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00:02.25xiongHey, is it possible to ask dpkg to list installed packages by repository?
00:03.18dvsxiong: That what the "-t" optiion is for.
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00:03.56xiongLet me check that.
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00:04.31dvsoops. scratch that.
00:04.37dvsputs down the egg nog
00:04.52xiongHe he. I looked for something like that before asking, did not find.
00:05.30babilendpkg: list repositories
00:05.30dpkgTo see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list>
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00:11.03xiongbabilen, I appreciate that, truly... but that is one miserable stinky long line. How is it... just askin'... that nobody did, indeed, include that as a dpkg option?
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00:12.19xiongI'm not even sure I'm parsing it properly by eye.
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00:22.49xiongThat link to the Perl script works very well, thank you.
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00:40.25Hasseni wonder why is python language embedded in many linux distros
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00:43.03eintw1ckHassen: Because even stupid people can program in python.
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00:53.31dvs!prize eintw1ck
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00:54.19eintw1ck...what is this! I wanted apt to give it to me
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00:57.22dvsplays "You Can't Always Get What You Want"
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01:03.31spacebison!prize  spacebison
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01:47.32manchickenDalekSec++
01:47.51DalekSec\o/
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01:55.47LinuxGuy2020I have a samba share setup on my server and I can access the share on my android tablet just fine but what do I need to access it in nautilus? Do I need a package installed or something?
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01:57.19dvsLinuxGuy2020: samba-client?
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01:59.31LinuxGuy2020dvs: hmm already installed. I cant see the name of the share at all. No idea why.
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02:23.52mikolaj__how do I make debian shutdown instead of suspend?
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02:24.58neo1691my user neo1691 belongs to the group fuse. Yet when I run fusermount as neo1691 I get permission denied error. fusermount runs successfully only as root user
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02:25.15rwwdid you log out and back in again after adding yourself to that group?
02:25.18rwwmikolaj__: on GNOME 3?
02:25.35mikolaj__rww: yes.
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02:25.44rwwmikolaj__: hold down ctrl or shift or alt on that menu, I forget which it is
02:25.53rwwor log out and there's a menu for it there
02:26.53mikolaj__rww: Sorry I mean in the power menu, how to get the computer to shutdown after 1 idle hour instead of suspend
02:27.00rwwoh
02:27.02rwwno idea, sorry
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02:28.40mikolaj__rww: but thanks for the other tip anyway, I thought there was a bug in the UI or something because of no shutdown option
02:29.05rwwnope, it's by design. I believe Power management being simplified is too
02:29.17rwwI use KDE, so as one could imagine I don't really agree with this.
02:30.07mikolaj__gnome3 includes some puzzling design choices for sure
02:30.36tnwnsfxfce is nice and simple. but it's UGLY and audio support is screwed up
02:32.15mikolaj__it's not so bad once you get a better window theme and so on
02:32.18tnwnsfhow do i make dhclient not connect to random udp ports ?
02:32.36neo1691rww, Thanks I will log out
02:33.09tnwnsfi'm on stable and no amount of config options prevents it from opening up random udp ports
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02:33.27mikolaj__what stopped me from using xfce is that there was a 1 second delay when switching workspaces if an application was open in the workspace I switch to
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02:36.17tnwnsfmikolaj__, it seems every de has its own weird set of quirks
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03:20.53SeRiHello all, Merry Christmas. I have setup a dynamic LACP on my switch. I than proceed to create my bond0 on Debian 7 x84_64... All works... Well almost. I see that I have a few dropped packets. I cant seem to trackdown the issue. Just for testing I installed Slackware 14 and I had the same issue. Is there a way to track this type of issues?
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03:58.50SeRiback :)
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04:15.57criptorww: nice seeing you here :)
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04:20.05shellox_hi
04:20.48shellox_for which dns server would you go for a local network?
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04:21.37shellox_dnsmasq seems like the right fit for a small local network + dns forwarder
04:21.46shellox_but I'm not sure how reliable it is
04:21.58abrotmanit's been around awhile
04:24.35shellox_abrotman: so i shouldn't have problems with just 10 clients right?
04:25.44shellox_i just give it a try first
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04:29.13abrotmanyou probably wouldn't have problems with 100 clients
04:29.20abrotmanerm, 1000 clients
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04:43.34meshuggahmerry xmas to all
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04:44.18pbk829i did a install of debian (that took a long time) and not i'm a the login screen but during installation i accidently skipped over the account creation section, so i don't have an account to log in to. is there any way to log in somehow and make one or do i have to do that entire thing over again?
04:44.34pbk829and now* i'm at the login screen
04:44.52stewpbk829: login as root and create a user?
04:45.05pbk829is there a password?
04:45.10stewyes
04:45.42pbk829...
04:46.14pbk829are you going to tell me?
04:46.25stewi don't know it,  you should have given it during the installation
04:46.38meshuggahgfy root
04:46.43meshuggahpassword =
04:46.49meshuggahwithout password, so press enter
04:46.51meshuggahtry that
04:47.17stewand then what?  he should try "a" and then "b"?
04:47.25pbk829i tried "gfy root" as the username and blank password bt it didn't work
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04:47.35stewpbk829: he's just making stuff up
04:47.36meshuggahsorry, simply root
04:47.38meshuggahi mispelled
04:47.38stew!ifrp
04:47.38dpkgFor GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt.
04:47.52meshuggahi am actually trying to help with my basic knowledge
04:47.55stewpbk829: if you don't know the root password, you can reset it like that ^^
04:48.01pbk829root as username didn't work either, without a password
04:48.21stewpbk829: that would only work if you happened to have told the installer to use a blank root password
04:48.28meshuggahsorry, so listen to stew he is a geek
04:48.32stew?
04:48.49pbk829i didn't, i accidently skipped past the username/password creation section of the installer and it wouldn't let me go back
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04:49.12stewpbk829: see dpkg's instructions
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04:53.04Tylertwopbk829, what do you mean it wouldn't let you go back? Ime there was a 'go back' button at most screens during the installation.
04:53.21pbk829no there wasn't
04:53.32pbk829not once it began installing the system
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04:58.00pbk829dpkg instructions worked
04:58.01dpkgpbk829: I don't know, could you explain it?
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05:00.17nellhow come debian doesn't have libotr5
05:01.07optrazi have radeon graphic card, how to reinstall the driver?
05:01.28socommoptraz: very carefully
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05:02.07optrazwtf?
05:02.36pbk829ya this place is full of helpful advice like that optraz
05:03.33optrazhmmm
05:03.40nellI gotta install the backport version or something
05:04.04pbk829if it's in backports then why do you say debian doesn't have it?
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05:07.26Tylertwonell, would libotr2 work?
05:07.42nellno
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05:09.11nellkk I got libotr5 installed
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05:11.51nellWhen I use libotr2 Tylertwo I get OTR version 3.2
05:11.55nelland its currently at 4.0
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05:22.11pbk829off topic, but does anyone know if there's OTR support for finch these days?
05:23.05nellidk
05:23.15nellim trying to get latest OTR plugin to work on debian
05:24.21pbk829otr plugin for what?
05:24.26nellpidgin
05:24.35pbk829oh
05:25.04nellits not werkin
05:25.17nellwheezy has version 3.2
05:25.21nellnew security measures for 4.0
05:25.23pbk829did you install pidgin-otr?
05:25.31nellthat installs old version..
05:25.51nelldebian has to get it together before next release I hope
05:26.02pbk829backports has 4.0, it didn't work?
05:26.48OkeeI had trouble booting into debian stable, and ended up booting via recovery mode.  I am wondering if this had something to do with running KeePass2.  Previously had problems with KeePass2 and wine in Linuxmint debian edition, and it created a system loop.  I didn't install wine with debian stable, but curious as to how the OS is able to run a windows based program.
