00:00.00 | satdav | apt-get openfire downloads it |
00:00.52 | themill | not from debian it doesn't |
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00:01.14 | satdav | can we add that as part of a repo |
00:01.47 | themill | It needs someone to volunteer to do the work. |
00:02.11 | satdav | I am willing to if you can get me a example of wordpress or that |
00:02.19 | satdav | of a repo to copy |
00:02.44 | tethra | satdav: why not prosody? |
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00:02.59 | vook | satdav: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-contributing.en.html |
00:03.05 | satdav | thanks |
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00:04.09 | vook | satdav: and this : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer |
00:05.06 | ErhardtMundt | is there any dpkg-reconfigure command to edit /etc/default/im-config? |
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00:05.35 | satdav | thanks I will read it |
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00:12.49 | themill | ErhardtMundt: unlikely, but it's only a 6 line text file. |
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00:15.27 | zcd | does partman use mbr or gpt? |
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00:20.00 | somiaj | zcd: I think it can use either |
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00:21.40 | toop | how to change dir in terminal |
00:21.50 | somiaj | toop: cd dir |
00:21.57 | somiaj | toop: cd is short for change directory (: |
00:22.12 | dvs | chdir is better! |
00:22.19 | toop | what if you dont wanna type the folder name |
00:22.31 | toop | like what cd.. does |
00:22.34 | toop | in windows |
00:22.44 | somiaj | toop: you have to tell it where you want to change the directory |
00:22.48 | toop | chdir - command not found |
00:22.55 | somiaj | toop: cd .. (works) |
00:23.05 | somiaj | toop: so does cd ~ (for home) |
00:23.18 | somiaj | toop: additionaly you can use tab completion so you only have to type out the first part of the directory nanme |
00:23.19 | dvs | cd - for previous directory |
00:23.28 | toop | how do list the dirs |
00:23.33 | somiaj | ls |
00:23.38 | toop | thanks |
00:23.43 | dvs | time for a tutoral |
00:23.54 | somiaj | though that lists all files, and you may want --color so you can see which are dirs by color |
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00:26.50 | toop | how do I go to the root of the drive |
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00:27.37 | donofrio | anyone here running powerpc? |
00:27.54 | dvs | !anyone |
00:27.54 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
00:28.38 | justanotheruser | !popcon |
00:28.38 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package |
00:28.55 | GG111 | toop: can you elaborate more ? |
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00:29.45 | Bryanstein | donofrio, I run ppc |
00:30.01 | justanotheruser | GG111: gone |
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00:30.15 | GG111 | ohhhh, and I was just getting to know him |
00:30.29 | GG111 | oh, wait, I need to change my nick// |
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00:30.41 | SameDay | better now. |
00:31.09 | donofrio | Bryanstein: on desktop or server? |
00:31.23 | Bryanstein | donofrio, Desktop |
00:31.44 | donofrio | Bryanstein: mac mini? |
00:32.01 | Bryanstein | dondelelcaro, nope...what is it that you're looking for though? |
00:34.42 | donofrio | Bryanstein: ati 3d accelerated? |
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00:37.13 | donofrio | Bryanstein: yah like not software rastering |
00:37.26 | donofrio | Bryanstein: xorg |
00:37.41 | Bryanstein | Hmmm donofrio methinks not...perhaps I crossed that bridge at one point....I'm trying to think if my xorg.conf is on my nfs server |
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00:38.12 | donofrio | if it is paste.debian.net it to me |
00:38.31 | Arahael | I'm struggling with 'nohup', if I understand correctly, it should permit the command to live even though I closed the terminal. |
00:38.46 | Arahael | However, it dies as soon as that command appears to write to stdout. What am I doing wrong? My command is: |
00:38.49 | Arahael | flock -n arahael.ghost.lock -c 'cd arahael; /opt/node-v0.10.28-linux-x64/bin/npm start --production' & |
00:39.04 | Arahael | suddenly realises that there is no nohup there. |
00:39.25 | Bryanstein | blinks |
00:40.11 | zykotick9 | Arahael: YMMV, but i'd suggest screen or tmux over nohup |
00:40.42 | Bryanstein | I second what zykotick9 says |
00:40.42 | Arahael | zykotick9: Why? |
00:41.09 | SameDay | Arahael: If you ask why, then , you should try. |
00:41.18 | zykotick9 | Arahael: it's a bit more powerful/customizable IMO... as i said, YMMV |
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00:41.37 | SameDay | Well screen (or tmux), stay alive in either way, unless the system is shutdown |
00:41.45 | doublehp_ | howis called memoserv ? |
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00:42.25 | Arahael | SameDay: I've also put it into rc.local, this is just temporary until the next reboot. |
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00:42.38 | Arahael | (No nohup line in the rc.local though) |
00:42.44 | MrMonkey31 | Uhh, is there a quick command to kill my net connection. and what's the opposite command plz? ;) |
00:43.09 | Arahael | zykotick9: I'm still failing to understand the reason. btw, I am already using tmux, but I don't intend to keep a tmux window open just for ghost. |
00:43.21 | MrMonkey31 | or better yet can I get the opposite command and I'll figure out the killing cmd myself? O:-) |
00:43.50 | zykotick9 | Arahael: use nohup then... i wish i hadn't said anything |
00:43.57 | SameDay | MrMonkey31: you want to kill your Internet connection ? |
00:44.03 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: only real reason is if you ever want to see the output |
00:44.10 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: but you don't actually need nohup either. |
00:44.15 | MrMonkey31 | SameDay: yup, reversibly I mean |
00:44.33 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: ( foo command blah blah blah >/dev/null 2>&1 & ) &; will do what you want. |
00:44.34 | SameDay | MrMonkey31: me no understand |
00:45.29 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: the actual, complete thing to do is to write your own init script or similar (or use start-stop-daemon, which also does this for you) |
00:49.31 | Arahael | dondelelcaro: Yes, I'll be doing that when I get time. :) |
00:49.35 | Arahael | dondelelcaro: I usually do that. |
00:49.56 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: it's actually pretty easy; you can just modify /etc/init.d/skeleton |
00:50.01 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: but whatever works |
00:50.08 | Arahael | dondelelcaro: Yes, but when I set this up last night, it was 11pm. :) |
00:50.19 | Arahael | dondelelcaro: I'll probably do that next. |
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00:50.23 | Arahael | Gotta go! |
00:50.58 | Arahael | dondelelcaro: (Also, I see you're using a debian-based distro: Awesome) |
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00:51.30 | dondelelcaro | actually, I'm using Debian... |
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00:52.24 | dondelelcaro | I don't actually own any computers which run anything else. (Though I suppose my cell phone and watch are powerful enough that they might qualify... they don't currently run Debian) |
00:54.22 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: good luck! |
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00:58.30 | doublehp_ | how to have grub with french layout keyboard ? |
00:58.44 | doublehp_ | how to have numlock activated in all consoles at boot time ? |
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01:00.51 | MrMonkey31 | I begin to question the wisdom and correctness of prancing about my room like a crazed primate |
01:03.36 | dvs | MrMonkey31: so do we Mr. Ballmer |
01:04.17 | SameDay | doublehp_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activating_Numlock_on_Bootup |
01:05.03 | SameDay | Didn't I read somewhere, a long time ago, that Debian 7 would not offer GNOME as a default Desktop ? |
01:05.07 | donofrio | how come this four year old bug is still alive? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=605051 |
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01:06.37 | SameDay | I installed on my Desktop a few weeks ago, and was shocked to boot into GNOME-3 |
01:08.10 | dvs | SameDay: So install something else. |
01:09.02 | SameDay | dvs: well, yes, one day. I promised my self to stop with the tinkering and actually learn new things. Like finish K&R C. |
01:09.18 | dondelelcaro | donofrio: we have lots of old bugs, actually... but it's probably because very few people run powerpc anymore |
01:09.30 | SameDay | I switched to LXDE at work, but I don't spend enough time at home to justify the tinkering. |
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01:09.43 | donofrio | I would think this would error for everyone regardless of arch |
01:09.47 | donofrio | someone tyr this |
01:10.00 | donofrio | xorg -configure and let me know if it crashed |
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01:10.34 | donofrio | it suppose to write out the correct xorg.conf but all I get is default this and default that.... |
01:11.38 | dondelelcaro | donofrio: you shouldn't need an xorg.conf for almost all configurations nowadays. |
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01:13.29 | donofrio | how do you get accuration with ati without xorg using real radeo drivers |
01:13.36 | donofrio | acceulation |
01:13.44 | doublehp_ | acceleration |
01:13.44 | donofrio | tired don't mind me |
01:14.47 | donofrio | did anyone else try it? you'll need to gdm3 stop or killall -9 lightdm then try it... |
01:15.38 | doublehp_ | SameDay: put this in rc.local: for tty in /dev/tty{1..6};do /usr/bin/setleds -D +num < "$tty";done |
01:15.45 | doublehp_ | SameDay: what's on your page is invalid |
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01:19.59 | SameDay | doublehp_: as long as it works man.. |
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01:23.01 | doublehp_ | now, grub fr layout ... ? |
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01:24.36 | GoodGirl2 | "You are encouraged to switch your sources.list entries from testing to wheezy for the time being if you need security support." What does that mean? Can I use testing and still be as safe as stable if I do that? :/ |
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01:29.26 | SameDay | GoodGirl2: What's the source of that quote ? |
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01:36.31 | GoodGirl2 | SameDay: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/ |
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01:47.04 | dregan | i want to install Debian jessie, what is the difference between a weekly build and daily build image ? |
01:47.38 | rmoore | Hello everyone. I'm a current Ubuntu user with a (albeit minimal) background in Debian based distros. I'm interested in learning the pro's of a straight Debian system and what kind of advantages I'll find performancewise. |
01:47.46 | donofrio | dregan: #debian-next |
01:48.23 | dregan | donofrio, that channel is invite only |
01:48.53 | donofrio | not on debian.net irc server this is freenode |
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01:49.17 | Artemis3 | ah ati, ofc, you should just stick to wheezy until more bugs get fixed |
01:49.19 | dregan | oh |
01:49.47 | donofrio | Artemis3: yah ati acceurated is what is needed if I'm to get xbmc usable |
01:50.58 | Artemis3 | try wheezy-backports and with build-essential compile anything else |
01:51.00 | Bryanstein | donofrio, I gotta dig out a machine and right now...that's not going to happen at the moment. I've got an older mac laying around that might have it enabled. Maybe I'll brave the attic for you. |
01:51.21 | Artemis3 | hehe sounds like an adventure |
01:51.55 | Bryanstein | Artemis3, it is...one of those that you end up getting a gash in your shin for taking :oP |
01:51.57 | Artemis3 | in the attic dungeon lies the treasure of an ancient forgetten architecture |
01:51.59 | donofrio | Bryanstein: that would rock I'm here a bunch these days wonderful this debian, |
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01:53.56 | Bryanstein | donofrio, mind you...might! I seem to recall having some issues...well after I had a ton of yaboot issues, yikes |
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01:55.38 | donofrio | I'm just trying to make good use of this donation hardware I got....my boys have powermac's one had cinima display (he's 12 other 14) |
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01:56.21 | donofrio | so all I need it gnash working like flash13 jre1.8 and javagl with opengl hardware |
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01:57.31 | Bryanstein | Ha...I remember trying to run gnash on older ppc hardware....man what a mistake |
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01:58.05 | donofrio | Bryanstein: I'd use pepperflash but no arch love there |
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01:58.35 | Bryanstein | dondelelcaro, what radeon does yours have? |
01:58.46 | jmcnaught | on amd64 i had even less success with pepperflash than i did with gnash |
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01:59.29 | donofrio | pepperflash is the only way I could get esx vsphere webclient to load |
01:59.59 | donofrio | my setup @ work @ http://www.tinyurl.com/1yearstandingatwork2014 |
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02:00.33 | donofrio | the four right monitors are (cough mint16) debian soon.....but hopefully you all still feel the love |
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02:01.29 | jmcnaught | donofrio: have you tried this: https://mozilla.github.io/shumway/ (i haven't but it looks promising) |
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02:01.48 | Bryanstein | donofrio, do you stand up and use it? |
02:02.09 | donofrio | Bryanstein: all day standing like rumsfield.....10hrs+ |
02:02.24 | Bryanstein | donofrio, that's soooo much healthier |
02:02.25 | donofrio | jmcnaught: wow looks to have promise tab opened |
02:02.39 | donofrio | I'm standing at hmoe right now when I'm chatting with you all |
02:02.50 | donofrio | finnaly got a standing pad for home office |
02:02.52 | donofrio | much better |
02:03.24 | donofrio | does pandora work in wheezy for anyone didnt work last time I checked |
02:03.34 | Bryanstein | donofrio, I want to do the treadmill desk setup. Have you seen it? |
02:03.35 | donofrio | not pandora I meant pianobar |
02:04.21 | donofrio | Bryanstein: nope no mill yet, just grabbed paper stacks and started at 3am one moreing 1.2yrs ago and changed my life |
02:04.38 | donofrio | made everyone ask "wht happens if we run outta paper" |
02:04.48 | Bryanstein | hahah I was just about to ask that |
02:04.48 | donofrio | synergy is my savor! |
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02:05.12 | Bryanstein | donofrio, do you have a copy of your current xorg? |
02:05.29 | shawnbon206 | can you feel the love tonight |
02:07.45 | donofrio | http://www.tinyurl.com/povof1yearstandingatwork2014 |
02:07.51 | donofrio | walk up view of setup |
02:08.21 | donofrio | left two monitors are corp win7 bah....rest is linux goodness all fronted by synergy - what a great project |
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02:08.47 | donofrio | Bryanstein: no my point when I run xorg --configure it dumps |
02:08.53 | donofrio | crashes I mean |
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02:12.16 | ni285533 | you big black baboon |
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02:12.57 | ni285533 | let me search my pockets for kfc or a banana |
02:13.46 | ni285533 | oh wrong channel sorry |
02:14.02 | ni285533 | im trolling ubuntu |
02:14.13 | ni285533 | peace! |
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02:14.43 | donofrio | (I'll never understand - the internet) |
02:14.48 | Bryanstein | donofrio, maybe give this a spin: http://www.sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ |
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02:14.59 | Bryanstein | Go all the way to the bottom and he has some configs there |
02:15.06 | Bryanstein | Well xorg at least |
02:15.14 | donofrio | thats where I got the yaboot stuff from (-: |
02:15.43 | donofrio | and I think its the xorg.conf too that I tried but still glxinfo was returning software rastering |
02:16.43 | Bryanstein | Well I'm pretty good with yaboot...I have osx os9 freebsd and debian installed on the box |
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02:17.33 | Bryanstein | Now I do have this shiny g5 with dual procs sitting behind me lol |
