| 00:00.44 | ggherdov | hello. What is the recommended reading to learn how to write debian packages ? |
| 00:02.28 | Dan39 | if you have to ask, then you probably shouldnt :P |
| 00:02.50 | somiaj | riceAndBeans_: did you check dmesg, does it look like the firmware loaded now? |
| 00:03.08 | somiaj | riceAndBeans_: if so is it just a matter of configuring the network? Or does dmesg still say missing firmware. |
| 00:03.24 | somiaj | ggherdov: look up the debian new matianers guide |
| 00:03.41 | ggherdov | somiaj: thanks |
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| 00:04.41 | somiaj | getting use to what makes up a debian package is the first step. Compling some from basic code isn't to hard for a simple case with dh (debian helper) |
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| 00:08.22 | riceAndBeans_ | somiaj: dmessage?n i looked in cmd and it seem like it load... said something about "intarfms" or something |
| 00:08.25 | somiaj | riceAndBeans_: have you rebooted since you isntalled the firmware. You don't ahve to reboot if you want to remove and reload the wifi module instead |
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| 00:08.45 | riceAndBeans_ | somiaj: i did reboot |
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| 00:09.22 | somiaj | riceAndBeans_: well look though dmesg, try to find any info you can about your wifi card, 'dmesg | grep firmware' or 'dmesg | grep wlan0' may help |
| 00:10.19 | riceAndBeans_ | i thought my firmware would behere? |
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| 00:10.22 | riceAndBeans_ | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-realtek |
| 00:10.44 | riceAndBeans_ | missing "rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin" http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-realtek |
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| 00:13.13 | deepa | I can't seem to find what changes it, but I managed to get my postfix to send as localhost.mydomainhere.com |
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| 00:42.14 | somiaj | riceAndBeans_: ls /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin |
| 00:42.24 | somiaj | riceAndBeans_: check to see if the firmware is actually there |
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| 00:58.57 | jvelasquez | after I upgraded my unstable desktop today, my gnome desktop environment is like very different than it was. I don't have the cool active corners behavior I've been used to for the last year or so. Any ideas? |
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| 01:04.22 | somiaj | was their a major change in the gnome version? Could it be your gnome theme is not compadable or isn't loading correctly. Did you go try to reset your theme |
| 01:04.34 | googlah | hi |
| 01:04.43 | googlah | anyone from zurich here? |
| 01:04.49 | somiaj | jvelasquez: unstable is always changing, I would figure out what that feature is called, and see how to enable it |
| 01:05.04 | somiaj | googlah: do you have a debian question? |
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| 01:05.52 | googlah | somiaj: yes, but still want to know anyone from zurich. i've used debian for eleven years. |
| 01:06.06 | jvelasquez | somiaj, thanks but, I know all that, I just havn't been able to find out what all that desktop feature stuff was called in the last year. |
| 01:06.12 | somiaj | googlah: thisn't isn't the channel for social chat, if you don't have a support question you may want #debian-offtopic |
| 01:06.21 | jvelasquez | googlah, ok. have you used the desktop gnome stuffs in the last year then? |
| 01:06.41 | somiaj | jvelasquez: the bts is sometimes a useful place to look for info, see if anyone else has the same issue as you did and reported it |
| 01:06.49 | googlah | somiaj: ok man |
| 01:06.52 | googlah | peace |
| 01:07.03 | jvelasquez | bts? |
| 01:07.13 | googlah | *joining #debian-offtopic |
| 01:07.15 | somiaj | !bts |
| 01:07.16 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 01:07.25 | jvelasquez | man. it can't be a bug. |
| 01:07.54 | jvelasquez | there must be someone in here who uses unstable gnome desktop in the last year. |
| 01:07.56 | somiaj | something any good sid user should nkow about. Well it is a bug if the updaed pacckage disab. I don't use gnome so I have no clue |
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| 01:11.18 | somiaj | jvelasquez: is the cool active corners effect a ripple like effect? |
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| 01:13.00 | jvelasquez | somiaj, no. it's like windows 8, you move the mouse to a corner, and the whole interface changes. Top right gives login related things, top left gives Applications and virtual Desktops. Bottom right gives notifications, prompts, statuses. |
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| 01:13.25 | jvelasquez | somiaj, somebody in gnome said it's probably in Fallback mode due to video driver problem. |
| 01:13.26 | somiaj | from what I see it is configurable in your gnome extensions. |
| 01:13.41 | somiaj | yea if it looks way different that is actually something I forgot about |
| 01:13.48 | somiaj | you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what drivers were loaded |
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| 01:16.55 | cloak3d | is debian a good linux distro to start with for beginners? |
| 01:17.10 | dvs | heh |
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| 01:17.49 | zykotick9 | cloak3d: if you are willing to read man pages, then yes ;) good luck. |
| 01:18.31 | cloak3d | well since I am studying pentesting I need to become more familiar with linux |
| 01:18.41 | cloak3d | was just looking for a good distro i could start with and learn |
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| 01:20.25 | somiaj | cloak3d: debian stable is nice in the fact that once you get the basics down everything works well together and is fairly well tested |
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| 01:21.13 | somiaj | cloak3d: there are some slight issues with getting some hardware to work (sometimes due to non-free firmware, others due to lack of support in linux). And the packages are slight 'old' to some peoples standards. but that is the advantage of a nice stable and frozen system. Things have had time to be tested and fixed. |
| 01:21.22 | leslie_ | cloak3d, the differenced |
| 01:22.13 | somiaj | cloak3d: but it is well documented. Each distro kinda does things in their own way. I think the biggest issue I've seen for begininers is the install of debian. |
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| 01:23.22 | leslie_ | cloak3d, the differences between the various linux distros are generally not near as significant as the differences between Apple and Microsoft offerings. applications matter more than operating system. |
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| 01:24.17 | somiaj | yea in the end the biggest difference is version of software avialable via the distros repos and the core policy and software management tools. |
| 01:24.26 | cloak3d | somiaj: thank you for the info. Yes I was having trouble figuring it out because I want to learn more about linux but didn't know if ubuntu or linux mint would be to easy to where I would not learn as much |
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| 01:26.16 | somiaj | cloak3d: I have been happy with debian for 10+ years and haven't used other debian based distros. If you understand the debian frozen system it works really nice once you get it up and running. There are just some common snags with the install due to non-free (DSFG policy) and the the software is a few years old so bleeding edge hardware is a pain. |
| 01:26.45 | Gel | !bot @help |
| 01:27.09 | googlah | somiaj: agree'd. been also for +10 years. debian is not bleeding edge. |
| 01:27.22 | googlah | but it's stable as hell |
| 01:27.38 | googlah | nothing will freeze |
| 01:28.18 | googlah | gonna get another beer |
| 01:28.21 | googlah | BRB LADS |
| 01:29.03 | module000 | bleeding edge hardware is like bleeding edge OS's...you dont' use them in production, unless you like bleeding edge job security. |
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| 01:29.29 | leslie_ | Isn't "bleeding edge" shorthand for "I want to rely on things that are known to be unreliable"? |
| 01:29.55 | module000 | leslie_: or "i want to rely on things that noone has relied on yet" |
| 01:30.06 | module000 | same thing i suppose :) |
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| 01:55.54 | acu | hello |
| 01:56.34 | obi1 | hi |
| 01:57.40 | acu | I have the weirdest situation - a virtual machine wheezy - it worked fine, from within the vmachine wheezy I can ping out to any ip or fqdn, I can ping to itself fine - however I CANNOT ping from outside that IP - in other words this machine cannot be accessed through IP address from outside, what should I do ? |
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| 01:59.11 | andrej | acu - check your iptables rules first :) |
| 01:59.41 | andrej | And it would be helpful to hear what virtualisation platform you're using, what OS it's on, and so forth |
| 02:00.32 | acu | andrej: I look like a newbie :) I run wheezy as host, kvm and wheezy as virtual machine |
| 02:01.12 | module000 | acu: are you using libvirt? |
| 02:01.30 | acu | everything worked fine for few months, and suddenly this happen |
| 02:01.39 | acu | yes I use libvirt |
| 02:01.57 | acu | module000, |
| 02:02.03 | module000 | acu: is your vm on the 'default' network? |
| 02:02.21 | acu | I have another vm similar to this, and it works (it is in the same host, same OS etc |
| 02:02.52 | module000 | acu: if you're using libvirt, the 'default' network is going to restrict incoming traffic through iptables - you should not be able to access it from the outside. your problem sounds like an iptables misconfiguration |
| 02:02.57 | acu | this vm is going though a bridge straight to internet |
| 02:03.30 | acu | module000, so you are talking about host IP tables ? |
| 02:03.34 | acu | or vm one ? |
| 02:03.57 | acu | the thing which threw me off is that another vm works fine |
| 02:04.00 | module000 | acu: both, a mistake in either one will cause this |
| 02:04.08 | module000 | acu: then you have a "working" example to compare from :) |
| 02:05.00 | module000 | acu: unless your bosses prevent you from doing so...start by disabling iptables on your guest while you troubleshoot this. then if it doens't work, you know for a fact it's the host settings |
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| 02:13.55 | Chrys0pras3 | hi, having some trouble installing debian with luks on lvm |
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| 02:14.23 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: Installer can do that for you. lvm on luks that is. |
| 02:15.10 | Chrys0pras3 | first time I tried to boot after using installer, it said there was no device at /dev/mapper/cryptroot |
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| 02:15.38 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: The guided install should work just fine, never had any issues with it. |
| 02:15.54 | Chrys0pras3 | didnt work |
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| 02:16.16 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: Didn't work as in gave you the error message from above? |
| 02:16.24 | Chrys0pras3 | yes |
| 02:16.40 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: Does it ask you for your passphrase? |
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| 02:18.06 | Chrys0pras3 | no password prompt |
| 02:18.25 | Chrys0pras3 | I later used a live cd to chroot and change ftab, cryptab, update-grub, update-initramfs |
| 02:19.11 | Chrys0pras3 | now it starts booting, but then stops: |
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| 02:19.27 | Chrys0pras3 | says, scanning sdb, no volumes found |
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| 02:20.04 | Chrys0pras3 | I think its not detecting the lvm |
| 02:20.16 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: So it asks you for your passphrase? |
| 02:20.36 | Chrys0pras3 | no, I have luks on lvm, so lvm is first |
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| 02:21.02 | Chrys0pras3 | s/sdb/hd2 |
| 02:22.03 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: What? |
| 02:22.18 | rudi_s | The installer doesn't do this by default, so you must've done that on your own. |
| 02:23.11 | Chrys0pras3 | I used advanced partitioning |
| 02:23.37 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: Well .. why do you want luks on lvm? |
| 02:23.50 | Chrys0pras3 | I have two hdds |
| 02:24.03 | Chrys0pras3 | other way around wouldnt work |
| 02:24.22 | rudi_s | 2 partitions? What do you do when one disk dies? |
| 02:24.37 | Chrys0pras3 | two hard drives |
| 02:24.39 | rudi_s | I'm not sure if the initramfs supports that by default. Try to assemble it by hand with a live cd and then look at the initramfs. |
| 02:24.51 | rudi_s | I meant create one partition per disk. |
| 02:25.14 | rudi_s | You can still combine the resulting luks devices with lvm if you want. |
| 02:26.32 | Chrys0pras3 | according to /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.Debian.gz it should be possible |
| 02:28.14 | mischief | friends, why does apt-get source libx11 not give a X.h? |
| 02:29.34 | acu | module000, OK, so first the IP tables in both guest and host are not showing anyrules of anytipe (if I do iptables -L - the vm which works, does not show |
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| 02:31.00 | Chrys0pras3 | rudi_s: here`s my grub.conf pastebin.com/Q78NbqU3 |
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| 02:31.27 | module000 | acu: if your guest is on a bridged interface, and neither host nor guest have iptables rules - you should be wide open. is the default policy ACCEPT for your INPUT and FORWARD chain? if yes - then something is broken and not working as intended |
| 02:31.44 | module000 | the liklihood of that is...very remote |
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| 02:33.17 | wo0f | how do i install, setting the network up manually?- as dhcp is not configuring my ipv6 addresses in /etc/network/interfaces :( |
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| 02:41.16 | rudi_s | Chrys0pras3: Sorry, can't really help there. Never tried the setup. Personally I'd just use luks as lowest layer and then add lvm on top. Striping over multiple disks works fine. |
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| 02:43.01 | wigums | hello to all |
| 02:44.03 | gnarface | wo0f: it didn't give you a chance to do it manually when you installed? try expert mode |
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| 02:46.54 | Chrys0pras3 | rudi_s: thanks np |
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| 03:09.36 | jeep | hi |
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| 03:14.47 | wigums | hellop jeep |
| 03:14.58 | dvs | hellops jeep |
| 03:15.16 | wigums | hello dvs |
| 03:15.23 | dvs | eh |
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| 03:23.20 | austeregrim | I really enjoy IRC... I get to see when everyone gets online, and when people go offline. |
| 03:23.32 | wigums | haha |
| 03:23.41 | austeregrim | IRC = Internet Reliability Console |
| 03:23.41 | wigums | right? |
| 03:24.21 | wigums | hey /j ##slackware and spam a mp3........now thats real fun |
| 03:24.32 | wigums | woohoo |
| 03:24.35 | austeregrim | lol |
| 03:25.25 | somiaj | points at #debian-offtopic |
| 03:25.25 | wigums | thats almost as much fun as.....golfing |
| 03:26.16 | austeregrim | somiaj, yes, because our topic is getting out of hand.. it's really annoying to everyone else chatting in here. |
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| 03:28.16 | wigums | yea, pretty intense convo in here |
| 03:28.34 | wigums | i may need to step away |
| 03:29.43 | wigums | you guys are hurting my sensitivities |
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| 03:30.59 | rgwu | is there a #debian-ontopic? |
| 03:31.13 | themill | austeregrim, wigums: do you have a debian user support question we can help you with? |
| 03:31.25 | wigums | im not new to linux, but i am to debian, will hexchat hit the repos soon? or has it already and im just that new? |
| 03:31.48 | themill | ,wnpp hexchat |
| 03:31.48 | wigums | so :P |
| 03:31.49 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/702075 in wnpp (open): «RFP: hexchat -- an IRC client based on XChat»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-03-02; last modified: 2013-07-29. |
| 03:31.54 | themill | wigums: perhaps |
| 03:32.33 | wigums | im not sure what that means |
| 03:32.45 | themill | !rfp |
| 03:32.46 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. |
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| 03:34.47 | wigums | you guys add new packages by having a user add a bug report?, im not trollin, that reads kinda strange, and to be honest id just build it myself..... |
| 03:35.25 | peterrooney | wigums: It may be viewed that having software not available in debian is a bug |
| 03:35.49 | themill | requesting the package indicates that someone thinks it would be a useful to have in debian |
| 03:35.52 | wigums | im sorry....how, whay is that a bug? |
| 03:36.12 | themill | everything in debian goes via the bts otherwise it gets lost |
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| 03:36.26 | peterrooney | wigums: it's a wishlist severity-level bug |
| 03:36.37 | wigums | interesting |
| 03:37.08 | peterrooney | believes no system is immune to perverse side effects |
| 03:37.45 | jeep | wigums, have you compiled it yourself yet ? |
| 03:37.46 | wigums | yea but to call the lack of software a bug is unusual to say the least |
| 03:38.15 | wigums | jeep, oh yes, im actually i packager for another project |
| 03:39.21 | wigums | i just started playing with debian recently as a "hobby" if you will |
| 03:39.30 | wigums | interesting |
| 03:39.55 | jeep | wigums, when i want programs not in the repos i usually compile/run them from ~/bin kind of thing .. works ok usually |
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| 03:40.55 | wigums | i can compile the program myself no issue, i guess im just wondering how to get into a debian repo |
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| 03:41.54 | wigums | as i said, i package for a linux distro |
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| 03:43.10 | wigums | i compile software all day long for fun, i sure dont get paid for it |
| 03:44.09 | jeep | oh im sure the website has how to become a package maintainer on it somewhere i made .debs for a guy before he just hosted them on his own website |
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| 03:44.44 | themill | dpkg: tell wigums about nmg |
| 03:44.53 | wigums | i dont want to become a packager for debian, i already do that for another project |
| 03:45.24 | gnarface | wigums: than skip over that part of the nmg |
| 03:45.42 | themill | wigums: that doesn't change that you want to make a package |
| 03:45.54 | gnarface | wigums: you probably want chapter 2 |
| 03:45.57 | wigums | i do not want to make a package |
| 03:46.05 | rgwu | lol |
| 03:46.19 | gnarface | wigums: well 2-4 |
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| 03:46.31 | wigums | i asked why hexchat wasnt already a package |
| 03:46.37 | gnarface | ah |
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| 03:48.07 | wigums | im a slacker, i can compile my own software, along with being a packager for ANOTHER distro |
| 03:48.23 | wigums | was just a curious question |
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| 03:49.52 | somiaj | wigums: the package needs a matainer to at least sponser it to get it into the debian repos. Preferably an active matainer, there are pelnty of orphaned packages in the debian repos already. |
| 03:50.02 | jeep | wigums, its a popularity contest sort of if lots of people like it ... or the developer is a debian user ect. ... or someone that loves the program is a developer .. it would be added faster |
| 03:50.44 | wigums | i see |
| 03:51.01 | wigums | much better answers, thank you both |
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| 03:53.54 | wigums | with the size of the debian user base im surprised i havent found it somewhere. just strikes me is all.... and again, not new to linux, not new to packaging...... |
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| 03:54.13 | wigums | anyway |
| 03:54.33 | wigums | my names wigums, i think, hello |
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| 03:56.58 | jeep | wigums, i never heard of it till you mentioned it |
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| 03:58.21 | wigums | well xchat is depricated.....someone else picked up the code and maintains it now |
| 03:58.29 | wigums | called hexchat |
| 03:58.40 | rgwu | that's not what the hexchat website says |
| 03:58.49 | wigums | its in almost all other distros repos except debians |
| 03:59.12 | themill | wigums: if someone cares, they'll do something about it? If you don't care, why are you still going on about it? |
| 03:59.13 | Vicissitude | debian chose not to add it to their repos in favour of the (promised) update to xchat |