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05:27.23nellbackports installs libotr2
05:27.27nellwhen its at libotr5
05:28.07pbk829try this: sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install libotr5
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05:28.45pbk829backports is in your sources.list right?
05:28.50nellyeah
05:28.55pbk829then that should work
05:28.55nellapparently I have libotr5 already installed
05:29.12pbk829maybe try purging libotr2 then
05:29.26nellah
05:29.28nellI stll had htat
05:29.31nellits gone now
05:30.01nellhow about the actual OTR plugin now
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05:30.04pbk829does pidgin-otr know to use libotr5 automatically?
05:30.06pbk829i'm not sure
05:30.10nellit doesn't
05:30.13nell>_<
05:30.16nellwhen I try to install via backports
05:30.25nellit will use libotr2
05:31.20pbk829maybe the issue is that pidgin and pidgin-otr are not in backports
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05:35.27pbk829i don't think finch supports otr yet
05:35.30introom3hi, guys. I wanna install vim on wheezy stable. How?
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05:40.36meshuggahintroom3, open synaptic, type vim, install
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05:52.18shellox_abrotman: do you have a minute?
05:52.56Okeeanyone have experience with kvm (virtualization)?
05:56.30OkeeI am receiving an error indicating that I am missing firware, after installing a library virtualization module: http://pastebin.com/CePUpYny   Any idea how to fix this?
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06:03.30PenixOkee: it's not a kvm-specific thing. if you have realtek 8169 ethernet and it worked before you saw that firmware warning, it will continue to work. don't worry about it
06:04.25OkeePenix> I don't know what I have, but would like to fix it.  Does this error message only apply to realtek?
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06:05.13PenixOkee: yes, it's about firmware files for 'r8169' compatible chips, like it says
06:05.58PenixOkee: lspci |grep Ethernet
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06:11.43OkeePenix> I found their website, but I am not sure which driver I need. It is either the first one or the last one: http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
06:12.17PenixOkee: you don't need their drivers. Linux has drivers for it
06:12.33PenixOkee: like I said, if your ethernet connection works, forget about those warning messages
06:13.35OkeePenix>  So how would I upgrade if I wanted to use what linux has?
06:14.20PenixOkee: you're already using the built-in driver. that's what r8169 is. it's the driver for certain realtek gigabit ethernet interfaces, which it seems your system has
06:15.04PenixOkee: again: if your network connection functioned correctly before you saw those warning messages, forget all about the firmware files. just keep using your network connection
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06:16.10leftiehi
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06:16.38leftieif i have stuffed up some config files in /etc/ for a particular pkg, is there a way to redownload the default config files off the repo?
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06:19.36Penixleftie: you can do it via dpkg and/or apt. google 'debian reinstall config files'. the results on the first page explain the different approaches
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07:00.20x6d61726bQuick question on sources.list, I have downloaded the disc 1 of debian and have configured a usb stick to boot from that image. Is there a way to configure /etc/apt/sources.list to use that USB stick as a package repository? I'm trying to get the firmware-linux-free package which is on that image.
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07:12.00Penixx6d61726b: yes, you can add the mounted filesystem as a local repo. 'man sources.list', you can use 'file:/'
07:12.32Penixx6d61726b: although in this case, if all you want is firmware-linux-nonfree, you could just install it with dpkg. it doesn't depend on any other packages
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07:13.57Penixor, 'firmware-linux-free' rather
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07:29.35introom3Sorry. I didn't elaborate my last question well. I'd like to install the latest vim aka 7.4 on debian wheezy.
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07:30.00introom3Although I added wheezy-backports to source.list, but I found there was no 7.4 in the repo?
07:30.13introom3does that mean I have to compile it on my own?
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07:31.02babilendpkg: tell introom3 -about ssb
07:31.06babilenintroom3: It does, yes.
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07:32.19introom3babilen: ssh?
07:32.22introom3ssb?
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07:33.26Penixintroom3: read the msg from dpkg
07:33.33babilenintroom3: Exactly, it stands for "simple sid backport"
07:34.09introom3thanks. Wasn't aware of the pm.
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07:38.46introom3For checking the debian-backports, can I directly ask the dpkg bot or do I have to visit backports.debian.org?
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07:39.58wolsyou /msg judd   if a package has backport available it will tell you
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07:40.14babilenintroom3: You can use our bot judd. Read http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ about details, but you are looking for "/msg judd v $PKG"
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07:51.57introom3what's the difference between vim-nox and vim-common. There seems no difference according to the desc. on package.deb~.org
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07:53.20bazhang-nox is the ncurses version?
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07:54.22introom3bazhang: hmm? then what about the other?
07:55.25introom3the vim-common also uses ncurses as tui
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07:57.16bazhangintroom3, I'll check the debian packages site
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08:01.53bazhanghttp://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stable&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=vim  introom3
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08:02.58introom3Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: libgpmg1-dev. I am using build-dep, how?
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08:07.50introom3babilen: do you have/know any doc on building in the debian way? I am confronting with some problems now.
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08:13.24eject_ckHi all, I got zotac nano box http://www.zotacusa.com/specsheet/ZBOXNANO-VD01-U.pdf and want use it as PC for wall TV (actually Nagios dashboards). I wasn't able to get openchrome working (blank screen), so I have Xorg working with vesa driver. I want to control DISPLAY=:0 remotely (via VNC?). What are recommendations for remote control ?
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08:15.38bazhanghttp://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/debian-packaging.html   intricate
08:15.50bazhangwhoops introom3 sorry intricate
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08:34.54netbook-hdmi2tvBTW, Happy GNUvidad!
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08:47.52peterrooneynetbook-hdmi2tv: Yes, but it seems clear that you have a very different question that led to this one.
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08:50.54netbook-hdmi2tvpeterrooney,  yes. i want to root a Motorola Flipside using GNU/Linux
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09:03.33vol4koi am trying to add additional ip adress to my debian machine
09:03.42vol4kowhat is netmask in /etc/network/interfaces
09:03.42vol4ko?
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09:03.55vol4kois there arny method that i can add it automaticly
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09:23.36nkuttler(fwiw, if you don't know 255.255.255.0 would probably work)
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09:32.38vol4koI need to add additional ip address to my vps but don't know how to
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09:39.04Acceosvol4ko: You should check that with ur vps provider
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09:49.32AcceosYou should still contact the privider, because it seem like you may have entered wrong netmask etc. If it's a VPS that you pay for, then they should provide support for it.
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10:14.17Captain_Matrixseriously annoying :(
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11:41.15cusco_hi
11:41.15cusco_iCoisas?
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11:41.41cusco_happy chistmas day for those who celebrate it :)
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12:02.16powermaniacHi, could someone please tell me how to install AMD GPU drivers for Debian Jessie?
12:02.24powermaniacTried googling it and didn't find anything useful...
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12:05.03mjtthere should be nothing to install once you did a default install of jessie
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12:05.18mjtthe gpu drivers are installed out of the box
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12:06.27powermaniacmjt: Okay well I installed 7.3 Debian Wheezy and did an update in my sources.list to Jessie/Testing and well there isn't a Catalyst Control Center...(Sort of a noob at this) so I'm not sure what I'm meant to access...
12:06.35SOUL_OF_R00Tmerry christmas great guys
12:06.53abrotmanpowermaniac: which card?
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12:07.04powermaniacabrotman: ATI Radeon HD 5870
12:07.12abrotmanthats old?
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12:07.29powermaniacabrotman: About 4 years old now I think...
12:07.33abrotmandoes your glxinfo have direct rendering?
12:07.45powermaniacabrotman: How do I check that>
12:07.46powermaniac?
