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00:00.47 | zykotick9 | monsterco: i certainly hope you didn't take what i said as a recommendation to install n-m... best of luck. |
00:01.48 | mousedrag | having trouble running gnome-control-center |
00:02.32 | mousedrag | could someone direct me to the gnome logs which would contain information regarding gnome-control-center crashing? |
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00:04.51 | nabblet | ok, i'm backin. everything seems to be ok and i can access the ext hdd. thank you somiaj zykotick9 mumpitzel - one question though: is that limitation with the identical ids not bothering anyone? |
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00:05.42 | nabblet | i mean, how do you usually transfer data then (with a pendrive or similar)? copy them as root and then chown them? |
00:05.49 | mousedrag | nvm gotta debug with gdk_synchronize |
00:05.59 | zykotick9 | nabblet: i always create the same first user on my system. so UIDs match for NFS (in my case). |
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00:06.24 | nabblet | zykotick9: and if you pass a pendrive to a friend? |
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00:06.28 | nabblet | vfat? |
00:06.31 | mousedrag | damn its because of my dumb video card |
00:07.02 | zykotick9 | nabblet: hasn't been an issue for me. no gnu/linux friends ;) |
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00:07.44 | mumpitzel | nabblet: your friend can chroot it himself if he needs to: he is root on his machine |
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00:08.12 | nabblet | ok, i have to admit, it's the frist time this issue struck me. i think i had that problem before, but didn't understand it back then... i copied as root and then chown'ed |
00:08.14 | zykotick9 | nabblet: you could technically apply all permissions to the files/directories and share using ext? |
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00:11.06 | nabblet | zykotick9: mumpitzel anyway, thank you two and somiaj for your great help! ... now where was I, ah yes! backups on my ext. hdd :P |
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00:17.44 | peterS | hrrmph, seems $PPID in bash is not kept up to date. is there a simple "am I an orphan" check that actually works? |
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00:17.52 | peterS | and yes I know about kill -0 $PPID but that's technically racey |
00:18.02 | themill | any check is going to be |
00:18.25 | peterS | no, not any check. if your parent is pid 1, you're an orphan. there just doesn't seem to be an easy way to tell that. |
00:18.37 | peterS | I mean besides running ps explicitly |
00:18.52 | themill | you could become an orphan between checking and then acting on that information; any check can be racey |
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00:19.06 | peterS | the race with kill -0 $PPID is that another unrelated process could pick up the same ID as $PPID sometime after your real PPID dies |
00:19.17 | themill | yes, that's yet another problem |
00:19.44 | peterS | but if you check and your current PPID is 1, then you're an orphan and that fact won't change |
00:19.56 | koollman | peterS: here's a valid check : are you batman? |
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00:20.12 | themill | peterS: but if you check it and it's not 1, then what? |
00:20.13 | peterS | koollman: is there a simple test in bash to tell me that? |
00:20.50 | peterS | themill: I want my subprocess to die when it finds out it has been abandoned. Whether this happens immediately is of lesser concern than that it happens eventually |
00:20.50 | zykotick9 | peterS: "whoami" ;) |
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00:21.40 | peterS | themill: you'd think SIGINT or SIGHUP would be transmitted through to the subprocess, and maybe sometimes it is, but it seems like something I can't rely on |
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00:22.28 | koollman | peterS: what will your process do differently if the parent isn't there anymore ? |
00:22.33 | peterS | zykotick9: if becoming an orphan would also reliably make me Batman, then great, that solves my problem. But.... |
00:22.35 | themill | peterS: what makes the parent die? |
00:22.39 | peterS | koollman: it will die |
00:22.50 | peterS | themill: ctrl-c, screen window close, etc. |
00:23.05 | themill | peterS: so does the parent need to trap those signals and explicitly pass them to kids? |
00:23.12 | koollman | peterS: why doesn't it die currently ? :) |
00:23.32 | peterS | koollman: valid question. but it seems it doesn't, at least not reliably |
00:23.39 | themill | peterS: something along the lines of trap 'kill -HUP 0' EXIT |
00:23.49 | themill | adding extra signals to your liking |
00:23.59 | koollman | peterS: it does. just not when doing something 'uninterruptible'. but it will die later anyway |
00:24.20 | peterS | yes, I know it is supposed to |
00:24.26 | peterS | this puts me in a hard place between theory and practice |
00:24.54 | koollman | what is it doing when it isn't dead ? what does strace -p yourprocessid report ? |
00:25.11 | peterS | it's doing what it always does. sleeps in a loop, then runs some ssh stuff, then sleeps some more |
00:25.22 | peterS | it is a rather lazy subprocess, you could say |
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00:26.37 | peterS | anyway if the shell doesn't provide any actual way to get your ppid, I suppose I'll do something hacky with 'ps' or maybe /proc/self |
00:27.01 | themill | or fix the parent |
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00:27.17 | peterS | (I note bash doesn't bother to keep $$ up to date either. maybe having $$ invariant is mandated by posix or something, I dunno.) |
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00:27.28 | koollman | peterS: Can you reproduce a situation where it doesn't die once the parent process died ? |
00:28.10 | peterS | probably |
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00:30.19 | koollman | peterS: $PPID exists in bash. But I don't think it's a good idea or a useful check |
00:30.40 | peterS | koollman: wtf man. I guess you missed the half of the conversation where I explained that $PPID is not useful? |
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00:32.48 | koollman | peterS: maybe. But you cannot test wether it's useful or not since you will have a hard time making a child process that doesn't die when the parent process die (without explicitely making it a daemon) |
00:33.07 | peterS | koollman: just for you: http://paste.debian.net/66916/ |
00:34.15 | peterS | (I note the #!/bin/bash is not really necessary, /bin/sh will do just as well) |
00:34.45 | Bronze | Just apt-cache searched for libdvdcss.so.2, not found. How do I install that library? |
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00:35.28 | MaxHayman | Hey I'm writing a shell script. I was wondering if anyone knew where to get some dummy maillog files to test my script it working! |
00:35.29 | zykotick9 | Bronze: you might want to check deb-multimedia |
00:35.30 | Sakara | Bronze: apt-file is a program that will index files in packages. |
00:35.42 | Sakara | Bronze: Once setup you can search for a sepecific library name |
00:35.55 | zykotick9 | MaxHayman: keep ubuntu issues in #ubuntu please |
00:36.00 | Bronze | zykotick9: where is deb-multimedia? is that a web site? |
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00:36.40 | MaxHayman | its not a ubuntu isue :S |
00:36.48 | zykotick9 | Bronze: yes... fyi deb-multimedia repos might not be a good idea! see if you can just download teh appropriate deb file(s). sorry i don't use dvd anymore. |
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00:37.31 | zykotick9 | MaxHayman: you just asked in #ubuntu at 19:29 but really it's debian? where you asked at 19:35? |
00:37.41 | Bronze | zykotick9: i think I understand that. i did a network install so I'm not using DVD's either. |
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00:38.01 | Bronze | Sakara: no apt-file on my system, installing now |
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00:38.16 | peterS | zykotick9: maybe in defiance of all precedent, he figures you can get better quality debian help in #ubuntu (: |
00:38.32 | zykotick9 | peterS: ya... right ;) |
00:38.35 | MaxHayman | I asked in both. It's not a ubuntu specific question. |
00:38.59 | rjsalts | Bronze: the instructions for libdvdcss are in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/README.css |
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00:39.05 | peterS | MaxHayman: what is a "maillog file" in your opinion? I mean what are you really after? I ask because various mail handling software can produce log files but there isn't just one common format for them |
00:39.24 | andiolsi | http://debian-mirrors.sdinet.de/debian-multimedia/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/ |
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00:39.31 | zykotick9 | Bronze: IGNORE my suggestion! see rjsalts above! |
00:39.44 | Bronze | rjsalts: gracias |
00:39.56 | Bronze | zykotick9: and thank you, regardless. :) |
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00:41.56 | MaxHayman | a /var/log/maillog |
00:42.26 | peterS | that doesn't tell me much as my system has no such file. Maybe because I'm using Debian. (: |
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00:43.35 | MaxHayman | a /var/log/mail.log |
00:44.02 | MaxHayman | but its cool |
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00:44.17 | peterS | that doesn't tell me much either. while I do have that file, the same file is used by multiple software packages and I don't know which one you're using in Ubuntu |
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00:45.50 | zxq9 | Is Wheezy not using systemd? Or is systemctl a different command? I'm just trying to figure out how to list services. |
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00:50.08 | zykotick9 | zxq9: no, wheezy is NOT using systemd. personally, i use rcconf to list/config my services YMMV |
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01:07.50 | DoverMo | apt-get moo |
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01:09.05 | grimeton | cDc |
01:09.17 | zykotick9 | DoverMo: "aptitude moo" is SO much better :p |
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01:10.18 | grimeton | zykotick9: use -v more often |
01:10.33 | zykotick9 | grimeton: that's the joke ;) |
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01:11.30 | koollman | peterS: http://paste.debian.net/66922/ (rather ugly, but it works) |
01:12.44 | peterS | koollman: oh hey, there's a $BASHPID separate from $$ and it is actually kept up to date? good to know |
01:12.58 | mikeg | After last dist-upgrade on testing, I've got a new gdm graphical login that accepts login credentials but doesn't start a window manager. Is this a known issue? |
01:13.15 | koollman | peterS: I learned that while writing the example, yes. $$ is tricky :) |
01:13.56 | peterS | yeah $$ is as useless as $PPID in this regard: not updated for subshells. too bad about lack of $BASHPPID (: |
01:14.31 | Bronze | koollman: I always used $$ for naming temp files and such. What is it dangerous to use for? |
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01:14.40 | koollman | Bronze: subshells |
01:15.06 | Bronze | ah, cause your parent proc wont know what the value was... |
01:15.10 | peterS | Bronze: it's dangerous for naming temp files, for one. if your temp file has a name that can easily be predicted by an attacker, the attacker will create a symlink to some other file that you have write access to but he doesn't |
01:15.39 | koollman | Bronze: temp files are made nicely with mktemp |
01:15.59 | Bronze | peterS: yes,easily globbed, but that would aqlso apply to BASHPID, yes? |
01:16.29 | peterS | Bronze: correct. I wouldn't use $BASHPID for temp files either. |
01:17.10 | Bronze | koollman: yes, but I'm an old leopard. .. :-0 i do use mktemp once in a while, but I;m so used to whipping out a $$ I often don't think first. |
01:17.12 | peterS | ...well I might, but not for any software I expected to release upon the wide world. I'll do it in my own scripts on my own system where I can assume the reward/risk of the simpler solution is worth it. |
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01:17.41 | koollman | peterS: anyway, thanks to you I learned a few things in bash today. now I can sleep :) |
01:17.44 | peterS | though as koollman notes, mktemp (or indeed tempfile on debian systems) is so easy to use there's not really much excuse to build your own temp file |
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01:18.13 | Bronze | Ja, just a habit, which I admit, is not much ofan excuse. :-) |
01:18.17 | uberdub | what channel is for jessie? |
01:18.37 | Bronze | uberdub: 867-5309 |
01:18.38 | zykotick9 | uberdub: #debian-next on OFTC network |
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01:18.43 | uberdub | last update screwed everything up |
01:18.52 | uberdub | oftc? |
01:18.59 | uberdub | nothing on freenode? |
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01:19.04 | zykotick9 | !tell uberdub about oftc |
01:19.09 | peterS | koollman: awk '/PPid:/{print $2}' /proc/self/status might be easier than the ps thing you have |
01:19.40 | uberdub | ? |
01:19.44 | DoverMo | zykotick9, i have no easter eggs ;-; |
01:19.55 | uberdub | why the hell did I get some pop up about dpkg? |
01:20.06 | zykotick9 | DoverMo: add a -v then -vv then -vvv etc. |
01:20.18 | Bronze | !tell bronze about oftc |
01:21.03 | ChibaPet | Bronze: You can /msg dpkg tell me about oftc |
01:21.05 | zykotick9 | !tell Bronze about self tell |
01:21.18 | Bronze | uberdub: dpkg is the name of the bot sending you the message. the message itself is telling you about the oftc IRC network |
01:21.39 | DoverMo | zykotick9, an elephant being eaten by a snake ;A; |
01:21.55 | uberdub | throwing pop ups on my screen is pretty intrusive |
01:21.58 | Bronze | I don't have any tells.... :-) (wait .. I lost $200 last time i played poker.... ) |
01:22.09 | uberdub | really cant just tell someone? |
01:22.14 | uberdub | is it really that hard? |
01:22.16 | themill | uberdub: you've got your answer |
01:22.18 | uberdub | ffs |
01:22.40 | uberdub | no I dont |
01:22.43 | Bronze | uberdub: That mechanism was devised (i assume) to keep repetitive info out of the channel. |
01:22.56 | uberdub | well its lame, and intrusive |
01:23.00 | zykotick9 | Bronze: bingo! |
01:23.13 | uberdub | I dont accept pop ups |
01:23.15 | uberdub | sorry |
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01:23.42 | themill | Welcome to irc. |
01:23.47 | DoverMo | uberdub, wget doesn't have any popups |
01:23.57 | uberdub | if telling people basic info is so much skin off your back, then dont hang out in a support channel |
01:24.00 | koollman | peterS: /proc/self is tricky too ;) |
01:24.01 | peterS | popups? if your IRC app is trying to generate popups I'd say you have bigger problems |
01:24.04 | Bronze | uberdub: my irc client puts them in another channel window, so they are not intrusive. (Xchat) |
01:24.23 | Bronze | uberdub: but that is configurable on some IRC programs |
01:24.23 | koollman | peterS: this would be the ppid of the awk process. which is not what you want |
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01:24.41 | themill | uberdub: sure, we like typing the same repeatedly and it has never occurred to us to automate the process. |
01:24.57 | themill | Perhaps you should concentrate on actually getting your problem solved... |
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01:25.06 | Bronze | uberdub: fyi irc.oftc.net is the server address |
01:25.08 | peterS | koollman: good point, this is where you want a shell redirect so awk isn't the one opening the file |
01:25.20 | uberdub | perhaps you should actually do something, or move on. |
01:25.20 | Lorcatar | Hello, which is more unstable testing or unstable? |
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01:25.41 | DoverMo | Lorcatar, unstable |
01:25.52 | Lorcatar | Thanks DoverMo *bows* |
01:25.56 | themill | Lorcatar: unstable doesn't even necessarily have a consistent set of packages that can be installed |
01:25.58 | koollman | peterS: which is ... hard to do (or I think it is), when you want the output in a shell variable or at least in an expression |
01:26.01 | zykotick9 | Lorcatar: personally, i'd say they're both about the same (compared to "stable") but others would disagree. |
01:26.14 | Bronze | I was gonna guess testing. |
01:26.20 | DoverMo | Lorcatar, more unstable yet, experimental |
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01:26.42 | Lorcatar | Hmm okay thanks ;) |
01:26.49 | peterS | koollman: wow, yeah, awk '/PPid:/{print $2}' < /proc/self/status, with the < redirect, fails too. I guess bash opens the input file after it forks. |
01:27.11 | DoverMo | debian, official sponsor of grape-nuts |
01:27.26 | koollman | peterS: yes. subshell content isn't evaluated by the parent. it's forked first |
01:27.42 | peterS | koollman: here we go. exec 99</proc/self/status; awk '/PPid:/{print $2}' <&99 |
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01:27.58 | peterS | the exec happens in the main shell, so it actually gets the right answer |
01:28.02 | koollman | peterS: and now ... I think the ps solution is slightly more readable ;) |
01:28.12 | koollman | but yes, it can be done |
01:28.12 | peterS | quite (: |
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01:29.56 | peterS | koollman: ...or if you want to count fields, there's the stat file instead of status: exec 99</proc/self/stat; ppid=$(cut -f4 -d\ <&99) |
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01:31.10 | koollman | peterS: as long as your put at the end of the line : # deep magic, guess what it means ;) |
01:31.16 | peterS | ha |
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01:31.51 | peterS | # don't "optimize" this as /proc/self will eat you for lunch |
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01:31.59 | koollman | :) |
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01:39.22 | neverwearcondoms | why do nerds have such ugly girlfriends? |
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01:41.05 | well_laid_lawn | why do people think expressing their opinion is appropriate? |
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01:44.46 | Bronze | well_laid_lawn: well, i Think that its because.... |
01:44.59 | well_laid_lawn | heh |
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02:08.09 | nell | hey |
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02:08.30 | nell | I mounted my FS using sshfs and I can't browse the directory without being root |
02:08.37 | nell | i tried to chmod -R the directory |
02:08.41 | nell | but i get permission denied |
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02:11.39 | nell | how do I modify the directory permissions to allow a user to browse the sshfs mounted drive |
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02:14.14 | occupant | chmod a+r |
02:14.56 | nell | changing permissions of /mnt/dir permission denied |
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02:15.23 | occupant | as root? |
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02:16.10 | nell | Yeah |
02:16.14 | occupant | show us the permissions on it |
02:16.45 | xxxwpn | is there a way to test yuor debian knowledge |
02:16.51 | nell | drwxr-xr-x |
02:16.57 | xxxwpn | is there a way to test how well you know how to use debian? |
02:17.29 | nell | you can contribute code or obtain a linux+ certification |
02:17.30 | occupant | do a "chown root" on your mountpoint |
02:17.39 | zykotick9 | xxxwpn: sure, hang out in #debian for a while - and realize, you don't know shit ;) that's what i do. |
02:17.45 | nell | permission denied occupant |
02:17.53 | xxxwpn | ok i will do that |
02:18.01 | xxxwpn | everytime someone talks abouts omething, ill approach it as a problem to solve. |
02:18.10 | xxxwpn | and if i dont get it, i will say i don't get it. |
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02:30.10 | zykotick9 | xxxwpn: fyi, for an even more hardcore #debian try OFTC "/msg dpkg oftc" for details. |
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02:31.46 | xxxwpn | zykotick9: ill do that right away, is that really tough stuff to digest |
02:32.55 | zykotick9 | xxxwpn: oftc is the "real" #debian channel - more devs hangout there |
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02:33.21 | zykotick9 | xxxwpn: but typically, less people/users |
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02:34.35 | DoverMo | hurhur |
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02:47.30 | rryoumaa` | in what way is oftc different from this channel? |
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02:51.15 | LtL | rryoumaa`: OFTC has the distinction of being the official #debian channel, aside from that very little afaik. |
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02:54.39 | dvs | We're just a ragtag bunch of merry people |
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02:55.11 | LtL | zykotick9: i didn't see your answer, sorry :) |
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02:55.25 | LtL | dvs: +1 |
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03:08.05 | zykotick9 | LtL: sorry, what answer? |
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03:08.53 | zykotick9 | LtL: sorry, i see now. |
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03:20.58 | nanicoar | Hello. In what channel should I ask for help regarding using Makefiles? |
03:21.41 | themill | nanicoar: #workingset is a good channel |
03:22.03 | themill | err... ##workingset |
03:22.09 | nanicoar | Thank you. =) |
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03:24.48 | nanicoar | I'ma idle over there now. cya |
