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| 00:02.02 | monod | hello, can I resize my / and /home partitions on reboot? Like: I edited them now and let the actual editing take place on the next reboot (because I cannot unmount right now while using it) or the only way is to insert a live cd? Highlight my nickname when asnwering. |
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| 00:05.46 | dipi | monod: You should be able to resize /home without rebooting at least. |
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| 00:06.09 | monod | dipi, tell me moar |
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| 00:06.35 | monod | gparted tells me that /home is busy and cannot be unmounted in order to resize it |
| 00:06.39 | monod | dipi ^ |
| 00:07.20 | dipi | monod: Does /home have it's own partition? |
| 00:07.28 | monod | yep |
| 00:07.30 | monod | dipi |
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| 00:08.37 | dipi | monod: Are logged in as root? |
| 00:08.48 | monod | hmm, nope, why? |
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| 00:09.12 | dipi | monod: Maybe a normal user is blocking you from unmount /home |
| 00:09.21 | dipi | and resize it |
| 00:09.22 | monod | yes, myself |
| 00:09.49 | monod | lsof|grep /home yields a lot of files |
| 00:10.12 | monod | I think that's what is keeping gparted from unmounting /home, right dipi? |
| 00:10.24 | dipi | yes |
| 00:10.31 | monod | then I can't do anything |
| 00:10.33 | monod | oh maybe |
| 00:10.35 | monod | ... |
| 00:10.38 | monod | logging in as root? |
| 00:10.43 | dipi | yes :) |
| 00:10.49 | dipi | Then you run everything from / |
| 00:10.50 | monod | oh, so this is what you meant? |
| 00:10.57 | dipi | yes ^ |
| 00:11.04 | monod | oh, ok |
| 00:11.09 | monod | thank you |
| 00:11.15 | dipi | Im just guessing :) |
| 00:11.20 | monod | oh |
| 00:11.22 | monod | uhm |
| 00:11.27 | dipi | but it should work for /home |
| 00:11.34 | dipi | becouse now you use it. |
| 00:11.36 | monod | lulz, but anyway, yea, it should work in this case |
| 00:11.43 | monod | I now gotta go |
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| 00:11.49 | monod | (sleep D:) |
| 00:11.51 | dipi | good luck :) |
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| 00:11.55 | monod | thankya! |
| 00:11.58 | monod | cya! |
| 00:11.58 | dipi | np |
| 00:12.02 | monod | byebya! |
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| 00:18.42 | hanasaki | is there a way to make the cursor wrap to the next virutal screen in gnome? when it hits the edge of the screen |
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| 00:21.47 | lakcaj | hanasaki, try #gnome |
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| 00:23.50 | hanasaki | thanks |
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| 00:25.42 | awesomess3 | how does debian keep-up with source code changes when it alters source code with its own DIFFs? |
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| 00:28.32 | dondelelcaro | awesomess3: depends on the package |
| 00:28.56 | dondelelcaro | awesomess3: but nowadays most people either use quilt or some VCS to do that; but it's not a huge deal to re-apply diffs |
| 00:28.57 | rjsalts | awesomess3: the maintainers of the packages liase with upstream authors of packages they maintain, they will often try to remove patches and if the patch doesn't apply cleanly then they will need to do some development to fix it |
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| 00:42.50 | T60 | Would anyone know how to perform a Window's solution on Crunchbang? I have an issue with my T60 when it's on battery power and there is a solution here: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/diagnose-and-fix/detail.page?DocID=HT001728, but that's for Windows, would anyone know how to work around this? |
| 00:43.21 | SynrG | !crunchbang |
| 00:43.22 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
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| 00:43.48 | dondelelcaro | T60: if you were using Debian, we'd tell you to use powertop. |
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| 00:44.04 | dondelelcaro | T60: but ask #crunchbang, they should know |
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| 00:45.36 | T60 | Alright, thanks. |
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| 00:46.15 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 00:46.34 | johnfg | I've been using gnome classic with debian wheezy. |
| 00:46.55 | johnfg | However, I'd like to try mate, but it says it's only available in unofficial channels. |
| 00:47.07 | johnfg | So, where is mate for wheezy? |
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| 00:48.14 | SynrG | !mate |
| 00:48.14 | dpkg | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie". To install, ask me about <install mate>. http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
| 00:48.28 | SynrG | see channel #mate about that |
| 00:48.56 | SynrG | we can't recommend it, though, and don't support it here |
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| 00:49.12 | SynrG | try one of the supported DEs. XFCE, LXDE, KDE .... |
| 00:49.27 | SynrG | or wait for jessie |
| 00:49.59 | johnfg | SynrG: np, but thanks for the info! |
| 00:50.44 | johnfg | SynrG: I was always a gnome guy on debian, but on this somewhat older laptop, as far as gnome, I had to go with classic gnome. |
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| 00:50.54 | johnfg | On gentoo I use xfce. |
| 00:51.02 | johnfg | SynrG: Do you not like mate? |
| 00:51.59 | johnfg | !install mate |
| 00:51.59 | dpkg | To install <MATE> on Debian Jessie, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install mate-desktop». |
| 00:52.17 | johnfg | !install x |
| 00:52.17 | dpkg | To install X in Debian: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure your X server, ask me about <xorg config>. |
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| 00:56.04 | chomwitt | during a fresh installation and during the network detection i see a virtual console kernel: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, ..and then it crash |
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| 01:01.41 | SynrG | johnfg: it's not about what i personally like or dislike. it's about what we support and don't |
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| 01:03.02 | SynrG | chomwitt: I'm certain the message is unrelated to the crash |
| 01:03.13 | johnfg | again, ok and np. Thanks for the info. |
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| 01:27.18 | viccuad | wow, I have just found anarchism debian package |
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| 01:27.52 | dvs | is that like anacron? |
| 01:28.15 | viccuad | no, is a faq about anarchism |
| 01:28.19 | viccuad | sudo apt-get install anarchism |
| 01:28.33 | viccuad | 16MB of text |
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| 01:28.44 | viccuad | history of anarchism, etc etc |
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| 01:30.40 | fortress_ | hello, where are the keymaps located in Jessie? |
| 01:30.55 | fortress_ | and has it changed from Wheezy? |
| 01:31.17 | viccuad | and it seems its a good read, wikipedia and many published works cite it |
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| 01:36.54 | rysh | fortress_: http://pastebin.com/2jRqmCVX |
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| 01:37.39 | viccuad | rysh: what was the command you used to obtain that output? |
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| 01:38.33 | rysh | apt-file list console-data |
| 01:39.24 | viccuad | thx |
| 01:41.55 | fortress_ | rysh, the file i'm looking for is in /usr/share/keymaps on the list you pastebinned |
| 01:42.07 | fortress_ | however, on my Wheezy system, there is no /usr/share/keymaps |
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| 01:43.37 | rysh | fortress_: Find it hard to believe they would have changed to place to install these files |
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| 01:45.12 | rysh | You can do the same as I did ... install apt-file ... let it update there whereabouts of all the files from all packages... and "apt-file list console-data" on your system |
| 01:45.45 | fortress_ | okay, thank you |
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| 01:51.13 | fortress_ | rysh, the file i'm looking for is returned by the last command you sent |
| 01:51.26 | fortress_ | however, when i try to cd to its directory, i am informed the directory does not exist |
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| 01:51.46 | fortress_ | it appears i do have the keymap installed, i can select it in XFCE's keyboard options. |
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| 01:54.48 | rysh | fortress_: I checked if I had the directory /usr/share/keymaps ... |
| 01:54.52 | rysh | Seems also not |
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| 01:55.06 | rysh | Seemed I did not have console-data installed |
| 01:55.24 | rysh | so apt-get install console-data |
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| 02:16.00 | plexorr | anyone know what is the fastest type of link bonding, without requiring special switch ? I dont care about redundancy |
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| 02:25.37 | nevyn | plexorr: you can't do aggregation without switch side configuration |
| 02:25.55 | nevyn | s/configuration/configuration|support/g |
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| 02:26.55 | nevyn | so to do agregation you need to have agreement from the other end on how traffic will be spread over the transport links |
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| 02:27.58 | plexorr | dam, are those switches cheap ? |
| 02:29.01 | nevyn | what sorts of links are you trying to aaggregate? |
| 02:29.21 | plexorr | im just trying to get faster copy/read on my NAS SSD drive |
| 02:29.25 | nevyn | if they're 10gigE or infiniband or quadranet then they're not cheap by most definitions. |
| 02:29.31 | plexorr | im only getting like 50mb now |
| 02:29.49 | nevyn | what sort of switch do you have? |
| 02:30.10 | plexorr | a 24 port one, let me check the brand |
| 02:30.19 | nevyn | how fast? |
| 02:30.55 | plexorr | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166071 |
| 02:31.48 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: yeah, that almost certainly cannot to aggregation |
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| 02:35.02 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: you're looking for a switch which lists aggregation and/or trunking in its specificatoins |
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| 02:35.15 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: normally that means that it will be managed, because it usually has to be enabled on a per-port basis |
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| 02:36.22 | plexorr | dondelelcaro: it might be easier and cheaper to setup infiniband or 10GigE |
| 02:36.35 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: depends on what your requirements are |
| 02:36.46 | nevyn | LACP 802.1ad |
| 02:36.51 | nevyn | are the other words you want |
| 02:37.07 | plexorr | i basically need at least 100 mb read/write |
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| 02:37.20 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: but in general, things that do 10gigE are going to be significantly more expensive than a high quality gigabit managed switch |
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| 02:37.50 | nevyn | ugg... |
| 02:37.51 | nevyn | ax |
| 02:38.10 | nevyn | 802.1ax is link aggregation |
| 02:38.19 | nevyn | .1ad is the pvlan supercrazy. |
| 02:38.41 | nevyn | I took some vlans and put them in your vlans stuff |
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| 02:39.09 | dondelelcaro | you like vlans, don't you? |
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| 02:39.55 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: what exactly are you trying to do, though? |
| 02:40.17 | wonderworld | hi, i want to write the output of 'cat /dev/mem | strings' into a file but 'cat /dev/mem | strings > /tmp/mem' gives me 'cat: /dev/mem: operation not permitted' what am i doing wrong? |
| 02:40.39 | dondelelcaro | wonderworld: you can't cat /dev/mem unless you're root |
| 02:40.41 | D30 | sudo |
| 02:40.50 | wonderworld | i am trying as root |
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| 02:40.57 | dondelelcaro | and in general, you almost certainly don't want to cat it anyway |
| 02:41.07 | rjsalts | nevyn: doesn't 802.1ad get crowded? |
| 02:41.22 | ryan42 | I'm trying to write a quick and first bash script and this is about to make me nuts |
| 02:41.24 | wonderworld | what would a better way to accomplish this? |
| 02:41.32 | dondelelcaro | wonderworld: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:41.42 | LinuxGuy2020 | Hello I have a new video capture device. When I type "lsusb" it shows "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1b80:e001 Afatech". This is the video device. TigerDirect says its Linux compatible 2.6.14. I installed kdenlive and it doesnt show up as a capture device from what I can see. Is there any info on this device? Specifically its a StarTech USB2HDCAP hdmi/component capture device. |
| 02:41.50 | wonderworld | cat /dev/mem | strings works. |
| 02:41.54 | dondelelcaro | wonderworld: if you're running on physical hardware with Debian, you can just cat /dev/mem. |
| 02:42.00 | wonderworld | i get my expected output on standard out |
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| 02:42.14 | wonderworld | i just want to write this to a file but strangely get this error message |
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| 02:42.23 | ryan42 | i have a place where i do mv -v "$SRCPATH" "$PIXPATH". when I run teh script I get mv: rename /Volumes/NIKOND300S/DCIM/*/* to /Users/ryan42/Pictures/Ryan/Photos/*: No such file or directory. ||| If I replace "mv -v" with "echo" in teh script and take the output and copy/paste it after mv -v and run it interactively it works fine. |
| 02:42.30 | dondelelcaro | wonderworld: oh. You probably want to write to ~/mem or something like that |
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| 02:43.11 | wonderworld | dondelelcaro: hey that worked, thanks, but why couldn't i write to /tmp ? |
| 02:43.23 | dondelelcaro | wonderworld: just guessing, but you may have /tmp mounted as a tmpfs |
| 02:44.00 | wonderworld | hmm, no |
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| 02:44.35 | rjsalts | ryan42: I don't think you want all those glob expressions in there |
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| 02:44.54 | ryan42 | rjsalts: i don't know what that means. but you're probably right. |
| 02:44.58 | dondelelcaro | ryan42: mv -v "foo/*" "bar/*" will result in the glob not being expanded |
| 02:45.05 | dondelelcaro | ryan42: which is what you're seeing |
| 02:45.08 | wonderworld | strange. i can't remember having ever permisson problems when writing to /tmp. shouldn't it allow any write from anyone as default? |
| 02:45.19 | rjsalts | ryan42: glob is the * |
| 02:45.26 | ryan42 | mv is printing the glob in the destination |
| 02:45.54 | nevyn | rjsalts: when you think you get vlans... checkout isolated private vlans |
| 02:46.04 | rjsalts | ryan42: and other things like character classess in [] |
| 02:46.06 | ryan42 | my actual string that's being gnerated is /Volumes/NIKOND300S/DCIM/*/* /Users/ryan42/Pictures/Ryan/Photos/ |
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| 02:47.09 | rjsalts | nevyn: do they usually use jumbo frames in metro wans? |
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| 02:47.49 | nevyn | they should but probably don't |
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| 02:48.16 | nevyn | rjsalts: .1ax is for service providers to have vlans for customers with vlans |
| 02:49.00 | plexorr | dondelelcaro: late response, but i just need fast lan, i have SSD's capable of 500mb/s and im only getting about 60mb/s max |
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| 02:49.38 | plexorr | movies and stuff |
| 02:49.46 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: right, but what are you doing with the data? |
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| 02:50.05 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: because you may be able to aggregate at a higher layer, for example |
| 02:50.29 | plexorr | dondelelcaro: copying it from pc to pc, streaming, running VM's from a shared location across all computers, just regular home stuff |
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| 02:51.27 | ZeroBeholder | plexorr: I assume you aren't doing this wirelessly which would be slow.Are you hardwired to take advantage of reasonably priced gigabit hardware? |
| 02:51.49 | plexorr | yes, im hardwired, gigabit everywhere |
| 02:52.26 | ZeroBeholder | Good gigabit hardware or Dlink? |
| 02:52.29 | dondelelcaro | plexorr: you can probably achieve it with balance-alb which does this at layer2 iirc |
| 02:52.56 | plexorr | dondelelcaro: i will try that |
| 02:53.12 | plexorr | ZeroBeholder: not the best by far, but not dlink either http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166071 |
| 02:53.46 | ZeroBeholder | Fair enough, there is a lot of gigabit stuff out there that will only do gigabit speeds in a lab. |
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| 02:55.10 | ZeroBeholder | It's that theoretical yield versus actual yield crap from school rearing it's ugly head in the real world. Also are you getting your speed in mega bytes or mega bits? |
| 02:57.45 | nevyn | plexorr: 50Mb/s is 500Mbits/s which isn't too bad. |
| 02:58.15 | dondelelcaro | s/500/400/, but yes... |
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| 02:58.39 | SmileDE | Hallo Debian people! |
| 02:58.55 | SirLagz | SmileDE: hai |
| 02:59.39 | SmileDE | Hi SirLagz |
| 03:00.11 | SmileDE | I know you are all debian experts, and that is something really small to you, I am not getting smart with this apt-get update issue.... |
| 03:00.35 | SmileDE | I always receive on the screen "Hash-Sum Mismatch" |
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| 03:00.40 | SmileDE | one moment, I get the mail. |
| 03:03.16 | SmileDE | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=02Ws1ZVZ |
| 03:03.23 | SmileDE | do you guys have any ideas ?! |
| 03:05.37 | dondelelcaro | SmileDE: that usually means that the mirror is out of date |
| 03:05.40 | melt7777 | smile choose a local repo |
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| 03:06.32 | dondelelcaro | SmileDE: in general, that problem will fix itself if you just try to run apt-get update; again in a bit |
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| 03:08.37 | SmileDE | okay, I almost have solved it. |
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| 03:09.11 | SmileDE | i know there are 2 ways to add repositories, one through the sources.list, and the other I don't know again. |
| 03:09.43 | dondelelcaro | SmileDE: that's the only way to add them; they're in sources.list or sources.list.d |
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| 03:12.11 | ctmjr | LinuxGuy2020: what source are you using as the video input and have you tried it in vlc |
| 03:12.58 | SmileDE | long time there was something with cherokee from launchpad, now debian is arguing that the url doesn't exist as well the entry doesn't exist in sources.list |
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| 03:35.11 | SmileDE | thanks people! |
| 03:35.19 | SmileDE | It all works again, as expected! |
| 03:35.23 | SmileDE | i wish you a nice day. |
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| 03:41.51 | civillian | If I overwrite a user's password with the same password, it changes the hash in /etc/shadow |
| 03:41.57 | civillian | Why is that? |
| 03:42.20 | civillian | in jessie |
| 03:43.19 | toastyde1th | civillian, check the salt in /etc/shadow |
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| 03:43.56 | toastyde1th | actually i forget if the salt is in passwd or shadow |
| 03:44.02 | civillian | toastyde1th: 8 characters? |
| 03:44.12 | toastyde1th | if the system changes the salt, the hash will change even given the same password |
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| 03:44.29 | civillian | I see |
| 03:44.31 | toastyde1th | and iirc the salt changes every time you run passwd |
| 03:44.36 | civillian | seems it's changing the salt too |
| 03:44.57 | civillian | hmm so randomly generated salt plus pw = new hash |
| 03:45.06 | toastyde1th | well, yeah, that's what the salt is for |
| 03:45.26 | civillian | It used to stay the same, and apply to all users |
| 03:45.33 | civillian | and be 2 character |
| 03:45.43 | civillian | now it's 8 and changes |
| 03:45.50 | toastyde1th | the new way is much better |
| 03:46.25 | civillian | thx toastyde1th |
| 03:46.29 | toastyde1th | np |
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| 03:50.14 | Neytiri | hi i am having a issue with one of my servers, and i need to know how to find the cd rom drive to mount it |
| 03:50.21 | Neytiri | or where can i get 7.2 |
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| 03:58.22 | ToTheInternet | Hi, i want to switch from stable to testing. i changed stuff in sources.list.d and now when i do apt-get update, it loads all the package headers from testing. however, apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade both say that i'm already up to date |
| 03:59.17 | civillian | ToTheInternet: pastebin 'apt-cache policy dpkg' |
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| 04:01.40 | spinningcompass | There’s a non-Debian kernel whose support for a given architecture is slightly more comprehensive than the Debian kernel. Is there a technical reason, or a reason related to elegance or some kind of symmetry, for me not to create a ‘dpkg’ of the kernel and install it locally? |
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| 04:02.25 | Genitrust | "make: command not found" on debian 7.4 |
| 04:02.29 | Genitrust | how do i get "make"? -.- |
| 04:02.37 | civillian | Genitrust: apt-get install make |
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| 04:02.54 | Genitrust | damn it i should've guessed....lol |
| 04:02.57 | Genitrust | thanks civillian :) |
| 04:03.11 | civillian | Genitrust: beats me why make isn't part of build-essential |
| 04:03.31 | ToTheInternet | civillian: http://paste2.org/FVDWYOI9 sorry it took so long.. not easy to find a pastebin that doesn't require JS from google servers enabled |
| 04:04.18 | Genitrust | "kernel headers are incomplete/not installed" -.- |
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| 04:04.42 | Genitrust | i'm guessing it's "kernel-package" i need, so screw it ima just install that :D |
| 04:04.56 | Rusty1 | Genitrust: apt-get install build-essential |
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| 04:05.46 | Genitrust | Rusty1, build-essential has the kernel headers? |
| 04:06.10 | Rusty1 | Genitrust: try it and see |
| 04:07.32 | Genitrust | looks like it may... |
| 04:07.44 | Genitrust | i'm just trying to figure out how to get b43-fwcutter for debian 7.4 -.- |
| 04:07.46 | Genitrust | holy gawd |
| 04:08.03 | civillian | ToTheInternet: seems your testing priority is 1 |
| 04:08.11 | ToTheInternet | civillian: yes |
| 04:08.21 | civillian | ToTheInternet: which is your issue... |
| 04:08.29 | ToTheInternet | civillian: what do i want it to be? |
| 04:09.10 | civillian | ToTheInternet: I believe removing the pinning will get your testing repos to be preferred |
| 04:09.19 | Genitrust | any ideas how i can install firmware-b43-installer ? or how i can find this package to install it? |
| 04:09.31 | Genitrust | apparently this is what i need to get the wifi working for this laptop on debian 7.4 :D |
| 04:09.37 | ToTheInternet | civillian: removing the pinning? not sure what that means |
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| 04:09.55 | Rusty1 | Genitrust: what does apt-get install firmware-b43-installer say? |
| 04:09.55 | civillian | ToTheInternet: do you have any files under /etc/apt/preferences.d? |
| 04:10.22 | Genitrust | Rusty1, it was saying that it's not found |
| 04:10.25 | Genitrust | but i figured it out :D w00t |
| 04:10.34 | Genitrust | ...well, i think i did. i added the non-free repository hehe |
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| 04:10.57 | ToTheInternet | civillian: yes. testing.pref, that's where the priority of 1 is set. then security.pref and stable.pref.bak |
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| 04:12.34 | ToTheInternet | civillian: stable.pref.bak has a priority of 995 fwiw |
| 04:12.55 | ToTheInternet | civillian: and security.pref has a priority of 1000 |
| 04:12.57 | civillian | ToTheInternet: any reason you have those setup like that? |
| 04:13.53 | ToTheInternet | civillian: some time ago i wanted to install packages some packages from testing but keep the system in stable overall. i followed some tutorial i believe |
| 04:14.23 | civillian | ToTheInternet: so your system is doing exactly what you told it to do, 'keep the system stable overall' |
| 04:14.48 | ToTheInternet | civillian: now i don't want that anymore. i want to switch to testing alltogether |
| 04:15.13 | civillian | ToTheInternet: I recommend moving all those 3 files somewhere else like /root and re-run apt-get update |
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| 04:15.24 | civillian | ToTheInternet: then re-run 'apt-cache policy dpkg' |
| 04:16.35 | civillian | ToTheInternet: also you might need to observe a particular upgrade proceedure to avoid trashing your box, might involve updating dpkg first before apt-get upgrade |
| 04:16.37 | ToTheInternet | civillian: ok. output changed and apt-get upgrade now wants to upgrade 500 packages. |
| 04:16.57 | civillian | ToTheInternet: google some wheezy -> jessie pages |