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| 03:59.18 | rgwu | why do you care if you're already a package maintainer for "ANOTHER" distro as you claim? |
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| 04:00.23 | wigums | oh dear god |
| 04:00.54 | wigums | LAME |
| 04:01.14 | Vicissitude | fwiw, I built hexchat from its git sources and it works fine |
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| 04:02.52 | wigums | im sorry, i just thought with the multitude of software in debians repos that hexchat would have been in there by now, thats all |
| 04:03.07 | wigums | im new to debian, i run slackware |
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| 04:03.54 | wigums | im perfectly capable of building it on my own |
| 04:04.03 | rgwu | As you've stated 12 times already. |
| 04:04.12 | wigums | do all new users of debian get treated like this? |
| 04:04.55 | wigums | hard to imagine how you get so many users this way |
| 04:05.41 | themill | you might like to revisit the way your part of the conversation panned out before you throw around such comments |
| 04:06.45 | jeep | i thought we were all being nice |
| 04:07.24 | wigums | lol |
| 04:07.28 | wigums | wierd |
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| 04:08.07 | wigums | so new software gets added through bug reports eh? |
| 04:08.12 | wigums | gotcha |
| 04:08.13 | themill | you're looping |
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| 04:08.55 | themill | RFPs don't necessarily get answered. It requires a volunteer to want to do the work. |
| 04:09.43 | wigums | blah blah blah |
| 04:09.43 | jeep | wigums, if you already package it why not volunteer to package it? |
| 04:10.02 | jeep | *for debian |
| 04:10.12 | wigums | i would have, but ive never been treated so rude in my life |
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| 04:10.23 | rgwu | ever? really? |
| 04:10.24 | themill | wigums: I'm not sure what you think is going on here -- you ask questions, we answer them and then you tell us that you don't care. |
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| 04:10.39 | themill | wigums: then you seem surprised that we're a little put off by that experience. |
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| 04:12.09 | googlah | #debian-offtopic |
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| 04:13.02 | zmisc | Hello fellow debianites |
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| 04:31.44 | n0c | how can i simply 'replace' an installed version of linux-libc-dev with another? |
| 04:32.14 | somiaj | n0c: depends on what you actually want to do? You ust want to --reinstall that package? |
| 04:32.26 | n0c | error: linux-libc-dev:amd64 3.11.1-3 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with linux-libc-dev which has multiple installed instances |
| 04:32.37 | n0c | somiaj: a previous version is installed |
| 04:32.42 | n0c | also the :i386 version |
| 04:32.50 | somiaj | I dind't think any -dev packages had multiarch enabled |
| 04:32.53 | somiaj | what are you trying to build? |
| 04:32.56 | n0c | but i want to be using this one i just built as part of make deb-pkg |
| 04:33.05 | n0c | just want to install it |
| 04:33.11 | n0c | i had to add it for pipelight i believe |
| 04:33.16 | n0c | which doesn't work on testing anyway |
| 04:33.29 | somiaj | afiak you cannot have both :amd64 and :i368 -dev libaries installed at the same time |
| 04:33.44 | n0c | i might just remove it and add back the other stuff once it's installed again (build-essential, g++, etc) |
| 04:33.50 | somiaj | you can only do that with the actual lib. If you want a i386 build enviorment use a chroot which you can automate with pbuilder |
| 04:34.01 | n0c | i have both versions |
| 04:34.13 | somiaj | well you can --reinstall a package |
| 04:34.22 | n0c | i A linux-libc-dev - Linux support headers for userspace development |
| 04:34.26 | n0c | i A linux-libc-dev:i386 - Linux support headers for userspace development |
| 04:34.30 | n0c | hm |
| 04:34.30 | n0c | with dpkg ? |
| 04:34.43 | n0c | was hoping there was a --replace |
| 04:34.47 | n0c | but doesnt look like it |
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| 04:36.01 | somiaj | if you have the deb dpkg -i foo.deb will install that deb |
| 04:36.11 | somiaj | use apt if you need to download it |
| 04:36.18 | n0c | right |
| 04:36.26 | n0c | but that's when i get the afore-pasted error |
| 04:36.37 | somiaj | though I still suggest just creating an i386 build enviromernt and building your i386 packages there. |
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| 04:36.52 | n0c | i only care about the amd64 package |
| 04:37.03 | somiaj | you must have a .deb that dosen't have multiarch enabled |
| 04:37.04 | n0c | might remove the i386 arch altogether form this sytem |
| 04:37.09 | n0c | ahh |
| 04:37.16 | n0c | i didnt know it was in the deb itself |
| 04:37.24 | n0c | must be in the control file? |
| 04:37.46 | somiaj | yes, you can see it with apt-cache show |
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| 04:40.00 | somiaj | yea the linux-libc-dev has Multi-Arch: same on it |
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| 04:40.06 | n0c | there we go |
| 04:40.10 | somiaj | wonder if the ones in the kernel you compipled didn't have that |
| 04:40.13 | n0c | removed the i386 one |
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| 04:50.08 | googlah | Anyone wanna move to north Sweden? asking for a place in florida or similar... :P |
| 04:50.24 | googlah | we exchange |
| 04:50.37 | googlah | lol |
| 04:51.38 | n0c | displeased over the masturbation? |
| 04:51.42 | n0c | hehe |
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| 04:56.32 | jsonlee | in debian is there any tool that can draw ascii diagram? |
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| 05:02.53 | doebi | how do i know if my system has a beeping capabilities? |
| 05:03.08 | doebi | 'beep' doesnt produce any sounds |
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| 05:03.50 | n0c | pcspkr is commonly a blacklisted module |
| 05:04.03 | n0c | in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
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| 05:05.13 | doebi | hmm i dont have that file |
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| 05:06.21 | doebi | but i have alsa-base-blacklist.conf and fbdev-blacklist.conf |
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| 05:08.47 | somiaj | doebi: grep pcspkr /etc/modprobe.d/* -- tell ya if it is blacklisted there |
| 05:08.59 | somiaj | you can also 'modprobe pcspkr' if you want to load it then type beep |
| 05:09.55 | doebi | module not found :/ |
| 05:09.56 | somiaj | jsonlee: I was able to find a few packages that allow ascii art maybe diagrams via apt-cache search. |
| 05:10.25 | somiaj | doebi: what kernel are you running, output of uname -a |
| 05:10.44 | doebi | 3.2 |
| 05:10.53 | SirLagz | jsonlee: there are programs that will convert an image into ascii art...maybe that would be somewhat useful for you |
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| 05:11.34 | somiaj | doebi: I want the full output of that command |
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| 05:12.02 | doebi | Linux doebian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 05:12.34 | jsonlee | I just find vim has a plugin - http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=40, with which i can draw some simple ascii diagram. |
| 05:12.53 | somiaj | doebi: I have that same kernel and I have the pcsprk module, did you run that command as root and spell it correctly |
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| 05:13.39 | doebi | somiaj: yeah |
| 05:14.04 | doebi | thats why my initial question was. how to check if i actualy have the capability... |
| 05:14.25 | Ex-Opesa | Through IPtables, I configured my router (192.168.1.1) to direct all port 80 request to a squid transparent proxy. Everything is working fine except that squid is logging router's IP instead of the clients. What should I do or look into? Thanks. |
| 05:16.56 | jeep | Ex-Opesa, your redirect your subnet outgoing traffic back to a computer on the subnet running squid ? |
| 05:18.16 | somiaj | doebi: that kernel should have the module for the pcspkr if or if not your hardware has a speaker. The module not found should seems strange to me. |
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| 05:18.32 | Ex-Opesa | jeep: Yes. |
| 05:18.58 | doebi | somiaj: lsmod | grep pcspkr gives me: pcspkr 12579 0 |
| 05:19.17 | somiaj | doebi: so it is loaded. (: |
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| 05:19.39 | doebi | but i still dont hear a beep |
| 05:19.47 | jeep | Ex-Opesa, have you considered setting your network up differently ? modem ==> linux box ==> router/switch ===> rest of computers |
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| 05:21.12 | somiaj | doebi: then you most likely don't have a speaker. desktop or laptop? |
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| 05:21.22 | doebi | notebook |
| 05:21.23 | Ex-Opesa | jeep: Ah no I have not. But I think I need two interfaces right? |
| 05:21.45 | doebi | i have usual speakers, but i dont know if there is one on mainboard |
| 05:21.51 | somiaj | doebi: sometimes the pcspkr is redirected though the sound card on those. check alsamixer |
| 05:22.09 | somiaj | I've seen some sound cards have an option to mute/umute the pcspkr |
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| 05:22.39 | somiaj | yea my laptop I have a beep option in alsamixer I can mute/unmute and set the volume |
| 05:23.00 | jeep | Ex-Opesa, yeah there are router distros but of course debian or any other distro can be the router/squid/webserver whatever you need |
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| 05:23.33 | doebi | somiaj: where in alsamixer |
| 05:23.52 | doebi | in /proc/asounds/cards i have 2 devices |
| 05:23.58 | Ex-Opesa | jeep: Okay, so currently, in my setup, its not possible to log IPs properly? |
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| 05:24.49 | somiaj | doebi: I just have a volume bar labeled 'beep' |
| 05:25.01 | doebi | i only have master |
| 05:25.11 | jeep | Ex-Opesa, i doubt it what are you using for a router ? |
| 05:25.20 | somiaj | try alsamixer -c 1 to see the second card |
| 05:25.26 | rwp | sistematico, Many things are wrong. |
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| 05:26.34 | Ex-Opesa | jeep: Its the bit modified firmware. router/switch is linksys wag200g. Can't run DD-wrt or anything |
| 05:26.55 | doebi | somiaj: ooooh |
| 05:27.01 | doebi | i had to activate the view |
| 05:27.06 | doebi | i have a beep device |
| 05:27.09 | doebi | and it was muted |
| 05:27.20 | doebi | now it works ;) |
| 05:27.22 | doebi | thx |
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| 05:28.09 | jeep | Ex-Opesa, ah i would find a dumpster box to use .. old p2 would be good |
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| 05:28.43 | Ex-Opesa | jeep: Yeah, I will look in the setup you suggested, thanks! |
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| 05:39.37 | Speedfire | Hi anyone Have an idea why I get bumblebee-nvidia: Depends bumblebee..... primus: Depends bumblebe....... |
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| 06:04.29 | somiaj | buu: and m3u file is just a play list, you need a player to play it. Best to download the list and use a player than can use it |
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| 06:06.51 | Raging_Hog | I have discovered a regression bug in a package in wheezy, but reportbug tells me that there's a newer version in unstable. Should I still file the report? |
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| 06:07.16 | bullgard4 | somiaj: What list? I'd like to find such a list in the WWW if possible a comprehensive list. |
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| 06:09.52 | somiaj | bullgard4: that file is a list, save the file and look inside |
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| 06:10.04 | somiaj | cat it or use a text editor |
| 06:11.07 | somiaj | Raging_Hog: Have you checked to see if it is reported already? |
| 06:11.59 | themill | Raging_Hog: Assuming it's not already reported and marked as fixed in unstable: is it important enough that it needs to be fixed in wheezy? then yes. Did you spend hours trying to track this down and would saving that effort for someone else be worthwhile? then yes. |
| 06:12.05 | bullgard4 | somiaj: We two, you and I, are not yet synchronized. I can put thids address into Rhythmbox, and Rhythmbox will play this radio stream. I am looking for more such addresses (in a comprehensive list). |
| 06:12.17 | bullgard4 | -d |
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| 06:13.00 | themill | bullgard4: what makes you suppose such a list exists any more than a comprehensive list of all web pages exists? |
| 06:14.28 | bullgard4 | themill: I only hope so. There are commercial services in the Internet that have such lists, for example Last.fm. |
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| 06:17.01 | jelly-home | there's the shoutcast directory |
| 06:17.08 | pav5088 | I've found some broken stuff in isc-dhcp-server-ldap :-/ ...aaand posted a bug... but it's for using client side certificates and noone... I mean NOONE uses client side certificates even though it's meant to be best practice (at least according to these OpenLDAP conference security videos I've watched). |
| 06:18.44 | bullgard4 | jelly-home: I have stumbled about Shoutcast's list in the past. I found it not current and biased to other parts of the world, not to Europe. |
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| 06:25.27 | Raging_Hog | somiaj, themill, it's fixed in unstable, even though that was way back in january. So I'll just give it a rest http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683854 |
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| 06:30.05 | Raging_Hog | It's just odd that the package is broken in stable, meaning you can't really do anything with it without manually finding out what's wrong and fixing it. for 9 months already |
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| 06:30.50 | somiaj | Raging_Hog: /msg dpkg ssb (you can make a backport of the unstable version if the bug needs to be fixed on your system) |
| 06:32.37 | themill | Raging_Hog: it's a trivial enough bug for the local admin to fix so I guess that leads to the conclusion that it could be left broken. Severity:important bugs can actually be fixed in a stable update and it might be worth pinging the maintainers to suggest that if you think it's worth doing |
| 06:33.01 | themill | Raging_Hog: (it would be *only* fixing the symlink that they did, not the new upstream release etc) |
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| 06:50.39 | nonconvergent | Hi guys. |
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| 07:02.26 | pav5088 | themill, if isc-dhcp-server-ldap only works with LDAP servers that aren't secured by requiring client side certificates is that a "normal" but, or "serious"? |
| 07:02.34 | pav5088 | a normal BUG |
| 07:02.38 | Speedfire | hi someone can help me ? I need the g++ 4.8. If I have installed gcc, g++ also installed ? |
| 07:04.05 | pav5088 | Speedfire, I believe you will need to install g++ separate to gcc. |
| 07:04.53 | pav5088 | Speedfire, but both gcc and g++ can coexist on the same system |
| 07:05.28 | Speedfire | So I have already install gcc, but I need g++ 4.8 or higher, How can I be sure of the version, a g++ --version gave me this answer: g++ (Debian 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 I have to update it I think ? |
| 07:06.14 | themill | pav5088: dunno... it's not a common form of operation but at the same time, I guess it's security related. The best thing to do is always talk to the maintainer (you may like to ask in #debian-security on oftc if you think they may have an opinion on this) |
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| 07:06.41 | themill | Speedfire: gcc 4.8 isn't available for wheezy. You could create a jessie or sid chroot if you want to compile things with that compiler. |
| 07:07.10 | pav5088 | Speedfire, gcc4.8 is only available in sid (not jessie) |
| 07:07.16 | Speedfire | gosh... So I cannot install g++ under wheezy ? |
| 07:07.28 | Speedfire | Or it exist a tweak ? |
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| 07:07.36 | themill | Speedfire: you can install g++-4.7 not g++-4.8 |
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| 07:07.55 | Speedfire | oki, so I must install the last ubuntu ? |
| 07:08.03 | themill | no |
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| 07:09.02 | Speedfire | hum... I cannot just add the repository ? |
| 07:09.21 | themill | no |
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| 07:09.52 | lukage | Speedfire: If you need such recent compiler, the best way is to follow http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/InstallingGCC and compile it with system compiler from source to some safe location.. That way you can test on both system compiler and bleeding edge version. |
| 07:10.04 | Speedfire | gosh gosh gosh So Which distribution I can use ? |
| 07:10.26 | Speedfire | Not a testing one would be better. |
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| 07:12.37 | themill | Speedfire: specifically why are you looking for g++ 4.8 rather than g++ 4.7? |
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| 07:13.08 | Speedfire | Cause I following a coursw on coursera.org and I need the 4.8 to follow this cours |
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| 07:14.51 | pav5088 | Speedfire, that's very strange... so they need perfect binary compatibility? I wouldn't think it would make much of a difference otherwise. |
| 07:14.53 | somiaj | Speedfire: you could install a jessie or sid chroot, and do all your compiling inside the chroot if you have to have features in 4.8. Do they say why 4.8 is required and earlier versions won't work? |
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| 07:16.04 | Speedfire | the probleme is that with Jessie I cannot install bumblebee under my machine because of a bug that is not already fixed. But on my course they tell that we can install g++ 4.8 under ubuntu :s |
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| 07:17.01 | Speedfire | they use then 12.04 version of ubuntu |
| 07:17.04 | somiaj | I'm not saying install jessie on your machine, I'm staying install a jessie chroot. So your machine will be running wheezy. But you will have a chroot you can work in that has the compiler |
| 07:17.18 | themill | dpkg: tell Speedfire about debootstrap |
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| 07:18.10 | lukage | I'm just wondering what so special is on 4.8 g++ that is needed on a course |
| 07:18.31 | Speedfire | hum oki, I have never done that. So it's about bootstrap right ? |
| 07:18.31 | themill | They might be wanting some particular support for a recent C++ standard which is only in 4.8. Or it might be that they just never tried their examples with an older g++ so just state that you need the latest |
| 07:19.00 | somiaj | or they just state the newest version available in the os (Seems ubuntu) the wrote the docs for |
| 07:19.19 | Speedfire | In the 4.7 you already have the 2011 norme ? |
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| 07:19.55 | Speedfire | Oki so it's not a plorbleme if I am using the 4.7 right ? |
| 07:19.56 | somiaj | Speedfire: you could also just try the course with 4.7 unil you run across the point it won't work. (: |
| 07:19.58 | vlt | Hello. If I wanted to know which process is sending udp packets I can see with tcpdump, what can I use? |
| 07:20.07 | Speedfire | oki |
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| 07:23.12 | somiaj | vlt: iptraf may tell the process, seems there is an iptraf-ng to |
| 07:24.52 | somiaj | hmm, guess it doesn't, it does tell the port and maybe you can use netstat to see what is bound to the port |
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| 07:54.15 | vlt | somiaj: No, unfortunately no process seems to *bind* to that port. It just bursts out udp packets that I can see in tcpdump or iftop but I can't find out what it is. |
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| 07:58.45 | Sevet | vlt: netstat -anp | grep ^udp | grep :XYZ (XYZ = port number) |
| 08:00.57 | vlt | Sevet: Thanks, but no got no matches. |
| 08:01.17 | vlt | The tcpdump line doesn't specify a port for the udp packets it captures. |
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| 08:07.08 | tremon | you might be able to create an iptables rule that logs the sending process, however I never seem to be able to find good netfiler docs |
| 08:07.17 | tremon | netfilter that is |
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| 08:12.36 | vedranm | can anyone confirm these numbers? |
| 08:12.37 | vedranm | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds02.html.en |
| 08:12.59 | vedranm | my goal is to install debian on 1.5GiB partition |
| 08:13.09 | vedranm | if LXDE can't even fit there |
| 08:13.13 | vedranm | that's a bit bad |