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03:25.15 | iateadonut | if you've got a web/mysql server, and if the network is down you want it to switch to another network, i guess my first question is what room is it appropriate to ask this in? |
03:25.16 | iateadonut | this one? |
03:25.47 | hplc | maybe #networking |
03:26.49 | hplc | fallback and failover have existed for some time, if thats what you mean |
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03:46.30 | Megaf | folks, hows debian proposed updates differs from updates? |
03:46.34 | Megaf | Hi all |
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03:55.03 | leahcim | Question: If multiarch is supposed to allow (for example) i386 and amd64 binaries to coexist, why do the i386 and amd64 of the various build tools (gcc, binutils, cpp, etc) conflict with each other? |
03:56.29 | leahcim | is discovering that building package for i386 on amd64 with 'debuild -ai386' is difficult when a compiler is involved. |
03:57.15 | Megaf | will never ever buy and asus usb wifi dongle |
03:57.31 | Megaf | I got a USB-N10 fro ASUS, absolutely rubbish |
03:57.53 | Megaf | I'm getting 4 KB/s now |
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04:02.21 | xxxwpn | when i try to open a pdf file, it opens with a gnu image manipulation software |
04:02.28 | xxxwpn | is that normal |
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04:12.55 | rudi_s | leahcim: Multiarch is wronly named in its current form in Debian, it should be called multilib. |
04:13.04 | rudi_s | Only libraries from different archs are supported, not binaries. |
04:13.09 | rudi_s | *wrongly |
04:13.26 | rudi_s | xxxwpn: Depends on your DE and how you've configured it. |
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04:13.43 | rudi_s | Most DE let you change file extension <-> program associations. |
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04:38.13 | NetEcho | Is it possible to have a script run at the end of boot-up right before the login prompt? specifically a beep script to signal that booting is done? |
04:38.29 | NotJimCarrey | i have a Gabotronics Xminilab that I'm trying to get to work in debian. It's shows up in lsusb as "16d0:06f9 MCS" but doesn't create a /dev device file as far as I can tell |
04:39.02 | NotJimCarrey | I have all the protocol specs, but have no idea where to start |
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04:52.04 | NotJimCarrey | ok, it does create these 3 files in /dev |
04:52.11 | NotJimCarrey | `/dev/bus/usb/004/014|/dev/char/189:402|/dev/vboxusb/004/031 |
04:52.14 | bullgard6 | !sound |
04:52.14 | dpkg | Ask me about <alsa>, <alsa checklist>. See also <default alsa>, <pulseaudio>. |
04:52.57 | NotJimCarrey | NetEcho: try the beep command |
04:53.40 | orzo_ | is it possible to obtain mailing list archives in mbox format or some other format more suitable for bulk download than the MHonArc html spoo ? |
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04:59.07 | rudi_s | NetEcho: Sure. Adding the call to /etc/rc.local should work. |
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05:48.54 | hurdorbsd | hi |
05:50.22 | rryoumaa | what does this mean? i am not running raid. "Buffer I/O error on device dm-3, logical block 9" |
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05:50.53 | rryoumaa | it does logical blocks 0 through 9 |
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05:57.04 | rryoumaa | how do i find out what "device dm-3" means? |
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06:11.35 | well_laid_lawn | in what context ? |
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06:17.02 | jrpalmer | I installed a package from testing with dpkg without adding the testing repo. It overwrote the default package that came with stable and now I can't execute the program. How do I revert backwrds? |
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06:21.04 | hurdorbsd | my fglrx driver shows only standard experience .. I want 3D what to do? |
06:21.30 | peterrooney | jrpalmer: most likely start with dpkg -P ; ALSO: please, /msg dpkg frankendebian |
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06:22.29 | [nazir] | jrpalmer: maybe something like "apt-get --reinstall install PACKAGENAME"? |
06:22.41 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: you show us your Xorg log |
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06:25.32 | jrpalmer | peterrooney: Sorry. |
06:25.38 | jrpalmer | [nazir]: I fixed it another way. Thank you though. |
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06:31.48 | rryoumaa | NOTE TO SELF: do NOT do this when you are trying to figure out what dm-3 means: "grep dm-3 /proc/*" |
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06:34.29 | peterS | rryoumaa: yeah, grepping /proc/kcore is usually not all that productive |
06:34.42 | NotJimCarrey | anyone know how to make a wacom tablet only bind to screen0? currently, only have the tablet works on the main screen |
06:35.16 | rryoumaa | peterS: it hung the system and put a blinking underscore in the corner (which imo is not very productive) |
06:35.48 | mumpitze1 | rryoumaa: you use lvm. it's one of them |
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06:35.51 | peterS | rryoumaa: I guess you want 'dmsetup show dm-3' or similar |
06:35.57 | rryoumaa | mumpitze1: i do not use lvm |
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06:36.11 | rryoumaa | i do use cryptdisks, so i am guessing it is one of them |
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06:36.57 | peterS | 'dmsetup info dm-3' I guess I meant |
06:37.37 | hurdorbsd | mumpitze1 how to do it ?? Xorg log |
06:37.39 | rryoumaa | peterS: thanks, says not exist, now that i have rebooted |
06:38.15 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
06:38.25 | peterS | rryoumaa: 'ls /dev/mapper' will show what dm objects, if any, exist. 'dmsetup ls' seems to be more or less equivalent. |
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06:39.50 | hurdorbsd | its says pastebin not found |
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06:41.09 | hurdorbsd | mumpitze1 |
06:41.27 | NotJimCarrey | hurdorbsd: pastebin.com |
06:41.42 | mumpitze1 | !tell hurdorbsd about nopaste |
06:41.45 | NotJimCarrey | copy the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to it |
06:42.26 | mumpitze1 | !tell NotJimCarrey about pastebin.com |
06:42.42 | hurdorbsd | ok wait |
06:42.51 | NotJimCarrey | mumpitze1: i already know about pastebinm and pastebinit |
06:42.53 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
06:43.03 | NotJimCarrey | just always forget the bang commands |
06:43.07 | mumpitze1 | you apparently don't know why pastebin.com is bad |
06:43.17 | rryoumaa | is "ACPI Warning: Incorrect checksum in table [TCPA] - 0x00, should be 0x87 (20110623/tbutils-314)" anything to bother trying to fix? |
06:43.52 | rryoumaa | peterS: yeah i finally discovered that ls -l there will show the devices |
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06:44.42 | mumpitze1 | rryoumaa: not something you can really fix. maybe look for an updated BIOS. it might fix it |
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06:45.06 | peterS | anyway, random ACPI errors reported by the kernel, I've always just ignored. I have no idea if those things ever actually matter. |
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06:45.32 | mumpitze1 | they can, especially in laptops |
06:45.35 | Konomi | is it possible to have a swap file too large? |
06:45.56 | Konomi | swapper/6: page allocation failure: order:2, mode:0x20 <- resultinbg in this perhaps |
06:45.57 | mumpitze1 | no. it only wastes diskspace at most |
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06:46.03 | rryoumaa | peterS: mumpitze1 thanks, i will duly ignore, unless there is a reason to risk a bios upgrade |
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06:46.28 | rryoumaa | this is a desktop |
06:46.42 | rryoumaa | mumpitze1: what problems does it cause?" |
06:47.22 | mumpitze1 | things like using more power than it should, suspend problems. all that acpi controls |
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06:47.35 | rryoumaa | ok, thanks |
06:48.04 | mumpitze1 | acpi is a "standard" that was made explictly for windows and to run only there. and OEMs test only on windows and if it "works" there they ship. linux often has a hard time with it |
06:48.22 | rryoumaa | sounds like i can maybe ignore it |
06:48.36 | mumpitze1 | on a desktop always imho |
06:48.48 | rryoumaa | great |
06:48.55 | peterS | yeah and as he said there's nothing much you could do about it in any case, other than try to flash a newer bios |
06:49.39 | peterS | and the risk/reward ratio on bios flashing almost never paints a very compelling picture |
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06:50.11 | mumpitze1 | peterS: there are people thei acpi tables: e.g. https://01.org/linux-acpi/documentation/overriding-dsdt |
06:50.15 | peterS | "there's a small chance of bricking your whole motherboard, but if it succeeds! Then ... you get a system pretty much indistinguishable from what you have now!" |
06:50.18 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
06:50.32 | hurdorbsd | I can't do it |
06:50.39 | mumpitze1 | peterS: not as bleak as you paint it. you might get a properly working hardware for a change :) |
06:50.50 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: why not? |
06:50.51 | hurdorbsd | Is there any other way to make a copy of it ? |
06:51.04 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: dpkg messaged you a factoid. follow it |
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06:51.27 | hurdos1 | Hi |
06:51.30 | ShapeShifter499 | does anyone know how I get wifi working in initramfs? I need it working at that point so I may decrypt my server remotely via ssh when I need to reboot the system and I'm not near it to enter my passphrase |
06:51.34 | hurdorbsd | it wants me to download 18 MB of data |
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06:52.16 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: then use a webbrowser and go to paste.debian.net to paste the file |
06:53.00 | hurdorbsd | ok |
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06:53.50 | jephb | hi guys,i am new in debian,i have been using ubuntu and when i installed debian in one computer it started with unity as default desktop,when i installed it in my laptop, it started with gnome classic,can anyone tell how to install unity in debian so that i can installe in my laptop? |
06:54.00 | hurdorbsd | I added SID as a repo so it is updating other stuff .. I need to remove it first |
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06:54.31 | hurdos | Does nginx have downtime during upgrade on a new version via packages? |
06:54.39 | mumpitze1 | jephb: what videocard is in your notebook? please pastebin your Xorg.0.log |
06:55.01 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: adding sid was a bad idea |
06:55.07 | hurdorbsd | ya |
06:55.10 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: remove it and all the packages you installed from sid |
06:55.20 | hurdorbsd | It messed up my system I guess |
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06:55.41 | hurdorbsd | actually I wanted other DEs for testing the best for me .. n had to install it for one of DE |
06:57.21 | jephb | mumpitze1:do you want me to paste the entire content of Xorg.0.log? |
06:57.28 | hurdorbsd | mumpitze1 I think Gnome3 without 3d graphics (working) make your system slow or something .. I could do more things in Windows with same system .. |
06:57.32 | mumpitze1 | !tell jephb about paste |
06:58.32 | NetEcho | improper Xorg configs will do that |
06:58.39 | hurdorbsd | ya |
06:59.03 | NetEcho | what graphics card? sorry I missed part of this |
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06:59.25 | hurdorbsd | AMD C-60 APU |
06:59.36 | NetEcho | ah |
06:59.53 | ShapeShifter499 | hmm weird, typing certain characters (asd etc...) are yielding weird outputs over ssh |
07:00.18 | hurdorbsd | omg SID is removing everything |
07:00.40 | ShapeShifter499 | typing "exit" over my ssh connection becomes the following "lance@AcerOne-debian:~$ exᐃ |
07:00.41 | ShapeShifter499 | " |
07:00.55 | NetEcho | probably a good idea to start from scratch at this point hurdorbsd |
07:00.59 | ShapeShifter499 | any ideas guys? |
07:01.22 | ShapeShifter499 | hmm |
07:01.36 | NetEcho | ShapeShifter499 probably the client character set |
07:01.43 | ShapeShifter499 | closing the terminal window and starting over with a fresh ssh fixed it |
07:01.53 | ShapeShifter499 | *ssh connection |
07:01.55 | NetEcho | yep the client changed charsets on you |
07:02.04 | ShapeShifter499 | NetEcho, this is my own machine! |
07:02.11 | ShapeShifter499 | has it been hacked? |
07:02.13 | NetEcho | the ssh client |
07:02.15 | NetEcho | it happens |
07:02.21 | ShapeShifter499 | hmm |
07:02.24 | ShapeShifter499 | NetEcho, but why? |
07:02.25 | NetEcho | windows ssh client? |
07:02.32 | ShapeShifter499 | two debian systems |
07:02.35 | NetEcho | ah |
07:02.39 | NetEcho | random fluke probably |
07:02.50 | hurdorbsd | SID is removing everything |
07:02.50 | NetEcho | I get similar issues at work |
07:02.54 | hurdorbsd | even the kernel |
07:03.11 | ShapeShifter499 | =S |
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07:03.16 | ManOfStll | Anyone play Black ops? |
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07:03.30 | NetEcho | Off to bed now |
07:03.33 | ShapeShifter499 | NetEcho, gave me a little panic |
07:03.35 | ShapeShifter499 | xD |
07:03.52 | mumpitze1 | hurdorbsd: you can only "downgrade" or removing sid packages via dpkg |
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07:04.55 | hurdorbsd | I jus did what dpkg said .. n I forgot that I still have SID repo in sources n now it is doing whatnot |
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07:06.52 | grimeton | that bitch |
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07:07.47 | hurdorbsd | nopaste is still not working |
07:07.49 | hurdorbsd | wow |
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07:09.41 | mumpitze1 | does a browser work? just use one |
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07:10.01 | jephb | i can view the content of Xorg.0.log but it is very big |
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07:10.14 | grimeton | $someoutput | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
07:10.18 | jephb | can i paste the entire content |
07:10.19 | jephb | ? |
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07:11.30 | mumpitze1 | jephb: read the factoid dpkg messaged you |
07:11.43 | jephb | thankx i read it |
07:12.08 | mumpitze1 | then this should have answered the question you just asked. |
07:12.25 | mumpitze1 | and yes you can and must paste it all, just not in this channel |
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07:14.17 | pupil | hello, good afternoon |
07:15.05 | jephb | this is the link where my Xorg.0.log is : http://wikisend.com/download/427632/Xorg.0.log |
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07:15.38 | mumpitze1 | jephb: and you couldn't use a pastebin? |
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07:18.07 | pupil | is there any equalizer software in debian?? |
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07:19.48 | jephb | pastebin link :http://pastebin.com/MbCXmvWJ |
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07:20.40 | mumpitze1 | jephb: which videocard is it? |
07:21.33 | monas | morning, themill, I managed to start notes in schroot, but when I want to open an attachment I can't do that automatically. Where is that discussion about :all satisfying dependences going on? I want to voice my +1 (or whatever I have :) |
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07:23.56 | jephb | videocardinfos : http://pastebin.com/d7RzyDp2 |
07:25.20 | mumpitze1 | jephb: install the non-free firmware for your card |
07:26.22 | jephb | non-free firmware means i need to buy it? |
07:26.51 | mumpitze1 | no |
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07:27.31 | mumpitze1 | !tell jephb about firmware |
07:27.56 | mumpitze1 | you need to add non-free sources to your sources.list and then install it with apt-get. after a reboot your kernel should load it and X should work |
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07:39.23 | jephb | thnx for the help,i read about firmware but i still don't understand how install them?sorry to ask many question |
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07:40.37 | mumpitze1 | !non-free |
07:40.38 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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07:41.03 | mumpitze1 | !tell jephb about non-free sources |
07:41.23 | mumpitze1 | and then you will need the package firmware-linux-nonfree |
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07:46.58 | woshty | Is there an useful alternative to parted? Something able to handle gpt. |
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07:48.09 | mumpitze1 | gparted? |
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07:49.33 | woshty | mumpitze1: Isn't that using the same backend libs? |
07:49.46 | dast1986 | wosthy: ldd gparted |
07:51.07 | mumpitze1 | woshty: are you saying gparted can't handle gtp? |
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07:54.05 | woshty | mumpitze1: It can, but it then will have the same strange restrictions parted has, like not being able to have gaps between primary partitions .. |
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08:07.24 | dast1986 | I have a job interview this afternoon. Been a while since I wore a tie :-P Still getting used to it |
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08:09.10 | lonmarlon | hello |
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08:15.51 | luichi | hello how can i see web browsers ordered by size using aptitude command? |
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08:17.33 | ShapeShifter499 | how bad is it if I unziped my "initrd.img" file to my root? |
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08:21.55 | luichi | how can i see web browsers sorted by size using aptitude command? |
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08:28.00 | musca | luichi: aptitude search '~Pwww-browser' -F '%I %p' --sort 'Installsize' |
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08:31.02 | luichi | musca: thanks |
08:31.04 | musca | luichi: i was surprised to see an Installsize of 180 MB for google-chrome |
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08:31.53 | grimeton | surprise surprise |
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08:33.11 | Randolph_Carter | I can't figure out how to add serbian language support on Debian Squeeze. Is there anybody here who knows how to go about doing this? I just want to be able to change the keyboard layout. |
08:33.28 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
08:33.36 | grimeton | that should give you serbian error messages |
08:34.14 | grimeton | and the keyboard can be reconfigured by dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
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08:34.40 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: for stuff like firefox you have to install additional packages containing the locales for your language |
08:34.57 | ChrisH | musca: me too... but did you check the dependencies and their size |
08:35.17 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: apt-cache search iceweasel | grep l10n |
08:35.31 | Randolph_Carter | searching... |
08:36.20 | Randolph_Carter | "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable" |
08:36.32 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: running dpkg in another terminal? not root? |
08:36.44 | Randolph_Carter | ohh... sorry. I'm new to this |
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08:37.34 | musca | ChrisH: right, google's package contains all in one package. One needs to sum up all dependencies to see clear. |
08:37.37 | Randolph_Carter | same message still as root |
08:37.51 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: then you're running dpkg in another window |
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08:38.18 | grimeton | or it has been locked and the system crashed |
08:38.23 | Randolph_Carter | Is there a way to terminate it? I've only got the one terminal opened.. |
08:38.35 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: check for it: ps auxw | grep -i dpkg |
08:39.11 | Randolph_Carter | Should I post the result? |
08:39.20 | Randolph_Carter | I don't know what I'm looking for |
08:39.40 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: pastebin the result of this command: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat |
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08:40.59 | Randolph_Carter | http://pastebin.com/nUM6q7q7 |
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08:41.23 | Randolph_Carter | ahh, sorry |
08:41.25 | Randolph_Carter | hold on |
08:41.53 | Randolph_Carter | http://pastebin.com/PwcRADEP |
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08:42.14 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: you're running dpkg-reconfigure as i told you and you are also trying to install something -> won't work |
08:42.47 | Randolph_Carter | Is there a way to close dpkg-reconfigure though? |
08:43.42 | grimeton | kill the process |
08:43.47 | grimeton | the pid is 3330 |
08:43.48 | grimeton | kill 3330 |
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08:45.35 | Randolph_Carter | for the keyboard-config command, I am presented with a list of keyboard model, but none of them indicate that they are Serbian |
08:45.51 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: select a model and then you get presented with the language |
