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| 00:01.15 | tremon | m09: yes, try again tomorrow. Alternatively, you could try adding unstable to your sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get -s install wine:i386 (note the -s, simulate). At least that should tell you if the problem can be resolved by waiting |
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| 00:01.34 | m09 | I'll do that, thanks :) |
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| 00:02.09 | tremon | don't forget to remove unstable before you run apt-get upgrade again. Or, add apt::default-release "jessie" to your apt.conf.d |
| 00:02.24 | m09 | I'll remove it just after the test yep |
| 00:03.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | johnfg: apt-cache policy pkg does it, IIRC |
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| 00:04.40 | tremon | somewhat. apt-cache policy only shows what's in the local apt cache. If you don't have testing in your sources.list (and you shouldn't, if running stable) it won't show up |
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| 00:05.16 | johnfg | tremon: thanks! |
| 00:05.33 | mrdeb | hey guys when is 7.5 point release going to hapen |
| 00:07.53 | tremon | mrdeb: take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy#Release_and_updates and make your best guess |
| 00:08.13 | mrdeb | what guess |
| 00:08.17 | mrdeb | it should be set in stone |
| 00:08.22 | tremon | it isn't |
| 00:08.38 | mrdeb | so april is that it |
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| 00:08.48 | tremon | probably. Or May |
| 00:08.55 | mrdeb | cool |
| 00:08.59 | mrdeb | how long is debian 6 going to go on |
| 00:09.40 | tremon | probably until the end of May. I don't know if an EOL date has been set yet |
| 00:09.45 | klys | a better question might be, what percentage of debian 6 has been updated |
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| 00:10.10 | Nik05 | klys updated to what? |
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| 00:10.21 | Arrowmaster | when debian 7 is one year old then debian 6 is EOL |
| 00:10.24 | klys | newer than debian lenny |
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| 00:10.46 | mrdeb | what aobut debian8 |
| 00:10.50 | mrdeb | when will that be out |
| 00:11.00 | Nik05 | after the freeze |
| 00:11.14 | klys | all the gtk packages between 7 and 8 are same version |
| 00:11.17 | centrx | It will become warm, then it will become cold, then it will become warm again |
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| 00:13.11 | tremon | mrdeb: judging from past releases, wheezy will be EOL exactly one year after wheezy's release. So, that would be 2014-05-04 (yyyy-mm-dd) |
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| 00:13.24 | tremon | err, squeeze will be EOL obviously |
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| 00:14.26 | mrdeb | so it is probably not good to install squeeze now |
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| 00:16.10 | johnfg | When I get this error msg, when going to backport php5: |
| 00:16.16 | johnfg | E: Build-Depends dependency for php5 cannot be satisfied because the package apache2-dev cannot be found. |
| 00:16.41 | MACscr | hmm, why is my modprobe not working on boot? http://hastebin.com/vebugugete.vbs |
| 00:16.45 | johnfg | Does that mean I need to backport apache2-dev, or I can just install it from wheezy? |
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| 00:18.05 | johnfg | And is it better to do the backport myself vs. installing from sid or jessie (per the DebianUnstable page)? |
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| 00:18.46 | tremon | johnfg: for wheezy, you need either apache2-prefork-dev or apache2-threaded-dev. Don't know which one though |
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| 00:19.11 | tremon | probably the one corresponding to the apache mpm style you're running now |
| 00:19.36 | tremon | it's definitely better to do the backport yourself |
| 00:19.38 | brianjaod | anyone here used fbi in a programtic way to send image to the frame buffer? using system() in my C code, I'm trying to use it but I don't see a way to change the image in code, only through manual keyboard commands. |
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| 00:21.27 | tremon | johnfg: after installing either of those, you probably need to edit the debian/control file to reflect the changed dependency, or dpkg-buildpackage will keep complaining |
| 00:22.30 | johnfg | tremon: I've done a number of backports before, so that shouldn't be a problem. |
| 00:22.48 | tremon | good. just making sure :) |
| 00:23.12 | tremon | gtg now. best of luck |
| 00:23.13 | johnfg | At present I'm running apache2-2.2.22-13+deb7u1 |
| 00:23.30 | johnfg | tremon: ttyl |
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| 00:25.16 | tremon | I remember there used to be mpm-prefork and mpm-worker binary packages, maybe that's changed now. Not a web admin :) |
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| 00:29.15 | johnfg | Well, that's that answer: apache2-dev isn't available for wheezy, so it will need to come from sid or jessie too. |
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| 00:31.35 | johnfg | I'll just wait. Too many unsatisfied dependencies for me to backport php5.5.9. |
| 00:31.56 | mrdeb | yes |
| 00:32.06 | mrdeb | what is a good font for web browsing |
| 00:32.23 | johnfg | mrdeb: whatever you like |
| 00:32.30 | mrdeb | terminus |
| 00:32.34 | mrdeb | but too small for some sites |
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| 00:32.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | Er, why would you use a monospaced font for a website? |
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| 00:33.05 | mrdeb | bec it is very crisp |
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| 00:33.10 | mrdeb | other fonts ar bad |
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| 00:33.29 | mrdeb | i replaced all fonts in debian for sans with terminus substitution in /etc/fonts.conf |
| 00:33.48 | mrdeb | it works good for gnome. also replaced cantarell |
| 00:36.00 | mrdeb | ok? |
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| 00:36.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: using a bitmap, monospaced font for everything doesn't seem appropriate |
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| 00:37.17 | mrdeb | Eduard_Munteanu: it looks good |
| 00:37.30 | mrdeb | defaults fonts look awful |
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| 00:38.10 | mrdeb | i also like droid sans but in default debian it doesnt look good |
| 00:38.26 | MouseTheLuckyDog | What does -fnoninteractive as a CLI arg to debconf-communicate? |
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| 00:38.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: what if you need other sizes, say in a browser? |
| 00:39.01 | mrdeb | it has other size |
| 00:39.09 | mrdeb | terminus changes size too |
| 00:39.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | Yes, but it's bitmapped. |
| 00:39.25 | mrdeb | so what |
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| 00:39.32 | mrdeb | all i know is it looks very sharp |
| 00:39.44 | mrdeb | my whole gnome system is al lterminus |
| 00:39.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: so it doesn't scale nicely, you don't get antialiasing... |
| 00:39.54 | mrdeb | bec default font was ugly and fat |
| 00:40.07 | mrdeb | yes antialiasing is blurry and bad |
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| 00:40.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: depends how you configure it |
| 00:40.53 | mrdeb | well u cant configure much in gnome |
| 00:41.04 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: if you have an LCD display, try infinality |
| 00:41.16 | mrdeb | what is that |
| 00:41.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | A bunch of tweaks to font rendering to provide better antialiasing, prevent fringing etc |
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| 00:43.21 | zinx | i use DejaVu Sans with horizontal RGB subpixel antialiasing and full font hinting |
| 00:44.01 | Eduard_Munteanu | We shouldn't have to use monospaced fonts at all in 2014, but things haven't evolved much unfortunately. |
| 00:44.03 | zinx | the full font hinting bit gets rid of pretty much all the blurry |
| 00:44.11 | mrdeb | hmm |
| 00:44.20 | mrdeb | well i like terminus and use it all the time |
| 00:44.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: greyscale antialiasing tends to make things blurry, yes |
| 00:44.25 | zinx | there are a few applications (ok, only Chrome) that don't support it though :P |
| 00:44.28 | mrdeb | it works good on all sites, except one where it is very small |
| 00:45.14 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: subpixel AA is pretty blurry still, without hinting :/ |
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| 00:46.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | zinx: are you talking about autohinting, as opposed to the patented TrueType hinting? |
| 00:46.24 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: whatever gets used in Debian when i turn on full font hinting :P |
| 00:47.11 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hm, dunno then. The Freetype autohinter tends to change the look of the font quite a bit. |
| 00:47.23 | mrdeb | where is hinting setting |
| 00:47.34 | zinx | dunno. i'd rather have a slightly different looking font than a slightly blurry font. |
| 00:47.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | zinx: for me the biggest issue was preventing fringing with subpixel AA |
| 00:47.56 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: gamma issue? |
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| 00:48.02 | zinx | gamma/colorspace |
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| 00:48.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | zinx: not really... confusing display settings and somewhat bad hinting in fontconfig without infinality/lcdfilter |
| 00:49.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | zinx: and my eyes getting used to an LCD display, I had been using a CRT till then |
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| 00:50.35 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: dunno. worksforme and i have no idea what infinality is. |
| 00:50.59 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: i had to stop using CRTs because they stared all being shadow invar mask, which is the absolute worst f'n thing they could have possibly done |
| 00:51.25 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: straight horizontal/vertical lines aren't even straight on shadow invar mask CRTs >_< |
| 00:51.30 | zinx | they're all jaggedy |
| 00:51.39 | zinx | because the pixels are arranged in triangles >_< |
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| 00:52.28 | Eduard_Munteanu | CRT phosphorus tends to emit blurry pixels, not well-defined shapes, though. |