02:18.00 | donofrio | yah I got two of them one for each son |
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02:18.27 | donofrio | hence why I'm still even after a year later still trying to get jre 1.7 for them osx only has jre1.6 |
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02:21.54 | aidalgol | Where does gitolite log to on Debian? |
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02:22.07 | peterrooney | donofrio: I remember the last time I was trying to keep java current on PPC, I used IBM's java kits to keep current. Don't know what the situation is now. for java on ppc. |
02:22.23 | peterrooney | #debianppc |
02:22.34 | donofrio | k |
02:25.36 | peterrooney | donofrio: it's definitely a slower-paced channel than #debian is. I've seen conversations take days. |
02:26.07 | donofrio | peterrooney: like chess eh |
02:26.38 | donofrio | Bryanstein: pm me if you feel like sometime so I can exchange email's and the like |
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02:34.30 | SlaxXx | guys, should I go for ubunto or debian itself ? |
02:35.09 | bazhang | this is #debian SlaxXx |
02:35.18 | SlaxXx | :) |
02:35.31 | bazhang | guess what they'll say |
02:35.32 | shawnbon206 | debian, unless youre a woman |
02:35.41 | SlaxXx | :)) |
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02:36.02 | ectospasm | There are women who use Debian. I'm sure. |
02:36.05 | SlaxXx | just wanted to cofirm that ubuntu is debian with tons of preinstalled crappy apps that i might never need. |
02:36.15 | shawnbon206 | yes |
02:36.17 | SlaxXx | :D |
02:36.25 | shawnbon206 | man up and use debian |
02:36.30 | shawnbon206 | or woman up |
02:36.41 | peterrooney | shawnbon206: take it elsewhere. |
02:37.04 | SlaxXx | its that I only played around with linux under vmware. so obviously im newbie and inexperienced. |
02:37.08 | Artemis3 | SlaxXx, and kernel patches |
02:37.11 | SlaxXx | I wanna go for full linux |
02:37.29 | Artemis3 | SlaxXx, go Slackware? |
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02:38.20 | SlaxXx | but I mean , I could simply install the apps I need. right? either apt-get or compile from source(I know how to do it yeaahhh) |
02:38.34 | Artemis3 | just do it (tm) |
02:38.47 | SlaxXx | so its pointless to go for other distrios. thats what i wated to confirm |
02:39.00 | SlaxXx | no advantage other then the preinstalled apps. |
02:39.08 | Artemis3 | its not pointless to experiment, your path might be different |
02:39.48 | Artemis3 | SlaxXx, try Arch, Gentoo, and such. Variety in styles and results, then you decide which fits you best. |
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02:40.18 | SlaxXx | Artemis3: so whats the difference between debian and arch ? |
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02:40.46 | shawnbon206 | SlaxXx lets take this into #debian-offtopic |
02:40.55 | Artemis3 | or ##linux |
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02:42.04 | SlaxXx | or #sleeplessnerds |
02:42.13 | shawnbon206 | no cliches in the support channel |
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02:45.56 | mr-seif | How To Create a wireless network to share Internet on Ubuntu 14.04 |
02:46.28 | aidalgol | mr-seif: /join #ubuntu |
02:46.55 | mr-seif | Thank you |
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02:47.24 | SlaxXx | by plugining in the cable. obviously |
02:47.42 | SlaxXx | that;s how one can create a wireless network |
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02:54.40 | SlaxXx | so you'd rather stay in this cemetery silence then offtopicing??? |
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03:00.16 | SlaxXx | quick question. arch or gentoo ?? |
03:00.23 | terabit | both |
03:00.27 | centrx | !poll |
03:00.28 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
03:00.33 | horses_ftw | biebian |
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03:01.06 | terabit | polls are good |
03:01.33 | terabit | what's wrong with asking someone their professional preference of software and their experience with it |
03:01.39 | SlaxXx | I'll give Arch a try. |
03:01.57 | terabit | gentoo is for the strongest and most patient users not for everyone |
03:01.59 | centrx | Arch has the best wiki |
03:02.02 | horses_ftw | but the question had nothing to do with professional exp |
03:02.11 | terabit | gentoo has the best forums |
03:02.19 | horses_ftw | i dont even use forums |
03:02.23 | terabit | and irc channels |
03:02.24 | horses_ftw | what is irc for? |
03:02.43 | SlaxXx | i never use forums only redtube |
03:02.50 | terabit | gentoo is the only distro I know whose dev and support main method is irc |
03:03.07 | horses_ftw | eww redtube |
03:03.15 | horses_ftw | at least get pornhumpremium |
03:03.18 | terabit | xhamster |
03:03.23 | horses_ftw | blech |
03:03.27 | horses_ftw | you like 144p? |
03:03.33 | jmcnaught | could we keep it family friendly in here please? |
03:03.48 | ctmjr | and on topic |
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03:04.51 | terabit | nobody brings their family to irc ! :P j/k ok |
03:04.54 | terabit | pipes down |
03:05.35 | SlaxXx | sounds like incest to me |
03:05.56 | jmcnaught | SlaxXx: do you need help with Debian or are you just here to bug people? |
03:06.43 | SlaxXx | what distro are using the linux experts? |
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03:07.17 | SlaxXx | i mea ubuntu and such are the low end newbie firendly... what at the opposide pole? |
03:07.25 | kingkong | hi |
03:07.33 | SlaxXx | hello kingkong |
03:07.50 | kingkong | how can I make it so that when i used tab button, it will auto complete? im on debian 7,5 64 |
03:08.04 | horses_ftw | lmao SlaxXx |
03:08.50 | jmcnaught | kingkong: the package "bash-completion" might be what you're looking for |
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03:10.49 | kingkong | jmcnaught thanks, i installed it now :) |
03:11.26 | SlaxXx | kingkong: that'd be $4,99 |
03:12.36 | jmcnaught | kingkong: ignore SlaxXx |
03:12.49 | kingkong | ok SlaxXx :) |
03:12.57 | kingkong | jmcnaught hmm :) |
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03:14.23 | SlaxXx | kingkong: ignore jmcnaught he lacks humor he's just a bot loaded with data :P |
03:15.34 | ctmjr | SlaxXx: why don't you go play some where else |
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03:16.25 | SlaxXx | ctmjr: here's whete i feel at home |
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03:17.44 | SlaxXx | guys, whats the min capacity of a flash memeory stick. i mean to install linux on it permanenly |
03:17.53 | SlaxXx | not only "live cd" mode |
03:19.30 | mcurran | min? depends on what distro, and some have lite versions (iso's) but usually at least 1GB, plus you need to partition it and make a swap partition |
03:20.02 | kingkong | i got that msg: -bash: aptitude: command not found |
03:20.06 | kingkong | why so? |
03:20.18 | mcurran | sudo |
03:20.22 | mcurran | you need to be root |
03:20.23 | SlaxXx | well. I have a spare 1GB flash memory stick. which distro could I permanently install on it? |
03:20.28 | kingkong | i run it as root already |
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03:20.48 | mcurran | probably don't have aptitude installed |
03:21.00 | mcurran | synaptic and apt-get are two different packages |
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03:21.24 | kingkong | what should i do now? |
03:21.32 | mcurran | sudo apt-get install aptitude |
03:21.49 | mcurran | or synaptic not sure what the package is called it's one of those two |
03:22.55 | kingkong | can i install aptitude and synaptic together? |
03:22.59 | mcurran | yep |
03:23.00 | SlaxXx | mcurran: |
03:23.12 | mcurran | did you issue that command/ |
03:24.17 | kingkong | i did apt-get install aptitude as root and installed |
03:24.27 | SlaxXx | do u guys know of ANY distro that can be installed on a 1gb stick? |
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03:29.52 | SlaxXx | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerd |
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03:30.32 | kingkong | http://paste.kde.org/psa2ysukm/x88p95 |
03:30.48 | kingkong | where do i get this list? |
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03:31.36 | jmcnaught | !deb-src |
03:31.37 | dpkg | 'deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ [wheezy|squeeze|jessie|sid] main contrib non-free' (for example), replace with your own for a local mirror. Ask me about <source> for some information about how to build stuff, make sure the "build-essential" package is installed. You might need to have linux-headers-$(uname -r) (if using a Debian kernel) and the libc6-dev packages installed. |
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03:32.14 | SlaxXx | Sluiten |
03:32.14 | SlaxXx | WLE Austria Logo (no text).svg |
03:32.14 | SlaxXx | Wiki Loves Earth in focus during May |
03:32.14 | SlaxXx | Discover natural heritage, take photos, help Wikipedia and win! |
03:32.14 | SlaxXx | Nerd |
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03:33.10 | _FBi | kingkong, why not build it? the debian version is 0.2 something, the current version is 1.3 or 1.4 |
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03:34.00 | kingkong | _FBi what i will build? current version of what? |
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03:34.26 | _FBi | znc? |
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03:35.02 | [gnubie] | waves |
03:35.10 | [gnubie] | i have a running xen domU inside an lvm logical volume that i "lvcreate -s" to take a snapshot of it. after that, i did a dd of that snapshot volume into an raw image file (dd if=/dev/vg0/snapshot of=/tmp/snapshot.img bs=1024). now, how can i verify the contents of the raw image file (snapshot.img) if the contents are the same as what's inside in the production logical volume of the xen domU? |
03:35.11 | _FBi | ola' |
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03:36.45 | kingkong | _FBi i don't know. im new with it. it says on znc page that command will install the newer version of znc |
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03:38.31 | _FBi | kingkong, http://wiki.znc.in/Installation#Source_Tarball |
03:39.19 | _FBi | but this isn't a ZNC channel :) |
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03:39.30 | _FBi | I'm out for the night, good luck |
03:39.32 | jmcnaught | kingkong: installing from a tarball is probably not the best way. Backporting from unstable is probably a better way to go |
03:40.29 | jmcnaught | or you know, see if the version in wheezy does what you need it to do before making things complicated |
03:41.15 | kingkong | i wanted to install newest version of znc for debian. which way i should choose then. |
03:41.44 | kingkong | if i install it and make update system that will be update as well? |
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03:54.33 | kingkong | jmcnaught ok thx, i readed it. i can backport it. what will i write "yourmirror" line for znc at deb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main ? |
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03:55.19 | jmcnaught | kingkong: http://backports.debian.org/Mirrors/ |
03:55.35 | jmcnaught | errr... don't just put that, check that page for a mirror close to you |
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03:56.53 | kingkong | close to me means close to my server's location, right? |
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03:57.26 | worlon | Having problem partitioning my SSD. 'fdisk -lu' indicates : Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System |
03:57.28 | worlon | /dev/sdb1 * 1 2410495 1205247+ 83 Linux |
03:57.29 | worlon | /dev/sdb2 2410496 125045424 61317464+ 83 Linux |
03:57.31 | worlon | cfdisk /dev/sdb says : FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 2: Partition ends after end-of-disk |
03:57.53 | jmcnaught | worlon: you should http://paste.debian.net/ so you don't get kicked by the bots |
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03:58.27 | jmcnaught | kingkong: correct.. you could use one far away from your server but it will be slower |
03:59.00 | worlon | its only a few lines. be more concerned about helping to solve problem. |
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03:59.31 | jmcnaught | worlon: yes sir! |
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04:00.18 | worlon | i don't mean to be rude. i just need somehelp. |
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04:02.45 | Rusty1 | worlon: does fdisk /dev/sdb say anything will be corrected on a write? |
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04:03.34 | worlon | don't quite understand. fdisk does notwrite to disk, |
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04:04.06 | kingkong | which one is the best? ftp, http or rsync? |
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04:06.35 | Rusty1 | worlon: fdisk will occaisonally say that here is a problem, which will be corrected on the next write |
04:07.21 | Rusty1 | usually with respect to alignment |
04:07.31 | worlon | Rusty1: sorry, it says nothing on that. |
04:09.06 | worlon | fdisk data looks OK. partition2 starts after partition 1. end of partition 2 does notexceed size of drive, which is 64G |
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04:11.14 | Rusty1 | worlon: does parted -l look ok? |
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04:12.19 | worlon | checking on that. |
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04:14.53 | worlon | Rusty1: parted -l /dev/sdb gives this: Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk! |
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04:16.29 | ShariVegas | .. |
04:16.53 | Rusty1 | if it were me , i would zero the thing and start over, but wait for someone with better ssd smarts than i got |
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04:21.23 | ShariVegas | hmm, why not erase the partition2, and recreate it, but back it off 64 blocks from the end? |
04:23.04 | ShariVegas | could also double-check that it is in fact a 64GB SSD and do a write test from 48GB to 64GB |
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04:25.12 | ShariVegas | also starting from 1 is a bit problematic for the first partition, if i remember the number correctly you want to start from 2048 in so there's enough space for grub to stick its stage 1.5... all if i remember correctly |
04:25.30 | worlon | Rusty1: thks for the help. surfing web for info. bye. |
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04:38.06 | oxflouzer | So this should be an easy question |
04:38.28 | oxflouzer | I have a grunt task running in the background that is watching for files to change... and when it does it runs some tasks |
04:38.46 | oxflouzer | I just used #grunt & to launch it into the background |
04:38.56 | oxflouzer | but the notifications are really annoying... the just pop up in the middle of things |
04:39.15 | oxflouzer | So, tl;dr; how do I get some kind of nicer output from a background task? |
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04:48.37 | kingkong | jmcnaught deb http://debian.ipacct.com/debian-backports/ wheezy-backports main |
04:48.38 | kingkong | -bash: deb: command not found |
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04:48.47 | kingkong | i got that error |
04:49.36 | jmcnaught | kingkong: it's not a command, it's a line that you add to /etc/apt/sources.list (or you could create /etc/apt/sources.list.d/backports.list and put the line in there) |
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04:50.05 | kingkong | ouff |
04:50.16 | jmcnaught | after you add that line, you need to run "apt-get update" |
04:52.41 | kingkong | jmcnaught how do you know if you have squeeze or wheezy |
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04:54.33 | LtL | kingkong: run 'lsb_release -a' in a shell |
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04:55.18 | LtL | kingkong: or console whatever |
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04:56.46 | kingkong | ok thx LtL |
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04:56.57 | kingkong | i got error on update http://paste.kde.org/px5rjs7j1/bxpxfh |
04:57.29 | mosbey | hello |
04:57.50 | mosbey | anyone here doing l3dsr? |
04:58.12 | LtL | kingkong: i would use a better mirror and update it |
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05:03.57 | kingkong | ok i tried 4 different mirror and location, but same error |
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05:05.22 | jmcnaught | kingkong: make a paste of your sources.list file so we can take a look |
05:06.00 | LtL | dpkg: tell kingkong about wheezy sources.list |
05:06.15 | LtL | kingkong: read the message fom dpkg |
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05:09.45 | kingkong | jmcnaught http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e3c52ab3/ |
05:09.58 | kingkong | ok LtL thx |