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08:46.05 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: when giving you tips we're not trying to fool you |
08:48.16 | Randolph_Carter | By default the combination Control+Alt+Backspace does nothing. If you want it can be used │ |
08:48.16 | Randolph_Carter | <PROTECTED> |
08:48.22 | Randolph_Carter | Is this something that I'd want? |
08:48.27 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: no |
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08:50.07 | Randolph_Carter | Alright, I just checked the keyboard preferences window, under system pref., and there is still no option to add a language. Should I need to update the system or reboot or something? |
08:50.23 | grimeton | Randolph_Carter: did you run the command till the end? |
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08:50.49 | Randolph_Carter | I believe so. It was in the little GUI-type terminal window, right? |
08:50.57 | grimeton | yes |
08:51.09 | grimeton | the command should issue a loadkeys command that loads the right language |
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08:51.22 | grimeton | it should be effective immediatly |
08:51.29 | Randolph_Carter | Selecting "no" was the last step to the command, I think. After selecting it, a was taken back to the terminal to enter whetever other command |
08:51.47 | Randolph_Carter | hmm. I saw no loadkey command |
08:51.59 | grimeton | no, that's what happens in the background |
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08:52.06 | Randolph_Carter | ah |
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08:53.12 | grimeton | ok, gotta work, l8r |
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08:53.43 | Randolph_Carter | Alright, thanks |
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09:06.53 | Jckf | I just noticed this in one of my servers' dmesg output. Could someone tell me what's going on? http://pastie.org/pastes/8497639/text |
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09:08.08 | paul_ | hi |
09:08.18 | paul_ | how can i install icinga-web _without_ apache2? |
09:08.37 | paul_ | i've tried apt-get install icinga-web --no-install-recommends |
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09:08.49 | ChrisH | Jckf: there are some lines missing abot the cut here which might be important... this can be anything from harmless to failing HW |
09:08.54 | paul_ | but it still wants to install apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-commo |
09:09.04 | Jckf | ChrisH: I just found this https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/net/ipv4/tcp_input.c?id=031afe4990a7c9dbff41a3a742c44d3e740ea0a1 |
09:09.21 | Jckf | ChrisH: There is nothing related above the cut lines in dmesg, as the timestamp are then several hours apart |
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09:12.12 | paul_ | aww got it |
09:12.19 | paul_ | need to install php5-fpm first |
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09:26.29 | Nebukadneza | heho |
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09:27.58 | Nebukadneza | in the full-upgrade from testing (~3 months old) to current testing i have a bad bad problem with samba not beeing installable due to ... well, i don't quite understand yet why ;(. would anyone happen to have a pointer for me on what i could try to do to resolve this: http://nopaste.ghostdub.de/?883 ...? |
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09:33.54 | Lakii | ;] |
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09:34.55 | fishcooker | i have 1GB memory ... this is my #free -m result here http://paste.debian.net/66951/ ... is my all memory are almost used ? |
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09:35.45 | Nebukadneza | well, ~400mb is used in buffers |
09:36.14 | Nebukadneza | that means that the linux kernel thinks that files you recently opened are likely to be used again, and it keeps it in its spare, free ram until something else really needs that ram |
09:36.31 | Nebukadneza | so the free ram isn't wasted, but can contribute |
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09:38.19 | abcd593 | Hi, how can I configure squid so that it: 1) will work only with FTP and block all other protocols 2) download only .gpg files that can be verified with certain key and block all the rest 3) if user chooses to upload a file - it will upload it signed version? Is it possible at all? Thank you in advance. |
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09:40.38 | jelly | abcd593: that sounds rather specific, try using "/msg alis list *squid* " to find a channel for squid itself |
09:40.50 | Nebukadneza | oh |
09:40.57 | Nebukadneza | i simply have to install lsb-base manually oO |
09:42.54 | jelly | fishcooker: line 4 is what's relevant |
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09:44.07 | h0nk | morning, when I try to display Changelogs in aptitude ('C') for security updates I most often get 404's. Is that expected? |
09:44.22 | grimeton | omg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8gmARGvPlI |
09:45.13 | h0nk | grimeton: http://i.imgur.com/QRQMP73.jpg, OT as well |
09:45.45 | grimeton | h0nk: we had the first snow last night |
09:47.01 | grimeton | damn, winamp will be offline starting from december 20 |
09:47.04 | fishcooker | thanks for sharing the info Nebukadneza |
09:47.25 | Nebukadneza | you have the same problem, atm? |
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10:00.33 | fishcooker | thanks jelly for pointing it out for me |
10:01.55 | jelly | http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ an attempt at explanation |
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10:05.02 | Chousuke | if you're not trying to aggressively conserve power by turning off memory modules when not needed, having free RAM is actually not a good thing :P |
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10:06.18 | bhuddah | not again that ram discussion... -.- |
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10:09.24 | Chousuke | there's not much left to discuss :P |
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10:09.56 | Nebukadneza | mhmm |
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10:10.38 | Nebukadneza | what do i do here: libpostproc52:amd64 6:0.git20120821-4 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with libpostproc52 which has multiple installed instances? ;/ |
10:10.45 | afsal | adds in youtube.com not shown in iceweasel |
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10:12.01 | afsal | not found ads in iceweasel |
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10:12.19 | afsal | whats the problem??? |
10:13.15 | zacts | afsal: you can turn off add-block if you want |
10:13.22 | zacts | but why would you want to do that? |
10:13.39 | afsal | where is that |
10:16.19 | afsal | here the error instead of ads http://paste.debian.net/66963/ |
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10:18.04 | Chousuke | Nebukadneza: looks like you need to choose whether you want the 32-bit or 62-bit version :/ |
10:18.09 | Chousuke | 64 |
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10:22.49 | h0nk | morning, when I try to display Changelogs in aptitude ('C') for security updates I most often get 404's. Is that expected? |
10:23.23 | Nebukadneza | Chousuke: ahhh, so i have to purge the :i386 version manually? |
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10:26.14 | Chousuke | I think it should conflict normally, but maybe there's some weirdness that prevents that from happening. |
10:27.01 | Nebukadneza | ah, i had both :amd64 and :i386 installed, and the new package now forbids that |
10:27.06 | Nebukadneza | it upgrades fine after purging :i386 manually |
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10:29.35 | Sendoushi | hey guys. anyone knows how to install greybird and albatros themes on debian? |
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10:33.33 | Sendoushi | my debian redraw is really slow. i move a window and... slow. i scroll... slow. ideas on how to solve this? |
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10:34.57 | Sh1G3rU | how much ram do you have? |
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10:35.42 | Sh1G3rU | because you either have 256 mb of ram total or have everything possible runung |
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10:36.04 | Sh1G3rU | install htop sudo apt-get install htop and see whats happening |
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10:38.21 | Sendoushi | Sh1G3rU, have a lot :p |
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10:38.30 | Sendoushi | i don't know how much but this computer is a beast |
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10:39.13 | Sendoushi | i guess i have to configure something or reinstall something |
10:39.23 | Sh1G3rU | Sendoushi, them something is eating all you proccessor resources |
10:39.27 | Sh1G3rU | then* |
10:39.36 | Sendoushi | so you can have an idea, i was running ubuntu with movies on the right and virtualbox fullscreen with windows and photoshop |
10:39.47 | Sendoushi | and both monitors are HD |
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10:40.58 | Sh1G3rU | does it always do that or is it just now?? |
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10:42.12 | Sendoushi | Sh1G3rU, only after format and install of debian |
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10:44.03 | brontosaurusrex | Sendoushi, graphics drivers? |
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10:44.27 | Sendoushi | brontosaurusrex, had to install them otherwise i wouldn't have two monitors working |
10:46.00 | Sh1G3rU | no clue |
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10:46.23 | Sh1G3rU | Sendoushi, can you paste a ps x in the pastebin?? |
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10:46.40 | Sendoushi | ok |
10:46.42 | Sendoushi | a sec |
10:47.07 | Sendoushi | http://pastebin.com/TjxBCv0g |
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10:50.34 | Sh1G3rU | Sendoushi, does you prob happend on every window or just google chrome?? |
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10:51.44 | Sendoushi | Sh1G3rU, every window |
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11:18.44 | ZIPY | hi, is it possible to install packages from testing / experimental etc in wheezy? |
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11:19.58 | ZIPY | with apt-get install -t testing for example |
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11:21.37 | babilen | ZIPY: It is possible, but will break your system |
11:21.48 | tty-1 | When I build latest stable for LXC, do I get the same stability as using the latest Debian package (which version is too low, I need a higher one)? |
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11:21.59 | tty-1 | (lxc userspace tools) |
11:22.45 | ZIPY | babilen: the problem is, i think for my netbook stable is the better choice but what if i need some software of testing? |
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11:24.47 | babilen | ZIPY: Check if it has been backported or backport it yourself. Read <backports> <wheezy-backports> and <ssb> (/msg dpkg ssb) -- Which package is this about? |
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11:25.35 | tty-1 | How can I get LXC >= 1.0.1 ? |
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11:25.39 | tty-1 | For debian? |
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11:26.28 | ZIPY | i dont know yet if i really need it, just want to make sure before i go for wheezy, im running jessie right now on my eee but the new gnome messed things up and its always a pain after dist-upgrade on that netbook |
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11:27.24 | iceroot | hi |
11:28.09 | iceroot | i want to use ssh foo@bar with pub-key. i dont have an interactive shell so i can not accept the "do you want to add the host fingerprint" what other ways do i have to add the fingerprint (or better how to get it?) |
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11:29.48 | grimeton | iceroot: -o "StrictHostKeyChecking no" |
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11:31.13 | iceroot | grimeton: thank you very much, worked like a charm |
11:32.10 | nosklo | ZIPY: well, some packages already have backports. Others are really easy to backport. And there are those packages that are a pain to port. |
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11:32.33 | nosklo | ZIPY: so it all depends on which software from testing you want on stable |
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11:38.02 | babilen | ZIPY: http://mozilla.debian.net should also be pointed out if you use iceweasel -- but it really depends on each package as nosklo mentioned. Some are already available, others are impossible to port. |
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11:40.11 | exarkun | How do I switch from gnome-shell to metacity? I ran "gconftool -s /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager -t string metacity" as directed on the gnome shell wiki page for reverting to metacity (but this install has always used gnome-shell) but it had no apparent effect. |
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11:40.39 | ZIPY | oh there it starts |
11:40.50 | ZIPY | is iceowl available for wheezy? :D |
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11:41.23 | babilen | exarkun: Are you sure that you are not looking for a gnome channel? Are you *sure* that what you want to do is possible? |
11:41.45 | babilen | dpkg: tell ZIPY -about iceowl |
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11:42.01 | babilen | judd: bug #706938 |
11:42.02 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/706938 in iceowl (open): «Keep iceowl out of jessie»; severity: grave; opened: 2013-05-06; last modified: 2013-05-06. |
11:42.10 | exarkun | babilen: I want to know how to configure my Debian desktop to use a different window manager. If that's a gnome question, okay. |
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11:43.20 | babilen | exarkun: Well, it is very much a gnome specific question as you want to use Gnome 3.4 with metacity rather than gnome-shell. I am not sure if that is possible (at all) -- I mean: are you looking for the fallback mode? |
11:43.32 | exarkun | The instructions I found were on this fage fwiw, https://wiki.debian.org/GnomeShell |
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11:43.59 | babilen | exarkun: Which is why I suggest to ask in a more Gnome specific channel -- it would also help if you could share the link to that wiki you referenced earlier |
11:43.59 | exarkun | babilen: I don't know what "the fallback mode" is. |
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11:44.34 | babilen | exarkun: The "fallback mode" is a gnome session for Gnome 3 that looks a bit like Gnome 2. What do you want to achieve eventually? |
11:44.42 | dracarys | ..... |
11:44.54 | dracarys | gnome's fallback mode defaults to gnome3, just a different shell |
11:45.02 | dracarys | it's been that way since at least gnome 3.1 |
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11:45.24 | dracarys | this isn't really a question that has to do with the low level debian specific parts of the distro |
11:45.50 | dracarys | it's been at least two years since metacity was used anywhere in gnome3 |
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11:46.09 | babilen | exarkun: It's the first time I see that Debian wiki entry and it hasn't been updated in a while. I am not convinced that it is (still?) possible and I would recommend to confirm that with Gnome people. |
11:46.13 | exarkun | babilen: I'm tired of how unpleasant I find gnome-shell to use and want to try something different. |
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11:46.31 | exarkun | babilen: If I understand the "fallback mode" thing correctly, I've tried that before and didn't really enjoy it either. |
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11:46.43 | exarkun | babilen: Okay. Thank you. |
11:46.48 | babilen | exarkun: metacity has been obsoleted .. my impression is that the wiki has been written back in the day when gnome-shell was *very* new and that that information does no longer apply to recent versions |
11:47.01 | dracarys | if you want the gnome2 shell within gnome3 I suggest you try Linux Mint's shell |
11:47.08 | dracarys | cinemon or something |
11:47.19 | dracarys | I'm not sure if it's even in Debian's depository though |
11:47.26 | babilen | dracarys: it is, just not in wheezy |
11:47.30 | babilen | judd: v cinnamon |
11:47.31 | judd | Package: cinnamon on i386 -- sid: 1.7.4-2.2+b1 |
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11:47.58 | dracarys | babilen: well, then he should switch to sid or get Mint, if he wants to go the *easy* route |
11:48.08 | exarkun | metacity is packaged in stable though. is that just a mistake? |
11:48.13 | babilen | exarkun: Well, there are various other desktop environments and window managers in Debian and you might want to take a look at XFCE4, KDE and LXDE or fluxbox, openbox, awesome, xmonad ... |
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11:48.29 | rjsalts | fvwm2 |
11:48.31 | exarkun | And it even runs. I tried it last night, "metacity --replace" works fine. I just don't know how to make it persistent. |
11:48.31 | dracarys | I'm pretty sure gnome2 is still in the repository |
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11:48.56 | dracarys | exarkun: as we've said, this isn't really a debian question |
11:48.59 | babilen | dracarys: Not in wheezy |
11:49.04 | exarkun | dracarys: Sure, sorry. |
11:49.07 | dracarys | gnome is it's own box of black magic |
11:49.24 | dracarys | which in turn plugs into debian's box of black magic |
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11:50.07 | exarkun | So, put another way, Debian no longer makes a choice about the window manager that's being used. |
11:50.18 | babilen | Well, everything is black magic in that case. Either way, I still think that this is better suited for a gnome specific channel rather than #debian. |
11:50.29 | exarkun | Debian gets to make the choice to use ... "gnome 3" (whatever that is) and "gnome 3" (whatever that is) makes choices about things like window managers? |
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11:50.55 | babilen | exarkun: metacity was never really a full window manager in itself. It was the window manager used by Gnome and that's it. |
11:51.21 | babilen | exarkun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity |
11:51.24 | dracarys | he's confusing the Gnome2 shell, now called Mate, with Metacity |
11:51.41 | exarkun | Okay. But would it make any difference if I asked how to switch to fvwm2 or awesome? |
11:51.42 | dracarys | he wants the gnome2 shell, which unfortunately is not available anymore unless you know exactly what you are doing |
11:51.53 | trewas | exarkun: gnome-shell is built around the window-manager (mutter) so it is impossible to change, the fallback mode uses gnome2-style metacity&gnome-panel combination (in current stable at least) |
11:52.09 | rjsalts | sugar depends on metacity |
11:52.30 | babilen | dracarys: The Gnome2 shell is not called MATE. MATE is a fork of the Gnome 2 codebase (with a lot of the warts of Gnome 2) that has been renamed with s/Gnome/MATE/ .. |
11:52.33 | exarkun | trewas: Thanks. |
11:52.35 | dracarys | exarkun: I would say RTFM on how to switch, because if you want to switch to another window environment you really should know what you are doing |
11:52.39 | dracarys | babilen: yes, that |
11:52.57 | exarkun | Thanks for the input everyone. I appreciate it. |
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11:53.09 | babilen | exarkun: You would then choose a different window manager in the login menu (look at "Sessions") |
11:53.34 | flufmnstr | my debian box just locked up. the ssh tunnle collapsed, and the monitor isnt coming up when i move the mouse or hit the keyboard. this is the last thing byobu and top sent to the tunnle before it dropped http://pastebin.com/qn0jKR9B |
11:53.34 | dracarys | *sigh* |
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11:53.44 | dracarys | the guy had no clue as to what he was doing |
11:54.32 | babilen | dracarys: And left a bit prematurely. Sadly exarkun never really answered the initial question what (s)he wants to achieve eventually. |
11:54.41 | babilen | Either way .. /me moves on |
11:54.47 | flufmnstr | im not hip on debugging, is there a log file i can check for clues? |
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12:15.21 | nopcall | I have a old IDE HDD. Should i format it to ext4 or ext3 to install Debian? |
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12:17.22 | alteregoa | how to determine what HDD is connected to controller? |
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12:22.24 | ChrisH | alteregoa: lshw -short |
12:22.47 | nabblet | hi, anyone experienced trouble with eclipes in wheezy? when i want to isntall pydev it does not show up after intstall |
12:22.56 | nabblet | pydev = python plugin for eclipse |
12:23.22 | alteregoa | and the controller means 0.05? |
12:24.29 | colo-work | what are my options when I intend to use a handful of Debian Wheezy machines with no shared storage to set up a HA cluster for (xen, qemu or lxc) virtual machines? |
12:24.38 | ChrisH | alteregoa: as root: lshw -short -C disk |
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12:25.05 | ChrisH | alteregoa: dunnow what 0.05 means at your output. If unsure paste all to paste.debian.net |
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12:26.12 | alteregoa | thank you very much |
12:26.30 | alteregoa | i determined the hdd controller above |
12:26.40 | alteregoa | so its addressed as 1c |
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12:30.26 | marc_smith | hi guys. Is there any place I can find archive versions of debian testings iso images? let's say - from before november, etc |