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| 08:15.06 | tremon | the tasks include many optional components as well. Don't use a task, just install the base system and install only the lxde package(s) |
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| 08:15.15 | jelly-home | vedranm: they look reasonably correct. I wouldn't go with less than 10GB for a Debian workstation installation |
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| 08:16.24 | vlt | Hello. I did an `lsof -n | grep <destination ip>` to see which process is sending out UDP packets to a host but I get no result. Is it possible to trigger an lsof by iptables or tcpdump that moment whenever a specific packet is sent? |
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| 08:20.47 | Sevet | vlt: you won't get any results looking for udp sockets by destination ip - they're connectionless so there is no destination |
| 08:21.01 | Sevet | <vlt> The tcpdump line doesn't specify a port for the udp packets it captures. |
| 08:21.08 | Sevet | it should. try with the -n flag. |
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| 08:23.43 | vlt | Sevet: I already use the -n flag for not resolving the addresses. |
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| 08:24.46 | Sevet | what does one of the lines showing a udp packet look like? |
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| 08:28.30 | vlt | Sevet: 10:27:33.201639 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 51256, offset 2208, flags [+], proto: UDP (17), length: 572) 146.xxx.xxx.xxx > 213.41.211.250: udp |
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| 08:31.30 | tremon | sending a udp packet is very much a one-shot kernel call. You're getting into systemtap territory quickly |
| 08:32.00 | vlt | tremon: Yes, that seems to be the problem. Any idea how to find out the source of the packets? |
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| 08:35.08 | tremon | well https://sourceware.org/systemtap/examples/network/tcpdumplike.stp is a tcpdump-like example, but it does not log originating packet pid's. I'm guessing that it can, but I'm not sure. you may need to attach a probe to the syscall side of the kernel instead. It really depends on how much time you want to spend on it |
| 08:35.28 | tremon | how about just blocking such traffic and see if any process starts compaining in syslog? |
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| 08:36.31 | tremon | check https://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/WSNetTop |
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| 08:38.17 | vlt | tremon: I already blocked. No complaining. But there's not only one connection. Looks like ddos or torrent or something like that. |
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| 08:40.52 | tremon | if you're thinking that the box is rooted, it's probably best to disconnect from the network first |
| 08:42.42 | tremon | this lists many examples: https://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/WarStories, but i've never worked with systemtap so can't help you further |
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| 08:51.23 | c0ded | anyone around |
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| 08:51.30 | c0ded | got a prob easy deb question |
| 08:52.15 | c0ded | just something i havent came accross before, so idk whats up with the right way |
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| 08:52.43 | babilen | dpkg: ask |
| 08:52.43 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:55.21 | c0ded | oh ok babilen |
| 08:55.23 | c0ded | my bad |
| 08:55.28 | c0ded | ok so i got 3 boxes |
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| 08:56.19 | c0ded | 2 are vps, 1 dedi, 1 of the vps(s) update failed, cuz of something wrong with the sources.list, though i thint it just needed a restart cuz it was down for maintence for a week, and idk, cuz after i added a diff source in there, it didnt work, but after a reboot it did |
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| 08:56.54 | c0ded | anyways, my question is, i got 1 dedi from ovh, and 2 vps from 2 other providers, and i did some resaerch on google and found out the basic sources i need to add for my boxes(all running deb wheezy |
| 08:57.29 | c0ded | my question though is i found that some use the ftp://us.deb.blah.blah, and i have it set to the normal http://http.debian.org |
| 08:57.38 | c0ded | also my ovh box original had ovh mirrors |
| 08:57.40 | tremon | http.debian.net probably? |
| 08:57.53 | c0ded | im wondering is all that other stuff just mirrors, and its all the same? |
| 08:58.00 | c0ded | or do i NEED to use the ovh mirror for my ovh box |
| 08:58.09 | c0ded | ill show u what i ended up puttting on all 3 boxes |
| 08:58.12 | c0ded | and no errors anymore |
| 08:58.24 | c0ded | just idk if im missing something or doing it wrong on 1 of the boxes |
| 08:58.35 | c0ded | ok |
| 08:58.45 | c0ded | here's my /etc/apt/sources.list on all 3 boxes atm |
| 08:58.46 | c0ded | # default wheezy sources list |
| 08:58.46 | c0ded | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 08:58.46 | c0ded | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 08:58.46 | c0ded | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-updates main contrib non-free |
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| 08:58.54 | tremon | !paste |
| 08:58.55 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 08:58.57 | c0ded | sry, i thought that was under the limit |
| 08:59.05 | c0ded | i will next time tremon |
| 08:59.08 | Shadur | When in doubt, use pastebin |
| 08:59.10 | c0ded | my apologies |
| 08:59.13 | c0ded | fair nuff |
| 08:59.36 | c0ded | so basically, just wondering is that OK for alll/any deb wheezy box for its sources.list? |
| 08:59.57 | c0ded | or do i need the ovh mirror for my ovh box, and/or use the addresses with the location in it |
| 09:00.06 | c0ded | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
| 09:00.23 | c0ded | that page u can gen a sources list for w/e u use and when i do mine |
| 09:00.34 | tremon | c0ded: you can find the list of official mirrors on http://www.debian.org/mirror/ . I don't know ovh, but it's common for providers to offers some packages (kernel, management) that are specific to their service |
| 09:00.55 | c0ded | it ends up exactly what i pasted, but it uses deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian and not deb http://http.debian.net/debian |
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| 09:01.12 | c0ded | ok |
| 09:01.29 | c0ded | so ur saying ovh's mirror might have someshit thats just for ovh added to it? |
| 09:01.46 | c0ded | cuz its a dedi, that i reimaged and added my own kernel for and shit |
| 09:01.57 | c0ded | so idk if it has anything really ovh related |
| 09:02.01 | tremon | yes, that's likely. Although debian.mirrors.ovh.net is an official mirror |
| 09:02.01 | c0ded | but idk |
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| 09:02.12 | c0ded | yea i saw that |
| 09:02.24 | c0ded | im just wondering if i should change what i have up there to the ovh one |
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| 09:02.37 | c0ded | also what about the ftp://us.blah baloh |
| 09:02.44 | c0ded | is that just a mirror of what i pasted |
| 09:03.13 | c0ded | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian and not deb http://http.debian.net/debian |
| 09:03.22 | tremon | in terms of packages, it doesn't matter. All official mirrors carry the same packages (though sometimes not for all architectures). Picking a mirror that is close to you might be faster though |
| 09:03.23 | c0ded | like, are those exactly the same ? |
| 09:03.47 | c0ded | i got good speed, im not worried about faster |
| 09:03.58 | c0ded | just wanna make sure that deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian and not deb http://http.debian.net/debian , those 2 things are the exact same thing |
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| 09:04.01 | c0ded | as far as what im getting |
| 09:04.13 | c0ded | that it doesnt matter, cuz they're the exact same |
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| 09:04.18 | tremon | they have the same content |
| 09:04.25 | c0ded | ty |
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| 09:04.41 | c0ded | but ovh might be diff, cuz its a mirror for ovh, so they might have extra ovh shit in there with it ? |
| 09:06.28 | tremon | no, that's not how it works. If the source you're using is http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian then that's an offical debian mirror and is identical to the other ones you listed. If ovh were offering their own packages, they would have to do so in a separate repository |
| 09:07.10 | c0ded | oh |
| 09:07.29 | c0ded | well this is what the ovh ones i had before where that i commented out of sources.list |
| 09:07.49 | tremon | it might be that the ovh.net mirror isn't metered so downloading packages from there doesn't count towards your ovh bandwidth usage |
| 09:08.44 | babilen | tremon: http.debian.net might actually pick the VH mirror, but that is pure conjecture. |
| 09:08.50 | bullgard4 | [wheezy] Why does the directory /sys/devices/platform/smapi/ not exist on a Thnikpad X201? (It does exist on a Thinkpad T61 though.) The package tp-smapi-dkms is installed. |
| 09:09.23 | c0ded | http://paste.debian.net/43515/ |
| 09:09.44 | c0ded | my ovh bw is unlimited/unthrottled |
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| 09:09.49 | c0ded | so dont need to worry there |
| 09:09.52 | babilen | c0ded: Please never use debgen.simplylinux -- that website is horrible, encourages enabling unsupported third-party repositories of dubious quality and generates broken sources.lists -- we tried to convince the owner of that website to take it down or (at least) fix it, but nothing came of it. |
| 09:10.27 | c0ded | word, i wouldnt use it for making my own stuff |
| 09:10.41 | c0ded | i just was curious what it said for a pure deb stable wheezy sources.list |
| 09:10.44 | babilen | c0ded: A perfectly fine and (very) complete sources.list *with* backports would look like http://paste.debian.net/43516/ |
| 09:10.51 | tremon | c0ded: that's just using the official mirror, so you're not using any ovh-specific packages on that box. |
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| 09:11.26 | c0ded | oh i know its not from that site, the site was just to generally see if my normal deb sources where right |
| 09:11.48 | c0ded | ok cool |
| 09:11.59 | c0ded | thats what i have for all 3 of my boxes atm, even the ovh one |
| 09:12.05 | c0ded | cept it doesnt have the backports one |
| 09:12.29 | babilen | c0ded: Just to let you know: I find it very hard to follow you and maybe using proper English (in particular for the benefit of the many non-native speakers in here), punctuation and concise descriptions would help. |
| 09:13.24 | c0ded | ur sayign there's alot of non-english speaking ppl in here? |
| 09:13.28 | babilen | c0ded: I quite intentionally pointed out wheezy-backports as there is no need to have that enabled. Using the sources.list you seem to be using right now should be perfectly fine. |
| 09:13.38 | c0ded | so my american slang is not understandable? |
| 09:13.53 | c0ded | http://paste.debian.net/43518/ |
| 09:14.03 | c0ded | thats what i got on all 3 of my boxes, the ovh dedi included ^^ |
| 09:14.29 | c0ded | and thx tremon and babilen , for all ur input/help |
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| 09:14.44 | c0ded | so then im guessing i did it right the 1st time aye babilen? |
| 09:14.50 | babilen | c0ded: I am saying that a lot of the people in here learned English as their second, third or fourth language and might find it confusing to read your vernacular. |
| 09:14.54 | c0ded | that link i just pasted is what i got on all 3 my deb wheezy boxes |
| 09:15.09 | c0ded | ic ic babilen |
| 09:15.18 | c0ded | kk, ill proper it up then |
| 09:15.39 | c0ded | just been on irc forever and live in the US, so i use alot of slang from IRL and online |
| 09:15.40 | c0ded | my bad |
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| 09:17.34 | babilen | c0ded: Just take a look at the wall of text you've written to essentially ask: "Hi people. My hoster (OVH) uses a sources.list such as $PASTE, but I want to use $PASTE making use of the http.debian.net metamirror. Do you see any problems with that? Is there anything that I should change?" |
| 09:18.12 | c0ded | hey i was just having a nice convo abotu some deb stuff |
| 09:18.16 | c0ded | sry if it came off bad |
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| 09:18.33 | c0ded | and ive been up for over 30 hrs programing/coding, so sry if im a bit off |
| 09:18.47 | tremon | c0ded: it takes practice to be concise ;). Just FYI, I'm ESL too (babilen :p) and had no trouble following you. But there's 1300 people lurking in here |
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| 09:19.03 | c0ded | just wanted to make sure i got my sources.list right , by using the same http line on all 3 boxes, including the ovh one is all |
| 09:19.14 | Delf | Is http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ having issues? |
| 09:19.28 | c0ded | lmao omg |
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| 09:19.38 | c0ded | if it is, and thats why i originally got an error on my vps |
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| 09:19.43 | c0ded | that be stupid funny |
| 09:19.43 | Delf | It is. |
| 09:19.46 | c0ded | that i went thorugh all this |
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| 09:19.53 | Delf | switch to http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/ |
| 09:19.54 | c0ded | cuz of soemthing NOT on my end |
| 09:20.00 | babilen | c0ded: It's fine, and we don't have to discuss this further, it just took me quite some time to figure out what you were actually asking. (which is a bad thing as fewer people will be able to answer) :) |
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| 09:20.03 | c0ded | i switched to http.debian.org |
| 09:20.22 | c0ded | word, thx babilen |
| 09:20.33 | c0ded | and i guess im ok with that 1 i pasted for all 3 boxes then |
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| 09:21.14 | c0ded | Def |
| 09:21.16 | babilen | Delf: I would recommend to use the http.debian.net metamirror that picks the "best" mirror based on a number of metrics automagically for your. See http://http.debian.net for a description and you could use a sources.list such as http://paste.debian.net/43516/ on your system (note the wheezy-backports that you might not want) |
| 09:21.22 | c0ded | this is what i changed mine too: http://paste.debian.net/43518/ |
| 09:21.25 | c0ded | should work for u |
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| 09:22.16 | Delf | Thanks |
| 09:22.19 | babilen | Delf: You can, naturally, use ftp.no.debian.org in lieu of ftp.se.debian.org, but you might run into problem once .no. has issues and you would use geographically far mirrors by default. |
| 09:22.32 | c0ded | and so ur not confused, what babilen pasted to u is the same exact thign i pasted to u Def, just his has the extra backports lines |
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| 09:22.58 | c0ded | basically what happened to me ^^ |
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| 09:23.03 | c0ded | i had |
| 09:23.29 | c0ded | #deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main |
| 09:23.32 | babilen | c0ded: Seriously, lay of the enter key ;) |
| 09:23.33 | c0ded | and it started tripping out |
| 09:23.39 | c0ded | what u mean? |
| 09:23.50 | c0ded | u dont want me to chat in here? |
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| 09:24.00 | tremon | !enter |
| 09:24.00 | Delf | Chat. But type more. |
| 09:24.00 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 09:24.13 | c0ded | i know my nix/deb shit, that was just something i never had an issue with, cuz i guess no servers where ever down when i tried |
| 09:24.19 | babilen | grabs another coffee :) |
| 09:24.26 | c0ded | meh |
| 09:24.44 | c0ded | just how i am online, on irc, how alot of old school irc'ers talk in a chan |
| 09:24.48 | c0ded | its nuthing on purpose though |
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| 09:25.51 | Delf | c0ded: It's how I am too. We're not alone. |
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| 09:26.01 | c0ded | heh |
| 09:26.02 | tremon | c0ded: we know, but we have times when we are helping 5 different people with 5 different problems at the same time (remember, 1300 people here). Every unnecessary enter means more of the useful info is lost in the scrollback |
| 09:26.03 | sanga | A RSS reader application that just downloads the text of the article, not the full html page ? |
| 09:26.37 | c0ded | well i wouldnt just talk to make convo in that situation, id tell ppl where being helped in a large number |
| 09:26.46 | c0ded | so id just not say anything but help stuff |
| 09:26.48 | tremon | c0ded: It's not a problem right now, but this is primarily a support channel, not a social channel -- we have #debian-offtopic for that. |
| 09:26.49 | c0ded | but i get ya bro |
| 09:26.57 | peterrooney | sanga: isn't that under the controll of the RSS feed? |
| 09:26.59 | c0ded | yea for sure |
| 09:27.02 | c0ded | i was just saying that |
| 09:27.17 | c0ded | i wouldnt be talking normally like this, just got into a convo with u guys and no one else was talking then |
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| 09:27.32 | c0ded | normaly id take it to -offtopic, or just say help info in here to someone who needs it |
| 09:27.45 | nonconvergent | ,v virtualbox |
| 09:27.46 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+2; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.2.16-dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.2.16-dfsg-2; sid/contrib: 4.2.16-dfsg-3 |
| 09:28.26 | c0ded | i just built a new pc |
| 09:28.35 | c0ded | sry, that just made me think of it, the display of specs heh |
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| 09:32.00 | c0ded | its kinda like those mirrors for the most part are just to put a place/thing's name in it, like a rdns or something to just show its the 'ovh" mirror, or the 'blah' mirror, but really its all the same thing |
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| 09:32.23 | c0ded | i get that though, i use rdns and setup my own vhosts and shit on my shit too |
| 09:34.07 | moldy | hi |
| 09:34.39 | moldy | trying to configure exim to send mail, as per http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/s390/ch08s05.html.en |
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| 09:35.17 | moldy | it seems that "nothing" happens when i try to send mail using the "mail" command. the log files are empty. any hints on what is wrong here? |
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| 09:36.07 | koollman | moldy: is exim running ? are you looking in /var/log/mail.info ? |
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| 09:37.21 | moldy | koollman: exim is running, all /var/log/mail.* files are empty |
| 09:39.00 | moldy | even after restarting exim4, the logs are empty. isn't exim supposed to log *anything*? |
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| 09:40.12 | moldy | ahh, it's in /var/log/exim4... |
| 09:40.22 | koollman | ah. hmm. yay for non-standard logs :) |
| 09:40.34 | moldy | maybe i should just install postfix :p |
| 09:41.08 | koollman | maybe, yes. it works by default for many use cases |
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| 09:42.48 | amkamk | Could anyone plese post their 'ls -la' of /lib64? |
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| 09:44.50 | koollman | amkamk: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Apr 20 2011 /lib64 -> /lib |
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| 09:45.42 | amkamk | koollman: thx |
| 09:45.50 | nonconvergent | Any popular password management? I know gnome-keychain and kwallet kind of fill that niche, but I don't knwo how well they intergrate with browsers, which is probably the one place I want to cut down on repetative passwording. |
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| 09:47.35 | moldy | nonconvergent: i sent passwords to myself in encrypted e-mails and store then in my imap account. that plus my browsers "remember password" feature. |
| 09:47.45 | jolaren | Could anyone tip me on a good optimization program for images which runs all the big image-file-endings? Like .gif, .png and .jpeg.. I've only found two which one compresses png and one .jpeg.. |
| 09:48.19 | moldy | jolaren: imagemagick? |
| 09:49.28 | jolaren | I'm reading up on man now |
| 09:49.36 | jolaren | Compressing directory <3 |
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| 09:51.14 | nonconvergent | moldy: That is specifically what I'm trying to avoid. The "remember" passwords feature are worse in some browsers than others. |
| 09:52.10 | moldy | nonconvergent: that leaves you to copy/paste, i think |
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| 09:53.42 | jolaren | Seems to be loads of functions in ImageMagick :-) Trying to compress without changing size on the images thought |