| 00:52.47 | linguini | Why does apache run as "www-data" on Debian (and not just "www')? |
| 00:52.55 | Eduard_Munteanu | You're unlikely to be able to see subpixels on CRTs. |
| 00:53.15 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: i dunno about subpixels, but i could sure as hell see the jagged straight horizontal/vertical lines |
| 00:53.16 | linguini | I want to rsync files between a Debian-based machine (uses www-data) and a Mac (uses www). |
| 00:53.24 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: annoyed the crap out of me |
| 00:54.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | zinx: this seems to talk about infinality and lcdfilter, in case you might want to check it out: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_Configuration |
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| 00:55.00 | MisterE | could anyone please tell me what went wrong with gcc here? http://pastebin.com/0gV2iaQn |
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| 00:55.43 | nell | http://pastebin.com/vAsDAp1x |
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| 00:55.47 | nell | this is what happens when i try to install x11vnc |
| 00:56.11 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: lemme guess, you were using the default lcdfilter? yeah, i'm not. |
| 00:56.48 | Eduard_Munteanu | zinx: I wasn't using 'lcdfilter' at all |
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| 00:59.21 | conroe | some sites suggest that getting XBMC frodo working in wheezy isnt gonna happen. i though id hear you guys out before even attempting it= |
| 01:00.02 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: infinality looks pretty stupid tbqh |
| 01:00.52 | centrx | conroe, I'm sure it would work. It may be easier to use Ubuntu because that is the development target and all the advice you find online will be applicable to Ubuntu. |
| 01:01.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | zinx: in what way? |
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| 01:02.43 | zinx | Eduard_Munteanu: made by people buying in to the typographer BS - fuzzy up the fonts then resharpen them? WTF. |
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| 01:02.54 | mrdeb | will debian 8 use gnome 3.10 |
| 01:03.25 | dvs | Who knows what will be released by then. |
| 01:03.31 | conroe | mr_red, wheezy is 3.08? |
| 01:03.42 | conroe | or? |
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| 01:03.56 | mrdeb | what |
| 01:04.02 | mrdeb | deb 7 is 3.4.2 |
| 01:04.09 | conroe | ah |
| 01:04.20 | Imbue | does anyone know how I can get wpa_supplicant to be a bit more verbose during ifup/ifdown? |
| 01:04.24 | Imbue | or where I would look at the logs? |
| 01:04.30 | mrdeb | i dont see anything good about gnome 3.10 |
| 01:04.40 | mrdeb | they took out access menu and options |
| 01:04.53 | Imbue | i have been having a problem with DHCP failing and I now think that actually the AP is not associated so it is simply sending broadcast into the void |
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| 01:05.30 | Imbue | but it is hard to see because during ifup only dhclient is non-silent |
| 01:05.46 | Wyboth | Hi, everyone! I'm trying to install Debian 7 on an old XP machine with a USB drive. However, I can't get grub or LILO to install correctly. I also don't have internet set up yet. Can anyone help me with GRUB/LILO? |
| 01:05.59 | Imbue | what happens Wyboth ? |
| 01:06.09 | Wyboth | In the installer? |
| 01:06.39 | Nik05 | lilo doesnt work either? |
| 01:06.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: "I can't get ... to install" isn't much of a specific symptom |
| 01:06.45 | Wyboth | It says grub failed to load, and lilo exits with error 127, I think. |
| 01:07.09 | Wyboth | What should I be more specific about? |
| 01:07.15 | Nik05 | oh thats not the failed to write mbr bug |
| 01:07.45 | Wyboth | Neither LILO nor Grub can install. |
| 01:08.04 | Wyboth | I used Super GRUB2 to load the OS, but I don't want to keep doing that forever. |
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| 01:08.29 | Nik05 | well when booted install grub-pc and install it on mbr |
| 01:08.43 | Wyboth | What's the command for that? |
| 01:08.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: any other output? Have you tried installing it manually by booting the rescue environment and chrooting? |
| 01:09.06 | mrdeb | hey |
| 01:09.06 | mrdeb | how do u run win 2000 in deb 7 |
| 01:09.24 | Wyboth | I haven't tried that yet. I'll try Nik05's suggestion first, since I already have it booted. |
| 01:09.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: you make a VM, say using virt-manager |
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| 01:09.51 | Nik05 | Wyboth you have internet right? |
| 01:09.54 | mrdeb | waht do i apt-get install |
| 01:10.09 | Wyboth | Not on the machine I loaded Debian on. |
| 01:10.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | Search for 'virt-manager'. |
| 01:10.18 | Wyboth | That's a separate issue, Ithink. |
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| 01:10.29 | Nik05 | apt-get update && apt-get install grub-pc |
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| 01:10.50 | Wyboth | Okay, I'll try that. Be right back. |
| 01:10.57 | Nik05 | oh no internet? |
| 01:10.58 | mrdeb | ed it said experimetnal |
| 01:11.04 | Wyboth | No internet. |
| 01:11.30 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: what do you mean? |
| 01:11.43 | Nik05 | oh uh somehere that know how to get packages from usb/dvd/cd? |
| 01:11.58 | Nik05 | but Wyboth is grub installed? |
| 01:11.59 | mrdeb | in add/rem software it foudn it, but it said it was experimental |
| 01:12.09 | Wyboth | No, that's what I'm trying to do. |
| 01:12.23 | Wyboth | It couldn'tinstall from the Wheezy wizard. |
| 01:12.55 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: I don't think so... https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=virt-manager |
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| 01:13.36 | mrdeb | so can i use this to install win 2000 into file/os |
| 01:13.45 | MisterE | could anyone please tell me what went wrong with gcc here? http://pastebin.com/0gV2iaQn |
| 01:13.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: boot a rescue system or this one if you can, and install it manually (or try to). |
| 01:13.56 | Nik05 | Wyboth really strange |
| 01:14.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: "into file/os"? |
| 01:14.35 | mrdeb | yes to run in window in debian |
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| 01:14.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | mrdeb: yeah |
| 01:14.47 | Wyboth | Okay, I'll try that. |
| 01:14.53 | mrdeb | pl |
| 01:14.56 | mrdeb | ok |
| 01:15.11 | Nik05 | Wyboth dpkg -l | grep grub |
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| 01:15.17 | Nik05 | what do you get? |
| 01:15.23 | Imbue | okay, yes. |
| 01:15.44 | Imbue | sometimes during ifup wpa_supplicant silently fails to associate with the AP. what can I do to 'fix' this? |
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| 01:25.07 | Wyboth | Eduard_Munteanu: Okay. I have SuperGRUB2 upnow. How do I boot in rescue mode? |
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| 01:26.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: if you boot your installation just boot it normally |
| 01:26.51 | Wyboth | Then what? |
| 01:27.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: then login as root and install GRUB manually |
| 01:27.16 | Wyboth | It won't allow root logins. |
| 01:27.27 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: login as the normal user and sudo then |
| 01:27.42 | Wyboth | What's the command to install it? |
| 01:28.09 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: grub-install or grub2-install but read the manpage / help |
| 01:28.16 | Wyboth | Note that I don't have an internet connection. |
| 01:28.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: that's ok as long as the installation finished (aside from the GRUB failure) |
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| 01:28.50 | Wyboth | Alright. I'll try that. |
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| 01:32.35 | Wyboth | It said command not found for both of them. |
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| 01:33.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: you were supposed to read about it first :) |
| 01:33.49 | Wyboth | Sorry! Do I type man to read the man pages? |
| 01:33.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: actually... try this first... |
| 01:34.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | Wyboth: dpkg-reconfigure --force grub-pc |
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| 01:34.19 | Wyboth | Okay, I'll try that. |
| 01:34.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | (and yes, using 'man' or google for the manpage) |
| 01:36.22 | Wyboth | Error: package 'grub-pc' is not installed. |
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| 01:36.55 | Eduard_Munteanu | How did you install it without grub? |
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| 01:37.42 | Wyboth | I loaded the kde iso onto a USB drive, then booted the live version from that and ran Wheezy install. |
| 01:38.24 | Wyboth | Every step worked except configuring the network, installing grub, and installing lilo. |
| 01:38.26 | dvs | Wyboth: What? No wonder why it didnt work |
| 01:38.42 | Wyboth | What did I do wrong? |
| 01:39.08 | dvs | Wyboth: you don't need both the live version and the kde iso. YOu only need the kde iso |
| 01:39.30 | Wyboth | I only downloaded 1 iso. |
| 01:39.51 | Wyboth | And wrote it to the USB drive. |
| 01:39.54 | dvs | then where did you get the live iso? |
| 01:40.09 | dvs | the live version, excuse me. |
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| 01:40.18 | Wyboth | Let me check if I got the live version or not. |
| 01:40.36 | dvs | Wyboth: you just said "booted the live version" |
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| 01:41.33 | Wyboth | I see now, it was the live version. |
| 01:41.50 | dvs | You only need the kde iso. |
| 01:41.50 | Wyboth | I'll get the non-live iso and try again, I guess? |
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| 01:42.19 | dvs | Wyboth: write the kde iso directly to the USB flash drive and boot off of that. |
| 01:42.41 | Wyboth | Okay, will do. |
| 01:43.12 | dvs | Wyboth: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 01:43.49 | Wyboth | I found this list: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 01:44.06 | Wyboth | I want this one, right? debian-7.4.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 01:44.14 | dvs | That will work. |
| 01:44.25 | Imbue | sorry to keep popping in and out, I am fixing an issue on this machine. |
| 01:44.37 | Imbue | wpa_supplicant: wlan0: SME: Trying to authenticate with..... every 2 seconds, forever. ifdown ifup... same problem. until one ifdown ifup combo, when it magically works first time. |