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12:36.20 | mumpitze1 | marc_smith: what do you need them for? |
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12:41.41 | marc_smith | well, I deleted content of my boot partition and the OS was installed around the other month. It's testing branch, so old packages are not accessible. Besides, they fail to reinstall |
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12:44.20 | mumpitze1 | old isos don't exist, old packages you can egt via snapshots.debian.net but tell us what the actual error is when booting |
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12:50.42 | tomboy65 | KBme: kivutar said you had a fix for the cross-compilation issue with eglibc |
12:50.49 | KBme | yeah |
12:50.54 | KBme | it's up on github |
12:50.57 | tomboy65 | may i have that? |
12:50.59 | tomboy65 | oh |
12:51.03 | tomboy65 | where? |
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13:27.53 | babilen | byte-smasher: I'd ask in #vbox |
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13:28.20 | byte-smasher | I did ... waiting for respinse.... figured I'd cover all my bases in the meantime :) |
13:29.36 | icesword | hello any ideas about my question |
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13:32.12 | RickWeaver | hi guys |
13:32.38 | RickWeaver | can someone tell me if there is any configuration file where I can set the default applications on a debian based system? |
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13:35.16 | FrankMartin | I have got a problem establishing connection with PPTP VPN on CentOS, Here is the var log http://pastebin.com/30yJvLca. Hope somebody can help me with tihs |
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13:42.10 | madmac2501 | hi, what is the difference between a debian-installer cdroom and netboot? |
13:42.14 | madmac2501 | cdrom* |
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13:42.44 | zykotick9 | madmac2501: the number of packages included on the media - only difference |
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13:43.03 | madmac2501 | I am trying to do a self contained installer with live-build, but that detects network from vmware studio |
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13:44.06 | abrotman | madmac2501: netboot or netinst? |
13:44.41 | madmac2501 | abrotman, that was my next question :) |
13:44.57 | madmac2501 | what is the difference between one and another? |
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13:48.37 | iateadonut | i just added a swap partition on /dev/sda3, but ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid|grep sda3 returns nothing |
13:48.42 | madmac2501 | what is the difference between netboot and netinst? |
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13:49.00 | zykotick9 | abrotman: oooohhh, my bad. boot vs inst is important distinction ;) |
13:49.03 | iateadonut | i deleted the old one because i was increasing the size of my root partition and home partition; the old one was "extended"; this one is "primary" |
13:49.32 | rozie | madmac2501: you know difference between boot and installation? |
13:49.33 | oskie | what makes linux (Debian) try the second nameserver in resolv.conf? Because the first was down (no ping answer, no DNS replies, nothing), and DNS lookups kept failing. |
13:49.43 | jelly | iateadonut: a reboot is required for the linux kernel to become aware of any partition table changes on a disk that's currently in use |
13:49.51 | madmac2501 | rozie, yes |
13:50.24 | madmac2501 | rozie, but i don't know between cdrom, netboot and netinst... |
13:50.34 | abrotman | madmac2501: netboot boots over the network, netinst is an ISO |
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13:50.56 | iateadonut | jelly, thanks. i had already rebooted |
13:51.55 | jelly | iateadonut: alright. Does /dev/sda3 exist? |
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13:53.26 | iateadonut | yes |
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13:56.54 | abrotman | madmac2501: you likely either want the netinst or CD1 |
13:58.00 | jelly | iateadonut: when did you mkswap /dev/sda3, before or after reboot? |
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14:01.30 | eb0t | hey guys how can i find out what version of pidgin i have installed on my debian |
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14:02.09 | ikanobori | Pidgin has an about button. |
14:02.25 | eb0t | thanks ikanobori |
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14:05.47 | pengunix | So a package maintainer surely does more than simply check out the latest stable and build it (using checkinstall?), right? |
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14:06.05 | pengunix | Does (s)he also apply patches by his own? Or are only patches applied by the source repository? |
14:06.09 | zykotick9 | eb0t: an alternative method, would be "apt-cache policy pidgin" in a terminal |
14:06.31 | jelly | dpkg, tell pengunix about nmg |
14:06.39 | zykotick9 | pengunix: they certainly DON'T use checkinstall for one ;) |
14:07.11 | pengunix | zykotick9: but this would be the easiest way, wouldn't it? :) |
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14:07.22 | pengunix | zykotick9: when make is used |
14:07.28 | zykotick9 | pengunix: checkinstall is only for LOCAL use, NOT distribution |
14:08.27 | rozie | pengunix: you have source, all patches and build instruction distributed by Debian, you can roll a package on your own |
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14:10.09 | pengunix | rozie: ah, the dependencies have to be met |
14:10.15 | pengunix | rozie: checkinstall doesn't do this, right? |
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14:12.38 | jelly | pengunix: really, go read the new maintainer's guide first, then come back asking questions |
14:12.45 | madmac2501 | abrotman, is it possible to have a self contained netboot? |
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14:13.07 | madmac2501 | or that is a netinst? |
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14:13.39 | abrotman | madmac2501: do you understand what a netboot is ? |
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14:14.02 | s1ck | Hi! Is there any way i can "test" install the proprietary amd fglrx and make some kind of dual-boot where I can choose radeon or fglrx? |
14:14.17 | madmac2501 | abrotman, well, better point me to the documentation |
14:14.27 | abrotman | dpkg: tell madmac2501 about ig |
14:14.31 | abrotman | dpkg: tell madmac2501 about netboot |
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14:15.04 | madmac2501 | abrotman, thank you! |
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14:15.52 | abrotman | I can't imagine netboot is what you really want |
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14:18.33 | bezaban | what is a good package to remove if I want to get rid of X? |
14:19.06 | bezaban | server meta package perhaps |
14:19.10 | bezaban | xserver* |
14:19.31 | abrotman | the metpackage is xorg |
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14:19.40 | bezaban | great. thanks |
14:20.04 | abrotman | removing x11-common would probably go a long way |
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14:20.51 | jelly | !remove x |
14:20.51 | dpkg | it has been said that remove x is "aptitude remove x11-common" will remove X. Use "purge" instead of remove if you also want to remove X's configuration. |
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14:21.18 | jelly | dpkg, factinfo remove x |
14:21.18 | dpkg | remove x -- last modified at Fri Mar 28 16:22:06 2008 by stew!i=1413@unaffiliated/stew; it has been requested 96 times, last by jelly, 27s ago. |
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14:21.34 | bezaban | thanks again x3 |
14:21.55 | bezaban | servers installed with X. Hurrah. |
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14:22.28 | bezaban | don't think they're like that in prod, but meh |
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14:33.16 | shinyPebble | is this the right channel for any questions about jessie? |
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14:34.18 | shinyPebble | oh wait no, #debian-next is what i want |
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14:35.32 | babilen | shinyPebble: note that #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net not here on freenode |
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14:47.09 | iateadonut | jelly, i never mkswap /dev/sda3 - i used gparted |
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14:50.10 | jelly | iateadonut: okay then, what does "blkid /dev/sda3" say and does it see TYPE="swap"? |
14:50.19 | jelly | or file -s /dev/sda3 |
14:50.51 | iateadonut | /dev/sda3: TYPE="swap" |
14:51.00 | cinevariety | ʇǝsʇ get disappeared. |
14:51.09 | iateadonut | screw it - i'll just use /dev/sda3 instead of the UUID in my fstab |
14:51.56 | zykotick9 | iateadonut: fyi, it's possible to apply LABELS to swap partitions... |
14:51.58 | jelly | iateadonut: that's the whole output? |
14:52.10 | iateadonut | that's the whole output |
14:52.24 | jelly | iateadonut: I'd do a manual mkswap again. |
14:53.03 | jelly | you can alos specify a LABEL with manual mkswap |
14:53.15 | iateadonut | sda3 now shows up |
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14:54.10 | iateadonut | ok. |
14:54.12 | iateadonut | did swapon |
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14:54.17 | iateadonut | showing up in 'free' now |
14:54.32 | iateadonut | updated the /etc/fstab to the new uuid - good to go on next reboot, i would think |
14:55.43 | jelly | file a bug report on gparted, if you care |
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14:59.11 | iateadonut | jelly, it was an old version of puppy i used to move the partitions around - i imagine that bug has already been reported. |
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15:04.08 | slooth | Hello. I'm using Jessie. I did upgrade yesterday and it broke my steam installation: steam: ../../../../../src/mesa/main/context.c:1501: _mesa_make_current: Assertion `newCtx->Version > 0' failed. Ideas? I reinstalled couple of mesa packages, but that didn't work |
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15:06.22 | skoef | hi, i'm looking for the specific linux-image package for version 3.2.0-4 (the current version in debian-installer for wheezy) |
15:06.40 | skoef | i want to slipstream some modules in the initrd for pxe-booting |
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15:07.10 | skoef | i counldn't find it on packages.debian.org |
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15:07.56 | lmat | To install debian, I need to download the 9 cds or 3 DVDs first, right ? |
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15:08.29 | zykotick9 | lmat: NO. i'd suggest just downloading the netinst image (assuming you have ethernet during install) |
15:08.45 | zykotick9 | lmat: the cd/dvd sets are for computers without network connection |
15:09.03 | lmat | zykotick9: That's what I wanted to know :) |
15:09.07 | zykotick9 | lmat: BUT cd1 or dvd1 will do! |
15:09.45 | skoef | hmm, googling 'linux-image 3.2.0-4' gives me the exact package in the first some hits |
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15:10.07 | skoef | searching for 'linux-image' in packages.debian.org won't give those results though |
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15:12.12 | lmat | zykotick9: Also good to know :) |
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15:13.12 | ctmjr | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
15:13.55 | ctmjr | if you want the amd64 image |
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15:40.18 | wald0 | how i can use the debian::tags for package search ? |
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15:41.38 | zykotick9 | wald0: verify you have debtags package installed, then "debtags search foo" |
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15:57.03 | local | Where and how can I search for a recent samba4 version as a Debian package? In Wheezy repository there is only samba4.0 available. Which version has testing or unstable? |
15:57.37 | local | Stable(Wheezy) has 4.0.0~alpha17~ |
15:57.54 | zykotick9 | ,v samba |
15:57.55 | judd | Package: samba on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze9; squeeze: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze10; squeeze-backports: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 2:3.6.19-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.0.11+dfsg-1; sid: 2:4.0.11+dfsg-1 |
15:57.57 | local | how can I check on the shell prompt which version "testing" and "unstable" has? Is there any apt command or similar? |
15:58.19 | local | judd: nice, but I would like to check for samba4 |
15:58.32 | local | judd: what is the command for that to do on Debian shell prompt? |
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15:58.52 | zykotick9 | local: that is samba4 (mainly) look again. "judd" is a (ro)Bot. |
15:59.10 | local | ,v samba4 |
15:59.11 | judd | Package: samba4 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3.2 |
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15:59.46 | local | zykotick9: is there any command whcih I can use on a Debian machine, to check the Debian repos for a package? |
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16:00.30 | zykotick9 | local: i'm not sure if apt-file can search in all the repos or not? maybe? |
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16:01.53 | zykotick9 | !tell local about apt-file |
16:02.48 | zykotick9 | local: humm, i'm not sure that's helpful... sorry. personally, i'd just check packages.debian.org |
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16:06.54 | anonnumberanon | In my Debian install I set up network time or maybe it was hardware time, when I had to set the clock. Now my clock is always an hour ahead. I have tried to change it multiple times and it always comes back to the wrong time. How screwed am I? |
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16:07.10 | jhutchins_wk | zykotick9: I believe it gets repo configuration from the sources.list/sources.d |
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16:07.52 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: ya, that makes sense. are you aware of anyway to search testing/sid from stable? i'm not... obviously ;) |
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16:08.00 | jordanm | !tell anonnumberanon about timezone |
16:09.01 | anonnumberanon | okay I'll look into that |
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16:10.19 | jhutchins_wk | zykotick9: I think the website is the usual recommendation. Or judd. |
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16:10.53 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: ya, i showed them the judd output, then suggested packages.debian.org ;) |
16:11.28 | jhutchins_wk | LoRez: I believe 2:4 indicates samba4, as the others are 2:3 and are samba3. |
16:11.38 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions samba4 |
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16:11.39 | judd | Package: samba4 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3.2 |
16:11.47 | jhutchins_wk | On the other hand... |
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16:12.15 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions samba3 |
16:12.16 | judd | No package named 'samba3' was found in i386. |
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16:12.35 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: try ",v samba" ;) |
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16:13.47 | jhutchins_wk | same as ,versions |
16:14.36 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: ya. it's "samba" vs "samba4" or "samba3" i'm trying to point out. |
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16:32.05 | local | anyone can explain to me which which command(/package) I can check the available packages+versionnumber on the various repositories of Debian? For example I want to display all the packages+versionnumber of BIND9 which are available on stable,testing,unstable,experimental. How can I do that on shell prompt?? |
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16:33.03 | mtn | local: http://packages.debian.org using a terminal based web browser. |
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16:34.05 | local | mtn: some other way ?? I mean, when I have NO online connection at the host. Maybe I can download and cache the repo lists and use them for searching/browsing the packages? maybe with apt-file somehow? |
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16:34.34 | mtn | local: I don't believe there is any way to do what you want without an internet connection |
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16:35.26 | mtn | local: if you don't have a connection why does it matter what the repos have? you won't be able to download anything anyway. |
16:35.36 | local | mtn: that's not the point |
16:35.48 | mtn | local: is there a point? |
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16:36.25 | local | mtn: yes, my question was how I can !query! a kind of cached database locally |
16:36.34 | zykotick9 | local: i'm not even sure why in information would be valuable? mixing packages from different repos is a BAD idea. so, who cares what's in testing/sid/experimental? |
16:36.43 | zykotick9 | s/in/the |
16:37.11 | local | zykotick9: apt-pinning maybe? |
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16:37.22 | local | zykotick9: I care, else I wouldn't ask |
16:37.43 | mtn | local: ok, you care, but we don't see any reason you should care. |
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16:37.51 | zykotick9 | local: binary mixing is a bad idea... see "/msg dpkg ssb" for proper backporting. |
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16:39.21 | local | mtn: why do you talk in plural? if you don't care, why did you reply on the initial question? If you don't know and cannot help, just ignore me. But stating that NOONE should care is a bad statement, because this is a public channel covering such questions about Debian. |
16:39.41 | local | zykotick9: You're right, but when a package is NOT available in the backports, you have to apt-pin |
16:39.57 | mtn | local: no, I asked you a simple question "is there a point?" and you haven't given us one. or me one, if you prefer. |
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16:40.10 | zykotick9 | local: i take it, you didn't actually read <ssb>... best of luck to you. |
16:40.22 | mtn | is done with this one |
16:41.31 | local | mtn: It's not part of the question WHY I would like to gather this information (querying a locally cached database) even when I would not be able to install from the net at the same time. The question was: IF and HOW I can do such a query and which package could/would help. THAT was the question |
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16:42.59 | local | zykotick9: well, you're wrong. I did! And I already was in that point, where the package was NOT available in the backports and I had to use apt-pinning. Luckily there were some guys in here, which greatly assisted me in that and helped me solve that problem. So I don't understand, why you are replying on such an offending way? |
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16:47.33 | BarackObama_I | Over and above all, it's just another day. |
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16:48.26 | Twinkletoes | I've given up trying to install trac - it just seems complicated, and apparently can only handle one project per instance. Is there some other (more easily installable/configurable) isse tracking software anyone can recommend? |
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16:50.27 | helo | is it safe to switch to systemd in wheezy? |
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16:52.29 | Chousuke | worked for me. |
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16:52.51 | Chousuke | it's easy to switch back though, so just try it out |
16:53.01 | Chousuke | it doesn't overwrite sysvinit |
16:53.24 | Chousuke | you have to install systemd and configure grub with init=/bin/systemd |
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16:56.06 | Chousuke | my only problem with systemd is that it boots so fast that the boot process is not smooth and pretty :( goes against my perfectionist tendencies |
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16:56.50 | mfp_ | hi all! my question is a bit of a long shot - i'm not sure where to ask. i have installed a lovely font called "Gillius ADF". now i picked it as the default font in iceweasel but it substitutes all the occurances of 'ss' with the german letter 'ß'. is this a font problem or maybe a setting in iceweasel? thanks in advance |
16:56.53 | Chousuke | I suppose if gdm integrated better with plymouth it could be made to look prettier |
16:57.15 | Myrtti | lightdm is nice tho |
16:57.28 | Chousuke | never used it, really. |
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16:57.48 | Chousuke | and the most time booting is spent typing in the encryption password anyway |
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16:58.58 | red-lichtie | Hi. When building gcc from source, is there a way to tell dpkg-buildpackage that I only want c & c++ to be built? My make died in libjava (after doing all sorts including fortran), none of which I require. And searching on Google for dpkg-buildpackage, source and gcc is a pointless execise, I've tried and list is huge and related to other programs using gcc, etc. :-) |
16:59.41 | red-lichtie | Here is what I entered: "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b -d" |
16:59.46 | Chousuke | red-lichtie: I think you would have to look at the build scripts to see if there are environment variables you can set. |