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05:11.01 | Th34rchitekt | kingkong: try 'deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free' |
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05:17.13 | kingkong | ok i did it Th34rchitekt |
05:17.15 | kingkong | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/75335ff0/ |
05:17.19 | kingkong | i got again same problem |
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05:20.28 | Th34rchitekt | kingkong: remove this line 'deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-backports wheezy-backports main' from your /etc/apt/sources.list and update again |
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05:24.27 | kingkong | again error http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dda7a4c6/ |
05:25.26 | Th34rchitekt | show me your sources.list |
05:25.51 | kingkong | it's same, i just deleted the line you asked me |
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05:26.30 | kingkong | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/480ba7e8/ |
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05:27.25 | Th34rchitekt | ok, now remove 'deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main' this line |
05:27.49 | Th34rchitekt | and in 'deb http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main contrib non-free' change wheezy/updates to wheezy-updates |
05:28.00 | Th34rchitekt | and then run apt-get update or aptitude update |
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05:30.38 | kingkong | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4eb5f28a/ |
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05:31.17 | Th34rchitekt | works. |
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05:34.17 | kingkong | ok thanks :) |
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05:36.35 | kingkong | so, i can run "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install znc" command now? |
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05:38.43 | kingkong | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/2dd4c3b1/ |
05:39.08 | Th34rchitekt | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/znc there's version for wheezy so you can just run aptitude install znc |
05:40.08 | kingkong | Th34rchitekt it's the latest version of znc? |
05:41.14 | Th34rchitekt | latest stable |
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05:41.23 | Th34rchitekt | latest is in jessie's repo |
05:41.35 | Th34rchitekt | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/znc |
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05:44.42 | jmcnaught | kingkong: however if this is for a server (which i think you said earlier) you may not want to run jessie on a server. |
05:45.02 | Th34rchitekt | this^ |
05:45.16 | jmcnaught | kingkong: my advice would be to practice adding backports repo and backporting software on a local computer (possibly a VM) to get the hang of it |
05:46.16 | kingkong | it's on my vps. i want to run znc service for users accounts. |
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05:47.06 | jmcnaught | kingkong: or just use the version that's available in Wheezy now. Debian Stable isn't about having the latest version, it's about having a fairly recent version that's well tested and bug fixed (with security updates too!) |
05:49.08 | Damiox | jmcnaught, hi. do you know how much space will require jessie+gnome3 aprox: 10gb, 15gb, 20gb+? And, does debian keep increasing the OS size as Windows does? |
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05:49.14 | kingkong | so, i will just run aptitude install znc -y ? |
05:50.13 | jmcnaught | kingkong: maybe without the -y so you get a chance to say no if it wants to install more than you want it to... also seriously recommend after install that you look in /usr/share/doc/znc and read all the files |
05:52.10 | jmcnaught | Damiox: well I run Wheezy but Jessie will probably be similar. My root volume is 13G (currently 3.2G free) with most of my disk being used for /home. I also have a 228M /boot, if that helps |
05:53.14 | Damiox | yes it helps a lot, do you think you are running out of free space in / or is it under common parameters? |
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05:53.27 | Damiox | I meant under control |
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05:54.52 | jmcnaught | Damiox: well I use LVM and I've left a bunch of space unallocated so that I can increase the size of whichever volume needs more room later on. In the past I've run out of space with a / that is less than 10G, but it really depends on how much software you install |
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05:58.23 | Damiox | jmcnaught: thanks for the info |
05:58.30 | Damiox | again ;p |
05:59.43 | jmcnaught | Damiox: no problem :) A bit of advice, others might ignore your questions if they see them directed at just one person (and I might not see it if I'm distracted) so usually it's better to address the whole channel with questions instead of one person |
06:00.35 | Damiox | understood, i just saw you actively chatting and i took advantage of it lol |
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06:01.52 | jmcnaught | no worries |
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06:03.45 | kittonian | hi all. need some serious help here. just did a dist-upgrade to wheezy from squeeze and it broke a bunch of stuff on my server |
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06:58.14 | kingkong | ok thanks to all who helped me :) |
06:58.44 | shawnbon206 | np |
06:59.00 | shawnbon206 | buy me lunch some time |
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07:21.08 | kingkong | ok :) |
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07:41.22 | vyadhaka | is there a native adblock plugin for chromium |
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07:43.35 | Th34rchitekt | vyadhaka: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock-plus/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb |
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07:46.43 | vyadhaka | Th34rchitekt: thats for chrome, I am asking about chromium |
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07:51.38 | Th34rchitekt | it's the same |
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07:52.05 | vyadhaka | not it's not, when I go to the chrome webpage, it's asking me to install chrome |
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07:56.44 | bazhang | http://askubuntu.com/questions/415127/adblock-on-chromium-32-0-1700-102-vs-chrome-32-0-1700-107 vyadhaka |
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07:56.59 | freq | anyone in here run debian on a radxa? |
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08:00.42 | freq | this room is so busy that i can't see straight |
08:01.09 | bazhang | why not ask the real question freq |
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08:04.13 | freq | bazhang: maybe you can reitterate |
08:04.28 | freq | because you know of a question that i do not |
08:04.34 | mjt | !ask |
08:04.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
08:04.35 | bazhang | <freq> anyone in here run debian on a radxa? |
08:05.00 | freq | wow. |
08:05.03 | mjt | !ops consqui |
08:05.03 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: mjt complains about: consqui |
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08:05.32 | freq | it looks like there are a ton of abilities that i will never memorize. |
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08:05.51 | mjt | !ops consqui auto-msg-spamming new niks |
08:05.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: mjt complains about: consqui auto-msg-spamming new niks |
08:06.06 | freq | how do i upgrade from ubuntu arm to debian arm |
08:06.17 | freq | without breaking everything |
08:06.21 | bazhang | reinstall |
08:06.43 | mjt | such an "upgrade", while might work in some cases, is Not Supported. |
08:06.50 | freq | welp, i'm not entirely confident in the nand dept. so i wont |
08:07.06 | freq | i'm upgrading to trusty atm |
08:07.17 | freq | my next move is to learn how to flash images to nand |
08:07.26 | freq | ...without breaking everything |
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08:12.04 | themill | mjt: hi |
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08:12.54 | freq | what is all of that about |
08:13.00 | buu | Spambots. |
08:13.03 | themill | mjt: thanks |
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08:13.29 | freq | weird |
08:14.10 | mjt | themill: did it spam you too? |
08:14.25 | freq | what was the link to |
08:14.32 | mjt | heh |
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08:15.00 | themill | mjt: yes. It's a repeat offender too. |
08:15.12 | freq | was it a nsfw link |
08:15.13 | mjt | themill: because, as I learned for quite some time, these spambots sometimes don't spam ops :) |
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08:20.13 | freq | yikes |
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08:36.39 | herbert1 | Hi |
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08:36.49 | bazhang | hi |
08:36.54 | average | bazhang: oh hi |
08:36.59 | pupil | hello |
08:37.01 | bazhang | hello |
08:37.03 | average | pupil: hello hi |
08:37.07 | average | hello bazhang pupil |
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08:37.17 | herbert1 | put the older debian on here |
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08:38.40 | herbert1 | debian with linux 2.4 |
08:38.48 | average | herbert1: you mean kernel 2.4 ? |
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08:39.24 | herbert1 | kern 2.4 |
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08:41.07 | herbert1 | remember that Miss Soldana? |
08:41.46 | themill | herbert1: please play elsewhere. |
08:42.14 | herbert1 | themill: listen |
08:42.19 | average | herbert1: no, you listen |
08:42.23 | average | herbert1: go and play elsewhere |
08:42.48 | herbert1 | what is meant by play? |
08:43.40 | average | herbert1: https://www.google.com/search?q=define:play |
08:44.03 | average | or check a dictionary |
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08:44.12 | herbert1 | the keys have to be issued |
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08:45.18 | diode_logic | is ChanServ a robot? |
08:45.28 | bazhang | services bot |
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08:46.42 | diode_logic | I'm using the empathy client for irc, and want to know where to put the command? |
08:47.25 | justanotheruser | why did herbert just get kicked? |
08:48.33 | gimo83 | whoami |
08:48.38 | average | justanotheruser: because this is not kindergarden ? this a support channel |
08:48.41 | diode_logic | ok, got it |
08:49.31 | justanotheruser | average: I didn't see anything kindergarten like |
08:49.39 | justanotheruser | maybe I missed it |
08:49.39 | diode_logic | gimo83: you are gimo83 |
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08:50.09 | average | justanotheruser: sorry, I'm in a meeting, I'll get back to you later(much later) |
08:50.37 | justanotheruser | average: k thanks |
08:52.01 | diode_logic | It seems people here are busy today |
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08:52.46 | justanotheruser | diode_logic: no, he just doesn't like his confirmation bias to be broken |
08:54.50 | diode_logic | I think I have missed something interesting |
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08:55.38 | mjt | nothing interesting. another kid has been kicked for thinking this is a kindergarten. Please move on already. |
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08:57.49 | diode_logic | today, in china, people are celebrating their Dragon Boat Festival |
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08:59.40 | diode_logic | it seems like fantastic |
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09:10.55 | pupil | diode_logic: golden dict |
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09:52.24 | jayvee | I get this error inside debian-installer when I boot from debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso |
09:52.27 | jayvee | May 31 09:32:10 anna[1831]: WARNING **: no packages matching running kernel 3.13-1-amd64 in archive |
09:52.43 | jayvee | I'm guessing that mini.iso needs to be rebuilt with a newer kernel? |
09:53.12 | abrotman | or you sohuld install with wheezy and dist-upgrade |
09:53.18 | abrotman | or use the netinst |
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09:53.53 | jayvee | I'm installing wheezy now and going to dist-upgrade, but it's a significant pain when all I wanted was to test a jessie system for 5 minutes |
09:54.24 | jayvee | I couldn't figure out how to tell the netinst iso to install a different distro |
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09:54.30 | jayvee | the same option from netboot doesn't appear in netinst |
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09:55.39 | jerc | I install wheezy using net install and then change to jessie in sources.list haven't seen any other option so far |
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09:56.23 | jayvee | jerc: the best way is actually the way I was doing originally, but unfortunately looks like it's broken |
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10:00.31 | jerc | maybe if you use expert mode you could modify sources.list before the taskel stuff? |
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10:05.39 | abrotman | jayvee: there's a jessie netinst |
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10:08.15 | jerc | yeah i found it thanks abrotman |
10:08.17 | jerc | https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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10:10.44 | abrotman | oh, sorry, mistab |
10:11.13 | jayvee | abrotman: ah okay, doesn't look like it's on my local mirror, http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian/ |
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10:15.45 | tasab | hi all , tried to install some program , but unfortunately failed , can you pls have a look to the FF link and give a hlp if possible pls . tks http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/14/0530/h_1401474763_8057877_4dbe2c990c.png |
10:15.49 | doev | In many howtos for wheezy I read to edit "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/..." but the correct path is "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/..." on my laptop. Is something wrong? |
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10:17.07 | abrotman | doev: no, the correct path is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
10:17.20 | abrotman | jayvee: yeah, they don't all mirror everything |
10:18.30 | doev | abrotman, I check two installations, both put it in "/usr/share" |
10:18.43 | abrotman | two what installations? |
10:18.55 | doev | wheezy |
10:19.01 | doev | my desktop and the notebook |
10:19.10 | abrotman | doev: if you're trying to configure Xorg, it goes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
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10:20.09 | jayvee | whereas a package is likely to auto-install stuff to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
10:20.11 | doev | abrotman, ah, reading helps. in /usr/share/ are only example files |
10:20.12 | jayvee | apples and oranges |
10:20.27 | abrotman | doev: Good luck |
10:20.32 | doev | thx |
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10:31.52 | Starf0x | Hello! I just installed Debian 7 on my Asus laptop with an Elantech touchpad. |
10:32.22 | Starf0x | I noticed from my Xorg log that it sees it as a PS/2 device instead of using the synaptics driver, which doesn't allow me to use the Wikia's instructions on allowing vertical scrolling |
10:32.27 | Starf0x | Is there some sort of work around for this? |
10:32.43 | abrotman | you probably need to configure Xorg to use the synaptics driver instead |
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10:33.38 | Starf0x | How would I do something like that? |
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10:42.20 | lucido | I'm looking for a solution for making a "sound server" where osx,ubuntu,windxp and win8 clints could seamlessly stream all their audio to a debian server connected to an amp where it would be mixed together and output to the amp. Is this feasible or is it a "world piece" kind of initiative? |
10:42.53 | lucido | peace* |
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10:43.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | Starf... |
10:44.06 | doev | after adding "acpi_backlight=vendor" to drub cmd, finally backlight keys are working, badly a get a complete freeze on my laptop after playing around. Any ideas? |
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10:47.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | doev, look at logs as you are able? you can possibly get more logs if you /msg dpkg netconsole |