12:07.52abrotmanit's a command ..
12:09.05powermaniacabrotman: I will pastebin the output of that command for you
12:09.11abrotmanuhok
12:09.41powermaniacabrotman: http://pastebin.com/BpX0kSh6
12:10.07abrotmansyas yes, you're good
12:10.13powermaniacAhh now I see where it says direct rendering
12:10.22abrotmanyou're using the free/oss driver
12:10.28abrotman"radeon"
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12:10.36powermaniacOkay how do I access the control center for that then?
12:10.45abrotmanpowermaniac: to do what?
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12:11.04powermaniacabrotman: I need to get dual monitor support running and change the resolution.
12:11.42abrotmanxrandr AIUI
12:11.56ghost75i corrupted a file on btrfs by purpose and is not able to repair it
12:12.26abrotmandpkg: tell powermaniac about dual monitors
12:12.39abrotmanghost75: good for you!
12:12.47powermaniacabrotman: Thanks!
12:12.57abrotmanpowermaniac: good luck
12:13.08powermaniacabrotman: although xrandr AIUI didn't work looking at the --help for it now
12:13.17abrotmanread the wiki
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12:13.29powermaniacabrotman: Okay!
12:13.46abrotmanor links, whichever
12:14.17ghost75and if you dont know which file is corrupted you cannot fix it HAHA
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12:15.36abrotmanghost75: do you need help?
12:15.53ghost75no, maybe devs need help
12:16.06abrotman#btrfs IIRC
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12:21.24powermaniacabrotman: Is it possible to install the AMD catalyst drivers for Debian Jessie?
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12:43.37ghost75is there any reason to favor ext3 instead ext4 ?
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12:57.46Penixghost75: maybe inter-OS compatibilty. ext3 might be a better choice if you need to mount your fs under a different OS. some non-Linux systems (BSD etc.) support ext2/3, but not ext4
12:58.11Penixghost75: ext4 can be mounted as ext3, but only if the extents feature isn't used
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13:22.39phr3akhow could I install older kernel (2.6) to debian 7?
13:23.19cuscowhy would you want to do that?
13:23.32ompaulphr3ak: it won't work your libc is going to beat you up and send you to bed early
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13:25.47phr3akbecause I found a bug in 3.x kernel and I want to test it with older
13:25.52wolsompaul: some late 2.6 might actually work
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13:26.30cuscophr3ak: then you can install a old debian release? like lenny?
13:26.34cuscoor etch
13:26.37ompaulhe
13:26.39ompaulheh
13:26.45ompaulwols: hmm maybe
13:26.47wolslenny is way too old for it. udev will _not_ be happy at all
13:26.51ompaulbut I'd be skeptical
13:26.59wols,kernels
13:27.00juddAvailable kernel versions are: experimental: 3.12-trunk-686-pae (3.12.3-1~exp1); sid: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.6-1); jessie: 3.11-2-686-pae (3.11.10-1); wheezy-backports: 3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.11.10-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4)
13:27.16wolsphr3ak: the squeeze kernel might work.
13:27.23ompaulI'd suggest the wheezy backport first
13:27.37ompaulif it is patched then it is patched
13:27.43ompaulphr3ak: what is this bug
13:27.55phr3akthanks I downloaded from oldstable repo
13:27.56ompauland have you reported it / added to an existing bug
13:29.07phr3akcould you test it please and why it can't open more than 2000 connection parallel? http://gnet.hu/test/tcp.tar
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13:31.11ompaulphr3ak: are you talking about mysql?
13:31.15phr3akno
13:31.22phr3aksimple tcp connection
13:31.30ompaulfor what function?
13:31.41phr3aktest
13:31.55ompaulwon't run unknown code will read some of it
13:31.59ompaultime dependent
13:32.25phr3aksome line bash and perl
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13:40.00ompaulphr3ak: interesting but I got to think that is sysctl thing I'm gone digging for a bit
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13:41.32ompaulphr3ak: some online stuff I've seen suggests maintaining 1k is a lot for an unmodified box
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13:41.44ompaulbut not answering how / where to reset it
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13:42.19stasui need help with gcc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634209/
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13:43.34ompaulphr3ak:  5105 connections
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13:43.46ompaulphr3ak:  I doubled the two hard coded numbers
13:43.58ompaulphr3ak: so the other enumeration is strange
13:44.20ompaul6126 connections
13:45.05ompaulphr3ak: run this  ./test.sh  > foo
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13:45.21ompaulwatch what you see and then work out what is / isn't happening
13:45.31wolsompaul: with 3.2?
13:45.52ompauloh
13:45.55ompaulyes
13:46.04ompaulno
13:46.07ompaul3.12
13:46.09ompaulwrong box :)
13:46.17wolsnaughtily running sid again?
13:46.19ompaulsays sorry
13:46.24ompaulwols: when didn't I :)
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13:46.37ompaulI have stable boxes but not on this network
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13:46.54ompauland I don't want to violate company firewall rules (I wrote) today
13:47.03wolsruns sid with a wheezy kernel...
13:47.12ompaulwols: :)
13:47.19wolswriting firewall rules on xmas?
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13:47.26wolsaren't you catholic or something :P
13:47.34ompaulwols: I wrote one to keep me out over xmas
13:47.54ompaulwols: I'm such a skeptic I think richard dawkins is religious :)
13:47.57phr3akyou need to see the success lines
13:47.59phr3aksuccess: 2000, 1999: IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0xa3d5e10)
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13:48.09ompaulphr3ak: give me a min
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13:50.20ompaulphr3ak: it stops displaying sockets above that number I'm going to have fun with this for a few minutes
13:51.00phr3akyou can check in netstat
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13:51.12ompaulwols: btw small c catholic means esp. of a person's tastes) including a wide variety of things; all-embracing. RC is something else :) but that's a whole other story
13:52.13wolsompaul: ot. use a different channel
13:52.18ompaulthere is that
13:52.23ompaulfailed to notice
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14:00.25ompaulphr3ak: I did I it didn't close it seemed to wait a while a bunch of ports would close and then more would open
14:00.42ompaulphr3ak: as I said I doubled your numbers
14:00.57afidegnumhello pls anyone online? I am trying to install bitcoind to my debian squeeze server which seems not to be successful for hte past 9 hours now.
14:01.02afidegnumcan you please lend me a hand ?
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14:06.19Woetafidegnum: try being specific
14:06.28Woetinstead of "it doesnt seem to be successful"
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14:06.39Woetwhat are you doing, what isn't working, what are the error messages, what have you tried to resolve it yourself
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14:08.46afidegnum_when i trie
14:08.59afidegnum_Woet: were you able to get my past messages?
14:09.08wolsno we were not
14:09.21afidegnum_oh, I was disconnected
14:09.29afidegnum_Woet: on the normal backport repository, I am only being able to install bitcoin version 0.3.2 meanwhile the currentl version is 0.8.6
14:09.36afidegnum_the old version does't work anymore for the current bitcoin blockchains
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14:10.16nkuttlerafidegnum_: we don't really need the backstory, just your error. and we should probably keep this in #bitcoin anyway as compiling third part software isn't supported in #debian
14:11.00afidegnum_thanks,
14:11.21afidegnum_ok, the compilation is requesting for libminiupnpc8,
14:11.40afidegnumok, let's go to #bitcoin
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14:55.49z8zSorry guys to bother you but.....when the debian jigdo files will be fixed?
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15:01.01z8zI hope someone else recognised some Jigdo links are fucked up
15:01.46shwouchkI'm running debian wheezy. I would like to use a package that is available in debian sid, but don't want to migrate to sid in general. How would I do this?
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15:03.19nkuttlershwouchk: which package?