| 04:17.03 | civillian | before you hit yes |
| 04:18.06 | ToTheInternet | civillian: according to http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie no dpkg magic is required |
| 04:18.56 | civillian | ToTheInternet: good luck :) do you have backups if you trash everything? |
| 04:19.10 | ToTheInternet | civillian: no. and i can't afford to trash everything either |
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| 04:19.25 | civillian | ToTheInternet: is this a server? |
| 04:19.50 | ToTheInternet | civillian: no, but i need this machine to do work |
| 04:20.22 | ToTheInternet | civillian: is it common that this fails? i thought it was no problem at all to upgrade to testing |
| 04:20.47 | civillian | ToTheInternet: usually fine, although I' |
| 04:20.55 | civillian | I've seen some disasters with previousl releases |
| 04:21.04 | ToTheInternet | civillian: ok. going for it now |
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| 04:25.32 | Neytiri | i am having a issue with debain not resolving domains |
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| 04:25.43 | Neytiri | the nameservers are set in resolv.conf |
| 04:25.49 | Neytiri | and netwroking works |
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| 04:42.10 | Neytiri | can someone help me please, i am running debain 7.4 and i have no dns resolution, but the resolv.conf file is setup properly |
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| 04:43.11 | civillian | Neytiri: can you give an example? |
| 04:43.32 | Neytiri | root@voltz:~# ping google.com |
| 04:43.32 | Neytiri | ping: unknown host google.com |
| 04:43.53 | Neytiri | root@voltz:~# more /etc/resolve.conf |
| 04:43.54 | Neytiri | nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
| 04:43.54 | Neytiri | nameserver 8.8.4.4 |
| 04:44.18 | Neytiri | root@voltz:~# ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 04:44.18 | Neytiri | PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 04:44.18 | Neytiri | 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl= |
| 04:44.29 | civillian | should be resolv.conf, not resolve.conf |
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| 04:46.10 | Neytiri | thanks |
| 04:46.15 | Neytiri | now i feel really stupid |
| 04:46.16 | civillian | nps |
| 04:46.53 | relaxed | I guess they couldn't choose between resolver or resolve, so the dropped the e |
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| 05:06.47 | Genitrust | damn, how on earth do you apt-get install bitcoin-qt on debian? -.- |
| 05:09.55 | Genitrust | seriously? no one knows how? |
| 05:10.58 | cast | Genitrust: could do a simple sid backport |
| 05:10.59 | wols | it's not in the debian repos, so we don't care |
| 05:11.01 | themill | !patience |
| 05:11.01 | dpkg | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. |
| 05:11.08 | wols | ,v bitcoin-qt |
| 05:11.09 | judd | Package: bitcoin-qt on i386 -- sid: 0.9.0-1 |
| 05:11.17 | wols | !tell Genitrust about ssb |
| 05:11.22 | themill | (it's not in stable releases for a specific reason) |
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| 05:11.46 | Genitrust | nevermind, i figured it out |
| 05:12.02 | Genitrust | basically, i needed to learn how to add "unstable main" to my sources |
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| 05:12.38 | Genitrust | thanks for those who had me pinged by dpkg |
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| 05:12.48 | cast | uh...don't do that |
| 05:12.51 | andry | apt-cache policy mono < can someone check this version for jessie/testing? |
| 05:13.03 | andry | i am on ubuntu at this moment for testing some stuff |
| 05:13.04 | Genitrust | (cast, you talkin to me?) |
| 05:13.25 | pl | keep in mind that in that way you'll be following unstable |
| 05:13.34 | andry | or mono-complete |
| 05:13.39 | cast | Genitrust: was the unstable main for a deb-src line or a deb line? |
| 05:13.50 | wols | andry: /msg judd v mono |
| 05:14.00 | themill | andry: /msg judd versions $package; or check packages.debian.org |
| 05:14.17 | andry | nice :) thank you guys |
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| 05:19.03 | mazzanet | hmmm |
| 05:19.19 | mazzanet | latest update in testing of openldap seems broken |
| 05:20.25 | andry | which distro? |
| 05:20.27 | andry | branch |
| 05:20.46 | mazzanet | debian |
| 05:20.50 | mazzanet | testing |
| 05:20.50 | andry | stable? |
| 05:20.51 | andry | ah |
| 05:21.12 | andry | hm, did you fill a bug report? |
| 05:21.33 | mazzanet | about to, investigating a little further first |
| 05:21.40 | andry | :) whats the error? |
| 05:21.47 | mazzanet | it moved my database to /var/backups/ |
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| 05:22.08 | mazzanet | and then didn't put anything back... |
| 05:22.56 | mazzanet | http://pastebin.com/XUVLNgf6 |
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| 06:21.31 | spinningcompass | Is there a technical reason to create a dpkg of a custom kernel & install it, instead of installing from source (tarball)? |
| 06:22.21 | internat | because package management is useful :) |
| 06:22.45 | spinningcompass | laughs |
| 06:22.47 | spinningcompass | Point taken. |
| 06:22.57 | internat | if i understand correctly, it allows the package management system to know what kernel your running, to help with depencency resolution and the likes |
| 06:23.20 | internat | eg install firmware-awesomepackage, etc etc etc |
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| 06:28.20 | Genitrust | ok at this point... i'm starting to think that debian's support sucks.... |
| 06:28.24 | Genitrust | or at least software setup :D |
| 06:28.29 | Genitrust | but alas, i can understand |
| 06:28.40 | cast | sucks relative to what? |
| 06:29.15 | Genitrust | i went to import my private key via gpg, and i get the error, "key contains preferences for unavailable algorithms " ... wtf? |
| 06:29.33 | Genitrust | "really update the preferences???? (y/N)" ... i'm scared basically lol |
| 06:30.20 | cast | interesting. can i see your public key? |
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| 06:32.57 | Genitrust | cast there's nothing special about my public key... you can import it from key server: CD14CD15 |
| 06:33.08 | Genitrust | i know i know, my last 8 characters are awesome ;D |
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| 06:37.01 | cast | ah, which key server? |
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| 06:37.20 | jelly-home | presumably any public one |
| 06:37.38 | jelly-home | pgp.mit.edu is short to type |
| 06:38.35 | afidegnum | hi, pls I have a file named .MYCONFIG in each from parent folder to child folders. how do I remove that type of file only and keep the rest of the files intact? |
| 06:39.16 | jelly-home | afidegnum: that type of type, or that exact name? |
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| 06:40.01 | afidegnum | in fact i have created a file named .MYCONFIG which generated html files |
| 06:40.07 | jelly-home | afidegnum: first verify that "find /path/to/parent -name '.MYCONFIG' -ls" finds _exactly_ the files you want to wipe, no more, no less |
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| 06:40.16 | afidegnum | ok |
| 06:40.49 | jelly-home | if you're very sure nothing important is listed, replace -ls with -delete |
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| 06:42.56 | afidegnum | jelly-home: so I should repeat the command with -delete at the end? |
| 06:43.55 | jelly-home | afidegnum: if you're very sure everything listed is junk you want to get rid of, yes |
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| 06:44.23 | jelly-home | afidegnum: again, -delete instead of -ls |
| 06:44.30 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 06:45.03 | jelly-home | find is a powerful tool but its syntax is weird to say the least |
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| 06:45.05 | jelly-home | !using find |
| 06:45.05 | dpkg | from memory, using find is http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind or "man find" |
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| 06:47.11 | cast | jelly-home: ahh, i see what happened. seems some of the servers subkeys.pgp.net round robins to are down |
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| 08:13.15 | Genitrust | hmm, how can i properly shut down the X server, so that i may install a graphics driver? |
| 08:13.20 | Genitrust | each time i kill it... it comes back up |
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| 08:14.01 | BenNZ | Genitrust: ctrl alt f1 , then sudo service gdm3 stop (if using gdm3) |
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| 08:15.41 | Genitrust | thanks BenNZ |
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| 08:15.47 | Genitrust | my screen looks retarded in text mode... it makes me sad |
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| 08:15.55 | Genitrust | it's like... a double split of the screen or something -.- |
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| 08:16.01 | osfd | yesterday evening I locked my session with a bunch of software running. I come back this morning, every soft was closed |
| 08:16.12 | osfd | how can I know what happened ? |
| 08:16.22 | osfd | investigate |
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| 08:16.40 | Genitrust | first thing i would do as root is "last" |
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| 08:20.17 | Genitrust | man this sucks. i install the nvidia driver... and now my graphics mode is still 1024x768 , but no 3d -.- lol |
| 08:20.23 | osfd | Genitrust: last |
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| 08:21.42 | osfd | I'm the only one logged, obviously |
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| 08:22.38 | Genitrust | like i said, that's the first thing i would've done :) |
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| 08:23.27 | osfd | ok... |
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| 08:34.51 | Genitrust | hmm, is there any way to revert to my back display settings / driver ? |
| 08:35.00 | Genitrust | i just installed an nvidia driver... and i definitely want to go back to the default -.- |
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| 08:36.14 | petern_ | Yes, just uninstall what you installed. |
| 08:36.44 | Genitrust | i dont know how to do that =\ |
| 08:36.58 | Genitrust | i ran nvidia's script... but good idea.. maybe it has an uninstall option... |
| 08:37.00 | andry | did you install the .run package? |
| 08:37.10 | Genitrust | yes |
| 08:37.11 | andry | there is an uninstall routine for this file, sec |
| 08:37.12 | petern_ | oh dear |
| 08:37.32 | andry | oh. --uninstall :D |
| 08:38.03 | andry | ./NVIDIA*.run --uninstall .. but first stop the login manager etc |
| 08:38.20 | Genitrust | lol :D |
| 08:38.29 | Genitrust | well, now i'm trying to figure out if there's a "control panel" for this... |
| 08:38.33 | Genitrust | so i can enable 3d, change the resolution... etc |
| 08:38.48 | andry | nvidia-xsettings .. but are you sure it installed correctly? |
| 08:39.01 | petern_ | uninstall it anyway |
| 08:39.09 | petern_ | and install it properly using the debian package |
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| 08:39.30 | andry | the nvidia files install fine .. and update fine with dkms .. well, they do for me |
| 08:39.58 | Genitrust | ya but do you have a crappy hp pavilion dv2000? :D |
| 08:40.07 | SynrG | be that as it may, it's not supported here |
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| 08:40.16 | SynrG | Genitrust: lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
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| 08:40.34 | SynrG | so we can identify your card |
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| 08:40.54 | Genitrust | NVIDIA Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M) |
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| 08:40.58 | Genitrust | rev a2 |
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| 08:41.10 | petern_ | Only one? |
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| 08:41.44 | Genitrust | yup, only one |
| 08:41.49 | andry | ah, and did you run nvidia-xconfig to enable the driver for x? |
| 08:41.57 | petern_ | Ah, 2006, before the dual-videocard malarky that they do now. |
| 08:42.03 | Genitrust | 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ___description here___ [10de:0531] (rev a2) |
| 08:42.15 | SynrG | ,pciid [10de:0531] |
| 08:42.16 | Genitrust | i did not run nvidia-xconfig |
| 08:42.17 | judd | [10de:0531] is 'C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:0531 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 08:42.29 | andry | petern_, i saw such a setup lately, i didnt really understand why they do this |
| 08:42.37 | petern_ | andry, battery life. |
| 08:42.40 | andry | hm |
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| 08:42.47 | Genitrust | andry, i cannot find the file for nvidia-xconfig ? :( |
| 08:42.47 | petern_ | the 2nd 'card' is really part of the main cpu. |
| 08:43.02 | andry | ah okay |
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| 08:43.23 | andry | "sudo nvidia-xconfig" should work if the driver installed correctly, are you sure it did not exit with an error? :P |
| 08:43.37 | andry | and you installed the whole build-essential stuff |
| 08:43.49 | Genitrust | judd what do you mean by that post? |
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| 08:44.18 | andry | judd is a bot, triggered by SynrG |
| 08:44.20 | jelly-home | andry, Genitrust: you'll have a lot less pain if you install nvidia's blob using packages from non-free sources |
| 08:44.37 | jelly-home | !nvidia dkms |
| 08:44.38 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
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| 08:44.47 | Genitrust | jelly-home, i have the non-free sources ... |
| 08:44.54 | andry | yes, thats true, i installed them twice for testing |
| 08:45.01 | babilen | Genitrust: You really don't need nor would we advice going down that route and also to use nvidia-xconfig -- See https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for details |
| 08:45.10 | Genitrust | so should i uninstall these drivers, and then do the drivers from the non-free sources? |
| 08:45.15 | andry | yes |
| 08:45.15 | jelly-home | Genitrust: yes |
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| 08:46.24 | babilen | Genitrust: You probably want to install the driver from wheezy-backports which is done by adding those to your /etc/apt/sources.list (e.g. http://paste.debian.net/90141)· running "apt-get update" and then "aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,')" following by "aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
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| 08:47.16 | Genitrust | wtf ... NVIDIA-Linu...run --uninstall told me (at the end) that no nvidia driver was installed -.- |
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| 08:47.47 | andry | sounds like the installation failed |
| 08:47.55 | Genitrust | ya and that makes sense |
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| 08:48.20 | andry | but maybe it disabled nouveau |
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| 08:48.33 | andry | so you now have a crappy resolution etc with vesa fallback |
| 08:48.37 | Genitrust | ya i think it did.. i love gdm3 ;( |
| 08:48.48 | babilen | That really has nothing to do with gdm3 |
| 08:49.11 | Genitrust | what does that error mean for apt when it suggests "run with apt-get update or --try-missing" ... does it mean to do "apt-get update --try-missing" ? |
| 08:49.13 | Genitrust | err, fix-missing |
| 08:49.22 | petern_ | speculation. check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what's happening. |
| 08:49.35 | babilen | Genitrust: Either way, please follow our instructions and check that the module compiles correctly. Also remove any /etc/X11/xorg.conf you might have generated and configure your system as indicated on the wiki |
| 08:49.54 | Genitrust | babilen, thanks, i'm looking at that wiki |
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| 08:50.00 | Genitrust | petern_, i'll jump to it man :D |
| 08:50.11 | babilen | Genitrust: Please also pay attention to the additional information and commands I provided earlier. |
| 08:50.15 | voxadam | I have a self-compiled application in /opt/ but when I try to run it it complains that /var/run/ is not wriatable. I assume I shouldn't simply make /run writable so what should I do instead? |
| 08:50.56 | andry | voxadam, which file does it want to create there? i suggest you just create that file/dir and then chown it |
| 08:51.05 | voxadam | Thanks. |
| 08:51.40 | Genitrust | what is a likely problem for "failed to fetch ftp://ftp...nvidia-graphics-drivers...deb Read error - read (connection reset by peer) |
| 08:51.43 | Genitrust | ? |
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| 08:52.26 | SynrG | your net flaked out? wifi? |
| 08:52.35 | Genitrust | i'm RJ45 |
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| 08:52.54 | andry | try to run apt-get update first |
| 08:53.00 | SynrG | yup |
| 08:53.48 | Genitrust | ok i had to do apt-get autoremove too |
| 08:54.00 | babilen | Genitrust: You are obviously not using the sources.list i've pasted nor did you run "apt-get update" -- Could you please ensure that you have, at least, wheezy-backports in there ? :) |
| 08:54.08 | Genitrust | now it worked :) |
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| 08:54.21 | Genitrust | babilen, i obviously already had it :P ... except backports haha |
| 08:54.23 | babilen | Genitrust: Are you installing the version from backports or the one from wheezy? |
| 08:54.36 | Genitrust | oh crap you're right |
| 08:54.41 | Genitrust | one sec |
| 08:54.56 | babilen | *do not interrupt the installation* |
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| 08:55.06 | babilen | (any installation) |
| 08:55.10 | Genitrust | ok so i'm not doing the back-ports |
| 08:55.30 | Genitrust | what source is that? just "back-ports" ? |
| 08:55.37 | babilen | Well, okay ... should work too, but I am quite convinced that you want the backports version. |
| 08:55.46 | Genitrust | ie: deb http://ftp.us..../debian/ back-ports ? |
| 08:55.59 | babilen | Genitrust: Please read again what I wrote earlier. I gave you exact commands, a sources.list and everything you needed. |
| 08:56.09 | babilen | And no, that is not it. |
| 08:57.19 | Genitrust | ok i'm on it... |
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| 09:00.06 | Chetic | How do I prevent strace from shortening execve arguments to "[/* x vars */]"? The -s argument doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 09:00.27 | Genitrust | babilen, ok installing the dkms |
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| 09:01.25 | Genitrust | hehe |
| 09:01.32 | Genitrust | "conflicting nouveau kernel module loaded" |
| 09:01.41 | Genitrust | best way to fix it is to reboot after installation finished. sounds easy enough :) |
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| 09:02.36 | babilen | Genitrust: Did you take care of the configuration? Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 09:03.04 | Genitrust | no i'm still waiting for installation to finish |
| 09:03.08 | Genitrust | ok well, it finished... |
| 09:03.10 | Genitrust | lol |
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| 09:04.24 | Genitrust | ok sooo... i'm guessing i now restart, then do the nvidia-xconfig ? |
| 09:04.30 | babilen | No |
| 09:04.32 | Genitrust | <--- searching for answers on this on the page |
| 09:04.37 | Genitrust | oh -.- |
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| 09:05.15 | Genitrust | "he configuration file above can be created using these commands: " ... is that what i need to do? followed by restart system to enable the nouveau driver blacklist? |
| 09:05.22 | babilen | Genitrust: I told you already *not* to use nvidia-xconfig -- Just create the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf as detailed on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration and that is it |
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| 09:07.02 | Genitrust | ok i did that ocmmand to basically make the 20-nvidia.conf |
| 09:07.06 | Genitrust | then restart ... right? |
| 09:07.17 | babilen | yes |
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| 09:08.46 | Genitrust | cool, i have entirely no X server started now :D |
| 09:08.53 | Genitrust | i guess this is where 'troubleshooting' comes in.... |
| 09:09.39 | babilen | So, you rebooted and it doesn't work? Could you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net please? |
| 09:09.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell Genitrust -about nopaste |
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| 09:10.14 | Genitrust | ah i see... |
| 09:10.27 | Genitrust | ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_current': No such device. Fatal server error, no screens found |
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| 09:13.13 | Genitrust | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1b3cb888/ |
| 09:13.39 | Genitrust | babilen, thank you, at least my text screen is legible now. before it was all jumbled. |
| 09:13.45 | SynrG | so, then, it appears you missed a step |
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| 09:14.04 | Genitrust | well, i really dont think i missed a step. i followed all steps babilen said |
| 09:14.12 | Genitrust | and i did not use nvidia-xconfig |
| 09:14.23 | Genitrust | he said.... You probably want to install the driver from wheezy-backports which is done by adding those to your /etc/apt/sources.list (e.g. http://paste.debian.net/90141)· running "apt-get update" and then "aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,')" following by "aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
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| 09:14.46 | Genitrust | i added the source, did the apt-get update, did the linux headers thing, then the backports install of kernel dkms |
| 09:14.56 | babilen | Did the module compile successfully when you installed nvidia-driver-dkms ? What does "dkms status" give you? |
| 09:15.10 | Genitrust | then, from the wiki he linked to me, i did the command to make the config , then restarted |
| 09:15.15 | Genitrust | babilen, let me check dkms status |
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| 09:15.52 | Genitrust | dkms.conf: Error! No 'BUILT_MODULE_NAME' directive specified for record #0. Error! Bad conf file. File: |
| 09:15.52 | babilen | I also love how /var/log/Xorg.0.log references itself on line 118 :) |
| 09:16.01 | Genitrust | File has a blank space, then "does not represent a valid dkms.conf file" |
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| 09:16.35 | andry | loop detected :D |
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| 09:17.05 | SynrG | Genitrust: so, maybe the .run installer left garage |
| 09:17.08 | SynrG | garbage* |
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| 09:17.51 | babilen | Genitrust: Is that the entire output? |
| 09:17.59 | Genitrust | babilen, yes |
| 09:18.04 | tvlooy | hi. I'm trying to set the max open files limit on my system. But it doesn't work |
| 09:18.04 | tvlooy | I'm on Debian 7.4 and added * soft nofile 64000 (same or hard) in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 09:18.07 | tvlooy | After reboot and login ulimit still shows 1024 |
| 09:18.09 | SynrG | so it doesn't indicate *which* file the error is in? |
| 09:18.11 | tvlooy | any pointers? |
| 09:18.43 | Genitrust | apparently there is no dkms config file |
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| 09:19.22 | babilen | highly irregular |
| 09:19.32 | SynrG | tvlooy: i think that's to restrict usage on a per-user basis, not make system-wide increases |
| 09:20.10 | andry | yes, SynrG .. /proc/sys/fs/file-max may override the user level settings, but im not sure |
| 09:20.53 | Genitrust | well, the X log clearly states that it failed to load the nvidia kernel module |
| 09:20.54 | babilen | Genitrust: Could you paste your /usr/src/nvidia-current-319.82/dkms.conf please? |
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| 09:21.40 | voxadam | Where do most people mount network filesystems that are mounted at boot with fstab? |
| 09:21.46 | SynrG | tvlooy: still, 1024 and 64000 are smallish values, both, compared to what your system limit would be, so ... dunno |
| 09:22.03 | Genitrust | babilen, comin! |
| 09:22.08 | SynrG | tvlooy: do you have an explicit call to 'ulimit' in any of the configs that get loaded at login? |
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| 09:22.38 | babilen | Genitrust: How many kernels do you have installed? (i.e. "aptitude search '~i~n^linux-image'" ) |
| 09:22.39 | Genitrust | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/560c25a1/ |
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| 09:23.10 | Genitrust | babilen, i just installed this machine fresh -.- |
| 09:23.22 | SynrG | tvlooy: ulimit -n, i mean |
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| 09:24.12 | SynrG | tvlooy: also, might as well check /proc/sys/fs/file-max though i doubt if it is set *that* low :/ |
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| 09:24.19 | babilen | Genitrust: Okay, that file contains "BUILT_MODULE_NAME[0]="nvidia"" so can't be the culprit .. Does "ls -l /usr/src/*/dkms.conf" list any other files? |
| 09:24.25 | SynrG | tvlooy: i don't think that would show in your ulimit output anyway |
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| 09:24.51 | Genitrust | babilen, yes it does.... |
| 09:25.00 | Genitrust | /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.57/dkms.conf |
| 09:25.11 | Genitrust | ...i tried installing that a while ago ... i think for the wifi problem? (wifi working now) |
| 09:25.15 | andry | man. compiling mono 2.11 is a pain on ubuntu trusty :| drives me crazy |