10:48.42 | doev | CutMeOwnThroat, I try ... what I know so far, it crash when I use volume/brightnes keys at the same time. |
10:48.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | lucido, what software would do that even among linux machines? |
10:49.16 | doev | no ping is able after the crash |
10:49.20 | lucido | CutMeOwnThroat, pulseaudio and jack comes to mind |
10:49.23 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: mpd perhaps |
10:49.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | doev, or possibly going to the text console that logs kernel messages is enough |
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10:51.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, mpd possibly, but I have my doubt about a windows client |
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10:52.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, and rplay |
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10:59.41 | ectospasm | I'm having trouble setting up a serial console on my wheezy router. On my workstation, I see the pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0, but minicom just says Offline. I followed this guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-setup-serial-console-on-debian-linux/ |
11:01.54 | ectospasm | I'm suspecting the cable. I have a male USB to male DB9 RS232 cable, with a DB9 gender changer so it will fit into the male DB9 port on my router. |
11:02.32 | doev | CutMeOwnThroat, I keep an eye on syslog and doing stress the volume/brightnes-keys. There was no special error at the time of crach, but from time to time I saw: samsung_laptop: SABI get command 0x10 failed with completion flag 0x00 and data 0x01 |
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11:03.37 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: minicom is complicated; as long as it says offline, you can't do anything with it; but the fact it says online does not mean your line is broken ... |
11:03.50 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: and very often, other ways may work |
11:03.57 | ectospasm | It doesn't say online |
11:04.34 | ectospasm | minicom is what I'm used to, though I haven't used it in probably over a year (left that job at the end of June last year) |
11:04.41 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: misstype: the fact it says offline does not mean the cable is bad => chat may work with other tools |
11:04.54 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: in most cases, baudrate is bad |
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11:05.18 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: or minicom did not send the correct chat init (usually a break) |
11:05.21 | ectospasm | Yeah, I found another guide that suggested 115200, which was fine at said job. |
11:05.32 | googolol | how to copy a file in terminal |
11:05.39 | ectospasm | googolol: man cp |
11:05.42 | googolol | learning bash here |
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11:05.54 | googolol | throwd windows away |
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11:05.59 | googolol | thanks |
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11:06.15 | ectospasm | that may have been premature, better have a safe haven for research. |
11:06.19 | doublehp_ | googolol: you need to read a tuto for linux beginners |
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11:08.00 | doublehp_ | googolol: never install one system on a machine; always have 2, or 3. I always put at least 2 linux; and this is not new; Windows includes an internal disaster recovery tool (F8 and so). if you have only one linux, and it breaks, you can't fix it. You need two. |
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11:08.39 | ectospasm | or at least know how to boot your existing system into single user mode |
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11:08.47 | r0x | is there another channel for debian-developers or is discussed all there? |
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11:09.06 | doublehp_ | r0x: yes |
11:09.08 | ectospasm | r0x: are you packaging something for Debian? |
11:09.27 | ectospasm | may try #debian-mentors@oftc |
11:09.28 | abrotman | r0x: "there" ? |
11:09.41 | r0x | *here |
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11:09.46 | abrotman | r0x: there are numerous developer channels, depends what you're looking for |
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11:11.11 | doublehp_ | I have two disks with GPT, and one grub each; first grub must chainload the second; it used to work yesterday; after messing the second /boot, the second grub does not work; BIOS maye have changed disk order (there are other disks). Any one can help reinstalling grub on second disk ? |
11:11.31 | doublehp_ | from boot to boot, debian detects it randomly as sdb, or sde, or sdi ... |
11:11.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | doev, what kernel is that? |
11:12.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | doev, there's a buntu bug on it from 2011 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/896606 |
11:12.29 | ectospasm | doublehp_: can't you use UUIDs, and not have to worry about what is /dev/sda, etc.? |
11:12.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | doev, should also check debian kernel bugs if something turned up there (this was from gockel) |
11:13.00 | n8w | <PROTECTED> |
11:13.57 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: first grub finds the second disk using uuid of some partition; issue is that the second grub does not start as it should (nothing at all, or immediate reboot, or "grub" on screen", or other issues) |
11:14.19 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: i tried to chainload; maybe i should try an other approach |
11:14.44 | doublehp_ | ectospasm: can reload the second menu without chainloading the boot block ? |
11:14.55 | ectospasm | I dunno, I'm not a grub guru |
11:15.07 | doev | CutMeOwnThroat, sounds like my problem. 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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11:16.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | doev, only the bug claims it has been fixed in 3.0.x kernels... you could try older 3.0 kernels to see if it's a regression |
11:16.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, kernels |
11:16.49 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.15-rc7-686-pae (3.15~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.4-1); jessie: 3.14-1-686-pae (3.14.4-1); wheezy-backports: 3.14-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.14.4-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.54-2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
11:17.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell doev about snapshots |
11:17.33 | Yoshi1 | how do i get this digital clock widget to set the date and time automatically |
11:17.53 | abrotman | it probably already does? |
11:18.03 | Yoshi1 | because i am tired of having to manually set it |
11:18.10 | doev | CutMeOwnThroat, thx. I have to watch the problem. I can't reproduce the crash for 5 minutes now. |
11:18.16 | Yoshi1 | it keeps jumping forward 4 hours |
11:18.20 | Yoshi1 | the tyime zones are set properly |
11:18.30 | Yoshi1 | but it still keeps jumping ahead 4 hours |
11:18.35 | abrotman | Yoshi1: you dual boot with Windows? |
11:18.39 | Yoshi1 | no |
11:19.00 | abrotman | Yoshi1: sounds like something is off between your timezone and your clock sync |
11:19.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Yoshi1 about set the time |
11:19.15 | ectospasm | I wouldn't set the clock from a widget, I'd use ntp and let the system set itself. |
11:19.37 | Yoshi1 | what the hell is <stp> |
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11:19.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, you want the system time to be correct and all widgets show system time |
11:20.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | and not something else... |
11:20.13 | Yoshi1 | sorry <ntp> |
11:20.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, ntp |
11:20.23 | dpkg | The Network Time Protocol (NTP) is used to synchronize the clocks of computer systems over a network. "aptitude install ntp" is enough to get going and synchronise your clock using the default ntp pool. http://wiki.debian.org/NTP http://www.ntp.org/ See also <set time>, <pool.ntp>. |
11:20.35 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: i have ntp installed |
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11:21.05 | abrotman | Yoshi1: and what? did you read the rest? |
11:21.17 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: what does "TZ=UTC date" say? |
11:21.19 | abrotman | did you set your timezone correctly? are you set for UTC? what is the hwclock ? |
11:21.38 | Yoshi1 | jelly-home: i have no idea what command to run to check that |
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11:21.52 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: that's the command. |
11:22.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | Yoshi1, the words in <> parantheses are other factoids that you can get from dpkg in the query window (or from here doing e.g. /msg dpkg ntp |
11:22.07 | Yoshi1 | yoshi@psilokahn:~/Downloads/ATLauncher$ TZ=UTC date |
11:22.07 | Yoshi1 | Sat May 31 07:21:56 UTC 2014 |
11:22.20 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: your clock is 4 hours late |
11:22.20 | abrotman | Yoshi1: you're in US Eastern ? |
11:22.22 | googolol | how come you cant see .zip files in terminal |
11:22.28 | abrotman | can't see? |
11:22.37 | Yoshi1 | yes i am in eastern |
11:22.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | "best seen with open eyes"? |
11:22.40 | googolol | viewed as text |
11:22.44 | ectospasm | aha! I don't think this cable is a null modem cable |
11:22.47 | abrotman | googolol: it's compressed? |
11:22.57 | ectospasm | I will need to find a gender changer which is also null modem |
11:22.58 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: yes est |
11:23.11 | ectospasm | (both sides are DCE) |
11:23.12 | abrotman | Yoshi1: Sounds like either your hwclock is wrong or your timezone is wrong |
11:23.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | googolol, what do you mean "viewed as text" it's an archive of all kinds of files |
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11:25.08 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: how do i check the timezone i am certain my hardware clock is right |
11:25.11 | ectospasm | er, both sides are DTE |
11:25.18 | abrotman | Yoshi1: why are you certain? |
11:25.28 | Yoshi1 | cause i looked on reboot |
11:26.08 | abrotman | Yoshi1: cat /etc/timezone |
11:26.14 | abrotman | is pretty sure this is all in the factoid ? |
11:26.43 | Yoshi1 | what factoid? |
11:27.05 | abrotman | dpkg tell Yoshi1 about set the time |
11:27.08 | abrotman | dpkg tell Yoshi1 about timezone |
11:27.11 | abrotman | dpkg tell Yoshi1 about utc |
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11:27.30 | Yoshi1 | the cat says america/toronto |
11:27.36 | Yoshi1 | which it should |
11:27.46 | abrotman | Yoshi1: what does "hwclock" return ? |
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11:28.40 | Yoshi1 | hwclock not a command |
11:29.08 | abrotman | it is if you're root |
11:29.39 | abrotman | Yoshi1: is your time wrong at the moment? |
11:29.42 | Yoshi1 | ok that command is off by 4 hours |
11:29.47 | Yoshi1 | but my bios clock shouldnt be |
11:29.53 | abrotman | do you wan tto double check? |
11:29.54 | Yoshi1 | and yes my time is now wrong |
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11:30.09 | googolol | how come mv can rename files or folders |
11:30.26 | abrotman | what? |
11:30.37 | jelly-home | Yoshi1: if your timezone is incorrect, the clock may be right but you might be _reading_ it incorrectly |
11:30.40 | googolol | http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_lts0050.php |
11:30.56 | googolol | says here that mv can rename or move files/folders |
11:31.01 | abrotman | yes, so what? |
11:31.06 | abrotman | why is that confusing? |
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11:31.47 | googolol | thought there would be a seperate command to rename |
11:32.01 | abrotman | there is also a rename command, but it works differently |
11:32.07 | googolol | oh |
11:33.09 | Yoshi1 | i ran hwclock -u i hope that fixes it |
11:33.23 | abrotman | probably not .. |
11:33.26 | Yoshi1 | yeap looks likke hwclock now reads correct time |
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11:44.22 | ectospasm | googolol: in UNIX-land, moving and renaming are the same thing. |
11:44.33 | lanodan | I got some problems with permissions http://the-delta.net/paste.txt |
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11:51.32 | abrotman | lanodan: chmod u+x . |
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11:52.33 | lanodan | abrotman: Oh yes, I always forget the execution permissions on directories xD |
11:52.54 | abrotman | we can see that |
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11:56.22 | googolol | what is the rename command |
11:56.24 | googolol | ren? |
11:56.29 | Nik05 | googolol mv |
11:56.57 | sandman13 | ren is for windows I guess |
11:57.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | as already said... there is a "rename", too, but it's for mass-renaming according to some scheme expressed by an substitution pattern |
11:57.59 | googolol | oh |
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11:58.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's what you answered to the nearly same reply about 10 minutes ago... |
11:59.06 | abrotman | I said that! |
11:59.36 | googolol | I didnt know it was for mass renaming |
11:59.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, you answered it, he said "oh" |
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12:12.33 | googolol | how to do rm but only move it to the trash |
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12:13.05 | abrotman | no such thing |
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12:13.50 | sandman13 | googolol: if you use DE then you can just delete it, rm means shift+delete |
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12:15.13 | googolol | is there a command to move to the trash |
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12:16.57 | liske1 | i don't know but when you can't rm then you can create new folder in name trash and move in this folder |
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12:18.45 | sandman13 | googolol: google it |
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12:20.07 | liske1 | googolol install trash-cli |
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12:20.36 | liske1 | and then you have trash-put command... |
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12:21.33 | googolol | thanks |
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12:22.04 | googolol | does ubuntu get bugs |
12:22.55 | googolol | like all the time I mean |
12:23.14 | googolol | when I try to do stuff in windows I always get errors |
12:25.22 | abrotman | googolol: This is not #ubuntu, ask them |
12:25.36 | googolol | oh I mean debian |
12:26.06 | abrotman | All software has bugs |
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12:26.20 | googolol | yeah but is is as buggy as windows |
12:26.27 | sandman13 | yeah |
12:26.38 | sandman13 | that was for abrotman |
12:27.02 | sandman13 | googolol: Debian Stable is more stable than anything you can find |
12:27.10 | googolol | cool |
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12:27.37 | sandman13 | but it has old packages unless you use backports |
12:27.44 | sandman13 | *has got |
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12:31.37 | zykotick9 | checks calandar, nope it's saturday ;) |
12:32.58 | Bubua | hey, got question you got gnome 3.* on debian ? |
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12:34.43 | sandman13 | I have installed it once soon figured out that I could do any customization, since then using KDE |
12:34.44 | dvs | I dont |
12:35.02 | djohngo | Bubua: Yep. Among other things. |
12:35.13 | Bubua | and you dont have system with this gnome ? |
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12:35.30 | Bubua | how you did that :) i dont like systemd but want to use gnome 3.* |
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12:36.08 | zykotick9 | Bubua: wheezy sounds like it's for you then. gnome3 is "default" using cd1/dvd1 |
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12:36.56 | Bubua | well i wondering from theenical side, im using gentoo but i want to have gnome with openrc =] i have to check how its work |
12:36.57 | Bubua | ;D |
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12:40.59 | oren | Hi! libkeyutils1 has different versions on amd64 & i386 (1.5.6, 1.5.9 respectively), and that seems to caused some conflicts on multiarch |