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| 01:44.45 | Wyboth | Alright. Thanks for being patient with me. I'll come back soon with my results. |
| 01:44.49 | Imbue | what could be causing this? it seems like a driver issue, so odd |
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| 01:48.10 | kcodyjr | is there a way to make wheezy use dhcpcd rather than dhclient? |
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| 01:48.59 | sabotender | i need help updating a couple of dependencies. I need libc6 >= 2.15 and libgcrypt11 >= 1.5.1 |
| 01:49.20 | dvs | ,v libc6 |
| 01:49.22 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u1; jessie: 2.17-97; experimental: 2.18-0experimental1; sid: 2.18-1 |
| 01:50.03 | sabotender | I am not sure what any of that means |
| 01:50.23 | dvs | It means youre not using Debian wheezy. |
| 01:50.47 | sabotender | hmm...I might be? |
| 01:50.50 | centrx | Why do you need those? |
| 01:50.58 | sabotender | all I know is basic apt-get install stuff |
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| 01:52.50 | sabotender | deb is missing too :-( |
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| 01:57.33 | themill | sabotender: what are you really trying to do? |
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| 02:00.12 | sabotender | I found 2.18 version. for some reason deb (address) does not work so I have to download and install them manually via dpkg -i |
| 02:00.32 | dvs | tthat's a sure why to screw up a system. |
| 02:00.44 | themill | sabotender: wait. What are actually trying to achieve here |
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| 02:01.26 | sabotender | themill: I need to update some versions because the current versions are old, dependency problem |
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| 02:01.55 | sabotender | bash: deb: command not found |
| 02:02.46 | themill | sabotender: that's not an answer to my question |
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| 02:03.55 | sabotender | why not? the current version of libc6 is too old and it is causing a dependency issue, so I have to update it to a version higher than 2.15 |
| 02:04.14 | dvs | dependency on what? |
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| 02:04.44 | sabotender | I'm not sure why that matters, but steam |
| 02:04.59 | themill | because we could tell you how to actually do that... |
| 02:05.03 | themill | !xy problem |
| 02:05.04 | dpkg | People often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
| 02:05.19 | themill | sabotender: if you're trying to install packages where dependencies are not met, you're doing it all wrong |
| 02:06.12 | sabotender | I am trying to resolve the dependency problem so I can install the packages that I want... |
| 02:06.25 | themill | gives up |
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| 02:08.29 | sabotender | I am fairly certain that is how it works, if there is a dependency issue, resolve the issue and you will be able to install the software |
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| 02:11.06 | sabotender | ...i dislike asking questions in *nix channels. too many l337ist ppl in here expect you to know everything, but that is cool |
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| 02:14.03 | Imbue | hmm |
| 02:14.09 | centrx | sabotender, I really looks like you are the elitest one who won't tell us what you are doing because you know best. |
| 02:14.21 | Imbue | what tricks can I do to make debian run faster from a USB drive (it has slow access speed) |
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| 02:14.37 | sabotender | centrx I just said that I am trying to install STEAM |
| 02:14.46 | sabotender | STEAM STEAM STEAM STEAM O_o |
| 02:15.06 | themill | Imbue: popping various bits into tmpfs can help (/tmp as well as places in $HOME that have cached stuff) |
| 02:15.08 | Imbue | things such as apt-get install take a long time presumably due to slow disc access, can I somehow cache everything more? I don't really worry about power outage |
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| 02:15.35 | Imbue | themill: let's say that I want the whole system in RAM and only commit every minute or so, is this possible? |
| 02:15.45 | themill | Imbue: is apt faster on the second invocation? |
| 02:15.48 | Imbue | themill: my SD card is 2GB and my ram is 3GB, i think i can manage it, lol |
| 02:16.00 | sabotender | steam requires libc6 version 2.15 or higher. I currently have 2.13 installed |
| 02:16.04 | Imbue | themill: well this is not possible to say, because the application is already installed then :P |
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| 02:16.41 | themill | Imbue: you can just run "apt-get upgrade" and then say n. |
| 02:16.55 | Imbue | themill: the installation stages are the slow ones |
| 02:17.12 | Imbue | themill: it seems to be stalling to ensure a write or something |
| 02:17.27 | Imbue | basically I want disk caching to be very aggressive, since the entire FS can fit into ram without issue |
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| 02:18.10 | Imbue | perhaps there are some mount options I can use? I would make it all a ramdisk and load it in on boot if I had some way of committing to disk regularly |
| 02:18.12 | themill | Imbue: yes, dpkg is very picky about writing to disk. You can disable that with eatmydata (the name is significant) but I'd not really worry too much about this since you won't be installing stuff very often |
| 02:18.29 | themill | Imbue: the kernel will already cache stuff in memory |
| 02:18.39 | Imbue | themill: my worry is that $some_program will be picky about writing too |
| 02:18.54 | Imbue | or that if I move files around using mv, cp and so on the same will happen |
| 02:20.16 | Imbue | well, can I get it to cache more? i mean, it can prefetch while it is not doing anything |
| 02:20.31 | Imbue | to read the entire drive would take something like 1 minute |
| 02:21.46 | Imbue | my live system seems to be failing to cache even, unless I am missing something |
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| 02:23.26 | sabotender | I get 'installing libc6 would break locales, and deconfiguration is not permitted' :-( |
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| 02:27.09 | Imbue | themill: oh, I see now. /tmp is not in tmpfs. why would this be the case? seems odd |
| 02:27.12 | themill | Imbue: there are prefetching tools already in debian. The crudest would just be a find + cat from /etc/rc.local that walks the filesystem and loads stuff |
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| 02:28.00 | themill | Imbue: tmp on tmpfs can speed up many tasks but also risks data loss. Have a look in /etc/default/tmpfs |
| 02:28.43 | Imbue | data loss of what, though? what uses /tmp? |
| 02:29.17 | Imbue | and is this in the powerdown scenario only? |
| 02:29.54 | Imbue | i am using a laptop with fully charged battery 99% of the time, so that would only be vulnerable to some sort of hard hang |
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| 02:43.41 | jvelasquez_ | hey. you know when you apt-get upgrade, how you sometimes see a | less, with a list of the changes, I can I save that list to read in detail over the next week? |
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| 02:48.34 | thims | jvelasquez_: "apt-get upgrade > upgrade.log"? |
| 02:49.31 | thims | That or write a script to give you a list of the changes based off of /var/log/apt/history.log? |
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| 02:51.32 | jvelasquez_ | ahh!! pressing: v will start an editor! |
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| 02:51.54 | jvelasquez_ | thims, thanks, it was your tip that led me to the answer. |
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| 03:07.02 | \shawn | hi people. |
| 03:07.36 | \shawn | just want to say thank you for helping people :) |
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| 03:20.30 | thims | jvelasquez_: I did not completely understand the question, but wung it. You are welcome. I guess Jesus is always looking out. ;) |
| 03:20.49 | thims | \shawn: It is what the Open Source community does. ;) |
| 03:20.50 | ectospasm | thims: whether you like it or not (-; |
| 03:21.31 | thims | ectospasm: I don't have enough time in this lifetime to express to you how much I like it. ;) |
| 03:21.56 | ectospasm | like, what, Debian? Debian pwns |
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| 03:22.12 | ectospasm | !ot |
| 03:22.12 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 03:22.58 | centrx | !jesus |
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| 03:24.50 | ectospasm | I'm looking for a good CLI CD ripper. abcde is close, but the manual is piss poor, and the tagging/file naming options are underwhelming. Anybody got any other suggestions? |
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| 03:29.12 | just_one | hello to all debian users |
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| 03:30.32 | therealGent | Hello all. I am trying to get an init script to work. I noticed it uses start-stop-daemon to run the daemon, but for some reason it doesn't end up running despite a return code of 0. |
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| 03:31.03 | therealGent | I tried running it manually and noticed it works fine, except for when i add the --chuid and --user options to switch the execution to another user. Does anyone have an idea why this happens? |
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| 03:33.17 | centrx | therealGent, How are you running it manually? |
| 03:33.27 | therealGent | centrx, in a shell as root. |
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| 03:33.44 | centrx | therealGent, With what command? |
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| 03:34.18 | therealGent | start-stop-daemon --start --background --quiet --exec /usr/bin/mydaemon |
| 03:34.25 | centrx | Usually init scripts are run with /etc/init.d/<script> ? |
| 03:34.41 | therealGent | that works fine. But adding --chuid myuser --user myuser breaks it |
| 03:34.48 | therealGent | centrx, this is what the init script itself uses. |
| 03:34.56 | therealGent | That is where i suspect it is failing, and im right. |
| 03:34.57 | therealGent | At that line. |
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| 03:43.11 | nell | I partitioned swap space on my harddrive, how do I update my system to use it now? |
| 03:43.48 | anonnumberanon | Your system is probably using it right now. |
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| 03:44.07 | nell | htop says otherwise |
| 03:44.08 | anonnumberanon | http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space |
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| 03:45.37 | nell | kk |
| 03:45.39 | nell | swapon |
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| 03:47.24 | frosty_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D55ATSO9L1k |
