do I have to update grub2 manualy or execute a script? |
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| 23:28.52 | jasonwc | If I install a kernel from wheezy-backports, will I still be able to boot into the old wheezy-stable kernel (3.2) if something goes wrong? I need 3.16 for an EDAC patch for ECC info. |
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| 23:29.46 | bramgg | Hi all, I've added the line "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main" to my /et/apt/sources/list file and ran "sudo apt-get update", but still I can't locate/install the package "python3.3". What am I doing wrong? |
| 23:30.01 | bramgg | This is the package I want: https://packages.debian.org/sid/python3.3 |
| 23:30.14 | bramgg | *sources.list |
| 23:30.49 | bramgg | Whoops I really messed up the file path in my question, but I know I used the correct file |
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| 23:31.35 | Andre-B | heurist: I cant get it to work, tried adding create mask=0770 as a config setting for that share, but it still creates files as -rw-r----- |
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| 23:32.55 | heurist | L337hium: aptitude should take care of the grub stuff for you. |
| 23:33.11 | heurist | jasonwc: you will have both kernels available to boot from. |
| 23:33.19 | heurist | Andre-B: did you restart samba? |
| 23:33.25 | Andre-B | heurist: yes |
| 23:33.27 | NiLon | rryoumaa I don't know why but usually external drivers tend to die faster, maybe it's just me, I have no clue |
| 23:33.34 | jasonwc | heurist, thought so from my past experience with Debian but wanted to be sure before installing. Thanks! |
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| 23:33.47 | rryoumaa | NiLon: brand new drive |
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| 23:34.22 | Andre-B | heurist: http://pastebin.com/kv9vr2pM |
| 23:34.24 | NiLon | rryoumaa in some google paper they did show by their own research that drives tend to break most during first year |
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| 23:35.12 | NiLon | like that new drive is more likely to fail on first year than 4 year old drive in year |
| 23:35.30 | NiLon | it's rather interesting as you would not expect that |
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| 23:36.01 | bramgg | can anyone help me install the "python3.3" package on debian? |
| 23:37.53 | SynrG | bramgg: ehh? it isn't in debian for i386 and amd64 ... |
| 23:38.02 | SynrG | only m68k |
| 23:38.08 | SynrG | as the link you showed said |
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| 23:38.28 | bramgg | SynrG: oh thanks, don't quite know how to navigate that site. I guess I'll just have to install from source. Cheers :) |
| 23:38.36 | SynrG | why 3.3? |
| 23:38.41 | bramgg | SynrG: requirement for Flask |
| 23:38.41 | SynrG | ,v python3 |
| 23:38.42 | judd | Package: python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; sid: 3.4.2-1; jessie: 3.4.2-1 |
| 23:39.34 | SynrG | k. 3.4 is in jessie and sid, though. that won't work with flask? |
| 23:39.44 | L337hium | i will try a reboot |
| 23:40.18 | SynrG | mind you, distro mixing is not supported, and there's no backport, so no chance to get that on wheezy (unless you're able to backport it yourself) |
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| 23:44.28 | dimitry7 | Guys. I transmit video through one VPN... although this has made my HTTP/S server VERY SLOW.... |
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| 23:44.39 | dimitry7 | I have added this pair fo rules to prioritize traffic: |
| 23:44.40 | dimitry7 | #-A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 80 -j TOS --set-tos Maximize-Throughput |
| 23:44.41 | dimitry7 | #-A OUTPUT -p tcp --sport 443 -j TOS --set-tos Maximize-Throughput |
| 23:44.48 | SynrG | bramgg: 3.4 won't do it? |
| 23:45.04 | dimitry7 | But Still I have slowliness... are they ok? what else can I do? |
| 23:45.20 | bramgg | SynrG: 3.4 would work |
| 23:45.28 | bramgg | SynrG: where is 3.4? |
| 23:45.31 | SynrG | bramgg: are you running jessie? or wheezy? |
| 23:45.36 | bramgg | SynrG: wheezy |
| 23:45.42 | bramgg | SynrG: what's Jessie? |
| 23:45.43 | SynrG | well, there's no backport for wheezy |
| 23:45.46 | SynrG | it's the next release |
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| 23:45.52 | SynrG | aka. "testing" |
| 23:45.54 | bramgg | SynrG: what's a backport? |
| 23:45.56 | bramgg | ah |
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| 23:46.13 | SynrG | a backport is the package from the next release, rebuilt for the current stable release |
| 23:46.23 | SynrG | but there isn't one for python3 |
| 23:46.27 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, try `sysctl -w net.core.default_qdisc=codel` (if you're on wheezy's backport kernel) |
| 23:46.47 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, I am on wheezy only in one side... the other side is squeeze |
| 23:46.52 | L337hium | just for the record. i had to install the last version of linux-image and linux-header and linux-header-common found in /var/log/aptitude* and install it with apt-get to avoid errors from aptitude. |