15:04.13shwouchknkuttler: tmux
15:04.44shwouchknkuttler: 1.8x specifically
15:04.53shwouchkwheezy has 1.6
15:05.01nkuttleroh waiz, wheezy has no backports yet anyway
15:05.04nkuttler!tell shwouchk about ssbp
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15:05.53dvs,v tmux
15:05.54juddPackage: tmux on i386 -- squeeze: 1.3-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1.3-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.6-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.6-2; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 1.8-3~bpo60+2; wheezy-backports: 1.8-5~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8-5; sid: 1.8-5
15:06.01shwouchknkuttler: thanks
15:06.17nkuttlerheh
15:06.18dvsThere is a 1.8 tmux in wheezy-backports
15:06.23shwouchkyes
15:06.34nkuttlermissed that
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15:07.18shwouchkso should I just add the wheezy-backports repo? or also as deb-src?
15:07.30nkuttlershwouchk: no need for src then
15:07.44z8zpage for bug report of debian?
15:07.50nkuttlerz8z: reportbug
15:07.57nkuttler!tell z8z about reportbug
15:08.42teclo-Hi there I'm trying to force grub2 "setting up" on a machine with a rescue cd... and after a chroot I get chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/bash’: Exec format error... I bet this is because /bin/bash is 64-bit but my rescue disk is 32bit... Is there some way to get around this problem ?
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15:09.20z8znkuttler: thanks... cause irc channel doesn't look like the proper place to report problems
15:10.09z8znkuttler: there are jigdo packages that are not working since the first day
15:10.12shwouchknkuttler: so just to make sure I understand, you say the best solution would be to add deb line for wheezy-backports and update?
15:10.40nkuttlershwouchk: yes, and apt-get install -t wheezy-backports tmux
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15:24.39shwouchknkuttler: thanks again!
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15:32.22Chantel84hey guys i know this might not be the place to ask but is there an apache expert here?
15:32.30Chantel84im getting a apache2: Syntax error on line 268 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 12 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/openerp: </Proxy> directive missing closing '>' Action 'configtest' failed.
15:32.48Chantel84On my Wheezy that is..
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15:33.34Chantel84Tried googlng but seems like this is a server specific and not a general problem
15:33.54Chantel84im trying to follow this http://acespritechblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/openerp-7-with-ssl-on-ubuntu-12-04/comment-page-1/#comment-330
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15:34.11Chantel84Yes on a Debian
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15:37.38tnwnsfhi can anyone tell me how to prevent dhclient from opening random udp ports  on debian wheezy ? I keep trying to find the config options but I can't find anything
15:38.52afidegnumhello, pls I have bitcoind script installed in /root/src/      how do I add it to $PATH so i can call the script directly without going to the folder ?
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15:56.04icerootafidegnum: are you sure it is a good idea to have that script in the root-dir? i guess you are also executing it as root and if root-account is not needed you should not execute something as root
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15:56.43afidegnumiceroot: I have compiled the program using the root account
15:56.47phaerI have a tmpfs of 512M mounted and it seems to be full (df, echo "test" > /mnt/my-tmpfs/test.txt) while du says that the files on it are just 3.5M in size after i deleted some unneeded stuff.
15:56.51afidegnumand mostly I login to the terminal using root
15:57.19phaerHow can i get the free space back?
15:57.23icerootafidegnum: you should not login as root
15:57.29afidegnumok
15:57.37icerootafidegnum: sudo is what you want instead when root-access is needed
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15:57.53afidegnumok
15:58.25afidegnumso how do i do it? do I create a different account and move the compiled script there?
15:58.34afidegnumI think they are already operating on a root account
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15:59.17phaernever mind, had some old processes attached to the deleted files
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16:18.43afidegnumanyone there?
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16:19.36phy1729afidegnum: what are you doing exactly?
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16:20.13afidegnumI have bitcoind script I want to add to $PATH so I can just call the script via the terminal without the need to go to its folder
16:20.40phy1729stick it in /usr/local/bin/
16:21.49afidegnumyou mean i should move the script to that folder?
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16:22.23phy1729yeah
16:22.32afidegnumok
16:22.52afidegnumthanks, it works :)
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16:32.31buueject_ck: That controls the existing x11 session
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16:50.26ooonakMerry Christmas. Anyone installed cwm (calm window manager) on debian?
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16:51.01peterrooney!poll
16:51.01dpkg"Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer.  Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you.  Also see <ask> and <bad polls>.
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16:53.37tnwnsfhi can anyone tell me how to prevent dhclient from opening random udp ports  on debian wheezy ? I keep trying to find the config options but I can't find anything
16:54.17ooonakSorry, thank you for your advice - Im new to this IRC stuff, was not aware of the policy.
16:55.24ooonak<ask>
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17:04.11xomphi, could someone possibly help me get my RaLink RT73 USB Wireless adapter working in Wheezy? I followed this > https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt73#Installation but it still says "Firmware not found" in the Network Manager for the Wireless device.
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17:05.11UrkAnyone on here use XFCE?
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17:11.36peterrooneyooonak: it's not a strict policy, but it saves a lot of time when used.  Also, IRC is about as far from a random sample as you can get and still be called a sample.
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17:15.47adkins42ello,
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17:17.39adkins42Hello, i have a 42inch full hd TV and i dont like my tiny font. If i set it to 96x96 dpi in xorg.conf the font looks good, but i`m not sure if i loose some quality. Online calculators and ubuntuuser-site say i should set it to 52.45........how should i set it for best results?
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17:31.58petn-randalladkins42: Most desktop environments allow you to set the default font size. Have you tried that yet?
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17:33.13adkins42petn-randall: does the dpi setting affect only the font-size? doesnt make any difference to the quality while watching full hd movies?
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17:33.55sussudiomovies are displayed in fonts now?
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17:34.36afidegnumhello, pls how do I fix this issue? Starting web server: apache2(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 23.22.33.22:80
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17:34.49afidegnumno listening sockets available, shutting down
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17:36.12adkins42sussudio: you also could just say "No" but thanks anyway ;)
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17:43.21wolsafidegnum: you already are running a webserver on the port
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17:44.01afidegnumwols I just noticed the culprit, it's varnish
17:44.11afidegnumI have assigned port 8080 to varnish
17:44.17afidegnumand 80 to apache2
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17:49.58jhge0xdI changed sources to wheezy and apt-get dist-upgrade , but it broken in the middle, and now retrying it or apt-get install -f causes it to calculate some dependencies with thousands of conflicts etc... what is this shit
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17:50.16jhge0xdit can not find a solution about what to install and what to remove
17:50.49jhge0xd!upgrade
17:50.49dpkgupgrade is, like, what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude.  Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade.  Ask me about <security>.  If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first.  Ask me about <lenny->squeeze> <squeeze->wheezy>.
17:51.01jhge0xd!squeeze->wheezy
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17:52.35jelly-homedpkg, tel jhge0xd about squeeze->wheezy
17:52.35dpkgjelly-home: I don't know, could you explain it?
17:52.39jelly-homedpkg, tell jhge0xd about squeeze->wheezy
17:52.48jelly-homedpkg, tell jhge0xd about squeeze->wheezy failures
17:52.51jhge0xdjelly-home: already reading failures options, trying it
17:53.33jelly-homeok, no need to lecture you about not reading the release notes, then
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17:54.18jhge0xdapt-get works better in this case... too bad aptitude didn't mentioned that
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18:14.25ceptorHello, I am experiencing high load (>15) and sluggishness on a dual core server, despite CPU usage and I/O being low. Any Idea how to troubleshoot this? top/htop yields no information.
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18:16.29ceptorI/O is less than 800KiB/s, CPU usage is less than 20% with no High-Priority stuff running. There is 4GB of free memory left. I'm a little confused. :)
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18:21.24ghost75_is there a backup feature for raid superblock on md device?