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| 03:56.14 | larks | in my .wine file, system32 is empty... |
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| 03:56.45 | larks | well directory, it's not a file lol |
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| 04:01.41 | larks | seems that /usr/share/wine/wine.inf is missing |
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| 04:31.01 | drewery | I am debating between ubuntu and debian now... |
| 04:31.57 | drewery | or not |
| 04:33.46 | centrx | What kind of debate is that? |
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| 04:36.14 | drewery | I have a new server |
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| 04:36.59 | drewery | I am going to install a new OS and boiled it down to debian 7.0 and ubuntu ...however I think I am going with debian |
| 04:37.27 | drewery | I can't make a decision since I don't have any variables for either system for me to compare anything so I am just reading articles so far |
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| 04:39.59 | centrx | drewery, What are the main considerations for your server? |
| 04:40.36 | drewery | it will be basic web server initially |
| 04:41.29 | drewery | will be hosting a blog and experiments on server administration |
| 04:42.58 | drewery | I will be going with good olde debian... I actually was wondering what attracted this many people to ubuntu in the short amount of time... but whatever |
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| 04:43.50 | centrx | Ubuntu has marketing and is marketed as "user-friendly" |
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| 04:46.01 | drewery | ahhh, then let me go and pop in this 7.0 and reboot very quick |
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| 04:51.41 | rryoumaa | the selling point of ubuntu was originally debian on a release schedule |
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| 05:09.31 | mongaj_ | a friend of mine is having a problem with wheezy. When he is installing mysqlclient 5.5 and apt says it is unpacking, it immediately goes into reboot |
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| 05:10.53 | centrx | mongaj_, Sounds like a hardware failure to be honest |
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| 05:11.57 | arnab | hello all |
| 05:12.03 | mongaj_ | centrx: would i use dmesg to diagnose that? |
| 05:12.47 | centrx | mongaj_, /var/log/dmesg.0 would have last boot's dmesg |
| 05:12.58 | mongaj_ | floby: ok thanks |
| 05:13.00 | centrx | Might be something in /var/log/syslog, messages, etc. |
| 05:13.03 | mongaj_ | ok thanks |
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| 05:22.08 | leoleo11 | hello |
| 05:22.49 | leoleo11 | how can i upgrade to the latest kernel? it seems that in the latest kernel theres no need to apply a patch for acer c720 |
| 05:23.33 | beadle | leo, What release are you running? |
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| 05:27.35 | beadle | leoleo11, what release of debian are you running? If you are running wheezy, I suggest googling "Debian backports". |
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| 05:42.05 | jair | excuse me guys, I cannot remember the name we use in Linux to map the ip addresses to hosts mac addresses in dhcp |
| 05:42.11 | jair | fixed address? |
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| 05:42.37 | jair | could be but it has its own name well know technically |
| 05:42.53 | jair | reserved addresses |
| 05:43.28 | leoleo11 | is anyone using a chromebook here? |
| 05:43.46 | leoleo11 | im trying to get the brightness and touchpad working |
| 05:44.02 | centrx | jair, It is done using the ARP protocol if that is what you mean |
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| 05:47.23 | jair | centrx: hmm alright that is the protocol, but normally dhcp language kind of talk the concept is reserved addresses? mapped addresses? they are still assigned via dhcp but they will always go to the specific host |
| 05:47.40 | jair | centrx: specially if I am doing some network install using pxe as well |
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| 05:50.22 | nell | http://pastebin.com/mNF6VmEd |
| 05:50.25 | nell | i messed up my compose key |
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| 05:50.32 | nell | and now xev wont even recognize my super button |
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| 05:51.05 | centrx | jair, The DHCP server remembers the mapping for past clients and gives them the same address when they ask for a DHCP-assigned address |
| 05:51.45 | beadle | leoleo11, I asked what release you are trying to use. I know very little about chromebooks, but like I said, if you are running wheezy and want a newer kernel, do a web search for "debian backports". |
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| 05:52.42 | jair | centrx: Thank you |
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| 05:57.24 | leoleo11 | how do i update to the latest stable kernel? i already added backportts |
| 05:57.40 | leoleo11 | running wheezy |
| 05:59.12 | LtL | leoleo11: if you've run apt-get update, do a apt-cache search linux-image |
| 05:59.21 | beadle | well, let's start with running "uname -r" in the terminal to see what you're at right now. |
| 05:59.21 | leoleo11 | it says i need to download 700 mb |
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| 05:59.44 | leoleo11 | beadle: i have this right now |
| 05:59.46 | leoleo11 | root@debian:/home/debian# uname -r 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 06:00.21 | beadle | Ok, that's stock for wheezy. |
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| 06:00.49 | leoleo11 | beadle: yeah, how do i update it? i installes the OS today |
| 06:01.31 | LtL | leoleo11: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 06:02.49 | beadle | Yeah, do what LTL said to get any possible updates first. |
| 06:02.51 | leoleo11 | LtL: did it already, didnt work |
| 06:03.21 | leoleo11 | beadle: what else could i do? |
| 06:03.28 | LtL | leoleo11: what is telling you that you need 700MB? |
| 06:03.32 | leoleo11 | how do i chose only one kernel so i dont download 700 mb? |
| 06:03.51 | beadle | Ok, now do "aptitude -t wheezy-backports install xxxxxxxx" replacing xxxxxx with a kernel. Let me google for a moment. |
| 06:03.57 | leoleo11 | The following extra packages will be installed: cryptsetup dmraid dracut firmware-linux-free kpartx libdmraid1.0.0.rc16 lvm2 mdadm Suggested packages: dracut-network linux-doc-3.12 debian-kernel-handbook The following packages will be REMOVED: initramfs-tools The following NEW packages will be installed: cryptsetup dmraid dracut firmware-linux-free kpartx libdmraid1.0.0.rc16 linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 linux-image-3.12-0 |
| 06:04.07 | leoleo11 | beadle: ok ill wait |
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| 06:04.39 | beadle | are you familliar with using the tab key for command autocomplete? |
| 06:04.46 | LtL | leoleo11: paste your sources.list please paste.debian.net |
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| 06:05.22 | leoleo11 | LtL: didnt see any errors |
| 06:05.29 | leoleo11 | will show you though... |
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| 06:06.17 | tx0h_ | these dependencies really suck. |
| 06:06.28 | leoleo11 | LtL: here they are |
| 06:06.39 | leoleo11 | http://paste.debian.net/83462/ |
| 06:06.47 | leoleo11 | beadle: did you find anything? |
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| 06:07.35 | beadle | $ sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-3.12-1.bpo.3-amd64 |
| 06:07.42 | beadle | see if that works |
| 06:07.57 | LtL | leoleo11: did you do an upgrade before you tried to install a new kernel? |
| 06:08.01 | beadle | I run testing so I don't know if thats exactly right. |
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| 06:08.37 | LtL | beadle: he shouldn't need the headers |
| 06:08.55 | leoleo11 | beadle: i didnt |
| 06:09.06 | leoleo11 | beadle: E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.12-1.bpo.3-amd64 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.12-1.bpo.3-amd64' |
| 06:09.19 | leoleo11 | whats wrong? |
| 06:09.33 | leoleo11 | its really annoying not being able to use the touchpad |
| 06:10.05 | LtL | leoleo11: according to your sources.list i doubt youre running testing. what does cat /etc/debian_version say |
| 06:10.34 | LtL | uyyyy: dont message me please |
| 06:10.41 | beadle | Yeah, try "sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-" and try using tab autocomplete. |
| 06:10.57 | beadle | LtL: He didn't say he was running testing, I did. |
| 06:11.00 | leoleo11 | 7.4 |
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| 06:11.13 | LtL | beadle: sorry. |
| 06:11.31 | leoleo11 | beadle: tab is not working |
| 06:11.48 | LtL | leoleo11: tab wont work in this case |
| 06:12.29 | leoleo11 | what should i do? |
| 06:12.46 | beadle | ""sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install kernel-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae" maybe? |
| 06:13.05 | beadle | If 32 bit, that is. |
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| 06:13.33 | leoleo11 | beadle: its 64 bit |
| 06:13.35 | leoleo11 | : Unable to locate package kernel-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'kernel-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae' |
| 06:13.36 | LtL | leoleo11: do a apt-cache search linux-image then pick the kernel you want and using -t wheezy-backports type it out |
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| 06:14.42 | LtL | leoleo11: it should be an amd64 image provided you want the 64bit kernel |
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| 06:15.09 | leoleo11 | LtL: it worked |
| 06:15.12 | leoleo11 | got this oot@debian:/home/debian# apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: firmware-linux-free initramfs-tools Suggested packages: linux-doc-3.12 debian-kernel-handbook The following NEW packages will be installed: firmware-linux-free linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-a |
| 06:15.45 | LtL | leoleo11: looks good, say yes |
| 06:15.57 | leoleo11 | LtL: haha alreaady did |
| 06:16.01 | leoleo11 | thank you |
| 06:16.31 | LtL | leoleo11: you'll need to reboot afterwards. the new kernel will be the grub default |
| 06:16.32 | leoleo11 | i hope this kernel gives me support for my touchpad, brightness and video drivers |
| 06:17.05 | leoleo11 | LtL: do you know if this kernel helps with intel gpus? |
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| 06:17.36 | LtL | leoleo11: i doubt it will make any difference regarding the cpu |
| 06:17.51 | LtL | leoleo11: or gpu but maybe |
| 06:18.10 | LtL | leoleo11: the firmware might though |
| 06:18.36 | leoleo11 | LtL: what do you mean by firmware? |
| 06:18.46 | neantpastel | hello , is there something similar to final cut pro for linux? |
| 06:19.34 | LtL | leoleo11: firmware is necessary for certain devices to work properly |
| 06:20.46 | leoleo11 | be right back |
