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| 00:04.49 | MrFrood | fommil: the best place to ask about testing is in #debian-next on oftc |
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| 00:06.55 | fommil | MrFrood: I suspect the same thing would happen in wheezy |
| 00:07.00 | tomreyn | hdmi sounds cards are pci devices, not usb, right? |
| 00:07.09 | fommil | tomreyn: that's right |
| 00:07.43 | fommil | tomreyn: I can hear sound if i explicitly tell aplay to use that card, but I don't know how to specify that globally as the default |
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| 00:08.17 | compTECH | anyone here knows where to find free shell accounts |
| 00:08.18 | tomreyn | oh, that should be possible with your sound management |
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| 00:08.38 | tomreyn | ...pulseaudio or alsa or whatever you use |
| 00:08.47 | fommil | tomreyn: yeah, but how? i'm using alsa |
| 00:08.50 | fommil | aplay -D default:CARD=PCH /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav |
| 00:08.53 | fommil | that works |
| 00:09.17 | tomreyn | ~/.amixrc i think. alsa have a huge FAQ on their website |
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| 00:10.13 | tomreyn | if you want to try to disable the device entirely, i never did that other than by driver blacklisting, but supposedly you get the pci bus/slot info from lspci -vv and then unpower it with: echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/slot/$N/power |
| 00:10.18 | Brigo | fommil, try with paprefs or paman |
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| 00:10.25 | tomreyn | where $N is the slot id |
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| 00:10.44 | tomreyn | what brigo says if you have pulseaudio |
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| 00:12.15 | fommil | tomreyn: ideally I'd set the order, but since the cards are using the same kernel driver it's not obvious how to do it |
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| 00:12.49 | tomreyn | dunno. i bet it's possible but don't know how |
| 00:12.51 | fommil | Brigo: i don't have pulseaudio installed. i'd like to keep it simple and alsa seems to be the bare essentials |
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| 00:13.42 | Brigo | fommil, ok, sorry |
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| 00:16.59 | tomreyn | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Select_the_default_PCM_via_environment_variable |
| 00:17.09 | tomreyn | http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards |
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| 00:17.50 | tomreyn | fommil: ^ |
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| 00:18.20 | fommil | tomreyn: yeah, thanks, I've been looking at these. my aplay -L doesn't output device numbers. |
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| 00:19.42 | compTECH | Brigo i didnt found anything there |
| 00:20.31 | Brigo | compTECH, sorry but i do not know the shell you are searching for. |
| 00:20.47 | compTECH | or like vps i think |
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| 00:31.25 | pederindi | Hi, my debian computer is ignoring combination: Control + Alt + Shift + number. But works If I quit one of the control keys [testing with xev]. Suggestions? [I discovered the problem executing C-M-% in emacs...] hp laptop keyboard |
| 00:32.29 | cafuego | IS_THIS_GREEN: it's blue |
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| 00:33.22 | cafuego | You went from cyan to light blue |
| 00:33.32 | cafuego | On my theme anyway. |
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| 00:50.08 | lobocode | Hi guys |
| 00:50.15 | lobocode | a question, Debian 6 and 7 contains binary blobs in the kernel? |
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| 00:51.54 | MrFrood | !tell lobocode about firmware |
| 00:52.48 | centrx | lobocode, No |
| 00:53.56 | lobocode | centrx, contains few or none? |
| 00:54.20 | SOUL_OF_R00T | anyone can giver me a tip about where and how i can buy thin clients to put in my home network ? |
| 00:54.42 | centrx | lobocode, All non-free blobs were removed as of squeeze/6.0 for violating the DFSG |
| 00:55.07 | centrx | lobocode, They are available in non-free packages in the Debian repository called e.g. firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 00:55.33 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: you can probably use just about any hardware you want; old hardware works just fine as a thin client. There are also various atom and other low-power procesor based things which will netboot and run Debian |
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| 00:55.43 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: newegg and other places sell all of them |
| 00:55.46 | lobocode | centrx, I understand that binary blobs are different firmwares. |
| 00:55.49 | centrx | lobocode, https://www.debian.org/News/2010/20101215 |
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| 00:56.53 | SOUL_OF_R00T | dondelelcaro, have you a tip abou a model or manufacturer is compatible with linux i have interest to study it but no pratice ! |
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| 01:00.09 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: pretty much anything which can boot using bootp or dhcp and uses a supported Debian architecture can work |
| 01:00.21 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: but I'd honestly start working with hardware you already own |
| 01:00.39 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: most off-the-shelf hardware can netboot |
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| 01:02.19 | SOUL_OF_R00T | dondelelcaro, i have some pratice with diskless under frebsd i plan made diskless station to run debian here i think in use thin clients is it the beter way? |
| 01:03.59 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: either way works |
| 01:05.34 | SOUL_OF_R00T | very thanks dondelelcaro i search more information and probably follow your tip abot newegg |
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| 01:06.19 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: you could probably also use any of the MK802 based computers as well |
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| 01:08.36 | SOUL_OF_R00T | dondelelcaro, actualy my diskless stations runs freebsd 9.2-stable i use one programing environment for perl python and c++ maybe android for the case of mk802 not apply for me |
| 01:08.39 | atannus | Every time Jessie boots up it gets the displays swapped around. I use nvidia-settings to fix it, write the config to xorg.conf.d in a numbered file but the next boot ignores it. Any ideas why? |
| 01:09.10 | atannus | (the file _is_ getting written) |
| 01:09.21 | dondelelcaro | SOUL_OF_R00T: well, you can run Debian on the mk802, you don't have to run android |
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| 01:09.32 | ranix | yo! |
| 01:09.51 | ranix | anyone know why schein.debian.org is 404ing requests for security.debian.org |
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| 01:10.16 | SOUL_OF_R00T | dondelelcaro, in this case i search information about it very thanks |
| 01:11.21 | SOUL_OF_R00T | time to go to bed, se us tomorrow very thanks guys |
| 01:12.00 | ranix | http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources 404 wtf |
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| 01:12.58 | dondelelcaro | ranix: we don't distribute http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources anymore; it's http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources.gz. |
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| 01:13.58 | ranix | hmm, dondelelcaro do you know where I can find info about how to tell apt to get Sources.gz instead of Sources? |
| 01:14.16 | dondelelcaro | hrm; actually Source is mentioned in the Release file, so it probably should be there |
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| 01:14.41 | lobocode | debian contains binary blobs. Firmwares is the operating system level. Binary blobs are the kernel level. GNU / Hurd Debian for example, not contain firmwares and binary blobs. The gNewSense not contains binary blobs and firmwares it uses linux-libre kernel. |
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| 01:15.47 | dondelelcaro | ranix: anyway, apt-get should be getting the Sources.bz2 file IIRC. |
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| 01:16.06 | dondelelcaro | ranix: but if getting that failed, it might fall back to the Sources file |
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| 01:16.16 | ranix | dondelelcaro: it appears to not be trying to get Sources,bz2 |
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| 01:16.35 | ranix | it hits Sources right away |
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| 01:16.57 | MrFrood | lobocode: no, see the previous post and try to understand them this time |
| 01:17.00 | ranix | it seems to be successfully getting Sources from the wheezy/main repo on ftp.us.debian.org |
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| 01:17.59 | dondelelcaro | ranix: it just prints sources, but that's not what it's retrieving. apt-get --print-uris update; will tell you want it's trying to get |
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| 01:18.58 | ranix | nice thanks dondelelcaro, will troubleshoot with that |
| 01:18.58 | dondelelcaro | ranix: at least, that's what it should be doing by default. Unless you've changed the compressions which are supported in your apt.conf |
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| 01:19.36 | ranix | it's actually 404ing |
| 01:19.49 | dondelelcaro | ranix: it's a 404 because it doesn't exist anymore |
| 01:19.59 | dondelelcaro | ranix: we stopped distributing it to avoid wasting mirror space |
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| 01:20.11 | ranix | no I mean the bz2 |
| 01:20.16 | ranix | very strange |
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| 01:20.55 | dondelelcaro | ranix: hrm; it works just fine for me |
| 01:21.10 | ranix | it does on another computer of mine as well |
| 01:21.19 | ranix | clearly not a problem with the repo |
| 01:21.26 | ranix | intredasting |
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| 01:22.03 | dondelelcaro | probably time to pull out tcpdump and see what is actually going on |
| 01:23.36 | themill | "apt-get -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update" often tells you enough |
| 01:23.52 | dondelelcaro | good point |
| 01:24.12 | ranix | this is going to be a little weirder, wget is actually 404ing on that file |
| 01:24.37 | ranix | it's connecting to schein.debian.org somehow |
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| 01:27.22 | jetscreamer | round robin |
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| 01:29.17 | ranix | ugh ok this is because of trying to do debian updates via an ssh port forward |
| 01:29.37 | ranix | I guess schein.debian.org doesn't like getting a request from a uri that doesn't include 'security.debian.org' |
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| 01:30.23 | anton02 | would you rather use kvm or virtualbox to run windows 7 on in a VM on linux? |
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| 01:30.53 | ranix | anton02: I prefer kvm because it's more familiar, but I would rather not run a vm at all |
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| 01:31.44 | _|x|_ | i need some multihead help, on radeon drivers; i cant get past a sort-of cloned desktop |
| 01:32.16 | _|x|_ | and everytime i try to write a xorg it can't detect screens -_- |
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| 01:33.37 | acu | !paste |
| 01:33.37 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 01:33.38 | anton02 | ranix: why not |
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| 01:37.09 | ranix | anton02: vms are generally slow and clunky and just useless in general |
| 01:37.25 | centrx | useless lol? |
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| 01:37.46 | ranix | anton02: I once was meaning to check out xen for proper windows emulation but then my time became more valuable |
| 01:38.26 | anton02 | ranix: i would say theyre very useful |
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| 01:39.34 | ranix | not when Fry's is down the street and the electric company has reasonable rates |
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| 01:42.01 | anton02 | xen actually sounds quite interesting, i would how functional it is currently |
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| 02:16.55 | cypherman | hey guys |
| 02:17.37 | cypherman | i'm having a problem, i uninstalled lightdm in debian wheezy xfce for a pure tty text mode system and ocassionally executing startx for a x session |
| 02:17.41 | cypherman | i can do it nce |
| 02:17.43 | cypherman | nice |
| 02:18.25 | cypherman | but in thunar, i cannot mount usb devices |
| 02:18.46 | cypherman | maybe some volume managment daemon is not started properly?? |
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| 02:18.50 | cypherman | any ideas?/ |
| 02:19.36 | centrx | Maybe thunar requires gvfs ? |
| 02:19.41 | atannus | read something about how setting up a pure tty system might yield trouble when mounting on manually started X sessions. |
| 02:19.41 | rjsalts | cypherman: udisks? |
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| 02:21.53 | cypherman | rjsalts: how do i launch that? i managed to manually mount the fat partition of a pendrive, but when clicking in the sidebar icon it says: error not authorized |
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| 02:23.49 | T60 | Does anyone here use a laptop/computer that is pre 2007? Like a T60? |
| 02:24.18 | dvs | T60: ask your real question. |
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| 02:24.33 | T60 | ;~; people bully me for having an "old" computer |
| 02:24.41 | centrx | lol |
| 02:25.14 | centrx | dpkg: do comfort T60 |
| 02:25.14 | dpkg | does comfort T60 |
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| 02:25.51 | T60 | I mean why would I need anything more? I don't need a $1000.00+ laptop to run netbeans. |
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| 02:26.00 | Sk8r_Brandon | if u r looking for a fun chat room about skating, a new place to hang out, or just a place to get away from all the lamerz out there, check out my new chat room #sk8! today. its the new best great chat where the fun never ends and skating rules. we have lots of fun and talk about all things skating. its the ultimate skate chat with no rules. so if u want a fun chat, or to even maybe meet a new best friend, check out #sk8! for a great time. |
| 02:26.37 | BackEndCoder | er fuck off? |
| 02:26.43 | Sk8r_Brandon | if u r looking for a fun chat room about skating, a new place to hang out, or just a place to get away from all the lamerz out there, check out my new chat room #sk8! today. its the new best great chat where the fun never ends and skating rules. we have lots of fun and talk about all things skating. its the ultimate skate chat with no rules. so if u want a fun chat, or to even maybe meet a new best friend, check out #sk8! for a great time. |
| 02:27.07 | BackEndCoder | T60, i wouldn't have thought my laptop could even run netbeans lol |
| 02:27.11 | Sk8r_Brandon | if u r looking for a fun chat room about skating, a new place to hang out, or just a place to get away from all the lamerz out there, check out my new chat room #sk8! today. its the new best great chat where the fun never ends and skating rules. we have lots of fun and talk about all things skating. its the ultimate skate chat with no rules. so if u want a fun chat, or to even maybe meet a new best friend, check out #sk8! for a great time. |
| 02:27.23 | T60 | thank goodness he got kicked |
| 02:27.33 | dvs | hides from idoru |
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| 02:27.54 | T60 | I mean T60 have spill proof keyboards and most IBMs are tough as heck |
| 02:28.07 | T60 | Why can't people love my T60 for the way it is? |
| 02:28.10 | dvs | T60: Both my desktop motherboards are from 2008 so I"m kinda in the same boat. |
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| 02:28.53 | T60 | dvs I got a pretty GNU question, but how do I send private messages on irssi? Like whenever people message me their name changes to yellow. |
| 02:28.59 | BackEndCoder | i am slow on the uptake, and only last year got to own my own dual core laptop |
| 02:29.10 | dvs | T60: /msg <person> ? |
| 02:29.17 | dvs | just don't do it in here. |
| 02:29.34 | T60 | what? aren't you doing that right now |
| 02:29.38 | T60 | your name is yellow to me right now |
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| 02:29.50 | BackEndCoder | i'm also talking to you T60 |
| 02:29.57 | dvs | T60: Probably because I used your ID |
| 02:29.58 | BackEndCoder | and i'm not yellow |
| 02:30.00 | dvs | T60 |
| 02:30.04 | T60 | dvs |
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| 02:30.20 | T60 | Oh, so it changes to yellow when you write someone's username? |
| 02:30.21 | dvs | see? |
| 02:30.28 | dvs | yes |
| 02:30.33 | dvs | T60: it does |
| 02:30.38 | houn_ | T60: By Default, irssi will turn the name of someone yellow when their message contains your name. |
| 02:30.52 | T60 | thanks for the clarification without bashing me |
| 02:31.11 | dvs | Everyone is new at some time. |
| 02:31.24 | BackEndCoder | T60, the bashing is to come later, sleep with one eye open :O |
| 02:31.30 | T60 | :0 |
| 02:32.10 | T60 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.31 | BackEndCoder | er |
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| 02:32.36 | BackEndCoder | an Asus F3E |
| 02:33.07 | T60 | looks cool |
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| 02:33.47 | BackEndCoder | its really poo |
| 02:33.57 | BackEndCoder | and i can't make my wireless an AP on it |
| 02:34.18 | T60 | Would an older laptop use more power than a newer laptop? |
| 02:34.18 | BackEndCoder | but it does turn on, and it will run debian on it nicely so i can't really complain |
| 02:34.24 | T60 | ^yeah |
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| 02:34.33 | BackEndCoder | that would really depend on the laptop |
| 02:34.36 | BackEndCoder | and the spec |
| 02:34.42 | T60 | T60 vs Dell XPS series |
| 02:34.52 | T60 | I actually down graded, haha |
| 02:34.59 | BackEndCoder | well the xps would rince it |
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| 02:35.59 | T60 | wut |
| 02:36.16 | BackEndCoder | sorry i will translate |
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| 02:36.33 | BackEndCoder | i said the xps would be the most powerful due to its more powerful processer |
| 02:36.51 | T60 | but also my centrino is less "efficient" |
| 02:37.10 | T60 | what the heck am i doing, there are probably spec sheets online somewhere |
| 02:37.27 | BackEndCoder | yeah check out cpubenchmark.net |
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| 02:38.15 | BackEndCoder | i know that more about power than amp usage |
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| 02:38.34 | BackEndCoder | but i'm sure it will get you close :) |
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| 02:39.01 | BackEndCoder | if you are worried about power usage |
| 02:39.04 | compTECH | anyone here wiling to share some shell |
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| 02:39.09 | BackEndCoder | get something with an atom in it |
| 02:39.12 | compTECH | i want to learn how to install eggdrop and znc |
| 02:39.15 | T60 | im slightly worried |
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| 02:40.08 | BackEndCoder | just don't expect it to be very powerful :D |
| 02:40.18 | BackEndCoder | my old router was a 486 from years ago |
| 02:40.35 | T60 | time to pull out my hand cranking electricity generator |
| 02:40.38 | BackEndCoder | it used more power than my desktop machine (that was 200 times faster) |
| 02:40.43 | T60 | poor students cannot pay the bill :/ |
| 02:40.51 | T60 | lol |
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| 02:41.34 | three_legs | erm i just deleted my libc.so.6 completly by accident |
| 02:41.38 | centrx | woops |
| 02:41.40 | three_legs | :/ |
| 02:41.42 | centrx | don't move |
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| 02:41.46 | BackEndCoder | ouch |
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| 02:41.49 | three_legs | oh no i can't see new text either |
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| 02:42.15 | BackEndCoder | you can use wget without that file can't you |
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| 02:43.19 | T60 | install gentoo> |
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| 02:44.19 | houn_ | Does anyone know if mpc has a config file? |
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| 02:44.46 | T60 | lol I spent all of yesterday configuring mpd and ncmpcpp |
| 02:44.54 | T60 | the damn visualizer did not work |
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| 02:45.12 | houn_ | T60: Was your nick "locked" yesterday? |
| 02:45.19 | T60 | yeah |
| 02:45.23 | three_legs | qq |
| 02:45.37 | BackEndCoder | compTECH, with repect, please don't pm me |
| 02:45.40 | houn_ | Yeah, I told you to paste me your configs, because I got it working first try. ;-) |
| 02:45.52 | T60 | wat |
| 02:45.53 | compTECH | ahh okay im sorry BackEndCoder |
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| 02:45.57 | BackEndCoder | compTECH, and no, its unlikely someone is going to give you a 'free shell' |
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| 02:46.01 | mcurran | what's up peeps? |
| 02:46.02 | T60 | I just went to the mpd irc and they fixed everything |
| 02:46.09 | compTECH | ahhh |
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| 02:46.11 | houn | lol |
| 02:46.14 | mcurran | Is there a newer iso than wheezy to get plain gnome? |
| 02:46.22 | T60 | I'm technically not even supposed to be here I don't even use debian as a main |
| 02:46.31 | mcurran | well technically... |
| 02:46.45 | mcurran | what movie? |
| 02:46.49 | abrotman | mcurran: other than jessie, which I already told you may not work ? |
| 02:46.57 | mcurran | Billy Madison Wayeeeeayy!!! |
| 02:47.01 | abrotman | ... |
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| 02:47.18 | mcurran | how do you get just the cli? |
| 02:47.23 | mcurran | expert install? |
| 02:47.23 | abrotman | from what? |
| 02:47.35 | mcurran | just wondering cause I'm about to dive in... yeah wheezy |