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| 09:55.46 | moldy | jolaren: you might run into problems with the image quality |
| 09:56.19 | moldy | jolaren: those image formats are already compressed |
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| 09:57.27 | jolaren | hmm .. Bah |
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| 10:07.47 | moldy | after installing virtualenvwrapper, sourcing bashrc runs some virtualenvwrapper code. where is that hook located? |
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| 10:15.56 | ChrisH | moldy: Didn't you have the answer: "sourcing bashrc runs some virtualenvwrapper code" so it must be in .bashrc if sourcing it executes code |
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| 10:18.10 | moldy | ChrisH: sure, but i cannot find anything related in .bashrc, and i did not change my .bashrc |
| 10:18.32 | moldy | ChrisH: and installing a package does not modify the .bashrc of each user, right? |
| 10:19.17 | moldy | ChrisH: so there must be some kind of interface somewhere on the system that virtualenvwrapper is hooking into? |
| 10:20.04 | el-linedash | ChrisH, run bash -x |
| 10:20.19 | el-linedash | and see if you can spot where it's pulling it in from that |
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| 10:22.07 | ChrisH | el-linedash: ICMP redirect moldy |
| 10:22.11 | moldy | el-linedash: i can't spot anything related: http://paste.debian.net/43555/ |
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| 10:23.06 | ChrisH | moldy: can you determine what gets executed? Is it a script or a binary? |
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| 10:23.34 | el-linedash | coo that's a short output on bash -x |
| 10:23.38 | el-linedash | mine is vastly larger |
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| 10:24.51 | moldy | el-linedash: it's a server machine |
| 10:25.12 | moldy | and a useraccount dedicated to running a service |
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| 10:25.33 | el-linedash | ah# |
| 10:25.36 | moldy | el-linedash: not sure about script or binary. it produces this output: http://paste.debian.net/43557/ |
| 10:25.36 | el-linedash | nfi then fraid |
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| 10:26.02 | el-linedash | grep virtualenvwrapper /etc/* -ir |
| 10:26.06 | el-linedash | and have look around |
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| 10:26.41 | moldy | el-linedash: ahh, it's the bash_completion it hooks into |
| 10:26.53 | moldy | ok. i thought this was only for completions. |
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| 10:26.57 | el-linedash | :) |
| 10:27.14 | moldy | feels somewhat hackish |
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| 10:31.51 | bl4ckdu5t | I installed Skype on my debian and I can't make video calls! Any help? |
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| 10:36.01 | ksk | !tell bl4ckdu5t about skype |
| 10:36.15 | olivier_bK | hi |
| 10:36.27 | olivier_bK | some one her use csync2 ? |
| 10:36.34 | olivier_bK | because i have a probleme with it |
| 10:37.59 | moldy | olivier_bK: don't ask if somebody is using it. instead, describe your problem. |
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| 10:52.45 | olivier_bK | moldy, how can you force the update with csync2 |
| 10:53.07 | olivier_bK | if i try csync2 -xvd idont have any connection in my server :( ? |
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| 11:56.36 | fridolin_ | Hi! I'm trying to setup my debian installation as a a2dp sink (bluetooth receiver), I want to start audio on my mobile device and listen to it via Laptop. I've edited /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf cause I've read that I have to set up "Enable=Source" there but when I run sdptool against my debian install it doesn't show up (not as a2src, not as a2snk). Can anybody help me out? Sry 4 bad english. |
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| 12:25.17 | Plouj | hi |
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| 12:26.34 | Plouj | When I try to install qemu-kvm-dbg in sqeeze I get this error: "unmet dependencies: qemu-kvm-dbg : Depends: qemu-kvm (= 0.12.5+dfsg-5+squeeze10)". I already have qemu-kvm 1.1.2+dfsg-5~bpo60+1 installed. Any idea what's going on? How can I make the -dbg package installable? |
| 12:26.45 | Plouj | (One that is appropriate for my qemu-kvm package) |
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| 12:34.57 | outch3 | new production server, squeeze or whezzy? |
| 12:35.45 | pkv | wheezy |
| 12:35.50 | ksk | yap, wheezy. |
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| 12:41.38 | Agd_Scorp | hello there fellow debians. |
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| 12:42.33 | somiaj | Plouj: you have a newer version installed from backports, so you probabaly need to install qemu-kvm-dbg from backports |
| 12:42.45 | somiaj | Plouj: apt-get -t squeeze-backports install qemu-kvm-dbg |
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| 12:44.32 | Agd_Scorp | somiaj: shut up please |
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| 12:45.39 | Plouj | o_O |
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| 12:46.52 | Agd_Scorp | lol. |
| 12:46.59 | Agd_Scorp | what's the difference between debian and ubuntu? |
| 12:47.04 | Agd_Scorp | can anybody elaborate. |
| 12:47.19 | cusco | !ubuntu |
| 12:47.19 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 12:47.32 | cusco | !based on debian |
| 12:47.32 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 12:48.03 | xand | Agd_Scorp: ask ubuntu - they took debian and changed it. |
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| 12:51.18 | Plouj | What the heck! I swear that "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main" used to work on July 31, 2013. What happened to it now? |
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| 12:51.53 | Plouj | I explicitly had to change the config from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian to http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-backports/. Now it seems that http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian is the one that exists. |
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| 12:52.33 | ChrisH | Plouj: You might want to use apt-cache policy PGKNAME to check the packages you are trying to install. |
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| 12:53.02 | startthink | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/ <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking. |
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| 12:58.47 | Plouj | ChrisH: Ok, thanks. |
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| 12:59.57 | bl4ckdu5t | What's the best Ubuntu image editor to resize images. I just found out I can't resize with eye-of-gnome |
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| 13:00.13 | xand | bl4ckdu5t: wrong channel. |
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| 13:00.52 | bl4ckdu5t | Xand: It's on my debian! I just need a lil tip |
| 13:00.53 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: You want #ubuntu :) |
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| 13:01.00 | xand | bl4ckdu5t: you said ubuntu. |
| 13:01.16 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: Why are you looking for an Ubuntu image editor on Debian and what would that even be? |
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| 13:01.53 | bl4ckdu5t | since eog works on debian and ubuntu, I felt your suggestions here could count |
| 13:01.54 | steb | anyone familiar with icmp protocol? |
| 13:02.02 | Plouj | I guess I'm going to try "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports " |
| 13:02.05 | xand | you can use gimp |
| 13:02.18 | bl4ckdu5t | I tried #ubuntu and they seemed to be carried away with some other discussions |
| 13:02.19 | xand | or, imagemagick's convert program (CLI) |
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| 13:02.23 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: Please, you use Ubuntu and I would very much prefer if you ask support questions there. If you want support in here you are welcome to install and use Debian. |
| 13:02.25 | xand | bl4ckdu5t: that's irrelevant. |
| 13:02.38 | steb | ive got a dump with icmp port unreachable notification. is the source port of the contained udp packet in the icmp the port, which is not reachable? |
| 13:04.01 | startthink | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/ <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking. |
| 13:04.17 | ChrisH | steb: do you have the binary dump? wireshark is very helpfull here. I would expect the source port must be in, as the stack needs to notify the sending process |
| 13:04.38 | ChrisH | !ops startthink is spamming with offtopic |
| 13:04.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: chrish complains about: startthink is spamming with offtopic |
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| 13:05.25 | steb | ChrisH: i can see the binary values of the payload in icmp. the icmp contains a udp packet - but i just don't know if this contained udp is the information which connection is meant |
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| 13:05.54 | ChrisH | steb: a. do you have the binary dump? b. did you check with wireshark? |
| 13:06.05 | steb | i would assume that the udp source port that is in there should be the destination of the request belonging to the icmp. but i cant figure it out because i don't have the rest |
| 13:06.06 | bullgard4 | [Wheezy, Thinkpad] /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/charging_max_current shows the contents "1080". How is the physical quantity »charging_max_current« defined? |
| 13:06.49 | steb | ChrisH: you mean pcap file? yes i have |
| 13:07.36 | ChrisH | steb: open it with wireshark: wireshark -n -r FILENAME |
| 13:07.40 | babilen | bullgard4: Why don't you google for "charging current" or even "max charging current"? |
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| 13:08.17 | steb | ChrisH: i have it already opened in wireshark |
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| 13:08.40 | babilen | bullgard4: And it is exactly that, the maximum current that can be applied during charging. I am not sure what else to explain, but you might want to read up on the meaning of "current" |
| 13:09.04 | steb | ChrisH: i have now found the answer in the rfc. thank you anyway :) |
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| 13:09.15 | babilen | bullgard4: What did you think? Why is this relevant? What have you tried to answer that question? |
| 13:09.16 | xand | 1080 is a high number ;) given the SI unit for current is amps |
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| 13:09.42 | bullgard4 | babilen: I am afraid that I will obtain only generic definitions and none devoted to this particular case in Debian wheezy and Thinkpad. |
| 13:09.56 | babilen | xand: It's probably a fraction of that (but that should be obvious from the technical specification IBM/Lenovo make available) |
| 13:09.57 | jhutchins | xand: which would suggest that the unit is mA. |
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| 13:10.04 | jelly | bullgard4: best to check smapi / thinkpad-acpi sources, then |
| 13:10.23 | jhutchins | I would think that as a system parameter this would be documented at kernel.org |
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| 13:10.34 | babilen | bullgard4: This is not specific to Debian at all. You can take a look at https://github.com/evgeni/tp_smapi if you want to learn more |
| 13:10.41 | bullgard4 | babilen: It is definitely not like you said: "And it is exactly that, the maximum current that can be applied during charging." |
| 13:10.51 | babilen | Why not? |
| 13:10.56 | babilen | What is it then? |
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| 13:12.48 | bullgard4 | babilen: It cannot be like that because the contents of this file is zero when the battery is fully charged. And the contents is "1080" when the battery is discharged. I repeat: discharged. |
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| 13:13.36 | babilen | yes, exactly |
| 13:13.47 | jhutchins | bullgard4: Wouldn't it make sense for the charging current to be high when discharged and 0 when charged? |
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| 13:15.10 | babilen | or the current that can be charged at most to be high when discharged and zero when fully charged? |
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| 13:15.52 | jelly | !utsl |
| 13:15.52 | dpkg | utsl is, like, Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 13:16.14 | bullgard4 | babilen: Apparently it is specific to Debian but not limited to Debian. It is specific insofar as Debian uses the LKM tp_smapi, and not all Linux distributions do use the LKM tp_smapi. |
| 13:16.22 | elfranne | i have edited /etc/crontab to use /bin/bash (instead of /bin/sh) but when i echo $SHELL in crontab it still say /bin/sh any idea why ? |
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| 13:17.05 | babilen | bullgard4: Yes, that software is packaged for Debian. But back to the beginning: Why is this important? What are you trying to do? |
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| 13:18.47 | bullgard4 | jhutchins: No. Or at least not in the normal sense of a physical quantity "charging_max_current" when used in the learned trade. |
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| 13:19.25 | abrotman | elfranne: ls -l /bin/sh |
| 13:20.38 | elfranne | abrotman, it says /bin/sh is a symlink to dash |
| 13:20.58 | bullgard4 | babilen: I am trying to understand better the charging and decharging mechanisms of my Thinkpad computers, to derive a strategy to prolong the life of my batteries because they are expensive and I had to buy new replacement batteries in the past. |
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| 13:21.42 | JyZyXEL- | whenever i login to one of my debian boxes i get a huge flood of: -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied |
| 13:21.47 | JyZyXEL- | why might that be? |
| 13:21.59 | bullgard4 | s/decharging/discharging/ |
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| 13:22.29 | xand | JyZyXEL-: sounds like something silly in your bash profile script... trying to run /dev/null ? |
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| 13:22.39 | JyZyXEL- | oh? |
| 13:22.44 | abrotman | elfranne: where did you change it? |
| 13:23.07 | elfranne | in /etc/crontab |
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| 13:23.29 | JyZyXEL- | xand: perhaps my /dev/null has wrong permissions? |
| 13:23.34 | JyZyXEL- | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 20 16:09 /dev/null |
| 13:23.38 | xand | no that file is not not meant to be executable |
| 13:23.39 | abrotman | elfranne: and you restarted cron ? |
| 13:23.45 | elfranne | yes |
| 13:23.48 | babilen | bullgard4: Search for "lenovo battery life" and you'll find various discussions about it. It essentially boils down to maintaining a reasonable charge (do not discharge fully), temperature and not charging in bursts. The firmware on those batteries typically does a good job at charging in "good" intervals and there is little you can do. Just make sure you remove the battery when it is not needed, don't let it get too hot and so on. |
| 13:23.49 | xand | JyZyXEL-: something is trying to execute it. |
| 13:23.51 | themill | JyZyXEL-: that's very wrong |
| 13:23.57 | xand | JyZyXEL-: grep /dev/null .bash* |
| 13:24.15 | JyZyXEL- | .bashrc: if [ -x /usr/bin/tput ] && tput setaf 1 >&/dev/null; then |
| 13:24.17 | xand | oh, it's not got +w |
| 13:24.22 | babilen | bullgard4: There are various articles on that and this is really outside the scope of this channel and I would kindly ask you to respect that. Use a search engine and read one of the many articles discussing this. |
| 13:24.24 | themill | it's also not a device |
| 13:24.35 | xand | JyZyXEL-: yes, that's b0rked. |
| 13:24.41 | JyZyXEL- | i don't understand how it could have became borken like that |
| 13:24.45 | xand | it should be crw-rw-rw- |
| 13:24.49 | themill | JyZyXEL-: what kernel are you running? |
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| 13:24.58 | JyZyXEL- | current stable one |
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| 13:25.10 | abrotman | which is? |
| 13:25.15 | JyZyXEL- | linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 |
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| 13:25.33 | themill | JyZyXEL-: which version of udev? |
| 13:25.44 | JyZyXEL- | udev 175-7.2 |
| 13:25.59 | mrtnt | I need to set up a FTP server which allows everyone to upload files. I tried with in.ftpd, but I could not find an option to allow file uploads without any user name or password. |
| 13:26.13 | xand | mrtnt: open to the internet? |
| 13:26.21 | themill | JyZyXEL-: is /dev mounted as devtmpfs? |
| 13:26.32 | JyZyXEL- | udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=10240k,nr_inodes=239425,mode=755) |
| 13:27.00 | bullgard4 | babilen: I have read articles on this general subject in the past, for example in ThinkpadWiki. I thought that a question on a specific Debian file parameter is all right here in this channel. I will do further enquiries outside this channel. |
| 13:27.18 | mrtnt | xand: no. I need to use this in LAN |
| 13:28.06 | JyZyXEL- | i don't understand why it is borken |
| 13:28.45 | themill | JyZyXEL-: is this a vm or a real machine? |
| 13:28.54 | JyZyXEL- | its a real machine i made with deboostrap |
| 13:29.14 | themill | hmm... debootstrap doesn't create devices |
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| 13:29.24 | JyZyXEL- | well something did at some point |
| 13:29.34 | themill | well that's not a device |
| 13:29.41 | JyZyXEL- | oh |
| 13:29.47 | JyZyXEL- | well how do i create all the basic devices? |
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| 13:30.09 | JyZyXEL- | i mean i was able to get the debootsrapped system up and running |
| 13:30.24 | JyZyXEL- | no one told me i need to manually create some devices |
| 13:30.50 | jelly | JyZyXEL-: on a static /dev? cd /dev && /sbin/MAKEDEV generic will create a crapton of stuff |
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| 13:31.10 | drwbc | hello everybody |
| 13:31.15 | jhutchins | Yeah, but we haven't needed to do that for years. |
| 13:31.30 | jelly | but if all you need is /dev/null, why not just MAKEDEV null |
| 13:31.31 | drwbc | somebody can help me with blacklist problem |
| 13:31.46 | JyZyXEL- | cannot seem to be able to do that on active system |
| 13:31.51 | jelly | jhutchins: have "we" installed a system via debootstrap recently? |
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| 13:32.13 | JyZyXEL- | do i need to boot off a usb stick and chroot into the system to do this? |
| 13:32.16 | jelly | JyZyXEL-: yes |
| 13:32.17 | jhutchins | jelly: Yes indeed. |
| 13:32.25 | JyZyXEL- | damnit |
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| 13:32.38 | jhutchins | jelly: Nothing abnormal about it. Worked just like a netinstall. |
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| 13:32.48 | jhutchins | jelly: squeeze iirc. |
| 13:32.51 | jelly | jhutchins: and it _usually_ creates some 4-5 static entries in /dev |
| 13:33.03 | JyZyXEL- | i did not see this part in the deboostrap tutorial |
| 13:33.08 | jelly | however, debootstrap is buggy and doesn't do that well on a, say, RHEL system |
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| 13:33.31 | jhutchins | admittedly mine was debian-on-debian. |
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| 13:34.02 | jelly | JyZyXEL-: tutorials usually omit all the interesting bits like pitfalls and bugs |
| 13:34.08 | jelly | !tutorials |
| 13:34.08 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
| 13:34.10 | JyZyXEL- | https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 13:34.16 | JyZyXEL- | this sure doesn't have that in the "full installation" |
| 13:34.41 | jelly | I'd probably rely more on the install guide rather than the wiki that anyone can edit |
| 13:35.01 | JyZyXEL- | there is a proper guide for doing a deboostrap installation? |
| 13:36.07 | JyZyXEL- | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 13:36.11 | JyZyXEL- | that seems like it |
| 13:36.32 | JyZyXEL- | perhaps just make that into /amd64/ |
| 13:36.37 | jhutchins | !ig |
| 13:36.38 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 7 "Wheezy" can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual . See also <errata>, <release notes>. |
| 13:36.54 | JyZyXEL- | didn't realize it was part of the actual installation guide |
| 13:36.55 | jelly | JyZyXEL-: right |
| 13:37.07 | jelly | note that it actually has a "MAKEDEV generic" step |
| 13:37.13 | JyZyXEL- | indeed |
| 13:37.16 | jelly | did not know that |
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| 13:39.51 | themill | (we're still not 100% in dynamic device land even after 10 years of udev) |
| 13:40.50 | jelly | (systemd will fix everything! Nevermind that it's just two people in RH that understand it) |
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| 13:41.19 | abrotman | did you ask your actual question? |