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17:00.35 | red-lichtie | Chousuke: I was looking all over the place, couldn't find anything. Not sure it is a rules thing that I should be looking for |
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17:02.20 | Kaneo | Hello guys, there is a HDMI port in my laptop, and I'd like to find out if it supports input or output, how can I find out? |
17:02.39 | Chousuke | I think it really depends on how the packaging has been implemented. |
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17:03.19 | jordanm | red-lichtie: debian/rules controls how the package is built |
17:03.39 | jordanm | but if you are removing binary packages, you will also need to edit debian/control |
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17:04.28 | red-lichtie | jordanm: Do you where the rules are documented? It is a bit overwhelming the amount of stuff in there |
17:05.07 | jordanm | red-lichtie: it's a make file.. so the makefile documentation and the rest depends on the build system |
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17:05.40 | jordanm | red-lichtie: looks like gcc uses debhelper, so man dh and man dh_* |
17:05.45 | jordanm | !tell red-lichtie about nmg |
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17:06.50 | jenJ33 | suppose that you are responsible of a server which has got more than 20000 users suddenly an organisation makes you a call and tell you that one of your users is now hacking our server and they give you a warning which if you won't stop him in 30 mins, we will attack your server (DDoS) and further more we will sue you as well. They give you their server IP address in other to make it very quick. Now my question is how can you find thi |
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17:09.18 | Chousuke | you got cut off? |
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17:10.09 | peterrooney | jenJ33: their proposed response to your rogue user is most likely criminal. |
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17:10.38 | Chousuke | also, what kind of a scenario is that? you could just as well ignore people like that |
17:10.52 | Chousuke | or report them for threatening you |
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17:12.02 | jenJ33 | thanks. any other idea? |
17:12.29 | Chousuke | well, of course you'd want to find the user doing the supposed "hacking" |
17:12.37 | Chousuke | but not because of the threat :P |
17:12.41 | mumpitze1 | peterrooney: not just "Most likely". DDOS is criminal offense, period |
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17:12.49 | mumpitze1 | jenJ33: man netstat |
17:12.52 | peterrooney | jenJ33: (i) your full question was cut off, and (ii) your setup is not mentioned. |
17:13.02 | ctmjr | sounds like a home work assignment |
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17:13.44 | zykotick9 | just want to point out jenJ33's question has been crossposted to multiple channels - i highly doubt this is debian-support related at all... |
17:14.07 | jenJ33 | peterrooney: full version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6454256/ |
17:14.30 | jenJ33 | mumpitze1: with netstat, what it's going to show me!? |
17:15.15 | jenJ33 | I mean what's the whole scenario? |
17:15.15 | peterrooney | !cross post |
17:15.16 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
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17:16.16 | peterrooney | ctmjr: I agree. Notice the impersonal wording from someone who thinks a hammer is dropping on them in 29 minutes |
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17:16.53 | pirulinux | existe algun canal para debian en español |
17:17.00 | peterrooney | jenJ33: give it up. Learn how to ask questions politely and intelligently before bringing your homework here. |
17:17.11 | mumpitze1 | !es |
17:17.12 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
17:17.24 | monsterco | Hi everyone - I have changed settings from DHCP to Static in /etc/network/interfaces but the system somehow changes it's IP every hour or so to get a DHCP address. What could I be doing wrong? |
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17:17.56 | pirulinux | gracias dpkg |
17:18.08 | monsterco | also, what is the "networking restart" alternative? I am seeing it's deprecated |
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17:18.42 | jordanm | monsterco: ifup/ifdown |
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17:19.35 | jordanm | monsterco: dhclient is probably still running. use dhclient -r or -x |
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17:20.09 | monsterco | jordanm - can I permenently disable dhclient? so it doesn't turn on upon restart? |
17:20.39 | jordanm | monsterco: if dhcp isn't configured in interfaces, it shouldn't on restart |
17:20.59 | monsterco | is the /etc/network/interfaces <<< the only file I have to worry about if I have a very simply static IP scenario I want to set to the server? |
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17:21.37 | monsterco | jordanm - the original settings had "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
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17:22.03 | monsterco | I changed that to: "auto eth" and "iface eth0 inet static" and then the IP address... |
17:22.11 | zykotick9 | monsterco: that "auto eth0" means, automatically bring eth0 on boot... just sayin' |
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17:22.22 | monsterco | like this: http://paste.debian.net/67037/ |
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17:22.46 | monsterco | zykotick9 - thanks, yeah thought so - that is not DHCP and it's just for interface |
17:23.02 | mumpitze1 | either it's a dhclient/dhcpd still running or it's network-manager |
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17:23.54 | monsterco | mumpitze1 - I did apt-get remove network-manager |
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17:24.13 | monsterco | mumpitze1 - how can I verify that dhclient is never going to wake up again? |
17:24.34 | mumpitze1 | normally it simply shouldn't |
17:24.45 | mumpitze1 | if this is actual debian wheezy |
17:25.07 | zykotick9 | monsterco: 1) is the 255.255.252.0 intended? 2) i have additionally lines for: network band broadcast in my interfaces. |
17:25.25 | jelly-home | monsterco: if it's still running, you may safely kill that process |
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17:26.52 | monsterco | yes,that is the subnet |
17:27.12 | monsterco | do I must have the additional lines? I would like to keep it very simple |
17:27.13 | zykotick9 | monsterco: ok, just checkin' |
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17:27.56 | monsterco | zykotick9 - yeah I hate it when I near end of my /24 subnet so this allows for a lot of flexibility - it's virtual containers and I can have tons of them |
17:28.10 | zykotick9 | monsterco: if i had to guess, i'd think broadcast is, and network isn't... but someone with more knowledge can confirm |
17:28.12 | monsterco | or use numbering system for different appliances - easier to look at |
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17:28.43 | monsterco | Isn't broadcast picked of the netmask? |
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17:29.00 | monsterco | what is your exact line in broadcast? |
17:29.14 | monsterco | what is equivalant of psaux in debian? |
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17:29.24 | zykotick9 | monsterco: "ps aux" |
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17:30.46 | monsterco | lol |
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17:31.36 | monsterco | I see this when I do ps aux for dh: http://paste.debian.net/67040/ |
17:31.51 | monsterco | I previously did dhclient -r and dhclient -x |
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17:35.06 | zykotick9 | monsterco: just fyi, but on my system "ps aux | grep dh" just returns the grep, nothing else... |
17:35.23 | monsterco | I will kill these buggers |
17:35.34 | monsterco | but how can I ensure they don't return on reboot? chkconfig? |
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17:37.19 | zykotick9 | monsterco: rcconf is a bit more "debian" then RH's chkconfig. |
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17:41.11 | monsterco | zykotick9 - not found - but thanks I will look it up |
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17:41.52 | zykotick9 | monsterco: sorry, ya it's not installed by default. there are means to disable services built in... but off-hand i'm unfamiliar with there usage. |
17:41.53 | jordanm | zykotick9: what makes it more "debian" |
17:42.10 | jordanm | because it's more difficult to use and only handles sysvinit? |
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17:42.49 | zykotick9 | jordanm: wasn't it created by debian? vs. RH who created chkconfig? ya re: sysvinit - i have no idea... |
17:42.49 | jordanm | monsterco: just install chkconifg |
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17:53.37 | neo1691 | Hey guys I am trying to install the latest version of iceweasel from backports. but when I run the command apt-get install -t wheezy-backports iceweasel it says it is already installed to the latest version. Any help? |
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17:54.52 | scotepi | with the new release style can I take a 7.1 netinstall cd and install 7.2 directly? |
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17:55.44 | scotepi | or is it install 7.1 and then do a sys upgrade? |
17:55.45 | dondelelcaro | scotepi: if you have internet, that's actually what you'll end up with |
17:56.07 | mumpitze1 | navugo: dpkg -l |grep iceweasel |
17:56.19 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: ^ |
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17:57.15 | neo1691 | mumpitze1, ii iceweasel 10.0.12esr-1 amd64 Web browser based on Firefox |
17:57.35 | scotepi | so it will directly install 7.2 with the 7.1 disk |
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17:59.20 | jelly-home | yes |
17:59.46 | Gregor2 | Can someone tell me how to compile Sorce code? |
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18:01.10 | neo1691 | Gregor2, What are you trying to compile? |
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18:01.20 | C00re | c++ ? |
18:02.03 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: which debian do you run? |
18:02.17 | Gregor2 | http://www.mamedev.org/release.html |
18:02.21 | Gregor2 | this |
18:02.30 | Gregor2 | and im running debian wheezy! |
18:02.42 | neo1691 | It should have a readme or install file? |
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18:03.01 | Gregor2 | no |
18:03.05 | Gregor2 | only for windows!1 |
18:03.06 | neo1691 | basic steps are ./configure -> make -> #make install |
18:03.06 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: please answer |
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18:03.24 | neo1691 | mumpitze1: already answered |
18:03.29 | neo1691 | ii iceweasel 10.0.12esr-1 amd64 Web browser based on Firefox |
18:03.40 | neo1691 | This was the output ^^ |
18:03.43 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: no you did not. < mumpitze1> neo1691: which debian do you run? |
18:03.57 | neo1691 | wheezy |
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18:04.03 | mumpitze1 | you don't run wheezy. |
18:04.12 | mumpitze1 | your iceweasel is from squeeze. uname -a |
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18:04.27 | scotepi | For a P4 should I install 7 or 6 or 5? |
18:04.46 | neo1691 | Linux Dynamic 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
18:04.47 | mumpitze1 | scotepi: 7 |
18:04.56 | mumpitze1 | !tell neo1691 about bat |
18:04.59 | mumpitze1 | show us your sources.list |
18:05.06 | scotepi | Its going to run LAMP (Apache/PHP) and Samba |
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18:05.57 | jelly-home | ,v iceweasel |
18:05.59 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; jessie: 17.0.9esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 17.0.9esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 24.1.0esr-1; experimental: 25.0-1 |
18:06.09 | neo1691 | mumpitze1http://paste.debian.net/ |
18:06.19 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: that's not a valid pastebin entry. |
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18:06.25 | mumpitze1 | it has some numbers at the end |
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18:06.51 | neo1691 | mumpitze1, http://paste.debian.net/ |
18:06.55 | neo1691 | sorry |
18:07.09 | mumpitze1 | it still has no numbers at the end. press "send" |
18:07.22 | mumpitze1 | http://paste.debian.net/67047/ is a valid one |
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18:08.14 | neo1691 | http://paste.debian.net/67048/ |
18:08.17 | neo1691 | there you go |
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18:08.30 | neo1691 | I am sure I have installed wheezy |
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18:09.09 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: but your sources.list is awful. and you have never instealled icewease in wheezy, which means your upgrade was not a proper one |
18:09.16 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: apt-cache policy iceweasel |
18:09.35 | mumpitze1 | !tell neo1691 about wheezy sources.list |
18:09.49 | mumpitze1 | especially the updates one you should use. security updates are not optional |
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18:10.21 | neo1691 | But I have never upgraded debian, I just installed a fresh new debian on my system |
18:10.45 | Gregor2 | There is no configure folder |
18:10.57 | Gregor2 | but there is a file called makefile! |
18:11.04 | neo1691 | Gregor2, go to the folder and run ./configure |
18:11.14 | mumpitze1 | not from the official wheezy installer. as you can see above, wheezy has iceweasel 17, and the only place you can get 10 is from squeeze-backports or when wheezy was testing |
18:11.22 | Gregor2 | and extract it before? |
18:11.27 | jelly-home | ,v xmame-x |
18:11.28 | judd | Package: xmame-x on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.106-3.2; jessie/non-free: 0.146-5; sid/non-free: 0.146-5; wheezy/non-free: 0.146-5; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.151-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.151-dmo1 |
18:11.47 | jelly-home | Gregor2: there's a build of an older version in the non-free repo. |
18:11.48 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: there is a reason why local repos are a hassle, and when running testing, it's futile and defeats the point |
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18:12.11 | Gregor2 | but i want the new one? |
18:12.29 | Gregor2 | is it better to take the package? |
18:12.38 | jelly-home | it's certainly easier |
18:13.14 | ctmjr | Gregor2: why are you trying to compile a windows binary on linux think about it |
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18:14.16 | Gregor2 | only wanna try! |
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18:14.19 | neo1691 | mumpitze1, What exactly should I do now? |
18:14.24 | jelly-home | ctmjr: presumably he's trying to compile the _source_ |
18:14.33 | Gregor2 | i want to know how to compile! |
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18:14.59 | Gregor2 | Yes i want to compile the source! |
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18:15.53 | phox | so if I have a package installed from Sid and want to forcibly reinstall the stable version, how do I make Apt do that? |
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18:16.44 | jelly-home | Gregor2: open source software often depends on other components. You'll want to install the compiler and the headers needed to build mame, before doing the ./configure && make bit |
18:16.49 | mumpitze1 | neo1691: fix your sources.list, dpkg showed you how. |
18:17.10 | jelly-home | !tell Gregor2 about deb-src |
18:17.30 | jelly-home | !tell Gregor2 about build-deps |
18:17.36 | jelly-home | !tell Gregor2 about build-dep |
18:17.41 | Gregor2 | it could have errors right? |
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18:18.27 | Gregor2 | configure was not found! |
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18:21.17 | phox | anyone? bueller? |
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18:24.07 | Gregor2 | but there is no configure folder!! |
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18:25.26 | jelly-home | Gregor2: folder? Show exactly what you've done so far, put it in a pastebin. |
18:25.37 | Gregor2 | nothing |
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18:26.09 | Gregor2 | I downloaded and unpacked that! |
18:26.10 | Gregor2 | http://www.mamedev.org/downloader.php?file=releases/mame0151s.zip |
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18:28.24 | jelly-home | Gregor2: show the commands used, and the contents of the unpacked folder, in a pastebin, please |
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18:30.02 | Gregor2 | i used fileroller to unpack it on graphical! |
18:30.43 | red-lichtie | I think I found it: CONFARGS |
18:30.46 | manyglaciers | Hi. I think I might have messed up something with update-alternatives. I can't make Eclipse work, it seems to be unable to resolve anything from jdk. |
18:32.09 | red-lichtie | jordanm: "CONFARGS=--enable-languages=c,c++ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b -d" seems to have done the trick |
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18:39.49 | DammitJim | can someone help me clarify something about linux authentication with a windows AD? |
18:40.05 | DammitJim | I was able to get authentication with winbind on linux, but now my boss is asking about LDAP |
18:40.40 | DammitJim | I was reading an older article about LDAP and it said that passwords are sent unencrypted and it recommended using Winbind. Any reason why I should not do winbind? |
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18:43.16 | nonconvergent{m} | Huh. |
18:43.24 | nonconvergent{m} | I think my ssh server at home crashed. |
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18:44.35 | nonconvergent{m} | I can ping the IP, I see that I'm still logged on in other channels, but I can't ssh to it. Which either its down or the router had a hiccup/was changed an my port forward was borked. |
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18:44.54 | fruitFly | how to dualboot debian beside win8? |
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18:45.38 | jordanm | DammitJim: you can't do plain LDAP auth to an AD controller |
18:45.54 | DammitJim | oh |
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18:46.04 | jordanm | DammitJim: windbind maps AD users to unix UIDs and groups to GIDs |
18:46.33 | jordanm | DammitJim: AD LDAP doesn't hold that information by default, which is required for *nix users |
18:46.53 | jordanm | DammitJim: winbind is still querying AD's LDAP, it's just not using it to authenticate |
18:47.02 | jordanm | kerberos is a more secure method anyways |
18:47.04 | jelly-home | nonconvergent{m}: instead of relying on port forwarding, consider setting up a vpn to a machine with fixed ip somewhere on the internets |
18:47.40 | nonconvergent{m} | jelly-home: what's the benefit? |
18:47.48 | nonconvergent{m} | I don't use 22 anyway. |
18:48.03 | DammitJim | jordanm, is this related to sssd? |
18:48.17 | jelly-home | nonconvergent{m}: not having to rely on the router and its ip so much |
18:48.24 | nonconvergent{m} | my ssh listens on an obscure port (just to cut down on knocks...she's locked up tight unless you get my keys). |
18:48.38 | jordanm | DammitJim: no, I haven't used it |
18:49.15 | nonconvergent{m} | jelly-home: I'm fairly sure it's still there and still up. Just no idea why I can't ssh to it. |
18:49.37 | nonconvergent{m} | Unless GSU is suddenly blocking my obscure port. |
18:50.07 | nonconvergent{m} | jelly-home: Want to do me a favor? Try knocking on it yourself? I'll tell you the port. |
18:50.18 | jelly-home | sure... |
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18:59.59 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: "lsmod | grep nouveau" returns a bunch of nouveau?!?! |
19:00.15 | zykotick9 | jhutchins_wk: sorry, wrong channel ;) |
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19:04.10 | nonconvergent{m} | This is annoying. I can't access my vagrant sessions from here, or my web server. |
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19:06.19 | lmat | cardamon: Do you think you should be able to access your webserver ? |
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19:15.31 | superjoe | I'm creating a utility that I hope to eventually get into debian. I'm currently choosing between adding a dependency on freeimage and devil. Any recommendations? |
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19:15.59 | superjoe | it seems that both are in the repos, but I heard that freeimage statically bundles some dependencies and it is my understanding that debian frowns upon this |
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19:19.17 | fruitFly | how do i dualboot debian on a win8 machine? any ideas? |
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19:20.32 | sseehh | http://MassSpectrumBotanicals.com Live Seeds. Live Plants. Products for plants. Products from plants. Bound together by chemistry & light: Germplasm Factory / Micronursery / Plant Growth Regulators / Custom Seed Vaults / Lab Spec Horticulture Solutions. Worldwide Importing & Exporting. Unlimited combined shipping only $6 in the U.S. |
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19:21.42 | jelly-home | !ops sseehh seeds spam |
19:21.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: sseehh seeds spam |
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19:22.26 | jelly-home | ... should have gone with "veggie spam" |