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| 06:20.59 | leoleo11 | LtL: but where do i find those firmwares? |
| 06:21.07 | \shawn | anyone here have a beaglebone? |
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| 06:23.07 | LtL | leoleo11: the firmware package contains various support for many devices, theres also firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 06:23.53 | LtL | lexibq: if the system can use them, if installed.. it will use them. |
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| 06:24.06 | LtL | lexibq: sorry |
| 06:24.20 | LtL | leoleo11: that was meant for you |
| 06:24.36 | leoleo11 | im sorry |
| 06:24.39 | leoleo11 | didnt read ir |
| 06:24.50 | leoleo11 | LtL: can you send it back again please' |
| 06:24.58 | beadle | neantpastel, look at this: http://www.osalt.com/final-cut-pro |
| 06:25.25 | LtL | leoleo11: if the system can use them, if installed.. it will use them. |
| 06:25.43 | LtL | leoleo11: the firmware that is |
| 06:27.02 | LtL | leoleo11: you'll need to enable non-free to sources.list for firmware-linux-nonfree i would enable contrib also |
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| 06:33.28 | LtL | leoleo11: advise you use an IRC client also :) not a web browser |
| 06:34.07 | leoleo11 | LtL: why not a web browser? |
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| 06:34.34 | LtL | leoleo11: it doesnt have features a real irc client has |
| 06:34.46 | LtL | leoleo11: try xchat |
| 06:34.53 | leoleo11 | LtL: do you know how to add ppas in debian? i cant do it to get the touchpad working inmy laptop http://pastebin.com/DRw55MKm |
| 06:34.57 | leoleo11 | i will try xcha |
| 06:34.58 | leoleo11 | t |
| 06:35.28 | LtL | leoleo11: arent ppa's for ubuntu? dont use those if so |
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| 06:36.18 | leoleo11 | LtL: then how can i get them working in debian for my touchpad? |
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| 06:37.23 | LtL | leoleo11: apt-cache search touchpad .. you may find packages just for that |
| 06:37.51 | LtL | in fact im sure you will |
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| 06:40.16 | LtL | leoleo11: adding ppa's is asking for trouble, debian has a synaptics package |
| 06:41.23 | leoleo11 | LtL: so do you think i can get these files without adding the ppa? sudo apt-get install libevdevc libgestures xf86-input-cmt |
| 06:42.30 | LtL | leoleo11: i don't know, those are ubuntu binaries and you dont want to mix them. |
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| 06:43.05 | LtL | leoleo11: im sure your touchpad will work with debian firmware and a package or two |
| 06:43.57 | LtL | leoleo11: get those ppa's out of your sources.list |
| 06:44.10 | LtL | you will regret it |
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| 06:44.23 | leoleo11 | LtL: hahaha ok |
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| 06:44.37 | LtL | bbiaf |
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| 06:45.05 | leoleo11 | LtL: great news! since the kernel upgrade brightness now works perfectly and now i only need to fix the touchpad |
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| 06:45.52 | leoleo11 | LtL: however i would like to keep this as free as in freedom as possible. do you know if i could make this completely free? |
| 06:46.31 | LtL | leoleo11: dont add non-free to sources.list then |
| 06:47.04 | t3400 | At https://packages.debian.org/sid/libudev-dev libudev1 is dep of libudev-dev, but it seems like libudev1 doesn't even exist. Is my reps borked or is there something funky happening |
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| 06:47.42 | leoleo11 | LtL: but i see that theres need for some patching to be done in the kernel, how do i know these arent propietary? |
| 06:48.18 | LtL | leoleo11: i couldnt say |
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| 06:49.11 | LtL | leoleo11: is it a synaptics touchpad |
| 06:49.24 | leoleo11 | LtL: ok thank you for your help. Now i know that one of the most important things to do after installing a distro is upgrading the kernel |
| 06:49.36 | leoleo11 | LtL: yes, i believe so |
| 06:49.59 | leoleo11 | LtL: why? |
| 06:50.04 | LtL | leoleo11: its not usually necessary to do that, newer hardware often needs it though. |
| 06:50.12 | ceptor | Hello, i would like to contribute to debian by becoming a package maintainer. Is that possible? |
| 06:50.25 | leoleo11 | ceptor: thats amazing |
| 06:50.28 | LtL | leoleo11: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server |
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| 06:50.50 | leoleo11 | LtL: should i install that? |
| 06:50.59 | LtL | leoleo11: i would |
| 06:51.07 | centrx | dpkg: tell ceptor about nmg |
| 06:51.10 | leoleo11 | ceptor: i believe you need to send an email to the development team |
| 06:51.18 | LtL | ceptor: you would need a mentor iirc |
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| 06:51.48 | ceptor | Okay, i got the guide. Will look into it :) |
| 06:52.23 | leoleo11 | LtL: i dont think its that easy since i saw many people having problems getting the touchpad working. |
| 06:53.01 | t3400 | does package libudev1 exist in defaults for anyone |
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| 06:54.57 | leoleo11 | LtL: why does debian come with outdated packages? |
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| 06:57.51 | LtL | leoleo11: debian's first goal is stability |
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| 06:58.59 | t3400 | i want to use my package manager to install libudev1 but it can't find even though sources.list ok |
| 06:59.01 | leoleo11 | LtL: ok thank you |
| 06:59.04 | leoleo11 | i get it know |
| 06:59.07 | leoleo11 | now" |
| 06:59.08 | t3400 | ugh |
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| 07:04.15 | t3400 | ok looked closer this is silly |
| 07:04.39 | t3400 | libc6.1 is a dep of it but literally does not exist |
| 07:04.57 | centrx | libc0.6.1 is only for like kfreebsd |
| 07:05.04 | t3400 | so cannot install libudev1 :( |
| 07:05.05 | centrx | or s390 architecture something like that |
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| 07:06.21 | MisterE | I see /etc/NetworkConnections/system-connection/ |
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| 07:34.12 | grepidemic | hi there. i'm trying to figure out what package contains the "file" command, which gives info about a specific file. anyone know what package has this? |
| 07:34.38 | grepidemic | nvm i found it |
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| 07:39.49 | MACscr | ok, im getting an error on boot that modprobe is not found and thus my modules listed in /etc/modules arent loaded |
| 07:39.57 | MACscr | kind of odd dont you think? |
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| 07:55.53 | Ericx2x | hey guys I'm in a vagrant vm and when I do "sudo apt-get update" it disconnects me: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6g2ytylxga56iwt/Screenshot%202014-02-22%2002.46.46.png |
| 07:55.57 | Ericx2x | anyone know why? |
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| 07:59.12 | zmw | looks like it's connecting to itself... |
| 07:59.20 | Ericx2x | ? |
| 07:59.22 | zmw | "connection to 127.0.0.1 closed by remote host" |
| 07:59.29 | zmw | 127.0.0.1 is your localhost loopback |
| 07:59.34 | zmw | aka yourself! |
| 07:59.36 | Ericx2x | uh |
| 07:59.37 | Ericx2x | ok |
| 07:59.41 | Ericx2x | what should i do then? |
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| 07:59.45 | zmw | so that's weird, is my point :) |
| 07:59.58 | zmw | probably need to remove that repository and add a valid one |
| 08:00.08 | Ericx2x | wuh? |
| 08:00.08 | zmw | it's debian 3.2? |
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| 08:01.23 | zmw | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=1209 |
| 08:01.30 | zmw | try that |
| 08:01.35 | Ericx2x | k |
| 08:01.36 | zmw | someone else with the same problem |
| 08:01.36 | Ericx2x | sed |
| 08:01.38 | Ericx2x | sec |
| 08:01.45 | tapout | if I do a 'grep' vs running a wildcard like '%same%' in either postgresql/mysql... it takes 30~ seconds in innodb.. 28 seconds in postgresql and 1-2 seconds with grep. What I want to do is create a database type return but just as fast as grep. Anyone know of something? I was thinking redis perhaps, ... thus the question here ;) |
| 08:02.12 | rl0 | Ericx2x, check your dns settings in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 08:03.03 | zmw | rl0: good call |
| 08:03.09 | zmw | it's either dns or a proxy |
| 08:03.17 | rl0 | yeah it looks like their dns is messed up lol |
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| 08:05.19 | rl0 | zmw, wait a second, look closely, it's the ssh client that says "connection to 127.0.0.1 is lost" |
| 08:05.46 | isaias | Trying to mount an ntfs usb and it gives me an error (primary boot sector is invalid) |
| 08:05.54 | isaias | How do I fix this? |
| 08:06.12 | zmw | yeah, rl0 you're right |
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| 08:06.50 | zmw | that page i linked to seemed to be someone with the same issue |
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| 08:06.56 | zmw | 3.2 is super old too |
| 08:07.09 | zmw | who knows -- maybe the repo is closed down or has been moved |
| 08:07.12 | zmw | so that's just it failing |
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| 08:07.51 | rl0 | darwin@fileserver:~$ uptime |
| 08:07.52 | rl0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.52 | rl0 | darwin@fileserver:~$ uname -r |
| 08:07.52 | rl0 | 2.6.32-5-686 |
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| 08:08.02 | rl0 | THIS is old! :D |
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| 08:08.16 | zmw | haha |
| 08:08.34 | zmw | i've got a couple of old sparc boxes running a super old version of openbsd |
| 08:08.45 | zmw | but, in the grand scheme of things deb3.2 is pretty old |
| 08:09.02 | zmw | in that it's totally possible the repo has been archived |
| 08:09.03 | rl0 | yeah well you're right |
| 08:09.13 | zmw | :-P |
| 08:10.22 | zmw | according to this chart, which only shows 3.1, not 3.2 -- sarge support ended almost 6 years ago! |
| 08:10.22 | zmw | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Timeline |
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| 08:17.08 | werdna | Hi, is there a general Debian procedure for switching architectures? I have a Raspberry Pi with Raspbian Wheezy armel installed and I'd like to convert it to armhf. |
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| 08:22.40 | werdna | I was just spammed by uyyyy |
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| 08:29.18 | isaias | (isaias) NTFS or exFAT. Which do I chose when formatting my usb on windows to use on linux? |
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| 08:30.21 | zmw | exfat will work |
| 08:30.26 | zmw | fat32 will DEFINITEY work |
| 08:30.33 | zmw | *DEFINITELY |
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| 08:32.51 | jaggz|3 | how do I reduce ssh typing lag? |