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| 13:56.31 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 13:56.31 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows < quadrata> I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
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| 13:59.03 | Monotoko | why is this SSH server asking me for a password when I've clearly told it not to? I've put my config here: http://paste.debian.net/43644/ |
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| 13:59.33 | SirLagz | Monotoko: have you restarted the ssh server after you updated the configuration ? |
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| 14:00.56 | Monotoko | SirLagz: Yeah, passwordauth has been set to no for months though |
| 14:01.15 | Monotoko | I haven't really had time to go figure out why it's still requesting a password until now... |
| 14:02.32 | SirLagz | Monotoko: ok no idea then, lol. sorry |
| 14:02.32 | Sevet | is the password for the server or for your private key? |
| 14:02.45 | Monotoko | Sevet: password for the server... |
| 14:02.51 | Monotoko | I can login without a private key |
| 14:03.07 | msn | i am experiencing a very intresting and odd problem , I have ssh setup to use kerberos, and ldap, and sudo setup to use ldap for suoders list, now when i login from Machine A to B everything work, ssh is passwordless and so is sudo working, and it works backwards to from B to A, but when i login over vpn and connect to Machine A to B i cant sudo on B while if i ssh to B and connect to A sudo work |
| 14:03.13 | Sevet | try restarting sshd just to be sure |
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| 14:04.11 | Monotoko | Sevet: done, still having the problem (we did have a powercut this morning as well...) |
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| 14:04.18 | msn | works, sudo uses my kerberos key to connect to the ldap server and get the sudoers list, the error on machine B is ofcourse "ldap_sasl_interactive _Bind_s()' so somewhere along the lines its failing with keys |
| 14:04.18 | Monotoko | which was a forced reboot |
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| 14:20.27 | rogermilla | hello to all |
| 14:20.44 | SirLagz | hi |
| 14:20.49 | rogermilla | how do i make debian auto login when in session of ssh i tell the server to reboot |
| 14:20.59 | rogermilla | like i want to ssh after reboot thank you |
| 14:21.28 | SirLagz | do you mean you want to automatically ssh to the debian box after rebooting it ? |
| 14:21.36 | rogermilla | yes SirLagz |
| 14:21.45 | rogermilla | rebootung the remote hostr |
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| 14:22.27 | rogermilla | not automatically but at least the server be able to communicate ssh the remote server after i issue the reboot command |
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| 14:22.49 | SirLagz | rogermilla: sorry, i don't understand what you mean... |
| 14:23.01 | SirLagz | You can script it so it keeps sshing to the remote server... |
| 14:23.25 | rogermilla | like if i ssh to remote server i do some kernel upgrade and tell the remote "reboot -n" after the rebbot i want that server to start accepting ssh connections |
| 14:23.37 | SirLagz | rogermilla: that should happen by default |
| 14:23.43 | rogermilla | really? |
| 14:23.47 | SirLagz | rogermilla: unless you have some firewall rule blocking ssh |
| 14:23.52 | rogermilla | oh ok thanks i will test thank you so much |
| 14:24.04 | rogermilla | no i can ssh to it ok |
| 14:24.19 | rogermilla | my issue i want that server available right after reboot |
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| 14:24.22 | SirLagz | then rebooting shouldn't affect ssh connections, apart from the fact that it will be dropped because the box is rebooting |
| 14:24.30 | rogermilla | of course |
| 14:24.47 | rogermilla | after it is up again it wil, start taking connecvtions right |
| 14:24.51 | SirLagz | yes |
| 14:25.44 | rogermilla | thank you SirLagz |
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| 14:28.56 | SirLagz | rogermilla: no problems |
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| 14:34.11 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
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| 14:36.37 | dury | got install firefox 23.0.1 by repository but doesn't update to 24 release... how can I update it? |
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| 14:38.33 | ChrisH | dury: There is no firefox in debian. |
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| 14:41.07 | dury | but can install ChrisH |
| 14:41.34 | ChrisH | ,v iceweasel |
| 14:41.35 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 10.0.12esr-1; jessie: 17.0.8esr-2; wheezy-security: 17.0.9esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 24.0-2 |
| 14:41.52 | ksk | dury: what repository? |
| 14:42.01 | ChrisH | dury: Why do you need iceweasel 24? Just sns? |
| 14:42.02 | babilen | dury: Debian supports and ships Icweasel (which *is* firefox with a different branding) -- You can install newer versions that track the different mozilla release channels (release, beta, aurora) from http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 14:42.36 | babilen | dury: IW 24 will be packaged and made available on http://mozilla.debian.net soon, but I doubt that you really need it right now. |
| 14:42.38 | themill | (I assume iceweasel 24 will hit jessie and wheezy soon enough) |
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| 14:43.29 | dury | just upgrade the one I have... that's all |
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| 14:44.06 | ompaul | dury: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 14:44.45 | dury | wheezy ompaul, whyÇ? |
| 14:45.04 | ompaul | debian way is iceweasel |
| 14:45.08 | themill | dury: and exactly which browser did you install and how? |
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| 14:45.49 | ompaul | d-u |
| 14:46.09 | dury | themill: I got firefox |
| 14:46.38 | themill | that's half the answer |
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| 14:46.53 | thebishop | i've got a debian server running 6.0, kernel 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64. On our office network, it drops requests from linux clients. windows clients can connect fine. i ran tcpdump and could see that these dropped requests are being received by the kernel but it never sends back a response. any ideas? |
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| 14:47.41 | ksk | blackholing? iptables and stuff |
| 14:48.15 | dury | themill: did install firefox by repositories |
| 14:48.43 | themill | dury: "by repositories" means nothing |
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| 14:49.11 | thebishop | ksk, i don't see any iptables rules at all |
| 14:49.25 | thebishop | iptables -L shows nothing. |
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| 14:50.05 | thebishop | ksk, also, the server response to linux clients from seemingly any network outside our office connection. |
| 14:50.24 | thebishop | ksk, for example, i can reach the server over 3g on my android phone, but not when connected to the wifi network |
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| 14:51.30 | mumpitzel | thebishop: what protocol? |
| 14:51.48 | thebishop | mumpitzel, seems like all tcp. i've tried 80, 22, and 21 |
| 14:51.51 | ChrisH | thebishop: can you ping from Linux? a missing route will show the same behavior |
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| 14:52.05 | dury | themill: the thing is that firefox is installed, how? well I told u by repository |
| 14:52.16 | thebishop | ChrisH, i can ping |
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| 14:52.44 | mumpitzel | thebishop: both ways? |
| 14:52.46 | themill | dury: and now you want to upgrade it... perhaps that's relevant? |
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| 14:53.10 | themill | dury: we can only help you if you actually answer questions... although I think the answer in your case is going to be "ask mozilla" |
| 14:53.23 | ChrisH | thebishop: OK. If you can ping from a system the other connect fails. Then the IP routing is fine. |
| 14:54.26 | thebishop | ChrisH, yeah, that's the weird thing. we did a tcp dump and loaded it up in wireshark from a connection out of our office and out of another network. the requests look identical, but the server just 'chooses' not to respond |
| 14:55.32 | thebishop | ChrisH, also, this is murkier, but it seems to happen intermittently. sometimes the connections will succeed. |
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| 14:57.50 | outch3 | thebishop : you checked arp tables and routes on the server I presume? |
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| 14:58.48 | thebishop | outch3, no. what should i be looking for there? |
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| 15:01.34 | thebishop | the routing table looks really basic. |
| 15:01.53 | dury | deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all main |
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| 15:03.06 | outch3 | thebishop check if a ping FROM the server TO the network that sometimes cannot reach fix the issue, it might be the arp table of a router n'between |
| 15:03.29 | themill | dury: urgh. Does that look like a URL that is designed for Debian? Don't mix in repos full of crap into your Debian box. It's going to end in a mess. |
| 15:03.49 | anddam | hello, I'm seeing two instances 27278 www-data 20 0 587m 424m 6268 S 0.3 21.4 59:48.62 php with very high resident memory usage, is it normal for php instance to take that much memory? |
| 15:04.01 | anddam | it's on a wheezy with lighttpd as webserver |
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| 15:05.12 | anddam | using fcgi |
| 15:05.39 | thebishop | outch3, i get packet filtered responses pinging to the problematic network. regular responses to my currently-connected network |
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| 15:05.48 | dury | all right |
| 15:05.50 | ChrisH | thebishop: You mentioned WLAN. Is that WLAN segment a seperate IP Net? |
| 15:05.57 | thebishop | ChrisH, no. |
| 15:06.05 | thebishop | outch3, only problem with this line of debugging is that windows clients can connect to the server just fine. |
| 15:06.48 | thebishop | ChrisH, and i've seen the problem connecting ethernet directly to our edge router |
| 15:06.49 | ChrisH | thebishop: You have a WLAN bridged into your LAN? Then the arp idea from outch3 sounds reasonable. |
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| 15:08.50 | outch3 | thebishop : which protocol is used to connect where windows work and nux/nix fails? |
| 15:09.07 | thebishop | outch3, i've tried 80, 21, and 22 |
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| 15:09.20 | outch3 | so http ftp and ssh |
| 15:09.23 | thebishop | yes |
| 15:09.41 | outch3 | traceroute on linux and tracert on windows take the same path? |
| 15:09.51 | thebishop | another person on our network frequently works from an ubuntu virtualbox inside a windows host os and never sees these problems |
| 15:09.57 | thebishop | outch3, yes |
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| 15:10.46 | outch3 | wow, this is madmess, I don't beleive it could be the tcp/ip stack of the os... |
| 15:10.52 | thebishop | we also confirmed the platform issue with several linux-flavors (ubuntu, fedora, android), and windows flavors (7, 8, windows phone), and OSX is ok |
| 15:10.56 | ChrisH | thebishop: last Idea: check the netmasks |
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| 15:11.30 | outch3 | thebishop : you try connection using ip or hostname/fqdn? |
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| 15:12.01 | thebishop | outch3, yeah it's crazy. this is an EC2 instance on amazon, and i'd like to blame amazon, but there's no smoking gun. doesn't seem like their firewall since i've seen the connections get through. the kernel just seems to drop them. |
| 15:12.04 | MO_Handes | I set gnome to use network time but it does not update the time? how can I force it to update the time now? |
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| 15:12.58 | dury | thanks channel for your advices really appreciate it :-) |
| 15:13.24 | thebishop | ChrisH, what should i look for in the netmasks? |
| 15:13.29 | anddam | my bad, those php instances belongs to yioop |
| 15:14.29 | outch3 | the bishop: os/version is the server? |
| 15:14.35 | thebishop | outch3, ip vs hostname makes no difference |
| 15:14.52 | thebishop | outch3, debian 6.0, kernel 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 |
| 15:14.54 | ChrisH | thebishop: netmask must be the same on all systems within the same IP net |
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| 15:16.07 | thebishop | ChrisH, talking about the client or the server? clients are all 255.255.255.0 |
| 15:16.20 | thebishop | i don't know the netmasks of other EC2 instances in the same datacenter |
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| 15:17.34 | qman__ | thebishop, you wouldn't happen to be using a comcast business internet connection, would you? |
| 15:17.48 | thebishop | qman__, yes, it is. |
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| 15:18.11 | qman__ | thebishop, if you have an SMC modem, make sure "Disable gateway smart packet detection" is checked |
| 15:18.25 | qman__ | that feature wreaks havoc in bizarre ways |
| 15:18.31 | thebishop | qman__, ah shit i lied. i'm not connected on comcast |
| 15:18.46 | thebishop | we used to have it, but that's not our isp anymore |
| 15:18.51 | qman__ | ok |
| 15:19.05 | qman__ | just an idea, I've run into it breaking all kinds of weird ways |
| 15:19.06 | thebishop | interesting advice though. maybe i can blame my isp |
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| 15:20.05 | thebishop | we have lots of EC2 instances in the cloud with 24-hour monitoring and this is the only one with the problem. so i'm pretty baffled. |
| 15:20.11 | anddam | I have a process and I'm not sure how it's been started, its PPID is init so I guess it's launched as a service, it's a worker of yioop search engine IIRC I started it a while ago (a month or so)= |
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| 15:20.32 | outch3 | thebishop : have another server there(amazon)? |
| 15:20.43 | thebishop | outch3, several. |
| 15:20.43 | anddam | I'd need some advise in tracking down how that process has been started |
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| 15:21.03 | outch3 | thebishop : another one with same kernel/OS? |
| 15:21.11 | MO_Handes | I set gnome to use network time but it does not update the time? how can I force it to update the time now? |
| 15:21.17 | thebishop | outch3, maybe, let me check |
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| 15:22.21 | thebishop | outch3, yes, 6.0, same kernel and i can ssh to it from linux |
| 15:22.24 | thebishop | how about them apples! |
| 15:22.41 | anddam | I stopped lighttpd service but the php instances are still there |
| 15:22.42 | thebishop | checking the route to see if it's the same datacenter |
| 15:23.10 | thebishop | anddam, yeah i see that frequently too. i have a script to kill them and restart the server. lighttpd has been a nightname for me TBH |
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| 15:24.54 | outch3 | thebishop : are the ips in the same cidr? |
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| 15:25.20 | giuscri | where can I find a list of project/bugs which are listed for being solved by a beginner? |
| 15:25.32 | anddam | thebishop: you mean with specific reference to yioop? |
| 15:25.33 | outch3 | thebishop : nevermind, you already told me traceroute was following the samepath |
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| 15:25.48 | outch3 | the bishop : want me to test port 80? |
| 15:25.50 | anddam | thebishop: or just lighty's php children gone mad? |
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| 15:26.02 | dury | is there a laptop that you can put two hard-disk inside? |
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| 15:26.33 | outch3 | thebishop : pm me if you want me to rey port 80 (debian squeeze here) |
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| 15:26.34 | thebishop | anddam, the php children, haven't tried yioop, have run into several annoying problems with lighttpd that i wish i could wave away |
| 15:26.52 | thebishop | outch3, *try? |
| 15:26.55 | outch3 | eys |
| 15:26.56 | outch3 | yes |
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| 15:27.21 | thebishop | nah it's ok. i've tried from many connections outside the problem network. i have no doubt you'll be able to access it |
| 15:27.36 | outch3 | thebishop : that narrow it down |
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| 15:28.00 | dury | themill: is there a laptop that it's possible to put two hard disk inside |
| 15:28.11 | outch3 | thebishop : then again, the packets reach... |
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| 15:28.19 | WilliamDotSI | just had a crash with that dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/40165114/ - ZFS related issue i guess? |
| 15:28.39 | WilliamDotSI | load was going to 100, then 200, no reaction anymore, i reset with sysrq |
| 15:29.15 | Sevet | dury: yes, i've seen it as an option on some dells. probably others then too. i think you lose the dvd drive though |
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| 15:30.15 | dury | Sevet: which model is? |
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| 15:31.28 | thebishop | qman__, mumpitzel, ChrisH, outch3, yeah. thanks for the help all. I think I need to admit defeat on this one and spin up a new server |
| 15:31.30 | dury | Sevet is it possible with lenovo z500? |
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| 15:35.17 | thebishop | outch3, that other similar debian server i mentioned is even in the same datacenter ... wtf... |
| 15:36.19 | Sevet | dury: not sure, i just know there are some |
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| 15:46.07 | dury | Sevet, right I see.... thanks indeed |
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| 15:51.10 | Plouj | When I'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Systemtap#How_do_I_build_a_debuginfo_kernel_if_one_isn.27t_available.3F how can I pass the -j switch to make? |
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| 15:52.42 | zykotick9 | Plouj: i assume, as you are following ubuntu directions - that this is on ubuntu? if so, direct your question to #ubuntu |
| 15:53.23 | Plouj | No I'm actually executing those commands inside a squeeze installation. |
| 15:53.45 | zykotick9 | Plouj: ok. best of luck then. |
| 15:53.51 | Plouj | I guess it was the first goodle result I got. |
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| 15:59.11 | Plouj | Is https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage something I need to do to get an unstripped /boot/vmlinuz or can I just get that with a package? |
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| 15:59.31 | Plouj | I find the Debian build instructions a bit hard to follow |
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| 16:01.31 | somiaj | looks a little outdated and convoluted. What do you need to do that is making you rebuild your kernel? |
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| 16:03.55 | Plouj | I just need an unstripped vmlinux file corresponding to the running kernel that I can give to gdb for debugging |
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| 16:04.20 | Plouj | I have linux-image-2.6.32-51-generic installed |
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| 16:04.37 | somiaj | guess I don't know what an unstripped vmlinux file means |
| 16:04.52 | Plouj | it means with symbols still left intact |
| 16:05.02 | somiaj | oh that is an old kernel, yea the method I was gonna suggestion may not work on that source. |
| 16:05.06 | Plouj | Never mind. I just realized I'm debugging a Lucid kernel and not a Squeeze one :O |
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| 16:58.42 | konbon | Good Morning everyone |
| 16:58.53 | JohnDavis | hi |
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| 16:59.59 | sharky | konbon, good evening |
| 17:00.33 | konbon | Day 2 of using Debian. It's been an amazing experience. |
| 17:00.42 | konbon | Everything just works. |
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| 17:01.56 | SpeedFire_laptop | Nobody have an idea how to fix a touchpad cliking bug ? |
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| 17:13.38 | zykotick9 | SpeedFire_laptop: keep ubuntu issues in #ubuntu please |
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| 17:20.47 | SpeedFire_laptop | Hi, anyone have an idea why I don't have right click on my laptop ? |
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| 17:23.35 | musca | SpeedFire_laptop: which version of ubuntu are you using? |
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| 17:25.07 | SpeedFire_laptop | I was triying with debian first and that didn't work so now under ubuntu also its a 12.04.3 LTS |
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| 17:25.44 | musca | SpeedFire_laptop: it's totally okay to ask in #ubuntu |