| 02:47.39 | abrotman | mcurran: when you get to the tasksel screen, unselect the Desktop task |
| 02:47.57 | mcurran | taskel... |
| 02:48.11 | houn | Anyway, does mpc have a config file? Or do I need to alias it to always use the mpd password? |
| 02:48.31 | T60 | >>> #mpd |
| 02:48.35 | mcurran | so is it jessie or wheezy iso, so I can use jessie and do this? cause I'd prefer that, even though i just wiped my usb that had it on there |
| 02:48.42 | BackEndCoder | 'task select screen' |
| 02:48.47 | T60 | I don't think it had a config file |
| 02:49.01 | T60 | why do you need to change it anyways? |
| 02:49.06 | houn | T60: Yeah, I'm not seeing anything. |
| 02:49.12 | T60 | yeah me neither |
| 02:49.13 | houn | Oh, my mpd is password protected. |
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| 02:49.15 | mcurran | yeah, don't remember a task select, I remember package config, then pick the packages, but they were broad groups |
| 02:49.15 | abrotman | mcurran: use wheezy, i've told you this probably five times now |
| 02:49.26 | abrotman | mcurran: yes, that's tasksel |
| 02:49.27 | houn | So I have to do "mpc -h password@localhost" for every command. |
| 02:49.30 | mcurran | yes, that's what I thought |
| 02:49.40 | T60 | so you aren't running it as a user? |
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| 02:49.45 | houn | I am. |
| 02:49.50 | T60 | what- |
| 02:49.54 | houn | I just put a password on it. |
| 02:49.58 | T60 | oh |
| 02:49.59 | mcurran | I'm not trying to be rude but you just said, "mcurran: other than jessie, which I already told you may not work" |
| 02:50.01 | houn | It's one of the config options. |
| 02:50.10 | houn | It's because I use it to stream to my phone, see. |
| 02:50.13 | houn | It's live on the internet. |
| 02:50.15 | mcurran | k, i'll check it out again, thank you guys |
| 02:50.23 | abrotman | mcurran: that's nonsense. I've told you multiple times in the last few days. |
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| 02:50.34 | mcurran | so is this in the expert install |
| 02:50.43 | abrotman | no ... |
| 02:50.44 | mcurran | abrotman scroll up |
| 02:50.45 | houn | So, I put a password on it so no random schmuck running a port scan will try to connect and mess with my playlist. |
| 02:50.48 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mcurran about ig |
| 02:50.52 | abrotman | mcurran: scroll back five days .. |
| 02:50.58 | mcurran | k |
| 02:51.12 | BackEndCoder | abrotman, :) |
| 02:51.14 | mcurran | just wanted to be clear before I wasted an hour downloading and installing |
| 02:51.39 | mcurran | don't know why wheezy would have taskel cli but jessie doesn't |
| 02:51.48 | T60 | So how do I deal with my bullying problems guys? |
| 02:51.57 | mcurran | head butt |
| 02:52.06 | mcurran | always works |
| 02:52.15 | exilepilot | Does anyone use urxvt? I am having problems wid it |
| 02:52.18 | T60 | I don't feel bad for myself, more for my poor T60 |
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| 02:52.27 | abrotman | T60: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 02:52.43 | T60 | abrotman: I did |
| 02:52.51 | abrotman | Do you now? |
| 02:52.54 | mcurran | I have a MSI Z87 MPOWER MAX, with no money for a core i7-4770K |
| 02:52.56 | T60 | Ok i'll leave now |
| 02:53.00 | mcurran | :( |
| 02:53.03 | T60 | sorry |
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| 02:53.21 | BackEndCoder | :'( |
| 02:53.26 | mcurran | so i continue to crash games and corrupt files on yet another win8 install on a 2004 ibm server |
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| 02:54.51 | mcurran | I have a GTX 580, with some missing (scratched off) ceramic capacitors and transistors and what not. I tried soldering a few back on, but had no luck since they're basically microsocopic, but if anyone else is interested: Hit me up. |
| 02:56.27 | BackEndCoder | mcurran, try #ebay |
| 02:56.58 | mcurran | Ah, found it, the jessie installer has taskel too, I'm gonna give it a whirl, cause I hate being stuck with iceweasel and libreoffice with aptitude install -f. Is there a way to edit the package config's so that aptitude does not want to revert back to meta packages? |
| 02:57.28 | zinx | mcurran: kinda hard to resolder SMT caps with an iron |
| 02:57.35 | abrotman | ... |
| 02:57.37 | mcurran | yeah exactly |
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| 02:57.42 | ranix | hi abrotman |
| 02:57.44 | ranix | :) |
| 02:58.03 | abrotman | waves a bit |
| 02:58.13 | zinx | mcurran: use a heat gun or get a real SMT reflow station :P |
| 02:58.28 | mcurran | abrotman, you must know a quick way to solve that with aptitude. can i just delete dpkg config files instead of manually uninstalling the meta's and reinstalling basically everything? |
| 02:58.44 | abrotman | mcurran: You can do whatever you want, it'll likely break .. good luck |
| 02:58.53 | mcurran | zinx: easier to pay nvidia a 100 to fix it, or just buy a better one off ebay. |
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| 02:59.02 | abrotman | mcurran: maybe you shuld stop intentionlly trying to break things, and just use the OS |
| 02:59.10 | mcurran | 100 bucks must get you a 600 generation at least now right |
| 02:59.12 | ranix | mcurran: this is a problem you fix by hammering on your keyboard with your fists until it works |
| 02:59.19 | mcurran | :) |
| 02:59.26 | mcurran | love gnome dev |
| 02:59.27 | zinx | mcurran: dunno, i'm rockin' a GTX 460 in my computer. |
| 02:59.29 | ranix | mcurran: just install the packages you want and uninstall everything else |
| 02:59.37 | mcurran | anyone know if gdm3 is still broken at bleeding edge/ |
| 02:59.41 | abrotman | TRY IT |
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| 02:59.45 | abrotman | CHECK THE BTS |
| 02:59.57 | mcurran | 'BTS'? |
| 03:00.03 | ranix | lol |
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| 03:00.28 | zinx | mcurran: that one was probably because you're running testing without knowing what the BTS is :x |
| 03:00.56 | ranix | <3 abrotman |
| 03:01.11 | ranix | 15 years later and still givin' em the tough love |
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| 03:03.11 | houn | Aw, running commands from xfce keyboard shortcuts doesn't do aliases. |
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| 03:07.19 | BackEndCoder | man, the last 10 mins in here was just epic :D |
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| 03:07.47 | \Tau | why in name of christ my print screen key isn't working in this last debian version ? |
| 03:08.21 | zinx | what's a printscreen key? oh, you mean sysrq key? |
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| 03:09.06 | dvs | zinx: PrtSc usually |
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| 03:42.51 | alesan | hi, is apache the only httpd available on Debian? or can I use a more lightweight one, I do not need much capabilities |
| 03:43.35 | centrx | alesan, There are several. nginx is a popular lighter-weight one. How light-weight do you need? |
| 03:43.53 | \Tau | when i press print screen key it doesnt take a print screen. |
| 03:43.54 | alesan | this will be installed on an embedded armhf device |
| 03:44.04 | \Tau | which app should i be running in order to print screen my desktop? |
| 03:44.36 | alesan | it is fairly capable, but I only need to run a webserver as an interface to some configuration/admin services that I am implementing |
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| 03:44.54 | alesan | so it would be a "single user" kind of webserver, if this makes sense |
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| 03:46.52 | centrx | alesan, Might want to go with one used with your development |
| 03:47.08 | centrx | alesan, But nginx and lighthttpd are the lightweight ones I know |
| 03:47.14 | centrx | of |
| 03:47.26 | alesan | centrx, this will be an interface to "at" |
| 03:47.43 | alesan | it will show the "at" jobs that are scheduled and allow to remove/add others |
| 03:48.01 | centrx | \Tau You might want to change your nick to remove the backslash |
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| 03:49.45 | centrx | alesan, Yeah I'm not familiar enough with the space to know what would be the best for an embedded arm device. nginx and lighttpd are popular lightweight httpds |
| 03:50.41 | alesan | centrx, I will look for lighttpd first, the name looks fine |
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| 04:01.51 | Xen_ | SUP |
| 04:02.22 | sigmatek | I'm new to bug reporting but not Linux in general. I am using jessie as my main OS now, and there is a bug on which I would like to give more info on but i'm not so familiar with the procedures |
| 04:03.14 | dondelelcaro | sigmatek: basically, you should install and run reportbug and follow the prompts |
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| 04:03.39 | centrx | sigmatek, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
| 04:04.12 | dondelelcaro | (and if that url isn't clear enough, let me know) |
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| 04:04.31 | zykotick9 | sigmatek: the largest issue, can sometimes be determining what package you should report against |
| 04:07.39 | sigmatek | dondelelcaro, I did reportbug --template fglrx-driver but the output from dmesg is much larger (4000 lines). Should I also archive that file when replying to the bug report ? |
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| 04:09.11 | sigmatek | dondelelcaro, i am reading the page now, thanks |
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| 04:13.36 | jkister | i'm running Debian7.4 on two GA-970a-d3p motherboards (built in Realtek nic). if I have the IOMMU controller disabled in the bios, then my ethernet is detected but doesnt work (ifconfig -a shows eth0 with plenty of RX but no TX). If i enable the IOMMU controller, the ethernet starts working but i get very slow disk IO and hundreds of errors on the console "AMD-Vi: Completion-Wait loop timed |
| 04:13.36 | jkister | out". any clue what i should be looking at ? |
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| 04:15.23 | jordanm | jkister: I would give the backports kernel a try |
| 04:15.39 | jordanm | jkister: just with hopes that any kernel bugs related to your hardware are resolved in newer versions |
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| 04:16.11 | Rusty1 | jkister: if there is an update bios firmware for the bios on the mobo manufacturers support site? |
| 04:16.27 | jkister | no bios updates Rusty1. |
| 04:16.34 | jkister | looking at backports/kernel jordanm |
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| 04:45.04 | acu | I suddenly find that dnsname command gives me command not found - ridiculous, I used it in other wheezy machine, why is dissapeared |
| 04:45.11 | acu | !dnsname |
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| 04:55.56 | themill | acu: maybe you should install a package that has it? |
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| 05:20.41 | bray9082_ | can someone help me |
| 05:20.44 | bray9082_ | Can someone help me here i am trying to Create a single command that uses the grep utility to searchforthe acronym EOF in all files within the current working directory. This command should redirect and append standard output to a file called results.txt and the error output to a file called error.txt. |
| 05:24.21 | centrx | bray9082_, Something like: grep -r EOF * 1> results.txt 2> error.txt |
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| 05:25.27 | dagerik | in installer i forgot to tick desktop environment. how can i install it |
| 05:25.39 | dagerik | the default one which the installer would have installed |
| 05:26.00 | centrx | dagerik, apt-get install task-desktop |
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| 05:35.26 | bray9082_ | centrx: wouldn't i need a double >> to append |
| 05:35.38 | centrx | bray9082_, Good point |
| 05:35.53 | bray9082_ | so i should be using >> right? |
| 05:35.58 | centrx | Yes |
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| 05:36.45 | bray9082_ | ok |
| 05:37.17 | bray9082_ | centrx: I have 2 more questions maybe 3 if that is ok |
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| 05:37.45 | bray9082_ | Create a single command that uses the grep utility to search for the acronym EXIT in all files within the current working directory. This command should redirect standard and error output to a file called exitlogs.txt. |
| 05:38.22 | centrx | This sounds like homework |
| 05:38.39 | bazhang | it is |
| 05:38.53 | centrx | Then you should try to learn it |
| 05:39.04 | bullgard4 | [Wheezy] When I command hibernating, I sometimes obtain the message: "1 Task refusing fo freeze." What program does issue this message? |
| 05:39.28 | centrx | bazhang, Oh you're a different person :) |
| 05:39.42 | centrx | all these b* nicks |
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| 05:43.12 | bray9082_ | centrx: it is homework |
| 05:43.32 | bray9082_ | And i should try to learn it |
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| 08:02.23 | Tasab | hi everyone , have been stuck (grub loader) tried to fix but problem : hd8 can not get C/H/S values , how can i resolve pls - thanx |
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| 08:11.53 | lei | hi guys. is there anyone familiar with deeper knowledge regarding reboot process on debian? especially the differences between fedora and debian? |
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| 08:12.29 | bhuddah | !ask |
| 08:12.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:12.55 | bhuddah | and good morning :) |
| 08:13.14 | lei | bhuddah, morning :) |
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| 08:16.18 | DDAZZA | Im going to be doing a remote pairing session with using ssh and tmux with somebody I don't know. Is it possible to restrict them to a single directory. |
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| 08:18.32 | lei | I use QEMU + SLOF (an open firmware) try to install ubuntu guest on power platform, found that the ubuntu guest would be crushed after reboot the guest, but fedora does not has such problem. Now I am trying to dig into it, but have no idea the difference between fedora and debian reboot process, so I could find the way should be headed. hope someone could show some light here, would be very thankful. |
| 08:18.51 | bhuddah | don't do that if it's a productive system, DDAZZA |
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| 08:21.32 | lei | the very apparent error showed that it's caused by failure loading of disk |
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| 08:22.32 | bhuddah | lei: i don't really know how to help here. but i guess more information about the error would be helpful. what power platform is it exactly? an old mac? |
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| 08:24.26 | eee__ | so i got 32 bit version of fadein to run on another 64 bit system by enabling the i386 arch |
| 08:24.36 | eee__ | but on this machine i get fadein: error while loading shared libraries: libSM.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 08:24.50 | eee__ | what Iam missing? |
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| 08:25.36 | petern_ | libSM.so.6, I'd guess. |
| 08:25.53 | lei | bhuddah, it's ppc64. the error actually popped by QEMU virtio disk, my guess for now is that there is something wrong with the rebooting process of debian so that QEMU or SLOF did not cleanup some area that should. |
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| 08:26.27 | lei | which caused the virtio disk can not be loaded |
| 08:26.30 | eee__ | petern_, yeah, got it. |
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| 08:27.26 | lei | I did some search work, seems rare info regarding the reboot process on debian. |
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| 08:30.10 | lei | and I found that seems debian has a different kernel compared to the upsteam/pristine one, I followed the guide on debian wiki checkout the svn trunk of kernel, but seems no source code there, did I do anything wrong? |
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| 08:30.41 | bhuddah | lei: i hope you'll find somebody to help you here. i never had a ppc so i can't tell anything about that. |
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| 08:33.00 | lei | bhuddah, yeah, I don't expect someone could have experience on ppc, and I know it's a very trick problem. anyway thanks for your kind reply. :) |
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| 08:34.41 | LaptopBrain | is it just me or are the default volume sizes for llvm a bit silly if you let debian choose in its installer? |
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| 08:35.13 | LaptopBrain | i installed a box and said seperate partition for /home, disk was 2tb. it created a 10 *gigabyte* / partition, that i promptly ran out of space on. |
| 08:35.16 | LaptopBrain | seriously, 10gb? |
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| 08:35.38 | LaptopBrain | ive since resized the volumes to have a 200gb / partition which is a bit more sensible imho |
| 08:35.59 | nwe | does someone know how I can change language for a user via dbus? |
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| 08:36.23 | LaptopBrain | however in doing so, i did lose the entire contents of /home as it wouldnt let me resize2fs downwards without corrupting the fs |
| 08:36.39 | LaptopBrain | not to worry though, everything on there was backed up, still... an annoyance |
| 08:38.21 | nwe | I using ligthdm. |
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| 08:53.44 | lei | is debian little endian or big endian? |
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| 08:55.47 | trewas | lei: processors are little or big endian, not operating systems, but I think that almost everything is little endian nowadays |
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| 08:56.15 | lei | trewas, yeah, you are right! thx |
| 08:56.25 | Morou_ | Hi A/all |
| 08:57.01 | lei | trewas, say the processor is big endian, does debian support it well? |
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| 08:58.41 | emss | lei https://www.debian.org/ports/ |
| 08:58.43 | trewas | lei: sure, ppc for example is big endian and works fine |
| 08:59.13 | lei | trewas, thanks! |
| 08:59.23 | lei | emass, and thanks for your link :) |
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| 08:59.46 | lei | emss, sorry for my typo :( |
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| 09:02.14 | no_gravity | Strange, I banned an ip via "fail2ban-client set ssh banip 123.123.123.123" but in "iptables -L" there is nothing. Am I thinking wrong somehow? |
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| 09:05.08 | emss | no_gravity i don't know fail2ban-client but maybe it banned changing sshd's configuration/rule ... |
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| 09:06.17 | no_gravity | emss: hmm... i would be surprised if that was the case. |
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| 09:07.18 | shingouz | no_gravity: also not familiar with fail2ban, but check your hosts.deny file |
| 09:09.10 | no_gravity | shingouz: only comments in that file |
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| 09:12.10 | shingouz | no_gravity: if you want to ban ip's with lots of failed ssh login attempts, denyhosts seem to work at least on my computers. no iptables needed, it writes all the bans in hosts.deny |
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| 09:14.42 | no_gravity | shingouz: its someone running a broken crawler on my machine right now. i was hoping manually putting his ip into fail2ban would ban him for an hour and then unban the ip automatically. |
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| 09:15.52 | no_gravity | it also does not show up in /var/log/fail2ban.log |
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| 09:17.28 | shingouz | no_gravity: apparently fail2ban does not see it. just slap his ip in the hosts.deny and remove the deny when you get around to it. for a single instance, i do not see the need for any advanced scripting |
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| 09:21.45 | no_gravity | shingouz: i would prefer not to have to manually remove the entry again |
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| 09:23.05 | no_gravity | shingouz: but ok, i put his ip there. |
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| 09:23.21 | no_gravity | shingouz: is that all i have to do? will the connection attempts be logged somewhere? |
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| 09:28.29 | shingouz | no_gravity: auth.log should see them |
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| 09:30.25 | shingouz | no_gravity: grep -i login /var/log/auth.log and you can get all the login attempts |
| 09:30.50 | kybos_def | I have upgraded from Wheeyz to Jessie, and while "apt-get upgrade" was active there were some configuration files, that had to be modified because they were changed by maintainers. |
| 09:31.14 | kybos_def | like (/etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/nginx/sites-available/default, /etc/php5/fpm/php.ini, ...) |
| 09:31.32 | no_gravity | shingouz: login? this is about http access |
| 09:31.55 | kybos_def | that were many files, and I would like to review them and adjust them to my needs. But where can I see which files were replaced? I cannot find any information in /var/log/apt/history.log. Where is that information log stored? |
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| 09:33.06 | Brigo | kybos_def, it should be a backup of modified files |
| 09:33.08 | shingouz | <no_gravity> Strange, I banned an ip via "fail2ban-client set ssh banip 123.123.123.123" but in "iptables -L" there is nothing. Am I thinking wrong somehow?.... yes, no_gravity, you are thinking wrong. you try to ban ssh and want to ban http |
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| 09:34.09 | no_gravity | shingouz: hmm... i was hoping that the ssh jail would block access to all ports. why should assholes have *any* business on the machine. |
| 09:34.32 | no_gravity | shingouz: and thats the only jail i have. |
| 09:34.52 | shingouz | no_gravity: i suspect your httpd would log something somewhere if you have enabled logging on it. blocking ssh access does exactly that, nothing else. |
| 09:36.16 | no_gravity | shingouz: well, i thought fail2ban bans should always show up in iptables. maybe im wrong. |
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| 09:36.58 | Brigo | no_gravity, if you are using iptables, yes. |