12:41.37 | oren | (sid). Do you think I should report a bug? Why would such a different-version on different-archs case happen anyway? |
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12:47.20 | abrotman | oren: build failure .. check the logs |
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12:48.21 | oren | abrotman: where can I see the build logs? |
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12:49.05 | kingkong | how do i set permission to 777 to a dir and all its subdirs? also set limit write access to user only? |
12:49.24 | digdilem | chmod 777 * -R |
12:49.26 | abrotman | that's not what 777 means |
12:49.41 | abrotman | oren: buildd.debian.org maybe |
12:49.54 | abrotman | dpkg: tell kingkong about permissions |
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12:50.56 | John322 | I get this error. I have a HD 4000 card Check if system has the tools required for installation. fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers. /lib/modules/3.13.0-27-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system. |
12:51.33 | kingkong | thanks digdilem and abrotman |
12:52.06 | kingkong | now it's set limit write access to user only? |
12:52.19 | Extensa5630G | John322: get rid of that fglrx thingy and stick with the linux's opensource driver for amd ati gpu please, ati's proprietary fglrx thingy mess things up in linux always |
12:52.51 | John322 | Extensa5630G then tell me how to get rid of screen tearing, low performance in flash/videos and use of two monitors on the card? |
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12:53.05 | John322 | please? because right now, the open-source one is horrible |
12:53.24 | superbia | evening... im wondering if its possible to install a linux on a tablet |
12:53.29 | digdilem | kingkong, 777 means give everyone read and write perms |
12:53.39 | Extensa5630G | John322: the proprietary ati driver has many issues, the open-source driver is enough, just remove that fglrx driver you just intalled and fallback to the open-source driver |
12:53.50 | sandman13 | kingkong: what? you first set the rwx persmission to eveybody now you want to set write access to user only? what are you trying to do? |
12:53.55 | John322 | i cant install the propietary driver I get that error |
12:54.10 | Extensa5630G | John322: in my ati 3470HD, the opensource driver renders things good enough |
12:54.10 | John322 | extensa5630G im having issues with the open source drivers as i mentioned |
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12:54.32 | John322 | well it doesn't on my system and it's unstable. I can't even use two monitors with these drivers |
12:55.01 | Extensa5630G | John322: didn't you install fglrx?or at least tried to installl it? |
12:55.04 | John322 | I get artifacting if I plug in another monitor to the graphics card and black screening then finally system crash |
12:55.36 | John322 | yes I tried to when I couldn't use two monitors, and when my system hangs whenever i pull up two videos at a time |
12:55.42 | John322 | the open-source drivers are horrifying |
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12:56.09 | Extensa5630G | John322: no, they are fine, you have got debian kde? |
12:56.10 | wols_ | John322: you do not run debian. please ask in the channel of your distro |
12:56.21 | wols_ | most likely #ubuntu |
12:56.32 | oren | abortman: will chk out - thanks! |
12:57.01 | Extensa5630G | wols_: ah you CTCP'ed him, nice one. |
12:57.09 | wols_ | no |
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12:57.18 | abrotman | Extensa5630G: no, his kernel version isn't a Debian kernel |
12:57.23 | Extensa5630G | wols_: how did you know that he has ubuntu :p |
12:57.30 | sandman13 | good guess i think |
12:57.36 | oobarf | .msg nickserv help |
12:57.39 | abrotman | Seriously ... |
12:58.01 | sandman13 | Extensa5630G: those problems occur in ubuntu only I guess |
12:58.01 | Extensa5630G | abrotman: ah alright..so the kernel version my denote to the distro's name/type |
12:58.08 | abrotman | ... |
12:58.28 | abrotman | !permasunday |
12:58.28 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday! http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
12:58.34 | Extensa5630G | sandman13: that fglrx thingy messed my debian before :) |
12:58.38 | Extensa5630G | abrotman: what? |
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12:59.05 | Extensa5630G | switches to wlan0 interface |
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13:00.24 | kingkong | digdilem hmm i see thx :) |
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13:00.41 | kingkong | sandman13 some sentence mixed my mind :) |
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13:01.16 | kingkong | When in doubt, you can always set the storage folder's (and its subfolder's) permissions to 777, however it is recommended to limit the write access to apache's user only. |
13:01.39 | kingkong | it's written as like that, mixed me :) |
13:01.50 | abrotman | kingkong: you hsuld *never* do that |
13:01.55 | sandman13 | kingkong: ah |
13:02.00 | abrotman | kingkong: that's almost always the wrong solution |
13:02.38 | sandman13 | setting 777 means full access to everyone kingkong |
13:03.49 | kingkong | but it's coder wrote this on installation page |
13:04.09 | kingkong | i'm trying to follow these steps at http://sayakb.github.io/sticky-notes/pages/install/ |
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13:07.40 | sandman13 | kingkong: that means "give full permission temporarily just for testing. Once you have verified give write access to apache's user only" |
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13:10.02 | kingkong | ok sandman13 thx, i didnt know this |
13:10.14 | kingkong | already its not worked :) |
13:10.34 | kingkong | i should find its help channel or author |
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13:12.29 | horsik | i get xsession errors but they show in tty and aren't logged in .xsession-errors |
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13:12.56 | horsik | how can i fix it? i start x using startx |
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13:14.08 | sandman13 | horsik: what DE? |
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13:16.08 | digdilem | kingkong, you can change a single dir to be owned by apache on debian by: chown www-data.www-data directory -R |
13:16.43 | digdilem | change that dir to mode 755 (write for the user, read for the group and others) |
13:17.33 | digdilem | as others have pointed out, using 777 is not secure. It's lazy thinking, too. |
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13:17.57 | digdilem | that means any user, or any php script, or any process with potential local access can write to that directory |
13:18.05 | horsik | sandman13: i'm using qtile launched by .xinitrc, no display manager |
13:18.18 | John322 | can i ask about open source driver issues here? |
13:18.25 | abrotman | John322: please ask #ubuntu |
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13:18.36 | John322 | abrotman I have but no one helps |
13:18.39 | sandman13 | John322: not here I think ask in #ubuntu or #linux |
13:18.44 | John322 | ok ill try ty |
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13:19.09 | abrotman | John322: We already told you, we don't support Ubuntu here, goo dluck |
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13:19.56 | horsik | that was kinda bitchy of you |
13:20.04 | abrotman | no, he's offtopic and he knows it |
13:20.47 | horsik | he asked about xf86 as far as i'm concerned |
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13:20.55 | kingkong | digdilem i will run that chown command in the same dir which it's considered as 777 before? |
13:21.07 | abrotman | horsik: Please don't argue, it's not up for debate, we don't support things other than Debian here. |
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13:21.34 | horsik | sure, i don't know why you send him to ubuntu though |
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13:21.38 | digdilem | kingkong, run it in the dir above the one you want to change to apache's ownership, and change 'directory' to the name of that dir |
13:22.11 | abrotman | horsik: Because he's using ubuntu .. wtf |
13:22.51 | horsik | where did he say that |
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13:24.54 | Bubua | you have to be lazy if youre using shitbuntu |
13:24.57 | Bubua | i mean ubuntu* |
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13:27.20 | kingkong | digdilem i did 777 permission for /var/www/paste/sticky-notes-1.7/app/storage dir. and did you mean, i will run that chown command as "chown www-data.www-data /var/www/paste/sticky-notes-1.7/app/ -R" ? |
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13:28.32 | digdilem | kingkong, yes, then chmod 755 -R the same directory to undo the 777 change |
13:28.42 | digdilem | and sry, afk now |
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13:30.41 | vertebrate | kingkong: don't get into the habit of using options after arguments, though. Not all versions of getopt support that. |
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13:34.03 | dvs | keeps quiet |
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13:37.59 | kingkong | vertebrate ok :) |
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13:39.12 | kingkong | digdilem it's given me error as that http://paste.debian.net/hidden/993fc7ab/ |
13:39.59 | kopilo | anyone know of an alternative to truecypt since it has been shutdown now? |
13:40.22 | themill | kingkong: you haven't told chmod what to change |
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13:40.42 | themill | kopilo: linux has had native disk encryption for many years |
13:41.24 | kingkong | themill i dont understand... what do you mean? |
13:41.29 | kopilo | yeah looking for something for a usbdrive and possible crossplatform |
13:41.42 | kopilo | thinking maybe usb -> vm could do that |
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13:42.03 | themill | kingkong: what do you want chmod to change permissions of? You didn't tell it. |
13:42.33 | kopilo | as in putting a linux vm on a non linux host to support drive encryption |
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13:43.40 | kopilo | kingkong, should be like so: chmod 755 -R <path> |
13:43.57 | kingkong | chmod 755 *-R ? |
13:44.06 | kopilo | or chmod 755 -R /var/www/paste/sticky-notes-1.7/app/ |
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13:44.39 | vertebrate | kopilo: don't ever use a naked * anyway. If you mean everything in the current iorectory, say ./* |
13:44.56 | kopilo | yeap |
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13:45.16 | kopilo | I was also going to say that be careful with changing permissions/ownership as root |
13:45.30 | kopilo | it is one way you can break your system easily |
13:45.40 | vertebrate | I got asked to fix one of those once. |
13:45.52 | kingkong | ok thats why i'm asking here to not make mistake |
13:45.55 | kingkong | thanks all :) |
13:46.06 | vertebrate | Sadly, init was no longer able to launch getty as root, which seems crazy |
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13:46.31 | vertebrate | Still it was a Dynix system, so "crazy" was quite normal. |
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13:49.47 | rmoore | does anyone have any experience utilizing a Debian stable system for audio recording/production? |
13:50.05 | rmoore | I don't have any specific questions regarding the procedure. Just curious as to whether anyone's had any luck. |
13:50.15 | abrotman | I have .. but not for anything professional |
13:50.34 | rmoore | I'm a hobbyist. |
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13:50.56 | vertebrate | A long time ago I converted some LPs to FLAC, but I guess you are actually asking about recording of live sound. |
13:51.03 | rmoore | I'm looking to program a beat in Hydrogen and then be able to overdub vocals+guitar. Nothing fancy. |
13:51.16 | abrotman | rmoore: audacity perhaps |
13:51.27 | vertebrate | Does Jack work on stable? |
13:51.34 | rmoore | that was my next question |
13:51.48 | rmoore | because I currently use Jack in Ubuntu 14.04 and it works quite well. |
13:52.15 | kopilo | I have used jack with idjc on debian wheezy |
13:52.25 | rmoore | But I'm looking to switch to using stable packages exclusively. And I also want to "cut the umbilical" cord as it were that connects me to Ubuntu. |
13:52.29 | dury | rmoore: better if you use the distribution ArtistX http://artistx.org/blog/ |
13:53.25 | vertebrate | It's great that there are niche distributions trying to serve specific needs well. But I always wonder about the quality and timeliness of security updates. |
13:53.37 | `ryban | :) |
13:53.38 | rmoore | I think I've heard of ArtistX. I was hoping to do a straight netinstall of Debian though |
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13:53.51 | rmoore | I want to "custom build" my system, as it were. |
13:54.03 | dury | rmoore: or ubuntu Studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ |
13:54.23 | kopilo | custom build? arch? :p |
13:54.33 | rmoore | I have kind of an older dual core laptop and I don't want any packages there that I'm not actually using. |
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13:54.49 | kopilo | but yeah I know what you mean, I use the netinstall myself and then just drop xorg, slim, and openbox ontop |
13:54.57 | abrotman | rmoore: you can use Debian, jack works |
13:55.08 | vertebrate | rmoore: most of them won't make the system slow, since most of them won't run anything byu default. It's mainly daemons that you would worry about (using up RAM, if nothing else) |
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13:55.39 | rmoore | Openbox yeah. I've played with Openbox in a Crunchbang live cd. |
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13:56.08 | rmoore | It works really smooth but the editing config files for everything is alittle taxing. But you take the good with the bad I suppose. |
13:56.18 | kopilo | mm |
13:56.45 | kopilo | I haven't used jack2/net jack yet though |
13:57.33 | rmoore | Kind of a weird question. But does DE affect system temp at all? I run Ubuntu 14.04 Unity right now and it seems like no matter what my computers cooking. |
13:57.42 | rmoore | But I tried Xubuntu and it was, surprisingly, worse. |
13:58.25 | abrotman | rmoore: any running software can affect CPU usage |
13:58.26 | kopilo | iirc there is something in xfce which causes a lot of ram usage overtime |
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13:58.47 | kopilo | ^ and that |
13:59.11 | rmoore | well it seems like unity and xfce are big CPU taxers then |
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14:06.11 | Strogg | yarg... I messed up my box trying to install the arm-none-eabi toolchain |
14:06.13 | Strogg | is sad |
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14:08.54 | euvn_ | when running wine it asks for mono for .NET, etc.... what's the name of the package in the archive? |
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14:13.11 | vertebrate | rmoore: you can always try to discover it directly with something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerTOP |
14:13.34 | vertebrate | Though that might not account for power usage in the graphics chipset, I don't know. |
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14:18.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | euvn_, "mono" perhaps? |
14:18.35 | doublehp | zfs over luks. 2 pools created with http://pastebin.com/S9RmJYCJ ; after luks open, get only Home, not Gentoo_2014 ; Gentoo_2014 will be my / later (next month). What's wrong ? |
14:18.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | euvn_, also... apt-cache search ^mono --names-only |
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14:19.38 | thingamabob | hi, 8 bugs in chromium browser, debian should kick chromium :) |
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14:20.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | euvn_, or more exhaustively http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/ (you probably don't want/need unreleased preview packages, though, so better ignore that bit) |
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14:21.31 | Strogg | well crap. lol no wonder everything is busted. |
14:21.54 | Strogg | Squeeze is old stable.. jessie is testing. |
14:22.31 | Strogg | switches everything to wheezy and dist-upgrades |
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14:24.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | Strogg, might be too late... (well, everything can be pulled back with enough effort... with "too late" I mean a reinstall may be less effort than fixing stuff) |
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14:25.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | one problem is... |
14:25.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, downgrade |