| 17:26.08 | zykotick9 | musca: SpeedFire_laptop already has, a couple of times... |
| 17:26.39 | musca | I 've seen he got timeouts |
| 17:26.41 | SpeedFire_laptop | nobody have any idea thats why I am asking here because I also have the bug under debian wheezy |
| 17:26.48 | SpeedFire_laptop | and under debian Jessie |
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| 17:27.02 | konbon | What laptop do you have? |
| 17:27.06 | konbon | Name and Model number please. |
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| 17:27.08 | SpeedFire_laptop | Lenovo W520 |
| 17:27.14 | konbon | Checking |
| 17:27.20 | konbon | by the way, I'll be using google... |
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| 17:28.31 | SpeedFire_laptop | Yeah try it, I am doing that for 3 days.... 3 days to install bumblebee under Jessie to find there is a bug and also 3 days to find answer about my clicking problems :snif I don't want to change laptop ^^ |
| 17:28.50 | musca | SpeedFire_laptop: it has lenovos "ultranav"? |
| 17:29.02 | konbon | Oh, that could be it ^ |
| 17:29.27 | SpeedFire_laptop | yeah Ultranav but that's under windows |
| 17:29.48 | SpeedFire_laptop | musca: there is no driver for linux |
| 17:30.13 | musca | SpeedFire_laptop: so the buttons don't work? or do you speak of "some slow touch" feature? |
| 17:30.43 | konbon | SpeedFire_laptop, did yo go through this? http://forum.notebookreview.com/linux-compatibility-software/147917-ultranav-ubuntu.html |
| 17:31.03 | SpeedFire_laptop | musca: no I mean, sometimes the left button work and sometime not, espicially when I am openning a new window. And the right click never works :s |
| 17:31.23 | pnbeast | SpeedFire_laptop: I have no idea, really, but it might be informative to know what "xev" thinks about your right-clicks. Does it report them? |
| 17:31.25 | konbon | SpeedFire_laptop, I found your solution through google :P http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint |
| 17:32.09 | SpeedFire_laptop | pnbeast: xev ? you mean dev ? |
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| 17:32.22 | SpeedFire_laptop | konbon nop I am reading that now |
| 17:32.43 | konbon | Good. I believe your answer is just a google search away. |
| 17:32.50 | konbon | Something about configuring Xorg |
| 17:33.08 | musca | well, the buttons really should work out of the box. i suspect a loose cabeling. |
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| 17:33.25 | pnbeast | SpeedFire_laptop: No, I made no typos. |
| 17:34.02 | SpeedFire_laptop | so what is a "xev" ? |
| 17:34.53 | snollux | Hi! Is there a way to make an architecture-independent package that has binary files? I'm not sure how this would work, save for a quick compilation on the target machine |
| 17:35.08 | snollux | my package has a few binary files, and a few python scripts |
| 17:35.09 | friduxxx | xev is a tool which help to know the keyboard's keys names.... |
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| 17:35.55 | SpeedFire_laptop | konbon Yeah but I don't have any xorg.conf file |
| 17:36.16 | konbon | I'm sure you do. |
| 17:36.17 | zykotick9 | bwana147: ctrl-alt-backspace isn't enabled by default. can you login to ctrl+alt+f1? if so try "sudo service lightdm restart" or gdm/kdm if you use those instead. |
| 17:36.33 | konbon | What's your desktop using if it's not xorg? |
| 17:36.44 | SpeedFire_laptop | I am using I3 |
| 17:36.53 | konbon | why would you do that? |
| 17:36.54 | konbon | :P |
| 17:37.16 | SpeedFire_laptop | Because it's fast to open close windows etc etc |
| 17:37.29 | konbon | To each, his own. |
| 17:37.33 | SpeedFire_laptop | Give me a better solution if you know it ^-^ |
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| 17:39.15 | SpeedFire_laptop | musca: it's not a loose cabeling becaus the click works sometimes and that was working all the time under windows with ultranav driver |
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| 17:40.25 | psilo3_ | What's the best way to grant a user to ability to restart apache, but no other sudo rights? |
| 17:41.14 | psilo3_ | Give them sudo on the initscript? |
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| 17:42.26 | snollux | So is there a way to make an architecture independent package, which has binaries? |
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| 17:43.52 | dondelelcaro | snollux: how can you make an architecture independent binary? |
| 17:44.02 | dondelelcaro | snollux: but that said, yes, it's pretty easy to do, actually. |
| 17:44.31 | snollux | I don't know, a package which compiles the binary on the target machine and then installs it? |
| 17:44.34 | snollux | how do I do it, dondelelcaro |
| 17:44.43 | SpeedFire_laptop | konbon: And I cannot create a xorg.conf ? |
| 17:44.47 | dondelelcaro | snollux: lets back up. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 17:44.53 | peterrooney | psilo3_: give them sudo on apachectl with apropriate params |
| 17:45.16 | mumpitzel | dondelelcaro: java byte code :P |
| 17:45.17 | snollux | Install a single binary (made from a .c file) plus several python scripts and config file. |
| 17:45.33 | snollux | I need the C file for raising and dropping privileges on one of the scripts |
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| 17:45.45 | dondelelcaro | snollux: so that's architecture dependent. |
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| 17:46.18 | dondelelcaro | snollux: if the scripts are small, it's not a big deal. If the scripts are large, you can have an architecture dependent package and an architecture independent package |
| 17:46.33 | dondelelcaro | mumpitzel: right, the other examples are emulations, which is basically what byte code is anyway. |
| 17:46.42 | konbon | That is unfortunate. I'm no Debian expert but I can Google my ass off. |
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| 17:48.36 | pfak | How can I get "mount" to ignore "defaults" - eg. it's adding realatime to my mount options even when I explicity do mount -o rw /dev/blah /mntpoint |
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| 17:49.08 | dondelelcaro | pfak: mount -o norealatime,rw ... |
| 17:49.22 | pfak | i tried htat |
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| 17:50.09 | pfak | root@bcache:~# mount -o rw,norelatime /dev/bcache0 /bcache0 .../dev/bcache0 on /bcache0 type xfs (rw,relatime,attr2,inode64,noquota) |
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| 17:51.54 | dondelelcaro | pfak: actually, if you specify device and dir, fstab is ignored. And the last option should win anyway |
| 17:52.00 | dondelelcaro | pfak: is this filesystem already mounted? |
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| 17:53.04 | dondelelcaro | but it's possible that the XFS mount helper overrides relatime for some crazy reason |
| 17:53.39 | pfak | dondelelcaro: I unmounted it and then remounted it .. |
| 17:53.45 | pfak | and made sure to comment it out in /etc/fstab |
| 17:54.03 | dondelelcaro | pfak: right, so it's not the defaults from /etc/fstab |
| 17:54.16 | dondelelcaro | pfak: it's the defaults for the XFS filesystem, and apparently those ones can't be overriden trivially |
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| 17:54.27 | pfak | I see, i don't have that behaviour on Ubuntu |
| 17:55.19 | dondelelcaro | pfak: probably a different kernel version, then |
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| 17:55.25 | pfak | same kernel |
| 17:55.30 | dondelelcaro | pfak: anyway, try mount -o strictatime.... and see |
| 17:55.46 | dondelelcaro | alternatively, there could be a bug somewhere |
| 17:55.50 | pfak | ah ha |
| 17:55.51 | pfak | that did it |
| 17:56.09 | dondelelcaro | yeah |
| 17:56.20 | dondelelcaro | I think this is an XFS specfic feature, then |
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| 17:56.48 | dondelelcaro | but the kernel is going to relatime by default anyway, since that's almost always what you actually want |
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| 17:58.39 | pfak | dondelelcaro: I'm trying to reproduce a bcache bug with journaling, so I can work with a kernel committer to test out some aptches and not have to constantly restart my host systme |
| 17:58.48 | pfak | so im trying to replicate the environment I have elsewhere, which doesnt have realatime |
| 17:59.21 | pfak | i understand what having atime enabled entails |
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| 18:03.18 | dondelelcaro | pfak: got it |
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| 18:06.49 | zykotick9 | quinso: file-roller is one... i don't use them, so no other suggestions from me. good luck. |
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| 18:06.55 | Nik05 | quinso ar? :P |
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| 18:12.17 | konbon | Where does wget save by default? |
| 18:12.23 | daemonkeeper | . |
| 18:12.27 | konbon | ty |
| 18:12.45 | konbon | what would be the command to save in /downloads/ ? |
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| 18:13.56 | DoctorBTC | Any idea on how to remap the commands for the arrow keys/pgup/pgdown on a broken laptop? |
| 18:13.58 | manzin | when I log in, I want debian to execute this command: "xfce4-power-manager --no-daemon" - how can I do this? |
| 18:14.10 | DoctorBTC | oh, and hello! |
| 18:14.26 | daemonkeeper | cd /downloads && wget. |
| 18:14.26 | babilen | manzin: Log into what? |
| 18:14.36 | daemonkeeper | Or, --directory-prefix |
| 18:14.47 | konbon | oh so as long as I'm in the folder, it will download to that folder eh |
| 18:14.48 | konbon | nice |
| 18:14.58 | manzin | babilen, "manzin" user. |
| 18:15.03 | konbon | daemonkeeper, Thanks for your help :) |
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| 18:15.26 | babilen | manzin: You use a desktop environment or window manager, don't you? How do you start that? Which one is it? |
| 18:15.35 | manzin | babilen: do you know how? |
| 18:15.52 | babilen | manzin: I am aware of many methods, but the right way depends on the answer to your question above. |
| 18:15.56 | babilen | s/your/my/ |
| 18:16.03 | manzin | xfce4-power-manager won't start when I log in. :( |
| 18:16.19 | babilen | manzin: Yes, I understand that. WHAT are you logging into? |
| 18:16.20 | manzin | even though I checked "Power Manager" in the settings. |
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| 18:16.27 | manzin | babilen: my linux user. |
| 18:16.48 | babilen | manzin: Are you using XFCE? (/me tries a different approach) |
| 18:16.52 | manzin | yes. |
| 18:16.55 | babilen | \o/ |
| 18:17.03 | manzin | babilen, how can I fix this? |
| 18:17.21 | babilen | manzin: Is xfce4-power-manager installed? (dpkg -l xfce4-power-manager) |
| 18:17.23 | manzin | xfce4-power-manager isn't starting when I log in, and running the command "xfce4-power-manager" won't start it either. |
| 18:17.28 | manzin | it is installed, yes. |
| 18:18.05 | babilen | How do you check if it has been started? Would you mind showing me the output of "dpkg -l xfce4-power-manager", "xfce4-power-manager" and "ps aux|grep power" on http://paste.debian.net please? |
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| 18:19.52 | manzin | babilen: http://pastebin.com/0xYHLa8Z |
| 18:20.04 | manzin | even tho there are 2 processes, xfce4-power-manager isn't showing up. |
| 18:20.06 | babilen | manzin: http://paste.debian.net please the next time |
| 18:20.33 | manzin | ok. |
| 18:20.44 | babilen | manzin: You are using Ubuntu, aren't you? |
| 18:21.00 | manzin | yes |
| 18:21.06 | babilen | dpkg: ubuntuirc manzin |
| 18:21.06 | dpkg | manzin: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
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| 18:21.13 | manzin | i am banned from #ubuntu and #linux |
| 18:21.21 | manzin | can you help me please? |
| 18:21.27 | babilen | manzin: Well, I am sorry, but we don't support Ubuntu in here. Please respect that. |
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| 18:21.40 | manzin | oh god, i should have edited ubuntu into debian |
| 18:21.41 | babilen | (feel free to install and use Debian if you want support in here) |
| 18:21.44 | manzin | i forgot that.... |
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| 18:22.02 | manzin | where can I get help since #debian is the most pathetic channel i've ever seen |
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| 18:22.19 | babilen | *sigh* |
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| 18:23.40 | DoctorBTC | babilen: any chance you have some wisdom for my key remapping problem? |
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| 18:30.11 | babilen | DoctorBTC: Am having dinner soon, but look into xmodmap ; I'd also ask in #xorg for good practices. All the best! |
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| 18:30.32 | DoctorBTC | will this work in terminal as well? thx! |
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| 18:32.40 | giuscri | How does Debian realise that lid is closed? I've found that in `/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state` I can check if they are, but is this the only one way? And how can one write a script that will suspend the system if lid is closed? |
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| 18:36.30 | DoctorBTC | How can i find out what keycode the arrow/cursor keys are on my laptop keyboard. Since they are broken, i can't determine it with showkey! |
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| 18:40.47 | DoctorBTC | btw, i'm running 6.0PPC Gnome? |
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| 18:41.48 | SpeedFire_laptop | Some one have an idea how I can specifie the button of the touchpad and the trackpoint are hadware buttons ? |
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| 19:00.31 | bloblob | hi |
| 19:00.47 | bloblob | I just downloaded and ran smartmontools on my scsi disk |
| 19:00.59 | bloblob | ehm... not scsi,, sata I mean |
| 19:01.30 | bloblob | I'm hoping someone here has experience reading from all the numbers I'm getting. |
| 19:01.59 | bloblob | you see I have been experiencing file loss on an ext4 filesystem Samsung 1TB drive |
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| 19:02.50 | bloblob | without fsck giving any warning of file loss, fsck recores the file system, except for every recently written folder like .firefox or .blender or some files I just added to a dir dissapear |
| 19:03.01 | bloblob | *restores |
| 19:03.29 | bloblob | fsck does not warn of data loss, it seems to think that there is no data loss :S |
| 19:04.00 | bloblob | so I'm guessing hardware fault, like sudden sector reallocation , and sector blacklisting by the hard disk controller |
| 19:05.04 | mumpitzel | bloblob: check (and save) current SMART values, then run a long test on the hdd. after that, check the SMART values again and compare for changes |
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| 19:16.07 | bloblob | mumpitzel, you mean like smartctl -x /dev/sda ? |
| 19:16.09 | toastydeath | hey everyone: is there a process or a program I can use to create a cache for a filesystem using other disks? I'd like to have a SAN that has a large ramdisk and an SSD cache on it |
| 19:16.14 | bloblob | store this output? |
| 19:16.31 | bloblob | mumpitzel, Im just not sure what values I should be looking at, they are like zillion |
| 19:17.09 | mumpitzel | bloblob: no I mean -a and -t long respectively. and mainly you need to check reallocated sector count |
| 19:17.12 | bloblob | mumpitzel, perhaps there are other tools too? that speak some sort of human language |
| 19:17.33 | mumpitzel | toastydeath: linux bcache |
| 19:17.44 | mumpitzel | toastydeath: but doing SSD cache and RAM cache is a stupid idea |
| 19:17.45 | bloblob | mumpitzel, currently they are only 10 as far as I can tell |
| 19:18.21 | toastydeath | mumpitzel: I don't know anything about yet, so i assume there are some pretty bad ideas that i don't know about yet |
| 19:18.33 | toastydeath | it's just for a test environment |
| 19:19.22 | bloblob | mumpitzel, I get the following from -x : 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct PO--CK 252 252 010 - 0 |
| 19:19.31 | bloblob | is this good or bad? |
| 19:19.43 | bloblob | ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE |
| 19:19.53 | bloblob | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.09 | bloblob | mumpitzel, the disk is about 1.5 years old. |
| 19:21.14 | bloblob | in use |
| 19:21.22 | bloblob | ehm, I got it 1.5 years ago. |
| 19:21.28 | bloblob | and use it moderately |
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| 19:40.02 | DANtheBEASTman | how do I remap Esc and caps? do I write an ~/.xmodmap file? |
| 19:40.47 | well_laid_lawn | that's one way |
| 19:41.06 | DANtheBEASTman | what's the preferred way? can I make it work in a tty as well? |
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| 19:52.18 | somiaj | You need to rewrite the keymap to change the actualy code sent. all xmodmap does I belive is change how they behave as a modifer and dosen't actually remap them. |
| 19:53.08 | zykotick9 | DANtheBEASTman: i've been sitting here, thinking what a horrible idea it would be to remap "base" keyboard layouts like that. THEN, i actually look at what 2 keys you where swapping - brilliant. ESC in place of that useless CL which is SO close to home row. i'm still not going to do it - but i'm gonna keep it in mind ;) |
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| 19:54.27 | somiaj | zykotick9: that is a strange switch though. I have seem many replace caps lock with ctrl though. I'm trying to rember the keyboards that do that by default |
| 19:55.05 | somiaj | I don't think people hit escape enough to want it easy to type, but you put a ctrol where the caps-lock is, can be very useful |
| 19:55.18 | zykotick9 | somiaj: how often to you press ESC vs CAPSLOACK? it's really onesided for me, and ESC is a long way away from home row. |
| 19:55.59 | somiaj | I've seen many people remap their caps lock key, first time I've seen someone want to put escape there though. |
| 19:56.21 | zykotick9 | somiaj: first time i've seen it too. but it's really clever. |
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| 19:56.37 | somiaj | well I still think ctrol is the better suggestion. (: |
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| 19:57.25 | zykotick9 | somiaj: why do you do your smilies upside down ;) i'm just joking! |
| 19:58.14 | Zetetic | somiaj: are you French? |
| 19:58.27 | pnbeast | somiaj: Old Sun keyboards, as one example, had the control key where PC-style keyboards have the caps-lock key. |
| 19:58.29 | Zetetic | In the olden days French people would often do (: way up smileys |
| 20:00.01 | somiaj | pnbeast: ahh yea, that was the keyboard I was thinking about |
| 20:00.06 | somiaj | Zetetic: nope |
| 20:00.18 | Zetetic | My forensic linguistics has failed me! |
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| 20:04.31 | pnbeast | DANtheBEASTman: You can swap those keys via xmodmap, but it will only work in your X environment. The man page for xmodmap has a sample for swapping ctrl and capslock which you can probably copy and modify, in case you're interested in that. |
| 20:05.24 | d0uglas | hi #debian.. I want to implement perfect forward secrecy, but I'm running squeeze and thus apache2.2, but for PFS I understand I need apache2.4.. Would you advise that I just grab the 2.4 deb and try lighting it up, or uninstall apache and compile 2.4 manually or, for the sake of package management cohesion, doing a full dist upgrade from squeeze to jessie and then upgrading apache? ... it's a hobby server, nothing critical, just want to learn basically, t |
| 20:05.33 | peterrooney | pnbeast: proof that any time you think you're the first one to face a given computer problem, you're probably wrong. |
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| 20:07.20 | pnbeast | Yeah, "no new thing under the sun" and all that... It certainly applies to computing, also. |
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| 20:10.02 | mn3monic | Hello, Anyone here has messed with DisplayLink USB GPU ? |
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| 20:11.20 | jclama | hello all |
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| 20:11.38 | jclama | im searching help about debian on nas hardware |
| 20:12.06 | jclama | can u tell me if this is the correct channel? |
| 20:12.49 | peterrooney | jclama: if you're running debian stable, yes. |
| 20:13.30 | peterrooney | (currently wheezy, but oldstable (squeeze) is on-topic too) |
| 20:14.09 | d0uglas | mixing in a package from another distro than what i'm running, even if the particular software is regarded as stable, is a dumb idea, ... guess I'll just do a dist upgrade |
| 20:14.17 | jclama | peter: squeeze debian chroot environment, really |
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| 20:14.51 | jclama | peter: the problem is HDs should spin down, but the one that contains debian doesnt |
| 20:14.56 | somiaj | d0uglas: our make a backport. It is the depends of the software that matter and the other packages it would bring in |
| 20:15.06 | somiaj | d0uglas: you can compile the software on your system and it usually runs fine. |