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18:22.19zerickceptor, yeah but. which process is suing more mem/cpu ? (on htop output)
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18:24.06abrotmanghost75_: dd?
18:24.19ghost75_yeah thought so :>
18:24.30ghost75_last 512 blocks should do it
18:27.41ceptorzerick: According to htop, kvm/qemu uses 5% CPU and 30% RAM for an Idle database VM.
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18:30.35pbr500anyone know of a good CLI xmpp client that supports otr?
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18:30.48abrotmanpbr500: finch should
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18:31.08donvltohello guys i decided to install debian 7.3 on 64bit wich image should i download ?
18:31.27donvltoamd64 ?
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18:31.50zinxdonvlto: yes
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18:32.17donvltothanks
18:32.29donvltodo i need the dvd or the cd1 only ?
18:32.45zinxdonvlto: if you have a good internet connection, get a network install cd
18:32.53bazhangwhy not the netinstall
18:33.02donvltoi dont have good net
18:33.08donvltoits only 80kbps
18:33.16zinxthat's fine
18:33.23donvltono it will take to much
18:33.24zinxyou download less w/ the netinstall
18:33.28pbr500abrotman: i spent some time trying to find a way to use otr in finch but couldn't figure out if it's possible. someone made their own version of purple-otr that should work with finch but i don't know if 1) it's trustworthy 2) how to compile it to work with finch   https://gitorious.org/purple-otr
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18:33.32donvltohm
18:33.41donvltook let me try the netinstall
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18:34.24donvltoso what will i get with netinstall?
18:34.37donvltothats kind of manual install right
18:34.38abrotmanwould rather use the netinst at 80kbps than download all of CD1 only to use half the packages
18:34.53abrotmandonvlto: you can get anything you want if your internet works
18:34.57abrotmanpbr500: that seems odd to me
18:35.06ghost75_how i start X in recovery live iso ?
18:35.12donvltowich desktop will be installed by default?
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18:35.36abrotmandonvlto: whichever you want
18:35.45abrotmandonvlto: you can change that, but if you don't change it, you'll get gnome3
18:35.50donvltookey
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18:35.51abrotmanpbr500: centerim? bittlebee?
18:35.53donvltoi want cinanmon
18:36.03abrotmandonvlto: it's not in Wheezy, sorry
18:36.13donvltohum?
18:36.16abrotmandonvlto: it's not in Wheezy, sorry
18:36.21donvltobut can be installed?
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18:36.39abrotmandonvlto: not officially and it won't be supported here
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18:36.59donvltoso wich desktops are supported?
18:37.08donvltoxfce, kde, gnome
18:37.09ghost75_is debian-live-7.2-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso the smallest one with X ?
18:37.09donvlto?
18:37.21abrotmandonvlto: those are available
18:37.27donvltookk
18:37.33qkzoo1978Hi trying to install Debian.  I get to point where it asks me to load ipw-2200.few on USB disk to continue.  I copied the firmware files to a separate USB drive insert and press enter to continue, and it keeps asking the same question again, like it can't find the few files.  Any tips?
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18:37.51abrotmanqkzoo1978: the installation guide convers how to do this
18:37.58pbr500abrotman: odd as in shady? or that finch doesn't easily support OTR?
18:38.10abrotmanodd it doesn't work
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18:38.17qkzoo1978I must have missed it, got a direct link to relative section?
18:38.32abrotmandpkg: tell qkzoo1978 about frimware
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18:38.37abrotmandpkg: tell qkzoo1978 about firmware installer
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18:39.34jarkko___i assume the name is  wrong or wrong directory
18:39.42jarkko___cannot  help
18:39.45abrotman...
18:39.47pbr500abrotman: well i didn't even try to compile it because i don't know how. newbie here. i have all the dependencies needed to compile a program but not sure if i would need to compile it in a particular finch folder or if finch would detect it automatically, etc
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18:40.33abrotmanpbr500: so try another client like centerim or bittlebee
18:41.01donvltoanyone have idea why my computer just freez without warning ?
18:41.06donvltoand i must hardreboot it ?
18:41.14donvltoim checking ram right now
18:41.20abrotmandonvlto: there are zero details there
18:41.28pbr500abrotman: i'm reading about them now. thanks
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18:42.11qkzoo1978Hmm, it was loaded on a fat32 formatted USB disk, still wasn't detected.
18:42.18abrotmanpbr500: sorry, bitlbee
18:44.43pbr500abrotman: centerim doesn't support otr but bitlbee looks promising
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18:45.13abrotmanpbr500: there is also a #pidgin which may know more about finch
18:45.26abrotman(finch is their CLI version of Pidgin)
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18:49.25pbr500abrotman: those guys in #pidgin are always asleep or afk. never have gotten a response all the times i visited their channel
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18:49.55abrotmanheh, okay
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18:52.06Tekk_I'm having some trouble with a radeon hd 7770. I installed fglrx-driver and ran aticonfig --initial, but everything seems like it's happening in software. amdcccle will pop up and let me click through some stuff, but fgl_glxgears won't run
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18:54.19RarleyTekk_: if you happen to find a solution, please post it. I have the same problem (as well as some random kernel panics every now and then when using the free radeon driver instead).
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19:03.49codygmanWhy does (xorg I think) disable my right touchpad button by default and make me put two fingers on the touchpad, then left click... to right click. It seems the more debian (useful) default would be to use the pyhsical right click button.
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19:06.03codygmanI don't recall making any specific customizations for this behavior, and I've tried to get used to it, but its quite annoying.
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19:07.23oxezHello. I have a quick question. If I have testing in my sources.list file (not jessie), what happens when the jessie freeze happens? Am I now on the next version's testing repo or will I still be in jessie's testing, with the freeze?
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19:08.51mtnoxez: if you have testing in the sources.list, you will always be running testing, no matter what it is called
19:08.55Tekk_Rarley: apparently the current catalyst driver has been broken with new linuxen for a quite a while, but supposedly the beta driver from amd can work
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19:10.45RarleyTekk_: thanks, I'll try it. I've been having quite an awful experience with all ATI drivers so far. :)
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19:11.18oxezmtn: Ok thanks. I was under the impression that using 'testing' meant I would also get the freeze, I wasn't sure. thanks.
19:11.45pederindiWhen will be available debian 7.3 live lxde cd1 ? Thanks. link: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/
19:12.12ghost75_after i finish download 7.2
19:12.32mtnoxez: yes, you will get the freeze. then when jessie goes stable, the freeze will be broken and so will testing, probably.
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19:13.36pbr500i never understood why people say testing becomes unstable after a release goes stable. can you explain that?
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19:14.22mtnpbr500: a sudden influx of packages, which may be missing some  dependencies for awhile
19:14.36Tekk_pbr500: basically once the freeze is over everything from sid gets pushed into testing
19:15.52pbr500so everything from testing goes to stable, and everything from unstable goes to testing?
19:16.19pbr500but when wheezy became stable i remember running a dist-upgrade and barely any packages were updated
19:16.49mtnpbr500: dist upgrade from what to wheezy?
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19:17.35pbr500i had wheezy, which at that point was testing. but then it became stable so i ran a dist-upgrade expecting a bunch of new package updates but got none.
19:17.49pbr500wait that makes sense now that i type it out. it was no longer testing
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19:18.35mtnpbr500: yep.
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19:21.14pbr500will any .deb file install onto debian even if it is intended for ubuntu?
19:21.48pbr500in particular pidgin. their website has a .deb for ubuntu but for "other linux" they give you source code
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19:23.21nkuttlerpbr500: no
19:23.36nkuttlerpbr500: what's wrong with the packaged piding anway?