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| 09:37.41 | kybos_def | Brigo: sure, there is a backup. But how do I remember how many files were modified? They were over 10 files. I would like to review them |
| 09:38.01 | no_gravity | Brigo: the jail.local says that the default action is "banaction = iptables-multiport" and the ssh jail does not overwrite this. |
| 09:39.17 | no_gravity | Brigo: So why does "fail2ban-client set ssh banip 123.123.123.123" not ban anything? |
| 09:39.21 | Brigo | no_gravity, the i think i remember than any bans creates an iptable rule. |
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| 09:41.02 | Brigo | sorry, it looks like you questios was too much for my irc client :) |
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| 09:41.29 | Brigo | no_gravity, and sorry but i have never used fail2ban-client, so i am not sure. |
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| 09:42.20 | no_gravity | Brigo: googling for it brings up a couple of people with the same problem, but no solution. |
| 09:44.04 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.25 | no_gravity | Brigo: here someone says its a bug: http://sourceforge.net/p/fail2ban/mailman/message/32030138/ |
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| 09:46.21 | Brigo | did you search in bugtrack? |
| 09:46.38 | no_gravity | Brigo: no idea what that is. how do i find out which fail2ban version i have? |
| 09:47.11 | Brigo | are you using stable? |
| 09:47.20 | Brigo | ,v fial2ban |
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| 09:47.21 | judd | No package named 'fial2ban' was found in i386. |
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| 09:47.27 | Brigo | ,v fail2ban |
| 09:47.28 | judd | Package: fail2ban on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 0.8.6-3wheezy1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.6-3wheezy2; wheezy-security: 0.8.6-3wheezy2; jessie: 0.8.11-1; sid: 0.8.11-1 |
| 09:47.43 | wols | no_gravity: dpkg -l fail2ban |
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| 09:48.53 | no_gravity | cat /etc/debian_version says 6.0.8 |
| 09:49.36 | no_gravity | wols: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2 |
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| 09:56.37 | Brigo | no_gravity, yes it is a open bug: http://sourceforge.net/p/fail2ban/bugs/48/ |
| 09:57.53 | no_gravity | Brigo: yupp |
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| 09:58.28 | no_gravity | Brigo: also here with workaround: https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/issues/45 |
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| 10:00.27 | Brigo | touch the logs, amazin! :) |
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| 10:00.50 | no_gravity | :) |
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| 10:03.42 | no_gravity | Brigo: AND run the command max_retry times :) |
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| 10:11.37 | Tasab | hello , how i can fix thie : hd8 can not get C/H/S values - o/s debian wheezt & win7 |
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| 10:15.20 | kybos_def | Brigo: I have found a way "find / -name \*.dpkg-old -mtime -1" |
| 10:15.42 | maxi_ | hey i found this : https://packages.debian.org/jessie/php5 does it mean i can get php 5.5.9 on wheezy ? |
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| 10:16.31 | Brigo | ,v php5 |
| 10:16.32 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u8; jessie: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.9+dfsg-1; experimental: 5.6.0~alpha2+dfsg-1 |
| 10:17.32 | Brigo | maxi_, why do you think so? |
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| 10:21.11 | maxi_ | Brigo i can not backtrack it? to my wheezy ? |
| 10:21.18 | maxi_ | brigo backport i mean |
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| 10:22.01 | Brigo | maxi_, you can if you know how, but it is not a good idea. |
| 10:22.28 | Brigo | why do you need it? |
| 10:22.39 | wols | maxi_: not really. if you could easily backport, it would already be in wheezy backports. what do you need 5.5 for? |
| 10:22.40 | maxi_ | Brigo for my application code to work properly |
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| 10:22.49 | maxi_ | Brigo i using many 5.5 functions |
| 10:23.50 | maxi_ | locally im using dotdeb |
| 10:25.10 | Brigo | if you try to install php5 package from jessi in wheezy it will fail because dependencies. If you try to install all needed dependencies you will end in jessi, so the onlyone solution is to compile it for yourself. |
| 10:27.29 | zen__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:28.33 | maxi_ | Brigo if i use a third party like dotdeb and than when backports start be possible i will remove the dotdeb php |
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| 10:29.07 | irgendwer4711 | hi, how to use debtree to generate a graph with all installed packages? |
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| 10:30.24 | Brigo | maxi_, well this is a dotdeb related problem, but usually yes. You always can do apt-get remove php5. |
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| 10:31.08 | corsu | Hi |
| 10:32.26 | maxi_ | Brigo i will use aptitude since i have read it's better for beginner becuase when you remove it will also remove all the stuff that comes with the package i mean dependencies ... and with apt-get it will stay in the system unneeded |
| 10:32.50 | corsu | I was fighting with Debian wheezy 7.4 and Shorewall ulog problem and found a sholution. I needed to use ulogd2 from sid because its not in stable, why? And point shorewall.conf info -> NFLOG and LOGFILE=/var/log/ulog/syslogemu.log because point it to my own file does not seem to work... |
| 10:32.54 | Brigo | maxi_, ok. |
| 10:33.49 | corsu | Is there another way to log to file in shorewall in Debian wheezy. Or better way to get ulogd2? |
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| 10:37.35 | irgendwer4711 | nobody familiar debtree? |
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| 10:41.37 | Morou | Hi do you prefere debian unstable on desktop/laptop? or betteri is testing ? |
| 10:41.59 | _mel_ | Hi. i have a quick question. i use sudo to run a bash script as root. within it i have a scp witch can't access the public key file. so it seams to me the script doesn't run as root. how can i run this script as root |
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| 10:42.17 | _mel_ | /etc/sudoerrs is correct |
| 10:42.37 | OpenTokix | _mel_: ssh is also very concerned about the owner of sshkeys. - So if your key is owned by user: foo, root will not use it for credentials |
| 10:43.05 | _mel_ | OpenTokix: the key is owned by root |
| 10:43.15 | OpenTokix | _mel_: ok |
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| 10:43.58 | modem | _mel_, the $HOME variable is from the running sudo user |
| 10:44.04 | netadmin | root will take the keys is /root/.ssh/ |
| 10:44.16 | _mel_ | i start ssh with -i $KEYFILE |
| 10:44.24 | modem | _mel_, it's also a bad idee to have a script shell as a root "suid" like from security point of view. |
| 10:44.26 | netadmin | _mel_: ok |
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| 10:46.12 | _mel_ | modem: i know. but is the script run as user root? if i start as as root, everything works fine. but with sudo i get the key permission error |
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| 10:51.58 | musca | irgendwer4711: package="insertyourpackagehere" debtree --show-installed "$package" | dot -Tpng > "$package".png ; xdg-open "$package".png |
| 10:52.52 | musca | irgendwer4711: beware, this will possibly overwrite png files in the working directory |
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| 10:54.40 | _mel_ | if i create a file in the ssh dire (like with touch) it is owned by root |
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| 10:55.29 | Brigo | _mel_, it is owned for the user who creates it. |
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| 10:59.51 | bstarek | hello all |
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| 11:01.42 | DanteLA | I need a package not in wheezy repositories (libgdl-1). I see a version in squeeze reps, should I install it from there manually or is thera better way? |
| 11:03.12 | nkuttler | ,v libgdl-1 |
| 11:03.14 | judd | No package named 'libgdl-1' was found in i386. |
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| 11:03.47 | DanteLA | https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libgdl-1-3 |
| 11:03.55 | nkuttler | ,v libgdl-1-3 |
| 11:03.57 | judd | Package: libgdl-1-3 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.30.1-1 |
| 11:04.10 | nkuttler | DanteLA: why do you need that specific version? |
| 11:04.21 | DanteLA | nkuttler: Because I am trying to compile a program that depends on it |
| 11:04.56 | DanteLA | I doubt symlinking libgdl-3 .so to libgld-1 .so will work |
| 11:05.51 | nkuttler | DanteLA: it sounds like a bad idea, but if you really must use what sounds like an outdated app, you could try to forward-port the lib |
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| 11:09.36 | DexterF | hi |
| 11:10.02 | DexterF | where is the place to run a command one-time-at-X-start only, independent of the dekstop environment used? |
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| 11:14.51 | DanteLA | How can I extract a .deb file? |
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| 11:15.57 | DanteLA | ok, ar |
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| 11:16.58 | Tasab | grub loader problem , how can i resolve it -hav 2 o/s debian & win7 , tks |
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| 11:17.32 | bazhang | try #grub Tasab |
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| 11:21.03 | bazhang | sure there is |
| 11:22.05 | corsu | Is LOGMARK supported in Debian wheezy 7.4 or is it as hard to get working as ULOG and NFLOG? |
| 11:22.21 | irgendwer4711 | musca: hi, I want to create a graph for all packages on this maschine |
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| 11:34.07 | dFence | hey guys! Tried to upgrade the phpMyAdmin installed by debian to the newest one (4.1.9) - I backed up the old /usr/share/phpmyadmin, extracted the new files to the same dir and changed the vendor_config -- PMA still thinks it's on the old version, any idea why / how to fix it? |
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| 11:36.41 | Brigo | DanteLA, or dpkg -X |
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| 11:37.33 | malthe | is there an established mechanism for updating apt source to releases before some date. |
| 11:38.01 | malthe | use-case ... testing upgrades in a staging environment, record the date and upgrade packages in production using this date as a filter. |
| 11:38.05 | Brigo | dFence, this is not the way. |
| 11:38.34 | Brigo | dFence, there is a lot of pnpmyadmin out fo /usr/share/myadmin, for example in /etc. |
| 11:38.40 | petern_ | malthe, what i do is automatically download every update but do not install them |
| 11:38.54 | petern_ | malthe, then i can do the testing and install later |
| 11:39.25 | petern_ | although, probably doesn't work a package gets updated in the meantime |
| 11:39.43 | Brigo | ,v phpmyadmin |
| 11:39.44 | judd | Package: phpmyadmin on i386 -- squeeze: 4:3.3.7-7; squeeze-security: 4:3.3.7-7; wheezy: 4:3.4.11.1-2; jessie: 4:4.1.9-1; sid: 4:4.1.9-1 |
| 11:39.44 | petern_ | malthe, i guess you might want your own local repo which only contains approved updates |
| 11:39.48 | dFence | Brigo: turns out it was the webserver looking for it in the wrong folder -_-; that's why I copied the debian 'vendor_config.inc' to the new one, it points PMA to the config in /etc/phpmyadmin etc |
| 11:39.50 | malthe | I guess you could download every package, and then symlink them into directories: |
| 11:40.03 | malthe | such as /2014/mar/19/... |
| 11:40.21 | petern_ | malthe, the deb files themselves are already versioned |
| 11:40.22 | malthe | petern_, yeah I already use apt-cacher-ng which works nicely as a proxy. |
| 11:40.34 | malthe | I guess I just need to patch that system to somehow filter on date |
| 11:40.47 | petern_ | i hold packages not to install yet |
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| 11:41.54 | Brigo | dFence, a) why don you remove the debian phpmyadmin package? b) If you install sofware not package in debian you will lost our support. |
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| 11:55.27 | martin-_-_ | hey i cant change my resolution higher then 1024x768 |
| 11:55.27 | martin-_-_ | how can i solve this? |
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| 11:56.05 | wols | you probably use the vesa driver right now. what videochip do you have? |
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| 11:57.33 | acu | what should I use to share screen in lxde ? |
| 11:58.07 | Brigo | acu, vnc, for example |
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| 12:03.56 | BitPuffin | Hello |
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| 12:04.17 | BitPuffin | I'm trying to setup reverse DNS so that email agents can check that the domain gives back the same ip |
| 12:04.20 | BitPuffin | how do I do this in debian? |
| 12:04.35 | wols | BitPuffin: what DNS server are you running? |
| 12:04.44 | BitPuffin | apparently I have to use a PTR record |
| 12:04.47 | BitPuffin | wols: on the server? |
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| 12:05.26 | BitPuffin | ah wait |
| 12:05.28 | BitPuffin | I see |
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| 12:06.15 | BitPuffin | it's because I didn't set the same hostname as the domain when I created the vps |
| 12:06.47 | Beliq | Would it be possible to make custom LXDE to look similar XBMC? |
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| 12:07.21 | BitPuffin | Beliq: why? |
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| 12:08.15 | Beliq | BitPuffin I wanna build media box for TV based |
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| 12:08.32 | BitPuffin | Beliq: okay but why not just use xbmc then? :P |
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| 12:09.41 | Beliq | so far I am loading just Chrome kiosk in xinit and use Nodejs to display the clinet. I just want to add system wide camera use. |
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| 12:10.27 | Beliq | I don't really need xbmc, just to render multiple programs under one interface |
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| 12:10.32 | no_gravity | Any native english speakers here? How do you call usb-sticks? flash-drives? flash-sticks? |
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| 12:11.44 | talin | hello. are there any articles on debian and ntp anywhere? i can only find a page that is not responding: https://wiki.debian.org/NTP |
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| 12:12.14 | babilen | talin: The wiki should work fine |
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| 12:15.10 | DammitJim | how do I know when a samba share allows for a user to use the system password vs the samba password? |
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| 12:17.00 | makkan | I'm trying to get proper display of ansi/ascii blocks in virtual console but I'm not really having any luck. Does anyone know how to get proper display ansi art like this (but in color)? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/ASCII_notepad_acidview_compare.png |
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| 12:17.49 | malthe | petern_, ideally, I would have something like: |
| 12:17.49 | malthe | # cat /etc/apt/preferences |
| 12:17.49 | malthe | Package: * |
| 12:17.49 | malthe | Pin: release-date n=2014-03-18T12:00:00Z |
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| 12:18.28 | malthe | irc is so archaic |
| 12:19.06 | malthe | debhelper, why would you be configured to kick someone for typing 4 lines. |
| 12:19.17 | martin-_-_ | ^^ |
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| 12:20.25 | jdabinett | because pastebin? |
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| 12:20.41 | jdabinett | if other people are speaking, it's annoying to have someone multipaste in the middle of a discussion |
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| 12:21.14 | martin-_-_ | but there weren't other people speaking :> |
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| 12:21.44 | jdabinett | true |
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| 12:22.53 | malthe | yeah exactly; I find that pastebins .. when noone else is speaking, putting a *very short* example in irc allows other people to scan it easily. |
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| 12:23.08 | malthe | but I digress ... according to this bug, apt-pinning is broken either way: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685215 |
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| 12:26.13 | abrotman | flooding a channel is never approrpiate, unless it's named #flood :) |
| 12:26.33 | ichthys | is it more secure to use a password or ssh key with a script to ssh into another machine? |
| 12:27.00 | abrotman | ichthys: probably the key |
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| 12:27.39 | ichthys | abrotman: is it safe enough to just use a passwordless ssh key? |
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| 12:27.47 | metal55 | Hello all |
| 12:28.03 | abrotman | ichthys: that depends on your network and the use case |
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| 12:28.20 | metal55 | How can I find out what version of JAVA I have in my Debian installation |
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| 12:28.41 | ichthys | abrotman: my one server cannot send out smtp emails, so I was to run a script to ssh into another box and send an email alert |
| 12:29.05 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ichthys about smarthost |
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| 12:29.11 | Brigo | metal55, java --version? |
| 12:29.11 | crafty1_ | metal55: java -version |
| 12:29.54 | metal55 | Brigo: crafty1_: Thanks guys, ... says command not found. I thought OpenJDK was always htere |
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| 12:31.03 | metal55 | Whats the essayist way to instal Java in Debian. |
| 12:31.12 | crafty1_ | metal55: apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk |
| 12:31.33 | metal55 | crafty1_: Thanks! |
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| 12:31.51 | crafty1_ | np |
| 12:31.54 | ichthys | abrotman: im trying to send an email from my busybox ubiquiti UAP which does not have sendmail or any smtp software. so i want to make a script to ssh into a debian box and send the email |
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| 12:33.08 | abrotman | ah okay |
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| 12:37.43 | Trevelyan | In debian there is leds-alix-source package for the PCengine ALIX board. Well recently pcengine have released a new board based on the AMD APU CPU. I've created a new leds-pcengines-apu-source package. |
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| 12:37.54 | atannus | I like jessie much more than wheezy. |
| 12:38.01 | Trevelyan | I say this because I thought it might interest others to have? |
| 12:38.29 | Trevelyan | would debian carry such a package? |
| 12:38.48 | Brigo | ichthys, may be this is usufull for you: http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html |
| 12:39.20 | abrotman | Trevelyan: you can file an RFP |
| 12:39.47 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Trevelyan about rfp |
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| 12:40.43 | ichthys | Brigo: I tried sending an email using telnet on the Unifi UAP-PRO, it doesnt seem to work. i dont get any messages like 250 OK, etc after i telnet into our mail server (and i have successfully used telnet to send emails from other machines here) |
| 12:41.15 | Brigo | ichthys, bad luck so :) |
| 12:41.25 | ichthys | Brigo: yerp :| |
| 12:41.42 | ichthys | Brigo: But i can ssh into anohter box and telnet |
| 12:41.52 | ichthys | thats what im trying to do, or use ssmtp or sendmail |
| 12:42.04 | ichthys | i am just wondering what is the securest way to ssh into another box via a script |
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| 12:42.36 | Brigo | ichthys, yes, i readed you. I think keys will be ok. |
| 12:43.10 | Trevelyan | Do I do a RFP if I already built the package? Maybe I miss read something. |
| 12:43.12 | ichthys | Brigo: Awesome, so the key will be secure enough. I appreciate it. I just don't want to do something I will regret later, or get into trouble for ;) |
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| 12:44.57 | Brigo | Trevelyan, I think is a trust issue |
| 12:45.32 | Brigo | i think only debian maintainers can upload package to debian repos. |
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| 12:46.48 | abrotman | Brigo: no .. |
| 12:47.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Trevelyan about mentors |
| 12:47.51 | Brigo | abrotman, but i think he don't like to becomes a maintainers, he only wants to get his package in debian repos. |
| 12:48.02 | abrotman | Brigo: That's okay, you're still wrong. |
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| 12:48.37 | Brigo | :) |
| 12:48.37 | abrotman | Brigo: He can ask someone to upload for him, he already has the package |
| 12:48.50 | abrotman | it just has to pass QA, etc |
| 12:49.00 | abrotman | Brigo: Do you know how the Mentors stuff works? |
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| 12:49.47 | Brigo | i thouhgt ... :) |
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| 12:50.25 | Brigo | thought* |
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| 12:50.45 | abrotman | Brigo: Hopefully Trevelyan will go to #debian-mentors and ask how to get his package into Debian now. |
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| 12:51.29 | Brigo | So this is wrong? --> i think only debian maintainers can upload package to debian repos |
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| 12:52.56 | Trevelyan | only they can do it, but that does not mean they act as a proxy for someone else if they're happy with that person's package. Or so I understand |
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| 12:53.07 | abrotman | Brigo: There are DMs and DDs |
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| 12:53.12 | abrotman | and not all DDs have upload rights |
| 12:53.24 | jelly | Brigo: both "debian maintainer" and "debian developer" have a specific meaning |
| 12:53.25 | abrotman | hides from themill |