| 09:25.22 | babilen | Genitrust: What did you use ndiswrapper for and could you paste that file please? |
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| 09:25.38 | Genitrust | i used it to try to get wifi working. i def dont need that... can i just uninstall it? |
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| 09:25.55 | SynrG | ndiswrapper! guuuh |
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| 09:26.05 | SynrG | yes. it's a world of hurt |
| 09:26.09 | tvlooy | SynrG: I also tried with root ... instead of * ... |
| 09:26.12 | babilen | Genitrust: Sure, please run "apt-get --purge autoremove ndiswrapper-dkms" |
| 09:26.15 | Genitrust | how do i murder nswrapper? @.@ |
| 09:26.27 | SynrG | what babilen said |
| 09:26.34 | Genitrust | hehe |
| 09:26.40 | Genitrust | ok i'm removing da SHEIT out of it right now... |
| 09:26.42 | tvlooy | SynrG: no explicit calls to ulimit |
| 09:27.03 | Genitrust | status: before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel. |
| 09:27.04 | Genitrust | whoops ;x |
| 09:27.07 | Genitrust | ok maybe things good |
| 09:27.09 | Genitrust | ima restart now :D |
| 09:27.13 | babilen | Genitrust: Hang on |
| 09:27.17 | tvlooy | SynrG: fs.file-max = 1025255 |
| 09:27.18 | Genitrust | :: hanging :: |
| 09:27.21 | babilen | Genitrust: What does "dkms status" give you now? |
| 09:27.38 | SynrG | tvlooy: i'm out of ideas. is this a normal debian wheezy install? or maybe an image provided by a VPS? |
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| 09:28.25 | Genitrust | babilen, it tells me that nvidia-current , versions...i686: installed |
| 09:28.27 | tvlooy | It's should be a pretty vanilla debian install on a VMware cloud |
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| 09:28.56 | babilen | Genitrust: Splendid, try a reboot now. |
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| 09:29.23 | Genitrust | rebooting |
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| 09:30.23 | Genitrust | heya babilen |
| 09:30.25 | SynrG | tvlooy: ok, for me, ulimit -n is 1024 as well. so i guess that's a default |
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| 09:30.30 | Genitrust | i have the login problem :D ... no x server tho |
| 09:30.42 | babilen | Genitrust: I don't quite follow. |
| 09:30.50 | SynrG | tvlooy: if i set 'ulimit -n 4096' it immediately changes |
| 09:30.56 | tvlooy | SynrG: yeah, it should be the default |
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| 09:31.04 | Genitrust | babilen, the x server didn't start again |
| 09:31.14 | Genitrust | paste Xorg.0.log ? |
| 09:31.22 | babilen | you know the drill ;) |
| 09:31.29 | SynrG | tvlooy: so per process, you can change it to what you want, i guess, up to whatever limit is imposed by limits.conf |
| 09:31.33 | tvlooy | SynrG: it's not system wide if you set it with ulimit -n. If you login again it's defaults again, also I need to set this for a service |
| 09:32.05 | jelly | !limits.conf |
| 09:32.05 | dpkg | /etc/security/limits.conf is a config file for a PAM module named pam_limit. Only PAM services benefit, and only if a line like "session required pam_limits.so" is present uncommented in their /etc/pam.d/ config file. |
| 09:32.22 | jelly | pam pam pam! |
| 09:32.33 | jelly | (to be sung to the tune of Spam Song) |
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| 09:32.37 | Genitrust | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0a219a2a/ |
| 09:33.10 | Genitrust | so close -.- |
| 09:33.28 | jelly | tvlooy: how do you log in? |
| 09:33.38 | tvlooy | jelly: ssh to test |
| 09:33.44 | babilen | Genitrust: Well, different error. Could you paste the output of "dmesg|grep -i nvidia" ? |
| 09:33.47 | petn-randall | ~/ pamity pam, wonderful pam! /~ |
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| 09:34.00 | xerxes | pam, I had a girlfriend called pam |
| 09:34.07 | tvlooy | jelly: I need to set this for a service, maybe just putting a ulimit -n in the init.d script is a good fix? |
| 09:34.21 | andry | :D |
| 09:34.45 | tvlooy | dpkg: what would you suggest? Is there a way to change the default 1024? |
| 09:34.46 | dpkg | tvlooy: what are you talking about? |
| 09:34.47 | jelly | tvlooy: so... is pam_limits enabled in /etc/pam.d/ssh before you log in? |
| 09:34.51 | Genitrust | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/70c4492c/ |
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| 09:35.26 | jelly | tvlooy: which service? |
| 09:35.32 | SynrG | jelly, tvlooy: should be. but don't you mean /etc/pam.d/sshd ? |
| 09:35.37 | xerxes | jelly, what OS are you using ;-) |
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| 09:36.11 | xerxes | jelly, nice of you to try, but you realise you;re fucked from the outset |
| 09:36.26 | jelly | xerxes: I may answer that in #debian-offtopic channel. |
| 09:36.31 | babilen | Genitrust: Oh, I am so sorry |
| 09:36.32 | jelly | SynrG: nope |
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| 09:36.37 | Genitrust | babilen, license "taints kernel"? |
| 09:36.41 | xerxes | ok if you please, |
| 09:36.48 | babilen | Genitrust: /msg judd v nvidia-kernel-dkms-legacy |
| 09:37.00 | Genitrust | huh? @.@ |
| 09:37.02 | jelly | SynrG: oh... sorry, "Yes" apparently it's sshd |
| 09:37.04 | Genitrust | judd? @.@ |
| 09:37.12 | SynrG | jelly: huh. i have no /etc/pam.d/ssh ... |
| 09:37.17 | SynrG | jelly: :) |
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| 09:37.20 | tvlooy | jelly: the .so is not in comment in pam.d/sshd |
| 09:37.34 | Genitrust | awww man, no legacy support for i386? :( |
| 09:37.34 | tvlooy | SynrG: /etc/pam.d/sshd |
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| 09:37.41 | tvlooy | jelly: mongodb |
| 09:37.57 | Genitrust | so maybe i needed to do that apt-get installation to determine whicih nvidia driver... ya kno.. the thing that i wasn't supposed to do? lol |
| 09:38.03 | xerxes | because it;s in /usr/lib/antimony/random/pervert/conf.d/suckmedry |
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| 09:38.44 | jelly | SynrG: you have a customer. |
| 09:38.52 | Genitrust | babilen, ? |
| 09:38.53 | xerxes | I wish debian guys would make software without --FUCKYESIHAVEPOWERDIRECTORYBASE= |
| 09:38.55 | SynrG | jelly, tvlooy: interesting: http://superuser.com/questions/325305/debian-max-file-descriptors |
| 09:39.10 | jelly | well... it could be someone else's customer |
| 09:39.12 | xerxes | but then it wouldnt be debian would it, it works damn well |
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| 09:39.20 | jelly | thanks |
| 09:39.21 | babilen | Genitrust: Sorry, I had you install the wrong driver. Your GPU is supported by a "legacy" driver that comes in a different package. See ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/319.82/README/README.txt ... |
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| 09:40.11 | xerxes | My sincere apologies. |
| 09:40.24 | babilen | Genitrust: So, to deal with this run "apt-get --purge nvidia-kernel-dkms" and then install the nvidia driver you need with "aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms" |
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| 09:40.51 | xerxes | What I like best about debian, say in comparison with openbsd... |
| 09:41.18 | Genitrust | ahh, thanks |
| 09:41.22 | babilen | Genitrust: Err, the first command is broken |
| 09:41.26 | Genitrust | do i literally type legacy-304xx ? |
| 09:41.32 | babilen | Genitrust: Make that "apt-get --purge remove nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
| 09:41.35 | xerxes | Is the linux kernel. |
| 09:41.57 | Genitrust | <--- purging nvidia kernel stuff |
| 09:41.59 | xerxes | Damn you jelly, you are freaking me out. |
| 09:42.12 | dodol | hi i have problem about https conection... someone can help me about server ssl/https cerificate ?? |
| 09:42.14 | Genitrust | then my exact command is the wheezy backports for legacy? |
| 09:42.16 | babilen | xerxes: Please keep it friendly and professional in here. |
| 09:42.37 | babilen | Genitrust: Once you've done that you isntall the right driver with "aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms" |
| 09:42.40 | xerxes | Damn you jelly, you are freaking me out. |
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| 09:42.43 | xerxes | sorry |
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| 09:43.30 | dodol | hi i have problem about https conection... someone can help me about server ssl/https cerificate ?? |
| 09:43.47 | dodol | newbie here |
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| 09:44.21 | Genitrust | babilen, i am installing the legacy driver now :) i'm excited |
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| 09:44.37 | Genitrust | btw, i am happy about how friendly this room is. it is a great change compared to some programming / sys admin channels |
| 09:44.52 | babilen | Genitrust: Sorry, that should have been obvious from the start. But then, nothing too hard to fix and we would have run into your ndiswrapper problem regardless :) |
| 09:44.55 | dodol | how to add https certificate to access some server in mozzila? |
| 09:45.10 | Genitrust | babilen, ya, and i'm learning :) i'm already wondering why use "aptitude" instead of "apt-get install" hehe |
| 09:45.16 | Genitrust | and i'm already wanting to look up -r and -t |
| 09:45.20 | Genitrust | but... machine is working... |
| 09:45.21 | babilen | Genitrust: Thank you, much appreciated. We try hard to keep it on-topic, nice and professional in here. |
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| 09:45.32 | tvlooy | I ended up adding a ulimit -n in the init.d script of mongodb |
| 09:45.35 | Genitrust | how old is everyone here btw? |
| 09:45.40 | SynrG | tvlooy: hm, where were we? oh, i did find an article ... |
| 09:45.44 | Genitrust | babilen, btw, i reboot after this right? ;x |
| 09:45.44 | tvlooy | it seems to work because /proc/pid/limits is showing the correct value |
| 09:45.47 | Genitrust | is 30 |
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| 09:45.55 | SynrG | Genitrust: please join #debian-offtopic for general / social chat |
| 09:45.58 | Kottizen | Hi everyone. What does this mean? "Current status: 1 update [-10]" |
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| 09:46.03 | SynrG | Genitrust: we can be more relaxed there |
| 09:46.06 | Genitrust | SynrG, ok :) |
| 09:46.06 | babilen | Genitrust: aptitude is being used here because it supports the "-r" switch that enables the installation of recommended packages. Some people disable those, but they are needed in this case. |
| 09:46.09 | andry | if shipping to the us of a wouldnt be so expensive, i sent you a wifi stick that does not need ndiswrapper Genitrust ;P |
| 09:46.19 | SynrG | tvlooy: http://superuser.com/questions/325305/debian-max-file-descriptors |
| 09:46.36 | Genitrust | andry, my wifi is working fine without ndiswrapper. i ended up using the firmware that comes with "non-free" hehe |
| 09:46.36 | jelly | Kottizen: 10 packages have been upgraded to latest, one remains with a possible update |
| 09:46.43 | Genitrust | babilen, ok i'm gunna reboot now |
| 09:46.44 | andry | ah okay :) |
| 09:46.46 | Genitrust | it has installed! |
| 09:46.49 | SynrG | "The 1024 files rlimit is not explicitly set anywhere; it's hardcoded into the kernel as the default value ...Other processes simply inherit the limit from init" |
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| 09:46.56 | SynrG | tvlooy: ^^ |
| 09:47.02 | Genitrust | well wait, i guess i dont have to reboot... maybe... |
| 09:47.07 | Genitrust | is rebooting |
| 09:47.21 | SynrG | tvlooy: not sure why it isn't lifted up via limits.conf :/ |
| 09:47.36 | Kottizen | jelly: What does "possible update" mean? If I run aptitude safe-upgrade again, it says everything's up to date. |
| 09:47.40 | Genitrust | is debian's interface the normal gnome 3 ? |
| 09:47.46 | Genitrust | (i have only seen 'unity' so far...) |
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| 09:48.02 | Kottizen | jelly: â |
| 09:48.09 | tvlooy | SynrG: yeah strange. thanks for your help anyway |
| 09:48.24 | Genitrust | babilen, machine has booted up... and guess what? :D |
| 09:48.50 | Kottizen | jelly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7167526 |
| 09:49.00 | Genitrust | no graphical mode... it's in text mode... and a cursor blinks quickly at the top-left corner of mah screen :D |
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| 09:49.07 | jelly | Kottizen: and if you run a full-upgrade? |
| 09:49.26 | babilen | Genitrust: *sigh* |
| 09:49.28 | Kottizen | jelly: "libssl-doc" is added - thanks |
| 09:50.29 | Genitrust | babilen, a |
| 09:50.33 | babilen | Genitrust: You mean it doesn't even boot to *non* graphical mode? |
| 09:50.34 | Genitrust | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/081368bc/ |
| 09:50.40 | Genitrust | non-graphical mode boots |
| 09:50.47 | Genitrust | i just had to do ctrl+alt+f1 ... sorry forgot that detail |
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| 09:51.18 | Genitrust | babilen, strange, now it is just "no devices detected" |
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| 09:51.49 | babilen | Genitrust: You seem to still have the other driver ... Could you show me "dkms status" again (full output) on http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 09:52.30 | Genitrust | babilen, full output is a single line of..... nvidia-legacy-304xx, 304.117, 3.2.0-4-686-pae, i686: installed |
| 09:52.42 | babilen | And you did reboot? |
| 09:52.51 | Genitrust | yes, i did a reboot before i told you about my blinking cursor |
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| 09:54.35 | Genitrust | oh babilen remember... i still have that old X config right? |
| 09:54.46 | Genitrust | the 20-nvidia.conf |
| 09:54.53 | Genitrust | oh wait, i guess that's fine |
| 09:54.56 | Genitrust | wow i'm getting tired :( |
| 09:55.01 | Genitrust | feels so defeated |
| 09:55.30 | babilen | Genitrust: Hang on :) |
| 09:55.39 | Genitrust | hanging |
| 09:56.39 | B_Smith | there is a script for NVIDIA drivers sgfxi |
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| 09:56.54 | B_Smith | have you looked at that? |
| 09:56.57 | babilen | Genitrust: I have to confess that I am not entirely sure what happens, but given that your card *requires* the nvidia driver version in wheezy we will just install it from there. |
| 09:57.42 | babilen | Genitrust: I am not sure why the -legacy- one from backports doesn't do the trick, but this should do it. So first we will purge that again and then install the driver for your card from wheezy (and not wheezy-backports). |
| 09:57.51 | Genitrust | B_Smith, i haven't seen that sgfxi |
| 09:58.03 | Genitrust | babilen, ok cool :D |
| 09:58.06 | B_Smith | I seem to recall that is what I used |
| 09:58.20 | Genitrust | B_Smith, i'm running a crappy HP pavilion dv2000 |
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| 09:58.56 | B_Smith | Hmmmm been a while...soryy in a conf and multitasking |
| 09:59.27 | B_Smith | do a google search |
| 09:59.38 | B_Smith | debian sgfxi |
| 09:59.49 | Genitrust | babilen, apt-get --purge nvidia-legacy-304xx ? :D |
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| 09:59.51 | Genitrust | i think i'm learnin! |
| 10:00.20 | babilen | Genitrust: So, one last try: Run "apt-get --purge autoremove nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms nvidia-glx" also run "apt-get --purge autoremove" after what. Then check the output of "aptitude versions '~i~nnvidia'" to ensure that no 319 version is installed anymore -- Once you've done that reinstall the normal version with "aptitude -r install nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
| 10:01.11 | babilen | Genitrust: I think that maybe the nvidia-glx bit us ... I'm sorry, if it hadn't had been for my "you obviously want the newer version" we could have fixed the ndiswrapper problem and would have been done. |
| 10:01.36 | Genitrust | babilen, the normal version ran 1024x768 with opengl ... which was nice... except tty1 and so-forth were warped :( but i'll take that nice graphical display (this laptop is for my VP) |
| 10:02.06 | babilen | Genitrust: Well, I used "normal" as in "non backported" above |
| 10:02.15 | Genitrust | ok i just did the regular apt-get --purge autoremove ... it's removeing some extra stuff, like nvidia-kernel-common |
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| 10:03.11 | babilen | Genitrust: Good |
| 10:03.25 | Genitrust | heya babilen ... a ton of stuff comes up when i do the aptitude versions command |
| 10:03.31 | Genitrust | oooh, |grep 319 |
| 10:04.05 | Genitrust | babilen, want to see "aptitude versions '~i~nnvidia' |grep 319 ? |
| 10:04.23 | babilen | Could you show me? (aptitude versions '~i~nnvidia'|nopaste) |
| 10:04.32 | Genitrust | there are 5 entires... each have "i A" at the beginning of them |
| 10:04.52 | Genitrust | i'm installing nopaste ;D |
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| 10:05.52 | Genitrust | babilen, http://pastie.org/8975584 |
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| 10:07.06 | babilen | Genitrust: Okay, please all those. "aptitude purge '~i~nnvidia'" -- and you also seem to use "stable" in your sources.list and not "wheezy" -- that will bite you later when we release jessie |
| 10:07.18 | babilen | please *purge all those |
| 10:07.31 | Genitrust | ah ok, thanks... you rock :) |
| 10:07.45 | Genitrust | so the command is... "aptitude purge '~i~nnvidia' " ? |
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| 10:08.12 | babilen | yeah, that will purge all installed (~i) packages with nvidia in their name (~n) |
| 10:08.12 | Genitrust | ...i'm gunna do it man! i'm about to do it!! |
| 10:08.21 | Genitrust | is doin it |
| 10:08.30 | Genitrust | hmm, it asks: |
| 10:08.40 | Genitrust | "remove the following packages? glx-alternative-mesa and glx-diversions" |
| 10:08.42 | Genitrust | Y ? |
| 10:08.44 | Genitrust | Yes* ? |
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| 10:09.28 | babilen | Genitrust: Hmm, yeah -- we can deal with the fallout afterwards |
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| 10:11.57 | Genitrust | ok so i getta big blue message that's like |
| 10:12.04 | Genitrust | "NVIDIA driver is still enabled in xorg.conf" |
| 10:12.15 | Genitrust | oh ok, i just gotta remove that conf file |
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| 10:12.17 | babilen | Genitrust: If that worked without problems you can install the 304 driver from wheezy again with "aptitude -r install nvidia-kernel-dkms" -- that should pull in a bunch of packages you just purged in the 304 version. Once that is done it *should* work okay. |
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| 10:13.15 | babilen | Genitrust: No, don't remove it. The package warns you about it as you just removed the nvidia driver, but you will install it again. The problem was the mixture of 319 and 304 which we have, hopefully, got rid of now. |
| 10:13.36 | Genitrust | ah ok, so i keep it there... now doing the aptitude -r you suggested! |
| 10:13.40 | Genitrust | ...that'll install the official drivers? ;x |
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| 10:14.02 | babilen | Genitrust: Once you are done "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l '*nvidia*'" should show only 304 versions. |
| 10:14.03 | thorus | cgconfigparser -l /etc/cgconfig.conf gives me the error: cgconfigparser; error loading /etc/cgconfig.conf: Cgroup mounting failed, heres my cgconfig.conf: http://pastebin.com/pVjbdsar, I mounted cgroups in /sys/fs/cgroup before with "mount -t tmpfs -o uid=0,gid=0,mode=0755 cgroups /sys/fs/cgroup" |
| 10:14.11 | babilen | Genitrust: yes, that will install the official driver. |
| 10:14.28 | babilen | Genitrust: I'll go and grab a coffee, brb |
| 10:14.33 | Genitrust | ok great! thanks babilen :) |
| 10:14.41 | Genitrust | what time is it where you're at btw? it's 6:15am here -.- |
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| 10:17.15 | Genitrust | babilen, the blue screen tells me, "Mismatching nvidia kernel module loaded" :( but it is 304.88 |
| 10:17.23 | Genitrust | currently loaded version is 304.117 |
| 10:17.59 | arubi | hi all, does 'bg' and 'fg' putting popping processes out of a stack, or is there a list somewhere? |
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| 10:18.10 | Genitrust | arubi, type "jobs" to see the list |
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| 10:18.30 | arubi | aha, thanks. no man entry for them |
| 10:18.35 | Genitrust | so if you do CTRL+Z on a bunch of processes (stopping them, or putting them in the bg), jobs will list them |
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| 10:18.46 | arubi | makes sense. |
| 10:18.52 | Genitrust | oh true, a man entry that says, "also look at 'jobs' command" would be helpful :) |
| 10:19.10 | arubi | yea, try searching google for 'bg list' :) |
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| 10:19.38 | Genitrust | lol |
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| 10:19.43 | arubi | oh well, 'bg fg list' is good :) |
| 10:20.12 | Genitrust | babilen, in the dpk -l, i see 319.82 in there ... i believe that's under transition libgl.so diversions ? or maybe it's part of NVIDIA management Library runtime library |
| 10:20.35 | Genitrust | welp, i'm gunna restart... it can't hurt :) |
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| 10:21.40 | babilen | Genitrust: Could you show me? |
| 10:21.49 | Genitrust | babilen, i just restarted |
| 10:21.56 | Genitrust | and um... looks like i have a bad ass resolution @.@ |
| 10:22.04 | SynrG | arubi, Genitrust: these are bash internals, so 'help' for those |
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| 10:22.07 | babilen | Genitrust: So, it worked? |
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| 10:22.16 | Genitrust | f'k ya @.@ |
| 10:22.22 | babilen | Genitrust: yay |
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| 10:22.35 | Genitrust | babilen, this did not happen when i first installed it of course... |
| 10:22.43 | arubi | SynrG, and 'jobs' is core? |
| 10:22.47 | Genitrust | so in the future, after installing debian 7.4, what should i do to properly get the nvidia driver? |
| 10:23.00 | SynrG | arubi: e.g. 'help jobs'. take a look |
| 10:23.02 | Genitrust | after installation, purge whatever is in dkms status ? |
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| 10:23.20 | SynrG | so, no man pages for these because they're not individual binaries |
| 10:23.21 | arubi | yea I see now SynrG |
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| 10:24.15 | babilen | Genitrust: You just run "aptitude -r install nvidia-kernel-dkms" and create the 20-nvidia.conf -- The problem is that nvidia stopped supporting your GPU in drivers older than 304. Because I erroneously had you install the newer version from backports we had to replace that. |
| 10:24.21 | nrdb | #flood |
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| 10:24.26 | nrdb | sd |
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| 10:25.02 | Genitrust | oooh, so no removal of anything is necessary after install? |
| 10:25.17 | Genitrust | babilen, you have been a huge help... ty so much. and omg i want my main laptop to have debian so bad. i'm sick of ubuntu by now lol |
| 10:25.18 | babilen | Genitrust: If you upgrade that system to jessie you will have to install replace the nvidia-kernel-dkms package with nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms (so that you keep that 304 version) |
| 10:25.27 | Genitrust | ahh ok |
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| 10:26.03 | babilen | Genitrust: And sorry for the extra work. Enjoy the fruits of our labour and have a good night (?)! |
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| 10:26.37 | Genitrust | hey no problem man, you helped a TON |
| 10:26.41 | Genitrust | i want this laptop now. |
| 10:26.41 | Genitrust | lol |
| 10:26.44 | Genitrust | dont wanna give it to mah VP |
| 10:27.29 | SynrG | Genitrust: so, take the plunge and switch over from your ubuntu install :) |
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| 10:28.04 | Genitrust | SynrG, after i sleep ;) |
| 10:28.04 | Genitrust | lol |
| 10:28.12 | SynrG | yes. highly recommended :) |
| 10:29.01 | SanchoPensa | what do i need to do to play a cd? it is obviously copy right protected and the error says: URL cannot be listed audiocd:/ |
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| 10:29.12 | SanchoPensa | i do NOT want to crack anything i only want to LISTEN to it! |
| 10:29.25 | nrdb | Hi I just install Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux on a xen VM ... I tried running this test script ... http://pastebin.com/3ij6YdKB .... with and arg of "1" it uses "tun0" and works fine ... with an arg of "2" it uses "tun1" and fails :-( .... why? ... the only change is the name of the tun device. |
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| 10:29.48 | chocolate | I have server here with I face eth0 and eth1 all good configurated, but inside my client on the same address as eth1 (intranet) I can't ping eth0 and consecutively have not internet... How may I fix it? . |
| 10:29.49 | Genitrust | oh btw, |
| 10:29.56 | Genitrust | how do i get Dropbox to automatically start on login? |
| 10:30.02 | Genitrust | ...doesn't seem to be happenin after install @.@ |
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| 10:31.01 | chocolate | Adding a route may fix it? |
| 10:31.30 | nrdb | chocolate, sounds like you need to setup a NAT from eth1 to eth0 so computers on eth1 subnet can access eth0 |
| 10:31.53 | babilen | Genitrust: Stop using dropbox, liberate yourself and use something *much* more awesome: http://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/ (watch the video) |
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| 10:32.28 | chocolate | Could you pls tell me how? |
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| 10:33.18 | chocolate | nrdb |
| 10:33.24 | Genitrust | babilen, thanks again :) |