| 08:33.58 | jaggz|3 | client is windows over wifi.. and it's faster going to a remote server than over my lan to my linux box |
| 08:34.07 | Mikaela | jaggz|3: You probably can't, but you might want to check mosh. |
| 08:34.25 | Mikaela | jaggz|3: http://mosh.mit.edu/ |
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| 08:36.40 | ompaul | the problem is most likely the windows box for $pick_a_reason |
| 08:37.13 | zmw | jaggz|3: what ssh client are you using on windows? |
| 08:37.19 | Mikaela | mosh should be available in Debian repositories and there is cygwin client and Chrome client. |
| 08:37.21 | zmw | is it slow if you plug in with a cable too? |
| 08:37.37 | ompaul | !ops can someone please kill that uyyyy for pms :) |
| 08:37.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ompaul complains about: can someone please kill that uyyyy for pms :) |
| 08:37.48 | ompaul | it's a on talk bot fool device |
| 08:38.29 | Mikaela | suggests mode nick +R to not receive PMs from unidentified users. |
| 08:39.11 | jaggz|3 | zmw, I haven't tested with a cable (too far away in this house).. |
| 08:39.15 | jaggz|3 | desktop on wifi :) |
| 08:39.15 | thingamabob | !help |
| 08:39.41 | jaggz|3 | this is in vim, by the way, so I'm not sure if Mosh's local stuff will help.. the lag isn't THAT bad so I won't worry about it for now.. |
| 08:39.53 | jaggz|3 | Mosh is interesting.. I might use it though :) Right now I'm in putty |
| 08:40.23 | jaggz|3 | unfortunately, putty doesn't handle Arabic properly either (on any system I've tried it on).. it puts circles around the letters.. I haven't tested hebrew.. this is a completely separate issue though |
| 08:40.59 | zmw | how far are you from the wireless access point? |
| 08:41.08 | zmw | it just sounds like a network issue to me |
| 08:41.29 | jaggz|3 | yeah.. might be.. going both ways wifi .. both computers are in the same room and the wifi hotspot is in another room about 20 feet away.. |
| 08:41.39 | jaggz|3 | I had to relocate it to the other side of the fireplace so it wouldn't go through the brick :) |
| 08:42.01 | jaggz|3 | I won't worry about it or trouble you about it any more.. we're going to be moving within the week so... |
| 08:42.17 | jaggz|3 | it was more like, "yeah, change the ssh packet size to... " |
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| 08:42.27 | ompaul | mtu is your issue? |
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| 08:43.37 | jaggz|3 | might be, but I haven't had any luck changing it in my router.. google wouldn't work with the different MTU settings I tried.. other sites would though |
| 08:43.50 | jaggz|3 | I didn't pursue that all that long though... |
| 08:44.13 | jaggz|3 | (as I didn't find any clear docs explaining what setting would work) |
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| 08:45.49 | jaggz|3 | odd.. I don't see a mosh for windows, except cygwin.. .http://mosh.mit.edu/#getting |
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| 08:46.56 | OpenTokix | What is windows? |
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| 08:48.51 | werdna | hey folks, uyyyy is spamming everyone |
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| 08:49.20 | jaggz|3 | did anyone visit it? I was curious what it was but didn't want to click |
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| 08:50.35 | werdna | okay, so if I'm using raspbian, and I want to convert architectures, how crazy would it be to back up, take the current release of Raspbian armhf, mount both and copy over the binaries? |
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| 08:54.15 | werdna | cheers babilen |
| 08:55.58 | babilen | werdna: No problem - Unfortunately we don't really support raspbian in here and they have their own channel over at #raspbian - That being said: A cross-grade like that will almost certainly fail as you miss metadata. But please discuss it in #raspbian. Thank you |
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| 09:00.19 | werdna | babilen: cheers, thanks |
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| 09:44.12 | reederdoge | hello, I have a server that only have port 22 open, is there a way to tunnel all traffic trough port 22? It's behind a router and it's the only port that's forwarded |
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| 09:46.26 | wols | reederdoge: yes. ssh portforwarding. |
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| 09:47.40 | reederdoge | wols: can I run, for instance, links and apt-get trough port 22 for update and links browking? |
| 09:48.29 | reederdoge | wtf fingers... |
| 09:48.31 | digdilem | reederdoge, um, is there NAT involved? normally having a port open is considered to be an incoming port, all outgoing being natted |
| 09:48.33 | reederdoge | links browsing |
| 09:48.39 | wols | you can, but what is exactly your problem? first you seem to write about inbound ssh (forwarded port from router) and now you write about outbound. those are different things |
| 09:49.46 | reederdoge | I'm behind a router. The admin guy have no idea how to configure it. I have 22 forwarded, so at least I can connect trough ssh, but I can't use apt-get or any other software that requires outside connections |
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| 09:51.12 | wols | you can use ssh as a SOCKS proxy, so yes you can |
| 09:51.42 | wols | how does your "22 forwarded" work exactly? |
| 09:52.11 | wols | explain the setup from the POV of the system behind that router |
| 09:52.17 | reederdoge | I can connect trough 22 from outside the newtork |
| 09:52.26 | reederdoge | oh |
| 09:52.48 | wols | so you have a ssh server on the system behind this router? |
| 09:52.52 | reederdoge | yes |
| 09:53.05 | wols | and how is this pertinent to runnint apt-get from behind this router? |
| 09:53.09 | wols | *running |
| 09:53.17 | reederdoge | I'm sorry? |
| 09:53.34 | wols | on this system behind the router, run "ping google.com;wget google.com" |
| 09:53.35 | reederdoge | apt-get can't connect to any server, nor can links, for instance |
| 09:53.42 | wols | show us the output |
| 09:53.49 | reederdoge | ping and wget doesn't work |
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| 09:53.55 | wols | !doesn't work |
| 09:53.55 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 09:54.12 | wols | and I told you to pastebin the output for a reason |
| 09:54.29 | reederdoge | sure, in a sec |
| 09:54.59 | reederdoge | (it hangs for a few seconds before the output) |
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| 09:55.25 | reederdoge | ping: unknown host google.com |
| 09:56.02 | reederdoge | Resolving google.com (google.com)... failed: Name or service not known. |
| 09:56.02 | reederdoge | wget: unable to resolve host address `google.com' |
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| 09:57.32 | reederdoge | DNS are configured correctly, I get the same behaviour for 8.8.8.8 |
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| 09:58.42 | wols | traceroute 8.8.8.8 |
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| 10:00.18 | reederdoge | http://pastebin.ca/2645193 |
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| 10:04.58 | wols | reederdoge: I think your routing might be broken, not necessarily the router. after all, incoming ssh workds |
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| 10:06.10 | reederdoge | wols: that's my thoughts as well. the admin have no idea how to properly configure it, so he just created all sorts of routing rules. |
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| 10:06.18 | reederdoge | fortunatelly, ssh works |
| 10:06.33 | reederdoge | can I use that to have outside connections for apt-get and other stuff? |
| 10:06.45 | reederdoge | until he fixes the routing problem |
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| 10:14.16 | wols | yes, with ssh port forwarding |
| 10:14.44 | wols | and I didn't mean your router that is the problem but YOUR routing. your debian configuration that you made |
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| 10:15.16 | wols | and as I wrote before: ssh port forwarding |
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| 10:20.24 | reederdoge | wols: care to quickly explain how I could use apt-get with ssh port forwarding? |
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| 10:22.19 | DelphiWorld | Hi Guys;) |
| 10:22.29 | DelphiWorld | stupid but good question:-P |
| 10:22.34 | DelphiWorld | i have 2 debians at home |
| 10:22.41 | DelphiWorld | all in same gigabit switch |
| 10:23.02 | DelphiWorld | but when i downloaded bethwan them using wget i get slow 11mb download |
| 10:23.07 | DelphiWorld | any idea how to make it higher? |
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| 10:25.31 | WilliamDotSI | if i want to filter DHCP with ebtables do i do this on the bridge interface or on the eths? |
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| 10:25.51 | pietro_ | Hello to everyone, someone could help me with installation from USB? |
| 10:25.52 | WilliamDotSI | usage case is a DHCP server on a Wifi router behind it that should not do NAT but bridge, but i have to avoid DHCP to my VPN network |
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| 10:26.37 | Imbue | hello. is it possible to reduce/change the font and size in console? |
| 10:26.52 | Imbue | i would like my 'normal' tty to have the same font as xterm default |
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| 10:27.29 | DelphiWorld | WilliamDotSI, i belieuv that should be in the bridge, cause ETH become passive when bridged |
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| 10:27.36 | WilliamDotSI | yea thats m,y guess also |
| 10:27.51 | DelphiWorld | WilliamDotSI: :) |
| 10:27.51 | WilliamDotSI | i just try it out, even if it leaks DHCP i have no clients on the VPN anyway with a dhcp client and no IP |
| 10:28.01 | WilliamDotSI | just waste of broadcast packets |
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| 10:28.25 | DelphiWorld | lollol WilliamDotSI william.si is you? |
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| 10:29.38 | pietro_ | from terminal somthing as dd if: /.../debian.iso /dev/sdc1 sdc1 is my us but when i restart the pc and i try to do the boot from usb nothing happens and ubuntu(my os now) is started as usually... |
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| 10:29.59 | Imbue | pietro_ should be sdc |
| 10:30.07 | Imbue | pietro_: sdc1 refers to a partition, not a block device |
| 10:30.36 | Imbue | i am not sure what dd will do there but it will probably just push the image onto some later portion of the drive hence not setting MBR and bootable flag etc |
| 10:30.41 | Imbue | latter* |
| 10:31.08 | Imbue | of course make sure sdc is your usb drive first! :P |
| 10:31.47 | pietro_ | oh... thanks now i try =) |
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| 10:35.35 | boratynskikamil | Hello. |