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| 12:53.57 | jelly | Brigo: and someone has to take responsibility for a package |
| 12:54.15 | Trevelyan | You know #debian-mentors seems to be a ghost town, 5 people including myself. Maybe it's the wrong time of day... |
| 12:54.22 | jelly | that mean a long-term commitment, not just dumping a package in the repo |
| 12:54.25 | abrotman | Trevelyan: on irc.oftc.net,not Freenode |
| 12:54.44 | abrotman | Trevelyan: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net has a few hundred people |
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| 12:55.48 | Brigo | well, thanks. I will try to read more. |
| 12:55.50 | Trevelyan | oh. I assumed irc.debian.net was a freenode alias |
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| 12:56.29 | abrotman | Trevelyan: not anymore |
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| 12:56.33 | jelly | Trevelyan: that alias has been pointing to oftc since 2006 |
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| 12:57.34 | jelly | er, sorry, that'd be irc.debian.org |
| 12:57.47 | jelly | there is no irc.debian.net |
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| 13:03.06 | Guest49530 | §yo |
| 13:03.14 | bambi | yo |
| 13:03.38 | repxxl | yo |
| 13:03.59 | repxxl | i think my deb,s are outdated where i can find the official deb mirrors ? |
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| 13:06.35 | abrotman | repxxl: for which version of Debian? |
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| 13:06.56 | repxxl | abrotman 7.0 wheezy 64x bit |
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| 13:07.05 | abrotman | dpkg: tell repxxl about wheezy sources.list |
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| 13:08.02 | repxxl | abrotman can i update my 7.0 to 7.4 ? |
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| 13:08.12 | abrotman | dpkg: tell repxxl about point release |
| 13:08.18 | bezaban | ,cve CVE-2012-0830 |
| 13:08.19 | repxxl | abrotman or when i run aptitude update it will do it |
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| 13:10.57 | repxxl | abrotman so like put the 3 mirrors in sources.list and than aptitude update and than aptitude full-upgrade right ? |
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| 13:11.08 | abrotman | repxxl: what did the bot tell you? |
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| 13:12.20 | repxxl | abrotman http://pastie.org/8947420 |
| 13:12.34 | abrotman | ... |
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| 13:14.54 | repxxl | Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list |
| 13:14.57 | repxxl | what means this ? |
| 13:15.06 | repxxl | deb-src do it need this ? |
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| 13:17.41 | wols | repxxl: only if you want to compile a package. you can check these others with e.g. /msg dpkg deb-src |
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| 13:19.13 | repxxl | i don't need to use sudo as a root logged user right ? |
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| 13:19.40 | jgrosman | Hi guys. |
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| 13:19.57 | Teltaria1 | Hello all. What's the best option for private package building and serving? |
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| 13:20.14 | jgrosman | Some problems, MBR seems to have problem. GRUB does not have priority upon Windows. Any idea? |
| 13:20.49 | abrotman | Teltariat: repropro is a good repository manager, not sure what you mean for package building? You mean in an automated way? |
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| 13:21.50 | jgrosman | I have UEFI and windows 8, before an update of both debian and windows, GRUB was handling everything. |
| 13:21.55 | crafty1_ | jgrosman: When I use Gentoo there is an option in grub.cfg that sats default 0. This is used to select which option grub will boot first. Not sure how editing in debian will go |
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| 13:23.47 | Rug | Howdy all |
| 13:23.56 | jgrosman | crafty1_: I'll check that! |
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| 13:24.38 | Teltariat | abrotman: Yes, correct - I'm wondering how best to have automated builds that fire when new packages or updates to package sources are detected |
| 13:24.40 | repxxl | full-upgrade from 7.0 to 7.4 will remove all my network preferences and other settings? |
| 13:24.55 | abrotman | repxxl: try it and see |
| 13:25.14 | crafty1_ | jgrosman: I havent fiddled with that in Debian but there is good documentation here http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10 |
| 13:25.15 | SirLagz | when I configure apt-pinning, do I need to do anything after placing a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ ? |
| 13:25.35 | abrotman | SirLagz: you have to 'update' |
| 13:25.39 | jelly | repxxl: if it did, it would be a bug |
| 13:25.43 | SirLagz | abrotman: thanks |
| 13:26.00 | repxxl | ok cool its just installing 74 packages cool :) |
| 13:26.00 | SirLagz | hm, I must be apt-pinning wrong |
| 13:26.03 | repxxl | seems fine by now |
| 13:26.08 | abrotman | Teltariat: I think most use pbuilder or sbuild |
| 13:26.28 | repxxl | how i can check my debian version than ? |
| 13:26.31 | Rug | I have a stupid challange I can't seem to overcome. I have a USB stick that has been partitioned as GPT. I need to format it as fat32, but everything I try (cgdisk, fdisk, gdisk, parted) keeps trying to 'respect' the GPT. How do I nuke this thing? if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb ??? |
| 13:26.59 | wols | yes |
| 13:27.39 | jelly | wols: surely not the whole thing? |
| 13:27.41 | frostschutz | you nuke the gpt with parted or gdisk. dd'ing the start of the drive is not sufficient since gpt keeps a backup around at the end as well |
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| 13:28.04 | wols | jelly: of course not. that would waste limited writes |
| 13:28.21 | crafty1_ | if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 ? |
| 13:28.41 | Teltariat | abrotman: thank you for the pointers |
| 13:28.52 | repxxl | how to check if i have 7.4 now ? is there a command?: |
| 13:29.01 | crafty1_ | lsb_release -a |
| 13:29.05 | Rug | frostschutz: I have used those tools, and deleted everything. then loaded up fdisk to create a new partition, but fdisk complains about it being a GPT device. |
| 13:29.43 | frostschutz | Rug, in parted, mklabel gpt should wipe the old gpt; then mklabel msdos should give you msdos partition. |
| 13:30.08 | Rug | frostschutz: thanks |
| 13:30.39 | crafty1_ | repxxl: lsb_release -a should tell you the Debian release |
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| 13:31.00 | repxxl | thx i already noticed it im doing a self documentation :) |
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| 13:33.35 | repxxl | when i use the official nginx debs ? deb http://nginx.org/packages/debian/ wheezy nginx it's ralated as third party deb and unsecure ? |
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| 13:34.39 | p3rror | hello |
| 13:34.47 | Xeppo | Hi there. |
| 13:34.54 | p3rror | How to limit traffic on an interface |
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| 13:35.04 | p3rror | per example I need to create tun device |
| 13:35.07 | repxxl | hm |
| 13:35.13 | p3rror | with a rate limit |
| 13:35.33 | Xeppo | tc or wondershaper? |
| 13:35.36 | p3rror | I need that the traffic on that interface wont reach 10G |
| 13:35.52 | themill | repxxl: you'd trust the opinions of random people on irc about whether some random repo is secure? |
| 13:36.05 | p3rror | Xeppo, wondershaper for limit download and upload |
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| 13:36.20 | p3rror | Xeppo, I need to limit montly traffic |
| 13:36.29 | repxxl | themill i just ask if it's also related as a third party repo when it's from the official nginx |
| 13:36.40 | Teltariat | *Woould anyone know if gbp maintain all packages within a single Git repository? |
| 13:36.58 | CissWit | repxxl: nginx is not related at all to debian, si yes it's a third party repository |
| 13:36.58 | themill | repxxl: the repo is not related to debian. |
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| 13:37.15 | Xeppo | p3error, I would think that would be rather complicated to set up properly. |
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| 13:37.41 | themill | Teltariat: I doubt it. You wouldn't really want to anyway, I don't think. |
| 13:38.27 | SirLagz | p3rror: iptables + script could do it |
| 13:38.39 | Xeppo | p3error, I think tc will do what you want it to do - but you'll need to be careful |
| 13:38.44 | p3rror | SirLagz, do you have any example |
| 13:38.49 | Teltariat | themill: I'm considering how to run a private packaging setup, and I think ideally I'd like to have all the packages in a single Git repo... thoughts? |
| 13:39.06 | SirLagz | p3rror: no sorry |
| 13:39.08 | Xeppo | p3error, if configured improperly, you'll just deny yourself access to your own server via the net |
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| 13:39.43 | SirLagz | p3rror: basic theory is use iptables to count the number of bytes through interface tun0. you'll need to record the stats somewhere |
| 13:39.50 | themill | Teltariat: I can't see any advantages in having everything in one repo but I can think of plenty of disadvantages (like not being able to tag releases) |
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| 13:39.57 | SirLagz | p3rror: and then have a script that reads the stats, and shut off tun0 when it hits the limit |
| 13:40.09 | p3rror | SirLagz, OK |
| 13:40.14 | p3rror | SirLagz, I see that |
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| 13:41.53 | repxxl | lets install some third party repos than on my production server :D i hope no hacker visits my site |
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| 13:48.21 | repxxl | can i find out from where i installed nginx on my local machine i don't remember |
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| 13:48.32 | repxxl | if it was official update or from other repo |
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| 13:48.45 | themill | repxxl: apt-cache policy $packagename |
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| 13:51.07 | repxxl | themill thx |
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| 13:51.34 | malik | hi. i do some automated installation/deinstallation of packages. some packages trigger ncurses stuff in the prerm, this makes things a little difficult. is there a way around this? |
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| 13:52.48 | repxxl | apt-get -t squeeze-backports install "package" what means this -t ? |
| 13:52.51 | themill | malik: which packages are asking questions in prerm? |
| 13:52.59 | themill | repxxl: apt-get has a man page |
| 13:53.08 | malik | themill: for example the kernel, in case it is the currently running kernel |
| 13:53.11 | repxxl | man page ? |
| 13:53.28 | jhw | repxxl: type man apt-get in a console |
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| 13:54.44 | syshape | hi |
| 13:54.50 | malik | themill: also some dictionary stuff i think ispell or something, i double check |
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| 13:56.13 | syshape | when as root I do # service something start, exported variables are not int the env of something, how is that ? |
| 13:56.51 | themill | syshape: that's precisely what service is there to do |
| 13:57.49 | themill | malik: some of these will be using debconf so you could preseed debconf values for them and set DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive. Some of them might fail horribly if they can't double check that you really want to something insane |
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| 13:58.25 | malik | themill: okay, i'll look into that. thanks |
| 13:58.34 | syshape | themill: oh right, just man service told me, thanks |
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| 14:03.45 | kryl | hi, how to sum memory of apache process in kb pls ? |
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| 14:05.14 | repxxl | what means aptitude -t ? |
| 14:05.28 | Xeppo | kryl: top? |
| 14:05.35 | repxxl | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:05.39 | repxxl | what does that mean |
| 14:05.51 | repxxl | ah ok i know now :D |
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| 14:07.18 | kryl | Xeppo, not in % if possible |
| 14:07.36 | sigmatek | hi, regarding /run/shm, can it be abused in a way that is constantly full ? Reason I am asking is that any user can write into it |
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| 14:08.26 | Xeppo | kryl: use ps instead? |
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| 14:09.59 | jordanm | sigmatek: any user can malloc() more ram too |
| 14:10.27 | raz | hmm weird.. a VPS of mine says on apt-get update: W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
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| 14:10.47 | locked | Does anyone know how to make your terminal support multi color |
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| 14:11.12 | locked | I'm using terminator btw |
| 14:11.18 | Xeppo | locked: try using tmux instead. it will revolutionize your life |
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| 14:11.29 | rfree2 | should this printer work well on debian, using only free software from debian repository? http://www.komputronik.pl/product/200905/Sprzet_komputerowy_/Peryferia/HP_DeskJet_1515_Ink_Advantage.html |
| 14:11.34 | locked | I'm too GNU to know how to even install that |
| 14:11.39 | rfree2 | HP DeskJet 1515 Ink Advantage B2L57C |
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| 14:11.54 | jdabinett | locked: that makes no sense |
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| 14:12.16 | Xeppo | locked: it will take a while to get used to, but it's awesome once you've gotten it down |
| 14:12.41 | locked | I just can't get mpdviz to support multicolor on my regular terminal |
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| 14:13.07 | locked | It uses my default colors instead of showing all the colors |
| 14:13.23 | os7een | is there a way I can see to which package was some other package installed as a dependency ? I know about aptitude why <package> command, but is there something more in detail like pactree command in arch linux that displays the whole package tree and links to other packages ? thanks |
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| 14:14.14 | DammitJim | I am writing some bash scripts for a server |
| 14:14.35 | DammitJim | and I'm thinking there should be a different user running these scripts (other than my user) |
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| 14:14.39 | DammitJim | how does one normally handle that? |
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| 14:14.58 | codekK | Hi all, i have a little question, how i can see what driver is actually using my system? |
| 14:14.59 | Teltariat | DammitJim: sudo |
| 14:15.28 | DammitJim | Teltariat, I mean... I don't want the script to have anything to do with my user on that server |
| 14:15.48 | Teltariat | DammitJim: is the script being kicked off directly in the terminal, or from cron, or how? |
| 14:15.50 | DammitJim | does one just create a support user or something and run the scripts as that user? |
| 14:15.50 | Xeppo | codekk: lsmod |
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| 14:16.06 | Teltariat | DammitJim: depends on what the script is supposed to do |
| 14:16.09 | DammitJim | Teltariat, it will probably run from a service |
| 14:16.20 | sigmatek | jordanm, well if it can be done, what is stopping someone from taking advantage of this ? |
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| 14:16.27 | Teltariat | DammitJim: then whatever user the service is running as will run the script as the same user |
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| 14:17.01 | DammitJim | Teltariat, I'm setting up the server for someone else to code polling of files from another server, but I am going down this hole where I'm only giving write access to that network mount to a particular user. That means that the script needs to be run as that user |
| 14:17.01 | kjs | I am attempting to install libgtest-dev on an amd64 box, now this installs only the source then I build the libs using apt-get install libgtest-dev then cd /usr/src/gtest && cmake CMakeLists.txt && make ** cp *.a /usr/lib this works fine for amd64 but is there a way to build for i386 on amd64 ? |
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| 14:18.16 | Walex | kjs: yes. |
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| 14:18.55 | kjs | Walex: could you point me in the right direction? |
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| 14:19.12 | codekK | Xeppo, hmm can u help me? i dont see my drivers :S http://paste.debian.net/88390/ |
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| 14:19.21 | Walex | kjs: BTW what you have done is perhaps not entirely a good idea. As a rule you should leave '/usr/lib' to only have files managed by DPKG. But you are a very experienced sysadming and developer, so you know what you are doing. |
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| 14:19.29 | xand | codekK: they are drivers down the left |
| 14:19.34 | Niemi | hi to all |
| 14:19.39 | Teltariat | DammitJim: does that user exist on both servers? Set up your /etc/sudoers so that the user the service runs as has the ability to run the script as the target user, say, theuser. Then you can do: sudo -u theuser /path/to/script |
| 14:19.39 | Walex | kjs: it is called cross-compiling. |
| 14:20.02 | Niemi | can anyone suggest more info about bridge util(not brctl) |
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| 14:20.28 | Teltariat | DammitJim: use visudo to configure /etc/sudoers |
| 14:20.51 | kjs | Walex: well i could move them else where... in theory. Does debian have a standard place for these, the deb install just gave me the source. |
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| 14:21.30 | kjs | in the past the deb install has always installed the libs / bins but i think upstream recommends they dont. |
| 14:21.34 | kjs | (google) |
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| 14:23.39 | Walex | kjs: the standard location for locally compiled, non-managed files is '/usr/local/'. Also it is rather perverse to get a Debian source package and not build a binary package from it. |
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| 14:24.20 | kjs | Walex: normally i would just do ./configure --build=i386 CXXFLAGS=-m32 && make - but I am unsure on how to do this from the debian source package. |
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| 14:25.32 | Niemi | hi to all |
| 14:25.38 | Niemi | can anyone suggest more info about bridge util(not brctl) |
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| 14:27.12 | jelly | Niemi: more than what's in /usr/share/doc/bridge-utils/ ? |
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| 14:28.53 | Niemi | jelly: yep |
| 14:29.28 | Walex | kjs: consider for example looking at https://wiki.debian.org/CrossBuildPackagingGuidelines and also look at 'dpkg-cross' for example |
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| 14:30.12 | jordanm | sigmatek: you can configure memeory limits in /etc/security/limits.conf |
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| 14:30.28 | kjs | Walex: ok |
| 14:30.29 | Niemi | bridge-utils doc is brctl |
| 14:30.49 | kjs | is there no way i can just tell cmake I want a i386 package ? |
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| 14:31.10 | Xeppo | codekk: all of those are drivers. |
| 14:31.29 | jelly | Niemi: well brctl is _the_ userspace tool there, what else do you want to know about |
| 14:31.41 | Xeppo | codekk: what are you looking for specifically? |
| 14:31.45 | Walex | kjs: Debian packages are built by the Debian packaging tools; they may invoke 'cmake' to build the files, and then they put the output into a package. |
| 14:31.57 | _mel_ | can i somehow prevent a single file from getting overwritten via apt? something like aptitude hold <single file>? |
| 14:32.20 | kjs | Walex: you are mistaken in this case. |
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| 14:32.35 | jelly | _mel_: read /msg dpkg divert |
| 14:33.12 | jelly | _mel_: assuming the file is part of a package, and not a config file |
| 14:33.29 | sigmatek | jordanm, thanks |
| 14:33.35 | _mel_ | jelly: yes. for example /usr/share/postgresql-common/init.d-functions |
| 14:33.55 | kjs | Walex: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libgtest-dev |
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| 14:34.53 | DammitJim | Teltariat, sorry about the delay... the user for the share is a different user (it's a windows domain user) |
| 14:35.32 | DammitJim | I'm just trying to wrap my head around all this 'who does what and how?" |
| 14:35.49 | _mel_ | jelly: is dpkg-divert permanent or executed via apt-get upgrade? |
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| 14:36.38 | DammitJim | the other thing I didn't want is for people to start logging in as the user who is supposed to run the script because I can't track who is making changes |
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| 14:40.32 | Teltariat | DammitJim: you said that the script is meant to be kicked off by the service. If the service runs as user svcuser, then when it executes the script, the script will run as svcuser. If you want the service to run the script as a different user, say "myuser", then the script can do "sudo -u myuser /path/to/script" to run the script as "myuser" instead. To make that happen, you need to edit your sudo policy, which you so wit |
| 14:41.20 | DammitJim | thanks, I think I'm kinda getting the hang of it |
| 14:41.33 | DammitJim | I probably need to sync up with the developer of the application/service |
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| 14:43.18 | jelly | _mel_: until you remove it |
| 14:43.20 | Pendrag0n | well, I know this isn't a belkin channel, but there isn't a belkin channel, mind if I ask fellow server users if any of you have ever had the same KVM issue I am having |
| 14:44.18 | Pendrag0n | I have a KVM plugged into 2 servers, the lights on the KVM are yellow and green, the monitor out cables are yellow and green. When I am on the green server the keyboard controls the yellow server, when I am on the yellow server, the keyboard controls the green server, any ideas? |
| 14:44.37 | Rug | Pendrag0n: swap the cables? |