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19:24.50 | Tylertwo | fruitFly, https://wiki.debian.org/WindowsDualBoot |
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19:25.48 | unholycrab | has anyone set up an apt repository before? i am getting connection failed when trying to install the package on another machine... though i am able to download the package using a web browser, and i can get the package list with apt-get update just fine |
19:26.25 | unholycrab | permissions are 644, owner is the apache user |
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19:27.55 | unholycrab | "Failed to fetch http://aptitude.example.com/packages/testpackage_1.0_amd64.deb Connection failed" |
19:27.57 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: can you view the archive from that machine? |
19:28.10 | unholycrab | but when i wget that exact url from the same machine, it downloads the file |
19:28.18 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: what happens when you HEAD http://aptitude.example.com/packages/testpackage_1.0_amd64.deb? |
19:28.50 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: hrm; is there anything unusual about this setup? what's the web server running the archive? Do you have throttling or any connection limits set up? |
19:29.09 | unholycrab | curl: (18) transfer closed with 806 bytes remaining to read |
19:29.22 | dondelelcaro | uh... yeah, that's not good |
19:30.02 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: what webserver is the archive running? |
19:30.03 | unholycrab | dondelelcaro: its apache2, and no |
19:30.28 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: what do the apache logs say? |
19:30.55 | jhutchins_wk | unholycrab: Tell apt to use wget. |
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19:31.12 | dondelelcaro | (there's nothing really special about a Debian archive; it's just a bunch of files and directories served by a web server or ftp server) |
19:31.24 | dondelelcaro | (or I suppose, via NFS or something else crazy) |
19:31.52 | peterS | I hear rumors some people even install debian from archives stored on ISO-9660 filesystems! on CDs! |
19:32.03 | mumpitze1 | peterS: only experts |
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19:32.51 | unholycrab | dondelelcaro: i can see the HEAD request in the access logs, nothing in the error logs |
19:32.55 | unholycrab | er, hold on |
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19:34.30 | unholycrab | hmm. it looks like its not hitting the apache server at all when i try to apt-get install |
19:34.42 | scotepi | is there a simple WINS server or do I need to go all out with Samba? |
19:34.47 | unholycrab | how is it trying to fetch the package then |
19:35.05 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: what does apt-cache policy foopkg; say? |
19:35.07 | peterS | you can run samba just as a wins server, there's no need to provide any file or print shares |
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19:35.26 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: alternatively, do you have a proxy or something else configured? say, http_proxy or similar set? |
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19:36.14 | peterS | scotepi: and in fact since wins is provided by nmbd, techncially you could run just that and not smbd. though I don't think the samba packaging makes this convenient. |
19:36.24 | unholycrab | i dont think so dondelelcaro |
19:36.29 | unholycrab | like i said, i can wget that url just fine |
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19:36.37 | unholycrab | but apt-get doesn't seem to be hitting the web server |
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19:36.51 | scotepi | thanks, I'll play around. I'm just dealing with junk hardware and don't want to put to much of a load on it |
19:37.13 | unholycrab | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=S7vGZdTk |
19:37.16 | peterS | scotepi: yeah don't worry about load. if smbd isn't doing anything it won't really take any noticeable resources. |
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19:37.57 | scotepi | peterS: its a old P4 with 1GB and i might run it on a Raspberry Pi |
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19:38.25 | peterS | scotepi: see now I feel old. I used to run samba all the time on boxes with like 64 MB or less |
19:38.47 | peterS | that was... a few releases ago, to be sure |
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19:39.06 | jhutchins_wk | scotepi: Just don't mess with winbind, and remember to keep your logging low for prod ops. |
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19:39.15 | l_r | finally i am here |
19:39.28 | peterS | good, the party can start now |
19:39.29 | l_r | no one outside could give me an answer to my case |
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19:39.37 | l_r | which is not absurd |
19:39.43 | l_r | (although i am sometimes) |
19:39.48 | jelly-home | !ask |
19:39.48 | l_r | <PROTECTED> |
19:39.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
19:39.54 | jelly-home | !enter |
19:39.55 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
19:40.21 | peterS | jelly-home: ease up a little, you're making dpkg flood more than l_r is (: |
19:40.23 | jelly-home | over with preemptive !factoids |
19:40.41 | l_r | i need to configure (without modiying scripts) the system so that if dhcpd fails to get an ip,dns,etc.. for eth0, then a static ip,static dns are given to eth0 |
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19:41.15 | l_r | there must be a solution without touching scripts directly |
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19:41.27 | l_r | google does not help |
19:41.40 | l_r | or i could not find any useful link |
19:41.41 | peterS | l_r: what you want is to configure a static lease for dhclient to fall back on |
19:41.51 | l_r | peterS, wow,thx |
19:41.57 | l_r | you seem to know what you are saying |
19:42.02 | l_r | i ll insert your answer in google |
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19:43.51 | l_r | peterS, do you think the static lease would also allow me to set the dns? |
19:43.54 | peterS | l_r: 'man dhclient.conf', then search for the section LEASE DECLARATIONS. this is a document describing what to put in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
19:44.06 | l_r | great |
19:44.08 | l_r | thx |
19:44.20 | unholycrab | can i specify in my apt repository, how apt-get is to fetch the packages? |
19:44.27 | peterS | l_r: I haven't tried it, but yes, you should be able to use normal options like 'option name-servers 10.1.1.5 10.1.1.6;' in there |
19:44.44 | unholycrab | jhutchins_wk: how do i configure what you are suggesting? is it on the side of the apt repo |
19:44.45 | peterS | l_r: pardon, 'domain-name-servers' not just 'name-servers' |
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19:45.40 | peterS | LRN: pardon again, name servers are , separated not space separated (: |
19:46.02 | peterS | l_r ^^ |
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19:46.15 | l_r | many thx |
19:46.19 | l_r | i ll try immediatly |
19:46.22 | peterS | no problem, good luck |
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19:48.15 | jhutchins_wk | unholycrab: I don't remember but it's in the man page. |
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19:54.04 | phox | if I have a package installed from Sid and want to forcibly reinstall the stable version, how do I make Apt do that? |
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19:54.26 | DammitJim | I don't understand when I should use a symbolic link... |
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19:54.50 | DammitJim | right now I have a jar application that runs somewhere in opt |
19:55.03 | norayr | hey people of debian |
19:55.11 | mumpitze1 | phox: not with apt but dpkg |
19:55.15 | DammitJim | I am using a java service wrapper for it and I was using a symbolic link from where the java service wrapper is to the opt/ where the jar is |
19:55.19 | mumpitze1 | !tell phox about partial downgrade |
19:55.24 | norayr | I need an advice from the people who remember potato, woody, sarge |
19:55.27 | DammitJim | but then someone just asked me why I was doing that and not just calling it directly from opt/ |
19:55.46 | DammitJim | I thought symbolic links just help you organize your configurations, right? |
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19:56.12 | norayr | My friend has very old laptop, and no money at all. The laptop is IBM Thinkpad 365, it has 500mb drive and 26mb RAM. |
19:56.24 | norayr | I need to choose a debian version to install him. |
19:56.41 | norayr | I believe potato will work on it. |
19:56.59 | norayr | However, it would be extremely cool, if sarge could work. |
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19:57.24 | norayr | But I am afraid, sarge has 2.6 kernel, which will require more than 26 mb of memory to unpack itself |
19:57.31 | norayr | and it won't boot. |
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19:57.42 | norayr | also, I don't remember how much disk space it required. |
19:57.44 | flypp | norayr, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/minimum_hardware_requirements.html |
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19:58.15 | norayr | I remember that I could install minimal woody on 80 mb space. |
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19:58.23 | norayr | flypp: thank you, let me see |
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19:59.16 | mumpitze1 | norayr: you're better of with somthing like damnsmall linux, puppy linux, etc |
19:59.35 | norayr | mumpitze1: thank you, I did not think of it |
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19:59.49 | sadbox | mumpitze1: Even puppy reccomends 64MB of ram minimum =/ |
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20:05.39 | fruitFly | is anyone familiar with dual booting debian beside windows 8, do all I have to do is disable secure boot or what? |
20:05.51 | fruitFly | i think my pc might be using UEFI |
20:06.18 | jhutchins_wk | !uefi |
20:06.18 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
20:06.36 | BrazierCustoms | hello, I have a debian vserver, only used for mysql. I recently had to restore a backup (of the entire server) since then I cant start mysql and I cant find any log info or any idea why.. |
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20:07.45 | jhutchins_wk | fruitFly: You should follow the appropriate portion of the install guide, and you need to disable fast boot or quick boot for Windows in the BIOS as well. |
20:08.50 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: if that's all apt-cache policy; says, then it should be hitting the server. If it's not, then you've got something else going on. Run apt-get download foopkg; under strace for more information |
20:08.54 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: You can configure mysql for more verbose logging. |
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20:11.34 | fruitFly | jhutchins_wk: install guide where? and in my bios all I saw pertaining to booting was Launch CSM (compatibility support module) [enabled], secure boot [enabled] and launch EFI filesystem from file system device. |
20:11.50 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, I dont know how. I am so screwed, our email has been down for 3 days and I am currently out with pneumonia trying to fix it |
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20:12.01 | fruitFly | jhutchins_wk: i didn't see anything about fast boot? |
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20:14.13 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: is syslog running? If it is, check /var/log/daemon.log for any mysql messages |
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20:14.50 | jelly-home | (y u no remote access) |
20:15.40 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, I am on remote access, rsyslog is running |
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20:17.52 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: There is no standard "mysql doesn't start after a restore" fix. |
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20:18.07 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: You need to figure out why it's not starting. How have you tried starting it? |
20:18.50 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, I realize that, but I thought maybe it would get me an answer as to where to look :) |
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20:19.31 | jhutchins_wk | logs |
20:19.33 | sadbox | It is probably unrelated, but I had a similar issue a few days ago: Apparently mysql won't start if your buffer pool is set to something larger than physical memory =P |
20:19.40 | sadbox | (it also didn't show anything in the logs) |
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20:20.37 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Address already in use, but its supposed to be the same config.. |
20:20.46 | macondo_ | hi, i tried #debian-backports and nothing. Is there another channel for backports? |
20:20.59 | BrazierCustoms | this is a vserver on a server that has its own mysql |
20:21.42 | unholycrab | dondelelcaro: do you think this has something to do with it? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6psxge3Q |
20:21.47 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: /var/log/mysql/mysql.log to start, /var/log/daemon.log |
20:21.53 | unholycrab | i don't have the language directories |
20:21.57 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: pastebin the whole line from the logs, and/or the whole command line and output you use |
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20:22.02 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: YOu may need to turn the log on in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
20:22.04 | reber | hi |
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20:22.39 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: ps ax | grep sql? |
20:22.42 | jhutchins_wk | netstat? |
20:22.43 | reber | i'm trying to open a link in libreoffice but that doesnt work. How to associate an extension file to a software please ? |
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20:23.02 | jhutchins_wk | reber: Generally right-click, open with |
20:23.16 | reber | no inside libre office jhutchins_wk |
20:23.17 | BrazierCustoms | haha let me catch up.. |
20:23.24 | rudiX | Hello from Bulgaria |
20:23.24 | sadbox | BrazierCustoms: Check my.cnf to see what port it's trying to bind to, then check netstat to see what's already listening on that port =P |
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20:24.29 | macondo_ | are backports discontinued? the main page talks about 'squeeze' and iceweasel's version is 10, in wheezy it's version 17 , any thoughts? |
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20:25.33 | rudiX | I was able to netboot my old vaio to live@user bash ... then startx also works ... but the icon "Install Debian" does not ... any suggestions to install debian via command ? |
20:25.46 | jelly-home | macondo_: parts of the backports web page are out of date, but they're still alive and kicking |
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20:26.37 | GentileBen | rudiX do you know Dimitar Berbatov? |
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20:27.07 | rudiX | GentileBen: not personally :) ... how this could help :) |
20:27.10 | macondo_ | jelly-home, thanks pal, it's confusing |
20:27.13 | mumpitze1 | rudiX: what doesn't work exactly? need a error message |
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20:27.56 | rudiX | no errors it's live 686 os via netboot |
20:28.16 | rudiX | maybe i need i386 due the fact this is old machine |
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20:29.13 | mumpitze1 | if it booted 686 is fine. what happens when you click on it? |
20:29.21 | echo083 | hello, there are touchsrcreen tablet compatible with debian ? |
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20:29.32 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, http://pastebin.com/ZnhbR7RZ |
20:29.46 | rudiX | basically it boots via some fancy space menu with rocket and the nice debian logo on it , then I see the dash prompt with live@debian |
20:29.59 | rudiX | the goal is to install the os |
20:30.26 | mumpitze1 | rudiX: how are you trying to start the installer then? |
20:30.56 | rudiX | mumpitze1: typing "startx" then clicking the installer (no success) |
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20:31.09 | Pitr | anyone know about availability of OSSEC-package? It is a rather popular host-based intrusion detection system. |
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20:31.16 | mumpitze1 | so check what that icon calls and try to run this in a xterm |
20:31.25 | mumpitze1 | or you can use debootstrap if you want to |
20:31.30 | mumpitze1 | !tell rudiX about debootstrap |
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20:32.13 | inthl | how to tell dig to use a different resolver ...? |
20:32.40 | rudiX | much appreciatiatons ... guess now i know what to do :) |
20:32.46 | mumpitze1 | inthl: @ |
20:33.00 | mumpitze1 | !tell rudiX about debootstrap |
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20:33.15 | bezoka | hi |
20:33.20 | bezoka | where can I find "./qtbase/bin/"? |
20:33.28 | rudiX | mumpitze1: no sarcasm ... thank you |
20:33.29 | rudiX | :) |
20:33.52 | jhutchins_wk | bezoka: locate qtbase |
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20:34.23 | bezoka | but I dont know where can I search it :d |
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20:34.51 | mumpitze1 | rudiX: just wanted to giev you some pointers/docs how to use debootstrap |
20:34.55 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, did you see the paste? http://pastebin.com/ZnhbR7RZ |
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20:35.02 | inthl | mumpitze1, yes, this queries another dns-server, but I meant to query a dns server using a different one |
20:35.05 | mumpitze1 | jhutchins_wk: locate isn't installed by default anymore |
20:35.34 | well_laid_lawn | find is easier than locate imo |
20:35.35 | inthl | meaning: tell dig to query another dns-server for a dns-query...whether possible. I think it is |
20:35.53 | mumpitze1 | inthl: you can only choose to query a server. who this server then queries in turn you cannot decide, it's up to the server |
20:36.32 | mumpitze1 | dig @8.8.8.8 debian.org queries the google DNS server instead of your local one |
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20:36.49 | mumpitze1 | well_laid_lawn: locate has a database and is instant. find takes a very long time on a hdd |
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20:37.15 | well_laid_lawn | only if the database is up to date |
20:37.23 | bezoka | jhutchins_wk: I am noob, didnt know "locate" is a commend ^^ |
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20:38.26 | mumpitze1 | well_laid_lawn: yes, cronjob usually |
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20:40.23 | helo | Chousuke: thanks for the comments re: systemd earlier... it's working great now :) |
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20:40.37 | well_laid_lawn | mumpitze1: to find a recently created file the database has to be updated, find is easier imo |
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20:41.00 | Tylertwo | well_laid_lawn, even if the DB isn't up to date it usually just takes a couple seconds to update it |
20:41.05 | Chousuke | helo: you're welcome |
20:41.19 | mumpitze1 | well_laid_lawn: about as long as the find run often :) |
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20:42.41 | well_laid_lawn | mumpitze1: so via cron the database is updated, then to find recently created files the database is updated again. find is easier imo |
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20:51.10 | slooth | Hello. I am compiling my own kernel package (using make-kpkg). However, I forgot to add one module that I need and I don't want to recompile the whole kernel, but I want to make new package WITH that module. How can I do that? (I already tried with --added_modules, it did nothing) |
20:52.10 | mumpitze1 | slooth: don't. use make deb-pkg |
20:52.18 | superjoe | is there a nice UTF8 C library I can depend on? |
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20:52.41 | superjoe | or better yet, a relaxed json parser C library |
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20:52.55 | Lorcatar | Hola |
20:52.59 | Lorcatar | ;) |
20:53.19 | Lorcatar | When I look at process manager I have about 100 processes called package-extract ;) |
20:53.24 | Lorcatar | Should I be worried? |
20:53.32 | slooth | mumpitze1, what? What's that? |
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20:53.42 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, you still here? |
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20:54.00 | mumpitze1 | !tell slooth about kernel handbook |
20:54.13 | mumpitze1 | BrazierCustoms: he lives here. we can't get rid of him :P |
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20:54.35 | slooth | mumpitze1, it starts to recompile the whole kernel. |
20:54.52 | Lorcatar | ;) respond bls |
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20:56.22 | mumpitze1 | make-kpkg runs make clean afaik, yes |
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20:56.55 | mumpitze1 | you could run just make modules then it will only compile the module and then add it to the debian kernel .deb manually at the right place |
20:57.00 | mumpitze1 | a .deb is just an archive |
20:57.11 | slooth | mumpitze1, that doesn't work. I can't insert the created module |
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20:57.41 | mumpitze1 | why not? |
20:57.43 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: so, is there a mysqld process running at present? |