| 10:33.27 | SanchoPensa | chocolate: you neet network address translation NAT |
| 10:33.50 | nrdb | chocolate, try http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html |
| 10:34.12 | chocolate | A simple imptables rule? |
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| 10:34.21 | SanchoPensa | iptables basically does that for you, but there are easier ways, for example firestarter has a neat graphical and understandable interface |
| 10:34.52 | SanchoPensa | chocolate: i don't know if it is simple, i am not too familiar with iptables... |
| 10:34.55 | chocolate | But in the way I need a firewall iptables should be better |
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| 10:35.45 | SanchoPensa | firestarter is a firewall, that uses iptables eventually but has own config files where it puts the startup/firewall-initialisation scripts |
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| 10:36.02 | chocolate | Great |
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| 10:36.11 | SanchoPensa | mhm :) |
| 10:36.11 | chocolate | Thank you all by attention |
| 10:36.17 | SanchoPensa | np |
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| 10:36.25 | nrdb | chocolate, ok |
| 10:36.27 | chocolate | So its not about add a route right? |
| 10:36.36 | SanchoPensa | ya basically it is |
| 10:36.54 | chocolate | No I mean by route add ... |
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| 10:36.58 | babilen | chocolate: There are simply many many frontends to iptables as it is considered to be too hard to use without. shorewall is another common choice, but take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/Firewalls |
| 10:36.59 | chocolate | Command |
| 10:37.15 | SanchoPensa | but NAT does a littlebit mor than that, like enabling you to source nat oder destinatiobn nat, whcih has alot to do with firewelling... |
| 10:37.16 | TJ- | chocolate: The dual-homed server will need to be doing IP forwarding, as well as having appropriate routes |
| 10:37.20 | Genitrust | omg, git-annex is like... awesome @.@ |
| 10:37.43 | SanchoPensa | chocolate babilen, also a good one :) |
| 10:37.48 | nrdb | chocolate, you could probably do it with a route too, but would need to change the configuration of all computer on the eth1 subnet to used a different default gateway. |
| 10:37.55 | chocolate | Yes its forwarding already |
| 10:38.08 | babilen | Genitrust: I told you ;) |
| 10:38.23 | hrexen | Hi people, I have upgraded to debian 7.2 to 7.4. Now I want to upgrade gnome from 3.4.2 to 3.10 or 3.12. Does anyone know how to do it? Internet search doesn't help. Thanks. |
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| 10:38.41 | SanchoPensa | chocolate: whether shorewall or firestarte is a pick of taste, the are both nice! |
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| 10:39.29 | nrdb | Hi I just install Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux on a xen VM ... I tried running this test script ... http://pastebin.com/3ij6YdKB .... with and arg of "1" it uses "tun0" and works fine ... with an arg of "2" it uses "tun1" and fails :-( .... why? ... the only change is the name of the tun device. |
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| 10:39.54 | chocolate | I actually prefer do by hands but will take a look and shore.. Its famous all ppl talk about and I've never seen |
| 10:40.09 | SanchoPensa | !audiocd |
| 10:40.51 | SanchoPensa | erm... |
| 10:41.03 | SanchoPensa | is there a bot present in this channel, and if so, whats ists trigger? |
| 10:41.21 | babilen | dpkg: tell SanchoPensa -about msgthebot |
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| 10:41.29 | SanchoPensa | thx! |
| 10:42.05 | Genitrust | babilen, i hope to see you again in the future :) and thanks to SynrG as well :D |
| 10:42.29 | babilen | Genitrust: If you come back here you will, have a good night and see you around :) |
| 10:42.49 | SynrG | Genitrust: np. later. nice to meet |
| 10:44.40 | Genitrust | oh darn, i do need to figure out this dropbox thing before i go... tis a requirement... |
| 10:44.52 | SanchoPensa | wow! |
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| 10:45.11 | SanchoPensa | babilen: can i ask you afew questions about that bot? it appears to be amazing! |
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| 10:45.38 | Genitrust | i am soooooo setting up git-annex on my other machines asap @.@ |
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| 10:45.48 | Genitrust | ...then this company will use it as wel :D mwa hahaha |
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| 10:49.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell SanchoPensa about dpkgbot |
| 10:49.15 | babilen | SanchoPensa: if you have additional questions just ask. |
| 10:49.35 | SanchoPensa | yeah i have just been on that site, and i have A LOT of questions! |
| 10:49.53 | SanchoPensa | like: is that a normal eggdrop with a few selvreated tcl scripts or waht bot is that?? |
| 10:49.59 | SanchoPensa | how does it "learn"?? |
| 10:50.06 | Genitrust | where can i specify dropbox to automatically startup when a user logs in? ;x |
| 10:50.21 | SanchoPensa | it is amazing waht phuny things it can answer like f ex, /msg dpk heh |
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| 10:51.07 | babilen | SanchoPensa: It is maintained by this channel and it is an infobot (we would use a supybot these days though) |
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| 10:51.27 | SanchoPensa | !!! |
| 10:51.27 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 10:51.36 | SanchoPensa | duuude! thanks for the info :) |
| 10:51.49 | babilen | SanchoPensa: You should, however, not play with the bot in this channel as it is pretty disruptive |
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| 10:52.04 | SanchoPensa | babilen, nah don't worry! |
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| 10:52.26 | SanchoPensa | my professin interest is not because i want to HACK it but because i have a few of my own in quakenet... |
| 10:52.51 | SanchoPensa | but they run on quite antique scripts so therefore my interest:) |
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| 10:56.02 | SanchoPensa | babilen: dude i love you for the supybot hint! |
| 10:56.15 | SanchoPensa | one more questin: am i allowed to put an own biot in here? |
| 10:56.18 | SanchoPensa | like to learn? |
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| 10:57.42 | babilen | SanchoPensa: We generally don't like additional bots in this channel, but feel free to ask in #debian-bots |
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| 10:58.07 | SanchoPensa | so ther eis achannel for that! wow! |
| 10:58.15 | SanchoPensa | how many debian related channels are there? |
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| 10:59.00 | SanchoPensa | (i hope i am not causing to mcuh noise in here with my "meta" questins...?) |
| 10:59.04 | babilen | SanchoPensa: Most are on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) but there are some here too. Check with alis: "/msg alis list *debian*" |
| 10:59.14 | babilen | SanchoPensa: Well, I hope that you are done soon ;) |
| 10:59.22 | n0buddy | hey penguins :D |
| 10:59.30 | SanchoPensa | \!!! geeez! even an own irce network! |
| 11:00.02 | SanchoPensa | babilen: well if you want me to i will, but actually i had a ton more :D can i pm you? |
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| 11:00.46 | babilen | SanchoPensa: sure |
| 11:01.09 | SanchoPensa | thanx, dude, i really appreciate it! :) |
| 11:01.50 | n0buddy | !tk |
| 11:01.50 | dpkg | it has been said that tk is the TKinter GUI toolkit |
| 11:02.03 | n0buddy | !linus |
| 11:02.04 | dpkg | somebody said linus was The Man. or someone who pushes to have procfs replace sysctl, despite the fact for programs this makes things significantly slower. someone that doesn't comment, or at http://revolution-os.com/images/linus_at_linuxworld.jpg |
| 11:02.21 | SynrG | !tell n0buddy about msg the bot |
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| 11:02.47 | n0buddy | bye xD |
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| 11:03.39 | babilen | n0buddy: Please don't play with the bot |
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| 11:06.50 | tparcina | Where can I download form linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem for Lenny? |
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| 11:07.15 | mjt | yay lenny |
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| 11:07.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell tparcina -about lenny sources.list |
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| 11:08.13 | babilen | tparcina: And you should have upgraded that box years ago. Seriously! It constitutes a menace to society. |
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| 11:09.45 | chocolate | Hey friends I did iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE without success |
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| 11:10.19 | chocolate | To allow the route on eth0 to client on eth1 range |
| 11:10.36 | Genitrust | guys i need help once more :( |
| 11:10.41 | chocolate | And he pings eth1 but not eth0 |
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| 11:11.38 | Genitrust | i try to install armory's dpkg file, and i get the error, "package python-qt4 is not installed" |
| 11:11.59 | chocolate | Some advice? |
| 11:12.17 | babilen | Genitrust: Paste your exact command(s) and their entire output to http://paste.debian.net please |
| 11:12.49 | Genitrust | babilen, it basically just tells me that i need python-qt4, so no big deal... then i try to apt-get install it... i'll paste the output |
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| 11:13.29 | Genitrust | babilen, http://pastie.org/8975691 |
| 11:13.51 | babilen | Genitrust: You didn't paste your command |
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| 11:13.56 | Genitrust | if i run "apt-get -f install", those issues aren't corrected |
| 11:14.03 | Genitrust | oh sorry, the command was... "apt-get install python-qt4" |
| 11:14.06 | Genitrust | (sudo of course) |
| 11:14.32 | babilen | Genitrust: I doubt that "apt-get install python-qt4" results in "package python-qt4 is not installed" |
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| 11:14.38 | woshty | Is there a channel for linuxtv.org somewhere? |
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| 11:14.51 | Sbroker | Hi from Spain |
| 11:14.57 | Genitrust | babilen, i try to install armory's dpkg file, and i get the error, "package python-qt4 is not installed" |
| 11:15.03 | Genitrust | so then i go to install python-qt4 |
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| 11:15.39 | xreal | I've build my kernel with "kernel_image kernel_headers". Do I also need "modules_image" ? |
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| 11:15.49 | babilen | Genitrust: Show me your sources.list, all commands and all output and throw in "apt-cache policy python-qt4" too. I also have no idea what you actually installed to cause this situation, so please start from the beginning and include everything. Use http://paste.debian.net if you want to do me a favour. |
| 11:15.52 | pcostamagn | Hi at all! By |
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| 11:15.56 | SynrG | Sbroker: hi. do you have a debian support question? |
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| 11:16.12 | Genitrust | babilen, sources: http://pastie.org/8975696 |
| 11:16.24 | Genitrust | (man, this |nopaste thing is so awesome -.- ) |
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| 11:16.50 | SynrG | xreal: not unless building out-of-tree modules packages, no |
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| 11:17.51 | xreal | SynrG: Finall someone! Please stay here. |
| 11:17.56 | xreal | SynrG: Please for some seconds. |
| 11:18.00 | SynrG | xreal: also, see the debian kernel handbook for an alternate way to build debian kernel packages. make-kpkg is not used by the kernel devs for official packages |
| 11:18.15 | xreal | SynrG: I know: make-kpkg, debian/rules binary-generic, make deb-pkg, dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 11:18.34 | babilen | Genitrust: Okay, that sources.list is slightly broken (you still have "stable" in there) -- Please use http://paste.debian.net/90169, run "apt-get update" |
| 11:18.35 | Genitrust | babilen, i kept doing "apt-get -f install" each time apt suggested i did that... and i realized i kept going in circles with dependencies -.- |
| 11:18.48 | xreal | SynrG: My problem is: dpkg-buildpackage wants to download about 700 MB of dependencies! Even x11, TexLive etc. |
| 11:18.57 | xreal | SynrG: make-kpkg works without these 700 MB. |
| 11:19.02 | Genitrust | thanks babilen :D you're mah hero! |
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| 11:19.05 | babilen | Genitrust: I have to see your original command. What is this "armory's" you refer to? And please just put everything on http://paste.debian.net |
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| 11:20.01 | SynrG | xreal: 700M is really a hardship for you? so sad |
| 11:20.04 | babilen | Genitrust: And consider setting the "NOPASTE_SERVICES=Debian" environment variable .. but then you can just copy&paste directly. |
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| 11:20.32 | SynrG | xreal: anyway, you can use whatever method you like. i just thought the 'official' way was better :) |
| 11:20.56 | xreal | SynrG: 700 MB on a slow line is ... deadly. |
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| 11:21.42 | xreal | SynrG: what are "out-of-tree modules packages"? :) |
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| 11:22.54 | SynrG | xreal: before dkms, it was a way to deliver kernel modules in the archive |
| 11:23.01 | Genitrust | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/2a824a4b |
| 11:23.44 | babilen | Genitrust: Okay, you installed a .deb file not intended nor compatible with Debian wheezy. It's dependencies cannot be satisfied. |
| 11:24.00 | Genitrust | aw man for realz? >[ |
| 11:24.07 | colo-work | ... |
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| 11:24.28 | babilen | Genitrust: Try running "apt-get -f install" but I guess that it'll result in the same error |
| 11:24.39 | xreal | SynrG: I think, the new make-kpkg doesn't support "modules_image" at all. I tried it with "kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image" and only got linux-headers and linux-image :( |
| 11:24.43 | Genitrust | babilen, ya, it just kept putting me in circles |
| 11:24.45 | SynrG | xreal: this is largely replaced now by dkms. so long as you have the kbuild and -headers for your kernel ... |
| 11:24.45 | Genitrust | i'll try once more |
| 11:24.48 | Genitrust | thanks a lot babilen :) |
| 11:25.08 | Genitrust | i just have to build this from source i guess |
| 11:25.09 | SynrG | xreal: that's because your source tree has no out-of-tree modules in it |
| 11:25.33 | SynrG | xreal: look in /usr/src/modules |
| 11:25.38 | SynrG | xreal: anything there? :) |
| 11:25.41 | xreal | SynrG: I'm using a normal debian source for it. |
| 11:25.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell Genitrust -about stow |
| 11:25.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell Genitrust -about stow usage |
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| 11:26.05 | SynrG | xreal: i think you've missed the point of 'out-of-tree'. that's stuff *not* included in the kernel source |
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| 11:26.16 | xreal | SynrG: ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! |
| 11:26.18 | SynrG | xreal: e.g. vbox, etc. |
| 11:26.20 | Genitrust | hmm interesting |
| 11:26.27 | SynrG | xreal: these days, replaced by dkms |
| 11:26.29 | xreal | SynrG: I thought just unusual stuff. |
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| 11:26.50 | babilen | Genitrust: Use stow to manage that manual installation and remove that broken pacakge of horror with "dpkg --purge armory" |
| 11:26.57 | SynrG | xreal: if you need any stuff like that all you need is dkms, a -dkms package for it, the kbuild for your kernel, and the headers for your kernel. |
| 11:26.58 | xreal | SynrG: I'll do some more testing the next days. Are you often on #debian or in freenode? |
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| 11:27.17 | Genitrust | ...computer just shut down @.@ |
| 11:27.23 | Genitrust | i must have done something crazy |
| 11:27.35 | SynrG | xreal: i'm here 24/7 |
| 11:27.44 | SynrG | xreal: not always *awake*, though ;) |
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| 11:28.24 | SynrG | xreal: however, you may address your questions to the channel and others here ought to be able to help. i know sometimes it's hard to have your voice heard ... but just be patient :) |
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| 11:29.18 | xreal | SynrG: I don't think anyone reads logs here... noone cares about a question asked 8 hours ago. And since I don't have a bot, I can't read old messages. |
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| 11:31.03 | Genitrust | hey HEY ... |
| 11:31.08 | Genitrust | nm |
| 11:31.43 | SynrG | 8 hours ago was 00:30 localtime. of course, i wouldn't be awake then |
| 11:33.11 | SynrG | xreal: i read the backlog, but i tend not to read 8-hours-old backlogs :) just the recent stuff |
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| 11:33.25 | SynrG | and i think most helpers are like that |
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| 11:34.45 | xreal | SynrG: Just for you, I'll download 700 MB now :D |
| 11:34.50 | xreal | (and just for testing) |
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| 11:37.51 | elichai2 | hi |
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| 11:38.03 | thomaschaaf | I am using bind9 as a DNS Server and would like to add some "local" dns rules within company premisis. We own domain.com and I want to add company.domain.com to the request. I'd like to have domain.com be resolved by the public dns and only add company.domain.com dynamically. Is that possible? |
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| 11:39.37 | elichai2 | hi |
| 11:40.01 | elichai2 | i've tried to upgrade my grub and i get only the ver "1.99-27deb7u2" it's the most updated one? |
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| 11:41.21 | elichai2 | i've tried to upgrade my grub and i get only the ver "1.99-27deb7u2" it's the most updated one? |
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| 11:42.14 | babilen | elichai2: yes, that is correct |
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| 11:44.35 | elichai2 | babilen: i can't get my grub look like Ubuntu's GRUB? |
| 11:44.42 | elichai2 | (here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=g2_grubversion1.png ) |
| 11:44.56 | elichai2 | it looks niceier and more orginazied |
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| 11:45.20 | elichai2 | *organized |
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| 11:46.33 | Brody | Hi, noob here, first time downloading and unzipping using cli. Ive done these steps; sudo apt-get install zip unzip. I downloaded wordpress-3.8.1.zip and it is in /home/downloads (I think thats how you word it). I want to unzip it to /tmp and i am using; unzip wordpress-3.8.1.zip -d /tmp |
| 11:46.41 | babilen | elichai2: The grub design is different, but you can disable the graphical terminal. Read "info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'" and edit /etc/default/grub to your liking. The theme is in /etc/grub/05_debian_theme -- but I wouldn't necessarily recommend to edit that. |
| 11:46.42 | Brody | cannot find file |
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| 11:47.11 | elichai2 | babilen: yeah but in Ubuntu's all the old kernels ver. are in a seperate "folder" |
| 11:47.17 | elichai2 | and the recoveries kernels too |
| 11:47.32 | babilen | Brody: zip and unzip are rarely needed as you can just use "tar -xzf FOO.zip" for that. I would recommend to use an automatic unpacker such as the "aunpack" in the "atool" package. |
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| 11:47.53 | Brody | babilen thanks |
| 11:47.56 | babilen | elichai2: The same layout is standard in newer versions of Debian, but not in wheezy. |
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| 11:48.26 | elichai2 | babilen: ammm.... what about backports? |
| 11:48.41 | elichai2 | i want to stay in stable version of debian right now... |
| 11:48.58 | babilen | elichai2: Yes, grub has not been backported |
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| 11:49.59 | elichai2 | babilen: so i can't organize my GRUB like that? (without moving to test distro) |
| 11:50.11 | Brody | babilen so i need to download atools, then use aunpack to unzip it to /tmp ? why cant i just use unzip |
| 11:50.16 | elichai2 | ? |
| 11:50.42 | babilen | Brody: You should be able to use unzip, it's just that I haven't used it in ... well ... more than a decade. |
| 11:51.08 | Genitrust | guys i am having quite a problem here :( |
| 11:51.13 | Genitrust | trying to install something from source.... |
| 11:51.21 | babilen | Brody: I'd use "tar -xzf wordpress-3.8.1.zip -C /tmp" |
| 11:51.26 | Genitrust | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8df91a4b/ |
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| 11:51.54 | Genitrust | on line 1 i'm retrying my "make" (had to install some stuff). on line 18 i'm trying to install pyqt4-dev-tools because apparently that's what i need |
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| 11:52.27 | babilen | Genitrust: You have to install the -dev packages for the libraries you want to link against. pyqt4-dev-tools is one of them. |
| 11:52.29 | Genitrust | my only guess is to do "apt-get autoremove", and then re-try installing pyqt4-dev-tools =\ |
| 11:52.37 | Brody | babilen and im guessing that is after sudo install atools |
| 11:52.43 | elichai2 | babilen: so? no way? |
| 11:53.02 | Genitrust | babilen, but aren't i attempting to install it on line 18 ? |
| 11:53.27 | Genitrust | wow everyone loves babilen :) i'll wait in line |
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| 11:53.28 | babilen | Genitrust: You broke your dependencies somehow ... Mind showing me the output of "apt-cache policy python-qt4" -- did you purge that armory package with dpkg earlier? |
| 11:53.41 | Genitrust | babilen, i didn't know how to purge the armory thing earlier |
| 11:53.47 | Genitrust | lemme get ya output of that command tho... |
| 11:53.56 | babilen | elichai2: No, no way unless you want to maintain the different configuration yourself. |
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| 11:54.07 | babilen | Genitrust: I told you! "dpkg --purge armory" |
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| 11:54.13 | TomyWork | hi |
| 11:54.16 | elichai2 | too bad |
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| 11:54.21 | Genitrust | babilen, output of "sudo apt-cache policy python-qt4": http://pastie.org/8975786 |
| 11:54.21 | TomyWork | i have a bunch of tars i want to package |
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| 11:54.37 | Genitrust | is purging armory now :D |
| 11:54.49 | TomyWork | i have a base tar and some "fix packs" that overwrite certain files |
| 11:55.00 | babilen | Brody: No, you don't need atool for that. I simply like the "unpack SOMEPACKEDTHING" with aunpack (automatic unpacker), but it is not needed for tar at all. |
| 11:55.31 | Brody | babilen yea i tried it, but it still says cant find file |
| 11:55.45 | Genitrust | babilen, ok i purged armory. i still get the same error when doing apt-get install pyqt4-dev-tools |
| 11:55.45 | TomyWork | the base tar is 700 mb, the fixpacks are 130-150 mb. can i package differential packages or something somehow? |
| 11:55.52 | babilen | Brody: What says that when you do what? |
| 11:56.38 | Brody | babilen im in gnome-terminal as user (not root) "no such file or directory" |
| 11:57.02 | babilen | Brody: Could you paste your command and show me your exact command and its output? Also include that of "ls -la" please and put it all on http://paste.debian.net |
| 11:57.30 | babilen | Brody: And are you *sure* that you want to unpack it to /tmp ? |
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| 11:58.31 | Brody | babilen im following this guide to install wordpress; http://linuxcommando.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/install-wordpress-38-on-debian-wheezy.html |
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| 12:00.14 | Genitrust | babilen, still no luck for me : |
| 12:00.15 | Genitrust | :( * |
| 12:00.24 | babilen | Genitrust: How so? |
| 12:00.48 | babilen | Genitrust: And seriously: Do *not* install random .deb files from third-party sources. |
| 12:00.49 | Genitrust | i get the same dependency issue when i try to install the python qt stuff |
| 12:00.53 | Genitrust | here lemme show ya again... |
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| 12:01.01 | Genitrust | babilen, i'll remember that ;( |
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| 12:01.40 | Brody | babilen here is the paste http://paste.debian.net/90175/ |
| 12:01.44 | babilen | Genitrust: Show me the output of "apt-cache policy python-qt4" and also "apt-cache policy armory" along with "aptitude search '~b'" |
| 12:01.51 | Genitrust | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/37c96629 |
| 12:01.58 | Genitrust | ok lemme show you those too |
| 12:02.08 | babilen | Brody: You forgot to include the output of "ls -la" in there. |
| 12:02.38 | eKyNoX | Hello any way to install past amd catalyst drivers (13.12) on a Debian sid. Looks like official proprietary drivers are bugged and tried already some workaround on the net without success |
| 12:02.42 | babilen | Brody: My assumption is that wordpress-3.8.1.zip is not in the directory in which you are |