| 14:45.13 | Pendrag0n | they are attached to the monitor cables, and only 6 inches long |
| 14:46.04 | Pendrag0n | that would seem like an easy solution, but the 3 foot long vid cable has a vga output, and a little 6 inch usb2 output for the keyboard, thus, I am sure I don't have the cables backwards |
| 14:46.16 | Pendrag0n | the usb cables won't even reach the wrong server |
| 14:46.17 | Rug | Pendrag0n: can you 'reboot' the KVM? unplug everything and then reattach one at a time? |
| 14:46.37 | Rug | It's the KVM that is messed up not the cables, |
| 14:46.41 | SirLagz | Pendrag0n: get some USB extensions ? |
| 14:46.43 | Pendrag0n | naw, it doesn't take power, all I can do is un hook it and re connect wires, which I've tried a few times |
| 14:47.06 | Rug | Pendrag0n: ahh Unpowered... the root of all evil. |
| 14:47.07 | repxxl | anyone here using dotdeb ? |
| 14:47.23 | SirLagz | Rug: I'm using unpowered kvms...am I evil now ? lol |
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| 14:47.29 | Pendrag0n | SIrLagz, the extensions thing would work |
| 14:47.37 | Niemi | jelly: not, bridge is part of iproute2 |
| 14:47.42 | Rug | SirLagz: you work for evil. It's a close but distince difference |
| 14:47.52 | Rug | distinct* |
| 14:47.53 | SirLagz | Rug: haha |
| 14:48.22 | Pendrag0n | just seems like a huge bandaide solution, I mean the cables are the length they are so I can't plug them in wrong, but it is busted internally or something, and they are switched, so now I must plug it in wrong for it to work? just seems like maybe I am missing something |
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| 14:48.25 | Rug | Pendrag0n: seriously, have you tried unplugging them all and then only connect one server at a time? |
| 14:48.45 | jelly | Niemi: which version of iproute2? Which debian release are you using? |
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| 14:49.24 | Rug | afk |
| 14:49.24 | Pupeno | Do you need a new CSR to generate a new certificate? I generate a new CSR for my private key to get an updated cert and they seem to be the same, the new and the old one. |
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| 14:49.39 | jelly | Niemi: in any case, I haven't noticed any support for it in what wheezy's shipping |
| 14:50.05 | repxxl | when i install over internet i don't need the deb-src ? |
| 14:50.12 | Pendrag0n | Yes, I actually did that last, I unplugged everything and plugged it into JUST the bottom server (green wires), and no keyboard out put, then I unplugged everything and tried just the top server (yellow), still no keyboard to screen output. Finally I plugged everything back in and again I type in the username to log in on the yellow one, nothing to screen, switch to the green one and my username is stairing me in the face |
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| 14:51.25 | bhuddah | Pendrag0n: you crossed some of the cables? |
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| 14:51.43 | Niemi | jelly: iproute2 --3.12.0-2 -- amd64 / jessie/sid |
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| 14:52.09 | Pendrag0n | not possible, http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F1DG102P/ this is the device, the monitor and keyboard out are attached, so which ever one you are seing, you should be able to be controlling |
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| 14:52.28 | Rug | Pendrag0n: I don't know what to tell you. IMHO unpowered KVMs have _always_ been problematic (for me). My best suggestion is to goto the Belkin website, grab the manual and see if you can read any help it may offer. |
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| 14:53.06 | Pendrag0n | I could, seems silly, it is just a daggon switch, I'd be reading a manual for a damn unpowered switch. |
| 14:53.14 | Pendrag0n | just seems like something goofy. |
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| 14:53.23 | bhuddah | Pendrag0n: well. obviously not. try disconnecting anything again and start from scratch. |
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| 14:53.57 | jelly | Niemi: jessie or sid? |
| 14:54.07 | repxxl | guys do i need deb-src when i install from internet ? |
| 14:54.15 | jelly | Niemi: you'd probably get better info asking upstream |
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| 14:54.53 | jelly | dpkg, tell Niemi about debian-next |
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| 14:56.08 | Niemi | jelly: many thanks for info |
| 14:56.14 | repxxl | what do deb-src , |
| 14:56.15 | repxxl | ? |
| 14:56.58 | Mikaela | repxxl: They are repositories where source packages are looked from when you request changelog or source with apt-get or aptitude. Someone else might be able to explain better. |
| 14:57.44 | repxxl | i mean look http://www.dotdeb.org/instructions/ i don't need the deb-src i need only the deb i not compiling manually or ? |
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| 14:58.24 | Rug | repxxl: 99% of the time you won't need it. |
| 14:58.39 | WormFood | is there any x86 disassembler package in oldstable, other than binutils (objdump)? |
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| 14:58.56 | Rug | repxxl: I have been running Debian for 14+ years and have actually only needed it once. |
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| 14:59.42 | repxxl | ok ty |
| 15:00.37 | jelly | repxxl: however, |
| 15:00.39 | jelly | !dotdeb |
| 15:00.41 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
| 15:01.05 | WormFood | dotdeb is great |
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| 15:01.42 | jelly | in my experience, their packagingquality has been in range of "questionable" to "downright shoddy" |
| 15:01.44 | Mikaela | I have used Debian for some years and sometimes happened to need it. |
| 15:02.10 | WormFood | so, binutils (objdump) is the only x86 disassembler package in debian stable? |
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| 15:02.19 | repxxl | ok jelly but they have the last php ver. .. |
| 15:02.58 | WormFood | you could compile the latest php ver from source yourself |
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| 15:03.26 | WormFood | I used to always compile apache and php from source....now I'm just lazy |
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| 15:06.28 | bin_bash | hello I'm trying to untar a file that ends in .tgz but when I try tar xvf or tar zxvf I get: gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 15:06.42 | bin_bash | i've tried googling this issue, but haven't come up with a solution that works |
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| 15:07.28 | drywheat | when is it necessary to list out "deb" and "deb-src" for an APT source? |
| 15:07.32 | repxxl | WormFood is there a good tutorial i never compiled from source on debian |
| 15:07.46 | drywheat | i.e. main has both but backports lacks the "deb-src" |
| 15:08.33 | nkuttler | drywheat: if you'd need deb-src you'd know ;) you can probably just remove all deb-src |
| 15:08.55 | drywheat | nkuttler: word, thx |
| 15:08.59 | nkuttler | bin_bash: file <the tgz> |
| 15:09.22 | bin_bash | nkuttler: torshammer.tgz: HTML document, ASCII text, with very long lines |
| 15:09.27 | nkuttler | drywheat: the deb-src lines are when you want to build packages from sources |
| 15:09.32 | nkuttler | bin_bash: think about that for a second |
| 15:09.48 | bin_bash | hmmm |
| 15:09.48 | drywheat | yeah, just saw that |
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| 15:10.00 | bin_bash | nkuttler: hm thats odd |
| 15:10.05 | bin_bash | why give an html file a .tgz Ex-Opesa |
| 15:10.08 | bin_bash | extension** |
| 15:10.11 | bin_bash | didnt mean to tab |
| 15:10.17 | nkuttler | bin_bash: did you download it? |
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| 15:10.29 | bin_bash | nkuttler: yes |
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| 15:10.47 | nkuttler | bin_bash: quite common. people spam ads on legit looking download urls, and the download is really on that page.. |
| 15:10.58 | nkuttler | but one click further.. |
| 15:10.59 | bin_bash | nkuttler: yeah i figured uit out. woops |
| 15:11.01 | bin_bash | -.- |
| 15:11.03 | WormFood | repxxl, sorry, dunno about any compiling from source tutorials. I've been comiling stuff from source for 30 years....tutorials isn't something I'm usually looking for in that area |
| 15:11.05 | bin_bash | didn't think to run file on it |
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| 15:11.25 | bin_bash | thanks haha |
| 15:11.37 | repxxl | WormFood respect |
| 15:12.01 | bin_bash | repxxl: did you try googling it |
| 15:12.14 | bin_bash | compiling is p.easy and it's mostly the same on any *nix distro |
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| 15:12.36 | Seb | bin_bash: he's talking about building *debian packages* from source afaict |
| 15:12.46 | WormFood | repxxl, I learned to compile from source by learning to program in C, back in the 1980s...That is a great route to learn those skills, but it's the long way to go about doing it (but the advantage is, you can edit C source then) |
| 15:12.52 | repxxl | so compile php from source is more secure than use dotdeb,s repo ? |
| 15:12.54 | bin_bash | Seb: ah i thought he meant just compiling in general |
| 15:12.59 | bin_bash | my mistake |
| 15:13.11 | Seb | repxxl: no, you'd end up with the same debian package |
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| 15:13.25 | WormFood | repxxl, maybe, maybe not. It probably depends more on how you configure it, and what compile-time switches you enable |
| 15:13.26 | Seb | repxxl: using packages from debian repositories, you also ensure you get security fixes |
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| 15:15.10 | repxxl | i will install dotdeb now but without the deb-src i will use aptitude when i will remove it later so everything is away regarded to dotdeb when debian has a stable 5.5.x im also confusing about the wget http://www.dotdeb.org/dotdeb.gpg and than sudo apt-key add dotdeb.gpg how i can remove it after i will remove completely dotdeb |
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| 15:16.17 | repxxl | where are apt-keys stored when i later run aptitude remove dotdeb will it remove also the apt-key? |
| 15:16.27 | bariumbitmap | Did I post to this forum correctly? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=112648 |
| 15:16.36 | Seb | repxxl: if you're gonna use packages from unofficial repositories, removing the key afterwards is not exactly a high priority |
| 15:16.47 | Seb | repxxl: man apt-key |
| 15:17.32 | repxxl | Seb i mean when official debian has a stable 5.5.x i will switch than and completely remove dotdeb so to be sure what im installing now so i later can get rid of it all completely |
| 15:17.41 | Seb | sure thing |
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| 15:17.59 | Seb | although removing something unofficial is no guarantee at all |
| 15:18.07 | Seb | i'm not saying dotdeb is bad |
| 15:18.17 | Seb | it's just not official repositories |
| 15:18.44 | Seb | if one were to trojan a .deb and host it somewhere, he'd make sure his shit is left behind even if the user purges his package |
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| 15:28.20 | drywheat | is it poor practice to use pinning via apt preference? |
| 15:28.24 | icesword | bazhang hello |
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| 15:28.55 | zykotick9 | !tell drywheat about frankendebian |
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| 15:29.19 | groolot | hi, how can I set another IP adr |
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| 15:29.27 | groolot | hi, how can I set another IP address to my network interface ? |
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| 15:30.27 | drywheat | frankendebian? |
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| 15:30.46 | zykotick9 | drywheat: did you see the PM from dpkg? |
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| 15:31.39 | drywheat | no, PM? |
| 15:31.51 | zykotick9 | drywheat: sorry, Private Message |
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| 15:32.10 | zykotick9 | drywheat: are you using an irc client? |
| 15:32.15 | drywheat | ah |
| 15:32.45 | drywheat | zykotick9: got it, thx |
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| 15:32.57 | bezaban | groolot: ifconfig eth0:1 <address< |
| 15:33.34 | frediz | Hi, anyone knows if the debian packaging of zfsonlinux has TRIM support |
| 15:33.37 | frediz | ? |
| 15:33.54 | bezaban | groolot: alternatively specify more specific networking information and/or routes. Can also be done permanently in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:34.09 | groolot | bezaban: thanks, that's great ! |
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| 15:36.23 | repxxl | how i can see what users are created on my debian ? im sure nginx has own users created |
| 15:36.30 | repxxl | all users that exists |
| 15:37.19 | bezaban | repxxl: cat /etc/paswd |
| 15:37.24 | bezaban | /etc/passwd* |
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| 15:37.36 | repxxl | what is cat ? like look inside ? |
| 15:37.45 | bezaban | yeah, it's just a text file |
| 15:37.49 | SynrG | short for 'concatenate' |
| 15:37.56 | SynrG | that explanation probably doesn't help much :) |
| 15:37.58 | bezaban | can also use 'more' or 'less' or any other editor |
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| 15:38.49 | mustardnbeans | what command do i need to run to recreate a libfoobar.so file? doing apt-get install --reinstall only appears to reinstall the .a file and a broken link to the .so file. |
| 15:38.54 | bezaban | repxxl: you won't be able to log in with most of those users though |
| 15:38.58 | zykotick9 | !tell drywheat about ssb |
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| 15:42.25 | repxxl | bezaban i just wanted to see if a nginx user exists but no so it will use www-data user i think on centOS i had nginx nginx user |
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| 15:42.46 | Seb | repxxl: "getent passwd" is the portable solution |
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| 15:48.58 | zykotick9 | SynrG: i _so_ rarely use cat to concatenate anything, yet i use cat all the time ;) |
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| 15:50.09 | MotherOfPocahant | Hi ! |
| 15:50.14 | Pocahantass | hi, i have a big problem in my computer |
| 15:50.16 | Pocahantass | he is broke |
| 15:50.27 | MotherOfPocahant | Put in the bin |
| 15:50.37 | nkuttler | !doesn't work |
| 15:50.39 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 15:51.15 | MotherOfPocahant | how can i install windows on my linux computer ? |
| 15:51.25 | Pocahantass | yes ! it's better :D |
| 15:51.30 | zykotick9 | drywheat: yes, backports should be "safe" |
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| 15:51.47 | drywheat | great |
| 15:51.47 | repxxl | how i can do that my services start automatically after restart i mean nginx , mysql and php-pfm |
| 15:51.47 | repxxl | fpm |
| 15:51.55 | |- | MotherOfPocahant, most windows will be too big to fit in the side of a computer case. If you upgrade to a full rack, you could fit a window to that more easily. |
| 15:52.27 | Pocahantass | repxxl : you must install the package on your computer : apt-get install openssh-server |
| 15:52.49 | Pocahantass | and with this you can start automatically restart your mean nginx |
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| 15:53.59 | Pocahantass | how i install a package for ssh ? |
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| 15:54.27 | repxxl | i mean autostart service on the server not my client |
| 15:54.35 | jdabinett | with the command above? |
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| 15:54.49 | zykotick9 | Pocahantass: there is actually a "ssh" metapackage, with both client and server |
| 15:55.00 | asarch | Is Xen the best option for paravirtualization? |
| 15:55.15 | Pocahantass | ahh yeah, i'm sorry i haven't got understant your question |
| 15:55.28 | repxxl | something like chkconfig exists it on debian ? or another way is used |
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| 15:55.52 | Pocahantass | Zykotick9 : thk's for you answer :D |
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| 15:56.56 | Brigo | repxxl, what is chkconfig? |
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| 15:57.17 | repxxl | Brigo ok i found it exists on debian https://packages.debian.org/hu/wheezy/chkconfig |
| 15:57.18 | jdabinett | chkconfig: nothing appropriate. |
| 15:57.31 | repxxl | Brigo you make a service autostart |
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| 15:57.44 | MotherOfGod | I can help you if you want |
| 15:57.55 | Pocahantass | yes me motherofgod |
| 15:58.02 | Pocahantass | there are big shit --' |
| 15:58.04 | qman__ | i think debian uses update-rc.d, but i'm not sure |
| 15:58.08 | Pocahantass | no help me :'( |
| 15:58.16 | MotherOfGod | u have to install windows |
| 15:58.30 | mustardnbeans | what command do i need to run to recreate a libfoobar.so file? doing apt-get install --reinstall only appears to reinstall the .a file and a broken link to the .so file. |
| 15:58.49 | MotherOfGod | to after take the server and autostrat with the enginoring technologie of direct using ssh server |
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| 15:59.28 | qman__ | mustardnbeans: apt-get purge foo; apt-get install foo |
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| 15:59.42 | Guest36884 | hi, how i install windows on debian ? |
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| 15:59.57 | Brigo | MotherOfGod, may be ldconfig? |
| 16:00.05 | qman__ | not sure how to force a clean reinstall without purging first |
| 16:00.28 | MotherOfGod | thanks |
| 16:00.31 | Brigo | qman__, that is imposible. |
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| 16:00.58 | mustardnbeans | qman__: no change, the links aren't being created it appears. |
| 16:01.00 | MotherOfGod | Im in my class and i need help |
| 16:01.22 | qman__ | mustardnbeans: option 2 is manually downloading the deb and extracting the files yourself |
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| 16:01.38 | qman__ | mustardnbeans: make sure you're not just using a metapackage |
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| 16:02.16 | qman__ | e.g. samba doesn't actually have samba config files, samba-common does |
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| 16:02.45 | Godess | hi, i've a problem with debian... When i want install a packet "openssh-server", Debian refuse my request... |
| 16:02.47 | mustardnbeans | qman__: I also tried option 2. The archive only had ./usr/lib/libxres.a and ./usr/lib/libxres.so (a symlink to libxres.so.1.0.0) :/ |
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| 16:04.07 | qman__ | mustardnbeans: then the file is in a different package |
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| 16:04.37 | zykotick9 | Godess: any more details? error? how you're installing? |
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| 16:05.19 | Godess | when i enter my request " apt-get install openssh-server " Debian refuse this.. |
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| 16:05.39 | zykotick9 | Godess: are you root? using sudo? error message? |
| 16:05.52 | Godess | sudo ? |
| 16:06.00 | Godess | it's for the autorization ? |
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| 16:06.26 | repxxl | when i starting mysql i getting Checking for tables which need an upgrade, are corrupt or were not closed cleanly.. |
| 16:06.39 | repxxl | [Info] |
| 16:06.40 | cristiancv | hello please, somebody knows how to protect agains MITM with sslstrip? |
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| 16:08.05 | mustardnbeans | qman__: ahh yes that was the issue. The library package had the missing files, not the dev package. Thanks! |
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| 16:14.59 | josef_ | Hello |
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| 16:16.22 | josef_ | I downloaded debian-7.4.0-powerpc-DVD-1.iso |
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| 16:16.46 | josef_ | but during install it will another disk which is labeled: |
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| 16:17.53 | josef_ | Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ -Official powerpc DVD Binary-1 20140208 |
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| 16:18.26 | josef_ | Hm, so my question is where can I get it? |
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| 16:18.56 | josef_ | on this site i can't find it http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#stable |
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| 16:19.44 | zykotick9 | josef_: just checkin' - but is this really a powerpc arch computer? (old apple or something) |
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| 16:20.22 | phy1729 | I have a Windows DC which does LDAP auth and has home dirs. I have things set up so the linux box's pam can auth with ldap and mount the user's home dir ontop their ~. Problems: pubkeys don't work becuase when users add them to their ~ it's on the share and not the server, so the server can use them till after they login. Can they write to the unmounted ~ folder in any way? |
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| 16:21.56 | c4pr1 | :JOIN #JAVASCRIPT |
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| 16:22.30 | josef_ | yes it is a old power book g4 |
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| 16:23.22 | zykotick9 | josef_: ok, just checking. i have 0 powerpc experience, but that sure looks like the same image/dvd-label to me! best of luck. |
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| 16:24.43 | josef_ | hm, ok .... trying to get the dvd out of the drive |
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| 16:28.29 | gnugnu9 | josef_: doesn't want it to get out? |
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| 16:28.51 | gnugnu9 | josef_: you can force eject, you will have to turn the notebook off |
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| 16:29.09 | gnugnu9 | josef_: I don't know, but powermac should have a insertion-eject, too |
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| 16:30.26 | zykotick9 | notes, if you're running from the cd currently, you may need to shut it down to eject the cd |
| 16:31.04 | josef_ | Hm, gnugnu the drives in the power books have no tray which can be opend from the outside, ok yes I switch off the book |