| 20:15.58 | jclama | peter: so always a HD working. Should try to move the system tu USB?? Im supposing writing to disk never lets HD to hybernate |
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| 20:16.22 | d0uglas | somiaj: ahh, backports.. googling, thank you |
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| 20:37.57 | jcbjoe | hi all .. is there a way to see all the debian mailing list |
| 20:38.36 | jcbjoe | im trying to add them to my address book in mutt |
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| 20:43.32 | socomm | jcbjoe: http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 20:44.14 | d0uglas | do upgrades from squeeze to jessie tend to go more or less as smoothly as any other path? |
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| 20:46.39 | peterrooney | d0uglas: I would bet zero money on that going smoothly without stopping in wheezy for a moment. |
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| 20:53.37 | zykotick9 | d0uglas: you cant skip releases. squeeze->wheezy first, then wheezy->jessie if you must... |
| 20:53.49 | retry | is there a way to see what debs you have installed from squeeze that are no longer available on wheezy but were not removed? |
| 20:54.03 | retry | for example I found that maatkit has been removed in exchange fro percona-toolkit |
| 20:54.17 | ompaul | retry: did you dist-upgrade or just upgrade? |
| 20:54.19 | retry | I want to know what else is gone from wheezy repos that may still be on my systems |
| 20:54.31 | retry | ompaul, I did both as instructions outlined |
| 20:54.39 | retry | upgrade first, then distup |
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| 20:54.47 | ompaul | and restarted |
| 20:54.51 | retry | oh yeah |
| 20:55.09 | retry | it's not a left over removable pkg... |
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| 20:55.21 | retry | idk maybe the maatkit to percona-toolkit thing is an oddity |
| 20:55.29 | riceAndBeans_ | during install i was missing wifi firmware "rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin", so I just proceeded to install debian and then manuall loaded the firmware.deb with "dpkg -i firmware.deb" from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-realtek and it's still not working??? |
| 20:55.30 | retry | maatkit still works too |
| 20:55.52 | ompaul | ,v maatkit |
| 20:55.53 | judd | Package: maatkit on i386 -- squeeze: 6652-1 |
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| 20:56.04 | ompaul | ,v percona-toolkit |
| 20:56.05 | judd | Package: percona-toolkit on i386 -- wheezy: 2.1.2-1; jessie: 2.2.4-1; sid: 2.2.4-1 |
| 20:56.26 | retry | if you install percona-toolkit wth maatkit on your system, it will remove maatkit |
| 20:56.34 | retry | then you can't go back withuot switching your sources back to squeeze |
| 20:56.37 | retry | that worked btw |
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| 20:56.59 | retry | so is there some dpkg-* cmd that lets me see others like maatkit? |
| 20:57.06 | retry | things that are installed but not part of wheezy repos? |
| 20:57.36 | retry | i tried to google for answers but nothing came up...not sure how to phrase it you know |
| 20:57.39 | initself | if i edit /etc/resolv.conf, how do those changes make it into /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:57.44 | ompaul | the packages will live in var cache apt archives ... but as you say when one thing replaces another what did you really expect |
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| 20:58.00 | zykotick9 | retry: just to be clear. did you swap wheezy for squeeze repos, then install something (was i more then 1 packages? i'd guess it was)? if so, you have frankendebian.. |
| 20:58.00 | ompaul | i.e. of course it removed maatkit |
| 20:58.14 | retry | yeah |
| 20:58.19 | retry | i'm not upset that it removed maatkit |
| 20:58.24 | retry | I just want to know what else is on my system like that |
| 20:58.33 | ompaul | retry: if you then reinstalled maatkit you are no longer running a system we understand |
| 20:58.40 | ompaul | !frankendebian |
| 20:58.40 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 20:58.47 | retry | no you're overreacting |
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| 20:58.57 | retry | I did that to revert to the state I was in just after dist upgarde |
| 20:59.01 | retry | let me be perfectly clear |
| 20:59.11 | retry | the upgrade process which was followed 100% left maatkit on my system |
| 20:59.28 | retry | which i think was by design to not break backwards compat |
| 20:59.41 | retry | because percona toolkit is not backwards compat |
| 20:59.55 | retry | so |
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| 21:00.22 | retry | again my question is simply this: IS THERE A dpg- or apt- cmd that lets me see debs that the upgrade process left on my system from squeeze that are not in wheezy? |
| 21:00.52 | ompaul | not that I'm aware of you could look at your apt history logs and you could look at release notes |
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| 21:01.10 | retry | if the package was untouched during disg upgrade, there won't be any |
| 21:01.39 | zykotick9 | retry: have a look at /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 21:01.59 | retry | nothing in there from when I dist-upgraded |
| 21:02.07 | jcbjoe | Question .. i want touch screen to work on my lenova yoga laptop im on right now that is running debian wheezy 7.1 .. i got a response from the debian laptop mailing list stating that touchscreen only works on kernel 3.10 .. im looking at debian-laptop-request@lists.debian.org |
| 21:02.08 | retry | only from installing percona-toolkit and then reverting back to maatkit |
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| 21:02.24 | jcbjoe | sorry https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel |
| 21:02.42 | jcbjoe | and it shows 3.9 is for sid/unstable .. does that mean wheezy will never get kernel 3.9 or 3.10 ? |
| 21:02.42 | LV-426 | hello, will setting 'mirror/http/directory' to '/debian/dists/unstable' in preseed.cfg get d-i to install unstable? couldn't find a more appropriate preseed key for this... |
| 21:02.59 | ompaul | !tell jcbjoe about backports |
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| 21:03.28 | jcbjoe | thanks ompaul i have wheezy-backports but that probably won't do any good o_O |
| 21:03.36 | riceAndBeans_ | during install i was missing wifi firmware "rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin", so I just proceeded to install debian and then manuall loaded the firmware.deb with "dpkg -i firmware.deb" from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-realtek and it's still not working??? |
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| 21:04.21 | ompaul | LV-426: the suggested way to do that is to install stable -> testing -> sid |
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| 21:04.43 | ompaul | retry: file a bug and see what people say / think |
| 21:04.45 | zykotick9 | riceAndBeans_: is the device working? do you see it in "ifconfig" or "iwconfig"? is there setting for that device in /etc/network/interfaces? do you want to use Network Manager? |
| 21:04.57 | retry | i don't see a bug |
| 21:05.04 | retry | i think it's desired behavior |
| 21:05.16 | ompaul | retry: once you upgraded it shouldn't keep it, its not supported |
| 21:05.36 | retry | s# apt-cache show percona-toolkit |
| 21:05.45 | ompaul | don't paste that here |
| 21:05.56 | retry | Replaces: maatkit <-- just this line |
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| 21:06.11 | ompaul | well maybe its a bug in percona-toolkit |
| 21:06.58 | retry | so you're saying dist upgrade SHOULD have replaced maatkit with percona-toolkit automatically? |
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| 21:07.10 | retry | had it done so, it would have broken my checksumming monitor for replication |
| 21:07.22 | hashmaster | Ok so im back again with some more networking issues. I am having issues keeping a connection, I can connect to on my network and use the internet for a bit, usually about 2-5 min, then it starts having trouble loading, or ill get disconnected and wont be able to reconnect, |
| 21:07.26 | retry | its way of handling checksumming is radically different |
| 21:07.54 | Not_Stallman | Openbox or XFCE... Decisions. |
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| 21:08.31 | riceAndBeans_ | zykotick9: mi wifi nic wasn't working, could search for wireless networks.. even after reboot? i'm not on that partition now because i don't have an ethernet. so i need to get good information before i go back on my deb partition to try and fix it |
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| 21:09.48 | retry | ompaul, found the answer I was looking for : # aptitude search ?obsolete |
| 21:10.26 | jcbjoe | ompaul: Package: kernel-image-3.10-3-amd64-di (3.10.11-1) it has this though Warning: This package is intended for the use in building debian-installer images only. Do not install it on a normal Debian system |
| 21:10.36 | jcbjoe | ompaul: can i still install it even though it says that ? |
| 21:10.39 | retry | hmm 20 packages installed that are obsolete |
| 21:10.54 | retry | jcbjoe, i wouldn't install that |
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| 21:10.59 | jcbjoe | o_O |
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| 21:11.18 | ompaul | jcbjoe: so why not wait some days and see what happens |
| 21:11.24 | jcbjoe | ompaul: i can wait |
| 21:12.11 | retry | ompaul, ty for trying to help... looks like running aptitude search ?obsolete ought to be part of the upgrade instructions |
| 21:12.16 | retry | oh he quit...bah |
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| 21:12.39 | LV-426 | ompaul, humm... i'm trying to workaround a bug~ where d-i yields an installation which fails to upgrade the kernel package (some partition identification issue when using lvm and /boot over raid) - thought I'd try to bootstrap unstable directly and try from there... |
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| 21:12.52 | jcbjoe | did ompaul quit ? |
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| 21:12.56 | jcbjoe | i have join/parts quits off |
| 21:13.36 | Brigo | jcbjoe: ompaul quist, yes. |
| 21:13.43 | hashmaster | Once I get disconnected it usually tries to reconnect, the password windoe pops up a few times then it just looses the ability for wifi, ill have to unplug my usb wifi dongle and replug it then I can uaually reconnect |
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| 21:17.12 | Not_Stallman | Just installed LightDM... It looks like GDM. |
| 21:18.07 | jcbjoe | i really want touch screen |
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| 21:18.29 | here_and_there | hello |
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| 21:18.46 | here_and_there | any debian-sparc users around ? |
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| 21:19.29 | ksdncv | hello, would you recommend zfs for replacing a raid5 or better stick with md and ext4 ? |
| 21:19.47 | here_and_there | I have an issue after migrating squeeze to wheezy on a sparc t1000 machine |
| 21:19.58 | here_and_there | boot ends with a [ 61.368842] turn off boot console earlyprom0 |
| 21:20.12 | here_and_there | anyone with ideas pls ? |
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| 21:21.35 | jupo | hey everyone! |
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| 21:22.24 | socomm | ksdncv: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 21:22.54 | Flashtek | cli app to allow direct posting to pastebin ? |
| 21:23.11 | ksdncv | looking for what would be the most reliable of the two options |
| 21:23.22 | zykotick9 | Flashtek: check out pastebinit |
| 21:23.52 | ksdncv | zfs looks designed for reliability, but the integration issues with linux kernel makes me wonder if would be a good idea or if it is still too early |
| 21:23.57 | Flashtek | thanks zykotick9 |
| 21:24.26 | zykotick9 | Flashtek: see "/msg dpkg pastebinit" for some other suggestions. |
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| 21:26.31 | Takumo | OK, noob question |
| 21:26.46 | Takumo | Just installed Wheezy with the intention of using it as a Xen dom0 |
| 21:26.48 | ksdncv | here_and_there, from googling found that it might not had hanged, but that it stopped using that console to use a different console. Never used anything on sparc so cant help much more there |
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| 21:27.14 | Takumo | But when I go to install certain packages (i.e. sudo , zsh , git , xen-linux-system) I get promted to insert a disc into /media/cdrom |
| 21:27.25 | Takumo | But I've set up an apt mirror to use |
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| 21:27.42 | socomm | here_and_there: see if you can ping it over the network |
| 21:27.52 | zykotick9 | Takumo: remove the cd entries in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:28.04 | here_and_there | ksdncv: the machine nas no dispay and the only way to see it loging is the serial console :( |
| 21:28.13 | here_and_there | socomm: can't unfortunately |
| 21:28.27 | here_and_there | maybe net interfaces were remapped |
| 21:28.48 | here_and_there | will gonna try to see this |
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| 21:31.04 | Takumo | thanks zykotick9 |
| 21:31.56 | zykotick9 | Takumo: glad to help |
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| 21:36.24 | zoidberg- | win 23 |
| 21:38.37 | here_and_there | socomm: ksdncv: can't ping any of the interfaces... |
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| 21:40.21 | socomm | here_and_there: no bueno |
| 21:40.29 | here_and_there | nay |
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| 21:41.45 | here_and_there | which version of the kernel is the default one in wheezy ? |
| 21:41.57 | here_and_there | currently* |
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| 21:42.19 | zykotick9 | ,kernels |
| 21:42.20 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.11-trunk-686-pae (3.11-1~exp1); sid: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); jessie: 3.10-2-686-pae (3.10.7-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.10.5-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.46-1+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
| 21:42.48 | here_and_there | thanks |
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| 21:46.13 | here_and_there | will bbl if you guys have an idea, please share |
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| 21:54.34 | WilliamDotSI | eh anyone got a link to the official Debian USB image for windows? |
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| 22:01.08 | jtreminio | Hi all. Anyone familiar with dnsmasq? I'm trying to forward a URL to a specific url AND port. ie, going to foo.com forwards to bar.com:8080 |
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| 22:08.07 | pnbeast | jtreminio: So far as I am aware, ports are not a part of DNS and you cannot convince arbitrary users to redirect a TCP query to a given port. |
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| 22:08.28 | riceAndBeans_ | during install i was missing wifi firmware "rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin", so I just proceeded to install debian and then manuall loaded the firmware.deb with "dpkg -i firmware.deb" from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-realtek and it's still not working??? |
| 22:08.39 | jtreminio | pnbeast: not arbitrary, it's for local web testing. I want to connect my android to local VM domain without having to specific port in the phone |
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| 22:13.01 | oobe | Hey I am having trouble installing skype:i386 on my debian amd64 installation it has multiarch enabled but when it tries to install libsqlite3-0:i386 it wants to install it to the same path as the 64bit version and wont overwrite it which is sane but the problem I see is there should be a /usr/lib32 so it can be placed there instead but there isnt |
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| 22:17.45 | gnarface | oobe: it may be a known bug; check bugs.debian.org (not everything is multiarch-safe yet) |
| 22:18.20 | gnarface | oobe: also, its entirely possible you hosed it yourself mixing distros/recklessly backporting |
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| 22:18.58 | gnarface | oobe: also, fyi we don't support skype here |
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| 22:19.20 | oobe | yea maybe its a fresh install I enabled i386 and dont have any backports in my sources.list enabled |
| 22:19.24 | gnarface | oobe: 99% of the problems people have with skype in debian are problems with the skype packaging itself |
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| 22:20.09 | Sagi | is there anyone here who can recommend a gnome global menubar-alike solution to a xmonad+gnome user like myself? |
| 22:20.24 | gnarface | oobe: this is the point where even though i know its futile, i'm compelled to inform you that there are numerous alternatives to skype that are superior in reliability/quality control (i recommend mumble/murmer) |
| 22:20.33 | Sagi | I don't want to lose the vertical pixels needed for file, edit, view etc. |
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| 22:22.26 | oobe | gnarface, yea it is kind of futile unless mumble can connect to skype protocol cause I need it to talk to contacts etc. already on skype |
| 22:22.52 | oobe | it would be hard to convince lots of ppl to start using a different program just cause I cant install skype |
| 22:23.24 | gnarface | oobe: well, its free as are the servers. there are a myriad of good reasons for them to switch that have nothing to do with the direct reason you'd be recommending it |
| 22:23.44 | gnarface | doesn't skype have its own irc room? |
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| 22:23.56 | gnarface | skype users have so much trouble you'd think there would be support somewhere... |
| 22:24.01 | riceAndBeans_ | during install i was missing wifi firmware "rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin", so I just proceeded to install debian and then manuall loaded the firmware.deb with "dpkg -i firmware.deb" from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-realtek and it's still not working??? |
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| 22:24.58 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: uh... didn't you install wheezy? |
| 22:25.34 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: the command should have been "dpkg -i firmware-realtek.deb" also |
| 22:25.41 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: i did full install without the wifi firmware |
| 22:25.56 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: oh, its wifi? you probably also need wpasupplicant too |
| 22:26.06 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: yes, i just shortened it for the message i used the right filename |
| 22:26.37 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: i have no idea what else i need, so much conflicting information, i'm just a noob on a win machine and i want to learn debian |
| 22:26.42 | riceAndBeans_ | cant get internet working though |
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| 22:29.34 | oobe | gnarface, yea it is a hassle I got it working on slackware 64 cause slackware has /lib32 etc. but debian doesnt have a usr/lib32 and wont overwrite the 64 libs present which is sane not to overwrite but a pity it didnt have /usr/lib32 |
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| 22:31.37 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: ok in that case let me restate my last assertion with the proper level of authoritativeness: YOU NEED THE "wpasupplicant" PACKAGE. WITHOUT IT YOUR WIRELESSS NETWORK CAN NOT WORK. START BY AT LEAST ADDING THAT AND SHOWING ME YOU ARE PAYING ATTENTION BY REPORTING YOUR RESULTS |
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| 22:33.15 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: i will reboot into my deb partition and add it, could you link me to the correct deb file? |
| 22:33.21 | gnarface | oobe: so, *my* debian HAS a /usr/lib32. the level trauma you are describing belies the clean, stock install you claimed this was |
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| 22:35.06 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: can't you get a wired connection working for this? the packages you need to install may have other dependencies. if you try to manually download them individually and install them with dpkg one by one (which is not dependency-aware) your chances of success (as a self-professed NOOB) are slim to none |
| 22:35.12 | proxypirate | hey guys i am running debian linux in vmware player (debian as my guest os) windows 7 as my host os; i have just recently run out of space on my debian linux guest os so i used vmware player to increase the size of the virtual os from 30 to 50GB. When i booted debian and run Gparted i can see that there is 20GB of unallocated space. How can i extend the ext4 partition to use the entire 50GB? |