| 12:03.16 | Genitrust | babilen, and here's the other output you asked for: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/58f30a09 |
| 12:03.28 | Brody | babilen ah i see, i have to change directory first :) back to google ! |
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| 12:04.45 | babilen | Genitrust: Could you run "aptitude install python-qt4" and show me the output of that? |
| 12:05.05 | jonkri | When would a package typically need to make it into unstable in order to be included with the Debian feature freeze (I'm thinking about the one in November 2014)? |
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| 12:05.22 | average | hey |
| 12:05.33 | average | installed a package called aide |
| 12:05.34 | babilen | Genitrust: And you are *still* not using the /etc/apt/sources.list I provided earlier. This *will* cause you problems. Please use the one I pasted earlier and run "apt-get update" |
| 12:05.39 | average | has a cronjob in /etc/cron.daily/ |
| 12:05.46 | average | I moved that to /etc/cron.weekly/ |
| 12:05.53 | average | job keeps executing as daily |
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| 12:06.04 | average | I'm still looking at the problem... if you have an idea let me know |
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| 12:08.07 | Brody | i cd to /home but still it cant find file. i cd to /home/downloads and it cant find the directory. i cd to /home/brody/downloads and it cant find the directory. am i accident prone? hehe |
| 12:08.24 | babilen | Brody: You simply have to figure out where you saved that wordpress zip. I'd guess ~/Downloads but then I have no idea what *you* did. |
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| 12:10.46 | Genitrust | babilen, i am using the sources you suggested :( |
| 12:10.56 | Genitrust | oh wait, i have the "non-free" in there too... that's causing the issue eh? |
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| 12:11.47 | Brody | babilen im looking at the file, if i use the graphical i click file system, home, brody, downloads and its there. so i think that means /home/brody/downloads |
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| 12:12.07 | chocolate | I have openvpn well configured between my home and my remote server... But I feels like the data is not passing through the tunnel, I also explored smb share on server outsized tunnel and if I block it on firewall and accept for the route from tunnel I can't even see smb content... I'm not experienced with openvpn so much and would really enjoy any experience about it or advice's... |
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| 12:12.33 | babilen | Genitrust: You are almost certainly not using *exactly* the sources.list I pasted or you forgot to run "apt-get update" -- Please, just use what I pasted and then run "apt-get update" and show me the output of "aptitude install python-qt4" |
| 12:13.05 | babilen | Brody: You could also install file-roller and unpack from within nautilus (the file manager) |
| 12:13.19 | eKyNoX | Hello any way to install past amd catalyst drivers (13.12) on a Debian sid. Looks like official proprietary drivers are bugged and tried already some workaround on the net without success |
| 12:13.32 | babilen | Brody: And I guess it is /home/brody/Downloads (or ~/Downloads) |
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| 12:13.52 | Brody | babilen righto, i must say thankyou for your patience with such a noob. Much appreciated |
| 12:13.56 | jonkri | Sorry, I got disconnected. When would a package typically need to make it into unstable in order to be included with the Debian feature freeze (I'm thinking about the one in November 2014, the one for Debian 8)? |
| 12:14.13 | chocolate | The main of my goals is how to set data inside tunnel on openvpn cz its juts connecting it seems |
| 12:14.32 | babilen | eKyNoX: Not really .. you could grab some packages from snapshots, but there is not really an easy way to install those. |
| 12:14.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell eKyNoX -about snapshot |
| 12:15.14 | eKyNoX | dpkg not working today |
| 12:15.14 | dpkg | eKyNoX: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 12:15.53 | babilen | eKyNoX: It sent you a private message, check your tabs/windows/... in your IRC client |
| 12:16.01 | eKyNoX | kk |
| 12:16.29 | chocolate | Someone could take my doubts about openvpn? |
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| 12:17.46 | Genitrust | babilen, ok i got it... here's the output of the command: |
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| 12:17.56 | Genitrust | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/ad8078e2 |
| 12:17.58 | tparcina | babilen: Thank you. I know I should upgrade, just it's in production and I got it when I started to work in new company. |
| 12:18.14 | trewas | jonkri: in the easiest case (leaf package with no funny dependencies or RC bugs) ten days before the freeze, if there are some transitions involved maybe several months |
| 12:18.24 | babilen | tparcina: i understand! Good luck! |
| 12:18.54 | tparcina | babilen: And package I'm looking for (linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem) isn't in those repositories. :( |
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| 12:19.23 | babilen | Genitrust: Could it be that you had, at one point, enabled testing, jessie, sid or unstable in your sources.list and installed packages from there? |
| 12:19.33 | babilen | Well, you obviusly did. |
| 12:19.35 | Genitrust | definitely not |
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| 12:19.56 | Genitrust | i know not testing, not jessie, not sid... unstable? only if i pasted it to ya earlier :D |
| 12:20.06 | babilen | So, how did you install libqtcore4 4:4.8.5+git242-g0315971+dfsg-2 ? |
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| 12:20.24 | Genitrust | babilen, probably from me doing "sudo apt-get -f install" earlier, per apt's suggestion |
| 12:20.33 | Genitrust | i was going in circles with that earlier |
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| 12:20.59 | Genitrust | i guess it's not possible for armory to have done that (from the dpkg ... especially since we purged it) |
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| 12:21.11 | eKyNoX | babilen: How to install snapshot of fglrx-driver ? Need to add a line in my sid sources.list ? |
| 12:21.26 | Genitrust | i may have had "unstable", but that would've been at a time where i was trying to get the video drivers to work. (that was well before the whole armory install attempt) |
| 12:21.28 | babilen | Genitrust: You had a commented "unstable" source in your sources.list earlier. I could prove to you that you must have at one point installed those packages from unstable or testing, but I'd prefer if you remembered what you did. |
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| 12:21.45 | Genitrust | very reasonably said |
| 12:21.52 | babilen | eKyNoX: You download all needed packages manually and install them manually |
| 12:22.00 | Genitrust | was it commented from the DVD source? |
| 12:22.01 | eKyNoX | ok Tks babilen |
| 12:22.47 | Genitrust | babilen, i'm quite certain (and I believe I recall correctly) that I did not attempt any apt qt installations with "unstable" in there. |
| 12:22.47 | babilen | Genitrust: Well, your pastes expired and I can't show you anymore. Either way: Your systems is broken |
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| 12:22.54 | babilen | dpkg: frankendebian |
| 12:22.55 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 12:23.11 | babilen | Genitrust: Well, you must have had it enabled at one point and it got installed. |
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| 12:23.43 | babilen | Genitrust: What does "aptitude versions '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'" give you? |
| 12:23.45 | Nik05 | who has a frankendebian? |
| 12:23.46 | Genitrust | babilen, no, absolutely not. i was simply trying to install a wifi driver (which i did fine) and then the graphics driver (which you helped with) |
| 12:23.56 | Genitrust | lemme see... |
| 12:24.42 | babilen | Genitrust: We could dig into the logs, but I saw a commented unstable source in your list (that you must have added!) and you have versions from unstable (or testing) installed. So there is no point in debating this. you did install them (intentionally or unintentionally doesn't matter) |
| 12:25.06 | babilen | Genitrust: Do *not* *never* *ever* mix releases |
| 12:25.24 | babilen | err |
| 12:25.30 | babilen | Genitrust: Do *not* *ever* mix releases |
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| 12:26.06 | Genitrust | babilen, no. you must be mistaken. i'm not debating either, i'm just letting ya know |
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| 12:26.17 | Genitrust | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/09255c19/ |
| 12:26.20 | Genitrust | ^-- output of your command |
| 12:26.36 | Genitrust | oh hey... i got somethin for ya... |
| 12:26.42 | Genitrust | there's an additional source... ppa:bitcoin ? |
| 12:26.50 | Genitrust | that's not in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:26.56 | babilen | yes, also don't use PPAs |
| 12:27.01 | eKyNoX | babilen: For example I tried to get fglrx-driver_13.11~betav9.4-1_amd64.deb from snapshots, then dpkg -i package, and asks for dependancies (xorg-video..., glx-alternative..., etc..), does I have to download that packages debs and place it in the same directory, or maybe installing it first manually ? |
| 12:27.06 | Genitrust | babilen, then what am i to use if not PPAs? |
| 12:27.14 | Genitrust | (just compile the source?) |
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| 12:27.36 | Nik05 | eKyNoX you are running wheezy? then use back ports |
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| 12:27.51 | eKyNoX | babilen: Also, can my xorg sid version be unable to use that driver ? |
| 12:27.55 | eKyNoX | Nik05: no, I'm on sid |
| 12:28.18 | Nik05 | then what are you doing with snapshots? :S |
| 12:28.28 | Genitrust | eKyNoX, you're trying to install AMD's overdrive drivers? |
| 12:28.33 | babilen | Genitrust: Seriously, you even have a newer libc6 installed. Your system is no longer wheezy (at all) and I would recommend a reinstall. If the package is not available in Debian and if upstream doesn't make packages available for Debian (not the same as Ubuntu) then yes, you would have to compile from source. |
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| 12:28.43 | eKyNoX | babilen told me to use it to install a past amd driver (13.12) |
| 12:28.49 | babilen | dpkg: tell Genitrust about ppa |
| 12:28.58 | Genitrust | ahh ok, thank you babilen for explaining this |
| 12:29.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell Genitrust about why not use a ppa |
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| 12:29.10 | Nik05 | and then eKyNoX oh 14.3 doesnt work? |
| 12:29.11 | Genitrust | looks like i learned another thing. at least this wasn't on a production server lol |
| 12:29.29 | Nik05 | /s/and then// |
| 12:29.30 | babilen | Genitrust: Seriously, don't install random crap on your box |
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| 12:30.15 | Genitrust | babilen, to be reasonable, i think the lesson is, "dont mix install methods", not "don't install random crap", because frankly, i know exactly what software i need on this machine. |
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| 12:30.29 | Genitrust | i just dont know its dependencies, or the fact that PPA is a bad idea, etc |
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| 12:30.43 | eKyNoX | Nik05, babilen so ? |
| 12:31.00 | eKyNoX | Nik05: I need past drivers |
| 12:31.11 | eKyNoX | not the last ones |
| 12:31.22 | babilen | Genitrust: Fair enough, but you obviously installed packages that are neither compatible nor meant to be used with Debian. I would *strongly* recommend to stick to official repositories and to install additional software from source and to manage those with stow. |
| 12:31.42 | Genitrust | yup, i got that from your past 5 messages. i understand, ty :) |
| 12:31.53 | babilen | Genitrust: In fact, just use the sources.list I pasted and you should be fine. :) |
| 12:31.59 | Genitrust | i think i'm gunna just backup the home directory, and then reinstall this baby |
| 12:32.03 | babilen | +1 |
| 12:32.07 | Genitrust | awesome... i get to redo the wifi and video driver haha |
| 12:32.10 | babilen | Genitrust: Is this your personal box? |
| 12:32.22 | Genitrust | it's the company VP's laptop @.@ |
| 12:32.38 | Genitrust | damn it... and i am only 1 software package away from being done hahahahah |
| 12:32.39 | babilen | And you need bitcoin running on that? |
| 12:32.45 | Genitrust | yup. |
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| 12:32.56 | Genitrust | more specifically, armory. which requires bitcoin |
| 12:32.57 | babilen | Genitrust: Well, you broke the entire packaging system by mixing in random releases. |
| 12:33.14 | Genitrust | babilen, well at least i had good guidance along the way :) |
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| 12:33.23 | eKyNoX | babilen: For example I tried to get fglrx-driver_13.11~betav9.4-1_amd64.deb from snapshots, then dpkg -i package, and asks for dependancies (xorg-video..., glx-alternative..., etc..), does I have to download that packages debs and place it in the same directory, or maybe installing it first manually ? |
| 12:33.32 | Nik05 | eKyNoX cant you just install the packages it needs from sid? |
| 12:33.32 | Genitrust | who knows how much more fked up it would've been, and how much more time i would've wasted... |
| 12:34.00 | eKyNoX | Nik05: No I really need catalyst 13.12 or 13.11 beta 9.4 |
| 12:34.16 | Genitrust | babilen, so here's a proposal: i backup home directory, reinstall, and then re-run the bash history hahahhaa |
| 12:34.16 | eKyNoX | Nik05: it's about crypto currency mining |
| 12:34.17 | Nik05 | yes but the other packages, cant you get them from sid? |
| 12:34.35 | Genitrust | eKyNoX, ya man, i tried asking you some questions, i know all about it. it's entirely what the company i work for does |
| 12:35.15 | eKyNoX | Sorry Genitrust, which questions ? :) |
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| 12:35.29 | Genitrust | eKyNoX, if you really need catalyst 13.12, (if i remember correctly), wouldn't it be a better idea to just install ubuntu 12 LTS? or debian squeeze? |
| 12:35.59 | Genitrust | i believe we were using those OSes when we had to use those versions of catalyst |
| 12:36.06 | Genitrust | for 5870s, right? |
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| 12:36.13 | eKyNoX | Genitrust: It's my personnal box and mining box, then all is already installed (except past video drivers) since a long time. I do not wish changing now :) |
| 12:36.15 | jonkri | Thanks a lot, trewas. :) |
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| 12:36.29 | eKyNoX | Nik05: seems to be only last fglrx-driver on sid (14.3) |
| 12:36.34 | Genitrust | ah ok, well i'm just lettin ya know it'll be significantly less work :) |
| 12:36.42 | eKyNoX | I know :) |
| 12:36.52 | eKyNoX | and 13.12 are bugged |
| 12:36.55 | Nik05 | yes eKyNoX i still the one you need |
| 12:37.03 | Nik05 | /s/i/install/ |
| 12:37.06 | eKyNoX | ? |
| 12:37.12 | Nik05 | yeah sorry im typing rubbish |
| 12:37.18 | Nik05 | yes eKyNoX install the one you need :P |
| 12:37.21 | eKyNoX | did not understood that one Nik05 :) |
| 12:37.29 | Nik05 | neither did i |
| 12:37.51 | Genitrust | babilen, OOOO i have an idea... how about i just whipe out the bitcoin-qt install? that's what used the PPA ? :D |
| 12:38.12 | Nik05 | eKyNoX if you really need 13.12 install that one with dpkg and use apt-get to install the dependencies |
| 12:38.29 | eKyNoX | Nik05: I tried from ati official website, but 13.12 is problematic. Tried all workarounds without any changes, still getting same error. Please see : http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=352057 |
| 12:38.51 | Nik05 | no dont do that, do what babilen said |
| 12:39.05 | eKyNoX | Nik05: using snapshots ? |
| 12:39.08 | eKyNoX | kk |
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| 12:40.44 | eKyNoX | Nik05: so if dpkg needs glx-alternative-fglrx, I try a apt-get install glx-alternative-fglrx, right ? But, by that way, glx-alternative-fglrx will be the last version, and not the old my 13.12 driver needs no ? |
| 12:41.53 | Nik05 | guess you also need that one from snapshots then |
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| 12:42.09 | eKyNoX | that's ok, Nik05 |
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| 12:42.16 | eKyNoX | looking for any packages :) |
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| 12:42.38 | eKyNoX | Thanks a lot Nik05 Genitrust babilen, coming back if needed |
| 12:43.03 | Genitrust | babilen, OH YA IN YO FACE!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:43.04 | Nik05 | if you add debian snapshots, and then you probably need to pin packages to that snapshot |
| 12:43.06 | Genitrust | i just fixed it. beitch! |
| 12:43.15 | Nik05 | but i havent worked with snapshots |
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| 12:43.35 | Genitrust | babilen, it was actually much simplier than i thought |
| 12:45.11 | babilen | Genitrust: Please try to keep it focussed and professional in here |
| 12:45.16 | andry | ... |
| 12:45.30 | Genitrust | you not curious what i did? |
| 12:45.40 | Genitrust | part of professional is being excited about good results :) |
| 12:45.45 | andry | serious babilen is serious |
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| 12:46.28 | babilen | Genitrust: yes, please elaborate but there is no reason to call me, or anyone for that matter, a "beitch" nor to throw anything "IN YO FACE" |
| 12:46.36 | andry | :D |
| 12:46.48 | eKyNoX | hmmm last one Nik05, using my xorg version will not cause problem with 13.12 driver ? |
| 12:46.54 | Nik05 | i have no idea |
| 12:46.57 | Nik05 | try it out :P |
| 12:46.58 | Genitrust | "IN YO FACE" and "beitch" was not referring to you. |
| 12:46.59 | eKyNoX | hmm |
| 12:47.08 | Genitrust | it was referring to the problem i faced. |
| 12:47.22 | eKyNoX | I'll try thanks :) |
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| 12:47.54 | babilen | Genitrust: Either way, please stay technical in here. But now: What is it that you have done that helped you to solve the problem? |
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| 12:48.08 | Genitrust | babilen, i'm considering now looking through all of the packages i installed (any that have to do with libc or qt), and uninstalling them completely.... then properly reinstalling them with the proper sources list. does this sound feasible? or like i'm wasting my time? |
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| 12:48.43 | wols_ | Genitrust: you are wasting your time. uninstalling libc and very very bad things will happen. just stop and reinstall |
| 12:48.58 | Genitrust | ( babilen, i removed the ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin source ... updated ... and this allowed me to move forward, but i ran into the same problem) |
| 12:49.08 | Genitrust | wols_, er wait, i dont believe i need to uninstall libc |
| 12:49.16 | Genitrust | ya nevermind i dont need to do that. just all the libqt stuff |
| 12:49.28 | babilen | Genitrust: You cannot uninstall a bunch of those packages (e.g. libc6) and downgrading them is, well, risky to say the least. I see two options: 1. Reinstall or 2. Upgrade to testing/unstable (with all the headaches associated with that). This also won't get rid of your PPA problem. |
| 12:49.35 | wols_ | Genitrust: you have a frankendebian. you are up a brown creek. no paddle |
| 12:49.37 | andry | watch out to not remove some packages that depend on these libs |
| 12:49.56 | andry | frankendebian :'D |
| 12:50.14 | babilen | Genitrust: My recommendation is still to reinstall that box. |
| 12:50.17 | Genitrust | babilen, oh darn, i see in my history "apt-get install linux-libc-dev" |
| 12:50.18 | babilen | dpkg: frankendebian |
| 12:50.18 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 12:50.51 | andry | never seen "frankendebian", but is actually funny and fits |
| 12:51.34 | Genitrust | babilen, ya you're right... i'm just going to give up now, and get back to this later. at least VP can use laptop ... although Armory will be out of the question until monday -.- |
| 12:51.46 | Genitrust | babilen, thank you for all of your support. i learned a *lot* today and i really appreciate everything! :) |
| 12:52.39 | babilen | yw |
| 12:53.20 | Genitrust | interesting... so when i reinstall tho... i have a separate /home partition now, so i dont have to worry about backing that up? :D |
| 12:53.22 | Genitrust | (even tho i will) |
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| 12:59.57 | abhvym | i am creating custome live cd from debian live cd tools . how do i make my livecd persistent ? |
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| 13:03.13 | Genitrust | reinstalling. |
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| 13:05.30 | Nik05 | abhvym if you found out how to make a custom live cd please tell me :) |
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| 13:05.45 | Genitrust | btw babilen , any idea why debian doesn't step up and be the first distribution to come with some form of bitcoin wallet software? ;D |
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| 13:06.02 | petern_ | Who cares about bitcoin? |
| 13:06.23 | Genitrust | petern_, at one point, nearly $12 billion cared about bitcoin |
| 13:06.30 | Genitrust | about $8 billion cares about bitcoin now. |
| 13:06.40 | Genitrust | and if you ask me... that's probably far higher than all linux distros combined. |
| 13:07.06 | petern_ | Money cares about something? odd. |
| 13:07.21 | Genitrust | well obviously i care about bitcoin |
| 13:07.24 | Genitrust | hence my question |
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| 13:07.52 | Nik05 | Genitrust package it for debian ;) |
| 13:07.54 | jelly | petern_: I have a quote from hitchhiker's guide that says it's not money itself that cared |
| 13:08.17 | Genitrust | what is there a problem or something? we could easily say, "who cares about POP3 protocol", and i can guarantee you debian does, regardless of the fact that probably no one cares about POP3 now |
| 13:08.22 | Genitrust | Nik05, :D |
| 13:09.10 | jelly | ,v bitcoin-qt |
| 13:09.11 | judd | Package: bitcoin-qt on i386 -- sid: 0.9.0-1 |
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| 13:09.50 | themill | (I think we went through this same conversation about 8 hours ago) |
| 13:09.59 | Nik05 | oh its already in sid... |
| 13:10.19 | jelly | Genitrust: the default client/wallet has been present in years, just that it's so buggy it never made it down to stable |
| 13:10.45 | Genitrust | that makes sense |
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| 13:16.32 | chrisgh | How do I force install package maintainers version of a config file? |
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| 13:16.51 | chrisgh | I want /etc/apache2/apache2.conf from package maintainer not my modified version |
| 13:17.11 | OpenTokix | chrisgh: do a apt-get --reinstall |
| 13:17.25 | chrisgh | Thanks OpenTokix for the fast answer :) |
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| 13:17.45 | OpenTokix | chrisgh: and you will get a question, iirc |
| 13:18.29 | eKyNoX | Still on 13.11 catalyst install, now at package fglrx-modules-dkms_13.11... and failed to install, returned : bad status for module build on kernel 3.13-1-amd64 |
| 13:18.37 | eKyNoX | still here babilen ? |
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| 13:20.48 | themill | dpkg: tell chrisgh about confmiss |
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| 13:24.20 | abhvym | Nik05, i am already making it. |
| 13:24.56 | eKyNoX | Nik05: dependencies are now packages included in past xorg version... |
| 13:25.19 | eKyNoX | fglrx-driver returned configure error that this packet are missing |
| 13:25.36 | eKyNoX | installed libfglrx 13.12 correctly anyway |
| 13:25.40 | Genitrust | eKyNoX, to be honest with you, i never got the older catalyst drivers working on never systems :) |
| 13:25.54 | Genitrust | NEVER got them working with older systems... and i poured literally nearly 20 hours into it |
| 13:25.57 | eKyNoX | 14.3 beta will not fit :) |
| 13:26.11 | eKyNoX | I'm passing days to this :) |
| 13:26.13 | Genitrust | (so i ended up using the old systems... ubuntu 12 LTS) |
| 13:26.40 | eKyNoX | Looks like solution is to remove xorg and install old version |
| 13:26.46 | eKyNoX | but not sure :) |
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| 13:27.05 | Genitrust | nah i doubt that |
| 13:27.46 | Genitrust | all the machines i did were headless, but of course you still need xorg |
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| 13:28.01 | Genitrust | i recall having a hard time getting to use an old X on the machine |
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| 13:34.46 | abhvym | i am getting dependency error http://paste.opensuse.org/54131705 i tread configure a apt get installl f nothing works |
| 13:34.48 | abhvym | on debian 7 |
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| 13:39.30 | nkuttler | abhvym: um... Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) etc |
| 13:39.37 | nkuttler | abhvym: chroot? mount that stuff |
| 13:39.41 | abhvym | ok |
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| 13:40.01 | abhvym | nkuttler, chroot /dev/pts chroot/pts |
| 13:40.04 | abhvym | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.13 | abhvym | nkuttler, mount /dev/pts chroot/pts |
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| 13:41.24 | abhvym | nkuttler, mount pts is not a block device |
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| 13:41.53 | nkuttler | abhvym: mount --bind to your chroot |
| 13:42.12 | nkuttler | abhvym: like 2. in http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1156240.html (first google result) |