| 16:31.22 | josef_ | know the isnallation starts again ..... :-( |
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| 16:34.26 | ciupicri | could someone please tell me oldest kernel version available for Debian 5? |
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| 16:42.36 | keith4 | ciupicri: lenny was releaed with 2.6.26 |
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| 16:42.59 | ciupicri | keith4: thank you |
| 16:43.02 | ayaz | Hello. I'm not sure whether this is appropriate to this channel, but it seems that packages.dotdeb.org seems to be down at the moment. |
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| 16:43.50 | keith4 | ciupicri: you could probably run it on the kernel from a previous release, meaning you might be able to run it on 2.4.x, but you'll have some weird problems iirc |
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| 16:44.18 | talo | hi |
| 16:44.18 | ciupicri | keith4: how would that be possible? By doing an upgrade? |
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| 16:44.34 | keith4 | ciupicri: yes, but I wouldn't recommend it |
| 16:45.00 | syshape | exit |
| 16:45.28 | ciupicri | keith4: got it. I needed the information for some documentation. The product supports (recommends) kernel versions >= 2.6.18. |
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| 16:46.56 | ciupicri | keith4: and it would be nice if it would plain say that Debian 5 is supported, instead of mentioning again kernel versions. |
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| 16:56.10 | keith4 | ciupicri: Debian 5 is well out of support, though. e.g., no security updates. not recommended for production use |
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| 17:12.06 | repxxl | how to check what ports are opened on my debian ? |
| 17:12.16 | petern_ | netstat |
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| 17:15.03 | Aeiri | lsof -i |
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| 17:16.17 | repxxl | how i can make my port 3306 open to public from debian ? |
| 17:16.24 | repxxl | its closed and my mysql is running locally |
| 17:16.58 | DelphicOkami | repxxl: can you not use localhost |
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| 17:17.15 | jhutchins | repxxl: Simply have something listen on that port. |
| 17:17.24 | repxxl | hm |
| 17:17.44 | repxxl | i have mysqld 18630 mysql 10u IPv4 23976 0t0 TCP localhost:mysql (LISTEN) |
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| 17:18.09 | repxxl | nginx 17997 www-data 6u IPv4 22228 0t0 TCP *:http (LISTEN) |
| 17:18.17 | repxxl | the others that are open have * |
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| 17:19.23 | repxxl | where i can change this localhost:mysql to *:mysql what is the file i need to access? |
| 17:19.30 | jhutchins | repxxl: You configure it in my.cnf |
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| 17:19.45 | repxxl | ok i go look into it |
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| 17:20.47 | vlt | Hello. I have a screen session running with ssh connections to several Debian (and a few Ubuntu) machines and there on each a screen session. Since a few days those remote screen sessions die. One by one. When I try to reattach I get messages like "There is a screen on: 1137.pts-0.vega (14.08.2013 10:15:41) (Dead ???)". Any idea what could cause this? |
| 17:21.25 | repxxl | when i change bind-address = 127.0.0.1 to bind-address = * it will work as public ? in my.cnf |
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| 17:22.31 | squisher | vlt, if you kill the screen process that's what it looks like |
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| 17:23.11 | CissWit | repxxl: 0.0.0.0 |
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| 17:23.48 | vlt | squisher: Yes. But why? |
| 17:23.50 | jhutchins | repxxl: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ |
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| 17:24.04 | jhutchins | repxxl: That's not the kind of thing you want to configure based on hearsay on irc. |
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| 17:24.09 | vlt | What happens to all these screen processes on different machines in different locations? |
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| 17:24.35 | jdabinett | vlt: screen -x |
| 17:24.45 | squisher | vlt, maybe they crashed? |
| 17:24.51 | jhutchins | vlt: What if they're local? |
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| 17:25.35 | MutantTurkey | i'm trying to install debian on my desktop with a crappy realtek eth0 card |
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| 17:26.07 | MutantTurkey | so, it says that r8169 is loaded, but it keeps saying 'link not ready' whenever i try and do ip link set eth0 up |
| 17:26.10 | jhutchins | vlt: remote ssh/screen sessions with no activity are somewhat prone to be being dropped. I usually have something (irssi) active in my log-term sessions, so I don't know what your problem might be./ |
| 17:26.40 | MutantTurkey | ADDRCONF(NMETDEV_UP): erth: link is not ready... which is driving me crazy since I have firmware-realtek installed |
| 17:26.41 | jhutchins | !r8169 |
| 17:26.41 | dpkg | r8169 is a Linux kernel driver supporting the Realtek RTL8101, RTL8111/8168 and RTL8169 families of gigabit Ethernet chips. See also <rtl8168d>, <rtl8105e>, <rtl8402>, <rtl8411>. Not to be confused with the out-of-tree <r8168> driver. |
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| 17:26.56 | jhutchins | MutantTurkey: Read dmesg for clues. |
| 17:27.00 | MutantTurkey | jhutchins: that's good to know |
| 17:27.09 | MutantTurkey | right... that what iwas getting too |
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| 17:27.28 | MutantTurkey | it says firmware loaded is rtl8168d-2.dw, but lspci indicates that it should be -b not -d |
| 17:27.35 | MutantTurkey | so - how can i manually insert firmware? |
| 17:27.41 | vlt | squisher: A dozen screen sessions, different versions, different servers, running for years … and within a few days they crash. I have just no idea where to begin searching. |
| 17:27.44 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 17:27.44 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 17:28.17 | jhutchins | MutantTurkey: I think that link at the end explains. |
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| 17:29.02 | repxxl | ok finally i finished my little documentation which will helps me allways setup debian with mysql, php-fpm, nginx if anyone interested here : http://pastie.org/8948104 |
| 17:29.07 | squisher | vlt, years? That's some nice uptime (but you do security fixes, right?) Anyway, if it actually was years, then maybe you did hit a bug that only creeps up with very long uptimes |
| 17:29.11 | MutantTurkey | jhutchins: i'm not seeing any good explaination, or even amneition of rtl8168b (maybe it was superseded? the documentation is shit |
| 17:29.12 | squisher | check dmesg for example |
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| 17:29.18 | MutantTurkey | (realtek's that is0 |
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| 17:32.48 | vlt | squisher: Not years of running the very same screen process. I mean I’m doing this for years now and never experienced something like this. |
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| 17:34.19 | squisher | vlt, ah ok. It is odd, I agree. Like I said, check dmesg on the servers first and see if you can find evidence of it crashing. For what it's worth, I've switched to tmux and like it better. |
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| 17:34.44 | vlt | squisher: Found something: Mar 17 13:59:45 vega kernel: [18593045.200875] screen[1137]: segfault at 0 ip 0807160c sp bf997b20 error 4 in screen[8048000+4e000] |
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| 17:36.18 | squisher | ok, so now as to why it is segfaulting? Hard to tell. Could be something that you're running inside screen. Maybe it's even a similar program on the different machines? |
| 17:36.21 | grondilu | Hello, in linux when I want to temporaly bypass my locales settings, I can run '$ LANG=C dowhatever' and the output of the command will be in english. What is the equivalent of that in windows? |
| 17:36.22 | vlt | squisher: Another machine: Mar 17 13:59:45 parker kernel: [751072.555884] screen[1582]: segfault at 0 ip 000000000042b940 sp 00007ffff25a08c0 error 4 in screen[400000+58000] |
| 17:37.03 | vlt | THE TIME! |
| 17:37.35 | squisher | grondilu, I don't think you have that option in windows; it doesn't install other locales |
| 17:37.41 | dondelelcaro | grondilu: best to ask in ##windows; they might now |
| 17:37.45 | squisher | but that's waaay off-topic here :) |
| 17:37.46 | lorenzo | grondilu, you can't |
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| 17:37.49 | Ritzton | Hello |
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| 17:38.12 | vlt | squisher: Aaaaannd another: Mar 17 13:59:45 2ven kernel: [13110028.127341] screen[7282]: segfault at 0 ip 000000000042a248 sp 00007fffbf52a9d0 error 4 in screen[400000+55000] |
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| 17:38.38 | grondilu | dondelelcaro: the problem in asking in ##windows is that I can't mention the LANG=C thing, they would have no idea what I'm talking about. |
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| 17:39.07 | squisher | vlt, heh... again, what were you running in the screen? Maybe that was the cause for the crash |
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| 17:40.22 | dondelelcaro | grondilu: you might be surprised, but it would at least be on topic there. |
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| 17:40.48 | lorenzo | grondilu, no need to make examples, just ask for how to change the locale temporarily from the current prompt, but I just think it can't be done, windows comes with a single locale by default |
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| 17:41.07 | vlt | squisher: Number 4: Mar 17 13:59:45 antony kernel: [11501189.310218] screen[1053]: segfault at 0 ip 0807160c sp bfad8be0 error 4 in screen[8048000+4e000] |
| 17:41.10 | grondilu | goes to ##windows |
| 17:41.12 | lorenzo | and even changing the locale depends a lot on the licensing (only enterprise and ultimate versions can do that) |
| 17:41.18 | vlt | squisher: Did you notice the time stamp? |
| 17:41.59 | squisher | vlt, yes, I did. My question still stands... |
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| 17:43.17 | vlt | squisher: Quite different things. Two of them are asterisk machines with an open asterisk console each, one is a xen dom0, so no asterisk here, one is neither nor. |
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| 17:44.42 | squisher | vlt, that seems like an unlikely reason then... |
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| 17:44.56 | vlt | squisher: But I have a new idea. Maybe it wasn’t something inside the screens. To me it seems way more likely that something in the "mother" screen causes that. How would you explain all of them segfaulting at 13:59:45? |
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| 17:46.48 | squisher | true... were the screens attached, or detached? any crashes on the machine the mother screen ran on? |
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| 17:48.49 | vlt | squisher: The screens were attached. |
| 17:49.03 | vlt | checks the mother machine |
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| 17:49.39 | squisher | I'd say then it's more likely that the mother screen was responsible |
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| 17:52.14 | vlt | squisher: Nothing suspicious in the mother machine’s syslog. And the mother screen hasn’t crashed (yet). |
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| 17:56.49 | vlt | (for the record, number 5: Mar 17 13:59:45 mclaren kernel: [16166029.373953] screen[1046]: segfault at 0 ip 0807160c sp bfffde10 error 4 in screen[8048000+4e000]) |
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| 17:57.37 | mcurran | hello |
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| 17:59.03 | squisher | vlt, I'd still suspect some screw-up in the mother screen |
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| 18:05.22 | atannus | Can I get oracle-java-7 on Jessie? |
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| 18:06.21 | centrx | atannus, You could, but probably better to use the OpenJDK packages in Debian |
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| 18:06.40 | atannus | CEnnis91, intellij complains about it. |
| 18:06.45 | vlt | squisher: I checked what I did yesterday at that time: I connected from my phone (JuiceSSH on Android) to the mother screen. :O |
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| 18:06.56 | rmdashrf | atannus: sudo apt-get install java-package, download the tar.gz from oracle, and do make-jpkg |
| 18:07.00 | atannus | CEnnis91, sorry, meant to centrx |
| 18:07.20 | GTRsdk | I've got a netbook (2013 manufacturer year) which has an AMD A4 APU in it and an Atheros wifi chip in it... iirc, the chip works just fine on modern version of GNU/Linux (3.10+ I've had luck with), so what installation image would you recommend for that device? |
| 18:07.22 | rmdashrf | then update-alternatives --config java |
| 18:07.32 | babilen | atannus: It really shouldn't; OpenJDK is the reference implementation for 7+ |
| 18:07.35 | GTRsdk | I tried the daily testing image yesterday, only to find out that it ouldn't partition properly |
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| 18:07.48 | babilen | dpkg: tell GTRsdk -about testing installer |
| 18:08.13 | iateadonut | what is this called '>' when you use it to put the output into a file? |
| 18:08.13 | atannus | Well, IntelliJ says OpenJDK is unstable... |
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| 18:08.52 | babilen | GTRsdk: You could try other testing images or install wheezy first and take it from there. You could install a backported kernel first or just take it directly to jessie. (cf. /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie) |
| 18:08.53 | centrx | iateadonut, redirector / I/O redirection |
| 18:08.57 | squisher | vlt, interesting! So who knows, maybe it is a bug caused by the terminal emulation of JuiceSSH |
| 18:09.00 | MutantTurkey | s |
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| 18:09.37 | GTRsdk | I can't get any networking to work on the older kernels, so is there an image with the newer kernel baked in? |
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| 18:11.30 | socomm | iateadonut: output redirection |
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| 18:11.52 | babilen | GTRsdk: Yes, the testing installer. But then you could install from CD (or even a minimal system from the netinstall image) and install the backported kernel. Can't you connect via ethernet? |
| 18:11.55 | wols | GTRsdk: install debian stable and a backports kernel after the installation |
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| 18:12.11 | socomm | iateadonut: http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles2/042.html |
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| 18:12.28 | GTRsdk | I don't have any sort of ethernet port on the device |
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| 18:12.36 | babilen | GTRsdk: The installer team is working on images with a backported kernel, but it is unfortunately not yet available. |
| 18:12.47 | babilen | dpkg: tell GTRsdk -about backports |
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| 18:13.35 | babilen | GTRsdk: You can grab the kernel images from there (+ dependencies), transfer them manually and install them with "dpkg -i /path/to/the/*.deb" |
| 18:13.44 | socomm | GTRsdk: you coul always buy a USB ethernet dongle |
| 18:14.05 | socomm | s/coul/could/ |
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| 18:23.44 | atannus | rmdashrf, awesome, thanks. |
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| 18:26.53 | BHSPiMonkey | After switching from a nightly apt repo to a stable one, is there a way to downgrade to the latest version of a package without uninstalling? |
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| 18:30.33 | wols | !tell BHSPiMonkey about downgrade |
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| 18:32.47 | kjs | Hi guys, I am running a amd64 system and I need to install a 32bit package... if i wget the package form the mirror and try and install it - it fails due to deps, i can then install them using apt-get -f |
| 18:33.29 | kjs | but I get a warning, I am wondering if this will cause my machine to screw up - does debian support multi arch ? |
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| 18:33.47 | kjs | here is the output - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6111af476aa4e022f091 |
| 18:33.50 | centrx | dpkg: tell kjs about multiarch |
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| 18:35.05 | kjs | centrx: nice, so once I add multiarch I can install the 32bit version of the package I need via apt ? |
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| 18:36.03 | centrx | kjs, That's the idea |
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| 18:36.35 | jhutchins | kjs: Be aware that multiarch is a work in progress, and not everything works perfectly, but a lot does work. |
| 18:37.17 | kjs | well it seems like the only option |
| 18:37.25 | kjs | so il go with it |
| 18:37.41 | ompaul | kjs: not all things are in multiarch |
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| 18:40.35 | kjs | ompaul: doesn't look like libboost-all-dev is i386 / in multiarch |
| 18:40.37 | kjs | damn |
| 18:41.08 | jelly-home | kjs: debian typically does not carry packages named ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard |
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| 18:41.20 | paloalt0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.27 | jelly-home | kjs: are you sure your paste is from the correct system? |
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| 18:42.09 | kjs | jelly-home: yeah ok you got me its' ubuntu 12.04 lts, but i prefer the crowd here. |
| 18:42.16 | paloalt0 | I ran testdisk to try to fix my MBR and now all I get is a 1234F prompt that does nothing when i try to boot. i downloaded some rescue distros to a flashdrive but it won't boot the flash drive or give me a way to get to the BIOS. Any suggestions? |
| 18:42.42 | ompaul | kjs: we don't do knowledge for ubuntu |
| 18:42.44 | jelly-home | kjs: I don't have anything polite to say about that. Well I do -- please ask in the right place. |
| 18:43.24 | kjs | yeah ok |
| 18:43.28 | jelly-home | important things, relevant things are different enough that an answer valid for wheezy might break your system |
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| 18:43.57 | kjs | i understand. |
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| 18:47.06 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 18:47.07 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
| 18:47.12 | jhutchins | paloalt0: Try that. |
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| 19:01.31 | socomm | I'll never understand why people join #debian to ask questions on Ubuntu |
| 19:01.33 | socomm | :^/ |
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| 19:02.32 | maasha | Hey, I have a problem with the unix file command returning minix for a gzip file. Ideas to fix this? |
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| 19:04.32 | wols | maasha: uninstall the "file" package and reinstall? |
| 19:04.44 | socomm | wols: not sure thats a real solution |
| 19:04.47 | wols | what are the 2 first bytes of your file? |
| 19:05.16 | wols | well it removes and reinstalls your magic file which might have gotten corrupted. also you can check /etc/magic* of course |
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| 19:07.38 | maasha | wols: I have encountered this problem once before. I think there is an issue with the file command and some unlucky byte sequence - but the file command have pletora of options where one may be useful |
| 19:08.13 | maasha | wols: and the file is not corrupted. it can be gunzipped just fine. |
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| 19:11.14 | maasha | file -k returns Minix filesystem, V2, 35890 zones\012- gzip compressed data, from NTFS filesystem (NT), max speed where file on its own returns Minix filesystem, V2, 35890 zones |
| 19:11.23 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 19:13.21 | maasha | file -k seems to be a way around |
| 19:13.33 | Posterdati | please help --> http://pastebin.com/7xT9niKc |
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| 19:15.17 | jelly-home | Posterdati: care to write a sentence or two explaining the area you're searching for help before one clicks? |
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| 19:15.46 | lmat | When did 4.7 come out ? |
| 19:15.55 | lmat | sorry, 7.4 :) |
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| 19:16.34 | jelly-home | lmat: read the topic please and to the obvious thing |
| 19:17.00 | jelly-home | do* the obvious thing, that is /msg dpkg 7.4 |
| 19:17.21 | Posterdati | jelly-home: the keyboard freezes after a while |
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| 19:18.13 | josef_ | Hi, again |
| 19:18.34 | jelly-home | Posterdati: ah. Sadly, you have two third-party modules known to introduce instabilities and kernel memory corruption -- vbox _and_ nvidia blob |
| 19:18.55 | josef_ | how to look what packages are available on my fresh downloade debian iso? |
| 19:19.12 | Posterdati | jelly-home: nvidia works fine |
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| 19:19.35 | jelly-home | Posterdati: yeah, until it doesn't |
| 19:19.38 | Posterdati | and I need vbox too :( |
| 19:19.54 | Posterdati | what about nvdia May I use nouveau? |
| 19:20.06 | jelly-home | you could at least try it |
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| 19:20.43 | Posterdati | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1) |
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| 19:22.23 | josef_ | hm, jelly-home no I can't the dvd goes in but not out it is an old power book from apple |
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| 19:25.41 | lmat | I'm interested in installing debian from a USB drive. I see "How do I write a CD image to a USB flash drive?" but I'm not yet sure how to make this work with the 3 DVDs. |
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| 19:25.56 | Mikaela | lmat: You only need the DVD1. |
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| 19:26.22 | lmat | Mikaela: Okay. Let's see if I can get that to fit onto my flash drive ^_^ |