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19:25.27pbr500older version which doesn't do video that well when using xmpp
19:25.43freerouteMerry Christmas everyone!
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19:28.03nkuttler,v pidgin
19:28.05juddPackage: pidgin on i386 -- squeeze: 2.7.3-1+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 2.7.3-1+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 2.10.6-3~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.10.6-3; jessie: 2.10.7-2+b1; sid: 2.10.7-2+b1
19:28.24nkuttlerpbr500: you can get 2.10 on wheezy
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19:29.28pbr500not 2.10.7 that i know of
19:30.00nkuttlerpbr500: yeah, no backport for that yet
19:30.12nkuttler!tell pbr500 about ssbp
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19:31.30pbr500there isn't any sort of roadmap to predict when a certain version of a package will enter wheezy is there? been waiting patiently for thunar and pidgin to be updated for a while now. but i prefer using stable so i won't grab anything from sid
19:31.40abrotmandpkg: tell pbr500 about meaning of stable
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19:33.09pbr500abrotman: ya, i am one of those that prefer stable. but i hoped at least the newer thunar would make it into wheezy-backports
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19:38.02Captain_Matrixhow do I stop apache from displaying the /manual directory in debian ?
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19:41.53nkuttlerCaptain_Matrix: rgrep manual /etc/apache2/ ? probably some alias
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19:44.42Captain_Matrixnkuttler: found it , was under conf.d thanks
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19:54.28donvltohello again, im trying to download openssh-server but it says mediachange: please insert the disc labeled
19:54.36donvltoalso im trying sudo apt-get install openssh-server
19:54.46wedgedonvlto: check your /etc/apt/sources.list file
19:54.53wedgemake sure you got repositories in there
19:54.58wedgeuncomment the cdrom repo
19:55.01wedgethen run apt-get update
19:55.03wedgethen try again
19:55.04donvltook
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19:55.40donvltowhy i cant use like in ubuntu
19:55.42donvltosudo ?
19:55.58Tekk_donvlto: because you haven't added yourself to sudoers
19:56.15donvltobut should i install sudo first?
19:56.20Tekk_probably
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19:57.50donvltoit says that sudo is avaiable from another source
19:57.52donvltobang
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19:59.26donvltoi have only two sources in sources.lst
19:59.29donvltoshould i add more?
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20:00.54phy1729donvlto: because you set a root password on install
20:01.18phy1729if you don't set a root password it sets sudo up
20:02.07donvltohttps://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
20:02.14donvltoi added sources from here
20:02.20donvltoits ok
20:02.21donvlto?
20:04.10donvltophy1729 can i install sudo too?
20:05.14abrotmanit's already installed
20:05.20abrotmanyou just haven't configured it
20:05.27donvltohow to do that
20:05.28donvlto?
20:05.31abrotmanman sudoers
20:05.34donvltohm in ubuntu its easy
20:05.36donvltolol
20:05.39donvltoloool
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20:08.05reavengrey!tell donvlto about sudo
20:09.38donvltofound it on google
20:09.40donvltothanks reavengrey
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20:10.01donvltoim just new to debian, till i found out how things work out here
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20:12.40UrkIs sublime text part of the stable repository?  I only find the following two files:   libsublime-dev (development files for the sublime user interface library); 2) libsublime5 (user interface library).  What is the actual name of the program?
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20:15.11donvltoCould not resolve 'security.debian.org'
20:15.12donvltoFailed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/p/php5/php5-cli_5.4.4-14+deb7u7_i386.deb
20:15.17donvltowhy i get errors souch this?
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20:16.30donvltoi get many errors like this when i try to install build-essentials too
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20:17.16nkuttlerdonvlto: paste.debian.net, paste the entire error
20:17.20nkuttlerand the command you used
20:18.25RarleyUrk: Sublime Text is not in the repositories. It's proprietary.
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20:18.33donvltoould not add your entry to the paste database:
20:18.33donvltoYour ip (77.29.184.210) is listed on http://www.projecthoneypot.org/. If this was a false positive please contact the admin
20:18.35donvltoagrrrrrrrrrrrr
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20:19.58donvltohttp://pastebin.com/YifgKSd7
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20:20.47nkuttlerdonvlto: cat /etc/resolv.conf
20:21.10donvltonertil@wheezy:/var/etc$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
20:21.10donvlto# Generated by NetworkManager
20:21.35donvltothats it just that
20:21.49nkuttlerdonvlto: can you resolve any hostnames? like ping google.com
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20:23.31donvltono
20:23.32donvltowhy ?
20:23.37donvltogoogls is unknown host
20:24.03nkuttlerdonvlto: well, your network configuration is broken. do you use dhcp, a static config, etc?
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20:24.23nkuttlerfwiw, echo 8.8.8.8 >> /etc/resolv.conf should fix this temporarily
20:24.40nkuttlerer
20:24.49nkuttlerecho nameserver 8.8.8.8 >> /etc/resolv.conf
20:25.11donvltowait
20:25.19donvltoi think i fixed by adding auto dhcp
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20:25.52nkuttleryeah, that should help if your dhcpd works properly
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20:26.08donvltothanks
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20:31.56donvltowhy ifconfig command doesnt work?
20:32.32nkuttlerdonvlto: how does it not work?
20:32.43donvltowhen i type ifconfig
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20:32.59donvltonertil@wheezy:/var/etc$ ifconfig
20:32.59donvlto-bash: ifconfig: command not found
20:33.01donvltoi get this
20:33.10nkuttlerdonvlto: yeah, it's not on the PATH for normal users
20:33.19nkuttler/sbin/ifconfig
20:33.39donvltohow to make it for normal users?
20:33.43donvltoor at least sudoers
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20:33.53abrotmandonvlto: use the full path to the binary
20:34.00donvltookey
20:34.07nkuttler!tell donvlto about path
20:34.09jelly-homehowever, /bin/ip
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20:34.43donvltoill just use sudo ifconfig
20:34.44donvlto:)
20:34.53jelly-homeifconfig is deprecated, now in Debian, too!
20:34.54abrotmanbrilliant
20:35.01abrotmanjelly-home: has been for what .. 10 years?
20:35.30jelly-homeabrotman: upstream, maybe, but all released versions of ifupdown required it until wheezy
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20:36.05abrotmanjelly-home: I mean, in the documentation
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20:36.44jelly-homeno idea, but I don't trust documentation that differs from actual state
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20:39.18abrotmanthat never happens
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20:48.03donvltototal 792
20:48.03donvlto-rwxrwxrwx 1 nertil nertil  26534 Dec 25  2013 CCcam.cfg
20:48.03donvlto-rwxr-xr-x 1 nertil nertil 780961 Dec 21 16:59 CCcam.x86
20:48.12donvltohow to give this two files full rights for root?
20:48.27ninja9k1root always has full access to files
20:48.53donvltowhen i try to run cccam.x86
20:48.56donvltoi get segmention fault
20:48.58Godseychown root:root CCcam.x86
20:49.01donvltothans
20:49.06Godseychmod +s CCcam.x86
20:49.08ninja9k1but if you want to actually assign ownership to root, you can do 'sudo chown root:root CCcam.*'
20:49.11ninja9k1without the ' '
20:49.14Godseysudo is probably better
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20:54.02abrotmanpermissions probably won't fix a segfault ?
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20:54.31donvltoroot@wheezy:/var/etc#
20:54.31donvlto[1]+  Segmentation fault      ./CCcam.x86
20:54.40donvltodo it need to be executable ?
20:55.12Tylertwoassumedly yes
20:55.25donvltoim trying chmod 0777 CCcam.x86
20:55.27donvltobut nothing hapens
20:55.58abrotmanit's not going to fix it ..