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| 13:42.30 | abhvym | ok |
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| 13:42.40 | nkuttler | mounting /dev/pts over /dev seems reduntant though |
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| 13:44.30 | abhvym | ok |
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| 13:47.26 | viscera | can i do a purge and reinstall on a non-leaf package in a single operation, so that apt doesn't complain that i'm breaking other packages? |
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| 13:47.50 | viscera | e.g. fontconfig-config --- i want an easy way to ensure that all conffiles are reverted to debian defaults |
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| 13:49.28 | elichai2 | https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/bitcoin-qt |
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| 13:49.40 | elichai2 | is bitcoin-qt package aviable on wheezy too? |
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| 13:52.21 | ctmjr | nope |
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| 13:52.44 | elichai2 | can i manually install only this package from sid? |
| 13:53.17 | babilen | elichai2: *Never* mix releases. |
| 13:53.28 | elichai2 | ok... |
| 13:54.13 | themill | you need to ask its developers why it's unsuitable for inclusion in a stable release |
| 13:54.45 | elichai2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.02 | elichai2 | so i tried to manually unstall bitcoin-qt (not from that package, from tar.gz one) |
| 13:55.10 | elichai2 | and i got this error: ./bitcoin-qt: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by ./bitcoin-qt) |
| 13:55.12 | elichai2 | any idea? |
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| 13:55.34 | babilen | It also doesn't appear to be easily backportable, you might have luck compiling it from source and to manage that with stow (cf. "/msg dpkg stow usage"), but then it might depen on a newer QT4 version that isn't in wheezy. |
| 13:55.45 | themill | don't try running things that weren't designed for your release? |
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| 13:56.08 | babilen | elichai2: Yes, it is obviously not meant to be used on Debian wheezy, but on a different release or even distribution (e.g. Ubuntu) |
| 13:56.19 | themill | (also, do you really trust your money to random binaries you've downloaded?) |
| 13:56.34 | elichai2 | nooooo |
| 13:56.43 | viscera | how can i restore my /etc/fonts/* to how debian initially made it? |
| 13:56.45 | themill | if so, I can offer you some very fun downloads ... |
| 13:56.45 | elichai2 | i didn't downloaded the sid package |
| 13:56.58 | elichai2 | i downloaded official tar.gz for any linux distro |
| 13:57.03 | viscera | reinstalling fontconfig/freetype doesn't seem to help |
| 13:57.14 | themill | dpkg: tell viscera about confmiss |
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| 13:57.39 | SynrG | elichai2: distrust any 3rd party software that provides binaries that claim to run on 'any' linux distro |
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| 13:58.24 | jelly | any linux, as long as it's by canonical and newer than 2012 |
| 13:58.42 | SynrG | ,v bitcoin-qt |
| 13:58.42 | judd | Package: bitcoin-qt on i386 -- sid: 0.9.0-1 |
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| 13:59.06 | elichai2 | SynrG: https://bitcoin.org/en/download |
| 13:59.32 | SynrG | elichai2: and what i'm telling you is, if you're on stable, bitcoin-qt is not supported. period. |
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| 13:59.51 | SynrG | there's no backport. it has not migrated to testing, so it can't even be officially backported. |
| 13:59.54 | SynrG | you're SOL |
| 14:00.03 | elichai2 | SynrG: you saying these from knowing what bitcoin-qt is? |
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| 14:00.10 | jelly | ,bug rc bitcoin-qt |
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| 14:00.11 | judd | Release critical bugs in package bitcoin-qt (1): #718272 (forwarded) |
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| 14:00.16 | SynrG | i'm saying this seeing your errors above. |
| 14:00.29 | SynrG | the binary provided from bitcoin.org is not compatible with wheezy. |
| 14:00.30 | viscera | themill: thanks |
| 14:00.49 | SynrG | i.e. their claim of supporting "any" linux distro is false. |
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| 14:01.27 | elichai2 | SynrG: that's just really weird |
| 14:01.32 | elichai2 | maybe i will try install ppa? |
| 14:01.38 | elichai2 | (they have ppa version too) |
| 14:01.42 | SynrG | no. no. absoutely no. |
| 14:01.53 | themill | elichai2: which bit of "don't install things not designed for your release" is unclear? |
| 14:01.58 | SynrG | !mixing |
| 14:01.58 | dpkg | Mixing distributions is a bad idea. Running Ubuntu packages on Debian systems (or vice-versa) causes problems with package naming and versioning. Don't expect anybody to help you with your system if you do this. |
| 14:02.16 | elichai2 | idk i just need this and i'm pretty sure it can be done on debian wheezy |
| 14:02.24 | SynrG | elichai2: you won't just jeopardize using that software, but also breaking *unrelated* software |
| 14:02.39 | SynrG | elichai2: so kiss your support here goodbye if you start doing shit like that |
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| 14:03.07 | elichai2 | ok.... i won't do it |
| 14:03.14 | elichai2 | i will try compile the source code |
| 14:03.19 | jelly | elichai2: build from source, or read http://bugs.debian.org/718272 |
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| 14:03.46 | SynrG | elichai2: read https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718272 |
| 14:03.59 | SynrG | elichai2: until *that* is solved, i cannot recommend you use it on *any* debian release. |
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| 14:04.28 | SynrG | "Because of the sensitivity of this situation (lots of money can be lost), I |
| 14:04.28 | SynrG | believe we should block migration to testing until either upstream supports |
| 14:04.28 | SynrG | stable releases or we have a volunteer that works closely enough with upstream |
| 14:04.28 | SynrG | code (an upstream developer) that is will to backport security and network- |
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| 14:04.41 | themill | !pal SynrG |
| 14:04.41 | dpkg | points at SynrG and laughs |
| 14:04.47 | SynrG | awww, crap. i thought that was *one* line |
| 14:04.53 | petern_ | :D |
| 14:04.57 | SynrG | curse you cut-and-paste! |
| 14:05.16 | SynrG | it's a paragraph ... *except* when you pull it from an archive with hard linebreaks in it |
| 14:05.34 | SynrG | sigh |
| 14:06.15 | SynrG | elichai2: the point being, it's really hopelessly broken. we can't provide security for it ... |
| 14:06.27 | jelly | debian bts only goes for HARD linebreaks |
| 14:06.32 | SynrG | elichai2: it's not something we can recommend until upstream sorts out things at *their* end so we can support a proper release |
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| 14:06.51 | SynrG | elichai2: and "losing all your money" is a pretty good reason not to run this software without security support from debian |
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| 14:07.33 | jelly | I don't see why that thing couldn't be put into -sloppy once upstream tells which tree to actually use |
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| 14:11.52 | SynrG | jelly: sure. but this has been this way since July??? |
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| 14:12.54 | jelly | I think I installed it in... 2012? |
| 14:13.17 | SynrG | and no new progress on the issue since December. boo :( |
| 14:13.48 | jelly | nope, 2013-05-11 18:38:23 install bitcoin-qt:i386 <none> 0.8.1-2 |
| 14:13.51 | sadon | hi |
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| 14:14.32 | eKyNoX | Hello again, got broken dpkg, glx-diversions sho error |
| 14:14.37 | eKyNoX | show* |
| 14:15.03 | SynrG | !bat |
| 14:15.03 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 14:15.48 | SynrG | eKyNoX: at the very least, the command you used and its output, please |
| 14:16.01 | eKyNoX | I'm in console mode |
| 14:16.04 | eKyNoX | so hard to paste |
| 14:16.06 | SynrG | !nopaste |
| 14:16.06 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
| 14:16.07 | eKyNoX | but I can write |
| 14:16.14 | SynrG | no. use nopaste, then. |
| 14:16.17 | eKyNoX | kk |
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| 14:16.50 | eKyNoX | can't install ir |
| 14:16.52 | eKyNoX | can't install i |
| 14:16.54 | eKyNoX | can't install it |
| 14:16.56 | eKyNoX | damn :) |
| 14:17.04 | eKyNoX | because dpkg broken |
| 14:17.04 | jelly | eKyNoX: do you have curl installed? |
| 14:17.17 | eKyNoX | sure |
| 14:17.30 | jelly | eKyNoX: <command> | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
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| 14:18.33 | jelly | use "script" to record a shell session with all the commands, exit it and pastebin the log ("typescript" by default) this way |
| 14:18.44 | sadon | hi |
| 14:18.53 | sadon | how do i forward udp 3304 send it onto 10.8.0.29 |
| 14:19.07 | SynrG | sadon: are you using a debian system as a router? |
| 14:19.14 | sadon | SynrG: yes |
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| 14:19.15 | sadon | should i use > iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p udp --dport 3304 -j DNAT --to 10.8.0.29 |
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| 14:20.20 | SynrG | looks right to me ... |
| 14:20.34 | eKyNoX | jelly: could not resolve host : sprunge=<- |
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| 14:20.42 | eKyNoX | and some formated text after |
| 14:20.51 | sadon | how do i restart my vps? |
| 14:21.03 | sadon | reboot |
| 14:21.05 | sadon | simple |
| 14:21.06 | sadon | :) |
| 14:21.24 | SynrG | eKyNoX: you made a typo there somewhere. works perfectly well for me. |
| 14:21.43 | babilen | .oO( should I ask him to paste it? ) |
| 14:21.55 | SynrG | evil |
| 14:22.00 | sadon | SynrG: what does -D do? |
| 14:22.02 | sadon | instead of -A? |
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| 14:22.31 | SynrG | sadon: delete |
| 14:22.49 | SynrG | sadon: see the iptables man page? :) |
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| 14:23.33 | sadon | SynrG: how do i locatate the 10.8.0.** for one of my users? |
| 14:23.37 | sadon | ip |
| 14:24.09 | eKyNoX | jelly: http://sprunge.us/VFeb |
| 14:24.28 | SynrG | sadon: check your DHCP server's logs |
| 14:24.33 | sadon | SynrG: how? |
| 14:24.51 | SynrG | ... |
| 14:26.16 | SynrG | !tell eKyNoX about localised errors |
| 14:26.30 | sadon | is there no simple way |
| 14:26.38 | sadon | to check local ip for one of my users? |
| 14:26.50 | SynrG | are you on the user's system? |
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| 14:27.06 | SynrG | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 14:27.36 | SynrG | look for 'inet addr:' for the interface that is connected to the network |
| 14:28.11 | SynrG | for "some other" operating system: ipconfig |
| 14:28.12 | SynrG | :) |
| 14:28.19 | jaybe | hi. package recommendation for webdav implementation? |
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| 14:31.01 | eKyNoX | SynrG: http://sprunge.us/aVMU |
| 14:32.31 | SynrG | eKyNoX: it looks like you have previously run a removal script that already removed these, and now the script is running the removals again without being properly error trapped |
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| 14:32.49 | sadon | SynrG lol i cant find it there |
| 14:32.51 | SynrG | you might be able to solve this by editing the script |
| 14:33.12 | sadon | you joke with me? |
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| 14:33.24 | eKyNoX | SynrG: did not used any script, just used apt-get autoremove for glx packets |
| 14:33.46 | eKyNoX | and glx-diversions was included in these packets to remove and returned dpkg error |
| 14:33.53 | SynrG | eKyNoX: i mean /var/lib/dpkg/info/glx-diversions.postrm |
| 14:33.58 | SynrG | that is the postrm script |
| 14:34.10 | SynrG | eKyNoX: so it's crapping out trying to remove already removed diversions |
| 14:34.54 | SynrG | sadon: i'm not dealing with your issue right now, but am dealing with eKyNoX. please wait |
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| 14:35.04 | eKyNoX | SynrG: so editing that script, I have to search the line that it try to remove packet already removed |
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| 14:35.20 | SynrG | eKyNoX: or simply edit that script and right after the first line, put 'exit 0' |
| 14:35.27 | SynrG | eKyNoX: so it skips the whole post-removal |
| 14:35.46 | SynrG | eKyNoX: however, that may leave things a bit messy |
| 14:36.07 | SynrG | eKyNoX: ls -l /usr/lib/mesa-diverted |
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| 14:36.12 | SynrG | let's see what that contains |
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| 14:37.12 | eKyNoX | SynrG: : http://sprunge.us/KRQV |
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| 14:37.28 | SynrG | eKyNoX: actually, ls -lR /usr/lib/mesa-diverted , please |
| 14:37.56 | eKyNoX | SynrG: : http://sprunge.us/IgIS |
| 14:38.34 | jelly | sadon: what service does the user connect to? Does the service have logs so you can check where the user connects from? |
| 14:38.59 | SynrG | eKyNoX: and dpkg-divert --list '/usr/lib/libGL*' |
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| 14:41.04 | eKyNoX | SynrG: http://sprunge.us/fYZP |
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| 14:41.39 | SynrG | hmmm |
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| 14:42.40 | SynrG | eKyNoX: so the only one it *thinks* it has and needs to remove is: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2.0 ... all the others are there |
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| 14:43.02 | SynrG | eKyNoX: i'm trying to think how to convince it otherwise, rather than hacking the script and leave a mess :) one moment. |
| 14:43.06 | xreal | Anything is wrong here... how could this happen? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64-dbg |
| 14:43.19 | eKyNoX | SynrG: I understand :) |
| 14:43.29 | eKyNoX | SynrG: I'm learning a lot new things currently :) |
| 14:43.39 | eKyNoX | and new commands ^ |
| 14:44.25 | SynrG | eKyNoX: there is one line that deals specifically with 1.2.0 in that script. you could comment it out |
| 14:44.38 | eKyNoX | after this problem resolved, I will be back to try install old catalyst drivers on my sid, and repair my (broken) cinnamon |
| 14:44.40 | SynrG | eKyNoX: my question for you is, have you any idea what led up to this? |
| 14:45.00 | SynrG | like, did you abort an install? |
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| 14:46.39 | eKyNoX | SynrG: Like I said, I was just autoremoving fglrx stuff with --purge option, to try after to install 13.12 catalyst drivers, or from sources.list wheezy backport, or from snapshots, but never went to this point and got this error before |
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| 14:47.48 | eKyNoX | SynrG: I never aborted an install (i think ...) :p |
| 14:48.10 | eKyNoX | SynrG: It was while the process of uninstalling the required packets |
| 14:48.17 | SynrG | and yet only 3 of the expected diversions exist |
| 14:48.53 | SynrG | autoremoving *debian* fglrx stuff, or did you install some non-debian stuff? |
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| 14:49.17 | eKyNoX | SynrG: it's debian stuff, non-free for some |
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| 14:50.53 | SynrG | eKyNoX: typo in one command i asked for. please show: dpkg-divert --list '/usr/lib/*libGL*' |
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| 14:51.25 | SynrG | i want to see what the consequences of skipping the 1.2.0 diversion would be |
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| 14:51.39 | SynrG | but need to see all the triplet subdirs for that |
| 14:51.55 | eKyNoX | SynrG: http://sprunge.us/DROM |
| 14:54.02 | SynrG | guh. would you mind piping that to sort? |
| 14:54.11 | SynrG | eKyNoX: dpkg-divert --list '/usr/lib/*libGL*' | sort |
| 14:54.51 | eKyNoX | SynrG: http://sprunge.us/XNbU |
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| 14:55.28 | SynrG | it's just curious that only the top level /usr/lib and the one triplet for i386 have 1.2.0 missing |
| 14:56.09 | SynrG | also, your earlier ls output *only* has this for i386: |
| 14:56.11 | SynrG | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 Mar 28 12:59 libGL.so.1.2 -> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/fglrx/fglrx-libGL.so.1.2 |
| 14:56.16 | sadon | hello all brothers |
| 14:56.25 | sadon | how do i find the ip address for my user? |
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| 14:56.44 | sadon | i dont know what number it has |
| 14:56.53 | sadon | 10.8.0.** |
| 14:57.06 | eKyNoX | SynrG: The errors occur before, but if that make sense, I added in my sid sources.list a wheezy deb line |
| 14:57.28 | eKyNoX | to install old fglrx driver with apt-get -t wheezy option |
| 14:57.33 | ctmjr | and there it is |
| 14:58.17 | SynrG | eKyNoX: ah, libgl1-fglrx-glx only has that. whereas libglx-mesa-glx has all 3 |
| 14:59.14 | eKyNoX | SynrG: I don't get it :) |
| 14:59.27 | SynrG | i don't think i'm actually much closer to understanding, either |
| 14:59.30 | eKyNoX | Oh ... yes, about the three that appears not everywhere |
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| 14:59.53 | SynrG | just noticing some differences, though, in which files are provided by which -glx packages. |
| 15:00.12 | eKyNoX | yup, I understood |
| 15:00.55 | SynrG | also, did this system previously have nvidia in it? |
| 15:01.15 | eKyNoX | no |
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| 15:01.26 | eKyNoX | hmmm, tried to put the exit 0 |
| 15:01.29 | eKyNoX | in the script |
| 15:01.39 | eKyNoX | and replaced it after a apt-get autoremove |
| 15:01.46 | eKyNoX | removed it* |
| 15:01.53 | eKyNoX | just working now |
| 15:01.55 | SynrG | the problem with that is that it's going to leave all the diversions in place. the ones from your paste |
| 15:02.01 | SynrG | and will leave the directories full of stuff |
| 15:02.08 | eKyNoX | Ok |
| 15:02.18 | SynrG | so this is not a good situation |
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| 15:02.24 | jelly | sadon: what service does the user connect to? Does the service have logs so you can check where the user connects from? Which debian release are you using? |
| 15:02.26 | eKyNoX | hmmm |
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| 15:02.32 | SynrG | and i was trying to sort out the 'least intrusive' way to recover from that |
| 15:03.09 | ctmjr | maybe because your running sid and tried to install shit from wheezy |
| 15:03.20 | SynrG | possibly |
| 15:03.25 | eKyNoX | ok |
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| 15:03.56 | SynrG | so it's running a "too new" postrm to remove diversions (that didn't exist) for the old stuff |
| 15:04.23 | eKyNoX | Yes |
| 15:04.35 | eKyNoX | I start to be quite lost lol :) |
| 15:05.01 | SynrG | did the removal finish successfully with that hack? |
| 15:05.20 | SynrG | if it did, then you have all the diversions listed in your paste to manually remove |
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| 15:05.51 | eKyNoX | SynrG: it don't show any new errors |
| 15:05.58 | eKyNoX | SynrG: dpkg seems to work again |
| 15:06.17 | eKyNoX | SynrG: and like you said, some folders may not be empty |
| 15:06.23 | sadon | sudo su - username |
| 15:06.26 | sadon | what does this command do? |
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| 15:07.29 | eKyNoX | anyway, still have to install previous catalyst driver, can get more of your time ? |
| 15:07.33 | eKyNoX | SynrG |
| 15:09.04 | SynrG | eKyNoX: this is an example *single* removal: |
| 15:09.06 | SynrG | dpkg-divert --remove --rename --package glx-diversions --divert /usr/lib/mesa-diverted/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2 |
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| 15:09.38 | SynrG | eKyNoX: iterate over all the diversions left over by this mess, removing them in similar fashion ... |
| 15:09.48 | eKyNoX | Ok SynrG, have to do this for any line in my last sorted paste ? |
| 15:09.51 | SynrG | eKyNoX: when done, the directory listing should be clean |
| 15:10.00 | voxadam | I'm attempting to run rtorrent as a daemon using instructions from the rtorrent site. One of the things required is a writable session director /var/run/rtorrent. I can creat the directory, change the ownership so that rtorrent which is being run as a regular user can write to it, and the service starts as expected. The problem is whenever I reboot the directory is lost. How do I create a |
| 15:10.00 | voxadam | permanent directory in /var/run? |
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| 15:10.05 | SynrG | eKyNoX: yes. |
| 15:10.08 | eKyNoX | Ok :p |
| 15:10.15 | eKyNoX | SynrG: doing this |
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| 15:11.01 | SynrG | eKyNoX: a more 'clever' solution might've been to simply not bomb out the script (i.e. remove "set -e") on an error. hindsight is 20/20 :p |
| 15:11.22 | wols_ | voxadam: you can't. "ls -l /var" and "mount" will tell you why. you can create the directory in your daemon start script |
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| 15:12.26 | TomyWork | I want to create an equivs package that depends on grep:amd64 and provides grep:i386. |
| 15:12.47 | TomyWork | among others |
| 15:13.24 | TomyWork | http://pastebin.com/BNKy8pyk my equivs control file |
| 15:13.40 | voxadam | wols_: Thanks. So I need to create the directory in my /etc/init.d/rtorrent script? |
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| 15:14.58 | TomyWork | http://pastebin.com/N6tfYTHS the resulting package in aptitude |
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| 15:15.55 | eKyNoX | SynrG: got error mismatch with the command |
| 15:16.27 | eKyNoX | SynrG: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1.2 no more exists |
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| 15:20.50 | eKyNoX | SynrG gets in bad mood now because of me :-P |
| 15:20.53 | badhatter | anyoen knnow why checkinstall throws me errors when creating directories? |
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| 15:23.43 | jhutchins | badhatter: The existance of an error, in and of itself, is useless information without the details of WHAT the erorr was, and when and how it happened. |
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| 15:25.09 | jhutchins | badhatter: Give the complete absence of any useful information here, we can guess that you are using this because you are installing a package that is not properly prepared for Debian, and is not entirely compatible. |
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| 15:25.16 | eKyNoX | SynrG: stil here ? |
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| 15:27.29 | badhatter | im pastebinning one second |
| 15:27.55 | badhatter | sorry for being vague |
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| 15:33.32 | somiaj | In the process of cleaing up my install, anyways tryign to find a way to calculate the size of all installed programs (to compare to actually space used on disk) |
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| 15:35.50 | abrotman | dpkg: tell somiaj about sort by size |
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| 15:37.23 | somiaj | ahh nice, I found a script that does that, guess it is time to add the numbers together. (: |
| 15:38.01 | somiaj | looks like wajig might be useful too |
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| 15:58.34 | chomwitt | trying to install netinst.iso of wheezy on an old hp laptop of mine i see that boot freeze during network setup phase and in virtual console i see that it stucks trying to read a floppy to find a wilerell broadcom driver. Can i fix this? |
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| 16:03.39 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 16:03.40 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 16:03.51 | jhutchins | !installer firmware |
| 16:03.51 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 16:04.04 | babilen | dpkg: firmware image |
| 16:04.04 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 16:04.47 | jhutchins | chomwitt: It's always best to do a netinstall over wired if possible, but those should get you going. |
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| 16:07.09 | chomwitt | jhutchins:i have ethernet connection to my laptop |
| 16:07.29 | chomwitt | jhutchins: but it stack trying to enable the wireless i think |
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| 16:16.35 | philipp_ | hi, i am having a rutorrent related problem wich i think is discussed here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=931635 . can anyone guide me a little through the process of compiling c-ares on debian? |
| 16:18.32 | wols_ | philipp_: depends in what form this c-ares comes |
| 16:18.53 | wols_ | philipp_: what actuall error do you have? or put it another way: what have you actually tried so far? |
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| 16:19.47 | philipp_ | wols_: thats my first (and probably the biggest) problem. i followed http://www.torrent-invites.com/showthread.php?t=195434 to set up the system btw... dont know if its relevant |
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| 16:20.32 | philipp_ | wols_: can i get the source from apt-get somehow (sry im not using debian that much) |
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| 16:20.48 | xreal | Anything is wrong here... how could this happen? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64-dbg |