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| 19:26.54 | Mikaela | If you can't, there are CD-images too and you need only the CD1 with them. DVD has more packages available. |
| 19:27.08 | lmat | Mikaela: That's very helpful, thanks! |
| 19:27.18 | Mikaela | You're welcome :) |
| 19:27.28 | lmat | Mikaela: And what do I do (without an internet connection) if I decide I want to install some packages from a subsequent CD or DVD ? |
| 19:27.34 | lmat | Mikaela: (or perhaps I should just wait and see ? ^_^) |
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| 19:28.26 | Mikaela | lmat: I think that you would write those CDs/DVDs to CD/DVD/USB and run "apt-cd add" and then install them normall. |
| 19:28.34 | Mikaela | I haven't ever done that thought. |
| 19:28.48 | Mikaela | Sorry, it's apt-cdrom, not apt-cd |
| 19:28.53 | lmat | Mikaela: neato :) |
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| 19:29.25 | lmat | yes, love torrent... downloading 7.4 at 13 MB/s |
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| 19:30.16 | funnyfingers | Using Debian 8, just did the latest update last night, didn't reboot. This afternoon, my wife went to switch to her username and it looked frozen. She rebooted to a kernel panic and can not allocate memory. Rebooted again to try the older kernel, and the error is now: attempt to read or write outside of partition and it is in grub rescue. |
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| 19:30.51 | ctmjr | debian 8? |
| 19:30.57 | funnyfingers | Jessie |
| 19:31.42 | ctmjr | !tell funnyfingers about debian-next |
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| 19:31.56 | JelmerD | Hey guys, I'm wondering if the /usr/lib/php5/XXXXXX/ always stays the same. Because I want to install xdebug on my vagrant for development, so I need to know what this number is based on. |
| 19:32.03 | JelmerD | Is it the number of the build/version ? |
| 19:32.10 | funnyfingers | ctmjr, can you invite me to debian-next? |
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| 19:32.51 | ChibaPet | funnyfingers: debian-next is on OFTC - are you trying the right network? |
| 19:33.05 | funnyfingers | oh I am in freenode right now. |
| 19:33.14 | ctmjr | it is on irc.oftc.net not freenode |
| 19:33.23 | funnyfingers | Maybe we could act like this is Debian 7 and see if the same steps could help me for this grub rescue? |
| 19:33.36 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: Sounds a good bit like a disk failure. |
| 19:33.53 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: You should be able to do multiple servers. |
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| 19:34.06 | funnyfingers | It is SSD, any thoughts on what I can do? Do I need a rescure disk or will grub rescue let me do anything? |
| 19:34.20 | funnyfingers | I can type ls and get the disk params like the numbers... |
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| 19:36.21 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html |
| 19:36.38 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: I'm going for catastrophic hardware failure. |
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| 19:37.41 | funnyfingers | jhutchins I am in debian-next now as well, but since you aren't there... how catastrophic if it is reading grub from that disk? |
| 19:38.02 | funnyfingers | it is ssd, though obviously they can fail as well. |
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| 19:39.07 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: The fact that grub can't find the boot files suggests that the boot or root partition is no longer addressable. While you might expect that to happen if you were working with disk partitions, simply doing an update wouldn't cause that. |
| 19:39.32 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: THis is consistent with how an ssd fails. |
| 19:39.48 | jhutchins | It's worth trying the process in that link, but also worth pricing a new drive. |
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| 19:39.53 | z1nz3r0 | Random question, but does XFCE come with Debian Testing now? |
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| 19:40.26 | jhutchins | z1nz3r0: You can install xfce on testing, just as you can with any release. |
| 19:40.31 | funnyfingers | will do, jhutchins, much appreciated. |
| 19:40.32 | z1nz3r0 | Thanks |
| 19:40.34 | z1nz3r0 | :) |
| 19:40.59 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: If it doesn't recover, it's probably worth checking it with a rescue disk too. |
| 19:41.27 | funnyfingers | jhutchins do you know if I can view that prefix before setting it? |
| 19:41.40 | funnyfingers | oh just set maybe |
| 19:41.42 | funnyfingers | ok brb |
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| 19:42.00 | Rug | Attention everybody: Ars has a good article about the kernel.org hack and an exploit involving 10,000+ linux/unix servers |
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| 19:42.40 | Rug | quick test to see if your machine has been compromised: ssh -G 2>&1 | grep -e illegal -e unknown > /dev/null && echo "System clean" || echo "System infected" |
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| 19:43.55 | lmat | Rug: I can't find the -G option in my OpenSSH documentation. Are you giving me a virus ? |
| 19:44.06 | lmat | Rug: Also, where can I read that article ? |
| 19:44.17 | rryoumaa | i have no -G option in ssh in wheezy |
| 19:44.20 | dondelelcaro | lmat: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/10000-linux-servers-hit-by-malware-serving-tsunami-of-spam-and-exploits/ |
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| 19:44.30 | dondelelcaro | the -G option isn't a valid ssh option; it's apparently part of the rootkit |
| 19:44.31 | Rug | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 19:44.56 | funnyfingers | jhutchins prefix and root are set... prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub root=hd0,msdos1 Think I should set it to 1 as that article says instead of msdos1? |
| 19:45.31 | lmat | oh, so Rug was trying to install a rootkit on my machine ? For shame! |
| 19:45.58 | dondelelcaro | lmat: no; he was pointing out an old exploit that adds a new option to ssh. |
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| 19:46.08 | lmat | dondelelcaro: Gotcha :) |
| 19:46.12 | Rug | =) |
| 19:46.13 | daemonkeeper | If you think running a command with a random flag gave you a rootkit you should be seeking a new job. |
| 19:46.26 | lmat | daemonkeeper: Or perhaps just seeking a job ? ^_^ |
| 19:46.40 | Rug | ok try this: fdisk -ouch |
| 19:46.43 | Rug | =) |
| 19:46.53 | lmat | Rug: hah! ^_^ |
| 19:46.53 | dondelelcaro | lmat: you could also do the same thing with (cd /; md5sum --check /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-client.md5sums )|grep -v OK |
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| 19:49.52 | vimel | ty for headsup. |
| 19:50.30 | dondelelcaro | http://www.welivesecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/operation_windigo.pdf is a much more complete discussion of the issue |
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| 19:52.51 | Rug | dondelelcaro: thanks for the link |
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| 19:54.48 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: Sorry, rl. Yes, not sure what msdos is doing there. |
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| 19:56.19 | funnyfingers | jhutchins my guess is it was always there. I tried 1 and still same error when trying normal. Could it think it is disk 1 instead of 0? I can try that. |
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| 19:57.57 | funnyfingers | jhutchins can't get C/H/S values with hd1 so definitely looking like the right drive. |
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| 20:02.56 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: I'd say it's time for a rescue cd and a visit to http://pricewatch.com |
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| 20:03.54 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: The good news is the current SSDs are much more reliable and much less sensitive to wear. |
| 20:04.49 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: It's the lock-up when your wife tried to change users that suggests disk failure to me. At that point, we should assume everything was pointed at the right devices. |
| 20:05.32 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: We also don't have any kernel changes that would change drive/partition addressing, so there's not much we can logically point to and say "oh, this corrupted something". |
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| 20:06.53 | funnyfingers | jhutchins that is why I mentioned the user switch to not fully blame the upgrade. Well working on getting a rescue disk, so we'll see how it goes. |
| 20:07.18 | funnyfingers | jhutchins odd though that this installed a fresh drive with hd0,msdos1 though, huh? |
| 20:08.42 | fommil | Hi all. I have a Dell XPS 13 laptop, which is reviewed as the most Linux friendly laptop on the market at the moment. All the hardware seems to work, which is great. But the trackpad sometimes behaves a little bit strangely: the cursor randomly jumps to the bottom of the screen! This might be when I'm moving the cursor or typing something. Any ideas? |
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| 20:16.02 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: That could have been something about the original drive setup. |
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| 20:16.34 | jhutchins | forcer: After a while they all do that. Mine became unusable. |
| 20:17.02 | jhutchins | fommil: After a while they all do that. Mine became unusable. |
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| 20:17.09 | jhutchins | forcer: sry. |
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| 20:24.07 | funnyfingers | jhutchins - In rescue mode I went to the partition table in the graphical part and it shows: SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) - 40.0 GB ATA OCZ-Agility2 #1 primary 38.3 GB B ext4 #5 logical 1.7 GB F swap swap and then lists my 8 GB usb stick. I couldn't load a root from sda1... |
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| 20:26.11 | c0ded | hey im wondering what controls how my folders are displayed, for example on 1 server of mine if i do ls -la on my home dir, it list everything in alphbetical order files and dirs mixed, and on another server same disro, same setup everwhere as far as i can ell, but when i do ls-la on my home folder it lists all the hidden files/dir 1st then the folders that arent .hidden |
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| 20:26.47 | c0ded | id like to get them all to do it that 2nd way, where it shows the .hidden files and folders 1st in order, then the non hidden folders after it |
| 20:26.52 | c0ded | where can i fix this? |
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| 20:27.35 | locked | Would anyone here happen to be using mpdviz? |
| 20:28.27 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: There are a bunch of things you can try from here. Shopping is the most time/cost effective. You can try a rescue disk, you can try reinstalling. |
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| 20:29.20 | jhutchins | !anyone |
| 20:29.21 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 20:30.27 | funnyfingers | jhutchins - I am getting close, I actually ran fsck on that partition and it fixed a ton and then I could mount it. |
| 20:31.17 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: Yeah, but you've got to ask yourself "how did it become un-fixed in the first place". |
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| 20:32.18 | locked | My visualizer (mpdviz) is very not "clean" like the examples posted on github. It is very choppy the wave does not look like a wave and the spectrum can only keep up with the top half. I was wondering if this was a font issue or something else? |
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| 20:32.25 | funnyfingers | jhutchins - booted to the desktop. I'll look for another disk. I don't know why. The fsck deleted some inodes and then a bunch of number of something checks. |
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| 20:33.03 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: Do you have smartmontools installed? |
| 20:33.05 | funnyfingers | jhutchins actually it did say bad ugh sorry don't remember the term, like a bad mismount.. |
| 20:33.07 | tytan | 32MB of RAM are not enough for a net install :( |
| 20:33.19 | funnyfingers | jhutchins like when you kill the power while writing is going on... |
| 20:33.36 | ompaul | tytan: a phone wouldn't run on that these days |
| 20:33.40 | ompaul | ;-) |
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| 20:33.55 | ompaul | tytan: you could try embedded |
| 20:34.10 | tytan | ompaul: but my iMac G3 used to run with it :D |
| 20:34.18 | jhutchins | I'm still hoping someone will port Debian to my dear old Casseopia. |
| 20:34.37 | funnyfingers | jhutchins - I don't have that installed, but will check it out. Looking for like a SMART predictive failure in it? |
| 20:35.07 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: Looking for bad blocks in the syslog. |
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| 20:35.32 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: Also, run badblocks, then run it again. If it finds more, you know it's going. |
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| 20:36.06 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: My guess would be you have up to two more possible recoveries, then it's a brick. |
| 20:36.24 | jhutchins | funnyfingers: I could be entirely wrong though. |
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| 20:40.12 | funnyfingers | jhutchins sorry my daughter just played move your feet you lose your seat and closed my window:) Thanks for the help! |
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| 20:49.50 | repxxl | log_errors = On & error_log = /usr/share/nginx/logs/php_errors.log however no result the php_errors.log is still empty i created it with root |
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| 20:52.25 | mike802 | mike802.blogspot.com |
| 20:52.38 | mike802 | #coded_on_windows |
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| 20:53.12 | repxxl | how i can check how nginx running if it's running under root ? |
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| 20:55.36 | repxxl | i installed everything from a root i mean nginx , php , mysql do all this now use the root user to perform something ? |
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| 20:56.03 | linuxthefish | why is debian missing package ubuntu has!? |
| 20:56.04 | linuxthefish | Failed (libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) |
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| 20:56.52 | ompaul | linuxthefish: that's a great question, but really the qusetion is what is it you are trying to install |
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| 20:57.10 | linuxthefish | libssl.so.0.9.8 |
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| 20:57.28 | linuxthefish | "apt-get install libssl0.9.8" dosn't work now... |
| 20:57.32 | ompaul | ,v libssl |
| 20:57.34 | judd | No package named 'libssl' was found in i386. |
| 20:57.50 | ompaul | funny that ... it's not a package what do you want it for |
| 20:58.14 | ompaul | ,v libssl-0.9.8 |
| 20:58.15 | judd | No package named 'libssl-0.9.8' was found in i386. |
| 20:58.26 | ompaul | ,v libssl0.9.8 |
| 20:58.28 | judd | Package: libssl0.9.8 on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14 |
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| 20:58.31 | linuxthefish | it works in debian 6 but not debian 7 |
| 20:58.37 | ompaul | ,v libssl1.0.0 |
| 20:58.38 | judd | Package: libssl1.0.0 on i386 -- wheezy-security: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u3; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2+deb7u4; jessie: 1.0.1f-1; sid: 1.0.1f-1; experimental: 1.0.2~beta1-1 |
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| 20:58.59 | ompaul | linuxthefish: I guess that is the answer if you can work it out |
| 20:59.11 | linuxthefish | move to debian 6 -_- |
| 20:59.19 | linuxthefish | what's the point in new versions then... |
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| 20:59.30 | ompaul | it's in version 7 of debian |
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| 21:00.07 | ompaul | libssl1.0.0 is higher than libssl0.9.8 |
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| 21:01.17 | linuxthefish | libcrypto.so.0.9.8 argh |
| 21:01.30 | linuxthefish | yeah but this software isn't compiled to that version... |
| 21:01.40 | ompaul | !ops perhaps emma__ could be asked to check the connection |
| 21:01.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ompaul complains about: perhaps emma__ could be asked to check the connection |
| 21:02.07 | linuxthefish | in linux you have to pay someone to modify source code of an application just to make it work :( |
| 21:02.12 | ompaul | linuxthefish: what softeware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahrpa_PqZrk |
| 21:02.15 | ompaul | wiios |
| 21:02.19 | ompaul | no that's not for here |
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| 21:02.39 | ompaul | and it's nsfw at the end sorry about that |
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| 21:03.16 | ompaul | linuxthefish: if you choose to run outside of the tree that is how the world works if you can't do it yourself |
| 21:03.31 | linuxthefish | :S |
| 21:03.49 | ompaul | linuxthefish: if it has value maintain that value or migrate |
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| 21:05.11 | nkuttler | hrm, is there a vim with py3 scripting support? |
| 21:05.42 | linuxthefish | can i add sources.list from debian 6 to debian 7? |
| 21:05.55 | nkuttler | linuxthefish: you can, but that won't do much.. |
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| 21:06.25 | ompaul | linuxthefish: it would be a bad idea to try and force it migrate the source and rebuild it or run a virtual 6 machine |
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| 21:08.27 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: There is one dirty trick you can try at your own risk: symlink the new version to the old. |
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| 21:09.22 | repxxl | how i can clear a .log file from a root to not affect it's owner |
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| 21:09.27 | ompaul | confusing the living whats it out of anything that calls libssl no number |
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| 21:11.08 | tremon | repxxl: :> $file |
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| 21:22.27 | jhutchins | ompaul: Other possible fun times too. |
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| 21:22.36 | repxxl | is it wrong when i installed nginx, php, mysql all from root account ? |
| 21:23.38 | ompaul | repxxl: no apt-get install gets it going with sensible permissions |
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| 21:24.02 | repxxl | ompaul i installed all with apititude |
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| 21:24.14 | mikodo | In installs, where is Grub2 installed. To MBR boot partition, to the partition debian is installed, or is there an offering to install to both or either? |
| 21:24.19 | Brody | jhutchins I just wanted to say, Ive got Debian working now. You gave me lots of help over the last two weeks so I wanted to say thankyou. |
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| 21:25.49 | ompaul | repxxl: so you have sensible defaults now read the docs to see how to link them :) |
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| 21:26.20 | jhutchins | Brody: Oh, hey, congratulations! |
| 21:26.45 | jhutchins | Brody: Was there any one particular thing that was the blocker, or was it just a learning experience? |
| 21:26.57 | ompaul | repxxl: /msg dpkg packagename may give you clues |
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| 21:27.36 | elichai | hi |
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| 21:28.03 | elichai | i downloaded an text editor and place an ln of it in /usr/bin, how can i make it the default text editor? |
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| 21:28.22 | elichai | (i don't even see it when i right click on an txt file) |
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| 21:29.49 | jhutchins | elichai: Install it properly from a Debian repository. |
| 21:29.55 | ompaul | elichai: learn about https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives this stuff is good - what editor is it may I ask |
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| 21:30.18 | elichai | jhutchins: it's sublime |
| 21:30.25 | ompaul | ,v sublime |
| 21:30.26 | judd | No package named 'sublime' was found in i386. |
| 21:30.43 | elichai | thats why i needed to manualy install it |
| 21:30.48 | jhutchins | ... pretty sure we have it somewhere... |
| 21:30.56 | elichai | i copyied it into /opt and ln to /usr/bin |
| 21:31.14 | ompaul | jhutchins: some of the libs |
| 21:31.18 | jhutchins | elichai: Nope, not how it works. |
| 21:31.22 | ompaul | jhutchins: what is the why not command |
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| 21:31.37 | jhutchins | elichai: Which release? |
| 21:31.50 | elichai | jhutchins: what release?debian? |
| 21:31.52 | elichai | wheezy |
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| 21:32.18 | jhutchins | ompaul: Is that apt-cache? |
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| 21:32.51 | ompaul | jhutchins: thanks |
| 21:33.02 | Brody | jhutchins well you may remember the machine had Windows working on it before I started. I changed the DVD drive, the hd and those didnt seem to work. I then changed the ram card and that possibly was the turning point. It was kind of inconsistent so I cant say for certain. But its been working for a few days now and things seem stable. Its using gnome 3 in fallback mode cus the gfx card is too weak but this seems fine for me. So yeah |
| 21:33.06 | Brody | much for the patience |
| 21:33.45 | elichai | jhutchins: i found this: http://simonewebdesign.it/blog/how-to-install-sublime-text-3-on-debian/ but it's kind of scary to install a deb from nowhere |
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| 21:34.29 | elichai | jhutchins: just for the record i did something like this: https://gist.github.com/Kerrick/2716568 |