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| 10:36.12 | boratynskikamil | Would you recommend to include boot partition in different RAID? Is it better to make LVM on RAID or RAID on LVM? |
| 10:36.25 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: lvm on raid |
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| 10:36.33 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: As I thought. |
| 10:36.41 | boratynskikamil | It does not make sense the second one. |
| 10:36.46 | OpenTokix | nope |
| 10:37.00 | OpenTokix | Hardware -> Blockdevice -> logical block device -> filesystem |
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| 10:37.06 | OpenTokix | that is the "normal" chain |
| 10:37.12 | boratynskikamil | Right. |
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| 10:37.43 | boratynskikamil | And the first question? |
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| 10:38.23 | OpenTokix | I dont understand it |
| 10:38.36 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: both endpoints need to support gigabit speeds and the link on each has to actually get established at gigabit speed, look at eg. "ethtool eth0 | grep Speed" or dmesg output |
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| 10:39.07 | boratynskikamil | I mean. Should I keep /boot partition in different RAID, outside LVM on RAID? |
| 10:39.15 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: they are both GBE |
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| 10:40.34 | Linnak | Can somebody tell me if I can force a resolution with maximum 10 easy steps or I have to spend another 2 hours with it? |
| 10:40.48 | Linnak | I have radeon 9600 card |
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| 10:41.12 | boratynskikamil | Linnak: Yes, you have to. |
| 10:41.26 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: Don't really matter since /boot is pretty easy to recreate in case of problem. - Depends on the level of raid you want. - Having multiple raids on multiple block devices, also introduce a level of complexity that might hurt you when something fails. - I would put one raid, with /boot on the raid - and then lvm on the rest of the raid for everything else |
| 10:41.31 | Linnak | aha |
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| 10:41.49 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: That was my question. :-) |
| 10:41.52 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: sory but one of them is 100mb, but why 11mbit/S? :P |
| 10:42.09 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: Did you get an answer you are satisfied with? |
| 10:42.19 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Yep. :-) Thank you. |
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| 10:42.36 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: 11 mega _bytes_ /s is almost exactly 100 Mbps |
| 10:42.49 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: hehehe |
| 10:42.53 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: RAID-1. :-) |
| 10:43.31 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: I have gone from raid 5 to raid 6 and now I prefer raid 1+0 on my setups |
| 10:43.48 | jelly-home | Linnak: it depends. While your card is old and ought to be supported with the free drivers, your monitor or TV might give out buggy or incomplete information about available resolutions |
| 10:44.14 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: I have only 2 disks, so... :-) I'm forced to use 1+0. :-) |
| 10:44.39 | OpenTokix | no, that is raid1 only |
| 10:44.49 | OpenTokix | raid1+0 is two raid1 that you put a stripe over |
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| 10:45.14 | OpenTokix | So it requires a minimum of four drives |
| 10:45.35 | jelly-home | Linnak: look at "xrandr -q" output and see whether the desired resolution is listed as available on the relevant connected output |
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| 10:46.39 | Linnak | I need to force whic i want i saw on a distro it's possible with my card |
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| 10:47.40 | jelly-home | some hw controllers show 10 or 1+0 level even with 2 members only |
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| 10:48.07 | OpenTokix | jelly-home: yes |
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| 10:51.12 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Ouch, I see. |
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| 11:01.39 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Question. |
| 11:01.53 | boratynskikamil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:02.12 | boratynskikamil | Rest of system is on second RAID-1. |
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| 11:02.43 | boratynskikamil | During boot I got an error GRUB: error: Unknown LVM metadata header |
| 11:02.46 | boratynskikamil | Suggestion? |
| 11:03.19 | HelloShitty | Hi |
| 11:03.23 | HelloShitty | i need help |
| 11:03.24 | glararan | Hi, I installed debian without GRUB, how can I boot him now? Main OS windows 8 without UEFI |
| 11:04.04 | HelloShitty | i have installed a windws application with wine and now i want to creat a symbolic link to that application... How do i do it? |
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| 11:04.27 | towo` | what should a symlink do? |
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| 11:05.16 | towo` | write a little bash script for the ap, which contets the full command to start the application |
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| 11:08.32 | HelloShitty | towo`, i don't know how to do that |
| 11:08.38 | HelloShitty | won't a symlink work? |
| 11:08.40 | towo` | then learn it |
| 11:08.53 | mowgli19829 | hi all! i have wheezy on a sheevaplug. i gave this command as indicated in the OwnCloud website, but then started getting errors on apt-get update: "wget deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/community/Debian_7.0/Release.key | sudo apt-key add -" |
| 11:08.54 | towo` | HelloShitty, learn, what a symlink is |
| 11:09.15 | HelloShitty | ok |
| 11:09.28 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: I have no idea, never seen that error before. - Are you booting with initrd? |
| 11:10.50 | mowgli19829 | the error says: " |
| 11:10.51 | mowgli19829 | Err http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main armel Packages |
| 11:10.53 | mowgli19829 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.55 | mowgli19829 | Err http://ftp.it.debian.org wheezy-updates/main Sources |
| 11:10.56 | mowgli19829 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.57 | mowgli19829 | W: Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock |
| 11:10.59 | mowgli19829 | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/Release rename failed, Read-only file system (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_Release -> /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.it.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_Release). |
| 11:11.10 | mowgli19829 | " |
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| 11:11.45 | jelly-home | mowgli19829: your filesystem seems to have been remounted read-only due to fs errors. Reboot and fsck |
| 11:12.31 | jelly-home | mowgli19829: hm, before that, look at dmesg output to confirm this is really what happened |
| 11:12.35 | boratynskikamil | OpenTokix: Yep. |
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| 11:13.11 | boratynskikamil | "Unknown LVM metadata header" |
| 11:13.17 | boratynskikamil | This is an error. :-) |
| 11:13.35 | accu | hi all |
| 11:13.44 | accu | I have a question regarding a long delay in bootup when a dmraid device (partition) is being brought up by systemd while it has already been brought up in the initrd as a LUKS container |
| 11:13.53 | accu | I have tried setting up a udev rule for that partition device using TAG:="" and ENV{SYSTEMD_READY}="0" but systemd is still trying to bring it up :( |
| 11:14.04 | accu | the LUKS container contains the root fs, so the stack is dmraid > LUKS > rootfs |
| 11:14.10 | accu | any ideas? |
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| 11:22.52 | OpenTokix | boratynskikamil: no idea, sorry |
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| 11:33.50 | frostschutz | accu, is it a custom initramfs, so systemd and initramfs may be having different ideas as to what the name of the luks container should be? |
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| 11:37.13 | vifon | Hello. Is there a recommended way to downgrade from Sid to testing or I'm better off just reinstalling the whole thing (it's a relatively fresh installation so it would be *too* troublesome)? |
| 11:37.40 | nkuttler | vifon: reinstall |
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| 11:38.24 | vifon | BTW, why is there no xbindkeys in testing? |
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| 11:40.03 | nkuttler | ,v xbindkeys |
| 11:40.04 | judd | Package: xbindkeys on i386 -- squeeze: 1.8.3-1; wheezy: 1.8.5-1; jessie: 1.8.6-1; sid: 1.8.6-1 |
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| 11:41.30 | f-a | hello. I need to execute a closed source binary (a 3d rendering engine test, made by a friend of mine). I forgot how to do that safely (if it is possible): chroot? virtual box? |
| 11:42.04 | teeteewhy | h |
| 11:42.05 | vifon | So I've just chosen a crappy day for an installation. It was not present then. Nevermind then. |
| 11:42.07 | rl0 | chroot isn't that safe after all |
| 11:42.09 | vifon | Thanks. |
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| 12:02.23 | accu | frostschutz: no, it's a standard initrd |
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| 12:04.53 | accu | the issue is not with the luks container though, it's with the underlying device |
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| 12:08.01 | frankS2 | Hi, I wonder if its a no-no tho change APT::Periodic::RandomSleep to a large period of time, lets say 7 hours? |
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| 12:21.12 | accu | despite all my googling, none of the suggested ways of telling systemd not to bother with that device work.. |
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| 12:26.24 | berceanu | i am on a multiarch wheezy system and libc6-i386 fails to install. when i do sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 i get: libc6 : Breaks: libc6:i386 (!= 2.18-0experimental0) but 2.13-38+deb7u1 is to be installed |
| 12:27.09 | themill | berceanu: that's not a wheezy system |
| 12:27.25 | jelly-home | berceanu: you seem to have installed libc6 from experimental previously, but removed the experimental repo |
| 12:27.47 | jelly-home | system previously known as wheezy? |
| 12:28.46 | berceanu | themill: lsb_release returns Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy) ;) |
| 12:29.05 | themill | berceanu: that doesn't make it a wheezy system |
| 12:29.17 | berceanu | themill: im not sure i follow |
| 12:29.19 | themill | ,v libc6 --release wheezy |
| 12:29.21 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u1 |