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| 16:22.25 | philipp_ | wols_: would http://curl.haxx.se/download.html work? |
| 16:22.43 | wols_ | work for what? |
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| 16:23.44 | wols_ | philipp_: please tell us your actual, original problem? ie. what do you want to achieve and what was the first problem that prevented it? |
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| 16:24.27 | philipp_ | wols_: yea sorry... i guess i started in the middle of the problem chain :D |
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| 16:24.45 | wols_ | no. you didn't ever state your problem and wrote lots of useless gibberish |
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| 16:25.18 | philipp_ | wols_: i follwed http://www.torrent-invites.com/showthread.php?t=195434 to make a raspberry pi that downloads (of corse legal) torrents. Whenever the torrent list gets too long or i add a tracker the entire thing lags |
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| 16:25.37 | xreal | SynrG: Anyidea? |
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| 16:26.02 | wols_ | xreal: what is supposedly wrong on this page? debug files are neever small |
| 16:26.12 | wols_ | and why do you need debug files? |
| 16:26.33 | Juzzy | the pi sucks. |
| 16:26.36 | xreal | wols_: Check version in the title and version of the package :) |
| 16:26.39 | Juzzy | cubietruck is 10x better |
| 16:26.55 | philipp_ | wols_: so i figured its proably the same problem this folk has: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=931635 , he is suggesting to recompile cURL with --enable-ares . Unfortunatly im a gentoo user and not that smooth on debian related systems. |
| 16:27.00 | philipp_ | wols_: can you follow me? |
| 16:27.10 | xreal | wols_: linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64-dbg (3.12.9-1~bpo70+1) => [linux_3.13.5-1~bpo70+1.debian.tar.xz] |
| 16:27.21 | Juzzy | we pitched all of our pis, they are just too underpowered and too little ram |
| 16:28.25 | wols_ | xreal: I only see 3.12 there. and if I try to download, I get a 3.12 .deb |
| 16:28.42 | philipp_ | wols_: i think i figured it out anyway... i tell you when i run in trouble |
| 16:28.44 | wols_ | philipp_: I can follow you but I won't follow you much longer unless you ask a debian related support question |
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| 16:29.19 | xreal | wols_: source package is wrong |
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| 16:38.18 | Brody | hi Ive been advised this channel is ok for this question; I have just installed wordpress and it was working on localhost correctly. I wanted to enable mod_rewrite to get pretty permalinks working. I followed this guide; http://xmodulo.com/2013/01/how-to-enable-mod_rewrite-in-apache2-on-debian-ubuntu.html |
| 16:38.35 | Brody | Afterwards, localhost/wp is Not FOund |
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| 16:41.52 | xreal | wols_: the source package is wrong |
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| 16:48.23 | cast | neat @ debsecan is a tool to generate a list of vulnerabilities which affect a particular Debian installation |
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| 16:54.03 | Genitrust | does anyone here have bitcoin-qt running on debian 7.4 ? |
| 16:54.25 | Genitrust | i really want to get bitcoin-qt working without using the Ubuntu PPA |
| 16:54.28 | Genitrust | @.@ |
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| 16:56.54 | cast | Genitrust: ssb didn't work? |
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| 16:58.58 | voxadam | I am attempting to get nginx up and running on sid but when I install it using apt-get I don't end up with a /etc/nginx/* |
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| 16:59.57 | Genitrust | cast what is SSB? |
| 17:00.03 | Big-Blue | try installing nginx-light or nginx-full voxadam |
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| 17:00.39 | cast | Genitrust: what you were told about ~12 hours ago |
| 17:00.53 | Genitrust | i mean, what does it stand for? |
| 17:01.00 | cast | simple sid backport |
| 17:01.02 | Genitrust | lol ~12 hours ago... that sounds about right... |
| 17:01.10 | Genitrust | ooooh. hmm. |
| 17:01.14 | Genitrust | was sid the previous version of debian? |
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| 17:01.28 | Big-Blue | sid is the current unstable version |
| 17:01.31 | Genitrust | found some possible solutions to get bitcoin compiled.... |
| 17:01.37 | Genitrust | oooh sid is the next one eh? ;x |
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| 17:02.19 | cast | you didn't listen 12 hours ago did you :( |
| 17:02.23 | voxadam | Big-Blue: Thanks. You made me realize what I did to screw things up. |
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| 17:02.54 | Genitrust | cast i totally did, but you gotta understand... a lot of stuff has happened in the last 12 hours -.- |
| 17:03.12 | cast | i can imagine. |
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| 17:03.28 | xreal | wols_: the source package is wrong |
| 17:03.33 | Genitrust | i can only remember about 33% of intellectual things of the last 12 hours, sorta like most other human beings |
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| 17:03.44 | Genitrust | OMG |
| 17:04.00 | Genitrust | i got past ./configure for bitcoin 0.9.0 on Debian 7.4 ... i think i need to write an article about this or something |
| 17:04.01 | Genitrust | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.04 | Genitrust | are pasties forever?? |
| 17:05.45 | xreal | diamonds are forever |
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| 17:19.20 | MalcolmX | hi, i'm on testing, and gnome 3 have a huge probleme, this morning I make an update of my systeme, and after a reboot, i didn't retreive gnome |
| 17:19.47 | MalcolmX | the apt-get dist-upgrade has remove my gdm3 , gnome-core, and gnome-shell |
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| 17:20.08 | musca | yes. |
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| 17:20.17 | MalcolmX | and I can't reinstall, anyone have this proble |
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| 17:21.32 | wonderworld | hi, how would i check if fetchmail really uses ssl to pick up mail from a remote pop server? smtp connections show up as "TLS" or "SSL" in the mails headers. my fetchmail doesn't add information about encryption in the mails headers. is that normal behaviour or would i see the encrypted connection in the headers? |
| 17:21.39 | musca | MalcolmX: yes, i see this since 48 hours in unstable |
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| 17:21.52 | Synthead | is there a way I can tell when a package was added to a repo? |
| 17:21.52 | babilen | MalcolmX: First and foremost: you want #debian-next, second: paste your command and output to http://paste.debian.net, thirdly: don't remove packages you want to keep |
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| 17:22.24 | babilen | Synthead: Check its changelog in /usr/share/doc/*/changelog* |
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| 17:23.29 | babilen | MalcolmX: Oh, the #debian-next channel is on irc.oftc.net (cf. /topic) |
| 17:23.50 | Synthead | babilen: is there a way to do that without installing it? |
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| 17:24.09 | babilen | Synthead: http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html |
| 17:24.26 | Synthead | babilen: on a private repo |
| 17:24.37 | cast | wonderworld: could dump the traffic and see what it looks like [like with ngrep] |
| 17:24.39 | babilen | Synthead: What do you mean by "private repo" ? |
| 17:24.46 | MalcolmX | babilen: i didn't remove packages i want to keep, apt does |
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| 17:25.03 | Synthead | babilen: one that isn't available to the public without a website |
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| 17:25.05 | babilen | MalcolmX: Well, you did. Apt is simply doing what you tell it to do (or what you approved) |
| 17:25.19 | babilen | Synthead: All Debian repositories are available publicly |
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| 17:25.40 | Synthead | babilen: not private ones :p |
| 17:25.43 | musca | MalcolmX: apt does ask for confirmation |
| 17:25.55 | babilen | Synthead: I don't follow, which package are you referring to? |
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| 17:26.17 | Synthead | babilen: if you created a repo on a server on your LAN for the machines on your LAN, will I be able to access it? |
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| 17:26.43 | babilen | Synthead: That wouldn't be a Debian repository and you cannot tell when the package was added first. |
| 17:27.07 | babilen | Synthead: But please, be more specific. What are you really trying to do? |
| 17:27.11 | Synthead | babilen: yes it would: https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
| 17:27.31 | babilen | Synthead: Okay, so you can find information about all those packages in the PTS. |
| 17:27.31 | Synthead | babilen: I'm trying to find when a package was added to a repository on the client-side |
| 17:27.38 | babilen | Synthead: Whatfor? |
| 17:28.01 | jelly | wonderworld: fetchmail is just a MUA basically, it doesn't have to add Received |
| 17:28.19 | Synthead | babilen: a package in a private repo. why does it matter? |
| 17:28.33 | Synthead | babilen: x11-apps |
| 17:28.37 | jelly | if it did add'em, I'd be convenience |
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| 17:29.36 | babilen | Synthead: Well, I am not aware of an easily scriptable way to do that (doesn't mean that it doesn't exist), but you could download the package, unpack it grep in the changelog and take it from there. |
| 17:29.43 | cypherman | hi people |
| 17:29.48 | babilen | Synthead: But then I don't even know if you want to script it. |
| 17:29.49 | cypherman | i need help with something |
| 17:30.18 | cypherman | i have 2 apache servers and the web traffic is directed to one, say server A |
| 17:30.29 | cypherman | then i have installed the mail server in server B |
| 17:30.51 | cypherman | and i can redirect port 8080 to an internal port 80 for that server B |
| 17:31.25 | cypherman | but i would like to define a virtual host in apache A for redirect to webmail in server B |
| 17:31.28 | cypherman | is that possible? |
| 17:31.33 | babilen | Synthead: But to answer your question: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-xorg/app/x11-apps.git;a=blob;f=debian/changelog;h=c754e1435842b43f0adc7cef95040fbae6ec0442;hb=HEAD -- first upload: -- David Nusinow <dnusinow@debian.org> Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:46:46 -0500 |
| 17:32.10 | wonderworld | jelly: it actually adds to the mail headers, but doesnt tell about encrtyption. |
| 17:32.28 | wonderworld | cast: thanks, i verfied the encrypted connection with ngrep. seems to work fine |
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| 17:33.14 | petn-randall | cypherman: a simple redirect should do, like in http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect |
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| 17:33.59 | babilen | Synthead: Do you need this scripted? Or is "Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:46:46 -0500" the answer you wanted and we are done now and you are happy? |
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| 17:34.41 | Genitrust | after installing openssh-server, how do i start the process? |
| 17:34.50 | cypherman | petn-randall: i'm new to apache, but i managed to make the redirection of port 8080 to the B server's 80 port, but i want to get rid of the 8080 and simply use the port 80 and apache being the one that redirects to the other apache server B for the webmail |
| 17:34.55 | cypherman | i'll take a look at it |
| 17:34.57 | babilen | Genitrust: Should run already, but "service ssh start" |
| 17:35.19 | Genitrust | "service package not installed" -.- |
| 17:35.34 | Genitrust | babilen, btw, i'm doing good with this install. got bitcoin to actually install @.@ was rough |
| 17:35.36 | babilen | Genitrust: What? |
| 17:35.43 | petn-randall | cypherman: You probably want to use the Redirect directive I linked you to. |
| 17:35.52 | Genitrust | babilen, whoops, forgot sudo |
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| 17:36.35 | babilen | Genitrust: That shouldn't result in the error message "service package not installed" but in "command not found" |
| 17:36.46 | Genitrust | yup, i knew you'd know what i meant ;) |
| 17:37.20 | cypherman | petn-randall: what file should i edit? |
| 17:37.21 | babilen | Genitrust: You *have* to be precise. Assumptions are *bad* and exact error messages, questions and commands are important |
| 17:37.27 | cypherman | i'm kinda lost here |
| 17:37.57 | petn-randall | cypherman: The file where your vhost of server A is defined. |
| 17:38.10 | Genitrust | babilen, ah true... the way of the sys admin *must* be precise... |
| 17:39.12 | cypherman | petn-randall: ok, thanks |
| 17:40.32 | babilen | Synthead: ping? |
| 17:41.13 | Synthead | babilen: no, this still relies on the package having a git repositiry |
| 17:41.29 | babilen | Synthead: x11-apps does have a git repository |
| 17:41.40 | jhutchins | babilen: The "package not installed" is a pretty good indication that Genitrust is running Ubuntu, which he is. |
| 17:41.42 | babilen | Synthead: So you are not only looking for this information for x11-apps? |
| 17:41.44 | cypherman | petn-randall: i add the line of redirect but apache fails to reload |
| 17:42.00 | babilen | Genitrust: Are you running Ubuntu? |
| 17:42.07 | Synthead | babilen: for any private package. No websites, no publicly-accessible information, just the repository |
| 17:42.07 | Genitrust | nope |
| 17:42.20 | jhutchins | Genitrust: Your xchat begs to differ. |
| 17:42.36 | babilen | Synthead: Take a look at who-uploads (devscripts) and adapt it to your needs. If I can think of a better way I'll let you know. |
| 17:42.38 | Genitrust | jhutchins, i'm not legally accountable for anything i put in here, i could be lying ;) |
| 17:42.48 | jhutchins | Genitrust: reply from Genitrust: xchat 2.8.8 Ubuntu |
| 17:43.01 | Genitrust | jhutchins, oh why yes ... this box is ubuntu |
| 17:43.06 | Genitrust | so you are correct |
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| 17:43.18 | Genitrust | but generally, i am running debian 7.4 |
| 17:43.19 | babilen | Genitrust: Please seek Ubuntu support in #ubuntu |
| 17:43.31 | Genitrust | babilen, um, no thanks, i dont need ubuntu support |
| 17:43.44 | Genitrust | ....else i would be in #ubuntu |
| 17:43.52 | Genitrust | but i don't need any help at the moment. carry on :D |
| 17:43.53 | jhutchins | "package not installed" is an ubuntu error message. |
| 17:43.55 | babilen | Genitrust: Well, you obviously do as you are working on an Ubuntu system right now. |
| 17:44.12 | Genitrust | i wouldn't say i'm "working" on an ubuntu system right now. |
| 17:44.29 | babilen | Genitrust: Did you run the "service ssh start" on an Ubuntu system or not? |
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| 17:44.30 | Genitrust | i'm working on a debian system, and the ubuntu desktop is the one connected to the internetz |
| 17:44.34 | petn-randall | cypherman: What's the error message you get? 'apache2ctl -t' will provide a more detailed description of the problem if you don't have it yet. |
| 17:44.38 | Genitrust | babilen, nope |
| 17:44.59 | babilen | Genitrust: Please paste that command, its output and that of "uname -a" please |
| 17:45.08 | Genitrust | babilen, no that's ok, i'm fine. |
| 17:45.14 | jhutchins | Genitrust: Just be aware that there are procedures to fix Debian systems that will break Ubuntu systems. |
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| 17:45.29 | Genitrust | babilen, my problem was i forgot to do "sudo" |
| 17:45.53 | carrera | that was easy! |
| 17:45.53 | babilen | Genitrust: So, show me the output please |
| 17:45.55 | jhutchins | Genitrust: ... which is also something that happens on Ubuntu, not on Debian. |
| 17:46.10 | Genitrust | ya know, kind of like how debian will say "command not found" when you don't do "sudo" before ifconfig |
| 17:46.22 | Genitrust | lol you guys are funny |
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| 17:46.54 | SynrG | jhutchins: uh? |
| 17:46.55 | Genitrust | babilen, because you've been so kind, so helpful, and polite... here's the output of uname -a on the debian machine that i am working on: |
| 17:47.17 | Genitrust | Linux ops-laptop 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 17:47.25 | Genitrust | babilen, remember? you were helping me on this debian machine all night |
| 17:47.28 | babilen | Genitrust: Paste the requested output in its entirety to http://paste.debian.net and share the link. |
| 17:47.29 | SynrG | /sbin/ifconfig works fine for me :) |
| 17:47.39 | Genitrust | babilen, no. |
| 17:47.46 | Genitrust | your request will not be fulfilled. |
| 17:47.49 | jhutchins | I don't think there's much point in arguing about it. Let's just move on. |
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| 17:48.02 | cypherman | petn-randall: now it is ok, but i get the error 404 not found when i hit the server address /webmail |
| 17:48.43 | babilen | Genitrust: We only support Debian in here. Please take #ubuntu support to #ubuntu and keep in mind that we quite intentionally don't support anything by Debian in here for a number of technical and social reasons. |
| 17:48.56 | cypherman | petn-randall: do i have to enable a site for webmail in server A? |
| 17:49.19 | petn-randall | cypherman: Can you provide the config? |
| 17:49.22 | jhutchins | cypherman: What webmail package are you using? |
| 17:49.27 | cypherman | roundcube |
| 17:49.36 | jhutchins | !roundcube |
| 17:49.36 | dpkg | Roundcube is an <IMAP> client written in PHP. For use with <lighttpd> on Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", enable both the fastcgi and fastcgi-php modules (bug #600050). Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: SQLite v2 support was dropped, see /usr/share/doc/roundcube-sqlite/NEWS.Debian.gz and http://wiki.debian.org/Roundcube/DeprecationOfSQLitev2 . http://www.roundcube.net/ #roundcube on irc.freenode.net. See also <imapproxy>. |
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| 17:50.24 | jhutchins | cypherman: Debian pakages usualy activate the site, if it's a site or module. |
| 17:50.47 | jhutchins | cypherman: Maybe it's /roundcube instead of /webmail? |
| 17:51.01 | cypherman | jhutchins: i only have my files in /var/www and the configuration in /sites-enabled/default |
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| 17:51.53 | cypherman | i can enter the site.com which is a forum |
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| 17:52.21 | cypherman | then i installed the mail server in another PC, (server B) so because i'm using a freedns |
| 17:52.27 | cypherman | i cannot add a sobdomain |
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| 17:52.47 | cypherman | so i redirected port 8080 for server B for webmail |
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| 17:53.01 | cypherman | i can see webmail in site.com:8080/webmail |
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| 17:53.43 | cypherman | i just wanted to create sort of a redirection of the A apache server to just type site.com/webmail and apache redirect it to the second server... |
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| 17:53.56 | cypherman | but now i think i need to enable that site right? |
| 17:54.01 | cypherman | the webmail |
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| 17:54.25 | jhutchins | cypherman: Sounds like it's working fine to me, except maybe you want a redirect. |
| 17:54.42 | xreal | The source packages are wrong here, how could this happen? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64-dbg |
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| 17:57.03 | jhutchins | xreal: Perhaps you could elaborate a bit on "wrong"? |
| 17:57.48 | SynrG | oh, i know, i know ... :) |
| 17:57.57 | SynrG | i was confused by this once before, too |
| 17:58.20 | xreal | jhutchins: linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64-dbg (3.12.9-1~bpo70+1) with source-package linux_3.13.5-1~bpo70+1.debian.tar.xz? |
| 17:58.32 | SynrG | this is actually correct. let me dredge up why ... |
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| 17:58.39 | SynrG | (my recall isn't what it used to be ;) |
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| 17:59.05 | cypherman | the redirect directive should be in the default-ssl vhost or the webmail vhost? |
| 17:59.14 | cypherman | in webmail vhost does not work |
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| 18:00.05 | cypherman | it shows an empty directory, not showing the server B |
| 18:00.19 | cypherman | site.com/webmail shows an empty directory |
| 18:00.45 | SynrG | xreal: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-built-using |
| 18:01.06 | SynrG | xreal: "Some binary packages incorporate parts of other packages when built but do not have to depend on those packages." |
| 18:01.25 | SynrG | xreal: the 3.12 kernel binary pkgs are Built-Using the 3.13 |
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| 18:01.32 | SynrG | hence, technically, it is correct |
| 18:01.50 | SynrG | confusing, yes, but that's how it is |
| 18:02.13 | xreal | SynrG: but when I download 3.13 and build it using "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -b -rfakeroot", what will it result to? |
| 18:02.27 | xreal | result in* |
| 18:03.06 | SynrG | not the correct result |
| 18:03.19 | SynrG | that's not saying "the source for 3.12 is actually 3.13" |
| 18:03.24 | SynrG | re-read that section of policy |
| 18:03.42 | SynrG | "incorporate parts of" |
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| 18:04.17 | SynrG | i vaguely recall this having to do something with support of different arches, but i may be wrong there |
| 18:04.41 | jhutchins | cypherman: Redirect permanent /webmail host.foo:8080/webmail |
| 18:04.50 | xreal | SynrG: building is running since 2 hours. I'll report later :) |
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| 18:05.55 | cypherman | jhutchins: it's not working |
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| 18:06.19 | BRDB | hey all |
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| 18:06.42 | BRDB | who has experience with homeservers and dynamic ip addresses? |
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| 18:07.10 | cypherman | jhutchins: what port should i specify in the vhost description? and document root? |
| 18:07.22 | xreal | cd\windows |
| 18:07.25 | xreal | win.com |
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| 18:09.20 | BRDB | my domainserver doesn't take dynamic ip-addresses ... but I guess there's more people with this problem... |
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| 18:10.31 | jhutchins | BRDB: You need to be more specific. |
| 18:10.35 | jhutchins | BRDB: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 18:11.40 | BRDB | jhutchins: I already have a working homeserver and had a no-ip.biz address pointing to it but I definatly needed a domain-name of my own so I tracked down a good company. |
| 18:11.57 | cypherman | jhutchins: now it's working |
| 18:13.12 | BRDB | I tried to connect my ip-address to the domain-service as explained but when addressing my domain, I still get their page instead of my own... besides that I tried to set up a home mail server with the domain-services, which is allowed by the domain-service-company... but in the end nothing happend... |
| 18:13.21 | jhutchins | cypherman: Yay! |
| 18:13.42 | jhutchins | BRDB: What is the domin? |
| 18:13.56 | BRDB | my domain? |
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| 18:14.02 | BRDB | mcclouthincorporated.be |
| 18:14.03 | ompaul | BRDB: last thing is last ... until you have proof that the front parts work ... it's no use |
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| 18:14.30 | cypherman | jhutchins: i thought the :8080 would not be visible |
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| 18:14.46 | cypherman | but it simply redirects, it's fine |
| 18:14.56 | ompaul | BRDB: mcclouthincorporated.be has address 87.253.159.248 now if that is not forwarding packets and the like ... that is a firewall issue |
| 18:15.06 | jhutchins | BRDB: Whatever you tried to set up at no-ip.biz isn't complete. |
| 18:15.08 | ompaul | BRDB: if the ip is not right - that is a dn |
| 18:15.13 | ompaul | BRDB: if the ip is not right - that is a dns issue |
| 18:15.19 | cypherman | i thought Apache A would adopt the server B webmail folder as it's own and simply show site.com/webmail |
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| 18:15.40 | BRDB | my ip is dynamic... getting a static one from my isp cost me atleast $50 dollars... |
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| 18:15.51 | ompaul | BRDB: and 50 well spent |
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| 18:16.03 | ompaul | BRDB: if you need a static you need a static |
| 18:16.18 | BRDB | I'm already spending $80 per month on my isp... |
| 18:16.23 | jhutchins | BRDB: Oh, wait, yes that's working. |
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| 18:16.53 | jhutchins | BRDB: Does the ISP force changes, or does it just change if you loose your connection. |
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| 18:17.11 | BRDB | if forces changes multiple times a day |
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| 18:17.33 | ompaul | BRDB: so that is going to play havoc with a mail server |
| 18:17.33 | BRDB | that's why I had to bring in no-ip to be able to do some presentations... |
| 18:18.10 | ompaul | BRDB: maybe you need to look at a vps for email |
| 18:18.21 | ompaul | BRDB: then you can keep the other stuff on your local box |