| 21:34.45 | linuxthefish | <jhutchins> linuxthefish: There is one dirty trick you can try at your own risk: symlink the new version to the old. |
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| 21:34.49 | linuxthefish | not even new libssl :( |
| 21:35.27 | ompaul | linuxthefish: apt-get install libssl1.0.0 |
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| 21:35.42 | linuxthefish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:36.49 | elichai | jhutchins: i just found that if i install version 3 it's got an official .deb file |
| 21:37.08 | Azrael_- | regarding iptables, do you suggest to allow all output packets or do you also filter them`? |
| 21:37.17 | ompaul | elichai: careful it is not a debian deb it may demant things that are incompatible |
| 21:37.20 | Agiofws | hey |
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| 21:38.20 | Agiofws | i have a DVR thats runs linux. Due to "lightning" it think its NIC is dead. what are my chances of replacing its network card as if it was a tower PC ? |
| 21:38.31 | elichai | ompaul: i found in their official site an Ubuntu deb file and it's installed completley |
| 21:38.48 | linuxthefish | Agiofws don't count on it |
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| 21:39.04 | ompaul | elichai: please /msg dpkg frankendebian |
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| 21:39.46 | jhutchins | ompaul: I can never remember how to use "why not". |
| 21:40.01 | Agiofws | linuxthefish, its a dvr security recorder http://www.powerview.nl/product/product-DVR-3016HL.htm ? |
| 21:40.16 | ompaul | jhutchins: :-) I'm in that club I guess a grep of some local logs might give me a clue |
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| 21:40.36 | linuxthefish | Agiofws it's got any USB ports? that would be your best bet |
| 21:40.50 | linuxthefish | it won't have any PCIe slots that's for sure |
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| 21:41.19 | Agiofws | linuxthefish, yes it does but whats the usb port going to prove ? |
| 21:42.05 | jhutchins | Agiofws: What kind of dvr? |
| 21:42.06 | Agiofws | linuxthefish, http://www.powerview.nl/product/product-DVR-3016HL.htm ? |
| 21:42.13 | linuxthefish | not loading sorry |
| 21:42.19 | linuxthefish | you could use a USB ethernet card |
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| 21:42.37 | elichai | ok thanks for helping |
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| 21:43.48 | Agiofws | linuxthefish, i would have to install the USB drivers for that to work though ... which i think is quite difficult for a proprietary system that runs linux ? or a certain kernel etc... |
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| 21:44.24 | ompaul | linuxthefish: dpkg -L libssl1.0.0 |
| 21:44.26 | linuxthefish | better than trying to re-micro solder a new NIC on lol |
| 21:44.46 | linuxthefish | o thanks ompaul ! |
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| 21:45.24 | jhutchins | Agiofws: I'd say your first step is to open the box and look at it - but this isn't really on-topic for #debian. Maybe ##hardware or ##networking. |
| 21:45.58 | ompaul | Agiofws: this is a debian help channel if your machine runs debian we could help you if not we don't know what your "vendor" did to lock down or open up the box so our guesses would be out of order ime |
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| 21:46.37 | ompaul | Agiofws: the advice could be toxic if you do something without knowledge to understand it's implications |
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| 21:49.27 | Agiofws | ompaul, it did not lock up its NIC i think its dead so i have to check it or open the box etc ... |
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| 21:49.37 | shawnbon206 | i want to put a debian lamp server on my android in a chroot. possible? |
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| 21:51.49 | Agiofws | ok thank you all |
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| 21:53.06 | Gorwell | Hi, synaptics touchpad has just stopped working, is there a way to restart the module or something? |
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| 21:53.32 | berceanu | anyone succeded in installing popcorntime on wheezy? |
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| 21:54.06 | babilen | berceanu: be the first! |
| 21:54.16 | berceanu | babilen: hahaha |
| 21:54.25 | berceanu | babilen: no tnx :p |
| 21:54.30 | berceanu | babilen: looks messy |
| 21:54.30 | babilen | okay :) |
| 21:54.38 | babilen | dpkg: next |
| 21:54.39 | dpkg | NEXT PLEASE! |
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| 21:55.14 | jhutchins | Gorwell: I would try restarting X. |
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| 21:58.15 | tytan | welll ... |
| 21:58.29 | tytan | I do a net install at the moment |
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| 21:59.05 | tytan | I do a net install at the moment:( |
| 21:59.19 | centrx | Is this a rap |
| 21:59.27 | tytan | My computer has 96MB of RAM at the moment. |
| 21:59.41 | tytan | Hopefully it doesn't istall a GUI automatically |
| 21:59.57 | SynrG | when it comes to software selection you have a choice |
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| 22:00.21 | tytan | It installs the base system |
| 22:00.39 | SynrG | the base does not include any GUI |
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| 22:00.47 | babilen | 96MB of RAM will be tight though |
| 22:00.47 | tytan | :) nice |
| 22:01.04 | SynrG | 128 is more comfortable |
| 22:01.10 | SynrG | i agree, 96 will be extremely tight |
| 22:01.17 | tytan | at first I tried 32MB of RAM |
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| 22:01.19 | babilen | tytan: Just don't install the "Desktop" task .. I would still select the "standard" one, but that will not pull in Xorg or anything like that. |
| 22:01.19 | SynrG | i haven't run 128 since lenny |
| 22:01.28 | SynrG | oh, is this a VM? |
| 22:01.53 | tytan | no, it's an iMac G3 from 1998 |
| 22:01.53 | centrx | 96MB without GUI will be fine |
| 22:01.57 | SynrG | aha |
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| 22:02.17 | SynrG | the 128 lenny system was a centaur hauls 233 |
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| 22:02.37 | SynrG | a decpc laptop originally equipped with a P90 |
| 22:02.53 | SynrG | xfce ran fine on that |
| 22:03.17 | tytan | I don't want a GUI ^^ |
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| 22:06.20 | dokma | less ticks me off when searching and it positions on the beginning of the line containing the match and not so that the actual match is visible |
| 22:06.23 | dokma | any cure for that? |
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| 22:09.19 | melt7777 | trying to --buildpkg the amd catalyst drivers into .deb files, running latest wheezy live amd64, For Debian systems, <package> will be one of the following: Debian/sid Debian/unstable Debian/etch Debian/stable Debian/lenny Debian/testing Debian/experimental -- which one do i choose? |
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| 22:12.47 | dondelelcaro | dokma: less is really line based; AFAIK there isn't an option to do that |
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| 22:13.53 | guille | hello |
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| 22:14.09 | guille | why when i push on a magnet link on chrome |
| 22:14.26 | guille | i open a new tab of the browser and not the transmission? |
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| 22:14.59 | melt7777 | guille can u right cllick the link |
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| 22:17.24 | tytan | net install takes forever ^^; |
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| 22:17.59 | Henry151 | hello ladies and gentlemen |
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| 22:18.30 | tytan | Henry151: hello |
| 22:18.46 | Henry151 | For todays challenge, I am trying to figure out why my system settings won't open and my display settings menu entry has vanished |
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| 22:19.18 | tytan | O.o |
| 22:19.20 | Henry151 | i screwed it up somehow while tinkering with my graphics card drivers or something |
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| 22:19.53 | Henry151 | likely the most painless solution will be to just reinstall the whole system. *sigh* |
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| 22:21.36 | instadeath | Henry151: NVIDIA, AMD, or INTEL? |
| 22:21.43 | Henry151 | nvidia |
| 22:21.46 | instadeath | Henry151: oh, and hi by the way. |
| 22:21.55 | Henry151 | hi :) i have a radeon hd3850 |
| 22:22.06 | Henry151 | maybe that's AMD actually |
| 22:22.21 | Henry151 | I tried to manually install some ati legacy drivers. |
| 22:22.30 | instadeath | Derp. I mean ATI |
| 22:22.46 | instadeath | And then the trouble started? |
| 22:23.20 | Henry151 | well, i was tired and it was late and i can't remember all of what i did, but the next day i'm left this trouble |
| 22:23.36 | Henry151 | i did lots of tinkering trying to make my graphics card render videos properly |
| 22:24.03 | Henry151 | loading different drivers and stuff, purging packages and replacing them with other packages, and i think i deleted something i shouldn't or something. |
| 22:24.16 | instadeath | Oooh... yeah. I've been there. |
| 22:24.20 | Henry151 | I want to put the standard xorg.something.something drivers back. |
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| 22:24.46 | instadeath | The Noveau drivers? |
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| 22:24.53 | Henry151 | probably! |
| 22:24.55 | Henry151 | i remember that name |
| 22:25.46 | Henry151 | i remember that whatever it had to begin with was something that they referred to as "xorg.something.something" which may very well have been also called the noveau drivers. |
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| 22:27.04 | Henry151 | on a side note. What's the best way to burn an ISO image to CD from the terminal? |
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| 22:27.27 | melt7777 | maybe apt-get install --reinstall <your window manager such as lxde or whatever> |
| 22:27.35 | Henry151 | by "best" I mean simplest and most elegant |
| 22:27.58 | Henry151 | melt7777: sounds like a good plan, i didn't know about the --reinstall option! |
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| 22:29.00 | Henry151 | i wish i could do "apt-get install --reinstall everything" and it would just reinstall the whole system for me fresh |
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| 22:29.48 | melt7777 | just take a hammer to your machine and then yourself |
| 22:29.55 | melt7777 | resets a ton of stuff |
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| 22:31.40 | Henry151 | something tells me i can't just use dd to burn a cd :/ though i wish i could |
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| 22:32.10 | instadeath | if your desperate and really don't want to do a wipe, may I suggest sgfxi. It's a collection of scripts that automate a lot of graphics driver maintenance. I recall that there is a script in there that does a noveau rollback. |
| 22:32.22 | instadeath | link: smxi.org |
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| 22:33.59 | jimcooncat | what package to I use to install pine? |
| 22:34.24 | ompaul | ,v pine |
| 22:34.25 | judd | No package named 'pine' was found in i386. |
| 22:34.41 | ompaul | jimcooncat: nano is the free thing closest to it |
| 22:34.45 | Jobbe | go for mutt |
| 22:34.54 | jimcooncat | ompaul: nano's an editor |
| 22:35.15 | jimcooncat | Jobbe: tried it, I might fall back to it thanks |
| 22:35.21 | Jobbe | pico == nano |
| 22:35.25 | jimcooncat | thanks ompaul |
| 22:35.32 | Jobbe | pine == mutt =D |
| 22:35.39 | Jobbe | funny |
| 22:35.40 | ompaul | jimcooncat: sorry thinking of pico which I think was the close friend of it |
| 22:35.49 | Jobbe | we just talked about this on EfNET/#Debian |
| 22:35.52 | ompaul | Jobbe: so my memory is unhashed and very confused |
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| 22:36.31 | Jobbe | ompaul: :) i wouldn't have known if not we talked about it on efnet hehe |
| 22:36.55 | instadeath | Henry151: Best of luck man! |
| 22:36.56 | jimcooncat | I'm looking for good cli stuff I can use through ssh/screen from my new old droid |
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| 22:37.16 | Jobbe | jimcooncat: what are you looking to do ? |
| 22:37.19 | ompaul | I used to use them back in the very early 90s |
| 22:37.32 | Henry151 | thanks instadeath: |
| 22:37.32 | Jobbe | ompaul: cool :) |
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| 22:38.41 | Henry151 | i just discovered how there's tty1 and tty2 and etc. and how you can switch between them with ctrl+alt+fkey and i'm all excited about it |
| 22:39.01 | Henry151 | it's way cooler than cool |
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| 22:40.04 | zykotick9 | Henry151: fyi, while in console, just alt+Fn key, or alt+arrow-keys should work... ctrl+alt+Fn only required while in Xorg |
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| 22:41.21 | Henry151 | zykotick9: that's awesome. |
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| 22:41.28 | Henry151 | i love debian. |
| 22:41.30 | causasui | any guess what is causing my system logs to fill up with this? 'mpt-statusd: detected non-optimal RAID status' |
| 22:41.30 | Henry151 | i love linux. |
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| 22:42.39 | causasui | i'm running debian 7 in a virtual machine, remote hosting company |
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| 22:43.00 | ompaul | causasui: send it their admins |
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| 22:47.08 | tytan | meow |
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| 22:49.44 | causasui | ompaul: the error doesn't make sense though because there is no RAID device exposed to the machine. |
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| 22:53.27 | ompaul | causasui: obviously some kernel module thinks there is |
| 22:53.37 | ompaul | causasui: badly build kernel or something |
| 22:54.06 | dagerik | what is preferred way to install dropbox? |
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| 22:56.27 | Henry151 | so, is it possible to run, for example, say, gnome in one tty, and kde in another? |
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| 22:58.13 | tytan_ | netinstallwas a success |
| 23:00.36 | zykotick9 | Henry151: it is. one method "startx -- :1" should start a second Xorg on F8 by default |
| 23:01.08 | berceanu | i would like to stream movies online from my debian server, what software do you recommend? |
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| 23:01.39 | zykotick9 | Henry151: gdmflexiserver was historically another way, but i'm not up on current DM method(s) |
| 23:02.11 | Henry151 | wow |
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| 23:02.18 | Henry151 | what a wonderful world |
| 23:02.20 | berceanu | guys? |
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| 23:02.45 | berceanu | for making my own 'personal' youtube |
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| 23:03.23 | bo` | berceanu: stream over the internet or just on your local network? |
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| 23:03.40 | berceanu | bo`: does it make a difference? |
| 23:03.48 | berceanu | bo`: i would say over the internet |
| 23:04.03 | bo` | yes. locally it is easy to do with samba or nfs filesharing. |
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| 23:04.08 | Gorwell | Hi, synaptics touchpad has suddenly stopped working, how can I restart the module or make something to make it work again? |
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| 23:04.24 | bo` | over the internet is more complicated because of security concerns. |
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| 23:04.39 | berceanu | bo`: ok no, i meant with some kind of streaming server |
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| 23:05.36 | bo` | well you can play movies directly through the network, which technically is streaming. |
| 23:05.41 | dagerik | im getting "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when i try to login via ssh. ssh localhost works fine from within the VM. debian is running in qemu started with qemu-system-x86_64 --enable-kvm -m 512 debian -redir tcp:5555::2222 |
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| 23:06.44 | berceanu | bo`: via http(s)? |
| 23:07.02 | bo` | no. vlc might be able to do that though. |
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| 23:07.10 | bo` | idk. good luck! |
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| 23:07.28 | parallel21 | dagerik: can you tail -F /var/log/syslog and see if an error is thrown when trying to ssh into the vm |
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| 23:08.03 | parallel21 | tail -F on the machine you are trying to ssh into |
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| 23:15.01 | cypherman | hi people |
| 23:15.07 | cypherman | i need help with something |
| 23:15.32 | cypherman | i installed a file server and put some mp3 on it that i share through nfs for the local network |
| 23:16.04 | cypherman | i mount the music folder in client machines and using exaile multimedia player added that folder and indexed all music |
| 23:16.38 | cypherman | i noticed that the music suddenly stops for a couple of seconds and then continues, so this is not working |
| 23:17.11 | cypherman | is there any read aheadsetting that i can setup for the exaile music client fetch the entire mp3? so i wont stop? |
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| 23:24.35 | cypherman | anyone? |
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| 23:26.16 | Aeiri | cypherman: have you tried other mp3 players? |
| 23:26.43 | Aeiri | cypherman: i can stream mp3 over NFS just fine, so you might have a network issue somewhere |
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| 23:27.07 | Aeiri | cypherman: are you using a wifi connection to the NFS server anywhere along the line? I have found wifi+NFS dont like each other in my experience |
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| 23:28.37 | cypherman | yes |
| 23:28.42 | cypherman | nfs+wifi |
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| 23:29.42 | Aeiri | cypherman: i prefer smb over wifi... i use NFS for servers and hard lines |
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| 23:41.38 | karmine | hello debian users |
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| 23:42.03 | karmine | 1385 users....wow |
| 23:42.17 | karmine | i dont think ive seen so many people in one channel......and no chat |
| 23:42.28 | causasui | !ask |
| 23:42.28 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 23:42.33 | karmine | :P |
| 23:42.50 | karmine | !i have a problem with ati radeon HDMI drivers |
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| 23:43.32 | centrx | What is that problem |
| 23:43.45 | centrx | ... |
| 23:43.46 | karmine | ill take query if possible if any of you have figured this issue out |
| 23:43.54 | karmine | well lets see |
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| 23:44.04 | karmine | sound plays 200x fast |
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| 23:44.11 | karmine | and youtube videos the same |
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| 23:44.44 | karmine | no sound......and video skip like........i dont have any example for it |
| 23:45.04 | karmine | didnt do this for my onboard soundcard though |
| 23:45.22 | karmine | its pure HDMI issues and ati/amd support is useless |
| 23:45.51 | karmine | google has provided......some assurance but its only for "ubuntu" |
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| 23:46.14 | karmine | my distro doesnt have the upgraded kernel that supposedly fixes the issue |
| 23:46.18 | centrx | Which driver are you using? |
| 23:46.23 | centrx | Which distro is that? |
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| 23:47.05 | karmine | the standard one that came with my distro. ive tried to use AMD's beta nix driver but its a .run file......and im new to that type of file |
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| 23:47.22 | karmine | kali linux |
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| 23:47.48 | karmine | its one of very FEW problems i have with the distro |
| 23:48.27 | karmine | ive worked kali into a gaming platform etc.....except for kernel issues and glibc |
| 23:49.04 | karmine | tempted to go back back to slack...... |
| 23:49.09 | centrx | karmine, Okay, well I don't know about Kali, but Debian comes with the free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon, or the non-free driver fglrx-driver |
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| 23:49.21 | Brigo | karmine, i really sorry but ... |
| 23:49.25 | Brigo | !kali |
| 23:49.25 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 23:49.27 | karmine | yes.......and i got that via apt-get |
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| 23:49.33 | karmine | i have all that |
| 23:49.49 | karmine | but the kernel version doesnt support that driver |
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| 23:49.59 | karmine | they are behind in the kernel version |
| 23:50.33 | karmine | the kernel that fixes is it is supposedly 13.9a i believe......and kali is still 13.7? |
| 23:50.40 | themill | ask them? |
| 23:50.47 | karmine | im banned |
| 23:50.54 | Brigo | XD |
| 23:50.57 | karmine | lol |
| 23:51.02 | ctmjr | wonders why |
| 23:51.03 | centrx | karmine, I thought Kali was a penetration testing distribution, not a general-purpose/multimedia distribution? |
| 23:51.06 | themill | that doesn't make your question on-topic here. |
| 23:51.09 | karmine | i changed 3 isp's and somehow im still banned |
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| 23:51.20 | karmine | wennt cent |
| 23:51.24 | karmine | well |
| 23:51.41 | karmine | it is a pentest but it does include tools for gaming etc etc |
| 23:51.59 | Brigo | is there "preventive" bans? i am only asking ... |
| 23:52.05 | karmine | otherwise it would just be another 80gb hackstro |
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| 23:52.16 | karmine | 80mb i mean |
| 23:52.39 | themill | karmine: please take it to #kali-linux |
| 23:52.42 | karmine | hackers are hackers |
| 23:52.50 | karmine | how can i? |
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