14:25.06 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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14:25.54 | Strogg | CutMeOwnThroat: nahh it's ok.. I think I can figure out the deps. I was just stuck for a bit trying to figure out why everything was busted. |
14:26.45 | Strogg | It amazes me how hard it is to get the arm-none-eabi toolchain installed on a debian box |
14:27.04 | Strogg | I guess after a while, you just take for granted how awesome debian is and everything can be installed with apt-get |
14:29.09 | vertebrate | Strogg: are you using crosstool? |
14:29.22 | Strogg | googles crosstool |
14:29.31 | Strogg | vertebrate: I was trying to use the apt sources from emdebian |
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14:29.51 | vertebrate | ok, crosstool-ng |
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14:30.51 | Strogg | hrmmmmmm |
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14:30.56 | Strogg | vertebrate: looks promising, Thanks |
14:30.58 | Strogg | will try |
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14:39.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | Strogg, I last tried that for maemo... and yeah, was a bit painful then as well |
14:40.25 | Strogg | hrmmm is arm-unknown-eabi another way of saying arm-none-eabi? |
14:40.38 | Strogg | argh.. forget that. didn't read enough. my bad |
14:41.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | emdebian has its own channel, by the way |
14:41.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, emdebian |
14:41.22 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
14:41.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure how frequented that is |
14:41.40 | Strogg | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah.. I tried that and they told me to just use the emdebian sources |
14:41.57 | Strogg | but they seem really busted.. so.. I dunno. trying to build from source instead now |
14:43.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I'd stick with that they say and try to fix it together with them |
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14:43.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | if there's a problem with emdebian sources, would be good to get fixed? |
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14:44.09 | Strogg | I dunno.. I mentioned all the install conflicts, but didn't get much of a response |
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14:45.44 | Strogg | this was a couple days ago when I was at work. a bit later, someone pointed me to the archive at launchpad, so I used that. but my machine at home is amd64, not 86, so... that archive wasn't working for me |
14:45.53 | Strogg | so.. I'm here. :) |
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14:46.14 | Strogg | crosstool looks like it's making progress though, so I'm gonna let this run a bit and see what happenes |
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14:50.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | a nuclear explosion, most likely |
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15:03.18 | euvn_ | CutMeOwnThroat: it's all too complicated. Hoped to have just standard precompiled packages in the official repo. In this case, I let it just be downloaded by wine itself |
15:03.44 | Strogg | Cortex-M3 is bi-endian? wtf? |
15:03.49 | Strogg | 's mind is blown |
15:03.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | euvn_, it does have just standard precompiled packages in the official repo |
15:04.12 | euvn_ | what's the name of the packages? |
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15:04.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | "mono"? |
15:04.34 | euvn_ | CutMeOwnThroat: does not exist |
15:04.48 | euvn_ | CutMeOwnThroat: I thought it's mono-runtime , but it's also not it |
15:05.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | does... well, as a virtual package |
15:05.20 | gdm85 | hi guys. is it possible to use debconf-set-selections to rollback a system to a previous set of packages? |
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15:05.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | euvn_, and what about mono-complete - complete Mono runtime, development tools and all libraries |
15:06.12 | abrotman | gdm85: What do you think that will do for you? |
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15:06.50 | krpt | gdm85: nope, previous versions no longer exists on the repo anyway |
15:06.59 | gdm85 | abrotman: I am wondering if it will leave some files behind of the more recent packages |
15:07.09 | gdm85 | krpt: not even in archives? |
15:07.17 | abrotman | gdm85: I'm asking you what you think that program will do to help rollback packages |
15:07.24 | abrotman | gdm85: yes, you can get older packages .. but why? |
15:08.17 | euvn_ | CutMeOwnThroat: heh, 261MB of pkgs to download :-) but this might be it, will try in the future. Thanks. |
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15:14.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | euvn_, well "complete" and "small" are somewhat contrary concepts |
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15:15.34 | euvn_ | CutMeOwnThroat: depends on whether the object where "complete" refers to is abundant :-) |
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15:16.13 | gdm85 | what I am looking for is reinstalling packages at a specific version. debconf-get-selections does not specify versions.. |
15:16.23 | gdm85 | I'll use apt-get |
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15:18.46 | euvn_ | CutMeOwnThroat: but it doesn't matter. At the moment, I need my small bandwidth for other stuff, but later I will download this 1/4GB of data and be happy with it for the rest of my life, not having wine download .NET again for every WINEPREFIX |
15:18.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's just that one li'll problem |
15:18.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell gdm85 -about downgrade |
15:19.01 | abrotman | gdm85: again, you're not using the right program |
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15:21.09 | gdm85 | CutMeOwnThroat: my case is downgrades of freshly installed systems, plus only a few packages need to be downgraded |
15:21.13 | gdm85 | I could use snapshots |
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15:24.34 | Strogg | so far so good on crosstools |
15:24.41 | Strogg | refills his coffee |
15:24.55 | linuxthefish | <PROTECTED> |
15:24.58 | linuxthefish | it's down? |
15:25.14 | abrotman | resolving, DNS? |
15:25.14 | addaitech | works for me |
15:25.26 | linuxthefish | oh... |
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15:25.54 | addaitech | try using the ip 83.142.228.128 |
15:26.11 | addaitech | or the ipv6 2001:470:1f08:80b::2 |
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15:27.28 | abrotman | or fix your DNS |
15:27.42 | linuxthefish | how to i get apt-get install to use that ip? |
15:27.58 | linuxthefish | how? :/ |
15:28.01 | linuxthefish | i can't ping google.com or anything |
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15:29.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | linuxthefish, /etc/resolv.conf ... e.g. echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /resolv.conf # mind that resolv.conf is overwritten frequently by any programs thinking they're responsible for your network |
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15:30.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | err... of course echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf |
15:30.02 | linuxthefish | yeah it has nameserver 8.8.8.8 and nameserver 8.8.4.4 |
15:30.08 | linuxthefish | i can ping all ip's |
15:30.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | 8.8.8.8 is google |
15:30.29 | wols_ | linuxthefish: dig google.com what is the result? |
15:30.43 | linuxthefish | wols_ i was trying to install dig! |
15:30.57 | linuxthefish | but it can't resolve the DNS for apt-get install |
15:30.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | open the crate with the crowbar that you'll find inside the crate |
15:31.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | ^^ |
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15:31.06 | wols_ | then use nslookup instead |
15:31.22 | linuxthefish | -bash: nslookup: command not found |
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15:33.00 | linuxthefish | i added dns manually and is good :D |
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15:33.33 | linuxthefish | wols_ |
15:33.33 | linuxthefish | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
15:33.50 | wols_ | then ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
15:34.01 | linuxthefish | 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=56 time=1.42 ms |
15:34.16 | wols_ | my guess is your resolv.conf is not used or is overwritten by something else |
15:34.22 | linuxthefish | oh |
15:34.42 | wols_ | so how do you configure your network? |
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15:35.01 | linuxthefish | manual |
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15:39.37 | Strogg | echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf |
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15:42.54 | jaan0 | isn't it a matter of configuring dhclient.conf? |
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15:46.10 | jhutchins | Anybody know how to connect to google fiber storage? |
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15:46.29 | abrotman | jhutchins: there is a #google, not sure if they'd know more |
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15:49.55 | kopilo | wols: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
15:50.08 | kopilo | opps nvm sorry |
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15:53.59 | Dirkos | I got a huge load on my VPS but cant find what is causing it. |
15:53.59 | Dirkos | top - 17:52:35 up 2:26, 1 user, load average: 79.59, 76.89, 86.80 |
15:54.26 | abrotman | what's line with the breakdown? |
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15:57.09 | Dirkos | sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/24admin/2: Read-only file system |
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15:58.51 | see1 | hi |
15:59.13 | abrotman | Dirkos: you don't need sudo to run top |
15:59.28 | Strogg | just do a "ps axu" and look for the top cpu consumer |
15:59.33 | Dirkos | abrotman: well there is nothing special when i run top |
15:59.40 | Dirkos | the max CPU at top is 0.1% or something |
15:59.41 | abrotman | Dirkos: mpstat |
15:59.50 | abrotman | since you don't know what I meant by the breakdown |
16:00.00 | Dirkos | abrotman: i will try wait a sec |
16:00.11 | Dirkos | think it is crashing completely now |
16:00.21 | abrotman | Did you check logs either? |
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16:00.33 | Dirkos | cant open them cause everything is that slow |
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16:01.39 | Dirkos | gonna power cycle it now though since it is not reachable anymore |
16:02.46 | Strogg | it's probably not dead.. you'd be amazed what linux can survive. hehe |
16:02.55 | Strogg | has recovered from loads 80+ before |
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16:03.11 | Strogg | it's just... slow |
16:03.19 | Dirkos | it wasnt reachable anymore |
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16:04.32 | ska | What software is recommended to rip audio cd's in stable? Sound juicer is lacking support for MP3 and mp4 too. |
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16:05.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, audio rip |
16:05.24 | dpkg | Audio extraction/ripping applications packaged for Debian include <abcde>, <asunder>, goobox, <grip>, <jack>, <k3b>, kaudiocreator, <konqueror>, <ogmrip>, ripperx, <sound-juicer>, yaret. |
16:06.29 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ska about lame |
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16:07.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, lack of encoding support will probably not be the problem of whatever script pulls stuff together |
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16:11.21 | Dirkos | ok after the power cycle it seems to be ok again |
16:11.25 | Dirkos | anyone an idea where to look? |
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16:14.27 | Strogg | Dirkos: what was your vps doing? webserver? |
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16:14.42 | Dirkos | Strogg: yeah simple webserver (php/mysql/apache) |
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16:15.06 | Strogg | Dirkos: crappy sql queries + load spike is the usual culprit |
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16:15.16 | Strogg | check your mysql log for warnings about slow queries |
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16:15.22 | Dirkos | well its only running 1 website without even any traffic |
16:15.33 | Dirkos | and yeah we build the website ourselfs so there are no real bad queries |
16:15.41 | Strogg | hehe |
16:15.59 | Dirkos | strange thing is that my Azure portal (where it is running) also says that the CPU was on 2% all the time |
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16:16.16 | Dirkos | could it be like an IO thing? |
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16:18.49 | doublehp_ | how to have more than 8 loops ? adding "loop.max_part=250 max_part=250 max_loop=250" to kernel prompt did not help (works for other machines) |
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16:20.26 | frostschutz | doublehp_, loop devices are usually created on demand (via /dev/loop-control) |
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16:21.20 | doublehp_ | frostschutz: how to querry more ? |
16:21.55 | doublehp_ | frostschutz: arguments to add on loop line in /etc/modules ? |
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16:22.43 | frostschutz | but if you need that many you should seriously rethink your setup :P |
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16:24.18 | shawnbon206 | now that mate 1.8 is completed in jessie, is there any way to install it from netinstall? |
16:24.37 | shawnbon206 | or with tasksel |
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16:34.01 | ska | asunder rips only to ogg, lame doesn't support ogg.. |
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16:34.16 | abrotman | shawnbon206: I don't believe yet |
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16:39.43 | Strogg | YES! |
16:39.48 | Strogg | has a toolchain |
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16:40.44 | Strogg | vertebrate: Thanks a million! crosstools worked great :) |
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16:43.18 | shawnbon206 | ik |
16:43.20 | shawnbon206 | ok |
16:43.47 | shawnbon206 | gonna install with xfce and then remove xfce afterwarsa |
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17:01.16 | pieeeerre | hi. i've got a problem with my touchpad laptop. it doesn't work. I don't know how to get what's wrong (driver; physical touchpad...) i guess the system recognize it since "xinput list" list the touchpad... but i don't how to know more what's wrong. any idea please? |
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17:04.52 | pieeeerre | but xkbevd doesn't list the mouse event when i try to click/move the mouse... if anyone has a clue please |
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17:09.24 | somiaj | pieeeerre: do you see the events in 'xev' when you click on that window? I am not that familar with xkb, but to me that sounds like keyboard (not pointer) |
17:11.31 | pieeeerre | somiaj: yes... but i still can't move my mouse (quite a bit hard to use my laptop right now... erm.) |
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17:13.09 | somiaj | pieeeerre: have you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log or dmesg to see if your mouse is detected or if there are any errors? |
17:13.30 | somiaj | also by laptop mouse, do you have some hardware switch that turns it on/off (my touchpad has one) |
17:13.46 | Strogg | cries |
17:13.56 | Strogg | crosstools arm recipe doesn't support the M4. lol |
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17:14.34 | pieeeerre | somiaj: i don't think i have such a switch (if it was the case mouse click wouldn't work, right?) |
17:14.39 | pieeeerre | ok checking |
17:15.16 | somiaj | pieeeerre: its a touchpad? By mouse click do you have additional butons next to the touchpad taht work, but the touch pad isn't working? |
17:15.47 | pieeeerre | somiaj: actually i think (not sure) that the button are working, but the mouse can not move |
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17:16.42 | somiaj | pieeeerre: well I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hardware/software button that would turn off just the touch pad but not the buttons. |