| 18:18.31 | qman__ | i'm having an issue where mdadm is trying to assemble my array but doesn't find all the devices and thus starts degraded or fails |
| 18:18.34 | BRDB | but still I can't get to my box... |
| 18:18.38 | jhutchins | BRDB: BRDB I believe the correct setting is for your registrar to point your domain at the nameservers for no-ip.biz, and then run the no-ip client to update the address. |
| 18:18.57 | ompaul | BRDB: I look at that ip I see TRANS IP and multiple international flags |
| 18:19.16 | jhutchins | BRDB: There should be complete instructions on the no-ip website, I've done it several times but not for four or five years. |
| 18:19.18 | ompaul | BRDB: from a web page |
| 18:19.20 | qman__ | it's not the root filesystem, and i've already tried rootdelay=15 to no effect so i'm not sure if the fevices are ready or not |
| 18:19.49 | BRDB | jhutchins, so if I'm correct, I should get the nameservers from no-ip and set them up at my domainservice? |
| 18:20.16 | jhutchins | BRDB: Yes, following the instructions from no-ip. |
| 18:20.45 | BRDB | alright... I'm gonna give it a go just now |
| 18:20.51 | qman__ | dmesg indicates the last drive registering about 1 second before mdadm botches things |
| 18:21.07 | jhutchins | BRDB: Their instructions are pretty easy to follow, I just don't have them in front of me, and you should. |
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| 18:22.40 | BRDB | thx so far all |
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| 18:24.15 | qman__ | relevant dmesg excerpt: http://paste.debian.net/90245/ |
| 18:24.52 | qman__ | looks like about 0.3 seconds, not 1 second |
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| 18:29.50 | sigmatek | Is it a good idea to have btrfs on top of LVM ? |
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| 18:33.22 | sigmatek | I find it complicated when I want to make a raid 1 and can't figure out if it's better to just move to plain btrfs |
| 18:33.32 | ompaul | sigmatek: firstly stop after btrfs |
| 18:33.49 | ompaul | sigmatek: LVM and raid solve different problems |
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| 18:34.08 | ompaul | sigmatek: throwing into a melting pot is not a question, it is a question of what is the question. |
| 18:34.25 | ompaul | sigmatek: sorry gotta fly |
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| 18:34.53 | sigmatek | ompaul, hmmm, don't quite follow you... |
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| 18:41.23 | cypherman | jhutchins: but i cannot use HTTPS |
| 18:41.29 | cypherman | because it's a redirect |
| 18:41.48 | cypherman | because port 443 ir redirected to server A |
| 18:42.00 | cypherman | and then cannot have 443 on server B |
| 18:42.03 | cypherman | right? |
| 18:42.34 | SynrG | there are smarter ways to redirect |
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| 18:48.10 | xreal | make[3]: Leaving directory `/opt/kernel/linux-3.13.5' => is it finished now? |
| 18:48.33 | xreal | Nope... linux-source is still bering build. |
| 18:49.38 | digdilem | eeh, i remember when that used to take a day and a half to build |
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| 18:50.27 | xreal | digdilem: I did "-uc -us" - why the heck does it do source? |
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| 18:51.15 | digdilem | dunno. i haven't built a kernel for almost a decade |
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| 18:53.47 | qman__ | same, been about 8 years |
| 18:55.46 | r3m | ,v supybot |
| 18:55.47 | judd | Package: supybot on i386 -- jessie: 0.83.4.1.ds-2; sid: 0.83.4.1.ds-2; squeeze: 0.83.4.1.ds-2; wheezy: 0.83.4.1.ds-2 |
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| 19:02.18 | ompaul | sigmatek: first you must define the problem you wish to solve. |
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| 19:03.16 | ompaul | sigmatek: the file system type, LVM and RAID all solve different problems. Putting them in the one bucket is not asking the right question. You must establish the reason for each in your mixed pot of a result. |
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| 19:17.12 | sigmatek | ompaul, I understand now. I have one HDD and two partitions, home, and /. Each one is a pv/vg/lv(http://hastebin.com/tukuroyojo.vhdl). |
| 19:17.12 | sigmatek | For each lv I have formatted it as btrfs. What I want is to make it such that I have a duplicate copy(RAID1) of my current Debian on |
| 19:17.12 | sigmatek | on another disk (/dev/sdc), for redundancy, in case the main harddrive fails. What would be the proper way to go about it ? |
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| 19:22.06 | jhutchins | sigmatek: Make a backup, set up a raid, apply the filesystem, restore. |
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| 19:30.50 | jhutchins | We recently lost a disk on a hardware raid. Unfortunately, the battery on the controller had failed, and the disk we lost was the disk where the backup of the raid configuration was stored. "Hello, OCFO? Did you still need that server for anything?" |
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| 19:31.32 | jhutchins | RAID != backups. |
| 19:31.40 | cypherman | petn-randall: hey man, i did the apache redirect |
| 19:31.44 | cypherman | now i have a question |
| 19:32.15 | cypherman | if apache makes a redirect to a server B, it cannot do https on port 443 because all 443 trafic is redirected to port A, right? |
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| 19:33.01 | cypherman | jhutchins: right? |
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| 19:34.01 | Quantum` | Alright, I'll file a fscking bug. |
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| 19:37.22 | jhutchins | cypherman: Well, you can do https on port A, no reason not to. |
| 19:37.39 | jhutchins | cypherman: Redirecting to https is pretty common. |
| 19:38.55 | jhutchins | cypherman: It's just like http, which defaults to port 80 but can be on any port you specify - provided you specify. |
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| 19:39.33 | sigmatek | jhutchins, by setting up raid part do you mean that I should use lvm2 & mdadm and just have simple btrfs ? |
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| 19:40.46 | jhutchins | sigmatek: I have not worked with btrfs, and I dislike and avoid lvm, but I think the order is set up mdadmin, set up lvm, then set up btrfs. |
| 19:41.26 | jhutchins | sigmatek: Is btrfs the system that can work with multiple physical devices for a single filesystem, providing raid-like redundancy? |
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| 19:42.35 | buckfast | hi |
| 19:42.38 | jhutchins | sigmatek: I might be thinking of zfs. |
| 19:42.59 | sigmatek | jhutchins, yes from what i read here https://lwn.net/Articles/577961/ |
| 19:43.04 | buckfast | how can I restore the confirmation dialog for "empty trash" command in kde? I accdentally disabled it |
| 19:43.10 | RoyK | jhutchins: I've worked with md raid, zfs and tested btrfs for some time |
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| 19:43.27 | RoyK | jhutchins: I use zfs for critical stuff and md raid where I need flexibility |
| 19:43.33 | RoyK | jhutchins: I don't use btrfs |
| 19:43.43 | RoyK | (just my 2c) |
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| 19:48.32 | RoyK | jhutchins: I generally prefer zfs for its safety and snapshots, compression etc, but it's no good with flexibility compared to md radi |
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| 19:49.53 | xreal | When using the source package for a kernel, what's the correct/modern way to build it the fast way for the current flavour (AMD64) only? 'make-kpkg', 'debian/rules binary-generic', 'make deb-pkg' or 'dpkg-buildpackage' - the last one takes years and created maaaany of DEBs. |
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| 19:54.48 | Scriptonaut | could somebody explain how I can edit fstab to automount a virtualbox shared directory? |
| 19:55.10 | Scriptonaut | normally I mount it like this: sudo mount -t vboxsf webserv /media/webserv |
| 19:55.25 | Scriptonaut | where webserv is the name I made of the shared directory, though I have no idea where it is located |
| 19:55.37 | petern_ | man fstab |
| 19:55.54 | Scriptonaut | yes I've read that, this is a special issue concerning virtualbox |
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| 19:56.04 | Scriptonaut | I'm wondering if any of you have done it with shared dirs |
| 19:56.25 | petern_ | how so? |
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| 19:56.50 | Scriptonaut | man fstab doesn't cover anything about shared directories |
| 19:57.36 | petern_ | it covers anything you can do with mount |
| 19:57.46 | jhutchins | Scriptonaut: No, but it does show how to change a mount command to an fstab entry. |
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| 20:00.17 | sigmatek | jhutchins, thanks for your input I found some stuff on the btrfs wiki faq page that seems to address this sort of situation and I'll experiment with it and see how it goes. |
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| 20:02.13 | Scriptonaut | What is a shared directory name then? Is it a Label? |
| 20:02.22 | Scriptonaut | just putting the name there doesn't work |
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| 20:02.33 | Scriptonaut | the first field is what I'm having trouble with |
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| 20:03.23 | roboman2444 | ok, so my little old 32 meg laptop cant boot a generated initrd either because of limited ram, or because of the right module not being loaded |
| 20:03.36 | jhutchins | sigmatek: GOod luck. Come back and post the writup when you're done! |
| 20:03.45 | roboman2444 | and i cant generate a targetted initrd for it because i cant get the installer to finish on the machine... fails because of little ram |
| 20:03.53 | roboman2444 | but, the installer DOES boot and run |
| 20:03.55 | Guest52041 | hey folks, what does fdisk mean by telling 'update /etc/fstab if necessary... and when i repartition my flashcard.. it doesnt mount :/? |
| 20:04.14 | roboman2444 | so, im wondering if i can take the installer disk's kernel and initrd, and use those in a debian installation |
| 20:04.29 | ctmjr | Scriptonaut: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15868 |
| 20:04.40 | roboman2444 | just so i can get a working environment where i can generate a good, working initrd |
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| 20:05.58 | Scriptonaut | thanks ctmjr :P |
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| 20:31.28 | morixx | i'm confused about file permissions, |
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| 20:32.04 | xreal | When using the source package for a kernel, what's the correct/modern way to build it the fast way for the current flavour (AMD64) only? 'make-kpkg', 'debian/rules binary-generic', 'make deb-pkg' or 'dpkg-buildpackage' - the last one takes years and created maaaany of DEBs. |
| 20:32.12 | centrx | morixx, Go on... |
| 20:32.40 | morixx | when I install a program using apt-get, what are the default permissions for the binaries? and who decide about these default permissions? |
| 20:32.46 | centrx | xreal, Not sure, try #debian-mentors on OFTC |
| 20:33.30 | xreal | centrx: OFTC? |
| 20:33.45 | xreal | centrx: a OFTC! |
| 20:33.47 | xreal | ah |
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| 20:34.14 | centrx | morixx, The package maintainer decides the permissions. Also affected by the Debian Policy Manual, probably https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html |
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| 20:34.51 | centrx | morixx, I am pretty sure binaries are all 755 though |
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| 20:35.42 | morixx | thanks, I just need to know where that 'decision' is made |
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| 20:36.52 | centrx | morixx, Those decisions are made by the package maintainer. The package is maintainer is bound by the Debian Policy Manual, and the package maintainer can be overridden by the Debian Technical Committee. |
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| 20:37.22 | centrx | morixx, s/Those decisions/All intra-package decisions |
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| 20:37.43 | morixx | centrx: thank you, reading |
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| 20:38.58 | g105b | Hi, could someone remind me of some software that is used to transfer control of a server to another when the original goes down? |
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| 20:39.28 | g105b | I can't remember the name of the software... I used to use it to wire to a different hostname on the network. |
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| 20:40.50 | cypherman | petn-randall: https redirection to server B is not working |
| 20:41.20 | ScottE | g105b: load balancer? |
| 20:41.43 | g105b | ScottE: I'm trying to remember the name of a particular software ... mind has gone blank. |
| 20:41.49 | g105b | I think it began with 'h' ... :) |
| 20:42.04 | ScottE | g105b: haproxy? |
| 20:42.17 | g105b | not sure ... will google. |
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| 20:50.30 | Blakney | Hmm, there is "Connection Information" in the Network Manager and it also shows the primary and the secondary DNS. I changed resolv.conf, so the connection uses the DNS servers I've chosen, but in "Connection Information" there are the ones from the ISP. |
| 20:50.39 | ldnblk | hi there does anyone know what the knoppix equivelent of os-prober is by any chance ? |
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| 20:50.58 | Blakney | Could someone maybe explain or point in the right direction why those DNS servers are still shown? |
| 20:52.00 | centrx | Blakney, I think NetworkManager overwrites whatever is in resolv.conf with its own configuration |
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| 20:53.59 | Blakney | centrx Well, I checked it on grc.com and the servers from the connection information are NOT in use. I'm wondering where the Network Manager takes the DNS server data... |
| 20:54.22 | Blakney | I mean IP |
| 20:55.41 | vook | Blakney: if you don't explicitly specify DNS in /etc/network/interfaces, and it's set up as DHCP, it'll draw the DNS info from dhcp. |
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| 20:57.01 | vook | you'll need a line in /etc/network/interfaces (under "iface eth0 ....") that says something like "dns-nameservers 12.34.56.78" |
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| 20:59.59 | tosted | cant start compiz tried all google search resources |
| 21:00.46 | Blakney | vook I see, thanks for pointing in the right direction, it's indeed not specified in /etc/network/interfaces. I was looking for configuration of the DNS servers in the Network Manager - I do remember that I did it on other distros -, but there seems to be no possibility to configure dns there. |
| 21:01.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell tosted about compiz |
| 21:02.14 | babilen | tosted: See if they are able/willing to help you in their channel. It has been removed from Debian post-squeeze due to being dead. |
| 21:02.40 | centrx | tosted, compiz is old. Use something else |
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| 21:04.02 | juslintek | Hi guys, problem: http://paste.debian.net/90276/ how to troubleshoot httpd and find out which user is putting so much load? |
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| 21:04.57 | mtn | Blakney: you can set dns in network manager, it is under the ipv4 tab |
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| 21:08.05 | Blakney | mtn Indeed, my bad, I overlooked it because the setting was not "adresses only" - thank you, that's what I was looking for! |
| 21:08.20 | mtn | Blakney: you're welcome |
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| 21:20.20 | tosted | babilen, centrx , thanks helping an old and tired little man...was off since last year. |
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| 21:43.17 | raspix | ± |
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| 21:43.23 | raspix | ±²³ |
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| 21:48.34 | mintgreen | how is LMDB related to Debian? |
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| 21:52.15 | centrx | mintgreen, "LMDB is an ultra-fast, ultra-compact key-value embedded data store developed by Symas for the OpenLDAP Project." |
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| 21:54.09 | mintgreen | centrx: i meant linuxmint-debian |
| 21:54.24 | shawnbon206 | http://hastebin.com/demidocequ.sm anyone have any idea why this wouldnt be working ? |
| 21:54.39 | shawnbon206 | apt pinning not working^ all details in paste |
| 21:55.11 | centrx | mintgreen, It is a "Debian-based" or "Debian-derived" distribution. |
| 21:55.23 | mtn | mintgreen: their website should explain what it is pretty well |
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| 21:56.30 | shawnbon206 | mintgreen: you want cinnamon, is that it? |
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| 22:01.44 | somiaj | running into some snags trying to swtich to uefi boot on sid. I have a new hd, I created my gpt partitions with a 550MB efi boot parttion with the proper type/label. I'm in a debian live image and loaded efivars, but it isn't populating /sys/firmware/efi (no directory there) and thus I'm not able to use the efibootmanager. |
| 22:03.10 | TJ- | somiaj: That means the ISO image didn't boot in UEFI mode, but used legacy CSM boot |
| 22:03.15 | petn-randall | somiaj: Sounds like you didn't boot in UEFI mode. |
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| 22:03.41 | petn-randall | somiaj: Best you deactivate all "legacy" and "CSM" you can find in the setup. |
| 22:03.53 | somiaj | I have not been able to find an image that boots in efi mode |
| 22:04.35 | somiaj | the live image didnt' seem to have that option. the debian 7-4 unoffical firmware image complianed of a corrupt efi partition on the image. I guess I'll try just the regular wheezy netinstall |
| 22:04.37 | shawnbon206 | i know what to do |
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| 22:05.12 | shawnbon206 | install debian, refrain from installing grub, boot system with uefi live cd from any distro, chroot in, install grub-efi |
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| 22:05.47 | shawnbon206 | thats what i did it worked |
| 22:05.59 | somiaj | I got all that it is booting in uefi mode I'm having trouble with. I was hoping I could manually configure it from a legacy boot then boot the actual partition in efi mode |
| 22:06.03 | shawnbon206 | supergrub2disk makes it easy |
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| 22:06.51 | astard | hi guys, I installed debian jessie on a thinkpad x240. a really nice laptop, but video driver does not work properly. screen tearing when scrolling in browser, and fail to play video, shows a frame every 3 secs. Anyone can give a hand? |
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| 22:07.11 | somiaj | astard: what video card and driver are you using? |
| 22:07.19 | astard | lspci sais this: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 09) |
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| 22:07.43 | astard | and video driver is: xserver-xorg-video-intel I believe |
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| 22:09.52 | somiaj | astard: not much experience with that card, do you see any info in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or the output of 'xvinfo' and 'glxinfo' |
| 22:10.16 | astard | hm, did not have mesa-utils :D installing now |
| 22:10.25 | somiaj | I would first read the xorg log and see what driver is actually loaded |
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| 22:12.13 | astard | cool, glxgears works well on 3d at least. |
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| 22:14.15 | doublehp | how do i tell to resolv.conf to ... use a specific IP to resolv a specific domain ? without installing bind on my desktop ... |
| 22:14.57 | somiaj | doublehp: just put the entry in /etc/hosts |
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| 22:15.17 | somiaj | doublehp: that file is checked before resolv.conf for nameservers |
| 22:15.24 | astard | [ 24.488] (II) LoadModule: "intel"; [ 24.489] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so |
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| 22:15.26 | doublehp | somiaj: I am talking about a whole domain !!! with machines added by admin (not me) every day |
| 22:16.00 | somiaj | petn-randall: when I try to uefi boot from a debian install iso I get 'the system found unauthorized changes on the firmware, operating system or UEFI drivers." is this some secure boot thing or trouble with the uefi boots? |
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| 22:18.00 | somiaj | doublehp: hmm, then I don't know of any other options execpt for maybe some sort of local nameserver. |
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| 22:20.48 | astard | rebooting :| |
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| 22:22.47 | iateadonut | i've got a jailkitted user, and when i do php ./script.php, i'm getting an error: Fatal error: Class 'PDO' not found |
| 22:22.48 | iateadonut | i don't get this when i use the root user; i'm not sure how to let the jailkit user do this. |
| 22:22.53 | somiaj | hmm, okay I think I found the option, had to change the uefi mode to 'other os' |
| 22:23.26 | somiaj | iateadonut: the jail has to have all files accessable to it relative to the jail I would assume |
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| 22:26.49 | somiaj | so is grub-efi recomended for efi boot, or since efi is a boot loader to use a simplier loader? |
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| 22:36.23 | dutchfish | iateadonut, normally you have to find the php-cli binary and add the path to it in the jailkit configuration |
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| 22:36.59 | dutchfish | iateadonut, if that is wise, is another question, that depends |
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| 22:43.15 | dutchfish | iateadonut, also php.ini needs something like extension=pdo.so |
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| 22:49.25 | iateadonut | thanks. nothing's working. i've put a query up in the ispconfig forum. |
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| 22:52.22 | shawnbon206 | this is clearly an apt pinning bug |
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| 22:53.21 | astard | somiaj: googled and tested a little and I found something interesting. videoplayback works well when mplayer -vo x11 instead of default xv |
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| 22:53.34 | jhutchins | ispconfig. |
| 22:53.47 | jhutchins | iateadonut: There's yer problem, right there. |
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| 22:55.18 | iateadonut | yes, indeed. |
| 22:55.36 | iateadonut | what would you use instead? |
| 22:56.11 | jhutchins | iateadonut: I don't mean to sound elitist or anything, but bash & vi over ssh. |
| 22:56.42 | jhutchins | iateadonut: That way you know what has changed and how. |
| 22:57.28 | jhutchins | iateadonut: The problem with control panels is that you are trusting someone else to know everything about your system and what you're trying to do. |
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| 23:02.07 | iateadonut | i found it - /etc/php5/cli/* was what i had to jk_cp over |
| 23:02.43 | iateadonut | thanks, guys. |
| 23:03.02 | iateadonut | shoulda done find / -iname '*php*' | grep cli and not grep pdo |
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| 23:06.51 | themill | shawnbon206: I'd say "default-release" is not what you want there. (it rarely is) |
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| 23:12.36 | shawnbon206 | themill can you please paste that link i pasted? sorry i went out of the house but my znc buffer isnt long enough |
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| 23:13.44 | themill | http://hastebin.com/demidocequ.sm ? |
| 23:15.42 | shawnbon206 | how did you get default-release from that? |
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| 23:16.16 | shawnbon206 | ohhh |
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| 23:16.24 | shawnbon206 | jessie/main is the problem? |
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| 23:20.12 | themill | shawnbon206: default-release is a 'general form' pin and the first of them that matches applies. |
| 23:21.52 | themill | I have been long of the opinion that "Default-Release" shouldn't be advertised in the documentation or recommended as a solution to anything because it has lots of unintended consequences like these. It only makes sense in the form of the -t command line option, not in the config file. |
| 23:23.10 | shawnbon206 | i have never set default release |
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| 23:24.46 | themill | where does the 990 come from then? |
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| 23:26.13 | shawnbon206 | when i installed the only things i recall doing were s/wheezy/jessie to sources.list && update && dist-upgrade |
| 23:26.53 | themill | the 990 comes from your configuration somewhere |
| 23:27.07 | themill | (either from other pinning stanzas or from a default-release directive) |
| 23:27.08 | shawnbon206 | ok i will try to find it |
| 23:27.27 | shawnbon206 | ok i think youre right |
| 23:28.02 | shawnbon206 | can i just remove the default-release directive? |
| 23:29.02 | themill | well... that depends on why you added it. You may need to reimplement it (better) in some pinning. |
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| 23:34.20 | shawnbon206 | ok will do. many thanks for the hint |
| 23:34.32 | shawnbon206 | hint(s) :) |
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