20:56.02TylertwoAccording to your earlier post it's already executable.
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20:57.47donvltoso what may be wrong
20:59.04donvltothis the same method i use just worked on ubuntu
20:59.09donvltolooks like debian its nor for me
21:01.11abrotmanperhaps
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21:17.35banjohi. a mystrious thing happend. i downloaded netinstall iso 7.1.0-ia64. boot from cd on a amd64. installed debian with amd64 kernel but all packages are installed as i386. what happended?:)
21:18.10abrotmanbanjo: ia64 is for Itanium.  I doubt you have Itanium ?
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21:19.02banjoi know the failure was download ia64 but i didnt recognize it then. lscpu says: x86_64
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21:21.48boudiccashow do i login to my router from my browser please? i thought that it was 192.0.1.1 but that didnt work
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21:22.40LtLboudiccas: try 192.168.0.1
21:22.43comradekinguboudiccas: its probably 192.168.*.*
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21:24.01boudiccasthanks folks, just trying LtL suggestion atm, but its taking its time
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21:25.15boudiccasgot it, at 'http://192.168.1.1/'
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21:30.09adkins42can someone tell me where alsa stores the information about which sound-output is the default one?
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21:31.35adkins42i made a file in home folder .asoundrc and also one in /etc/asound.conf , in which i put the default device
21:31.40adkins42put it seems to ignore it
21:32.43adkins42in alsamixer i have 3 different s/pdif, one of them is the default but its not the one i want to be the default
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21:33.54Guest76763hai!
21:35.39ws2k3hello i was wondering are there any web interfaces to manage keepalived? we have 10 servers with all different kinda vips and if we need to add one ip or something we need to login on 10 boxes and change the config etc
21:36.40nkuttlerws2k3: sounds like you want a configuration management tool
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21:38.36CristatusuI'm having problems with my Debian install process
21:38.39Cristatusuit seems to hang
21:38.49Cristatusui think it's a kernel panic
21:38.59Cristatusucan i get help troubleshooting?
21:39.34abrotmanneed more info
21:39.43nkuttlerCristatusu: try to switch to a console, ctrl-alt-f1 etc
21:39.47nkuttlerand, well, debug
21:39.54Cristatusuits a wheezy install
21:42.02Cristatusuwell, normally, i get a verbose output one CTRL+ALT+F4
21:43.24Cristatusuand the computer freezes at: [date+time] kernel: [   107.177139] ---[end trace  188bba003cf59fa7]---
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21:49.05oneplanehave you tried shotgun diagnostics such as a smart check or memtest?
21:49.19Cristatusui'll rurn a memtest from the install cd
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21:50.48Cristatusuwhere do i find the memtest on the install CD?
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21:51.29oneplanenot sure if it as that, but memtest iso is small, you can also run it from usb, so you can get it at the memtest86+ site
21:52.02Cristatusumy GRUB has it... :D
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21:52.10oneplanemy GRUB as it too :D
21:52.15oneplaneGRUB is awesome.
21:52.59babilenoneplane: Well, no wonder if it is installed ;)
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21:59.35Go|dfish_God COMMANDS everyone TO REPENT
21:59.50Cristatusustarts repenting
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22:03.27CristatusuUbuntu installed for me no problem, but the Debian installer keeps giving me problems
22:03.44Cristatusufirst i had to disable my FDD from my BIOS
22:03.48Cristatusuand now this kernel panic
22:04.17Togusaare you installing from USB?
22:04.17CristatusuCD
22:04.20Togusano idea then
22:04.21CristatusuI wish I could figure out how to install from USB
22:04.54CristatusuIf I was installing from USB, what would say the solution is?
22:04.56ompaulCristatusu: cat debian*.iso > /dev/sdb   << note two things no numbers and the b is the letter for the usb
22:05.15ompaulCristatusu: also md5sum the iso image before you start
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22:06.03Cristatusuis there a prefered way to do an md5 check on a Win7 machine?
22:06.35ompaulCristatusu: tell me you didn't use unetbootin
22:06.45ompaulit doesn't work with debian
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22:07.06ompaulCristatusu: you can google md5sum windows and get a binary from a reputable source
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22:08.17Cristatusuompaul, to install Ubuntu?
22:08.33Cristatusuoh...no, for Debian I didn't
22:08.43ompaulCristatusu: I wouldn't know how to install ubuntu
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22:08.55ompaulin the past I may have known
22:09.09CristatusuI burned the ISO to the CD using the Windows provided "Windows Disc Image Burner"
22:09.30ompaulburn as image
22:09.33ompauland it should work
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22:09.49ompaulburn it as slow as possible there are many ways to burn on windows I am not familiar with them
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22:10.28Cristatusuis there a way where I can get a copy of what the console is outputting?
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22:10.37Cristatusuduring the install
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22:10.43oneplaneno, unless you can use a serial console
22:10.55Cristatusuno idea
22:11.14oneplanecan you install squeeze?
22:11.26oneplaneand is a CD the only option?
22:11.33oneplanealso, does the panic happen when booting the installer?
22:11.40oneplaneare you using 32-bit or 64-bit
22:11.48oneplaneIDE or SATA
22:12.09oneplanedo you have a USB drive with at least 4GB space?
22:12.23oneplanebecause then you could use tools like UntBootIn
22:12.25oneplaneUnetbootin*
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22:16.14whonnssxHello, I have a question. is it possible to set permissions for a shared folder (samba) in a NTFS partition? It seems that only the user that mounted the shared directory has read-write access
22:16.17ompaul!unetbootin
22:16.17dpkgUNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions.  http://unetbootin.sf.net/  Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems.  Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
22:16.37ompauloneplane: Cristatusu ^^
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22:17.00Cristatusuoneplane: I haven't tried installing squeeze, I could try to install using the USB, but I'm not quite sure how it works (i tried a few times but i couldn't understand how to make the USB), panic happens after the installer has booted and is detecing the cd drive (i think- i'm just going to go and cofirm it), using 32 bit, i'm using IDE everywhere, i do have a USB with more than 4 gb
22:17.06Cristatusu*phew*
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22:17.44ompaulCristatusu: one of the things you can try is to move the usb stick around various ports
22:17.47Cristatusudo I have to use UNetbootin on the machine that I'm going to be using, or can I use a diffferent maching?
22:18.05ompaulCristatusu: read it Unetbootin will fail with debian
22:18.27Cristatusui'm not using unetbootin
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22:19.16whonnssxany idea about the permission problem?
22:19.22spm_DragetCan someone help me to understand/solve this dependency conflict: http://dpaste.com/1523206/ ? If I understood correctly, libgamin0 is a dependency of fail2ban. But it cannot be installed because… it needs 'libfam0' but 'libfam-2.7.0-17' is installed…?
22:19.23Cristatusu!usb install
22:19.24dpkgYou can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB.  Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images.  Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows.  For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>.
22:20.06touilGood evening. I have a problem I am not able to solve. I'm still quite a newbie on debian.
22:20.15ompaul,v libfam0
22:20.16juddPackage: libfam0 on i386 -- jessie: 2.7.0-17; sid: 2.7.0-17; squeeze: 2.7.0-17; wheezy: 2.7.0-17
22:20.23touilI use a tool called "samsung-tools" on my wheezy.
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22:21.12touilAnd the initialisation script is not loaded at start, resulting in my wifi, bluetooth, and webcam being on every time I reboot.
22:21.22Cristatusuompaul, oneplane : it hangs at "Detect network hardware"
22:21.26spm_DragetAh yes, wheezy ofcourse =)
22:22.58ompaulCristatusu: which version of debian are you trying to install
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22:23.34touilsudo service samsung-tools start   gives me : unrecognized service.
22:23.42touilWhy is it unrecognized ?