17:17.18 | somiaj | pieeeerre: if it is hardware, I'd double check any buttons/switches that would disable it, if it is software I am unsure how to configure touchpads. I know there are some synamptic tools but I haven't used them. |
17:17.51 | somiaj | if it is an xorg issue, you will see what mouse was detected in Xorg.0.conf file and maybe any warngings/errors assoicated with it |
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17:18.37 | Strogg | selects a 4.4 gcc, crosses fingers and tries again |
17:18.43 | pieeeerre | somiaj: there seems to be no error in the log file. and for the switch... i don't really see how to check (no switch apparent maybe inside the computer but i don't see how i could have switched it then) |
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17:19.37 | somiaj | pieeeerre: no it would be near the mouse or maybe along the side of the laptop, it woudln't be hiding. Sometimes they are mixed with function (fn) key and you would have a blue (usually) icon on the key you have to hit in combination with the fn key |
17:19.59 | somiaj | pieeeerre: again it could be you need the synamptic configuration tools to get it to work. Do you have a usb mouse you could use for the time? |
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17:23.32 | pieeeerre | somiaj: no usb mouse... :/ and it doesn't look there is a switch... |
17:23.43 | pieeeerre | i think it's hardware problem pfff |
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17:24.50 | abrotman | checked dmesg yet? |
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17:42.08 | see1 | jo ..i try to install nodejs from this https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/backports.debian.org but it says E: Unable to locate package nodejs |
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17:43.33 | somiaj | ,v nodejs |
17:43.34 | judd | Package: nodejs on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.26~dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.10.26~dfsg1-1; sid: 0.10.28~dfsg-1 |
17:43.58 | sandman13 | ,v python3 |
17:43.59 | judd | Package: python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.3.4-1; sid: 3.4.1~rc1-1 |
17:44.03 | somiaj | see1: so you ran all three of those commands as root? |
17:44.13 | see1 | yes |
17:44.15 | SameDay | see1: You are doing it as root or with sudo, right ? |
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17:44.19 | sandman13 | ,v python2 |
17:44.20 | judd | No package named 'python2' was found in i386. |
17:44.22 | see1 | root |
17:44.24 | sandman13 | ,v python |
17:44.25 | judd | Package: python on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze7; wheezy: 2.7.3-4+deb7u1; jessie: 2.7.6-2; sid: 2.7.6-2 |
17:44.38 | somiaj | sandman13: /msg judd v python |
17:44.57 | see1 | root@j94296:~# apt-get install nodejs-legacy |
17:44.57 | see1 | Reading package lists... Done |
17:44.57 | see1 | Building dependency tree |
17:44.57 | see1 | Reading state information... Done |
17:44.57 | see1 | Package nodejs-legacy is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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17:45.07 | somiaj | sandman13: note python is just a meta package that points at the default python version, I think you can get both 2.7 and 3.2 in squeeze |
17:45.12 | see1 | sry :) |
17:46.07 | sandman13 | somiaj: does that mean I can't run python3 codes in wheezy? |
17:46.12 | see1 | what i have to do? try again? |
17:46.13 | somiaj | see1: put the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net please |
17:46.30 | somiaj | sandman13: no it means you can have both installed at the same time, and 2.7 is just the default that gets pulled in |
17:46.39 | somiaj | sandman13: you can also configure which version typing 'python' runs |
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17:47.22 | sandman13 | somiaj: i prefer using 'python' for python 2.x and 'python3' for python 3.x |
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17:48.18 | see1 | somiaj http://paste.debian.net/102703/ |
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17:48.34 | loner269 | hi |
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17:49.16 | somiaj | sandman13: that would be the default, I was just saying that you can configure that. the versions in wheezy again are 2.7 adn 3.2 you can get them both |
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17:50.01 | somiaj | see1: did you not follow the top instructions to first add wheezy-backport sources to your sources.list and then run apt-get update? |
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17:50.10 | somiaj | see1: you do nothave wheezy-backport sources so it can't find the packages |
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17:50.40 | see1 | i do the steps...dunno i add it |
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17:51.13 | somiaj | see1: what you pasted said you didn't do the steps as root |
17:51.26 | somiaj | see1: did you run the echo foo >> /etc/apt/sources.list using 'sudo' and not as root? |
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17:52.01 | see1 | as root |
17:52.02 | ompaul | apt-get update after that |
17:52.16 | somiaj | see1: can you put a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list at paste.debian.net |
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17:53.47 | see1 | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main |
17:53.49 | see1 | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
17:53.54 | see1 | i miss it |
17:53.56 | see1 | right |
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17:55.34 | somiaj | see1: well was hoping you put the whole output, but you must have not run those exact commands as root, because there is no evidence you did |
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17:56.27 | see1 | anyway i am new to that stuff |
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17:56.54 | see1 | cool chan ..btw is not logged to the damn www or? |
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17:59.29 | loner269 | has anyone installed a debian with out usb cd/dvd i got a link but it seems confusing to me basicly it says i can install it with out anything other than a few files i can give the link if it helps just want to know if i can install it this way an if so can someone help me with it |
18:00.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | see1, there's 1500 nicks in here... of course someone will log it and put the logs on www... |
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18:00.40 | SameDay | loner269: are you using a URL to install (HTTP://) |
18:00.46 | abrotman | it is logged |
18:01.09 | somiaj | loner269: there are various ways to achive what you want. What method are you tryign to use to install, boot from a flopy drive? You could also just remove the harddrive put it into another machine and use debootstrap to install it on the drive |
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18:03.30 | see1 | CutMeOwnThroat but not official :) |
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18:04.26 | abrotman | dpkg: tell see1 about irclog |
18:05.26 | see1 | abrotman thx :/ |
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18:08.06 | abrotman | why the silly face? |
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18:10.53 | see1 | abrotman i do not like logging irc chans to the puplic www |
18:11.51 | abrotman | see1: then you sohuld probably not use the internet at all. |
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18:12.15 | cra1g321 | good job abrotman |
18:12.24 | abrotman | ? |
18:12.30 | cra1g321 | the kick |
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18:17.33 | see1 | abrotman naa the internet is not the web only |
18:18.01 | abrotman | Uhm, I didn't say it was .. My statement still stands |
18:18.32 | see1 | np :) and i stay here ..logged |
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18:27.00 | AndChat|624225 | Soooo! |
18:27.33 | AndChat|624225 | I just got a Debian USB stick in the mail from Prizix/Unix Academy |
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18:28.21 | AndChat|624225 | It comes with dvds but the USB itself won't install anything. It's just live Debian. Apparently. |
18:29.04 | AndChat|624225 | The dvds are useless to me on an eeepc, unless I go out and buy a USB DVD drive too. |
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18:29.43 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: But you can still use the USB to install the OS |
18:30.15 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: it doesn't seem to do so. |
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18:31.02 | frostschutz | ... |
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18:31.28 | nurupo | AndChat|624225: you could always just download the Debian image and make some magic so that you could boot it from the usb stick |
18:31.30 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: even you have an Internet connection ? |
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18:32.13 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: It's on wifi, yes |
18:32.17 | loner269 | sorry im back my xchat keeps dien on me |
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18:33.05 | AndChat|624225 | nurupo: From here, I know can install grub2 and memdisk to get something going. |
18:33.25 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: So boot from USB, you get a menu, before boot, "install,,, " You don't get a menu at all ? |
18:33.28 | tethra | anyone know of a nice pre-existing vimrc with nerdtree arranged nicely on the left of the screen on start, a la gedit? |
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18:34.22 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: that "Install" menu item goes to Debian-installer, which then looks for a DVD. |
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18:35.29 | ompaul | try a different usb port |
18:35.55 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: You don't have an option to install from URL ? |
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18:37.31 | jhutchins | How can I identify details of a video - encoding, etc? |
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18:39.45 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: No |
18:40.25 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: do you have the URL where you bought this USB drive ? |
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18:42.14 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009R21YTS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
18:42.21 | loner269 | somiaj you know alot on this if so can you or someone pm me im wantin to install debian but dont have any blank cd/dvd an i cant boot from usb |
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18:43.21 | AndChat|624225 | ompaul: Trying that now |
18:43.35 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: Did you also get the DVD's in that package ? |
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18:43.54 | AndChat|624225 | As I said, yes. |
18:44.08 | SameDay | So.. you can't install from DVD either ? |
18:44.12 | AndChat|624225 | But, this is an eeepc. I don't have a DVD drive. |
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18:45.46 | AndChat|624225 | At this point, unless the "Install Debian wheezy" thing in Debian live decides to work, my options are: buy a USB DVD drive, or install grub2 and memdisk then boot from an iso. |
18:45.56 | AndChat|624225 | And install that way. |
18:45.58 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: From the URL: "Install, or run your favorite Linux directly from USB flash, without touching anything on your Windows! If you require DVD installation the media is included too!", Are you sure you're not missing anything ? |
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18:46.26 | SameDay | And how does that "install deb... " fail on you ? |
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18:47.19 | AndChat|624225 | Well, it gives me a pinwheel... |
18:47.23 | AndChat|624225 | And then that's it. |
18:48.05 | AndChat|624225 | Is there some way to run it from a root terminal? |
18:48.48 | SameDay | cat you paste tail -f /var/log/syslog , while you are clicking on the "install deb" ? |
18:49.58 | justanotheruser | average: back from your meeting yet? |
18:49.59 | SameDay | into here: http://paste.debian.net/ |
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18:52.15 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: it says "Sense Key : Hardware error [current]" |
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18:52.58 | AndChat|624225 | Then "Add. Sense: No additional sense information" |
18:53.30 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: Does the EEE have a Ethernet Jack ? or, do you have a USB Ethernet device ? |
18:54.11 | AndChat|624225 | It has one, but I'm on wifi. No ether net cables for me. |
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18:55.18 | SameDay | how about the output of "dmesg |tail -20" |
18:56.12 | AndChat|624225 | All the same. The ioctl_internal_command return code = 8070000 |
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18:56.43 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: also, are you chatting from the EEE right now ? by that I mean, does the debian live boot with networking ? |
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18:57.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhutchins, "mediainfo" |
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18:57.28 | AndChat|624225 | I'm chatting from my tablet, SameDay |
18:57.55 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: does the EEE have Internet access ?, with the Wifi ? |
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19:01.28 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: paste.debian.net/102710 |
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19:02.45 | [TheFlash] | hi |
19:02.50 | loner269 | hi |
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19:03.06 | [TheFlash] | will SysV init be available in debian 8 (jessie)? |
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19:05.16 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: Is the paste right after / during the click on "install .. ", or is it just recent ? , also, if you want to try as root, as you asked, open a terminal, issue "sudo su" and navigate to where the install file is, and execute it. |
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19:07.10 | [TheFlash] | if not, is there any way to completely disable PolicyKit? |
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19:08.58 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: Right after |
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19:10.13 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: So far, google shows only bug results after that error. mm.. donno what to say. I'm not sure if I got the answer about if you do have Internet connection, currently, on the EEE |
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19:13.11 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: Well, if I can mount the hard drive, I can install grub2 and memdisk. Then boot and install from an iso. If not, I'm off to buy a DVD drive. |
19:13.47 | SameDay | alright, you should be able to issue: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt |
19:13.56 | AndChat|624225 | Prizix, however, will be hearing from me. |
19:13.58 | SameDay | is that a blank drive ? |
19:14.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | AndChat|624225, http://live.debian.net/manual/stable/html/live-manual.en.html#579 |
19:15.20 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: /dev/sda1 does not exist |
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19:15.35 | SameDay | what's your 'fdisk -l' result ? |
19:16.42 | AndChat|624225 | Ah! It's sda4 |
19:16.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | AndChat|624225, well and you'll need network in any way |
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19:17.39 | SameDay | try mounting it as sda4, you should have more partitions, but I have not a clue as for what is /was installed there before. |
19:18.03 | SameDay | BTW everybody, good show tonight, C2C AM: Art Bell, Somewhere in TIme, and tonight, a show about "how computers how are going to be", words from a computer expert, from 1994. |
19:18.35 | AndChat|624225 | It was openbsd. Long story. So now I need to mount an ffs... |
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19:18.52 | SameDay | A line from the show's presentation: "and how one can get online using "super fast" 14.4 modems! " |
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19:19.20 | googolol | can you switch user sessions via command line |
19:19.26 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: if the data there is no longer valuable, fdisk it, mkfs it, and mount it. |
19:20.09 | jmcnaught | googolol: man su |