20:57.57 | BrazierCustoms | not on the vserver |
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20:58.11 | slooth | mumpitze1, "module: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout" |
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20:58.30 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: does "telnet localhost 3306" connect to something? |
20:58.33 | nevyn | slooth: you can use make deb-pkg rather than make-kpkg these days |
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20:59.06 | slooth | nevyn, when I issue: make deb-pkg, it starts compiling the whole kernel. I just need one module compiled and added in |
20:59.16 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, vserver doesn't have telnet |
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20:59.37 | nevyn | slooth: so... if you'd built the original kernel with make deb-pkg it wouldn't do that |
20:59.42 | mumpitze1 | slooth: go into the directory with the module source and run "make" |
20:59.45 | mumpitze1 | might owrk |
20:59.49 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Back. |
20:59.54 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: install it? |
20:59.59 | nevyn | slooth: the problem is make-kpkg destroys the kernel intermediate files (deliberatly) |
21:00.04 | slooth | mumpitze1, it doesn't work.. "No targets, stop" |
21:00.25 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: does it have lsof or netstat? |
21:00.25 | slooth | nevyn, yeh I figured it do that, I thought there might be some way around this. |
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21:00.41 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, did u see my pastebin? |
21:00.49 | mumpitze1 | slooth: make modules? (grasping at straws here, would need to look at the Makefile) |
21:00.52 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, netstat |
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21:01.21 | nevyn | mumpitze1: nope it relies on stuff generated during make zimage. |
21:01.32 | mumpitze1 | :( |
21:01.46 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, http://pastebin.com/ZnhbR7RZ I dont have anything running on 3306 |
21:01.57 | slooth | mumpitze1, it doesn't work but it seems there isn't a way around this. I should have had used deb-pkg. Anyway, thanks a lot. You too, nevyn |
21:02.13 | nevyn | slooth: you could configure the kernel as minimally as possible build it and copy the .ko out |
21:02.25 | slooth | nevyn, something liek oldmenuconfig? |
21:02.54 | nevyn | I think there's a minimalconfig option |
21:03.03 | slooth | Yeah, I tried it, I got stuck.. |
21:03.14 | nevyn | like make minimalconfig |
21:03.26 | nevyn | you then run make menuconfig and turn on the module you want |
21:03.27 | slooth | nevyn, yeah, I remembered: I couldn't activate the module :) When I did make menuconfig, I couldn't access the module I am trying to add :) |
21:03.35 | nevyn | ah. |
21:03.42 | nevyn | then your kernel config was wrong. |
21:03.44 | slooth | It was hilarious. I thought of manually updating .config, but too much work. Anyway, I'll just rebuild it |
21:03.48 | jhutchins_wk | Sorry, my connectivity to the node running irssi has been intermittent. |
21:04.25 | nevyn | slooth: so... this happens when you're trying to enable something that you havn't enabled a prerequisite for. |
21:04.28 | nevyn | simple example |
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21:04.42 | nevyn | in the usb section there's parallell port USB support |
21:04.55 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, its ok |
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21:04.57 | slooth | nevyn, yeah, I know. I saw the "DEPENDS ON" ... but it turned out to be dependency hell |
21:05.03 | nevyn | it's not enabled if parallel support in the basic sytem devices is off |
21:05.04 | slooth | nevyn, so I gave up |
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21:05.29 | nevyn | slooth: so editing .config wouldn't have made this better. |
21:06.03 | slooth | nevyn, if you knew what precisely is needed, it would, but it was too complicated and pointless to do manually. |
21:06.14 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: how are you strarting mysql? |
21:06.40 | nevyn | slooth: config2 exists to make sure .config is a possible configuration |
21:06.49 | unholycrab | <PROTECTED> |
21:06.55 | unholycrab | and apt-get remove ttf-bitstream-vera installs ttf-dejavu-core |
21:07.00 | unholycrab | nooooo |
21:07.02 | unholycrab | make it stop |
21:07.11 | slooth | nevyn, what's config2? |
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21:07.15 | nevyn | I sortof wish there was a "enable this and everything it requires" rather than the current go find it. |
21:07.17 | jelly-home | unholycrab: remove both in the same command line. |
21:07.24 | slooth | nevyn, yeah precisely |
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21:08.00 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Does mysqladmin debug dump anything useful? |
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21:08.05 | nevyn | slooth: the system that generates and parses .config |
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21:08.20 | nevyn | so it's part of the kernel |
21:08.24 | unholycrab | jelly-home: it installs whichever package is not installed at the time, when i do that |
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21:08.40 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, with /etc/init.d/mysql start, and I dont know how to do the dump |
21:08.43 | jelly-home | unholycrab: pastebin the complete command line and the whole output. |
21:09.17 | jelly-home | unholycrab: I meant: apt-get remove ttf-dejavu-core ttf-bitstream-vera |
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21:09.31 | nevyn | it seems to have been superceeded by Kcfg tho |
21:09.37 | unholycrab | jelly-home: yep |
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21:10.33 | unholycrab | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0Z6VKYe6 |
21:10.58 | jelly-home | unholycrab: that's not the command I suggested |
21:11.08 | unholycrab | jelly-home: what is the command yous uggested |
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21:11.26 | unholycrab | oh i see |
21:11.28 | unholycrab | different packages |
21:11.55 | jelly-home | unholycrab: don't sudo when you're already root. |
21:11.57 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: mysqladmin debug |
21:12.48 | nevyn | slooth: all that said... "DEPENDS_ON" means you can search back up the dependancies |
21:12.57 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, did you see the pasebin? mysql never starts so mysqladmin debug fails with cant connect |
21:12.59 | nevyn | because menuconfig will let you search by config option |
21:13.16 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Ah, of course. |
21:13.18 | nevyn | gtg to work. |
21:13.24 | unholycrab | jelly-home: looks like when i add more packages to the remove command, it finds other fonts to install |
21:13.32 | unholycrab | and the remove command just gets longer |
21:13.39 | slooth | nevyn, thanks man. See you around |
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21:14.08 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Make sure the log is enabled in my.cnf, and you might want to enable log-error = /var/log/mysqld.log |
21:14.08 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, the problem is I cant figure out why it thinks the port is tied up |
21:14.25 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: I presume you've rebooted? |
21:14.29 | jelly-home | unholycrab: it will be out of options at some point, and you'll find the package which depends on (any one of) the fonts |
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21:15.06 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, the second one already is enabled, not sure what line is the first, but the mysql log is included in my pastebin |
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21:15.24 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, reboot - yes many times |
21:15.26 | jelly-home | unholycrab: you may try running "aptitude why ttf-bitstream-vera" or whichever is installed at present |
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21:15.43 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: log = /var/log/mysqld.log |
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21:16.05 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Try restarting mysql instead of just starting. THat might clean up whatever is causing the problem. |
21:16.25 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, yes, that one is included in the pastebin (mysql.log) |
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21:17.07 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, restarting also fails |
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21:17.10 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: So you have both log = and log-error = |
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21:20.19 | unholycrab | nice jelly-home |
21:20.24 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, cant find "log-error" in config |
21:20.38 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: You add it. |
21:20.49 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: THere are a bunch of options that aren't in the comments. |
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21:21.00 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Trying to find the debug option... |
21:21.43 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, ok, thanks for your help.. the mysql channel already gave up on me |
21:23.16 | red-lichtie | Assuming that I know the issues associated with testing (jessie) regarding security patches, etc., but I would really like to have the ownCloud integration that Gnome 3.8 offers. Is it stable enough for normal desktop usage ? |
21:23.43 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: You might try log-level = info |
21:24.20 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql-cluster-manager/1.2/en/mcm-using-mcmd.html#option_mcmd_log-level |
21:24.20 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, in my.conf? |
21:24.20 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Yes. |
21:24.50 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: You will want to turn this all back off when you get it fixed, it's a pretty harsh performance hit. |
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21:27.54 | acu | how can I see only modules installed - for apache for example - aptitude search apache2 what ? |
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21:30.20 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: I don't know if log_warnings = 1 would add any info. |
21:30.43 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, so I need to add log-level=warning? or log-level=3 |
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21:31.33 | BrazierCustoms | this is so frustrating, I have been staring at this for 3 days now |
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21:32.01 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: info is the highest level of logging, I'd go with that. |
21:32.16 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: I don't know the difference between that and log_warning. |
21:32.29 | foetus | ^^list installed packages: cat /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep -B2 'install ok installed' | grep 'Package:' | cut -d' ' -f2 | sort | less |
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21:33.01 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, the link you sent me specifies log-level=warning |
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21:34.44 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Yeah, I see that. Info is usually more verbose, but wth - try either/both. |
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21:36.12 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, im not sure what the other option is |
21:36.37 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, I just trew out the =3 as an axample/guess |
21:37.41 | unholycrab | dondelelcaro: there was an apt-cacher proxy set up |
21:37.51 | unholycrab | and that was causing the failure |
21:37.54 | sadbox | BrazierCustoms: I may have missed it... did you check to see which port it's listening on + check netstat to see what process has already bound to that port? |
21:38.19 | sadbox | (assuming you still have that cannot-bind-to-port error) |
21:38.25 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, yes, its 3306, and I dont have any listening ports |
21:39.19 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, http://pastebin.com/ZnhbR7RZ |
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21:40.53 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, adding that to the config gave me nothing more than I already have |
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21:41.08 | dondelelcaro | unholycrab: yerp; not surprising. |
21:41.31 | sadbox | BrazierCustoms: You will need to use netstat -a, I think plain netstat just shows current active connections |
21:41.47 | mumpitze1 | netstat -anp|grep 3306 |
21:41.52 | mumpitze1 | and you must run it as root |
21:42.10 | sadbox | or, probably, netstat -natp or something |
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21:42.52 | BrazierCustoms | mumpitze1, no result |
21:43.10 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, no result |
21:43.15 | sadbox | did you run it as root? |
21:43.19 | BrazierCustoms | yes |
21:43.22 | sadbox | Hrm |
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21:43.51 | Woet | I just got the e-mail "[SECURITY] [DSA 2802-1] nginx security update" |
21:43.54 | sadbox | Is your bind-address set correctly? |
21:43.58 | Woet | but apt-get update / apt-get upgrade does not update it |
21:44.05 | BrazierCustoms | bind = 0.0.0.0 |
21:44.11 | Woet | is this because mirrors.kernel.org is out of date? |
21:45.39 | sadbox | BrazierCustoms: bind or bind-address? |
21:45.56 | sadbox | (if it matters? my mysql-foo is running out =P) |
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21:47.48 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, jhutchins_wk, here is config http://pastebin.com/peH8dEWt |
21:47.59 | sadbox | Or, looking at those logs again, check permissions or something for the /var/run/mysqld/ directory |
21:48.02 | BrazierCustoms | maybe you will see something |
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21:48.39 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, what permissions should I expect? |
21:49.17 | sadbox | drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql root 80 Nov 21 13:44 /var/run/mysqld |
21:49.20 | BrazierCustoms | drwxr-xr-x 2 mysql root 4096 Nov 21 18:49 mysqld |
21:49.24 | sadbox | is what I see locally |
21:49.26 | sadbox | yep |
21:49.48 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, rrrrrr im pulling my hair out |
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21:50.45 | sadbox | what's in the directory? Maybe it isn't deleting the lock file or something |
21:50.55 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, empty |
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21:51.13 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, what if I use another port just to see if it still fails |
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21:51.42 | BrazierCustoms | sadbox, what is an unlikely port to be used |
21:52.13 | red-lichtie | BrazierCustoms: Just out of the blue, but is mysqld running? |
21:52.18 | sadbox | Well, if netstat isn't showing 3306, that shouldn't be an issue (I don't think) |
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21:53.09 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, no |
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21:53.23 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, fails to start, port/address in use |
21:53.27 | red-lichtie | Then you won't have a socket to connect to |
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21:53.52 | red-lichtie | missed seomthing I think |
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21:55.37 | red-lichtie | BrazierCustoms: What does "netstat -at" show? |
21:55.42 | BrazierCustoms | nothing |
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21:56.23 | red-lichtie | Are you at the machine or connected remotely? |
21:56.39 | red-lichtie | Is networking even started / configured? |
21:56.45 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, http://pastebin.com/ZnhbR7RZ |
21:57.23 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, i am remote, but it is a vserver, I am actually ssh into the parent server |
21:57.43 | BrazierCustoms | it is a vserver kernal |
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21:57.48 | BrazierCustoms | kernel |
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21:58.13 | red-lichtie | the parent won't see the ports on the guests will it? |
21:58.27 | red-lichtie | They have their own address / stack don't they? |
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21:59.56 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, no and this was a working system that quit when I did a restore |
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22:00.21 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, it does have its own addy, and its up, i mean I can ping google |
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22:02.47 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: wats the problem? |
22:02.57 | red-lichtie | BrazierCustoms: firewall / iptables / selinux ? |
22:03.15 | BrazierCustoms | not that I know |
22:03.29 | BrazierCustoms | socom, gimmi 1 sec |
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22:04.02 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: You could always try my all-purpose hail mary: shutdown -Fr now |
22:04.28 | socomm | jhutchins_wk: the old windows aproach :^/ |
22:04.31 | BrazierCustoms | jhutchins_wk, huh? |
22:04.52 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: he said restart your guest VM |
22:04.52 | BrazierCustoms | btw, I posted the wrong my.conf earlier its this one http://pastebin.com/KzMhg7Mq |
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22:05.53 | Cylta | how to take a screenshot? |
22:06.03 | socomm | Cylta: be more specific |
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22:06.43 | BrazierCustoms | its been restarted many times, and its technically not a VM, it is a vserver in a debian machine with a vservers kernal ,its basically like a vm that runs on the same kernal but somewhat restricted.. |
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22:06.59 | red-lichtie | BrazierCustoms: Do you have any other instances running mysql ? Telling them to bind to 0.0.0.0 takes 3306 on all addresses! |
22:07.26 | BrazierCustoms | only on the main server |
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22:08.17 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, if it was, wouldnt mysql -p connect to it? |
22:08.23 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: netstat -tulpn | grep 3306 |
22:08.50 | BrazierCustoms | socom, no result |
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22:09.02 | red-lichtie | BrazierCustoms: not if the sock is in another directory/configuration |
22:09.23 | BrazierCustoms | socom, to catch you up-- http://pastebin.com/ZnhbR7RZ |
22:09.34 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, hmm |
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22:10.19 | BrazierCustoms | red-lichtie, the parent server has mysql on 3306, but it never conflicted before.. |
22:10.30 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: bind-address = 0.0.0.0 -- your my.cnf |
22:10.40 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: does netstat -tulpn work at all, inside a vserver container? |
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22:11.15 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, providenceindustrial:/# netstat -tulpn |
22:11.15 | BrazierCustoms | Active Internet connections (only servers) |
22:11.15 | BrazierCustoms | Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name |
22:11.25 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: you may want to change that bind-address |
22:11.28 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, BUT THATS IT |
22:11.32 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: "no" |
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22:11.45 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, no? |
22:11.53 | red-lichtie | BrazierCustoms: mysql -h vserverhost -p |
22:12.03 | jelly-home | it obviously does not work as intended |
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22:12.12 | BarackObama_MS | Hi folks. |
22:12.15 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, why? |
22:12.25 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: 'netstat -tulnp' should return a few entries |
22:12.31 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: crippled vps environment is crippled |
22:12.46 | BrazierCustoms | i'm lost |
22:13.16 | jelly-home | (it's just how vserver works, apparently) |
22:13.16 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: one question, can you run any other network daemons on your vps besides mysql? maybe sshd |
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22:14.00 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: I'm thinking your vps network config might not be working fully |
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22:14.06 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, dont have ssh |
22:14.27 | jhutchins_wk | BrazierCustoms: Sorry, work irl. -F causes it to check the disks. |
22:14.39 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: can you install telnet and/or netcat-traditional, and try connecting to localhost:3306 manually? |