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| 22:36.02 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: access point is too far in this instant. sigh |
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| 22:37.35 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: well the actual name of the package is "wpasupplicant" i didn't paraphrase. packages.debian.org is the right place to get packages if you're having to install them one-by-one with a sneakernet |
| 22:38.06 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: but first you have to at least figure out which version of debian you installed so you get the right packages for it (if you just installed "stable" today it should be wheezy, not squeeze) |
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| 22:38.24 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: what's sneakernet? booting into deb and rebooting into other partition when needing internet? |
| 22:38.35 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: more or less, yes |
| 22:38.41 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: installed 7.1 xfce |
| 22:38.44 | riceAndBeans_ | from cd iso |
| 22:38.59 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: that is wheezy but it also kinda sounds like you installed the live image |
| 22:39.06 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: and "live" debian != debian |
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| 22:39.47 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: i didn't do live image. i did the cd iso xfce edition in place of the dvd iso |
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| 22:40.44 | jeep | hello |
| 22:41.06 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: uh yea... there isn't one of those, as far as i know. |
| 22:41.50 | proxypirate | hey i can't resize the ext4 partition while i am running debian right? |
| 22:41.52 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: are you sure you didn't install mint or ubuntu or arch and let them lie to you by claiming "really, its just debian" (a common ploy they use in an attempt to offload end-user support to us) |
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| 22:42.28 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: absolutely sure, i'm trying to find the link to what i downloaded :P |
| 22:43.04 | riceAndBeans_ | cd-iso was around 700 MB xfce and64 debian 7.1.0 |
| 22:43.08 | gnarface | proxypirate: you can't resize a *mounted* partition, but if its not your / partition there are tricks you can use to accomplish it without taking the system offline... |
| 22:43.10 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: ^ |
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| 22:43.40 | Brigo | proxypirate: of course you cant :-) |
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| 22:43.55 | proxypirate | gnarface: /dev/sda1 which is ext4 is mounted on / |
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| 22:44.18 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: well at least try to install the wpasupplicant package for wheezy manualy. make sure that squeeze firmware package you installed earlier (and any other squeeze packages you installed that you didn't mention) get replaced with the wheezy ones |
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| 22:44.35 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: i believe i installed xfce from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 22:44.54 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: i actaully installed the wheezy one i linked you wrong |
| 22:44.57 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: but that may still leave you missing a lot of packages. it may actually be much easier to complete the install of the wireless network connection with a wired network connection |
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| 22:45.14 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: i have no wired :( |
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| 22:46.42 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: well here's the question you have to ask yourself: is 20$ worth more to me than 8-16 hours of tedious work? |
| 22:47.14 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: no |
| 22:48.01 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: so trust me on this then. get a debian-supported *wired* ethernet device (preferrably one that does NOT require non-free firmware/drivers) and use that |
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| 22:48.27 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: everything (including getting wifi working) is easier with a working connection. debian is a networked operating system. |
| 22:48.37 | oobe | ok wierd I fixed the problem by using an older binary from a back up of my old root partition |
| 22:48.56 | oobe | it just works it doesnt complain about libs |
| 22:49.28 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: fyi though many wireless devices that dont' work without non-free firmware and wpasupplicant installed and running will still work without all that if you run the router in "unencrypted" or "wep 128 bit encryption" mode |
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| 22:50.20 | Dan39 | if i have repos added with same packages, how can i tell which one is going to be installed when i apt-get install? and when doing apt-cache search/show how can i see the exact repo name (like to do -t repo) of each one? |
| 22:50.25 | gnarface | oobe: SUPER bad idea *especially* when at first it appears to work but you won't catch me begrudging a monkey his last chance to be shot into space... |
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| 22:51.46 | oobe | um ok well I dont feel like I did something stupid it works I fixed my dpkg errors and got rid of a lot of junk and tested things so it seems ok |
| 22:51.57 | riceAndBeans_ | gnarface: deb support wired eth device? could you link? |
| 22:52.52 | gnarface | oobe: it wasn't stupid unless you grabbed a version that didn't match the installed package, or copied in a file that wasn't associated with ANY package |
| 22:53.24 | gnarface | oobe: but the fact you had to suggests something far greater wrong with your install that you still as yet have only shown some small evidence of |
| 22:53.53 | oobe | yea I searched it its a known issue |
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| 22:53.58 | oobe | no one is yet to resolve it |
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| 22:54.17 | oobe | I seen plenty of pages where people had the same problems exactly as I did |
| 22:54.42 | proxypirate | okay guys so i am not really sure how to enter the bios for debian linux since i am running debian linux in a virtual enviornment with vmware player |
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| 22:54.58 | dimitry7 | hi guys |
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| 22:55.07 | proxypirate | i keep trying to hit F2 to enter the bios to run gparted so i can resize my parition but that is not working, does anyone have any ideas? |
| 22:55.18 | dimitry7 | how can I generate a CA signed certificate? |
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| 22:56.00 | proxypirate | crap... |
| 22:56.21 | proxypirate | man i know i am going to have to delete debian and reinstall because i can't resize this damn partition! |
| 22:57.29 | proxypirate | can i resize the partiton in recovery mode? |
| 22:57.42 | jeep | proxypirate, worse case use a live cd |
| 22:58.29 | gnarface | riceAndBeans_: sorry, just google for what you can find cheap locally and then check the linux kernel docs for native support; stuff based on the tulip driver is good, also some intel and 3com models are well supported too but you gotta be careful to pick the right ones |
| 22:59.24 | proxypirate | jeep: i tried having debian linux to boot from the livecd iso but that did not work either |
| 22:59.28 | proxypirate | this is really frustrating... |
| 22:59.40 | gnarface | proxypirate: if its a virtual server that you don't control the host system for, you would not be expected to have any bios access and you're S.O.L. if your ISP isn't standing by to do this for you. |
| 23:00.37 | proxypirate | gnarface: it is as virtual os that i control i am running debian linux on top of windows |
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| 23:01.28 | gnarface | proxypirate: you get that whatever virtual machine you're running IN windows doesn't emulate your MOTHERBOARD BIOS in the sense that you can access the bios setup screen inside the virtual machine sandbox, right? |
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| 23:02.04 | gnarface | proxypirate: you'd still have to reboot the whole system to change bios parameters. that's outside of debian's (and windows') jurisdiction |
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| 23:02.18 | jeep | proxypirate, you made the disk a fixed size when you installed debian ? now you want it bigger ? |
| 23:02.52 | proxypirate | jeep: yes i want to increase my partition size from 30GB to 50GB |
| 23:03.13 | proxypirate | i use vmware player to increase the virtual hard disk size but now i need to fix the partitions on debian |
| 23:03.33 | proxypirate | since my ext4 which is mounted on / i need to find a way to increase that size |
| 23:03.33 | gnarface | jeep: yea, he installed debian in a virtual machine in windows and now he's trying to use the virtual machine to access the motherboard bios to change his partition size for a... virtual debian disk image. none of that makes any sense whatsoever, if you were wondering. |
| 23:04.09 | jeep | gnarface, its one hell of a concept doomed for failure |
| 23:04.13 | proxypirate | gnarface: well then please inform me how to do it? How can i resize a partition that is already mounted? |
| 23:04.19 | jhutchins | gnarface: I think we can be fairly certain that none of that would work at all. |
| 23:04.25 | proxypirate | no its not....i am sure people do this all the time |
| 23:04.47 | jhutchins | proxypirate: You may know people who SAY they do this all the time. Get them to show you what they really do. |
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| 23:05.03 | jhutchins | proxypirate: 'cause whatever it is, that's no tit. |
| 23:05.09 | gnarface | proxypirate: the people do it all the time, but the point of virtual machines is generally to avoid having to |
| 23:05.19 | proxypirate | i am seeing from my google searches taht people do resize these partitions i am just not sure how to do it since i have never done it |
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| 23:05.50 | jhutchins | proxypirate: You shut down the VM and use the host's guest configuration utility to define the drives. |
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| 23:05.58 | gnarface | proxypirate: your virtual machine (whatever it is) should have these features for you, and if it doesn't... i dunno try seeing if there is a gparted windows app |
| 23:06.29 | jeep | proxypirate, just close debian .. google "increase vmware player disk size" |
| 23:06.30 | jhutchins | gnarface: I doubt he's using physical partitions; disks on virtuals are usually special files on the host. |
| 23:06.41 | gnarface | proxypirate: the problem as i see it is you may not even be working with partitions. you never specified this virtual machine had a dedicated disk; this suggests its a raw disk image, or something proprietary |
| 23:06.42 | james41382 | Gparted makes a live cd.. I don't know about using it with a VM though |
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| 23:06.48 | jhutchins | VMWare? |
| 23:06.59 | gnarface | jhutchins: yea, i know, and he ddidn't even mention which |
| 23:07.05 | jhutchins | You would definitely NOT use that for a VM. |
| 23:07.29 | jhutchins | Go into VSphere, select the machine, edit settings, choose the drive, change size. |
| 23:07.46 | proxypirate | i already changed the size |
| 23:07.49 | proxypirate | but that is the easy part |
| 23:07.53 | jhutchins | You then also need to resize the drive in the guest, but that's pretty simple. |
| 23:08.04 | gnarface | james41382, jhutchins: gparted operates as a local app too. it works as well on raw disk images as physical ones |
| 23:08.08 | proxypirate | when i run gparted i can see that there is 20GB of unallocated space |
| 23:08.11 | jhutchins | You would need a live CD or something if you were working on the OS disc. |
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| 23:08.25 | gnarface | james41382, jhutchins: but only some virtual machiens use raw disk images, and we don't even know that much about his setup |
| 23:08.29 | proxypirate | but now i need to find a way to increase the ext4 partition to use that extra 20GB |
| 23:08.42 | james41382 | gnarface: I don't much experience with VMs.. |
| 23:08.47 | proxypirate | damn...this is so frustrating |
| 23:08.50 | james41382 | have.. |
| 23:09.15 | gnarface | james41382: well, i have a lot with... linux ones. proxypirate is probably using vmware or parallels, neither of which are likely to find much traction here |
| 23:09.32 | jhutchins | proxypirate: I'm pretty sure I learned how to do it from google. The way it was described to me didn't make sense. |
| 23:09.38 | james41382 | gnarface: I installed virtualbox, but I've never used it... =] |
| 23:09.44 | proxypirate | vmware player but this is not a vmware player issue |
| 23:09.51 | proxypirate | this is a linux issue |
| 23:09.57 | proxypirate | that is why i came here for assitance |
| 23:10.08 | proxypirate | *assistance |
| 23:10.17 | gnarface | proxypirate: unfortunately while it *may* be a linux issue, nobody here knows enough about vmware player to help you |
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| 23:10.42 | jeep | uses virtualbox |
| 23:10.47 | jhutchins | proxypirate: This is the only one I can find on ext4: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-to-resize-a-ext4-root-partition-at-runtime |
| 23:11.05 | gnarface | proxypirate: my brief experience with vmware player though suggests to me you're wrong actually and the reason why this is so confusing for you is in fact because of vmware obfuscation |
| 23:11.06 | proxypirate | swapoff: /dev/sda1: swapoff failed: Invalid argument |
| 23:11.08 | jhutchins | proxypirate: However, I believe the ext2 tools are still applicable (or have been extended to work with ext4). |
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| 23:11.31 | proxypirate | jhutchins: thanks for the linnk i will check it out right now |
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| 23:12.00 | jhutchins | gnarface: If the disk is already resized in the vm so that the guest sees the extra space, all he has to do is resize the ext filesystem, which is fairly simple. |
| 23:12.06 | proxypirate | i don't see how this is a vmware issue, if you had a root partition say only 3GB and you were running out of space and you needed to increase your partition size its the same exact issue i am having |
| 23:12.07 | jhutchins | proxypirate: You are not dealing with LVM are you? |
| 23:12.28 | proxypirate | no i have GRUB installed |
| 23:12.29 | jhutchins | proxypirate: Sorry, VM was a distraction, you're right. |
| 23:12.39 | jhutchins | proxypirate: Um, that's not relevant. |
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| 23:12.54 | jhutchins | proxypirate: If you don't have LVM that makes it easier. |
| 23:12.57 | proxypirate | oh ya sorry i was thinking of something else...i can install LVM if you think that would help |
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| 23:13.04 | gnarface | backs away before he breaks something |
| 23:13.05 | jhutchins | proxypirate: Read that link, I'll look for more. |
| 23:13.23 | proxypirate | gnarface: its okay if you don't know how to assist |
| 23:13.25 | rryoumaa | is it safe to symlink a directory in /home to /root? |
| 23:13.30 | proxypirate | jhutchins: thanks bro |
| 23:13.32 | rryoumaa | or should i bind mount? |
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| 23:14.56 | jhutchins | proxypirate: ext3 but it should be the same. |
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| 23:15.13 | jhutchins | http://www.linuxnepal.com/2011/06/10/extend-the-size-of-ext3-partition-online-in-a-virtual-machine/ |
| 23:15.40 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: This sounds like it might be a bad idea in the first place. More details? |
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| 23:16.44 | Sagi | what's the process to create a backport? Is there some appropriate way for me as a package user to request a backport? |
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| 23:17.13 | Sagi | I never saw such a request as a bug, so I'm kind of assuming that's not the proper way |
| 23:17.18 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: well, i want stuff in /root to be with home, as it is not part of root itself and bears more resemblance to a home directory. of course, if home is not around, then it is useful. i also want it on an encrypted fs in case it contains data that should be private. |
| 23:18.19 | proxypirate | damn i have no idea what to do... |
| 23:18.26 | rryoumaa | by not part of root, of course i mean "the stuff you do in it is not really stuff the os does" |
| 23:19.16 | jeep | proxypirate, do you have to use vmware player for some reason ? |
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| 23:21.38 | mercutio22 | Intel® Xeon® E5-2600 is 64 bit or just 32 bit? |
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| 23:21.59 | wigums | its 27 1/2 bit |
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| 23:24.28 | gnarface | dpkg: tell Sagi about ssb |
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| 23:28.44 | Sagi | gnarface: thanks. That does not exactly answer my question, but it was enlightening anyhow :-) |
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| 23:29.07 | Sagi | I decided to just drop the maintainers an e-mail and see where that gets me :-) |
| 23:29.29 | Sagi | oh well, I guess it *does* answer my first question |
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| 23:29.32 | gnarface | Sagi: its just a way to make the backport yourself |
| 23:29.38 | Sagi | yeah, you are right |
| 23:29.56 | gnarface | Sagi: getting someone to put it in the official backports repo is an entirely other mess that is not likely to succeed. |
| 23:30.19 | Sagi | because it adds additional maintenance burden? |
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| 23:30.59 | gnarface | Sagi: more precisely, because maintenance workloads are assigned directly by demand |
| 23:31.31 | Sagi | so how's demand defined in this case? |
| 23:31.46 | gnarface | Sagi: well, i'm just saying if its not already there, its *probably* much faster to just build your own package the right way than it is to wait for someone else |
| 23:32.03 | Sagi | uhuh |
| 23:32.09 | gnarface | Sagi: in this case i think demand is defined by how many people request the package be added |
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| 23:32.28 | Sagi | and what would be the proper way to do such a request |
| 23:32.32 | Sagi | +? |
| 23:32.40 | gnarface | Sagi: but there are also packages in high demand that never make it into debian because their upstream maintainers can't be corralled into accepable behavior |
| 23:32.56 | Sagi | in this case, the package is already in testing |
| 23:33.27 | Sagi | so I guess it's not much more work than reuploading a build |
| 23:33.38 | Sagi | additionally, I don't think it links against much of anything |
| 23:33.43 | gnarface | Sagi: oh, well have you tried to backport it yourself? |
| 23:33.55 | Sagi | not yet, I should |
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| 23:34.06 | gnarface | Sagi: you did verify its not already IN backports right? |
| 23:34.09 | Sagi | yes |
| 23:34.11 | Sagi | :-) |
| 23:35.13 | Sagi | gnarface: thanks for your answers |
| 23:35.25 | Sagi | & |
| 23:35.57 | gnarface | Sagi: i recommend you build it yourself, but i think its the duty of the package maintainer to decide whether or not they put their package in backports, so if the one you wan't isn't there yet, i think you'd email the maintainer |
| 23:36.39 | gnarface | Sagi: (the debian developer in charge of the package, not the upstream project's owner/manager, unless they're the same person) |
| 23:37.28 | Sagi | yeah, I understand the difference |
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| 23:38.42 | gewt | is getting support for the S/390 port under hercules remotely possible here? :P |
| 23:39.09 | gewt | i'm fighting with the fact I can't get output anywhere other than SYSCONS which doesn't help with running it under say...VM/ESA but as the support for IUCV is there it has to be possible. |
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| 23:43.42 | dimitry7 | ho |
| 23:44.14 | dimitry7 | how can I generate a SSL certificate for a site? I have already one for my domain. |
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| 23:47.40 | pnbeast | dimitry7: Maybe something like this can give you some information, at least get you started: http://www.openssl.org/docs/HOWTO/certificates.txt |
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