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19:20.34 | googolol | thanks |
19:20.42 | SameDay | get the iso, and follow your plan. I did not get enough lines of output from dmesg and systog to do sufficient research. I'm off to finish my warm afternoon beer, and a bad egg sandwich. |
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19:22.17 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: gross, lol. Thank you buddy. :) |
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19:25.34 | googolol | unix commands sound jike japanese |
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19:29.45 | jimishol | pls help me clarify my problem. on old laptop i had ubuntu+windows and a 16GB usb stick with squeeze. Liked squeeze with gnome2+compiz and decided to repair it, format the disk and install stable debian+gnome on it for my son. So i came with wheezy +gnomeshell that falls to classic. Now im writing from wheezy and glxinfo doesnt show GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two If i boot with usbstick in squeeze 'non_power_of_two' is there!!! how ca |
19:29.48 | jimishol | n it be? have i chances to see gnome-shell standard if i resolve this? my card is Intel® 852GM/855GM x86/MMX/SSE2 |
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19:33.56 | ompaul | compiz is dead - gnome 2 is dead - what was the question |
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19:34.49 | ompaul | jimishol: ^^ from the compiz site: The latest stable release of Compiz is 0.8.8. A C++ rewrite has been announced on 24th December 2009 and is now released as a beta version (0.9.5.x). This is a major rework of the whole project, aimed at easing future development. |
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19:36.15 | jimishol | glxinfo with squeeze shows up GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two but wheezy dont. now i see OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc in wheezy and OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project in squeeze. have i wrong drivers? |
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19:37.48 | jimishol | i cant believe that my 3d accelaration is nt enough for gnome3. something i can do :) |
19:37.51 | ompaul | jimishol: you might want to teleport to the future ;-) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5285389/opengl-white-textures-on-other-pc |
19:40.12 | jimishol | i read that and somewhere that this variable is used by gnome to blaclist my card and fall to classic. but i have it with kernel 2.6.... something with squeeze |
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19:41.31 | ompaul | squeeze isn't supported any more hasn't been for a long time |
19:41.35 | lostNick | how to check if vino is running fine and on what port |
19:41.55 | ompaul | lostNick: lsof tells you what is attached to what |
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19:42.19 | googolol | pen is broke |
19:42.20 | lostNick | oh ok ompaul i check it |
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19:43.12 | jimishol | if i try to use ppa:glasen/intel-driver is it without risk to broke mesa etc ... |
19:44.33 | ompaul | jimishol: that is not something we can talk about that is ubuntu not debian |
19:44.33 | dragostini | Hi everyone, I've got a VPS with Wheezy on it, and am trying to set up encfs, however it's giving me an error telling me FUSE doesn't exist. so I check demsg and get the error "fuse: Unknown symbol nosteal_pipe_buf_ops (err 0)" I've been googling, but can't turn up anything definitive... |
19:46.00 | ompaul | dragostini: that might be that your VPS doesn't support it and you need to talk to your supplier at whatever their support rate is FUSE support requires that the kernel support it |
19:46.13 | jimishol | ah no p. Any suggestion why GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two disappeared on wheezy? |
19:46.21 | dragostini | Gotcha, thanks ompaul |
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19:46.43 | lostNick | lsof shows too much info, and i need too just vino is working or not. and on what port |
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19:47.23 | ompaul | lostNick: you are lost then | grep vino or whatever also a search engine how to find the default port of vino might tell you |
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19:48.27 | lostNick | the desktop sharing icon was easy way to run vino and from remote it was easy to connect. look like my vino is not running. how to check that |
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19:50.09 | lostNick | please tell me how i can run vino or check vino. |
19:50.12 | teraflops | chck from where? |
19:50.18 | teraflops | check/ |
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19:50.30 | shawnbon206 | does anyone know how to prevent mate or xfce from switching desktops when trying to scroll (mouse wheel) a focused window?? |
19:50.53 | lostNick | check from client that is my tablet and vino is on 10.42.0.1 |
19:51.52 | teraflops | from the client is easy |
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19:52.12 | lostNick | teraflops yes it was very easy before |
19:52.14 | likevinyl | ├────┤Playing... ├──────────┤ Master 100% ├───┤>000:01:44├┤ |
19:52.15 | likevinyl | │ > 3 2 Minutos - !Que Mala Suerte! (Valentín Alsina 1988-1993) |
19:52.29 | likevinyl | ;) |
19:52.39 | teraflops | if you cant connect is not runnig or almost is not functional so iths the same anyway likevinyl |
19:52.57 | teraflops | i meant lostNick |
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19:54.14 | lostNick | teraflops when i type vino i terminal i i get command not found |
19:54.25 | lostNick | in terminal **** |
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19:56.16 | lostNick | kindly, let me know what to do,to fix vino |
19:57.01 | teraflops | lostNick: sorry i think you honour you nick :P |
19:57.38 | lostNick | teraflops i do not understand, sorry |
19:57.59 | loner269 | :)nice tera lol |
19:58.33 | teraflops | yeah lostNick thats what I mean |
19:59.21 | lostNick | teraflops , did i miss something ? |
19:59.42 | lostNick | teraflops i will fix my English later :p |
19:59.49 | jmcnaught | lostNick: i think teraflops just means that you really do seem lost |
20:00.12 | lostNick | yes, i know i am lost along with my nick |
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20:00.22 | lostNick | kindly, help me to run vino |
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20:00.49 | lostNick | i have to work and i think there is easy thing i miss |
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20:01.32 | lostNick | is there any student who like to help grandpa? |
20:01.37 | lostNick | lol |
20:02.13 | lostNick | hmm, |
20:02.22 | lostNick | bad time, gtg |
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20:04.23 | loner269 | ok my turn 1 ?? but 2 parts an so ya know im new |
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20:05.30 | loner269 | can i d/l the iso an open it an hit the installer rite now im on opensuse an i dont like it lol if so how can i if not ty sorry i botherd you all |
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20:08.19 | jmcnaught | loner269: I don't think you you simply open the ISO in another distro. You could probably use debootstrap to install from within another Linux distro, but it would probably be easier to read and follow the instructions here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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20:08.57 | loner269 | ok ty for your time ill go read |
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20:15.20 | loner269 | its over my head i got no blank cd/dvd my tower wont do usb but i have 1 an the net install sounded perfict till i was readin an started gettin confused is there an easyer way? |
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20:15.36 | rtzui | Hi. Is it possible to split a debian installation into two parts? It should look something like this: A base system is installed on a HDD/SDD, and other, less frequently used packages are stored somewhere, on a cheaper, slower drive, say a network share. |
20:16.09 | rtzui | I guess packages chouldn't handle different prefixes, but there is a unionmount |
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20:21.43 | rtzui | Or does dpkg --root simply do the job? Do the configuration scripts deal with this` |
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20:22.05 | engla | is there a way to have checkinstall use gzip when compressing the .deb? The default .xz is very slow |
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20:29.35 | jmcnaught | loner269: keep reading the manual, look stuff up if you don't understand. People here are generally willing to help, but you've got to put some effort in yourself including reading the manuals. You could always give it a shot and if you run into problems and researching the issue yields no results, then ask for help. |
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20:32.42 | loner269 | i know it jm but i dun redid this thing more times than i care to count is all lol but i do read alot so maybe 1 of these days ill get it figured out like i said b4 sorry to bother you all |
20:34.04 | Squ4lli | Can someone help me? I'm on jessie and i can't get my wireless card work on my laptop |
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20:35.36 | trampel | Squ4lli: someone smarter than me might eventually suggest you take your jessie questions to "debian-next (irc.oftc.net)" as per this group's topic header |
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20:36.06 | googolol | does debian have any default rcp shares |
20:36.34 | googolol | macos and windows shares 3 by default |
20:36.42 | krpt | anyone when upgrading to sid had " systemd-sysv:amd64 conflicts with sysvinit:amd64" multiple message leading to a segfault of apt-get ? |
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20:37.02 | Squ4lli | ok thx trampel i'll try |
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20:40.35 | stockholm | #electronics |
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20:49.04 | Reelax | hey what was the name of the tool to edit font size of windows , enable gnome fallback etc |
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20:49.11 | Reelax | gtk-blabla-tools |
20:49.17 | Reelax | something like that |
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20:49.46 | googolol | does debian share any folder by default? |
20:50.30 | sparky4 | looks like debian testing dose not work well on a Thinkpad T440p |
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20:52.12 | Reelax | nvm |
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20:52.27 | ompaul | sparky4: what now? |
20:52.43 | sparky4 | ompaul: i ment stable >< |
20:52.58 | sparky4 | driver issues |
20:53.00 | sparky4 | mainly |
20:53.08 | ompaul | sparky4: apt-cache search thinkpad |
20:53.11 | ompaul | enjoy |
20:53.19 | sparky4 | ok |
20:53.39 | sparky4 | well i upgraded from squeeze... |
20:54.00 | ompaul | then you are doing it wrong |
20:54.08 | ompaul | it should work brilliantly |
20:54.29 | sparky4 | hmmm |
20:54.29 | ompaul | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and tell me how that goes |
20:55.18 | googolol | can you use su if the account has a password |
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20:57.45 | ompaul | googolol: su - foo |
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20:58.08 | sparky4 | ompaul: i am upgrading to jessie ^^; |
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20:59.17 | googolol | does debian use an ID for a user logon session too |
20:59.26 | googolol | well, the terminal |
20:59.43 | googolol | eg su - 0 |
20:59.49 | ompaul | no |
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21:01.07 | googolol | is su the equivalent to tscon |
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21:02.07 | googolol | that disconnects or connects to another user, local or remote |
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21:20.49 | nabblet | hi, how can i make german umlaute, like ä,ö and so on available to my system? as you can see i can type them in irssi, but i can not type them xterm. i can use them in libre office and thuar, but sometimes thuna has trouble too (displays a '?' instead and renames the file by appending '(invalid encoding)') |
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21:21.22 | nabblet | my locales are set to 'C' |
21:21.37 | xand | change locale to a utf8 one |
21:21.47 | shawnbon206 | are those supposed to look like ? in diamonds? |
21:21.56 | nabblet | yes |
21:22.00 | shawnbon206 | ok |
21:22.01 | nabblet | shawnbon206: |
21:22.02 | rtzui | de_DE.UTF-8 |
21:22.05 | rtzui | for example |
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21:22.47 | shawnbon206 | tell me, what is � even for? |
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21:23.00 | nabblet | rtzui: i'd prefer to keep my locales "vanilla" - e.g. i hadly use german markup for numbers |
21:23.06 | xand | invalid character symbol |
21:23.08 | nabblet | xand: oh, that sounds promising |
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21:23.21 | nabblet | about the UTF8 idea |
21:24.15 | shawnbon206 | nabblet: tell me, what is � even for? |
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21:24.36 | Mikaela | shawnbon206: Usually char which is in another charset and cannot be read because of it. |
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21:25.02 | shawnbon206 | oh ok |
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21:27.40 | le_tropico | what delay should be set in imagemick's "convert - delay" option if I've extracted frames from video with ffmpeg -r 29.97? I want to create gif with proper framerate |
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21:29.28 | nabblet | xand: i ran dpkg-reconfigure locales and generated the de_DE UTF8 locale, then i chose 'None' as default locale - i think that should fix it. how can i test? do i have to restart, re login? |
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21:30.49 | nabblet | xand: hm, i logged in with ctrl+alt+f2 to terminal. locales are set to POSIX there. |
21:31.13 | JyZyXEL | how can i get into the make menuconfig of linux-image-3? |
21:31.14 | xand | ?locale |
21:31.16 | xand | !locale |
21:31.17 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
21:31.21 | xand | !locales |
21:31.22 | dpkg | Use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates <locale> definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command, ask me about <localised errors>. See also <mac locales>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
21:31.24 | JyZyXEL | i wanna see the build options used for the kernel |
21:31.41 | JyZyXEL | are they available somwhere? |
21:32.29 | nabblet | <PROTECTED> |
21:32.29 | nabblet | #LANG="C" |
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21:38.30 | nabblet | xand: xand i already know http://wiki.debian.org/Locale but http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale helped me. I chose C.UTF-8 - now it seems to work :) |
21:38.33 | nabblet | xand: thank you |
21:38.49 | nabblet | relogin... |
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22:03.01 | v12qw | bah |
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23:14.35 | monod | Hello! |
23:14.44 | monod | How to change the menus' colors? |
23:14.45 | monod | I mean: |
23:15.06 | monod | The main menu (Alt+F1) has borderless white background with black text |
23:15.10 | monod | How do I change those? |
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23:18.20 | centrx | monod, Probably Gnome settings |
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23:38.39 | AndChat|624225 | Aaaand grub won't install |
23:38.50 | AndChat|624225 | Terrific! |
23:38.52 | AndChat|624225 | Lovely! |
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23:42.36 | Artemis3 | Yay! |
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23:43.14 | Artemis3 | AndChat|624225, what are you doing? |
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23:48.25 | AndChat|624225 | Artemis3: running live Debian on a USB stick, I'd like to install grub2 onto my hard disk from there |
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23:49.24 | Artemis3 | AndChat|624225, there is a moment in the installer, that asks if you want to download recent packages, answer yes. That will fix the grub issue |
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23:55.31 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: were you able to mount you drive ? |
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23:57.54 | AndChat|624225 | SameDay: yep. I fdisk'ed it and deleted the ffs partition, then ran mkfs.ext2 |
23:58.39 | SameDay | AndChat|624225: Good, so, installing grub2 should be pretty straight forward, plenty of manuals for that, haveing any issues with it ? |