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22:14.52 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, let me see |
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22:15.33 | BrazierCustoms | rrr no, i cant install anything.. E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing. |
22:15.45 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: mkdir that |
22:16.08 | socomm | 'mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial' |
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22:16.38 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, omg you fixed that :) |
22:16.40 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: which debian release is the container supposed to be, anyway |
22:17.09 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: that was jelly-home's idea :^/ |
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22:18.47 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, i'm not sure, it wont tell me, but mysql is 5.0.?? (lenny) |
22:19.26 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, your right, thanks jelly-home ,i got alot of fails on apt-get update tho |
22:19.30 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: what does dpkg -l libc6 dpkg base-files mysql-server\* say |
22:19.59 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: while you're pastebinning that, also add output of "apt-cache policy" |
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22:22.59 | mads- | I just installed the new Debian. When did the unrar(-nonfree) get removed? The unrar-free seems to be balls at unpacking files which are split across several rar files |
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22:23.08 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, http://pastebin.com/g45L9DJH |
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22:23.40 | jelly-home | that's lenny alright |
22:24.02 | red-lichtie | "iF mysql-server-5.0" F = bad install |
22:24.09 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: you'll have to fix your /etc/apt/sources.list, |
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22:24.19 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell BrazierCustoms -about lenny sources.list |
22:24.20 | themill | mads-: unrar is in non-free and is still there |
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22:24.27 | themill | dpkg: tell mads- about non-free sources |
22:24.47 | jelly-home | rar is also there and capable of uncompressing its own stuff |
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22:26.07 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, ok hang on |
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22:26.35 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, how does one jus tknow all this crap :P |
22:27.04 | jelly-home | years of toil and trouble |
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22:27.18 | dancus | hi |
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22:28.22 | mads- | themill, thank god :) thanks. Why would they include the free one when it works like balls though? |
22:28.51 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, can I just #comment out the originals? |
22:29.31 | themill | mads-: it works for some archives just fine. I vaguely recall a discussion a couple of months ago about changing this |
22:29.45 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: sure, but they will not ever work again, ever |
22:30.03 | BrazierCustoms | ok |
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22:30.13 | jhutchins_wk | mads-: As long as there IS a free utility, it should be included for people who feel the need to stick to free software. |
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22:30.50 | mumpitze1 | jhutchins_wk: less and less usefulness with winrar 5. last it could unpack was 3 or 2 |
22:30.59 | jelly-home | jhutchins_wk: but no multi-volume warez work with it!!!1 |
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22:35.41 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, I got a couple KEYEXPIRED errors says "You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" but I got the error during apt-get update |
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22:38.03 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: yeah, unfortunately I don't know if there's a way to fix those (apart from moving the clock back), so you'll have to work with apt as if the sources are untrusted |
22:38.26 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, so just ignore the error? |
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22:38.50 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, oh its just a warning? |
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22:39.50 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, crap tried to install ssh and got all kinds of probs |
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22:40.24 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, looks like they are for mysql.. |
22:41.43 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, nope, cant set locale blah blah falling back... mysql-server-5.0 |
22:41.43 | BrazierCustoms | bash: mysql-server-5.0: command not found |
22:41.43 | BrazierCustoms | providenceindustrial:/# |
22:41.51 | BrazierCustoms | oops |
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22:43.26 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, it did install ssh though, and it didnt error when it started.. |
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22:43.34 | jelly-home | that one fails because the script tries to start mysqld and fails much like the manual start does |
22:43.51 | jelly-home | but please install telnet and try "telnet localhost 3306" |
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22:44.14 | n0c | dpkg -L xen-utils-4.1 | grep 'bin' |
22:44.15 | dpkg | No packages found matching xen-utils-4.1 | grep 'bin' |
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22:44.19 | n0c | instead of something like this, can i show a packages component TOOLS? |
22:44.23 | n0c | to discover the ways a packages tools can be used, without reading docs |
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22:45.52 | petn-randall | n0c: I don't understand your question. |
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22:48.12 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, looks like it connected |
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22:48.30 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, so the port is not the problem |
22:48.38 | usrnix1 | How can I force a package to reinstall completely without undoing deps? I installed iceweasel experimental version, put my repo back to beta but a dist-upgrade didn't replace the experimental |
22:48.49 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: that means some service is already running! |
22:49.05 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: ps -fe |grep mysql ? |
22:49.08 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, I dont understand |
22:49.14 | BrazierCustoms | ok |
22:49.35 | zykotick9 | usrnix1: apt doesn't downgrade... |
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22:50.06 | jordanm | zykotick9: apt-get install iceweasel=<version> |
22:50.07 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: it means there's a process already listening on tcp port 3306, localhost, so mysqld can't bind and listen there any more |
22:50.11 | jordanm | usrnix1: ^ |
22:50.17 | usrnix1 | removing iceweasel makes aptitude want to remove all of gnome too for some reason... |
22:50.28 | n0c | petn-randall: given an arbitrary package, I want to know what all the installed tools are and a summary of their purpose |
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22:50.41 | n0c | kind of like what's in a description field, generally, for a single-tool package |
22:50.43 | BarackObama911 | Hi folks. |
22:50.51 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, only result useless: root 21907 17252 0 22:49 pts/0 00:00:00 grep mysql |
22:51.08 | n0c | Description: XEN administrative tools The userspace tools to manage a system virtualized through the XEN virtual machine monitor. |
22:51.19 | n0c | just looking for more verbosity / detail on that &^ |
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22:52.20 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: alright. What about lsof -ni4 |egrep '3306|mysql' ? |
22:53.09 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home,bash: lsof: command not found |
22:53.20 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: install it! :-) |
22:53.26 | BrazierCustoms | lol |
22:53.53 | jelly-home | we have a factoid for that. |
22:55.06 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, i'm installing it, but just so you know this is a bare min vserver |
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22:55.47 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, lsof -ni4 by itself returns nothing |
22:55.51 | n0c | is there a keyboard shortcut for 'cancel pending actions' in aptitude? I've discovered that `L` will mark a package for reinstallation, despite not being available / listed under the CTRL-T menu items for package |
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22:55.57 | jelly-home | even a bare minimum ought to be debuggable in case of problems |
22:56.49 | BrazierCustoms | i know |
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22:57.20 | BrazierCustoms | we have NEVER had a single problem out of it |
22:57.38 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: never? |
22:57.47 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, until now |
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22:58.07 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: you should watch more james bond films |
22:58.16 | socomm | (._. ) |
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23:01.20 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, i hear ya |
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23:05.11 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: anyway, I'll be off. The idea is to figure out which running process is listening on tcp/3306, killing it and letting the installation of mysql-server-5.0 finish (with dpkg --configure -a) |
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23:05.51 | jelly-home | perhaps lsof will be able to shed some light. I don't know how broken a vserver container environment is. |
23:05.52 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, will that overwrite config? |
23:06.00 | petn-randall | n0c: If you want an high-level view, it's usuallyi easiest to check out /usr/share/doc/<package>/README, then look through the man pages. |
23:06.00 | jelly-home | unlikely |
23:06.22 | jelly-home | BrazierCustoms: have backups, or make them. |
23:06.25 | petn-randall | n0c: Though it won't get much shorter than 'dpkg -L <package> | grep bin' to retrieve a list of tools. |
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23:06.54 | BrazierCustoms | this is a backup, it was a working backup, I cant understand why its not working |
23:07.34 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, and if you cant figure it out, mysql channel gave up, I know I'm doomed |
23:07.48 | jelly-home | DOOMED |
23:08.31 | jelly-home | I'll be back tomorrow, and there are other, smarter people in here, too |
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23:10.50 | FunkyBob | hmm... after some recent updates, my mousepad has changed to two-finger scrolling [never realised it was software controlled] ... and my laptop no longer suspends when I close the lid, nor has an option to suspend |
23:10.55 | FunkyBob | [gnome] |
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23:12.07 | socomm | mousepad? thats the first thing I disable on a laptop |
23:12.37 | FunkyBob | how nice for y ou. |
23:12.52 | jelly-home | not everyone is a trackpoint lover |
23:13.02 | FunkyBob | though I find GUIs hard to use without a way to control the pointer... |
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23:13.29 | FunkyBob | my main concern is that my laptop no longer suspends |
23:13.32 | socomm | jelly-home: external trackball mouse |
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23:13.47 | FunkyBob | socomm: very impractical when trying to work on a busy train |
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23:13.59 | socomm | FunkyBob: alot more practical than you think |
23:14.08 | linu | notte |
23:14.12 | FunkyBob | not when I tried it. |
23:14.19 | BrazierCustoms | jelly-home, thanks for your help. I wish I could find some smarter people |
23:14.22 | BrazierCustoms | :P |
23:14.44 | socomm | so does my boss :^( |
23:15.01 | jelly-home | you might have to wave some (more) $$$ around |
23:15.24 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: get me ssh access, I'll help you fix this |
23:15.50 | socomm | I generally charge around 50 USD an hour, but if you get me a bottle a vodka we can call it even |
23:16.02 | BrazierCustoms | lol |
23:16.05 | BrazierCustoms | sounds good |
23:17.16 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, how do I get over the feeling of risk in giving ssh access? |
23:17.52 | BrazierCustoms | lol send me an image of your ID :P |
23:18.35 | Gregor2 | hi |
23:18.55 | jelly-home | make him sign an NDA! |
23:18.59 | BrazierCustoms | and I wil lbe honest, I have in the past offered donations to people who have helped me, nobody has ever accepted. |
23:19.01 | jelly-home | disappears |
23:19.24 | socomm | BrazierCustoms: we work for karma |
23:19.54 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, me too! |
23:20.18 | socomm | unfortunately my landlord doesn't honor karma at face value |
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23:22.00 | midnightmagic | Hello! I am trying to generate a non-standard bitsize openssh key blacklist because the openssh-blacklist(-extras) do not cover the keysizes of some of my old keys and I never realised this until recently. Can someone please tell me if there is a programmatic tool which doesn't require a vulnerable version of openssl installed in the host OS, to build the blacklist? |
23:22.19 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, he will regret that when it gets bad and comes around to bite em |
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23:22.50 | fruitFly | how do dual boot debian beside windows 8 GPT, i've disabled fast startup and secure boot, but what do I do next? |
23:23.12 | fruitFly | how does the install differ from a traditional MBR install? do I have to use UEFI? |
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23:23.27 | socomm | fruitFly: Ask Jeeves |
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23:24.15 | Luke-Jr | Is there a way to have Debian download every package installed and verify it for consistency? |
23:24.28 | Gregor2 | what do i have to type if i want to unpack 6000 zip achives? |
23:24.32 | Luke-Jr | eg, if I'm checking if a server has been compromised (with so far no evidence it has) |
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23:24.44 | Luke-Jr | Gregor2: for zip in *.zip; do unzip "$f"; done |
23:24.47 | Luke-Jr | err |
23:24.49 | Luke-Jr | Gregor2: for zip in *.zip; do unzip "$zip"; done |
23:25.53 | Gregor2 | i have to type unzip /path |
23:25.56 | Gregor2 | ? |
23:26.12 | socomm | Gregor2: read the documentation |
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23:26.49 | midnightmagic | Hi Luke-Jr. I think debsums might sort-of be what you're looking for. |
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23:26.58 | socomm | Luke-Jr: wouldn't that be kinda hard? you'd have to run cheksums against all the binaries installed on your machine |
23:27.01 | themill | Luke-Jr: debsums can do this for you, providing you trust the sums on disk. But would you trust the output of any tool that is on the disk? |
23:27.09 | Luke-Jr | socomm: exactly? |
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23:27.31 | Luke-Jr | themill: considering the lack of evidence of compromise right now, probably |
23:27.53 | Luke-Jr | debsums just uses a list? any way to check that list against the actual data? |
23:27.57 | socomm | Luke-Jr: reinstall os, recover from back-up |
23:28.37 | Luke-Jr | socomm: if I find evidence of compromise, yes .. but I haven't yet |
23:28.38 | socomm | If you've reason to suspect/believe you've been compromised. |
23:29.03 | socomm | Luke-Jr: why do you suspect you've been compromised? |
23:29.08 | Luke-Jr | socomm: someone with root had his SSH key compromised. other systems that were accessed have had log traces, but not this server. |
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23:30.20 | Luke-Jr | long-term we will probably rebuild this server just to be safe, but in the meantime, it'd be nice to know if it's urgent |
23:30.38 | socomm | Luke-Jr: its never urgent, until it breaks :^) |
23:30.47 | Spec | Luke-Jr: i'd just rebuild it. |
23:31.01 | Spec | Luke-Jr: are the logs local or remote? |
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23:31.11 | Luke-Jr | most of the servers had local logs |
23:31.16 | Spec | well, local logs are useless. |
23:31.33 | Luke-Jr | this is one of hundreds |
23:31.37 | Luke-Jr | rebuilding them all will take time |
23:31.41 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, until it breaks... you said that right. |
23:31.49 | Spec | is okay, you use puppet and virtual machines and can rebuild it all in just a few clicks of buttons, yes? |
23:31.59 | Luke-Jr | I wish |
23:32.00 | Spec | :D |
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23:32.36 | socomm | Luke-Jr: I'm not the smartest person here, but you should spend some time looking at configuration management platform -- chef, puppet, salt |
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23:33.26 | themill | Luke-Jr: "aptitude install debsums; aptitude reinstall ~i; debsums -a -s" but note that debsums is really a "is my filesystem stuffed" or a "did I accidentally overwrite /usr/bin/foo" tool. You're still trusting that debsums and associated md5 routines haven't been compromised. |
23:33.46 | Luke-Jr | themill: better than nothing |
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23:34.14 | themill | if you know you can trust its output, you know you aren't compromised ;) |
23:34.20 | Luke-Jr | themill: debsums -s is undocumented? |
23:34.38 | themill | no |
23:34.51 | themill | -s, --silent Only report errors. |
23:34.58 | Luke-Jr | considering that all the known-compromised machines were identified by `last` showing the Russian IP, I'm *pretty sure* this is safe, but want to make sure |
23:35.13 | Luke-Jr | hm, wonder how I missed that |
23:35.54 | socomm | Luke-Jr: how many of your machines are accessible from public IP? :^/ |
23:35.55 | Luke-Jr | E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the base-files package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. |
23:36.14 | themill | dpkg: tell Luke-Jr about debsums |
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23:36.22 | themill | Luke-Jr: I take it that this is a squeeze machine? |
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23:36.41 | Luke-Jr | 7.0 |
23:36.42 | socomm | Generally you should' have to expose machines to the public internet. |
23:37.02 | Luke-Jr | then how will I access them? ;) |
23:37.09 | socomm | Luke-Jr: VPN |
23:37.12 | themill | Luke-Jr: hmm... dpkg should automatically generate any missing sums for you, but aptitude reinstall `debsums -l` |
23:37.24 | socomm | Luke-Jr: or if you've http servers put them behind a load balancer |
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23:37.48 | Luke-Jr | debsums -l is always empty list :/ |
23:38.20 | themill | Luke-Jr: what generated that E: output? |
23:38.30 | Luke-Jr | aptitude reinstall '~i' |
23:38.35 | themill | oh. |
23:39.12 | themill | sounds like /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.list is missing |
23:39.29 | Luke-Jr | nope |
23:39.43 | themill | perhaps you could pastebin the entire output |
23:39.56 | themill | what version of base-files is it trying to install? |
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23:40.10 | Luke-Jr | http://codepad.org/xrUb7hdn |
23:40.37 | themill | (apt-cache policy base-files) |
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23:41.09 | Luke-Jr | http://codepad.org/0XhZATSf |
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23:43.05 | acu | my /etc/resolv.conf gets dns-nameserver as my LAN modem IP and blocks name resolution - I have changed the /etc/resolv.conf but it gets modified - is any way to prevent that ? |
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23:44.43 | themill | Luke-Jr: yeah so apt is trying to reinstall the package from an older version of wheezy. You... umm... might like to keep up to date with updates on these machines too ;) I guess an aptitude ugprade is going to want to do a lot more, |
23:45.22 | themill | acu: either fix the modem or tell your dhcp client to ignore the modem's dns data. For the latter, /msg dpkg override dns |
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23:48.57 | thinkUland | Hello, Is it possible in some way to run dpkg-reconfigure in batch mode? I want to set keyboard settings in a script. |
23:49.54 | themill | thinkUland: sure -- you give the data to debconf in advance and then tell dpkg-reconfigure not to ask any questions of the user by running it in noninteractive mode. /msg dpkg debconf-set-selections |
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23:52.05 | thinkUland | Thanks very much, it seems like it is exactly what I need. |
23:52.39 | BrazierCustoms | socomm, i would probably give access. |
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23:57.01 | themill | thinkUland: note that you can answer these questions in the same way by preseeding the answers to the installer -- no need to do it afterwards in a script |
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