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| 12:29.40 | themill | berceanu: what jelly said -- your libc6:amd64 is not from wheezy |
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| 12:30.25 | berceanu | oh, ok, i see. it is possible i might have installed a newer experimental version some time ago and completely forgotten about it |
| 12:33.07 | berceanu | so here is my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/AAtjeadg |
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| 12:38.07 | eptalon | heyas |
| 12:38.56 | eptalon | I just (re-)installed debian (unstable); and I was wondering where I would get multimedia stuff, but also java stuff from? |
| 12:39.07 | accu | berceanu: apt-get -t experimental install libc6:i386? |
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| 12:41.41 | accu | eptalon: deb-multimedia.org |
| 12:41.50 | themill | no |
| 12:42.01 | themill | eptalon: they're already in debian |
| 12:42.39 | berceanu | accu: libc6 : Breaks: libc6:i386 (!= 2.18-0experimental0) but 2.18-0experimental1 is to be installed |
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| 12:42.51 | accu | berceanu: apt-get -t experimental install libc6:i386 libc6:amd64 |
| 12:43.14 | themill | berceanu: you probably don't really want libc6 from experimental. |
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| 12:44.28 | accu | probably not :) |
| 12:44.54 | berceanu | themill: i think i needed it to compile a very recent version of some program |
| 12:44.59 | berceanu | themill: so im stuck with it |
| 12:45.01 | themill | unlikely |
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| 12:45.55 | accu | even experimental packages are packaged against sid dependencies right? |
| 12:46.22 | berceanu | accu: libc6:i386 : Depends: libgcc1:i386 but it is not going to be installed |
| 12:46.51 | accu | berarma: yeah, you will need to include the whole depchain in this way.. |
| 12:46.58 | eptalon | ok, seems to work; I only need to add the key, but that seems a minor issuer |
| 12:47.01 | eptalon | ok, seems to work; I only need to add the key, but that seems a minor issue |
| 12:47.05 | berceanu | accu: iirc it was a manual compilation from source |
| 12:47.35 | accu | berarma: like themill said, it's prob not needed, and you should instead downgrade your libc to testing |
| 12:48.03 | berceanu | i agree this seems to be creating a mess |
| 12:48.11 | berceanu | so how can i downgrade, guys? |
| 12:48.15 | berceanu | :) |
| 12:48.39 | accu | apt-get install libc6=2.13-38+deb7u1 |
| 12:48.41 | themill | eptalon: deb-multimedia is best avoided. |
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| 12:49.05 | eptalon | themill: do you have alternatives? |
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| 12:49.25 | themill | eptalon: for what? |
| 12:49.42 | eptalon | themill: common packages, like vlc, perhaps one or two to transcode videos, a flashplugin,... |
| 12:50.06 | themill | eptalon: as I said, they're already all in debian |
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| 12:50.32 | berceanu | accu: libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (> 2.18) but 2.13-38+deb7u1 is to be installed |
| 12:50.43 | themill | dpkg: tell berceanu about partial downgrade |
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| 12:50.58 | eptalon | themill: so debian changed its policy as to possibly non-free software? |
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| 12:51.07 | themill | eptalon: no |
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| 12:52.00 | berceanu | accu: "change sources list" to what? ;_ |
| 12:52.07 | eptalon | themill: so how comes that debian provies vlc (with a few possibly problematic codecs), two or three tools for transcoding,... |
| 12:52.15 | accu | berarma: ? |
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| 12:52.36 | themill | eptalon: vlc and transcoding tools have been in debian for many years. |
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| 12:53.18 | accu | themill: I think the multimedia situation was only resolved from wheezy/testing onward |
| 12:53.19 | themill | vlc (0.1.99-1) unstable; urgency=low; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 02:21:45 +0100 |
| 12:53.37 | themill | accu: deb-multimedia hasn't been required for several releases |
| 12:53.47 | berceanu | accu: you mean remove deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main from sources.list? |
| 12:54.56 | accu | berceanu: no, you should downgrade libc6 and its depencies/version locked co-packages to testing (or stable, or unstable) |
| 12:55.55 | berceanu | yes, but you sent me a private message about partial downgrading |
| 12:56.03 | berceanu | and first step says "change sources.list" |
| 12:56.04 | accu | berceanu: no I didn't |
| 12:56.16 | berceanu | well dpkg did ;) |
| 12:56.41 | berceanu | themill actually did |
| 12:56.47 | eptalon | cd/dvd burning, any suggestions? |
| 12:56.53 | accu | berceanu: since you don't know what to do in this situation I think it's best for you to remove experimental from your sources.list |
| 12:57.16 | accu | berceanu: prob also unstable |
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| 12:57.28 | themill | eptalon: k3b, brasero, ...; /msg dpkg search; /msg dpkg popcon |
| 12:57.35 | berceanu | accu: which i just did, followed by apt-get update |
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| 12:58.06 | accu | berceanu: ok. so now issue a apt-cache showpkg libc6 and check the deps |
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| 12:58.11 | berceanu | accu: i dont have unstable |
| 12:58.14 | eptalon | berceanu: "unstable" will be internally stable, as in if something is broken it is a single package; experimental does not make that guarantee |
| 12:58.40 | themill | neither does unstable. |
| 12:58.50 | accu | berceanu: then install all dependencies which have a specific version with apt-get install pkg=version pkg-version syntax |
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| 12:59.05 | accu | I mean pkg=version pkg=version etc |
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| 13:00.52 | dvarrui | I've heard that Debian is going to change SystemV/Upstar by systemd... What do you thing about it? |
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| 13:02.22 | nkuttler | dvarrui: it's not decided yet, and not really on-topic for this channel |
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| 13:02.27 | lord4163 | Where do I find /lib/security on Debian? |
| 13:02.35 | jelly-home | lord4163: same place |
| 13:02.54 | lord4163 | jelly-home: So I'm supposed to create that folder? |
| 13:03.07 | dvarrui | nkutler: Sorry! Thanks! |
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| 13:03.20 | jelly-home | lord4163: oh, which debian release are you using? |
| 13:03.32 | lord4163 | jelly-home: wheezy |
| 13:03.39 | jelly-home | lord4163: look at ls -ld /lib/*/security |
| 13:04.11 | berceanu | accu: i did the apt-cahe as you suggested, now im stuck with a lot of output: http://pastebin.com/xQ3kpPrf |
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| 13:04.24 | lord4163 | jelly-home: Thanks |
| 13:04.41 | jelly-home | lord4163: or even dpkg -l libpam-modules |
| 13:04.56 | jelly-home | lord4163: sorry, dpkg -L libpam-modules |
| 13:05.46 | accu | berceanu: yes it contains a lot of technical info |
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| 13:06.20 | accu | berceanu: maybe apt-get -t testing libc6 will work for you, although I'm not sure if this will downgrade all deps too |
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| 13:06.24 | berceanu | accu: so how do i extract what i need to install from this |
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| 13:08.47 | berceanu | accu: i dont even think i have the testing repo in my sources file |
| 13:08.56 | accu | berceanu: in the top of the output you'll see which version of the package is current for which release. you'll have to explicitly tell apt-get the version for this package. Do the same for the packages it complains about. rinse repeat. |
| 13:10.01 | accu | berceanu: wheezy=testing |
| 13:10.30 | berceanu | i thought wheezy was the stable one |
| 13:10.35 | accu | berarma: not yet |
| 13:10.44 | veryape | wheezy = debian stable |
| 13:10.48 | veryape | jessy = testing |
| 13:10.52 | accu | argh |
| 13:10.55 | accu | true |
| 13:10.56 | berceanu | yea |
| 13:11.05 | accu | sorry |
| 13:11.10 | accu | livin in the past :) |
| 13:11.11 | berceanu | np :) |
| 13:11.14 | berceanu | haha |
| 13:11.23 | veryape | it happens :D |
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| 13:12.52 | korhojoa | guys, #debian has now existed for over 13 years |
| 13:12.57 | korhojoa | 15:12:11 -!- Channel #debian created Sat Feb 10 01:16:24 2001 |
| 13:13.09 | berceanu | so guys, there really is no automated way to do this downgrade? |
| 13:13.21 | accu | berceanu: yes, see my privmsg |
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| 13:42.54 | Kiril | someone could you tell me how to fix that --> http://pastebin.com/FTATghiV |
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| 13:45.48 | wols | Kiril: you start with what program you are running. preferably outside the debugger |
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| 13:47.47 | Kiril | this is gdb |
| 13:48.09 | Kiril | it's started on this way --> gdb ./eggdrop -p 14684 |
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| 13:51.45 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 13:52.20 | eptalon | how do I get sound (alsa)? to work; it recognises some ibex-peak sound card, and until I reninstalled sound worked. |
| 13:52.56 | accu | eptalon: unmute.. |
| 13:53.16 | eptalon | accu: how? |
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| 13:54.24 | accu | with the mixer? |
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| 13:55.06 | eptalon | accu: e.g. |
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| 13:55.24 | accu | kmix, pavucontrol |
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| 14:10.03 | berceanu | if i have installed vim from source and now want to switch to the default wheezy package, how can i do it? |
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| 14:11.47 | flux242 | berceanu: did you perform - make install ? |
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| 14:12.18 | berceanu | flux242: yes |
| 14:12.25 | berceanu | sudo make install |
| 14:13.08 | flux242 | berceanu: never do make install |
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| 14:14.06 | flux242 | berceanu: now you can parse the Makefile to find out what and where vim makefile installs and remove everything manually |
| 14:15.10 | flux242 | berceanu: that's why package managers exit. They do this work for you |
| 14:15.34 | berceanu | :(( |
| 14:15.50 | berceanu | can't i just overwrite it with the wheezy version? |
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| 14:17.32 | flux242 | berceanu: you may try. Technically it might work, but I never tried it |
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