22:23.51ninja9k1does it exist in /etc/init.d ?
22:23.54ompaultouil: where did you get this software from?
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22:24.18sashmanis it possible to change desktop environment completly?
22:24.21touilfrom Voria, the man who did this.
22:24.25ompaulsashman: yes
22:24.35ompaultouil: it is not a debian package you might want to talk to him
22:24.47sashmanompaul: can u recommend me one?
22:24.49touilOn his launchpad.
22:25.06ompaultouil: this is not ubuntu help did you know that?
22:25.26ompaul!ubuntu
22:25.26dpkgUbuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian.  Only Debian is supported on #debian.  Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead.  Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian.  See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>.
22:25.29touilYes.
22:25.35touilI am not on ubuntu.
22:25.39sashmani saw this iwm3 or what was it called it looks kinda sexy
22:25.40ompaulsashman: the best idea I have for you is TIAS
22:26.07sashmanompaul: mhh never heard
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22:26.12Photonokee
22:26.16touilI'm using wheezy, but this program worked well when i WAS on ubuntu.
22:26.18ompaultouil: so you took a binary from outside debian and tried to run it on a debian platform, ask the author
22:26.30ompaultouil: not how it works
22:26.38ompaul!frankendebian
22:26.39dpkgWhen you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess.  There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try.  See if you can convince ##linux to help.
22:26.55ompaulsashman: try it and see
22:27.20touilOk ok. Sorry to have bothered you with that.
22:27.51ompaulsashman: we don't do suggestions for something as broad a use case for desktop environments nothing is 100% perfect - pick one if it doesn't work for you apt-get remove --purge packagenamegoeshere is your friend
22:28.30sashmank man thx
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22:29.35touilI should say at least that this program was not intended to run on ubuntu only. It also runs on other distributions, including not debian ones. It is not a package, I compiled it from the sources.
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22:30.37jelly-hometouil: did you compile it on debian?
22:30.42touilOf course.
22:30.52jelly-hometouil: does it come with an init script?
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22:32.34touilhem, in which folder in the source should I find it ? Under which name ?
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22:33.18jelly-homethat's a very good question
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22:33.41touilThere is a systemd folder, with samsung-tools.service in it.
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22:33.56jelly-homeunfortunately debian does not come with systemd by default
22:34.18touilShould I install systemd ?
22:34.24jelly-homethat's not a good idea
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22:34.49jelly-homeits usage is rather experimental at this time
22:34.56touilOk.
22:35.21Cristatususo if i change the extension of the .iso file to .img in windows, will it work?
22:35.35Cristatusu(for win32diskimager)
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22:36.35ompaulCristatusu: no, that's not how that works
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22:36.58babilenCristatusu: It should be possible to simply change the search mask, but then you *can* rename it. The data doesn't change.
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22:37.22ompaulCristatusu: here are may ways to make that cd work  http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-windows
22:37.59jelly-homeCristatusu: I don't think you have to change the name at all?
22:38.43jelly-hometouil: ask the vendor about an init script suitable for debian's sysvinit
22:38.56touilOk.
22:39.15touilWhat should this file look like ?
22:39.15Cristatususo then how would i get Win 32 Disk Imager (a program recommended on the page linked by the dpkg bot when asked [!usb install])
22:39.22touila python script ?
22:40.08Cristatususo then how would i get Win 32 Disk Imager (a program recommended on the page linked by the dpkg bot when asked [!usb install]) to accept the .iso file, if the program can only use .img files?
22:40.42ompaulit will accept your iso file
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22:42.26ompaulCristatusu: get a way that does support iso cos I just found the docs for that and it doesn't
22:43.11Cristatusui'm going to try plop
22:43.27byteIs anyone running Google Talk Plugin for Deb stable?
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22:47.18jelly-homeCristatusu: just pick Files of type: *.* in the file dialog first
22:47.48jelly-homeit's a common windows ui idiom
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22:53.54pederindiHi, some way to associate a x window with his process / program? I see "xwininfo" but don't show the pid. Thanks for reading
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22:55.55Rarleypederindi: there's no way to do that easily.
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22:56.28pederindiRarley: ...
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22:57.22icerootpederindi: i know that ubuntu-bug can do that, dont know which tool ubuntu-bug is using for that but you click on a window and you will get the process name and pid
22:58.28icerootpederindi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Collecting_information_about_a_program_with_a_window_open  that is getting the process name and the pid
22:58.38icerootand yes, i know this is #debian :)
22:58.58pederindiiceroot: nice, for install it on debian is: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools ?
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22:59.27icerootpederindi: i dont think so
22:59.29icerootmichael@bestian:~$ apt-file search ubuntu-bug
22:59.29icerootmichael@bestian:~$
23:00.05icerooti dont know what program ubuntu-bug is using for that, so i dont know if it is in debian also
23:00.09Rarleypederindi: let me elaborate... I don't know what ubuntu-bug does but... one problem is that this requires a property to be set, which few applications do set (_NET_WM_PID). Another problem is that since X is a server, the window may actually be running on another machine.
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23:01.11spm_DragetCan someone help me to understand/solve this dependency conflict: http://dpaste.com/1523206/ ?
23:01.43icerootpederindi: maybe "xprop" is what you are searching for
23:02.16mtnspm_Draget: paste you sources.list to dpaste.com and give us the link
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23:04.37[olli]re all
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23:05.03[olli]I've a question related to raid1 in Linux.
23:05.26[olli]Is it has sense to make a raid1 of 1 hdd and 1 ssd?
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23:05.41pederindiiceroot: nice, I think is xprop like this: xprop | grep PID
23:06.03[olli]I mean that it will be meaningful only if it is possible to make all reads from ssd, but writing to both.
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23:06.34iceroot[olli]: no
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23:07.16iceroot[olli]: and normally reading also means writing because when you open a file a lot of programs are creating a lock file or a temp-swap file (like vim)
23:07.30pederindiRarley: Thanks for indicate that the pid is in: _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) (showed by xprop application). The situation that you present: x server in a server, and running in other place is very uncommon, for what I know
23:07.37[olli]iceroot, thanks.
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23:10.04Rarleypederindi: you are welcome. Note that _NET_WM_PID not being present is actually quite common.
23:10.38donvltohow to find cccam.cfg file were is located ?
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23:26.19spm_Dragetmtn: http://dpaste.com/1523264/ are all my sources.list entries
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23:29.31byteWhat is the difference between vme and vmx, when they are listed as a CPU flag?
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23:41.10jelly-homebyte: they're different things
23:41.33jelly-homeeach flag denotes a specific feature
23:42.20jelly-homebyte: try to ask the bot, it might know more: /msg dpkg vme
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23:48.34bytejelly-home>  I know they are different, but I am trying to figure whether or not my computer will run kvm virtualiziation.   The info I found online suggest it won't.  I think I am supposed to have a flag called vmx
23:49.00jelly-homebyte: vmx on intel, svm on amd
23:49.13jelly-homebyte: have you asked dpkg about it?
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23:50.10byteyes, and I don't think my machine is capable of running kvm.  Well Boohoo.  My machine is a bit old, and I am wondering whether or not it pays to buy another processor?
23:50.36byteWhat a shame...
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23:52.27jhutchinsbyte: You'll probably need a newer motherboard as well.
23:52.58jelly-homehad svm on a 2007 amd workstation at work
23:53.10jhutchinsbyte: Then you hit problems with isa and pci cards not being supported.  ...and of course new RAM, probably video.
23:53.32bytesounds like a new computer
23:54.04byteI don't have any isa.  My computer is about six years old, but a couple of the peripherals were updated.
23:54.07jhutchinsbyte: Especially if the power supply doesn't have the new style of connector.
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