| 23:46.53 | bramgg | Okay, that's fine. I've found a very helpful guide on installing python from source |
| 23:47.01 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, doesn't/shouldn't matter |
| 23:47.09 | nikio_ | where do debian screenshots go? |
| 23:47.16 | SynrG | bramgg: ok. good luck, then. |
| 23:47.20 | L337hium | i'm now able to modprobe tun, again |
| 23:47.26 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, sorry, both sides are debian 6. |
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| 23:47.29 | dimitry7 | sysctl -w net.core.default_qdisc=codel |
| 23:47.36 | dimitry7 | error: "net.core.default_qdisc" is an unknown key |
| 23:47.45 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, you kernel's not new enough to support codel then. a pity. |
| 23:47.46 | SynrG | bramgg: at least when the next release comes out, you can switch to using debian packages, which reduces the hassle |
| 23:47.56 | GNU\colossus | it would have probably helped a bit |
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| 23:48.13 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, my god... but what about it? is it nessesary for TOS to work on iptables? |
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| 23:48.39 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, no. it's a very good tcp congestion avoidance/control algorithm for scheduling packets |
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| 23:49.17 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, :-O really? wow... so it means that with that set... I don't need to configure Iptables prioritization??? |
| 23:49.34 | nikio_ | where do debian screenshots go? |
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| 23:49.44 | SynrG | nikio_: are you looking for screenshots.debian.net? |
| 23:49.48 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, probably, yes. |
| 23:50.14 | SynrG | nikio_: i'm not sure what you're asking ... |
| 23:50.17 | nikio_ | SynrG, no the location where the printscreen bottom when pressed causes picture to appear |
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| 23:50.29 | SynrG | nikio_: "it depends" |
| 23:50.30 | nikio_ | *button |
| 23:50.33 | SynrG | on gnome? |
| 23:50.36 | nikio_ | SynrG, how do I find out |
| 23:50.38 | nikio_ | yes |
| 23:50.48 | SynrG | in Pictures, i think |
| 23:51.13 | nikio_ | SynrG, that folder doesnt exist with me I think |
| 23:51.15 | nikio_ | how do i find out? |
| 23:51.40 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, okay but in my case.. are those IPtables rules OK? |
| 23:51.44 | dimitry7 | what else can I add? |
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| 23:52.26 | SynrG | nikio_: i don't know what debian release you are on. all debian systems i have with gnome have a Pictures folder ... |
| 23:52.58 | nikio_ | SynrG, im on the latest.. : / |
| 23:53.01 | nikio_ | wheezy |
| 23:53.06 | nikio_ | i just installed cd 1 |
| 23:53.07 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, I'm sorry, it's pretty much impossible to tell |
| 23:53.14 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, why? |
| 23:53.28 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, I can give you my full firewall rules |
| 23:53.29 | SynrG | nikio_: cd 1 is only a small subset of gnome, i think |
| 23:53.31 | GNU\colossus | if I were you, I'd look into `tc` to schedule network traffic |
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| 23:53.37 | dimitry7 | tc ? |
| 23:53.41 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, I'm going to bed in a few minutes :) |
| 23:53.43 | GNU\colossus | "traffic control" |
| 23:53.53 | nikio_ | SynrG, what now ? :< |
| 23:53.56 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, hehe, all right... so you don't recommend iptables to do that? |
| 23:53.59 | GNU\colossus | it exists outside of iptables; squeeze has it |
| 23:54.00 | SynrG | nikio_: install the rest? |
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| 23:54.08 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, okay perfect!! |
| 23:54.12 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, thank you so much!! |
| 23:54.40 | GNU\colossus | dimitry7, best of luck to you, and good night all :) |
| 23:54.48 | dimitry7 | GNU\colossus, thanks man! :-D |
| 23:55.05 | nikio_ | SynrG, i am already using this debian for a few days now |
| 23:55.08 | nikio_ | wont it break it? |
| 23:55.34 | SynrG | how does installing additional packages break it? i don't understand what you're worried about |
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| 23:57.36 | SynrG | nikio_: read https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ "Errata for release 7.0" - "Desktop installations on i386 do not work using CD#1 alone" |
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| 23:58.16 | SynrG | nikio_: then try "apt-get install task-gnome-desktop" which should install a the full set of things that would've been installed by the debian-installer |
| 23:58.52 | SynrG | the* |
| 23:59.05 | nikio_ | SynrG, i am using the amd64 install i think |
| 23:59.27 | SynrG | and that makes it better? |
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